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Ukrainian Defense Minister Valery Geletei said that he was skeptical about the participation of commanders of territorial battalions in parliamentary elections. At the same time, Geletei noted that such combatants who enter politics during a war are not heroes. Minister of Defense of Ukraine quotes the edition "Focus":

When I see people who were commanders yesterday in the party lists, I don’t find anything positive in this ... Now the war is more important - you need to finish it and bring peace and tranquility. That is why the real heroes in the party lists you will not find.


Such a statement by Minister Geletey caused outrage at another ukroministra - Avakov. The Minister of the Interior, accustomed to using Facebook for his statements, turning to Geletey, writes (Avakov’s style and punctuation is preserved):

Forced to respond to read, keep quiet - mean.
Yes, Comrade Minister, Colonel General, - I know for sure - all real heroes work in your headquarters, in your troops supply apparatus.
Dear colleague, you would refrain from such questionable roulades.
Since the outbreak of hostilities in the system of volunteer battalions of the Interior Ministry, more than 70 people have died. More 300 injured. Among them, the commanders of units. 38 fighters are missing. So do not dare to remember, in passing, brave guys. I will not tolerate this! It is not worthy, not fair - and this is a lie. It’s also a lie that the creation of volunteer battalions at the beginning of the ATO was a mistake ...




Avakov continues to pour out his anger:

Your statements go beyond military and human ethics.
Tens of thousands of soldiers and commanders on the front line — from the Armed Forces, the National Guard, the battalions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the border guards — deserve more respect. Sorry!
I have the honor. Minister of the Interior, senior lieutenant of the reserve


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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 20 September 2014 09: 28
    +13
    Everyone pounds political capital as best they can. Some are bloodied.
    1. Момент
      Момент 20 September 2014 09: 29
      +5
      They stand each other. Warm seats in the government are not issued without high-profile statements. Neither one will go to war. Pseudo-patriots of Ukraine
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 20 September 2014 09: 33
        +8
        Quote: Moment
        Neither one will go to war. Pseudo-patriots of Ukraine

        Here are the villains, they would take an example from the younger Potroshenko. laughing
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        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 20 September 2014 10: 52
          +8
          Since the start of hostilities, more than 70 people have died in the system of volunteer battalions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. More than 300 wounded
          Only in the Donbass, three of the squad changed, and there are also Aidara, Miners and other torn.
          Although Avakov has his own arithmetic.
          1. Nicholas C.
            Nicholas C. 20 September 2014 14: 21
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Only in the Donbass, three of the squad changed, and there are also Aidara, Miners and other torn.

            In ukrostatistiki and vodka can not figure it out, and without. There are battalions in the Ministry of Defense (like Aidar), naturally gay Avakyan does not consider his corpses, and terbats, and mercenaries, and Benin battalions, and Svidomo patriots without anywhere, he doesn’t list his own, because as criminals are fighting for the promised amnesty, they, like, are not participants in the hostilities. Again, if the Bandera-fascist punisher died and the valiant ukrovoyaki managed to burn him into a crematorium or plunge him underground, then there was no dill, and, therefore, did not exist. No corpse - no problem. There is a corpse - it is necessary to pull out pennies from relatives for disposal. And then they, sons, will also want benefits. Where did the available hundreds of thousands of troops, mentives, volunteers, etc., and who knows the three waves of mobilization go? Maybe they decided to visit the Rostov mountains as tourists, or relax on the Belarusian sea-ocean.

            And you can understand Avakov. For him, the hero is the one who gets injured in the most important part of the body - the dupa. Like a battalion commander Semencheko.
            1. g1v2
              g1v2 20 September 2014 19: 29
              0
              Volunteer baht lesson has several types.
              1- territorial defense, these bats are parts of the military and can be armed with equipment, military command, examples of such battalions of Aidar and Kievan Rus, many have only numbers, there are 11 thousand in all.
              2-Volunteer units of the police patrol service, and in fact a riot police from volunteers, only automotive equipment, the cop command, examples
              Dnepr1, Kiev1, Artyomovsk, miners, about 8 thousand in them.
              3- units of the National Guard formed from volunteers, there is equipment but mostly armored personnel carriers, the command of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, examples are the Donbass and the Bat named after Kulchitsky {which was shot down in a turntable}.
              4-basics, there is a technique but not much, it does not obey anyone, although one company has cop crusts, the rest have no submission, many mercenaries, though Avakov promised to make a regiment and give cop crusts to everyone.
              5-battalions of law enforcement officers and the OUN, are subordinate only to Yarosh and Kolomoisky, are not military personnel, they mostly hang out at the airport of Donetsk.
          2. Vasily Pupkin
            Vasily Pupkin 20 September 2014 14: 40
            0
            Zhirinovsky must say let him give the calculator
      3. sssla
        sssla 20 September 2014 09: 40
        +3
        Quote: Moment
        They stand each other

        It is necessary to wait a bit and these "heroes" will illustrate each other to the point of colic.
        1. avg
          avg 20 September 2014 11: 41
          +3
          It's a pity that Facebook is still there. It's time to go to hand-to-hand combat. We are waiting angry
          PS Lyashko with a rabbit do not forget!
      4. KAZAK67
        KAZAK67 20 September 2014 10: 08
        0
        That is, who is involved in the punitive operation of the patriots?
    2. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 20 September 2014 09: 43
      -1
      Let's dance guys. On the bones.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 20 September 2014 09: 51
        +4
        Lovely scolding, just amuse! laughing
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    4. siberalt
      siberalt 20 September 2014 09: 54
      +4
      The losses of the Ukrainian security forces in the ATO presented by Avakov are simply terrible! For starling, of course laughing
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 20 September 2014 10: 28
        +6
        Oh how! Taruta: My business is no longer there, it’s payback

        Sergei Taruta announced the arrest of his business by the Basmanny District Court of Moscow. He said this in an interview with the TV program “Pershalt Spalt”.

        “My business is no longer there, he was arrested, he was taken away, so this is a retribution. These are not terrorists, terrorists seized an office, terrorists seized a house, terrorists destroyed an office in Mariupol. And the assets that have been seized, the assets that are both here in Ukraine and outside Ukraine, by the decision of the Basmanny Court, the fairest court in the world, have been seized today, ”he said.
        Jumped, goat!bully

        Taruta noted that given that the majority shareholder of ISD is owned by Russian shareholders, this procedure was fairly easy.
        It’s you in Ukraine, the king and god! In Russia you are a trifle, spit and grind!
        As reported, Taruta is a co-owner of the Industrial Union of Donbass Corporation (Donetsk), which is controlled by Russian shareholders. ISD specializes in the production and sale of metal products, controlling Alchevsk (Lugansk region) and Dneprovsky (Dnepropetrovsk region) metallurgical plants, Dnepropetrovsk pipe plant, Alchevsk coke and chemical plant (Lugansk region), as well as metallurgical plants ISD Dunaferr, ISD Huta Czestochowa and other assets.
        Well, the process of destroying the assets of the Ukrainian oligarchy has begun! If Ukraine rests only on the oligarchs, then you need to knock out the last backup. Only one thing is annoying, the truce seems to have been initiated by Russian financial offices.
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  3. jurassic61
    jurassic61 20 September 2014 09: 31
    +3
    They hike everywhere even to themselves.
    1. I am a Russian
      I am a Russian 20 September 2014 23: 30
      0
      Quote: jura61
      They hike everywhere even to themselves.


      +
      I don’t really need a Euro-Ukrainian.
  4. General Frost
    General Frost 20 September 2014 09: 31
    +3
    Banderlog screech ---- Well, it only comes to mind hi .Usual political picture of dill, well, representatives of the Russian 5th column are absolutely the same (for example, Albats), what to do with the Western product hi
  5. victorsh
    victorsh 20 September 2014 09: 31
    +12
    Where did the Avakov HONOR come from?
    1. MIV999
      MIV999 20 September 2014 09: 41
      +2
      Quote: victorsh
      Where did the Avakov HONOR come from?

      ahah laughing ... Well, if only in a certain, very applied sense of the word "honor" negative ... probably did an operation abroad lol ...
      1. HAM
        HAM 20 September 2014 12: 00
        +2
        He took it from Lyashko !!! tongue
      2. avdkrd
        avdkrd 21 September 2014 11: 29
        0
        Quote: MIV999
        ahah ... Well, if only in a certain, very applied sense of the word "honor" ... probably did the operation abroad ...

        Why is it so hard? He just scotch tape which he glues to himself dupu honor. According to the meaning of his phrase "I have the honor" means that he has scotch ...
    2. Panikovsky
      Panikovsky 20 September 2014 10: 08
      +1
      Quote: victorsh
      Where did the Avakov HONOR come from?

      in a man dishonorable by definition.
  6. Same lech
    Same lech 20 September 2014 09: 33
    +4
    Such a showdown in the camp of our enemies is pleasing .... the combat readiness of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is so low, and when the elder sends the higher authorities in three letters, what a war to the last Ukrainian.
    1. Shishiga
      Shishiga 20 September 2014 11: 18
      +2
      when the starley sends the superior authorities in three letters, what a war to the last Ukrainian.


      It's funny not even that the starle sends, but the fact that the starle steers the whole Ministry of the Interior. This is already fun laughing
      1. svp67
        svp67 20 September 2014 15: 48
        +2
        Quote: Shishiga
        It's funny not even that the starle sends, but the fact that the starle steers the whole Ministry of the Interior. This is already fun
        And the fact that the colonel of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, during the year became colonel general of the army is not funny?
  7. Carlos
    Carlos 20 September 2014 09: 33
    +3
    Looking at these political freaks who came to power on blood, you are not surprised at anything.
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 20 September 2014 09: 34
    +1
    Why shame them dogs?
    Who barks louder is right. Adj. The lessons are both Gel and Av.
  9. Iline
    Iline 20 September 2014 09: 34
    +1
    I have the honor. Minister of the Interior, senior lieutenant of the reserve

    That Avakov, that Geletey random people for such structures as the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Defense. Without special education, without experience. And now, in front of each other, peacock feathers open. It’s ridiculous to look at them from the outside, but it’s a pity to Ukraine if such frank degenerates head such departments.
  10. Bassoon
    Bassoon 20 September 2014 09: 35
    +2
    How Ivan Ivanovich quarreled with Ivan Nikiforovich. Ukrainian version.
    1. Oprychnyk
      Oprychnyk 20 September 2014 09: 54
      +1
      Purely rhetorical, of course the question. And homosexuals have the honor ???)))
      1. Bassoon
        Bassoon 20 September 2014 10: 16
        +2
        Everything is possible in the Ukrainian version)
      2. VSZMK
        VSZMK 20 September 2014 15: 48
        +1
        Chinese homosexuals decided to go under the jurisdiction of Ukraine. They are yellow in front and blue in back.
  11. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 20 September 2014 09: 36
    +1
    To stand in power, they are ready to distort anyone, even themselves
  12. predator.3
    predator.3 20 September 2014 09: 37
    +1
    Deputies - "battalion commanders" in the Verkhovna Rada! it sounds scary, recalls the Petrograd Soviet in the 17th, on the street and on the Maidan "right sector", and in the meeting room armed "battalions" is this a new circus season in Kiev ?!
  13. MIV999
    MIV999 20 September 2014 09: 38
    +1
    Read ...
    It seems that this is a sketch of how two parasitic worms argued over which of them is the greater "patriot" of the stomach ...
  14. Igarr
    Igarr 20 September 2014 09: 38
    +1
    Two worms stand each other.
    One of the military cops (or military), the other of pedophiles .... talk about high.
    You can choke on .... looking at the "ranked power" of Ukroviny.
  15. Name
    Name 20 September 2014 09: 41
    0
    Two "cool peppers" - correspondence of the main ukrov via Facebook. K-he, k-he. ATO ... laughing
    1. sazhka4
      sazhka4 20 September 2014 10: 28
      0
      Quote: name
      Khe, khe. Ato ...

      To "ATO" ... You can attach so much. The Russian language allows .. On the outskirts of the sites they write in Russian ... Nonsense. "old Ukrainian, weak?)
  16. Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 20 September 2014 09: 45
    0
    No one knows the spider swarms in the bank, what will happen next in the yellow-black Svidomo ukrov ukrov of the ancestors of mankind, but they are recorded in psychiatric clinics. The trouble is that you need to fix not only these hooks.
  17. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 20 September 2014 09: 47
    0
    Do not pay friends to these superhumans, darlings scold, only amuse, God help them.
  18. sever.56
    sever.56 20 September 2014 09: 55
    +20
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/992/btgz187.jpg
    1. IOwTZ
      IOwTZ 20 September 2014 10: 46
      +3
      Oh laugh. Thank. The UKRs of Dibi are finished as their clumsy tongue. Sounds like a battalion commander battalion battalion, Moscow and Arbat are behind us. The boys and I roll away laughing. Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
    2. Shishiga
      Shishiga 20 September 2014 11: 20
      +1
      author burns not childishly laughing laughing wassat
    3. Prager
      Prager 20 September 2014 12: 11
      +1
      Well, you made laugh, already the hair laughs!
  19. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 20 September 2014 09: 58
    0
    And yet who would not say what .. (supposedly vsslilputin) And Russia won the time .. Crimea was taken (bloodless) New Russia got stronger militarily .. The junta is bled out in all respects (the main thing is demoralized) Winter is on the nose .. there is no gas and even coal (all bombed) The West is not going to help so it feeds cookies and claps its hands ..! Russia has imposed sanctions, but we also have them .. Yes, it will be difficult and very, and yet I think we are on the right path .. Here's something else the country begins a cleanup .. (with Makarevich (gand om), you don't need to go far to a boycott throughout the country) .. So as the saying goes, "We will not die alive .. all the same, all nay ... m ..)))) Here such things in the tank troops .. hi
  20. Dezinto
    Dezinto 20 September 2014 10: 02
    +3
    They have elections soon ........ you can’t poop not win smile
  21. sazhka4
    sazhka4 20 September 2014 10: 04
    +1
    The guard is tired ... Please leave the guardhouse. Warm up at home. On the "censor", the "jumps" somehow diminished, and the brains began to turn on. Strange .. But the frost has not come yet. I stock up on seeds and watch the TV series "Okraina" (Ukraine). The main thing is that the "bear" does not spoil the picture .. If again with a pitiful face and talk about "brother (lyad)" people, it does not spoil the impression .. In the end, the People's money, and you can't just give 5 lard for " friendship of peoples ". Be afraid of kakly .. He will translate the arrows for you too ... There is already information that the police will be renamed the police on the outskirts.
  22. novobranets
    novobranets 20 September 2014 10: 09
    +4
    I have the honor. Minister of Internal Affairs,
    This is some kind of surrealism, everything turned upside down. Pedpilo "has the honor", he already had his honor so that there is nowhere else. In Kaklandia, black became white, white black, killing unarmed people is courage, robbery is a blessing for the country, meanness, betrayal is a common thing. I have lost hope that they will wake up someday, and therefore it is necessary to drive, all those who applauded the maydanuts, with whose consent the war is being fought, to drive back to where support comes from them — to the mattress, Poland, Romania. Let them babysit these zombies.
  23. hunt
    hunt 20 September 2014 10: 10
    +5
    In the news feed - not known entered the White House -. Apparently Syoma Semenchenko is looking for a meeting with the head of the phishington, he raised a panic.
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 20 September 2014 10: 13
      +4
      He with his smiley can turn a tank company into flight, to say nothing of the unfortunate guard of the future toilet.
  24. BOB044
    BOB044 20 September 2014 10: 14
    +1
    These warriors and to the wall and in public from a machine gun.
  25. propolsky
    propolsky 20 September 2014 10: 15
    +1
    But the most disgusting thing is that one and the other do not care about all the dead! Political pluses put in your pocket no more than dancing on the bones.
  26. Wellych
    Wellych 20 September 2014 10: 29
    +4
    70 people died? Tymchuk confounded nervously smokes on the sidelines.
  27. luka666
    luka666 20 September 2014 10: 43
    +2
    The general wanted to bury the "rubbish" that interfered with him and other politicians in the trenches of the war. But the starley did not understand what they were trying for him, so he poured out bile on the pages of the book.
  28. Signature
    Signature 20 September 2014 11: 09
    +1
    Wow: the Minister of Defense of Ukraine, not at war with anyone (but "simply" atomizing the East, that is, trying to disassemble it into atoms) publicly speaks of war ("war is more important now")!
    So where are these lovely ladies from the State Department? Really ceased to rustle newspaper tabloid pages and view the social network information flows ?!
    1. sazhka4
      sazhka4 20 September 2014 11: 21
      +1
      Quote: Signatur
      Wow: the Minister of Defense of Ukraine, not at war with anyone (but "simply" atomizing the East, that is, trying to disassemble it into atoms) publicly speaks of war ("now it is war that is more important")!

      Simpler, you have to be .. Simpler ...
      1. Signature
        Signature 20 September 2014 13: 00
        +4
        Well, you will not wait that straight "right now" and I will begin to say goodbye: first ten years of the Soviet school must be discarded, then five more - university ones, but this (to be honest) is far and far from all. You can't go to bed here even at 25 ...
        But for sincere concern for the pernicious "uneasy" - bow to you (and plus in addition)!
  29. Mantykora
    Mantykora 20 September 2014 12: 16
    +2
    Quote: victorsh
    Where did the Avakov HONOR come from?

    Silence here already about honor ... He is also illiterate: This is "not worthy, not fair" - "not" is written here together, if there was "no", then separately. Learn Russian, "Pan" Avakov.
  30. Evilcat
    Evilcat 20 September 2014 13: 15
    +1
    Ukrainian Defense Minister Valery Geletey said that with a high degree of skepticism refers to the participation in the parliamentary elections of the commanders of territorial battalions. At the same time, Geletey noted that such battalion commanders who go into politics during the war are not heroes.

    But the minister going into politics under similar conditions is certainly a hero.
  31. sv68
    sv68 20 September 2014 13: 48
    0
    I understand that Avakova has someone with a beautiful surname honor! laughing laughing
  32. gmasterbit
    gmasterbit 20 September 2014 13: 51
    +2
    But in power in Ukraine there is not a single person normal in the medical and psychological sense .. homosexuals, lesbians, nympho-girls, Klitschko, imbeciles ... there is not a single normal person in the photo ... and they obey, approve. Is the whole nation there now such ??
  33. Baloo
    Baloo 20 September 2014 21: 10
    +1
    Avakov has the honor. Already a joke, black humor, understand how you want.
    And what about the Kharkov patient. Who ordered it? Who is this villain? Assassins and looters in dill appear to be considered heroes and people of honor.

    Hey Avakov, the heroes of Ukraine, they are all in the militia of Donetsk and Lugansk fighting for their freedom and land with such an abomination like you. am
  34. Baloo
    Baloo 20 September 2014 21: 12
    +3
    Avakov has the honor. Already a joke, black humor, understand how you want.
    And what about the Kharkov patient. Who ordered it? Who is this villain? Assassins and looters in dill appear to be considered heroes and people of honor.

    Hey Avakov, the heroes of Ukraine, they are all in the militia of Donetsk and Lugansk fighting for their freedom and land with such an abomination like you. am
  35. demidoff-59
    demidoff-59 20 September 2014 22: 01
    +2
    Yes-ah-ah-ah ... two "velykih strategists" !!! One is fighting in a "feyKbuk", and the second has already begun to brush aside the "vigorous bombs" in Lugansk !!!
  36. krivdaSPb
    krivdaSPb 21 September 2014 13: 50
    0
    They gathered different weeds into one broom, and now it has bloomed in a riotous color - it blooms so much, even if you take the saints away. One weed of another is trying to drown out. Fragrance for the whole country.
  37. gorez.69
    gorez.69 21 September 2014 15: 29
    0
    the stronger they get the better