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Israel’s Nuclear Issue: Project Daniel

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Israel’s Nuclear Issue: Project Daniel"If in the near future, the countries of the Middle East, in particular Iran, will develop nuclear technologies that Israel considers a threat, then Israel will have to partially disclose its nuclear capabilities as a deterrent."

This is one of the main recommendations of the “Daniel” project, launched by experts to assess the threat to Israel’s national security created by the countries of the Middle East, and Iran in particular. At one time, this report was presented to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, writes the information and analytical website i-HLS.

The "Daniel" project took as a basis the assumption that the security of Israel should be constantly enhanced in view of the threat from "irrational countries" and non-governmental terrorists armed with unconventional weapons. It is believed that this threat poses an immediate danger to the existence of Israel. Therefore, Israel must retain its first strike capabilities and develop them further in order to maintain its ability to initiate a preventive strike.

From the report of the project participants it becomes clear that the main threat to Israel comes from two sides. The first of these is a conventional war initiated by a coalition of Arab countries, regardless of the participation of Iran in it. The second threat is an unconventional attack using weapons of mass destruction (WMD) - atomic, biological or chemical, either in the framework of a first strike, or during an escalation of a conventional armed conflict.

After analyzing both types of threats, Daniel’s project participants recommended the following:

1. Israel must do everything in its power to prevent the formation of a hostile coalition armed with weapons of mass destruction. One way to prevent such a coalition is to launch a preemptive strike against countries that are on the brink of weapons of weapons of mass destruction.

2. Israel must continue to adhere to its policy of nuclear uncertainty in order to prevent any future use of the argument by its enemies: "If Israel can possess nuclear weapons, then we can." However, in the future, Israel may have to change its policy to conceal its capabilities to a limited extent. Such a change can only happen if the enemies of Israel succeed in developing or acquiring nuclear weapons.

3. Israel will not be able to survive unless it continues to maintain a policy of trust that is crucial in nuclear deterrence, complete with missile defense systems capable of providing countermeasures against ballistic missiles. Such a policy can be used within the prerequisites of deterrence, and not after the first blow has already been dealt.

4. Israel must prioritize at least 15 strategic facilities in hostile countries in the Middle East.

When members of the Daniel project met with Prime Minister Sharon and presented their recommendations, they wanted to emphasize the extent of the Islamist threat to Israel and gave the following figures: the Arab world consists of 22 countries, the total population is 144.000.000. If a Palestinian state is created, it will become 23. The Islamist world, however, includes the country's 44 and more than one billion people. The total territory of these countries in 672 is more than the territory of Israel.

Team members argue that Israel’s strategic future is based on the assumption that the threat of an attack for total annihilation against Israel stems from a “clash of civilizations” and not from strategic differences. Israel, as a stronghold of Western culture in the BV, is a threat to the Arab and Islamic Jihad, which is deeply rooted in their faith and religion. In addition, Israel, they believe, has no chance of achieving "peaceful coexistence" with the Palestinians, or "every settlement is akin to peace."

The findings of the Daniel Project report say: “We encounter“ irrational ”enemies, countries or terrorist organizations armed with nuclear or biological weapons and ready to use them. In this regard, we should not exclude that Israel may find itself in a "conflict situation" not only in relation to a clearly defined enemy country, but also against non-governmental organizations that will use "suicide bombers", which will serve as a "trigger" for war to "destroy the Zionists."

With this turn of events, Israel will not be able to use its nuclear capabilities against the enemy country, since no one can be appointed as a source of unconventional terrorist attack. For this reason, the team invites Israel to develop a practical and effective preventive strike policy.

The strategic future of Israel, experts say, greatly depends on the prosperity of the Israeli economy. Obviously, all the high defense spending will have a negative economic effect. The defense budget, which will exceed 7% of Israel’s GNP, will seriously weaken the country's capabilities.

The team recognizes that Israel is facing increased isolation propaganda in the international community, so they believe that Israel will have to rely more on its own resources and capabilities than before.
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  1. Igor39
    Igor39 22 September 2014 08: 47
    +3
    Is the USA not going to impose sanctions against Jews for nuclear weapons? Or can the Jews and the rest not?
    1. Alexander
      Alexander 22 September 2014 10: 09
      +2
      Israel already has it) Yes, Israel is not Russia, everything is possible for it - it can bomb its neighbors without the knowledge of any UN and seize land.
    2. 222222
      222222 22 September 2014 10: 37
      +4
      "1. One of the ways to prevent such a coalition is to deliver a preemptive strike on countries that are on the brink of weapons of mass destruction."

      ..... shook a test tube of white powder at the UN for half an hour and you can proactively one of 15 ("4. Israel should prioritize at least 15 strategically important targets in hostile Middle East countries.)) or all at once? ?
      .....
      1. What is the preparation of public opinion, sensing the reaction of the so-called world democracy? Or intimidation due to growing dissatisfaction with Israeli policies?
      2. A signal to start an intensified arms race in the countries of the region, including Iran ???
    3. Professor
      Professor 22 September 2014 11: 38
      +5
      Quote: Igor39
      el "says the following:" We are faced with "irrational" enemies, countries or terrorist organizations, in

      Which agreement did this Israel violate? Why sanctions, dear? wink
      1. bazilio
        bazilio 22 September 2014 12: 26
        +4
        Quote: Professor
        Which agreement did this Israel violate? Why sanctions, dear? wink

        This is how to look, if you want, you can call anyone an irrational enemy, here it is not so simple.
        And sanctions for the unauthorized use of force, for example, or for nuclear weapons, although Israel has not signed an agreement on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons .. Imagine that Israel will be with a pro-Russian vector externally. US politicians will find many reasons for sanctions
        1. Professor
          Professor 22 September 2014 13: 41
          +6
          Quote: bazilio
          This is how to look, if you want, you can call anyone an irrational enemy, here it is not so simple.
          And sanctions for the unauthorized use of force, for example, or for nuclear weapons, although Israel has not signed an agreement on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons .. Imagine that Israel will be with a pro-Russian vector externally. US politicians will find many reasons for sanctions

          Nonetheless. I want, impose sanctions, I want not. This is my own business. It's like I don’t want to talk with a neighbor and that’s it. However, for the whole house to join these sanctions, residents must agree with me. So it is here. Sudan, for example, has neither trade nor diplomatic relations with Israel (they imposed sanctions), regardless of whether it has nuclear weapons in Israel. The United States wants to impose sanctions tomorrow, will find a reason and you won’t go anywhere.
        2. And Us Rat
          22 September 2014 15: 49
          +6
          Quote: bazilio
          The United States will find many reasons for what sanctions to throw


          Nothing new.

          1. During the first Arab-Israeli war, US authorities supported an arms embargo on belligerents and created difficulties for American volunteers who wanted to take part in this war.

          2. In the 50s. relations between Israel and the US were still cool. The United States refused to supply arms to Israel on the eve of the Sinai company.

          3. In 1958, relations that began to emerge were overshadowed by a report by the US State Department on the existence in Israel of a nuclear research center in Dimona, built with the help of France.

          4. After the end of the war of 1967 The American administration supports UNSC resolution 242. In its Resolution, the UN Security Council demanded the withdrawal of the Israeli armed forces from the territories occupied during the conflict, called for the immediate cessation of all aggressive declarations and any state of war. (The Arab position is that the resolution calls on Israel unilaterally).

          5. In 1974, the American Congress adopted the Jackson-Vanik Amendment, and on January 3, 1975, it was signed by President Gerald Ford. In March of that year, a diplomatic conflict broke out between the United States and Israel over the presence of Israeli soldiers in Sinai.

          6. At the beginning of the presidency of Ronald Reagan, Israel and the United States sign an agreement on strategic cooperation between the countries, but after the adoption of the Golan Heights Act in the Knesset, this agreement is canceled by the American side. The bombing of the Iraqi Osirak reactor and the sale of Boeing E-3 Sentry reconnaissance aircraft to the Saudi Arabia led to a sharp cooling of relations between Israel and the United States.

          Etc.
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      3. Dry_T-50
        Dry_T-50 1 October 2014 14: 59
        +2
        I also do not quite understand. Israel did not seem to sign the NPT
  2. Fedor
    Fedor 22 September 2014 08: 56
    +1
    Sooner or later, nuclear weapons will fall into the hands of Islamic fanatics, one way or another. And they will apply it to their "best friends".
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 26 September 2014 15: 22
      +4
      Quote: Fedor
      Sooner or later, nuclear weapons will fall into the hands of Islamic fanatics, one way or another. And they will apply it to their "best friends".

      To prevent this from happening, the Daniel project was created. Everything is logical.
  3. bmv04636
    bmv04636 22 September 2014 10: 09
    0
    In the blood, Israel will flood the fosterlings of the "light elves" ISIS and similar organizations that so diligently nurture the monarchies of the Gulf under the control of the "light elves"
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 22 September 2014 10: 23
      +7
      To do this, they will have to take control of Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, create a normal army, purchase new equipment, train drugs for 5 years and then maybe they can openly oppose IDF ...
      1. bmv04636
        bmv04636 22 September 2014 12: 36
        +2
        Or it is easier to take control of the flooded monarchies, and their armament (monarchies) be healthy thanks to the "light elves" of the euro collective farmers and, in recent times, Israel.
        1. And Us Rat
          22 September 2014 15: 31
          +7
          Quote: bmv04636
          Or is it easier to take control of the flood monarchies ...

          Where have you seen that the servants "took control" of their main breadwinners?

          Quote: bmv04636
          and their armaments (monarchies) be healthy ...

          Only it is located far away, and therefore its presence is monopenisual to us.
          And it will not help them, cutting out an enemy equipped with equipment is our main feature, but it’s much harder to fight with guerilla, especially when she is hiding behind a peaceful one.
          It’s really easier for us to burn an armored division than to uproot a dozen Papuans and Kalash from a peaceful village, I won’t exaggerate.
  4. Professor
    Professor 22 September 2014 11: 40
    +6
    Finger article sucked. Did the authors have a super secret project "Daniel" in their hands?
    1. tilix
      tilix 22 September 2014 12: 04
      +3
      The author, Ami Doron, has been dealing with this issue for years.
      example information:
      http://www.acpr.org.il/nativ/articles/2008_3_beres.pdf
      1. Professor
        Professor 22 September 2014 12: 10
        0
        Quote: tilix
        The author, Ami Doron, has been dealing with this issue for years.
        example information:

        We look at the source for your link:
        רי אריאל מרכז, “Israel's Strategic Future: Project Daniel” ראו
        מדיניות (ACPR), ישראל, נייר עמדה מס '155, מאי 64, 2004 עמודים. מסמך
        .
        לפרסום.

        "... was presented to the Prime Minister only and is not intended for publication."
        1. tilix
          tilix 22 September 2014 12: 21
          +4
          My link shows the opinion of one of the project participants after five years of writing it.
          1. Professor
            Professor 22 September 2014 13: 42
            +1
            Quote: tilix
            My link shows the opinion of one of the project participants after five years of writing it.

            The question is valid, did he hold this project in his hands?
            1. tilix
              tilix 22 September 2014 14: 16
              +1
              To ask him? : squeak:
              By the way, in "הערה" he indicates where the firewood comes from.
  5. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 22 September 2014 12: 28
    +3
    [media = http: // http: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = EA59uXRkLuE] A video on the topic. And where is the Israeli counterintelligence looking? She has stolen a top-secret report from under the journalist’s nose and immediately to online publications, on the wiki, scientific seminars are already held bully I thought it would be something like a photo report from a secret base, and here it’s just a compilation of banal facts and conclusions that are already obvious to everyone. But the idea of ​​7% is interesting. If Israel does not pursue a flexible policy of brutal force, then no resources and technical superiority is not enough to reflect the possible military threat of a union of states or proto-state formations of a new type.
    1. And Us Rat
      22 September 2014 15: 19
      +3
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      Video in the subject.


      And here is another laughing

  6. bazilio
    bazilio 22 September 2014 12: 32
    +4
    Israeli nuclear weapons are a long-standing topic of debate ... And indeed, there are many disputes around Israel. But we must pay tribute to the Jews - they guard their land, they take security issues seriously. Maybe their actions look reprehensible, illegal, etc., but they are logical and consistent.
    1. tilix
      tilix 22 September 2014 14: 19
      +4
      An example of illegal please if it does not bother you.
      1. bazilio
        bazilio 22 September 2014 15: 44
        +3
        Quote: tilix
        An example of illegal please if it does not bother you.

        Dear, do not misunderstand, I said "look illegal" .... does not mean that they are. Yes, and different aspects of Israeli history can be interpreted in different ways - this is not the point - legal, illegal, most importantly consistent, logical, aimed at ensuring security .. in simple terms - they don't click their beak, that's what I wanted to say.
        1. tilix
          tilix 22 September 2014 16: 31
          +5
          I understood you, dear, and just wanted to say that, as you rightly noted, they look and are between, there is not a small chasm.
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  8. padded jacket
    padded jacket 22 September 2014 13: 04
    +3
    Israeli soldiers are rather timid therefore, they just need atomic weapons.
    Here we see a small but fearless Arab boy who drives to the teeth of an armed but scared Israeli soldier.

    The boy is stronger, this punisher is in fact the truth on his side, this is his land only temporarily occupied by the invaders.
    Therefore, the Israelis created an atomic bomb from fear, and also to blackmail their Arabs.
    Hence the disappointing conclusion that Syria and Iran simply need to create an atomic bomb that would defend themselves from the over-aggression of this state, because with fear Israel might start to launch nuclear strikes against all its neighbors and, unfortunately, not only its neighbors.
    We perfectly understand this, for example, according to the statements of some representatives of this nation that -87% of the inhabitants of Russia are predators and freeloaders.
    Yes, scary, atomic weapons in the hands of a crazy regime-it is a threat to life on earth.And all the people of our planet must stand in a single rush and say- NOTherefore, the state is a threatening monster, its neighbors and supporting terror and violence in the world.
    1. Professor
      Professor 22 September 2014 13: 45
      +8
      Quote: quilted jacket
      Yes, it’s scary, atomic weapons in the hands of a crazy regime are a threat to life on Earth. And all the people of our planet must stand up and say, “NO” to this state is a monster threatening its neighbors and supporting terror and violence in the world.

      Quilted jacket, why are you not yet in Gaza and are not helping your brothers to fight the "occupation"? Frightened by fearful Jewish soldiers? wink
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 22 September 2014 14: 00
        +2
        You see, here is a double-edged sword, because if Hamas starts bending your army like Hezbollah in 2006, you can deliver a nuclear strike on the sector by destroying there- All,of people.
        After all, everyone knows that your punitive army can only fight from afar, shooting cities from artillery and inflicting air strikes on them. Killing mainly the civilian population of children, women and the elderly. This you have repeatedly proved in the numerous punitive wars unleashed by your military.
        Therefore, the Palestinians did not defeat Israel, because it simply could-KILLall of them, with an atomic bomb.
        1. Professor
          Professor 22 September 2014 14: 28
          +5
          Quote: quilted jacket
          You see, here is a double-edged sword, because if Hamas starts bending your army like Hezbollah in 2006, you can deliver a nuclear strike on the sector by destroying EVERYONE there, people.

          Yes, long ago I would have stooped like Hezbollah, we only have two hands "For". Since 2006, the "winner" of Hezbollah sits and does not rock the boat, its Lebanese border has never been so quiet, and the winner of Nasrallah himself climbs out of the bunker no more than once a year, and even then for a couple of minutes. As you can see, nuclear weapons were not needed. Do you remember how yours got it all together in 1973? How did you get away from the "fearful" Jewish soldiers with the advantage in manpower and equipment? Again, nuclear weapons were not needed.

          Quote: quilted jacket
          After all, everyone knows that your punitive army can only fight from afar, shooting cities from artillery and delivering air strikes on them.

          Yah? From far away? Do you poke your nose into facts again?
          Here are Israeli tanks in Beirut


          Here are Israeli tanks in Africa



          Here are Israeli tanks in Gaza


          Still give? wink

          Quote: quilted jacket
          Killing mostly civilians of children, women and the elderly. This you have repeatedly proved in the numerous punitive wars unleashed by your military.

          You're lying again? Give us a list of names and surnames and together we will calculate how many women and old people are there. Oh yes. In your opinion, the Arabs are illiterate and not able to make such lists laughing

          Quote: quilted jacket
          Therefore, the Palestinians did not defeat Israel, because he simply could-KILL them all with an atomic bomb.

          Wow and grass is now strong. How do you imagine it? Like Israel will drop an atomic bomb on Ramallah 5 km from its own capital, Jerusalem?

          I repeat the question: Quilted jacket, why are you not yet in Gaza and are not helping your brothers to fight the "occupation"? Frightened by fearful Jewish soldiers?
          1. tilix
            tilix 22 September 2014 14: 34
            +1
            barking dog does not bite

    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 22 September 2014 17: 26
      +2
      If you look closely, the soldier in the video does not chase the boy, but
      runs in parallel from behind, and then runs away from him.
      The soldier had his own tasks, not related to this guy.
  9. padonok.71
    padonok.71 22 September 2014 15: 56
    0
    Quote: And Us Rat
    cutting out an enemy equipped with equipment is our main feature

    Quote: And Us Rat
    It’s really easier for us to burn an armored division

    Quote: Professor
    I want, impose sanctions, I want not. This is my own business

    Quote: Professor
    Nasrallah climbs out of the bunker no more than once a year, and even then for a couple of minutes. As you can see, nuclear weapons were not needed

    Quote: Professor
    Here are Israeli tanks in Beirut

    Quote: Professor
    Here are Israeli tanks in Africa

    Quote: Professor
    Here are Israeli tanks in Gaza

    Quote: Professor
    Still give?

    Well, what can I say? I really liked the statement of one person from the forum - SUPERREVERS!
  10. dmb
    dmb 22 September 2014 16: 06
    +2
    God forbid, I have been an internationalist all my life, but after today's comments justifying the presence of nuclear weapons in our country and criticizing, say, Iran, it is no wonder to go into some anti-Semites and great-power chauvinists. And it’s not directly the occupiers of the same Golan heights, but individuals who profess humanistic ideals of humanity. You need to be more modest.
    1. michodil
      michodil 22 September 2014 16: 16
      -3
      A vi pryamo ne te okkypanti Kurril i Kalinengrada))
      1. dmb
        dmb 22 September 2014 18: 24
        +1
        I do not quite understand how your claims to my country relate to a different approach to the right to nuclear weapons of Israel and Iran. But if you have already touched on this topic, I will answer with pleasure. When committing aggression, the aggressor country should know that if it is defeated, it may lose a part of its territory. This is in parts of Japan. I don’t even speak about Germany. Even if all Germans would remain only those who were sitting in camps and fighting against Hitler, and the German state did not exist at all, this would not make up for the hundredth part of the retribution for the committed in our country. Somehow like this. And the double standards mentioned by your friend in tautology have nothing to do with it.
        1. tilix
          tilix 22 September 2014 18: 35
          +5
          No matter what? Syria, committing aggression - should know that if it is defeated, it may lose a part of its territory. According to your words. As it happened. So good with Japan and bad with Syria? Here they are double standards.
          But whether there will be more. Soon, Ukraine will want to resume its nuclear arsenal. What then shall we say?
          1. dmb
            dmb 22 September 2014 19: 30
            +5
            Once again, for the gifted, I repeat, what do your claims to any country have to a different approach to the right to nuclear weapons? I don’t remember that you were at war with Iraq when you bombed its territory. So the rights to such weapons in your country and Iran are exactly the same. If Ukraine wants, then let it try, if it can. True, I’m not sure that this will greatly please Poland in the first place, not to mention Germany.
            1. Professor
              Professor 22 September 2014 20: 48
              +2
              Quote: dmb
              I do not remember that you were at war with Iraq when you bombed its territory.

              Learn the history and can remember how in 1948 Iraq attacked Israel and how it did it again in 1973. Refreshed in memory? wink
              1. dmb
                dmb 22 September 2014 21: 29
                +3
                Professor. It is with great pleasure that I read your technical comments, in which you reasonably put in place our wizards. Do not be like them and pretend that you did not understand my question about the right to a military atom and the absence of any difference in this right between the two states of the UN members. If, in your opinion, Iran does not have such a right, then Israel does not have it. Or do you claim exclusivity?
                1. Professor
                  Professor 22 September 2014 21: 34
                  +2
                  Quote: dmb
                  Or do you claim exclusivity?


                  I am for justice. To all so to all. It’s like giving a rifled gun to everyone. Crazy, crazy, crime. Why is it possible for you, but a neighbor cannot be drunk? We need to give everyone a firearm and it will be like in Somalia or Afghanistan.
                  So nuclear weapons. Why is Russia possible, but not Afghanistan, Georgia, Tajikistan, and another 190 countries? Or do you claim exclusivity?
                  1. dmb
                    dmb 22 September 2014 21: 43
                    0
                    That's because the neighbor is an alcoholic and has limited rights. Please recall when and against whom Iran committed acts of aggression? There are much more claims to your country in this matter. I'm not talking about your schizophrenic ally. There is a delirium tremens in the form of planting democracy.
                    1. tilix
                      tilix 23 September 2014 00: 18
                      +3
                      Good evening. Iran has stated more than once or twice, quite officially, that they are going to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. The threat is quite aggression, and we are responsible for the bazaar, which is what Iran wants.

                      And here is your statement showing that you have double standards.
                      And it’s not directly the occupiers of the same Golan heights, but individuals who profess humanistic ideals of humanity. You need to be more modest.


                      What and you want.
                    2. Professor
                      Professor 23 September 2014 08: 57
                      +1
                      Quote: dmb
                      That's because the neighbor is an alcoholic and has limited rights. Please recall when and against whom Iran committed acts of aggression?

                      So he (the drunk) should still be limited, but Iran calling to erase Israel from the world map is not? Remind you of acts of aggression of Iran in relation to Israel, or google yourself? And what about your exclusivity? Why can Russia have nuclear weapons, but not Afghanistan? Why Russia with veto rights in the UN Security Council, and Moldova not? Exceptional? wink

                      Quote: dmb
                      There are much more claims to your country in this matter.

                      Israel was the first to never attack anyone. Forgot?
                      1. dmb
                        dmb 23 September 2014 09: 38
                        +2
                        No, I haven't forgotten. Only you are dissembling. I will not refer to the sources, obviously in your opinion, are "anti-Semitic", check out Wikipedia, quite a tolerant English-language source, not noticed in anti-Semitism. I think you know what is stated there as well as I do, so I will not repeat it. You cannot refute the stated above. Defending your country is a laudable thing, but only to a certain extent. The fact that you are trying to justify any actions of your state is also its protection. But do not forget that the Germans, having come to our house, also looked for similar excuses for their actions. On the question of "exclusivity". Unlike you, I do not start with the first arguments: "And they hang blacks." At the time when the Security Council was created, our country had such a right, and the inhabitants of your state should remember this first of all. Today, international law is a fig leaf that you and your main ally can do well without. So I personally don't mind. let Moldova have the right of veto, and Afghanistan has a nuclear bomb. if they can create it themselves. Whether the technologies of creation will be supplied to them by "peacekeepers" like you and the United States, then we will prevent this, because it is perfectly clear why you are doing this.
                      2. Professor
                        Professor 23 September 2014 11: 12
                        +1
                        Quote: dmb
                        No, I haven’t forgotten. After all, you are disingenuous.

                        Yah? Get the facts into the studio when Israel first attacked its neighbors.

                        Quote: dmb
                        Unlike you, I do not start with the first arguments: "And they hang blacks."

                        I repeat. Israel does not want Iran to have nuclear weapons as these religious fanatics threaten to destroy Israel. Do you trace logic? And now the question for you: Why are you against the fact that all countries in the world have nuclear weapons? Or do you claim exclusivity? wink

                        Quote: dmb
                        So I personally don't mind. let Moldova have the right of veto, and Afghanistan has a nuclear bomb. if they can create it themselves. Whether the technologies of creation will be supplied to them by "peacekeepers" like you and the United States, then we will prevent this, because it is perfectly clear why you are doing this.

                        Equality is universal. Give the Taliban, Estonia and Ichkeria nuclear weapons. Why are they worse than you? wink Or do you claim exclusivity? wink

                        Quote: dmb
                        At that moment, when the Security Council was created, our country had such a right, and so the residents of your state should remember this first of all.

                        Why on earth should we remember the right of your vetto in the Security Council? It has never been used in our favor. Why does Russia have a veto right, while nuclear India with a population of 10 times more does not? Or do you claim exclusivity? wink
                      3. arslan23
                        arslan23 24 September 2014 10: 36
                        0
                        I can see how they sit in Iran and say "These Jews are religious fanatics they cannot be trusted!" And the same thing in Israel, just the opposite. And there is nothing that Arabs and Jews have common roots. The most terrible wars begin where people believe in their exclusivity and their exclusive right to a preemptive strike. Question to the professor: what should Iran do after a preemptive strike? Clap?
                      4. Professor
                        Professor 24 September 2014 14: 32
                        +1
                        Quote: arslan23
                        I can see how they sit in Iran and say "These Jews are religious fanatics they cannot be trusted!" And the same thing in Israel, just the opposite.

                        They say that nuclear weapons have existed in Israel since the 1960s. And as you see, Israel not only did not apply it even in the most critical moments for itself, but even does not frighten anyone.

                        Quote: arslan23
                        Question to the professor what to do Iran after a preemptive strike? Clap?

                        Swallow a frog and go about their business.
                      5. arslan23
                        arslan23 30 September 2014 16: 46
                        0
                        The fact that Israel has never used WMD has not yet been said. The main thing is the concept of its application. If Israel allows the possibility of a preventive nuclear strike like the United States, what will prevent it from taking advantage of it? The United States dropped nuclear weapons on Hiroshima and nothing, sleep well at night, conscience does not torment. As for Iran, I hope they do not follow your advice. After all, if the Iranian military begins to go about their business, then this could end badly for everyone. No one has guarantees that they do not have ready-made nuclear warheads. Or they won’t be in a couple of years. So you can ask as a person close to the situation, is it really impossible to make friends with Iran, to establish relations? Money and the economy can do a lot. A preventive nuclear strike is debelism. Only scumbags can believe in its effectiveness. These thugs will be in the bunker before they press the button, and ordinary Israelis will drink tea peacefully at the moment when Iran begins to do its job. Here it is the highest justice.
    2. tilix
      tilix 22 September 2014 16: 41
      +3
      Well, by God, I have been an internationalist all my life, but after various comments justifying my annexation and criticizing Israel, say, it’s no wonder to switch to some kind of anti-Russian and chauvinist. And it’s not directly the invaders of the same Kuril Islands, but individuals who profess humanistic ideals of humanity. You need to be more modest. And do not live by double standards.
  11. padded jacket
    padded jacket 22 September 2014 16: 08
    +1
    Well, what kind of photo did you bring? The fact that there were Israeli tanks we already know, this once again speaks of the aggressiveness of your state.
    And the fact that Nasrallah is allegedly sitting in a bunker is already in the possession of your assassins, many enemies, for example, among the terrorists whom Israel sponsors and feeds.
    But for example the defeat of your much-praised Merkava in 2006.

    Do you want to put a photo of your broken tanks?
    And here, as your leadership managed, in 1973 after the military offensive of Egypt and Syria:
    After three days of bloody battles, a direct road to Jerusalem opened before the Syrian tanks, and in the evening of October 7, Defense Minister Moshe Dayan in a panic turned to Golda Meir with a proposal to capitulate. However, the prime minister, about whom the Israelis said: “There is only one man in the government, and that one is a woman named Golda!” did not share the defeatist mood of the general. In the early morning hours of October 8, at an emergency cabinet meeting, she announced her final verdict: “No surrender. We will use nuclear weapons and destroy Cairo and Damascus! ”
    Indeed, Israel had eighteen atomic bombs at its disposal. The ministers understood that the “iron lady” had lost the sense of reality, and no one could convince her. A deathly silence hung in the hall. Golda Meir in her own way regarded the silence of her comrades. Not hesitating for a second, she gave the order to Moshe Dayan to immediately put on alert the entire nuclear arsenal ...
    http://ru-an.info/%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8/%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BA-
    %D1%80%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5-%D0%B7%D0%B0-%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BD
    -%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%8C-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8-%D0%B
    A-%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%8F%D0%B4%D0%BA%D1%83-%D0%B8%D0%B7%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%B
    B% D1% 8C /
    That is, your inadequate leadership already tried to plunge the world into the abyss of nuclear war, so you have atomic weapons like a grenade near a monkey. You can use it against anyone, and not just against Arabs.
    Here are the UN data on the victims:
    Almost two thousand people became victims of the Israeli operation in the Gaza Strip. These are mainly civilians. Such data was voiced by UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon.
    "According to preliminary data, almost 2 thousand were killed, of which about 75% were civilians," - Interfax quotes Ban Ki-moon's statement made today during a press conference. He added that the number of children killed in the region has reached 459.
    About 100 residents of the Gaza Strip, according to Ban Ki-moon, lost their homes as a result of the fighting.
    http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1887347
    Quilted jacket, why are you not yet in Gaza and are not helping your brothers to fight the "occupation"? Frightened by fearful Jewish soldiers?

    It’s a pity to offend you, otherwise you’ll manage it with fear smile
    1. michodil
      michodil 22 September 2014 16: 18
      +1
      Jalko chto tolko 2000 chelovek. Malovato bydet.
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 22 September 2014 16: 29
        +3
        Quote: michodil
        Jalko chto tolko 2000 chelovek. Malovato bydet.


        It is a pity that only 2000 (two thousand) Palestinians were killed ???
        Here is an example please -another Israeli Nazi.
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          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 22 September 2014 16: 59
            +1
            Do not lie.
            I want the world to have no war, and not die, not Jews, not Palestinians, not people of other nationalities.
            It is only with people like you, animal thirst for killing.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 22 September 2014 18: 32
              +4
              "I want there to be no war in the whole world" ////

              Just a dove of peace flew to the site
              Military Review ... and like all pigeons ... on the fly ... laughing laughing
              1. padded jacket
                padded jacket 22 September 2014 18: 55
                +2
                What, right on your head? smile
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 22 September 2014 19: 32
                  +2
                  Poor you know Zionist aggressors!
                  We are always wearing helmets ... laughing angry
                  1. padded jacket
                    padded jacket 22 September 2014 19: 52
                    -2
                    So I thought-evil militarists smile
                    1. Aaron Zawi
                      Aaron Zawi 22 September 2014 21: 51
                      +4
                      Quote: quilted jacket
                      So I thought-evil militarists smile

                      "The bosses can't sleep at night again,
                      A nightmare freezes regal eggs
                      That the Chinese are suddenly fighting like the Jews
                      And the Jews multiplied like the Chinese. "
                      I.Guberman
                      1. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 22 September 2014 22: 02
                        +2
                        Thanks, I liked it smile
        2. michodil
          michodil 22 September 2014 16: 50
          +2
          would you rather be Israelites, what would I be Palestinians
        3. slavbag
          slavbag 22 September 2014 20: 58
          -1
          Sweatshirt or whatever it is, and a quilted jacket, you just look in what ass the Arabs and how we won many times, they live very well, we build the country and sell potatoes, carrots, avocados and other things to Russia. Then your compatriots will no longer climb out of moshavim and kibbutz begging to increase the supply of agricultural goods. You are just offended as a regular anti-Semite.
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 22 September 2014 22: 17
            +1
            Once again call me differently padded jacket go to the emergency smile
    2. Professor
      Professor 22 September 2014 21: 04
      +1
      Quote: quilted jacket
      Well, what kind of photo did you bring? The fact that there were Israeli tanks we already know, this once again speaks of the aggressiveness of your state.

      The poor thing is completely confused. Either the Israelis fight "only from afar, shooting cities with artillery and inflicting airstrikes on them," and then tanks and your fellow tribesmen are scaring ...

      Quote: quilted jacket
      And the fact that Nasrallah is allegedly sitting in a bunker is already in the possession of your assassins, many enemies, for example, among the terrorists whom Israel sponsors and feeds.

      So I about the same. Point he has a bench press. He, like you, is a hero only in words. wink

      Quote: quilted jacket
      But for example the defeat of your much-praised Merkava in 2006.

      Tokma friend, not a defeat, but a hit. Do you know the difference or explain?

      Quote: quilted jacket
      Do you want to put a photo of your broken tanks?

      There are no penetrated tanks, there are no penetrated idios ...

      Quote: quilted jacket
      “No surrender. We will use nuclear weapons and destroy Cairo and Damascus! ”

      You chtol attended the meeting al read protocols? Toda share with us. lol

      Quote: quilted jacket
      Almost two thousand people became victims of the Israeli operation in the Gaza Strip. These are mainly civilians.

      I believe. But I just want to take a look at the lists. And then my friend Mahmoud does not get in touch, and I was all worried if he had died a heroic death from the clutches of the Zionist occupation. Padded jacket, on my knees I beg. Show me the list of the dead. Break among your own. Sukra, that is, thankful in advance. Well, you yourself know. crying

      Quote: quilted jacket
      He added that the number of children killed in the region reached 459.

      17-year-old bumpkins are also children. We are in the know. Let's check the list.

      Quote: quilted jacket
      It’s a pity to offend you, otherwise you’ll manage it with fear

      Yah? You won almost 2000 comments written in exclusively "Israeli" topics, but how to defend your fellow tribesmen with weapons in their hands, so one place press-bench. Understand. Learn from Elena Gromova or Tali Fahima.
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 22 September 2014 22: 32
        +3
        You chtol attended the meeting al read protocols? Toda share with us

        Professor, I give a link after each quote, do not you see or prefer not to notice?
        The poor thing is completely confused. Either the Israelis fight "only from afar, shooting cities with artillery and inflicting airstrikes on them," and then tanks and your fellow tribesmen are scaring ...

        So you unfortunate ones just entered the abandoned areas and then so that the photojournalist would "click" on the camera smile
        And when you really encounter an enemy, you immediately have victims, in Gaza how many of your warriors killed 60? Or 70?
        I believe. But I just want to take a look at the lists. And then my friend Mahmoud does not get in touch, and I was all worried if he had died a heroic death from the clutches of the Zionist occupation. Padded jacket, on my knees I beg. Show me the list of the dead. Break among your own. Sukra, that is, thankful in advance. Well, you yourself know.

        And ask Ban Ki-moon for sure he has smile
        Yah? You won almost 2000 comments written in exclusively "Israeli" topics, but how to defend your fellow tribesmen with weapons in their hands, so one place press-bench. Understand. Learn from Elena Gromova or Tali Fahima.

        Or maybe you’re better off to Gaza, or aren’t you going to the army? laughing
        1. Professor
          Professor 23 September 2014 09: 11
          +2
          Quote: quilted jacket
          Professor, I give a link after each quote, do not you see or prefer not to notice?

          Padded jacket, not all links are equally useful. You before you give them your head sometimes think. This one, for example. How does the author know what was at the secret government meeting? AND?

          Quote: quilted jacket
          So you unfortunate ones just entered the abandoned areas and then so that the photojournalist would "click" on the camera

          You want to say that your valiant warriors drapanul and left these areas?

          Quote: quilted jacket
          And when you really encounter an enemy, you immediately have victims, in Gaza how many of your warriors killed 60? Or 70?

          Given that there are 10 times more of yours and since then silence on the border with Gaza, I am pleased. By the way, today two more of yours were sent to Allah. It is those who killed three teenagers. As they say in Atrabic: Kul kalb bij yomo. good

          Quote: quilted jacket
          And ask Ban Ki-moon for sure he has

          And I ask you. You do not consider your names or do you like them as a herd of heads, plus or minus 100 goals? We have all the victims known by name. Show you lists?

          Quote: quilted jacket
          Or maybe you’re better off to Gaza, or aren’t you going to the army?

          So I, unlike you, have been there many times. Baranov pass. wink Well, you understand.
          But you are afraid.

          PS
          Nagan (2) US Today, 05:31 ↑
          Quote: Professor
          The poor thing was completely confused.
          Yes, and. He put me on a black list - to see because the truth hurts his eyes. Already pass to this rag, by mistake of the nature called a padded jacket, that he is a coward.
      2. Revolver
        Revolver 23 September 2014 05: 31
        0
        Quote: Professor
        The poor thing was completely confused.

        Yes, and. He put me on a black list - to see because the truth hurts his eyes. Already pass to this rag, by mistake of the nature called a padded jacket, that he is a coward.
    3. VEKT
      VEKT 10 October 2014 15: 54
      +1
      Let's be fair until the end, if Russia were the size of half the Moscow region and there was nothing to protect here, the hand itself would reach the red button. Israel is not so great that it would have the right to make a mistake, therefore it is ahead of the curve, the Arabs have their own state that they are comfortable with the hare’s drum, they receive humanitarian aid and try not to burden themselves with heavy labor. Or do you think there will be no Israel and the Middle East will heal ?! I doubt it.
  12. padded jacket
    padded jacket 22 September 2014 16: 17
    -1
    Valorous Hezbollah fighters:

    Damaged Israeli tanks:

    1. michodil
      michodil 22 September 2014 16: 54
      +1
      and in general it’s not Hezbollah but Hamasniki in the photo.
    2. Professor
      Professor 22 September 2014 21: 09
      +4
      Quote: quilted jacket
      Valorous Hezbollah fighters:

      Komrad is right, these are Hamas. Do you know how I distinguish yours?

      Quote: quilted jacket
      Damaged Israeli tanks:

      And everything?
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 22 September 2014 22: 42
        +1
        Komrad is right, these are Hamas. Do you know how I distinguish yours?

        How?
        And everything?

        No, I can give more, but I’ll save it until next time. smile
        1. Professor
          Professor 23 September 2014 09: 18
          +2
          Quote: quilted jacket
          How?

          By smell. These stink like sheep, and those like. In general, read what is written on the bandage.

          Quote: quilted jacket
          No, I can give more, but I’ll save it until next time.

          So let's all at once 5. There were no more irrevocable pates. By the way, how's your gas? How many tanks were knocked out? wink
  13. padded jacket
    padded jacket 22 September 2014 16: 51
    +1
    Nasrallah sits in a bunker well-TELLER.
    Here it is, right after the victorious war against Israel:

    The leader of the Hezbollah movement, Sheikh Hasan Nasrallah, congratulated his supporters, gathered in one of the squares of Beirut, on the "divine victory" over Israel.
    He also thanked Allah, the people of Lebanon and his friends abroad for the "support provided."
    Nasrallah accused Israel of "attack and crimes against Lebanon" and also noted the courage of the people who came to the rally. According to the Hezbollah leader, the Israelis threatened to launch an airstrike on him personally and on everyone who had gathered for the "victory rally."
    “But I am standing here, before you,” the sheikh noted his courage.
    About half a million (according to CNN estimates) people came and came to listen to the speech of the Hezbollah leader. The rally is also attended by delegations from countries sympathetic to Hezbollah, as well as some Lebanese ministers and parliamentarians.
    http://lenta.ru/news/2006/09/22/nasrallah/
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 22 September 2014 17: 29
      +6
      Hezbollah began to withdraw its people from Syria.
      Assad will have a hard time ...
      1. Professor
        Professor 22 September 2014 21: 07
        +3
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Hezbollah began to withdraw its people from Syria.

        Duc in the north of Lebanon, the Sunnis are now beating Shiites in full growth. Now it is not up to the help of the Allawites and Assad personally.
    2. slavbag
      slavbag 22 September 2014 21: 00
      +2
      Why is he with a finger? Fear cramped?
    3. Professor
      Professor 22 September 2014 21: 06
      +1
      Quote: quilted jacket
      Nasrallah sits in a bunker well-TELLER.
      Here it is, right after the victorious war against Israel:


      Are you sure the picture is not from the bunker? wink Yes, we would like all our enemies to defeat us as well. I am for it".
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 22 September 2014 22: 14
        +2
        You know how to read, it is also written there at a rally in Beirut.
        By the way, the resource is Jewish as always, so will you believe it or not your business.
        1. Professor
          Professor 23 September 2014 09: 25
          +1
          Quote: quilted jacket
          You know how to read, it is also written there at a rally in Beirut.

          I can read, and you? Read it again:
          Quote: Professor
          Since 2006, the "winner" of Hezbollah sits and does not rock the boat, its Lebanese border has never been so quiet, and the winner of Nasrallah himself climbs out of the bunker not more than once a year, and even then for a couple of minutes.

          Read it carefully?
  14. michodil
    michodil 22 September 2014 16: 53
    +4
    vlom iskat chechenzev i podbitie rysskie tanki, chto za detskie doviddi, detskii sad.
  15. DmitryAndreenko
    DmitryAndreenko 22 September 2014 16: 59
    +5
    Quote: padonok.71

    Well, what can I say? I really liked the statement of one person from the forum - SUPERREVERS!

    And in another way it should not be :)
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 22 September 2014 17: 04
      +1
      Rather, SUPER TELLERS laughing
  16. DmitryAndreenko
    DmitryAndreenko 22 September 2014 17: 10
    -1
    Quote: quilted jacket
    Rather, SUPER TELLERS laughing

    YES, WE HAVE ALL SUPER, and we make fairy tales come true :))
    1. padonok.71
      padonok.71 22 September 2014 17: 41
      -4
      Especially the country you have, well, just very SUPER. We have more beaches. And according to fairy tales, yes, you are strong. Obama with his camarilla, is it not your case? The same storyteller. After all, there are Negro Jews.
      1. And Us Rat
        22 September 2014 19: 29
        +6
        Quote: padonok.71
        Especially the country you have, well, just very SUPER ...

        And sho you still do not like? laughing





        1. padonok.71
          padonok.71 22 September 2014 21: 19
          0
          Good, beautiful, very clean, BUT - LITTLE, VERY LITTLE.
          Do not believe me, take a globe (just not an Israeli globe!), Look, compare, feel the difference, grit your teeth with anger and urgently sit down to scribble new comments with accusations of racism, backwardness, drunkenness, laziness, pedophilia, necrophilia and more want to.
          1. Professor
            Professor 22 September 2014 21: 23
            +5
            Quote: padonok.71
            Good, beautiful, very clean, BUT - LITTLE, VERY LITTLE.

            Envy is a bad life partner.
            1. padonok.71
              padonok.71 22 September 2014 22: 56
              -3
              That's for sure, do not envy the Russian.
              1. Professor
                Professor 23 September 2014 09: 27
                +1
                Quote: padonok.71
                That's for sure, do not envy the Russian.

                And what is actually envious of, and not Russians, but Russians?
          2. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 22 September 2014 21: 53
            +3
            Quote: padonok.71
            Good, beautiful, very clean, BUT - LITTLE, VERY LITTLE.
            Do not believe me, take a globe (just not an Israeli globe!), Look, compare, feel the difference, grit your teeth with anger and urgently sit down to scribble new comments with accusations of racism, backwardness, drunkenness, laziness, pedophilia, necrophilia and more want to.

            I didn’t understand what was not enough for you and why if something is not enough for you, should we blame you for something?
          3. And Us Rat
            22 September 2014 22: 09
            +3
            Quote: padonok.71
            Good, beautiful, very clean, BUT - LITTLE, VERY LITTLE ...

    2. And Us Rat
      22 September 2014 23: 08
      +6
      Quote: DmitryAndreenko
      Quote: quilted jacket
      Rather, SUPER TELLERS laughing

      YES, WE HAVE ALL SUPER, and we make fairy tales come true :))


      To argue with a quilted jacket is like playing chess with a pigeon: he jumps on the board, drops pieces, craps, and then flies away to tell other pigeons about his victory. laughing
      1. Stypor23
        Stypor23 22 September 2014 23: 17
        0
        Quote: And Us Rat
        To argue with a quilted jacket is like playing chess with a pigeon: he jumps on the board, drops pieces, craps, and then flies away to tell other pigeons about his victory.

        You zadalbal, wise guy. good .How many tracks I used. To grab a laugh for the high-society audience.
        1. And Us Rat
          22 September 2014 23: 25
          +5
          Quote: Stypor23
          How many tracks did you use ...


          wassat wassat wassat
          1. Stypor23
            Stypor23 22 September 2014 23: 58
            +2
            Although I am for the shooting of drug addicts. am . They are a destructive element of a healthy society.
  17. padded jacket
    padded jacket 22 September 2014 17: 20
    -1
    I have no doubt - you know how to invent smile
    Just recently laid out, an article stating that the Israelis ascribe authorship to themselves, in the construction of the pyramids in Egypt laughing
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 22 September 2014 17: 59
      +4
      Quote: quilted jacket
      I have no doubt - you know how to invent smile
      Just recently laid out, an article stating that the Israelis ascribe authorship to themselves, in the construction of the pyramids in Egypt laughing

      Padded jacket do not worry, you are so for Israel. Somehow slowly settle down. For example, today we finally agreed:
      Intel pledged to invest in the Israeli economy about 6 billion dollars. In accordance with the agreement, the construction of a new enterprise in the city of Kiryat Gat should be completed by the 2017 year. For 10 years, Intel will receive an 5% tax discount on company activities.
      The first enterprise of the firm in Israel began operations in 1996. Its construction cost $ 1,7 billion. Today Intei Israei employs more than 6 thousand people. "This is a record gift that a foreign company will receive from the state budget. Otherwise, the plant would have been built in Ireland or the United States," said Minister of Economy Naftali Bennett, noting that the enterprise will create 1.000 new jobs in Kiryat Gat.
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 22 September 2014 18: 48
        +1
        It’s clear, that is, you yourself can’t do anything, everything is being built for you smile Your only independent invention is EPILATOR smile
        Liked smile
        For 10 years, Intel will receive a 5% discount on tax payments from the company.
        "This is a record gift that a foreign company will receive from the state budget. Otherwise, the plant would have been built in Ireland or the United States," said the Minister of Economy

        That is, if not for the discount, the plant would have been built in a completely different country smile
        Do not welcome more such examples, otherwise it becomes funny.
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 22 September 2014 19: 08
          +2
          Quote: quilted jacket

          That is, if not for the discount, the plant would have been built in a completely different country smile
          Do not welcome more such examples, otherwise it becomes funny.

          it is as much as you like. In Russia, since the days of GAZ, foreigners have built car factories and nothing, normal people do not draw conclusions from this.
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 22 September 2014 19: 15
            -2
            Not a good example. We ourselves invited those who built plants for us, and you only managed to lure with a discount.
            1. slavbag
              slavbag 22 September 2014 21: 06
              +3
              Is it on which floor mats are laid and called a screwdriver assembly? Self-deception and cut taxes? Specifically, you were bred by foreigners with your bureaucrats. Yes, you continue to believe that the satellites that you periodically drive on the ground are good for the country.
              1. padonok.71
                padonok.71 22 September 2014 21: 45
                0
                What about your orbital constellation? With your global positioning system? Oh yes, you have the very best drones.
                1. Aaron Zawi
                  Aaron Zawi 22 September 2014 21: 54
                  +4
                  Quote: padonok.71
                  What about your orbital constellation? With your global positioning system? Oh yes, you have the very best drones.

                  Today in space 9 Israeli satellites. Given our needs, we still have enough.
                  1. Ascetic
                    Ascetic 23 September 2014 04: 53
                    +5
                    Quote: Aron Zaavi
                    Today in space 9 Israeli satellites. Given our needs, we still have enough.


                    A total of 16 KA in orbit 6 of them are military satellites (Ofek, Risat and Tiskar series)) the rest are communications (Amos series), telecommunications and filming - EROS, Duhifat, created by schoolchildren and recently launched by our crew of the Strategic Missile Forces from Yasnaya (RS-20 "Dnepr") in within the framework of the international project "Kyuubi-50". So, the Israeli orbital group may well compete with the Indian and Chinese.
                2. And Us Rat
                  22 September 2014 22: 07
                  0
                  Quote: padonok.71
                  What about your orbital constellation?

                  I do not want to upset you, but the intelligence is quantitatively and qualitatively higher than yours. request
                  1. Aaron Zawi
                    Aaron Zawi 22 September 2014 22: 36
                    +4
                    Quote: And Us Rat

                    I do not want to upset you, but the intelligence is quantitatively and qualitatively higher than yours. request

                    Well, you bent it. recourse
                    1. And Us Rat
                      22 September 2014 23: 15
                      +3
                      Quote: Aaron Zawi
                      Quote: And Us Rat

                      I do not want to upset you, but the intelligence is quantitatively and qualitatively higher than yours. request

                      Well, you bent it. recourse

                      As for the quantity - I agree, as for the quality - not a bit. request
                      And there’s nothing to say about the efficiency of using the potential of the orbital group, they are in about the same ratio as the effective use of the potential of the Air Force.
                  2. Ascetic
                    Ascetic 23 September 2014 08: 43
                    +3
                    Quote: And Us Rat
                    but the intelligence is quantitatively and qualitatively higher than yours.


                    Well, if you do not take into account the compromised technology for creating the Eros series, then there is some truth in this. But one must take into account the very dynamics of the development of satellite constellation, both quantity and quality composition. This year alone, 11 spacecraft launches have already been carried out (of which the military should have 5 according to plan), even the Americans are ahead (they have 9). 70 billion rubles were allocated to military satellites by the Moscow Region. At the NGO Lavochkina created intelligence networksatellite electronic surveillance system, consisting of five spacecraft. By the way, they bought the filling from you and from the Italians again. This is the revival of the Soviet system "Arsenal" only filming will be "live" in the sub-meter range. By the way, the Arsenal plant has already resumed the production of military satellites.
                    The Berg Institute is working on the Aquarelle project. For the early warning system, the obsolete "Oko-1" is being replaced with the EKS (unified space system), while things are going slowly but going bully
                    and we are lagging behind the same Americans very much. Moreover, not in terms of the quality and "advancedness" of the spacecraft (the same "Persona" will not concede in anything), namely in the organization of a system for the integrated solution of reconnaissance tasks, information processing, ground support, coordination and communication between spacecraft and coordination with the GSP channels, and prompt delivery to the consumer. The Americans have achieved a comprehensive solution to the tasks of space reconnaissance. We have nothing of the kind, since there are only a few Russian satellites, and they do not always work stably, because the main problem here is the lack of its own radio-electronic element base in Russia. The Americans have imposed a ban on the supply to the Russian Federation of both spacecraft, which use the American element base, and American radio-technical elements. Italy and France are twisting their hands, only your IAI is holding on, referring to "old and already paid contracts." It is very difficult and very costly to set up our own production, in addition, it will not be possible to solve this problem quickly, although the work is in full swing, especially now after the "kick" of the sanctions ...
                3. And Us Rat
                  22 September 2014 23: 34
                  +2
                  Quote: padonok.71
                  Oh yes, you have the very best drones.

                  As well as medetsine, programming, nanotechnology, agriculture, pharmaceuticals, microelectronics, jewelry, tanks and spies. tongue

                  So do not wake up famously, otherwise tomorrow we may have one orbital grouping and a GP system more. bully
                  1. Stypor23
                    Stypor23 22 September 2014 23: 41
                    +1
                    Quote: And Us Rat
                    So don’t wake up famously,

                    Pay attention to Roman, scary, for the Arabs apparently holds us. what
                    1. And Us Rat
                      23 September 2014 00: 11
                      +1
                      Quote: Stypor23
                      Quote: And Us Rat
                      So don’t wake up famously,

                      Pay attention to Roman, scary, for the Arabs apparently holds us. what

                      No, I’m just answering him in his own style, I simply jiving. bully
                      And then the comrade suffered, great power incontinence arrogance. laughing
                4. Professor
                  Professor 23 September 2014 09: 01
                  0
                  Quote: padonok.71
                  What about your orbital constellation? With your global positioning system? Oh yes, you have the very best drones.

                  Dear, we’ll talk when your life span reaches at least Indonesia. Have you agreed? wink
              2. padded jacket
                padded jacket 22 September 2014 22: 11
                +2
                Of course, I understand that you’re a very young man, poorly read, and you don’t know, for example, about such an auto giant as a VAZ smile
          2. Stypor23
            Stypor23 23 September 2014 00: 03
            0
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Here in Russia since GAZ, foreigners build car factories and nothing

            Too shy to ask, and Kama Automobile Plant, which of the foreigners built for the Union?
            1. Death Nik1
              Death Nik1 23 September 2014 00: 09
              +3
              Quote: Stypor23
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              Here in Russia since GAZ, foreigners build car factories and nothing

              Too shy to ask, and Kama Automobile Plant, which of the foreigners built for the Union?


              Immovable iron - domestic, movable - foreign.

              Renault (France) - engine plant project; Liebherr (Stuttgart, Germany) - production of gearboxes.
              1. Stypor23
                Stypor23 23 September 2014 00: 43
                0
                Almost the entire Israeli military observation group noted on this topic. fellow.Fine. Just like in the good old days.
                Quote: Smert Nik1
                Immovable iron - domestic, movable - foreign. Renault (France) - engine plant project; Liebherr (Stuttgart, Germany) - production of gearboxes.

                Nothing at all. I will not look for anything, lay out a reference if there is one.
                1. Death Nik1
                  Death Nik1 23 September 2014 00: 53
                  +1
                  Quote: Stypor23
                  Nothing at all. I won’t look for anything, lay out a reference if there is


                  That is, you don’t believe a word to the Jews? :)

                  https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%90%D0%97
                2. Death Nik1
                  Death Nik1 23 September 2014 01: 02
                  +2
                  Quote: Stypor23
                  Almost the entire Israeli military observation group noted on this topic. .Fine. Just like in the good old days.


                  Now you understand how our people behave in a war? :)
                  1. Stypor23
                    Stypor23 23 September 2014 01: 06
                    0
                    Quote: Smert Nik1
                    Now you understand how our people behave in a war? :)

                    Yes, I already knew.
                    Quote: Smert Nik1
                    That is, you don’t believe a word to the Jews? :)

                    With rare exceptions, I believe.
                    1. Death Nik1
                      Death Nik1 23 September 2014 01: 13
                      +3
                      Quote: Stypor23
                      With rare exceptions, I believe.


                      In vain, you are too gullible. It is necessary to be more careful with the Jews, otherwise it will only remain, like Vatniku, about the vicious Zionism of the Gundos.

                      P.S. Looked at the link? I added it a bit later in the previous post.
                      1. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 01: 18
                        0
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        In vain, you are too gullible. It is necessary to be more careful with the Jews, otherwise it will only remain, like Vatniku, about the vicious Zionism of the Gundos.

                        Yes, right now I see how attacking in orderly rows.
                        So why then behave like that, and then shout to the whole world about the Jews being destroyed throughout their history? It’s their own fault.
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        Looked at the link?

                        Yes, right before your eyes. It’s like you edited the chapter where foreigners build Kamaz.
                      2. Death Nik1
                        Death Nik1 23 September 2014 01: 43
                        +1
                        Quote: Stypor23


                        Yes, right now I see how attacking in orderly rows.
                        So why then behave like that?


                        That is, Jews should not be consolidated together and have a common position on certain issues?

                        Quote: Stypor23

                        and then scream to the whole world that Jews are destroying their entire history? It’s their own fault.


                        That is, if the Jews are not consolidated, then they will not be destroyed? And if they are separated, will the good Vatnik and others like them feel sorry for the poor Jew and will not destroy him? Iron logic.
                      3. Death Nik1
                        Death Nik1 23 September 2014 01: 44
                        +1
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        Yes, right before your eyes. It’s like you edited the chapter where foreigners build Kamaz.


                        Naturally. KAMAZ and some kind of company with shtudgard - this is my hobby.
                        Exceptionally, what would you annoy do now the abstract work and sat for two hours with Wikipedia, editing its articles. Well, I have nothing more to do, I have no other problems, it only remains that on Wikipedia, for the sake of my anonymous Russian opponent, write articles.
                      4. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 01: 56
                        +1
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        That is, Jews cannot be consolidated together and have a common position on certain issues? That is, if Jews are not consolidated, then they will not be destroyed? And if they are separated, will the good Vatnik and others like them feel sorry for the poor Jew and will not destroy him? Iron logic.

                        What kind of consolidation is interesting, which then leads to hatred from other peoples. What did the Arabs do before 1948 and after that they want to get rid of you? laughingIn a public place, such nonsense do not say laugh.
                      5. Death Nik1
                        Death Nik1 23 September 2014 02: 02
                        +1
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        What kind of consolidation is interesting, which then leads to hatred from other nations


                        You don’t see the log in the eye, comrade. I dare to remind you that some peoples also do not like the Russians a bit. This applies a little to some non-Russian peoples in Russia itself, on its borders and even quite far from its borders. And this nomenclature of some peoples, to put it mildly, is very extensive.
                        And any nation needs consolidation. And if someone does not like this, then Comrade Chekhov correctly pointed out the direction to such people: "All to the garden."
    2. equity
      equity 23 September 2014 04: 02
      +2
      quilted jacket (1) quote: "I have no doubt - you know how to invent smile
      Just recently I posted an article about the Israelites claiming the authorship of the pyramid erection in Egypt laughing "

      Well so)) it is completely possible that they built pyramids but as slaves of course))!
  18. DmitryAndreenko
    DmitryAndreenko 22 September 2014 17: 42
    +3
    Quote: quilted jacket
    I have no doubt - you know how to invent smile
    Just recently laid out, an article stating that the Israelis ascribe authorship to themselves, in the construction of the pyramids in Egypt laughing

    Even, If they ascribe, then there is evidence !!! I tend to believe my own more than foreigners :)))
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 22 September 2014 18: 36
      -1
      Naturally -Pyramids you built laughing
      And the sun you litWITHOUT A DOUBT laughing
      1. DmitryAndreenko
        DmitryAndreenko 22 September 2014 18: 53
        +4
        Well, so admire and bask in your health :)
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 22 September 2014 18: 59
          +3
          Good good smile all-all-all-all-yo-yo you did. I admit, just do not run amok laughing
  19. padonok.71
    padonok.71 22 September 2014 19: 42
    -2
    Yeah, I read and wonder how much ... about you climbed. How much aplomb, how much snobbery, what a sense of self-superiority. But explain to me, on the basis of what? Is the history of your state thousands of years old? Is it the largest on the planet? Have you won the most terrible war in the history of mankind? Are you the first to go into space? Do your enemies swear from your word alone? Your aircraft, walking, without straining can smudge a country like Georgia? Or decades to control the whole region, while suffering the most minimal losses? Is the weapon of your production armed with the floor of the world? The other half blows your leader in the ass? No? Then what the hell? Dig into your sandbox. And do not teach adult uncles to do their adult business.
    PS: the only normal / adequate Jew here is Voyaka, always on business, justifiably, without Great Jewish jumps. My respect.
    1. slavbag
      slavbag 22 September 2014 21: 10
      +2
      We just cannot do all this. We do not want some to be an empire. We would like Putin and his team to stop giving weapons to terrorists and protecting them. And that’s all.
    2. slavbag
      slavbag 22 September 2014 21: 13
      0
      And one more thing. In terms of percentages, we did more than give the world scientists scientists, professors, acting ministers, and further down the list.
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 22 September 2014 22: 07
        +3
        The only question was whether they were professional professors, doctors, actors, etc.? Or just opportunists and people who did not want to work.
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 22 September 2014 22: 37
          +3
          Quote: quilted jacket
          The only question was whether they were professional professors, doctors, actors, etc.? Or just opportunists and people who did not want to work.

          This is to their colleagues.
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 22 September 2014 22: 45
            0
            That is, the answer is covered in darkness smile
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 22 September 2014 22: 54
              +2
              Quote: quilted jacket
              That is, the answer is covered in darkness smile

              Well to the Nobel Committee.
              1. padded jacket
                padded jacket 22 September 2014 22: 57
                +4
                It is clear that it is mainly careerists and opportunists.
              2. Ascetic
                Ascetic 23 September 2014 10: 09
                +2
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                Well to the Nobel Committee.


                There, it is just not so simple, in this committee, too, completely "the daughters of officers" sit laughing
    3. And Us Rat
      22 September 2014 22: 03
      +4
      Quote: padonok.71
      Is the history of your state thousands of years old?

      Slightly more than 3000, to be precise, when we were processing bronze and creating a full-fledged state with legislation and a regular army, disparate pre-feudal tribes lived in dugouts in "Eastern Europe".

      Quote: padonok.71
      Is it the largest on the planet?

      No, one of the smallest, although in a number of parameters it has long overtaken the "largest", it SHOULD be a shame!

      Quote: padonok.71
      Have you won the most terrible war in the history of mankind?

      We have won a number of the most "notoriously losing" wars in the history of mankind, with "abnormal" results, according to some analysts. And in WWII, our grandfathers fought no less than yours!

      Quote: padonok.71
      Are you the first to go into space?

      No, but we invented a number of technologies, thanks to which YOU continue to go out into space, and the technological level and miniaturization of space technologies ... continue to shyly look away.

      Quote: padonok.71
      Do your enemies swear from your word alone?

      The funny thing is that yes, and more than from yours, we are not throwing words into the wind.

      Quote: padonok.71
      Your aircraft, walking, without straining can smudge a country like Georgia?

      And even such as Poland, Greece or Spain, for clarity - it is WITHOUT the use of nuclear weapons.

      Quote: padonok.71
      Or decades to control the whole region, while suffering the most minimal losses?

      To control no, but to keep in a black body - OH YES !!!

      Quote: padonok.71
      Is the weapon of your production armed with the floor of the world?

      Third.

      Quote: padonok.71
      The other half blows your leader in the ass?

      Two out of three today. Orlan is dancing, the Dragon is flirting, and Mishka is sleeping as always.

      Quote: padonok.71
      Then what the hell? Dig into your sandbox.

      With pleasure, then do not stick your nose IN OUR sandbox, and we have a large sandbox.

      Quote: padonok.71
      without great Jewish jumps.

      Our "great-Jewish" overtures cast a shadow on your "great-power" HURRY?
      1. Stypor23
        Stypor23 22 September 2014 23: 12
        0
        Quote: And Us Rat
        Orlan is dancing, the Dragon is flirting, and Mishka is sleeping as always.

        laughing what crying . THERE DO NOT ONLY TALK WHAT YOU HAVE CONSIDERED.
        1. And Us Rat
          22 September 2014 23: 21
          -1
          Quote: Stypor23
          Quote: And Us Rat
          Orlan is dancing, the Dragon is flirting, and Mishka is sleeping as always.

          laughing what crying . THERE DO NOT ONLY TALK WHAT YOU HAVE CONSIDERED.

          We do not shy of fine literature, sir. hi

          bully
    4. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 22 September 2014 22: 32
      +4
      And what did you find aplomb and snobbery among the Israeli members of the forum? And then we must be able to distinguish between self-esteem and superiority. You somehow confuse these concepts. The history of our people is really thousands of years old. And the state was completely destroyed during the anti-Roman uprising of Bar Kokhba, which did not discourage the Jews from rebuilding it. Our state is one of the smallest on the planet, but does size affect the standard of living of its citizens, medical care and life expectancy? The USSR was the first to enter space. Our enemies still take our words very seriously. To spread the Georgian armed forces? This is an achievement. Especially when comparing the Russian Air Force and Georgia. IDF in 1982 year in slightly more difficult conditions smeared the Syrian armed forces. I don’t know the region, and half of Lebanon with minimal losses of 18 years was controlled. We have no leaders. And the premieres only in my memory for 24 of the year are already nine pieces we have remembered. Because our prime minister is not a master, but a servant. As for the casserole, we are not against it. We have enough of our own problems.
    5. Stypor23
      Stypor23 22 September 2014 23: 35
      0
      Quote: padonok.71
      adequate Jew here is a warrior

      Aha soldier . A fan of lying on the road and watching non-flying rockets. bullyThey are almost all interesting when sober laughing.
  20. DAGESTAN333
    DAGESTAN333 22 September 2014 20: 54
    +3
    Jews, the whole story has been cruel inadequacies in their retribution. Since Jews cannot be taken and expelled from the planet, Stalin committed a very wise act, allowing Israel to be created. But the Arabs were too stupid, and did not appreciate the action of Stalin. That's what the Arabs would lose if, instead of show-offs and bloodshed, they would trade with Israel within the borders of 1948 ..? In place of the Arabs, stupid amateurs, six of Israel's losers, I would be silent like a rag! And they are like cowards, from afar they shoot home-made rockets that do not hit anywhere.
  21. slavbag
    slavbag 22 September 2014 21: 15
    +3
    Applause rolling in Aviation.
  22. padonok.71
    padonok.71 22 September 2014 23: 13
    -5
    The dispute smoothly turns into the category "but I have more pipirka" and "du.rak himself", not for me. I am leaving the battle. I urge all Russians (Russians) to do the same. Have self-esteem and just ignore these balabols. Let each other fry brains and sing hosannas.

    I have the honor!
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 22 September 2014 23: 23
      +5
      Quote: padonok.71
      The dispute smoothly turns into the category "but I have more pipirka" and "du.rak himself", not for me. I am leaving the battle. I urge all Russians (Russians) to do the same. Have self-esteem and just ignore these balabols. Let each other fry brains and sing hosannas.
      as the youth here says: "The drain is counted." hi

      I have the honor!

      Or think you have.
    2. slavbag
      slavbag 22 September 2014 23: 47
      +3
      I understand that you mean paid Fufachik ?!
    3. slavbag
      slavbag 23 September 2014 00: 00
      +2
      But what the Germans think about you and not what Putin says.

      Policy memo from the German Foreign Ministry on Russia: "In almost every respect an authoritarian state"
      According to Der Spiegel, the German Foreign Ministry prepared an analytical note in which it painted "a grim picture of the political situation in Russia."

      The publication quotes from this document. In particular, it says that "the State Duma is dancing to Putin's tune, the judiciary makes decisions convenient for the Kremlin," and the country as a whole "under President Putin has turned into an authoritarian state in almost all respects."

      The middle class and elite, according to the authors of the document, are mostly not against this state of affairs, since they "receive economic benefits from the existing system and are dependent on it." Corruption, according to the German Foreign Ministry, is "part of the system, and they fight it only selectively."

      Source: Der Spiegel
      1. Stypor23
        Stypor23 23 September 2014 00: 10
        -1
        Oh, glory11 gave information calculation. Free of charge things are. We live as we can, shitty of course, and we want better. And the Jews are trying to find mercantile interest in everything.
        1. And Us Rat
          23 September 2014 00: 16
          +1
          Quote: Stypor23
          Free of charge things are. We live as we can, shitty of course and I want better.

          Every man piz .. the smith of his own happiness. request

          Quote: Stypor23
          And the Jews are trying to find mercantile interest in everything.

          Tell us about the superiority of "light ideals" over "mortal metal" to the starving children of Africa. tongue
          1. Stypor23
            Stypor23 23 September 2014 00: 22
            +1
            Quote: And Us Rat
            Everyone piz .. smith of his own happiness.

            And what exactly are Russian CITIZENS bad blacksmiths?
            Quote: And Us Rat
            Tell us about the superiority of "light ideals" over "mortal metal" to the starving children of Africa.

            But this does not bother me at all. And I wanted to do something with their problems, right at home, not everything is in order.
            1. And Us Rat
              23 September 2014 08: 01
              0
              Quote: Stypor23
              And what exactly are Russian CITIZENS bad blacksmiths?

              And how much do I know ?! belay
              This is your statement:
              Quote: Stypor23
              We live as we can, shitty of course and I want better.

              request
      2. builder
        builder 23 September 2014 00: 22
        +1
        Quote: slavbag
        Source: Der Spiegel

        Now I don’t even know how to live on, because the Germans (or Spiegel? Or the German Foreign Ministry?) Say such horrors about us !!!! Wei, Orthodox !!!!
        1. builder
          builder 23 September 2014 00: 27
          0
          http://samsonblinded.org/newsru/israel_europe_germany
          "The German Foreign Ministry loves Jews even less than the Nazis"
          1. builder
            builder 23 September 2014 02: 01
            0
            I brought the same left link. What the Iranian Foreign Ministry thinks and not Shimon Peres says about you
    4. slavbag
      slavbag 23 September 2014 00: 04
      +1
      Do you yourself disgusted to live in such a *?

      For example, Belarus, which has already benefited from counter-sanctions imposed by the Kremlin on Western foodstuffs: in one month, Norwegian salmon supplies to Minsk tripled, while in some stores in Moscow Parmigiano Reggiano with the Belarus label appeared.


      SELF-DECEPTION
      1. Stypor23
        Stypor23 23 September 2014 00: 16
        +1
        Quote: slavbag
        Do you yourself disgusted to live in such a *?

        It is disgusting that all the good is exported. I would have to go to the country of crap. There are so many foreign freeloaders on my shoulders, and for some reason our conscience should wake up.
        1. And Us Rat
          23 September 2014 00: 18
          +1
          Quote: Stypor23
          So many foreign freeloaders are sitting on their shoulders ...

          For example? what
          1. Stypor23
            Stypor23 23 September 2014 00: 30
            +6
            Yes, at least, these And Central Asian republics .. Cuba is another case, although the largest debtor.
            1. tilix
              tilix 23 September 2014 00: 39
              +2
              Good evening.
              mercantile say?
              There are many comrades here for some reason want to teach us how to live.
              They are very preoccupied with how much Palees is crushed,
              And what is "" typical when you have this http://uglich-jj.livejournal.com/62312.html
              Maybe it’s better to turn on yourself?
              1. Stypor23
                Stypor23 23 September 2014 00: 54
                0
                Quote: tilix
                Good evening.

                Aaaaaaaaaa Alexander. Good night.
                Quote: tilix
                There are a lot of comrades here for some reason want to teach us how to live. They are very concerned about how much Pales is crushed,

                I finally do not care about them. I would also not want to do nifiga, and that I would have an import state at its own expense.
                Quote: tilix
                And what is "" typical when you have such

                Well, now show you which
                Quote: tilix
                Maybe it’s better to turn on yourself?

                Or maybe it’s better to fulfill the role of the Vikings and show how civilized people equip the country.
                1. tilix
                  tilix 23 September 2014 01: 03
                  +3
                  Our hospitals are crammed with sick people from Russia, ask them.
                  And where did you see that I ask for the role of a mentor?
                  I just got the lordly-condescending tone of some of your compatriots who do not see the logs in their eyes.
                  Arrange everything yourself, adults and fully-fledged people, and I personally do not care where YOU the curve leads there.
                  1. Stypor23
                    Stypor23 23 September 2014 01: 13
                    0
                    Quote: tilix
                    I just got the lordly-condescending tone of some of your compatriots who do not see the logs in their eyes.

                    There’s such a moment, I don’t argue. So you, too, are somewhat overconfident. I understand that 1973 taught a lot. But still pride will not bring to good.
                    1. tilix
                      tilix 23 September 2014 01: 17
                      +2
                      But still pride will not bring to good.

                      Golden words, and correctly spoken.
                      We really need to keep such a pennant,
                      but the main thing is that the skill is not drunk.
              2. builder
                builder 23 September 2014 01: 00
                0
                Photos for 2012 (Remind the photos of Sochi before the Olympics)
                1. tilix
                  tilix 23 September 2014 01: 10
                  +2
                  I read Comments, and got the impression that a lot has not changed, correct me if I'm wrong.
              3. builder
                builder 23 September 2014 01: 10
                0
                Here for the sake of sports interest simply:
                1. builder
                  builder 23 September 2014 01: 17
                  +1
                  http://ast-news.ru/node/10311
                  Everything is changing, but I wonder why you found pictures of shocks, hell knows how long ago, and you do not see the changes that are happening in Russia point-blank
                  1. builder
                    builder 23 September 2014 01: 21
                    +1
                    I ran around Astrakhan on a vskidka
                    1. Stypor23
                      Stypor23 23 September 2014 01: 24
                      0
                      Quote: stroitel
                      I ran around Astrakhan on a vskidka

                      And I’m just proud of their fact that they are all nishtyak, and we, like Neanderthals, remained in the cave in animal skins. A sense of superiority is simply oversaturated.
                      1. tilix
                        tilix 23 September 2014 01: 30
                        +3
                        Why such extremes?
                        Is everything like that for you?
                        If the superiority is a little better, but the Neanderthals are a little worse?
                      2. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 01: 36
                        0
                        Quote: tilix
                        If the superiority is a little better, but the Neanderthals are a little worse?

                        Considering how you, our former compatriots, are laying out all our negative moments, I personally have thoughts that you are prohibitively happy that you escaped from the Russian mess. And now you poke my worldly goods into our pain points.
                      3. tilix
                        tilix 23 September 2014 01: 42
                        +3
                        Yes, I did not want to offend you. I showed a log in the eye which your compatriots do not want to see point blank.
                        What a pity that a log hurts, not to the people to whom it is addressed.
                      4. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 01: 47
                        0
                        You made a wrong conclusion, I’ve been a pessimistic realist all my life. And in some moments I agree with you.
                  2. tilix
                    tilix 23 September 2014 01: 25
                    +3
                    Dear, I have a friend, a surgeon in a Moscow clinic, and I know firsthand what, how and where.
                    But I also know that Moscow is not Russia, and a good office in Astrakhan does not make the weather even in the Astrakhan region.
                    I sincerely wish you to equip all hospitals, children's shelters, and TD.
                    1. builder
                      builder 23 September 2014 01: 28
                      0
                      I dropped the link for you, but it's more pleasant for you to look at another
                      1. builder
                        builder 23 September 2014 01: 31
                        0
                        Quote: tilix
                        I sincerely wish you to equip all hospitals, children's shelters, and TD.

                        We will try hi
                      2. tilix
                        tilix 23 September 2014 01: 33
                        +2
                        I watch both.
                  3. dzau
                    dzau 9 October 2014 17: 22
                    0
                    Quote: stroitel
                    I’m wondering why you found pictures of the shocks. Horseradish knows how long ago, and you do not see the changes that are taking place in Russia.
                    You should, my dear, go somewhere in Magadan. Here is progress, so progress after the establishment of "democracy" and getting rid of the "accursed scoop."

                    And don't get too excited about alien cabinets in medical institutions. In 99.9% of all this is not about us: with the provision of equipment (as well as specialists), even in compact and relatively "civilized" regions such as Kuzbass, we are very, very sad.

                    And not at all due to lack of funds, as you might think. And because of the excess of stupidity, greed and indifference to their own population, which have become the norm of behavior for those on whom the solution of these problems directly depends.

                    And they sit there for decades, whole clans.

                    There are no complex solutions similar to the "five-year plans" of the State Planning Commission and other Soviet programs. Only Potemkin point passages.

                    It seems to be the construction of an ultramodern chicken coop in the wilderness of a cockroach - with a loud cutting of the ribbon - and quiet, subsequently, its closure or vegetation: due to unfavorable system factors unaccounted for by ** bats.

                    Again, all "alien" medical equipment (almost all) is either wildly outdated or insanely expensive: for they have forgotten how to produce themselves.

                    You should be proud when the country starts producing everything by itself: then it will be possible to post photos from all kinds of oncol. and cardiol. centers on all sorts of "doneunas", ending with an excess of patriotism.

                    And now it's all bullshit, bullshit inflated and bullshit driven.

                    The reality is this: if something happened, my, your, uncle's mother-wife-sister would simply be sent home "to live out." And they will not be cured in a shiny ward. Believe me ...
            2. Death Nik1
              Death Nik1 23 September 2014 00: 48
              +3
              Quote: Stypor23
              Yes, at least, these And Central Asian republics .. Cuba is another case, although the largest debtor.

              Most invested in palaces (not counting the ally of Cuba). It is clear that Vatnik is so torn. After all, the palaces were set for 16 lardy buns of the Izhevsk (and not only) plant, and the efficiency is minus one. It’s a pity to Vatnik that the folk buns have disappeared like water in the sand. In general, if you look at how many attendants have been transferred to Egypt, Syria and the palaces, you get an unimaginable figure. Well this is how it is necessary to hate the Jews, so that such grandmothers from their children to tear off if only to annoy the Jews.
              1. Stypor23
                Stypor23 23 September 2014 01: 30
                +2
                Quote: Smert Nik1
                In general, if you look at how many attendants have been transferred to Egypt, Syria and the palaces, you get an unimaginable figure.

                Actually, if you look at how many grandmothers Abramovich, Berezovsky, and Blacks brought out of Russia, we get an unimaginable figure.
                1. tilix
                  tilix 23 September 2014 01: 35
                  +2
                  What are you saying? And for whom, say, Abramovich, did those grandmas take out? to whom did he buy a yacht?
                  1. Stypor23
                    Stypor23 23 September 2014 01: 38
                    +1
                    Quote: tilix
                    And for whom, say, Abramovich, did those grandmas take out? to whom did he buy a yacht?

                    For myself, naturally. But something, I think, and the EGI fell over.
                    1. tilix
                      tilix 23 September 2014 01: 55
                      +1
                      There, in my opinion, many fell over.
                      1. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 02: 07
                        +1
                        Quote: tilix
                        There, in my opinion, many fell over.

                        Duck, I say that Israel also got some money from oligarchs from the largest country in the country.
                      2. tilix
                        tilix 23 September 2014 02: 11
                        +3
                        Israel as a country does not exist, and all sorts of individuals (where is my share?) May well have made money. So what is it? Someone broke the law? Tudy him to Zindana.
                      3. builder
                        builder 23 September 2014 02: 15
                        0
                        Quote: tilix
                        Tudy him to Zindana.

                        I'm talking about too (no need to click with a beak)
                      4. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 02: 24
                        -1
                        How interesting. Your Jewish officials are throwing a Jewish country for money, so what?
                      5. tilix
                        tilix 23 September 2014 02: 28
                        +1
                        I do not understand where
                        Your Jewish officials are throwing money into a Jewish country, so what?
                      6. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 02: 31
                        0
                        Quote: tilix
                        I do not understand where
                        Your Jewish officials are throwing money into a Jewish country, so what?



                        Israel as a country does not exist, and all sorts of individuals (where is my share?) May well have made money.
                      7. tilix
                        tilix 23 September 2014 02: 37
                        +2
                        So what? Do you have information that these people transferred money to the treasury of the state of Israel?
                        And what, to whom, they transferred privately and did not break the law, then their business.
                      8. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 03: 20
                        -1
                        I assumed, not argued. How is Israel able to maintain a high standard of living at high defense costs?
                      9. tilix
                        tilix 23 September 2014 03: 26
                        +4
                        Our budget can be found on the Internet.
                        How is Israel able to maintain a high life level at a high defense cost?

                        At the expense of taxes. And there are still some firms that skillfully reduce taxes. But even our hands will reach them.
                      10. Death Nik1
                        Death Nik1 23 September 2014 02: 13
                        +4
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        Duck, I say that Israel also got some money from oligarchs from the largest country in the country


                        And why did you all vote for Putin, who holds this Abramovich and others? And it’s not sickly, 146% are not jokes. Or tell Putin that Israel is to blame for the victory? Why didn’t they vote for the communists?
                      11. builder
                        builder 23 September 2014 02: 22
                        +1
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        who holds this Abramovich and others?

                        For more details, if possible. Nobody holds Abramovich. Which others? They voted for Putin because he threw Abramovich, Berezovsky, Khadarkovsky and other Gusinsky out of politics and the country and he didn’t throw out whom he didn’t throw out. You are a little confused with the Yeltsin era.
                      12. Death Nik1
                        Death Nik1 23 September 2014 02: 27
                        +1
                        Quote: stroitel
                        For more details, if possible. Nobody holds Abramovich. Which others? They voted for Putin because he threw Abramovich, Berezovsky, Khadarkovsky and other Gusinsky out of politics and the country and he didn’t throw out whom he didn’t throw out. You are a little confused with the Yeltsin era.


                        Maybe confused. I haven’t been in Russia for many years and I follow the news irregularly. As far as I understand now, there are no Jewish oligarchs left in Russia?
                      13. builder
                        builder 23 September 2014 02: 33
                        +1
                        I do not know. (The oligarchs are members of the oligarchy; they can either be members of the government themselves, or have a decisive influence on its formation and decision-making in their personal and group interests. ) Maybe they stayed, only they so clearly do not go into politics. For this I do not know.
                      14. Death Nik1
                        Death Nik1 23 September 2014 02: 38
                        0
                        Quote: stroitel
                        I do not know. (The oligarchs, members of the oligarchy, can either be members of the government themselves, or have a decisive influence on its formation and decision-making in their personal and group interests.) Maybe they stayed, only they don’t get into politics so clearly. On this and do not know


                        That is, now we can say that finally the power is in the hands of the Russian people?
                      15. builder
                        builder 23 September 2014 02: 42
                        +1
                        Tell me a country in which power is in the hands of the people. It is a myth. The power in the country is in the hands of the ruling elites, and the people tolerate it or not.
                      16. Death Nik1
                        Death Nik1 23 September 2014 02: 47
                        +1
                        Quote: stroitel
                        Tell me a country in which power is in the hands of the people. It is a myth. The power in the country is in the hands of the ruling elites, and the people tolerate it or not


                        Well, then the Jews?
                      17. tilix
                        tilix 23 September 2014 02: 50
                        +4
                        For all the Jews there is a judge.
                        For liveliness. For the mind. For stoop.
                        For the fact that the Jew shot at the leader.
                        For the fact that she missed.

                        Igor Guberman
                      18. builder
                        builder 23 September 2014 02: 56
                        +1
                        Good poems.
                        Quote: tilix
                        Well, then the Jews?

                        Nothing at all. Where I wrote that with. I do not divide people on a national basis. I’m a Jew or a Yakut. There are good citizens of their country, but there are bad ones - everything else (nationality, religion, etc.) is secondary to me
                      19. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 02: 22
                        0
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        And why did you all vote for Putin, who holds this Abramovich and others? And it’s not sickly, 146% are not jokes.

                        I did not vote for him. And how is this 146%?
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        Or tell Putin that Israel is to blame for the victory?

                        It is possible. This is democracy in you, but in Russia I somehow did not meet it.
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        Why didn’t they vote for the communists?

                        Duck no them
                      20. Death Nik1
                        Death Nik1 23 September 2014 02: 31
                        +1
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        I did not vote for him.

                        So what? I am responsible for all the Jews and other Jews are responsible for all of you, and for the Zionists, and for the Communist Jews and for the religious. So you will be kind enough to answer for all Russians.


                        Quote: Stypor23

                        And how is that 146%?


                        And you do not know that in some regions of Russia Putin counted as much as 146%? In my opinion this is a very famous fact.
                      21. builder
                        builder 23 September 2014 02: 38
                        +1
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        Already 146% counted Putin? In my opinion this is a very famous fact.

                        ?????????? Again you suffered. Repeated lies repeatedly do not become a fact.
                      22. Death Nik1
                        Death Nik1 23 September 2014 02: 42
                        +2
                        Quote: stroitel
                        ?????????? Again you suffered. Repeated lies repeatedly do not become a fact.


                        Listen: are Putin's choices legitimate?
                        If so, why very often in conversations with the Russians, I hear reproaches that the Jews are at the helm of power in Russia? You yourself voted for this power?
                      23. builder
                        builder 23 September 2014 02: 50
                        -1
                        Dear,
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        why very often in conversations with the Russians, I hear reproaches that the Jews
                        who do you communicate with - with RNU members? I live in Russia, I heard such statements from individual marginals, but I will not say that this point of view is widespread in Russian society.
                      24. Death Nik1
                        Death Nik1 23 September 2014 02: 54
                        +1
                        Quote: stroitel
                        who do you communicate with - with RNU members? I live in Russia, I heard such statements from individual marginals, but I will not say that this point of view is widespread in Russian society.


                        I don’t know, on this forum I meet her regularly. In any case, in your opinion, is the power in Russia now in Russian hands?
                      25. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 02: 42
                        0
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        So what? I am responsible for all the Jews and other Jews are responsible for all of you, and for the Zionists, and for the Communist Jews and for the religious. So you will be kind enough to answer for all Russians.

                        Well and then .You can keep at least a style for all Jews of the world. I will speak only for myself.
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        And you do not know that in some regions of Russia Putin counted as much as 146%? In my opinion this is a very famous fact.

                        Not in the know, I did not go into details.
                      26. Death Nik1
                        Death Nik1 23 September 2014 02: 35
                        +1
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        It is possible. This is democracy in you, but in Russia I somehow did not meet it.


                        I somehow do not understand your thoughts. what do you want Israel to build democracy in Russia for you?
                      27. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 02: 39
                        -1
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        It is possible. This is democracy in you, but in Russia I somehow did not meet it.

                        I somehow do not understand your thoughts. what do you want Israel to build democracy in Russia for you?

                        You will build, how come. Drive them into Kabbalah.
                      28. Death Nik1
                        Death Nik1 23 September 2014 02: 44
                        +2
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        You will build, how come.


                        Kabbalah is unlikely. Judaism is not a missionary religion. But in bondage - please. Sign the mortgage - and here you have the bondage ready.
                        But in general, I am not able to understand the connection between Israel and the lack of democracy in Russia?
                      29. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 02: 48
                        +1
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        But in general, I am not able to understand the connection between Israel and the lack of democracy in Russia?

                        Yes, and do not hammer your head.
                      30. Death Nik1
                        Death Nik1 23 September 2014 02: 57
                        +1
                        OK, please answer. In your opinion, to date, power in Russia belongs to Russians or people of other nationalities?
                      31. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 03: 02
                        +1
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        In your opinion, to date, power in Russia belongs to Russians or people of other nationalities?

                        By the way the state-forming people live, the power is clearly not with the Russophiles
                      32. Death Nik1
                        Death Nik1 23 September 2014 03: 03
                        0
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        By the way the state-forming people live, the power is clearly not with the Russophiles


                        And who?
                      33. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 03: 05
                        0
                        GOGGLED, got it with his questions
                      34. Death Nik1
                        Death Nik1 23 September 2014 03: 09
                        +1
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        GOGGLED, got it with his questions


                        Do you know why you don’t want to answer? You know ... and I know about that. And with this silence of yours, you showed a lot of things. And no google unprofitable here.
                        Come on bye, good night.
                      35. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 03: 10
                        0
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        Do you know why you don’t want to answer? You know ... and I know about that. And by this silence you showed a lot of things

                        Well, share your wise thoughts. And calm at once. Let’s say that I and you know
                      36. tilix
                        tilix 23 September 2014 02: 56
                        +2
                        But it didn’t come in Israel. Check there, at home, to whom the money fell abroad. Surprise.
                      37. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 03: 03
                        0
                        Yes, I have something to be surprised. Unfortunately, not my bank account was replenished
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                2. builder
                  builder 23 September 2014 01: 38
                  +2
                  I don’t understand this either:
                  Quote: Stypor23
                  to see how many grandmothers Abramovich, Berezovsky and blacks were brought out of Russia

                  Who is to blame? Where did Russian Vanka look? Again, the freemasons at #№№bali?
                  1. Stypor23
                    Stypor23 23 September 2014 01: 43
                    0
                    Quote: stroitel
                    Where did Russian Vanka look?

                    So he worked for 3 kopecks, Schaub did not die of hunger, or fought in Chechnya, and maybe drank from grief.
                    1. builder
                      builder 23 September 2014 01: 55
                      +1
                      They started to go to extremes. Not everyone worked for 3 kopecks, etc. (drank with grief - are you all in vain - now comrades from Israel will curse our sick liver drinks )
                      More objectivity and tolerance for each other hi Sincerely
                      1. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 02: 00
                        +1
                        Quote: stroitel
                        -Now comrades from Israel will curse our sick liver

                        Well, well, some comrades from Israel themselves are not fools to bitterly grub.
                      2. Death Nik1
                        Death Nik1 23 September 2014 02: 06
                        +2
                        Quote: stroitel
                        (drank with grief - it's you all in vain - now comrades from Israel will curse our sick liver drinks )

                        Honestly, I already wanted to walk along this fad like a skating rink on asphalt. Then I think about why people spoil their mood at night, and erased it to Benin’s mother. Necha pour salt.
                3. Death Nik1
                  Death Nik1 23 September 2014 01: 55
                  +1
                  Quote: Stypor23
                  Actually, if you look at how many grandmothers Abramovich, Berezovsky, and Blacks brought out of Russia, we get an unimaginable figure.


                  Further on the plan - Trotsky and other Jewish revolutionaries? Then there will be citations from the Talmud, Zion wise men and the catechism of Soviet Jewry. In general, everything is as always.
                  1. Stypor23
                    Stypor23 23 September 2014 02: 04
                    +1
                    Quote: Smert Nik1
                    Further on the plan - Trotsky and other Jewish revolutionaries? Then there will be citations from the Talmud, the Zionist sages and the catechism of the Soviet Jew. In general, everything is as always.

                    The same song is also with you. Why do you sell weapons to Muslims, distribute the money yourself, and live like homeless people, blame us less, and develop your country, how much we get, and how much you. That's the answer
                    1. tilix
                      tilix 23 September 2014 02: 18
                      +3

                      Why are you selling weapons to Muslims?
                      give out the money yourself
                      but you live like homeless people, blame us less
                      and develop your country,
                      how much do we get
                      and how much are you


                      Perfectly !!! good
                      What kind of music will we sing?
                      1. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 02: 27
                        0
                        Further on the plan - Trotsky and other Jewish revolutionaries? Then there will be citations from the Talmud, Zion wise men and the catechism of Soviet Jewry. On this one for example.
                      2. tilix
                        tilix 23 September 2014 02: 34
                        +1
                        It won’t work, it’s bravura Russian (farewell Slavs for example) and there is a mournfully Jewish one.
                        You just do not be offended, the topic amuses me a little.
                      3. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 02: 46
                        0
                        Quote: tilix
                        It won’t work, it’s bravura Russian (parting Slavs, for example) and there is a mournfully Jewish one. You just don’t be offended, the topic amuses me a little.

                        Do not be discouraged. Imagine that it is hawa nagila.
                        Quote: tilix
                        You just do not be offended, the topic amuses me a little.

                        The detrimental effect of radiation affects.
                      4. tilix
                        tilix 23 September 2014 02: 52
                        +1
                        Oh well,
                        don't judge by yourself again
                        You have radiation, yes. And so far, the sowing bowl has passed us.
                      5. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 02: 59
                        0
                        Quote: tilix
                        You have radiation, yes. And so far, the sowing bowl has passed us.

                        Error. Not with us, but with the neighbors. Who knows what the Arabs have in mind about you.
                      6. tilix
                        tilix 23 September 2014 03: 01
                        +3
                        We know exactly what they have in mind regarding us. As Rabinovich said? Do not wait.
                    2. Death Nik1
                      Death Nik1 23 September 2014 02: 18
                      +1
                      Quote: Stypor23
                      The same song is also with you. Why do you sell weapons to Muslims, distribute the money yourself, and live like homeless people, blame us less, and develop your country, how much we get, and how much you. That's the answer


                      Well, you give, I formulated it more clearly than the "voice of Israel". I suppose you were in charge of political information in the army?
                      1. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 02: 28
                        +2
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        Are you supposed to be in charge of political information in the army?

                        No, the clerk sat at the headquarters.
                      2. Death Nik1
                        Death Nik1 23 September 2014 02: 51
                        +1
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        No, the clerk stayed at headquarters


                        Yes, I also shifted pieces of paper. You are apparently from left to right, and I from right to left.
                      3. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 02: 54
                        -1
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        No, the clerk stayed at headquarters


                        Yes, I also shifted pieces of paper. You are apparently from left to right, and I from right to left.

                        So you can see that you were shifting the pieces of paper. And I was more on the Internet.
                      4. Death Nik1
                        Death Nik1 23 September 2014 02: 59
                        0
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        So you can see that you shifted the pieces of paper. And I was more on the Internet


                        You are absolutely right.
            3. And Us Rat
              23 September 2014 08: 06
              +1
              Quote: Stypor23
              Yes, at least, these And Central Asian republics .. Cuba is another case, although the largest debtor.

              Mugdu the former debtors and today's freeloaders, kagbe big difference.
              Well, they forgave the debt and forgave, learned the lesson - not to give any more, that's all. Now I see no reason to complain about "spilled milk", the past cannot be returned. The most important thing is that at this moment there are no freeloaders ... yes, they seem to be gone.
              1. Stypor23
                Stypor23 23 September 2014 09: 56
                +1
                Quote: And Us Rat
                Quote: Stypor23
                Yes, at least, these And Central Asian republics .. Cuba is another case, although the largest debtor.

                Mugdu the former debtors and today's freeloaders, kagbe big difference.
                Well, they forgave the debt and forgave, learned the lesson - not to give any more, that's all. Now I see no reason to complain about "spilled milk", the past cannot be returned. The most important thing is that at this moment there are no freeloaders ... yes, they seem to be gone.

                I don’t see any difference. I would like for any Finnish help from a foreign state to be possible only after a national referendum and the consent of the population to this step
                1. builder
                  builder 23 September 2014 12: 31
                  +1
                  Quote: Stypor23
                  In general, I would like for any Fin, assistance to a foreign state from our side, to be possible only after a national referendum and the consent of the population to this step

                  This is utopia.
                  1. Stypor23
                    Stypor23 23 September 2014 13: 38
                    0
                    Quote: stroitel
                    Quote: Stypor23
                    In general, I would like for any Fin, assistance to a foreign state from our side, to be possible only after a national referendum and the consent of the population to this step

                    This is utopia.

                    Quote: stroitel
                    Quote: Stypor23
                    In general, I would like for any Fin, assistance to a foreign state from our side, to be possible only after a national referendum and the consent of the population to this step

                    This is utopia.

                    Oh well, no. People’s money, and let us decide the scope of their application
                2. And Us Rat
                  23 September 2014 13: 11
                  +1
                  Quote: Stypor23
                  Kagke does not see the difference ...

                  Ok, explain the difference. (For example, your sn. - 3000 cu)

                  1. - "former debtor"
                  You lent last year to Vasya Pupkin 1000 cu
                  Vasya Pupkin died, you adjust your financial plans and live on those same 3000 USD per month.
                  Situation is over and does not affect for the future.

                  2. - "today's freeloader"
                  A local werewolf in uniform, caught you on an offense and now regularly milks his grandmother, at the same 1000u. per month.
                  You cannot correct anything and are content with the remainder in 2000 cu per month.
                  The situation is NOT completed, and continues to influence for the future.
                  1. Stypor23
                    Stypor23 23 September 2014 13: 36
                    +1
                    That the first, that the second option, they will equally upset me.
                    1. And Us Rat
                      23 September 2014 13: 46
                      +2
                      Quote: Stypor23
                      That the first, that the second option, they will equally upset me.

                      Only your personal grief in the context of these situations does not play a role.
                      I’m talking about facts REALLY affecting the situation, about the bottom line.
                      Because in the end - the economy is built on available assets, and not on anyone else's emotions.
                      request
                      1. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 14: 51
                        +1
                        Quote: And Us Rat
                        Only your personal grief in the context of these situations does not play a role. I’m talking about facts REALLY affecting the situation, the bottom line. Because in the end, the economy is built on available assets, not on anyone’s


                        Yes, and if I and 130 million distressed people go out and go to Moscow to speak plainly with bureaucrats. Maybe then a shift towards the population in a positive direction will happen.
                      2. And Us Rat
                        23 September 2014 16: 34
                        +2
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        And if I and 130 millions of grieved go out and go to Moscow to speak plainly with bureaucrats ...

                        In Syria and Ukraine have already left ... have to continue? request
                      3. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 20: 28
                        +1
                        Quote: And Us Rat
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        And if I and 130 millions of grieved go out and go to Moscow to speak plainly with bureaucrats ...

                        In Syria and Ukraine have already left ... have to continue? request

                        War scenarios were prepared there in advance, and we are not going to destroy Russia. It is too difficult and at a great price the revival of the country is given.
                      4. And Us Rat
                        23 September 2014 22: 26
                        +1
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        War scripts were prepared there in advance ...

                        This is said by political propaganda. request
                        Are you ready to entrust this propaganda with the word prosperity of your country? request
                        You can reinforced concrete guarantee that propaganda does not lie and you do not step on the same rake? request
                      5. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 23 September 2014 22: 50
                        +2
                        Quote: And Us Rat
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        War scripts were prepared there in advance ...

                        This is said by political propaganda. request
                        Are you ready to entrust this propaganda with the word prosperity of your country? request
                        You can reinforced concrete guarantee that propaganda does not lie and you do not step on the same rake? request

                        What a fucking propoganda. If the fight against all Russians in Ukraine began from the collapse of the USSR, I won’t speak for Syria, I don’t know anything for her. I visited ukrov in the early 2000s and on the mainland, and in Crimea it was immediately clear who He wants to go to Europe, and who wants love from Russia. I think that Putin will be blind to liberals, that they must be tough, cruel like Lukash. And we won’t step on the rake if we see that cf. Dancing to the tune of the enemy will lie in the ground or polish the shaft. And do not care that the whole world will condemn Russia for such pressure.
  23. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 22 September 2014 23: 19
    +3
    Quote: quilted jacket
    It is clear that it is mainly careerists and opportunists.

    Justify your message?
    1. And Us Rat
      23 September 2014 13: 48
      0
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      Quote: quilted jacket
      It is clear that it is mainly careerists and opportunists.

      Justify your message?

      But he does not know how! laughing
  24. dzau
    dzau 9 October 2014 17: 02
    +1
    With this turn of events, Israel will not be able to use its nuclear capabilities against the enemy country, since no one can be appointed as a source of unconventional terrorist attack. For this reason, the team invites Israel to develop a practical and effective preventive strike policy.

    Not even a hundred years had passed before it reached the sloupoks.

    That the policy of the "white Sahibs against the Unter-Minor barbarians", against the background of the rapid industrialization of Islamic countries, can catch a response in the form of "Hiroshima" without a return address.

    And the truth is interesting: easily f **** anut. And what will they do in response?

    And that time, in connection with progress, the ever-increasing compactness and accessibility of nuclear technology - closer and closer.
    1. IAlex
      IAlex 14 October 2014 02: 44
      -1
      They will dump them home, as they arrived and leave ...
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  25. IAlex
    IAlex 14 October 2014 02: 43
    -1
    This is Western culture as a centuries-old narcotic idea for replacing all the goys with a kosher shake, and not vice versa.
    And they also found the extreme universal root of evil - the "clash of civilizations", so that later not to suffer with the search for other ways.
    "Israel has no chance of achieving" peaceful coexistence "with the Palestinians" - peace for all countries except the United States cannot afford it, because only its own pocket.
    A cool conclusion about stupid enemies and blah blah blah, interestingly the United States itself was included in this list as the only subject to which all of the above applies.
    In general, why should Israel bother with a preemptive strike, strain 51 staff, and let it dangle with aircraft carriers around the world.
    Anyway, what are these horned ones with a shekel in their head building from themselves, I’m 100% sure that they, like Japan, have atomic weapons, if not their own Amer’s for sure ...

    As I understand it, all the Israelis present here are just Sayanim from Loham a psychologist smile
  26. viruvalge412ee
    viruvalge412ee 27 October 2014 18: 39
    -1
    Synagogues are bluffing! They do not puke, but they bluff, threatening with a nuclear effect (not their own likely).