It’s time to prepare for World War III (Huangqiu Shibao Newspaper, China)

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It’s time to prepare for World War III (Huangqiu Shibao Newspaper, China)


Since the situation in Ukraine is getting worse and worse, many in the world are afraid that a direct armed conflict will arise between Russia and the United States. If this really happens, then it is quite possible that a new world war will begin.

The situation in the modern world is such that this probability should be taken as seriously as possible. The face of war changed in the course of development of human society, and today it has already entered the third stage of development. The first stage is the struggle between nomadic and sedentary peoples, the second is global colonial wars, for example, the First and Second World Wars. We are now entering a new era of world conflict. Their peculiarity lies in the fact that the main place of hostilities will be space, cyberspace and water space. A huge role will be played by technical equipment and the level of development of science. Also, these wars will be distinguished by a huge number of participating countries.

Now rivalry in space and networks are in most cases related to disputes in the water. Great powers attached great importance to him already during the Second World War. Already at the end of the XNUMXth century, the American historian Alfred Mahan put forward the theory of “naval power,” in which serious attention was paid to building up naval power and creating trade fleet and foreign bases. However, all this in the end was only a backdrop for a land war. Now we are fighting directly for control of the sea. Therefore, in areas such as the Arctic Ocean, Pacific and Indian Oceans, there is a fierce struggle for influence. It can be assumed that in the future a world war could erupt because of this.

In the epoch of the Third World War, the next question will become an important issue for building up Chinese military power: how to develop military forces in order to effectively protect state interests? In fact, in the current conditions, in order to protect state interests, China in its military development should focus on world-wide wars. The main reasons are as follows: first, from the very beginning, China has always developed military power in such a way as to defend its interests on land. Since the struggle for water space is becoming increasingly fierce, China needs to change the course of thought and switch to the protection of maritime interests.

Secondly, in the era of the new world war, China is just in the region for which there is a struggle. This again forces him to develop his military power, focusing on world-wide wars. China is surrounded by the Arctic, Pacific and Indian Oceans, and naturally, the development of its sea power makes the rest of the country nervous. Against this background, the PRC must develop its military potential and take the initiative in order not to become a passive participant in the game.

Thirdly, as China expands its interests outside the state, they spread throughout the world. Since the United States is currently placing a strategic focus on the Asia-Pacific region, this directly affects the PRC, and its foreign interests are more and more at risk from America. If China does not have the necessary military power, then there can be no question of protecting foreign interests.

Fourthly, China’s sea and air combat capability, as well as the ability to conduct military operations abroad, are extremely limited today. If, in the context of World War II, the issue of the development of the naval forces is not considered, then the next point — strengthening China’s air forces — will be limited to existing prejudices, and protecting foreign interests will face even greater resistance. This will lead to the fact that in terms of the naval and air capabilities of the PRC will again be on the outskirts of stories. China can not again become a passive participant in the game. He must develop his military potential, focusing on world war, and pay due attention to building up naval power.
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  2. +33
    19 September 2014 08: 08
    China is surrounded !!! Arctic Arctic !!! , Pacific and Indian Oceans ....
    here you have an ally ...
    1. +45
      19 September 2014 08: 10
      Quote: shkiper83
      China is surrounded !!! Arctic Arctic !!! , Pacific and Indian Oceans ....
      here you have an ally ...

      The ally is still one. Against the United States at this stage is suitable, but the ear with China must be kept sharp. First of all, to prevent creeping migration to the Far East.
      1. +4
        19 September 2014 08: 23
        I did not overlook the author. China is also surrounded by the Southern and Atlantic oceans. What really is there. Pull everything on gray laughing In addition to Europeans, no one will fight with us, and even then with sanctions.
        1. +4
          19 September 2014 11: 20
          After the overture ("Cumhuriyet", Turkey)
          Güray Öz
          "***

          This time, the central arena of war is not Europe, but the Middle East, and since it, like a patchwork quilt, consists of many parts, this brings diversity to the ideological dimension of settling bills. The winds of the war only intensified after the Western countries decided not to let the former USSR get carried away by the idea of ​​a new Russian empire. Washington’s ideological readiness for war is presented in the form of a fight against unsustainable Islamist terrorism. “A faraway country” and today - in pursuit of strategies that are designed to strengthen its position. This time, “civilization” is not a “monster with the last tooth” (such a metaphor is used in the text of the national anthem of Turkey in relation to the West - approx. Per.), Because it wages war with those who are trying to gain the upper hand, decapitating people in accordance with absurd ideological beliefs. Such a perception gives legitimacy to the actions of “civilization”, while in the current situation of chaos it is not easy to get to the bottom and separate the grains from the chaff.

          ***

          Anyone who thinks that a boycott and similar intimidation will force Russia to retreat and take a step back are mistaken. It will not hesitate to defend its territories, wealth and strategic advances in Ukraine and the Middle East. This time, it is not armies that are fighting, which, as in the Hitler period, rely on ground forces. If the situation gets worse, it will undoubtedly turn to missiles and the nuclear threat. In the not so distant future, the overture will turn into destruction, and everyone who fights with the help of "jihadist soldiers" driving around in vans from one village to another and hiding their faces under masks will soon realize that they are just minor figures in a major war. " "

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          1. 0
            19 September 2014 18: 04
            Damn it, and Turkey is infected with "Great Han hegemonism"!
            1. +2
              20 September 2014 00: 06
              But he never left her.
        2. +2
          19 September 2014 18: 43
          Quote: siberalt
          I did not overlook the author. China is also surrounded by the Southern and Atlantic oceans. What really is there. Pull everything on gray laughing In addition to Europeans, no one will fight with us, and even then with sanctions.

          What is the Southern Ocean? As far as I remember from school there are only four oceans, and there was no Southern winked
          And where is China and the Arctic Ocean? China is almost farther to it than to the South Pole, Let the skis be turned there, and in the north there is barely enough space for us with pin.dos and "botanists", there still their dwarfs like Norway and Denmark have gaped hawalniks (even if they choked on what am )
          1. +2
            19 September 2014 20: 34
            The so-called Southern Ocean connecting the Atlantic, Indian and Pacific Oceans
    2. +16
      19 September 2014 08: 37
      China, he is China!
      In the modern world, we should not even hope for Belarus with its unpredictable Old Man!
      As always, Russia has only two allies! The emperor's phrase is often used because it is essentially true, I will add to this one more frequently used phrase and the same true phrase: "If you want peace, prepare for war!"
      All the same, no matter what, I want to believe that humanity will change its mind and will focus not on the number of Tugriks in their pockets, but on human life!
      1. +1
        19 September 2014 08: 47
        Eugene! Good afternoon!
        Cool said!
        1. 0
          20 September 2014 19: 07
          I apologize for not immediately responding!
          Thank you!
      2. +3
        19 September 2014 11: 59
        Zyablitsov (1) SU Today, 08: 37 ↑
        "China he is China!"
        ..Not so simple..
        "07:43 19.09.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX
        In Delhi, negotiations were held between the Prime Minister of India, Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping. The leaders of the two countries discussed all aspects of bilateral relations, including the painful topic of the controversial border. 12 agreements were signed on the development of trade and economic ties. Over the next five years, China will invest $ 20 billion in the Indian economy. Both sides believe that the agreements reached ensure the stable development of a strategic partnership between them. Xi supported India joining the Shanghai Cooperation Organization.
        ... The leaders also spoke in favor of closer cooperation between the two countries globally on issues of mutual interest. They are both for "peace and stability in the region, including Afghanistan." Xi Jinping supported India's accession to the Shanghai Cooperation Organization.
        ..http: //www.centrasia.ru/news.php? st = 1411098180
    3. +8
      19 September 2014 11: 06
      I, too, clung to this phrase.
      And also ...
      We were on excursions (in my opinion, in Guilin, but I can be mistaken, I travel a lot around China), and so there, before visiting a huge cave, we saw a map on the whole wall of multi-colored minerals. Map of Eurasia. Different countries are laid out in different colors (stones). They began to look for Russia. We can’t find it in any way.
      Great China is.
      Europe, here it is.
      Then, with difficulty, they found Russia near Europe (to the Urals). The rest is China. Those. all of Siberia is China.
      So the author, in accordance with the party’s general line, believes that China is washed by the Arctic Ocean .....
      1. +1
        19 September 2014 12: 38
        The Anglo-Saxons will not stand up against the Russian soldier in battle, nuclear weapons will bury civilization, so there is only one way left now and the USA is demonstrating! Chaos all over the world.
        1. +1
          19 September 2014 19: 40
          Quote: kod3001
          The Anglo-Saxons will not stand up against the Russian soldier in battle, nuclear weapons will bury civilization, so there is only one way left now and the USA is demonstrating! Chaos all over the world.

          Didn’t you understand that the Anglo-Saxons are not going to fight with us themselves, to send their soldiers, is it not clear across Ukraine ???
          A significant moment was a visit to the United States and his speech in the Senate. She was sealed while standing, but they refused help, they are kept only on promises. Help is participation, and here the guys will break the throat on the Maidan and go hungry for promises.
          1. +1
            20 September 2014 09: 25
            Quote: APASUS
            They sealed him standing

            mmm! ?? belay
            I understand that this is a reservation, but ... in every joke there is доля jokes wassat
      2. 0
        19 September 2014 14: 01
        lex locis SU Today, 11:06 ↑ And another chance ... "A new find of Omsk archaeologists is dated 2000 BC
        September 15, 2014 "
        "... the armor, or armor of the ancient warrior was discovered exactly a year ago during excavations at the Omsk site - on the left bank of the Irtysh, near the Voskhod dispensary"
        http://www.slavyanskaya-kultura.ru/slavic/archaeology/novuyu-nahodku-omskih-arhe
        ologov-datiruyut-2000-godom-do-nashei-yery.html
      3. 0
        19 September 2014 18: 06
        Was India and Pakistan on that mosaic?
    4. 0
      19 September 2014 18: 02
      shake your mustache and Russia, and Japan, and Indochina, and India and Pakistan! On the other hand, indeed, all of this is the "sphere of vital interests" of the Celestial Empire.
    5. +2
      20 September 2014 00: 04
      China is surrounded by the Arctic, Pacific and Indian oceans

      I didn’t understand something - and when did Kital begin to border the Arctic Ocean?
  3. VICTOR-61
    0
    19 September 2014 08: 10
    The mattresses will pester war on Russia, knowing that we will give a fight to the mattresses and we have a strong, bold and ready army, and they rot and only know how to fight on Facebook with words
    1. +8
      19 September 2014 08: 21
      Quote: VICTOR-61
      and only words can fight through facebook



      They still know how to stupidly bomb ... though a great mind is not required for this ...
      1. +4
        19 September 2014 08: 43
        Quote: SS68SS
        They still know how to stupidly bomb .... the truth is not a big mind for this ..

        IN UKRAINE ESPECIALLY noticeable, PI N DOSOVSKY INSTRUCTORS.
      2. +14
        19 September 2014 09: 18
        Quote: SS68SS
        They still know how to stupidly bomb ... though a great mind is not required for this ...

        It is "stupid" to bomb - yes, but they are bombing with precision weapons from over the horizon! And in order to develop such a weapon, you need to have good brains!
        So we have a powerful enemy. And our task is to defeat him, with his WTO! Therefore, "stupidly" is canceled! You need smart, a lot, high quality.
        Otherwise, as the famous movie hero said: "We will not see good luck!" By the way, too, if they attack us. IMHO.
      3. +4
        19 September 2014 11: 16
        Quote: SS68SS
        They still know how to stupidly bomb .... the truth is not a big mind for this ..

        Competently Bombing requires a lot of intelligence. A fresh example of Ukraine was bombed a lot and often, but the militia could not bombard the living force.
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    3. +1
      19 September 2014 08: 36
      And in the Russian Federation - teachings, teachings, teachings !!!
    4. +11
      19 September 2014 08: 52
      The mattresses will pester war on Russia, knowing that we will give a fight to the mattresses and we have a strong, bold and ready army, and they rot and only know how to fight on Facebook with words


      I wouldn’t be engaged in hatred, all the same, the military potential of Fashington is very high, and they have decayed for a very long time, since the Soviet era, but they will not decay. Although the fact that there will be no open conflict with you, they will only spoil economically, but it is possible to supply weapons to all the reptiles that will be used against us.
      1. 0
        19 September 2014 18: 33
        here ukrov and incite
  4. +16
    19 September 2014 08: 12
    Thirdly, as China expands its interests outside the state, they spread throughout the world.this is the main ...
    1. +7
      19 September 2014 09: 10
      China is surrounded by the Arctic, Pacific and Indian oceans,

      The Chinese burned, blabbed their plans. China will be surrounded by the Arctic Ocean only by capturing the Far East in Chukotka inclusive. However, back in the 1960s, Mao claimed that Kamchatka was illegally seized from China by tsarist Russia, and China will still present an invoice for this. And where is Kamchatka, there is Chukotka.
      I really don't think Uncle Sam will like the prospect of having China as a neighbor of Alaska across the Bering Strait. And this is Russia's chance to keep the Far East for itself without resorting to the "last resort" weapon - nuclear. If the Pacific Fleet, as it is today, even after the arrival of the Mistrals (which is not yet guaranteed), is unlikely to withstand the Chinese fleet, then with the help of a couple of American aircraft carrier groups it will quite cope.
      1. +4
        19 September 2014 09: 31
        Quote: Nagan
        I really don't think Uncle Sam will like the prospect of having China as a neighbor of Alaska across the Bering Strait. And this is Russia's chance to keep the Far East for itself without resorting to the "last resort" weapon - nuclear.

        Dear Mr. Marshal! A strong, secretive, greedy neighbor who dreams of "spreading his influence over the whole world" is not needed by anyone. Therefore, we need to take a step aside and let the PRC enter the lists (the second fighter is the States). And we ourselves, following the wise advice of our eastern neighbors, observe the fight from the top of the mountain (Russia has never climbed a tree, because it has never been a monkey! Unlike the khinchiks).
        One thing is bad: all this is at our side. And the fight is inevitable. In order not to be involved in it, we do not go for a military alliance with the PRC. Trade, "make friends", cultural exchange - this is as much as you like. And to fight for your interests - thank you! Well, so that the USA woman gets a good kick in the teeth, we throw our not the worst weapon on the tangerines. Further, "coperasts" include a copier and here you are a lot of pepilats.

        Well, in general, something like that.
        1. -3
          19 September 2014 16: 37
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          we throw our not the worst weapon on the tangerines. Further, "coperasts" include a copier and here you are a lot of pepilats.


          And then this mass of Pepilatsev is targeting whom? There is a whole ocean from China to America, on which the "Nimitz" sovereignly rule, and it is not for China to shove against them. Chinese copies of the SU-27 will not reach America either. And the Far East is just across the river.
          Of course there is also Taiwan, for which America promised to intercede if necessary. But the farther, the less likely it becomes the seizure of Taiwan by military means. Their economy, and so the farther the more tightly integrated with the Chinese, and to ruin its war to China one loss. And there is no free land and natural resources - without which China is suffocating - in Taiwan. Either the Far East and Siberia.
      2. +4
        19 September 2014 09: 53
        Plus, but with an amendment. The US masters are more than satisfied with China's seizure of the Russian FER. To clarify, not the official structures of the United States and not the US Armed Forces (which will then have to expel the Chinese from there), namely the OWNERS of the states. This is due to the fact that the technological advantage of the USA and Japan (as a base of applied technologies) WILL ALWAYS BE ON ORDER in relation to the Chinese "copiers". To do this, you just need to compare the mentality of Norrie engineers (including the pulling together of intellectual cadres from developing countries) and the mentality of the Chinese "rationalizers". So, do not be a climatic catastrophe, the US Kaganate will expel China from any disputed colonies. I would like to draw your attention to how painful the question was in the States in the early 50s, there was sheer hysteria under Truman: How could we "lose" China ?! Chiang Kai-shek was so ideally suited for the role of a battering ram of the eastern gates of the USSR, and Mao's victory (so you say later that Stalin is paranoid) made it possible to knock out this card in the conditions of an impending atomic war and post-war devastation in the Union. However, the lament from "Lord, let a Chinese man on them" (Catechism of the behavior of a Jew in the USSR) is still relevant, and even more so than before. China is holding back from a rush to the north also the understanding that, having swept away Russia, China will not hold these territories, and it is even possible in the course of the dispute that it will pay off by receiving massive boarders, up to weapons of mass destruction.
        1. 0
          19 September 2014 12: 28
          Right, right. I think that both the USA and the PRC open their mouths on the same territories of Russia. Therefore, their union is very problematic. If the United States is at war with Russia, China will win, as it will retain its power. And, conversely, if China dares to get involved, the United States is only waiting for this.
        2. +2
          19 September 2014 15: 06
          Quote: andrew42
          China is also holding back the idea that, sweeping Russia away, these territories will not be kept by China, and it is even possible to pay in the course of a dispute by receiving massive bombardments, up to WMD.

          China is holding back from the northward throw not this understanding, but the clear realization that in the event of a conflict with Russia, only good nostalgic memories will remain from the Celestial Empire in a week.
          China is very vulnerable due to the fact that the bulk of industry and the population are literally focused on a dime. And this patch is almost completely sanitized in case of dam blasts on the main rivers.
          It is for this reason that China is not capable of fighting either Russia or the States. The maximum of its capabilities is Japan and Indochina.
        3. +2
          20 September 2014 01: 02
          Quote: andrew42
          China is also holding back the idea that, sweeping Russia away, these territories will not be kept by China, and it is even possible to pay in the course of a dispute by receiving massive bombardments, up to WMD.

          King:
          Are you back in your tune?
          I’ll go to jail, keep in mind!
          I'm not just a balabol,
          Well, I'm leading a policy! (with)

          The Chinese are anyone but not fools! And their leaders, for the most part, are wise politicians. Therefore, choosing from two options for the development of events: confrontation with the states that openly proclaim China an expansionist and "enemy of democracy" - on the one hand, and support of the Russian Federation (political, diplomatic, economic) of China in its confrontation with the United States, on the other, the PRC will not become attack your ally. We are connected by many things, we need each other in opposition to the common hegemon.
          Second, the Russia can be damaged, but it cannot be "swept away"! Yes, you can attack us, but the aggressor (China, States) will be buried in this case. And everyone understands this, including tangerines and yussers. Therefore, they can only attack the "sick lion", the country corrupted from within, economically fallen, exhausted by interethnic conflicts. No one will dare to attack a strong, solidly united power. We must be united and strong. This is the guarantee of our safety.
          Third, China is extremely vulnerable geographically. By location of industry, population, by the position of dams, by fertile, suitable for agricultural lands, etc.
          "Arable land in China accounts for only 10% of China's land area, and it is mainly located in the coastal provinces. About 90% of China's total population lives in an area that makes up only 40% of the country's total area. The most densely populated areas are the lower delta. The Yangtze and the North China Plain.The Yellow River, Huaihe River has always been subject to powerful floods ... In the headwaters of the main river and its tributaries, ten dams were built. The largest of these are the Meishan and Foziling dams in the west of Anhui province. Were built and reinforced dams with a total length of hundreds of kilometers ... Huge spaces of the outskirts of China are practically deserted. According to 1996 data, the average population density of the country is 127 people per square kilometer. km. "http://dic.academic.ru
          For Khinchiks, as for no one, the saying is relevant: do not throw stones at others when you yourself live in a glass house.
    2. 0
      19 September 2014 12: 46
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      Thirdly, as China expands its interests outside the state, they spread throughout the world.this is the main ...

      Since the United States is currently placing strategic emphasis on the Asia-Pacific region, this directly affects the PRC, and its foreign interests are more and more at risk from America.

      Declared war on China ... and surrendered in a day.
  5. -6
    19 September 2014 08: 12
    There will be no war, not counting local wars.
    Why there will be no war? Because all those who are able to untie her are big cowards))
    1. +23
      19 September 2014 08: 20
      Quote: shishakova
      There will be no war, not counting local wars.
      Why there will be no war? Because all those who are able to untie her are big cowards))

      No, enemies are not cowards. It's just that the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, and the other Morgan are well aware that a nuclear response is inevitable. And they do not need a radioactive corpse of the planet, in which an ordinary ax will be needed more than a billion bucks. Puppets make faces, and puppeteers quietly make their gesheft. Just a business.
      1. +4
        19 September 2014 09: 55
        Well said. I fully support this point of view. Cowards are not cowards, but they consider power and money.
    2. +3
      19 September 2014 09: 08
      God forbid, of course, the third world war, but this time let it start on the territory of the Anglo-Saxons, and a couple of years from there, wherever it spread!
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    4. +12
      19 September 2014 09: 39
      Quote: shishakova
      Why there will be no war?

      In the event of a military confrontation, the United States will draw the enemy into the exchange of aerospace strikes with USUAL WEAPONS. With the weakness of the anti-aircraft defense of the victim country, they will bomb it in the Stone Age, using the WTO. In this case, following the concept of Moscow State University - in the first strike, the victim’s organs and control points will be knocked out. Further it will be like with the Yugas.
      Knowing this scenario, GDP and orders to force our missile defense systems. "Antey" works around the clock! in three shifts! without days off and smoke breaks for lunch! The air smells like thunder!
      JUNE 1941 OF THE YEAR SHOULD NOT BE REPEATED!
      1. +1
        19 September 2014 12: 48
        Therefore, we are proud of our Army, our country, our President.
        I wish health, strength, clarity of mind, firmness of hands to all our men - patriots of Russia, wherever they are.
  6. Evgen4ik
    +9
    19 September 2014 08: 13
    In short, the Chinas transparently hinted that if the mess begins, they will sit aside ... And I have a feeling that they will be strictly for themselves ....
    1. +4
      19 September 2014 09: 41
      Quote: Evgen4ik
      And I have a feeling that they will be strictly for themselves ....

      Sure! after all, they will have to fight. The States want to put them in their place, to "protect" their allies in the APR! I hope we won't get into this "dog wedding".
  7. +4
    19 September 2014 08: 13
    focusing on world war, and pay due attention to building naval power.
    It’s worth it and we think soldier
    1. 0
      19 September 2014 18: 17
      who should - think. It’s just a little expensive ... Yes, the oligarchs-embezzlers strive to cut their 5% ...
  8. +4
    19 September 2014 08: 16
    warriors of all countries blindly believed in the US strategy of disarming the Russian Federation with a global strike, hence they dance - all their strategy is based on the fact that the Russian Federation will not become a nuclear player, i.e. we need to find a point on the planet, the impact on which will destroy the planet itself - this will truly be the "Dead Hand"
    They won’t drink without us - we’ll set fire to all the spirits!
    1. +3
      19 September 2014 08: 37
      Quote: Sergey Sitnikov
      those. we need to find a point on the planet, a hit on which will destroy the planet itself -

      what to look for then? any "head" if it breaks through to the Yellow Stone, will provide a new starting point in the development of the planet ... without people ...
  9. +7
    19 September 2014 08: 16
    China is surrounded by the Arctic, Pacific and Indian oceans,


    This is what side he got used to the northern Arctic ???
    1. +5
      19 September 2014 09: 03
      This is what side he got used to the northern Arctic ???

      Yes, and the Indian, too, no. They apparently have their own globe.
      1. 0
        19 September 2014 11: 38
        You took it out of context. It is about the development of the naval forces.
  10. Khalmamed
    +2
    19 September 2014 08: 19
    Quote: shishakova
    There will be no war, not counting local wars.
    Why there will be no war? Because all those who are able to untie her are big cowards))

    just add
    ....., and who can develop the crazy! "
    1. +2
      19 September 2014 08: 25
      Quote: Khalmamed
      and who can develop those who have gone mad! "
      These can and there are enough of them in Fashington, there are psaki wassat
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  11. +7
    19 September 2014 08: 23
    It’s time to understand that if the Third World War begins, then NO ONE will ANYWHERE ANYWHERE ... Even the penguins in Antarctica will get ... But people, especially those who survive, will only have to regret ... It’s regret - because to name their future miserable existence is life - the language will not turn around ... The worst radiation background that will remain after the nuclear conflict will complete its work and make death only even more painful ...
    1. 0
      19 September 2014 08: 36
      Yeah, penguins first.
    2. 0
      19 September 2014 08: 36
      Yeah, penguins first.
    3. +2
      19 September 2014 08: 46
      Let the "amateurs" of the Third World War see the film "On the Last Shore"!
      Look! He touched me hard! I went under the impression for a long time! Only - watch everything to the end!
    4. +6
      19 September 2014 14: 14
      - "And then the living will envy the dead!"
  12. sigismund
    -8
    19 September 2014 08: 23
    What nonsense! Who needs dominance at sea, we all live on land, the sea is not our living space.

    The war for water threatens, but this is not the sea, but sources of fresh water! Maybe the wrong translation?

    Everything is true about the war in cyberspace; it has been going on for a long time; we are really strong in it.
    1. +6
      19 September 2014 08: 33
      Kamrad, you are deeply mistaken, the sea is the most important strategic component in our world, over time you will read more and understand everything.
  13. +3
    19 September 2014 08: 24
    After the undeniable defeat of the United States, China will take their place.
    1. +2
      19 September 2014 10: 19
      Quote: Strah
      After the undeniable defeat of the United States, China will take their place.

      Whether oh! We all "do not love" the United States (to put it mildly), but this does not cease to be the most powerful superpower in the military and economic terms. (Urya-patriots: look at the composition of the Navy, Air Force, Ground Force, the level of GDP and the generation of weapons! And compare with any of the countries.)
      Therefore, in order to defeat the USShaika, it must first be "shattered", undermined its economic power, bankrupt, corrupted morally (morally - they are corrupted long ago!)
      And so, only in alliance with the PRC can we win. But we do not need war. We need peace to recover economically and restore the former power of Russia.
      1. -1
        19 September 2014 18: 21
        dodge and dodge and wait for the mattress covers to "blow away"
    2. +1
      19 September 2014 12: 52
      Put a plus, most likely so. But somewhere in smart books I read that the mentality of the Chinese is closer to us.
  14. +3
    19 September 2014 08: 27
    Eh, if the 3 World War begins, then there will be completely different problems for everyone.
  15. +6
    19 September 2014 08: 27
    Hope in China, with a mess with mattresses. Of course not. These guys will only protect themselves.
  16. +4
    19 September 2014 08: 27
    Quote: volot-voin
    ear with China must be kept sharp. First of all, to prevent creeping migration to the Far East.

    There is no creeping Chinese migration to the Far East. Leave these speculations already.
  17. +3
    19 September 2014 08: 29
    Yeah! China will prove itself. I'm sure that if something starts, they will wait until it becomes clear who is who!
  18. +1
    19 September 2014 08: 29
    Quote: rugor
    China is surrounded by the Arctic, Pacific and Indian oceans,


    This is what side he got used to the northern Arctic ???


    They have interests there.
  19. -5
    19 September 2014 08: 30
    The stupid brainless article the person who wrote absolutely does not understand what he is writing about.
    1. Aydar
      +7
      19 September 2014 09: 53
      Quote: viktor52
      The dumb brainless article the person who wrote absolutely does not understand what he writes

      Apparently your opinion is the truth? Although, in principle, in terms of semantic load, what you wrote looks more stupid and wretched.
      The author of the article wrote what many Chinese people think and for those Chinese who still do not think so. On the whole, he is right; the giant war machine of the PRC was created and was hatched for so long to solve geopolitical tasks, and not internal ones.
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    3. +4
      19 September 2014 10: 05
      Yes, he understands everything. Only explicitly cannot say. However, he hinted about the Arctic quite transparently. The bottom line is that nobody wants to get to grips with Russia first. The states need to push China, but China does not want to drag the chestnuts out of the fire, realizing that then all "acquisitions" from it will be swept away early. On the other hand, China is afraid of being left alone with the overtly Zionized NATO. At the same time, he knows that in the near future NATO will not get into Russia in a large-scale war. And therefore, both want and inject.
      1. ISKANDER25
        0
        19 September 2014 11: 26
        Hello! Thank you for explaining! And then below someone asked stupidly minus slapped!
  20. +3
    19 September 2014 08: 31
    China is strong, no doubt, but history must be remembered. How many Japanese troops were there, and how many Chinese were opposing them when they bent China in full, and in 1931-32, and in 1937-1945? As the saying goes, our cause is just.
    1. +2
      19 September 2014 10: 35
      Quote: Mareman Vasilich
      but history must be remembered.

      Then I propose to recall the Korean War! semi-socialist China has already fought there: poorly armed, but with the idea of ​​an MAO in the head (and a gun in his hand).
      Therefore, you are right: they have been driven in and continue to drive them that their cause is "right!" And a convinced enemy can only be killed, persuaded, as the same story shows, it takes a lot of time ... a couple of generations. An example is modern dill.
  21. +2
    19 September 2014 08: 37
    Let China Think Better about Japan, Vietnam, both Koreas, about its Taiwan.
    1. +2
      19 September 2014 12: 32
      Why do they need densely populated resource poor territories when things are easier in the North?

      With China you need an ear vostro.
  22. +2
    19 September 2014 08: 47
    If China wants to squeeze the Far East from us with the help of military force, then the ground forces and the Air Force will develop, and not the fleet. So it seems that the Chinese are more focused on confronting NATO and Japan.
  23. sanek0207
    +2
    19 September 2014 08: 50
    In any case, Russia needs to rely only on itself! Allies are certainly good, but as soon as they smell fried, how many will remain !?
  24. -3
    19 September 2014 08: 54
    What "raking" Chinese!
  25. +2
    19 September 2014 09: 00
    China finally BEGINS REALLY to look at things .... TIME for a FULL ASSEMBLY OF STRENGTH is less ... and the USA will obviously NOT GIVE TIME to make COUNTRIES STRONGER THEM!
  26. ISKANDER25
    +2
    19 September 2014 09: 33
    Hello! Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t exclude the possibility of China’s economic capture of Siberia with the subsequent military invasion. Explain if this is possible then why? Thanks!
    1. ISKANDER25
      0
      19 September 2014 11: 23
      It is easy to set a minus, but it is WEAK to explain!
  27. +1
    19 September 2014 09: 40
    GOD always has trump cards in his sleeve. Like the Russians.
  28. 0
    19 September 2014 09: 41
    Now it began to reach everyone - why buy Mistral, and why mattresses are so howling that they can get to us. This is a deterrence weapon, like a nuclear one. If something happens, we can deliver troops to their shores. And for them it’s a nightmare.
    1. +3
      19 September 2014 10: 46
      Quote: Manul
      If something happens, we can deliver troops to their shores. And for them it’s a nightmare.

      About a bad dream - I agree. But about "deliver ..." "Vague doubts torment me: the shpak has a tape recorder, the ambassador has a medallion!"(C).
      Although I am not a "tsarist mug", I am hinting at the impracticability of this task with the existing composition of the Navy and Air Force. And also I do not see ways to solve the problem of conquering dominance in the DesO landing area. Well, if, of course, you do not brush off all the staff in the sea with a vigorous weapon.
      Then why do we need a radioactive desert?bully
      1. 0
        19 September 2014 18: 24
        That's right - our strategy for the development of the Navy is exclusively "defense"
  29. Aydar
    +5
    19 September 2014 09: 46
    Quote: VICTOR-61
    The mattresses will pester war on Russia, knowing that we will give a fight to the mattresses and we have a strong, bold and ready army, and they rot and only know how to fight on Facebook with words

    Fool's opinion, listen better to an adult uncle:
    "mattresses", as you say, are not "zasut", just the geopolitical position of the United States far from the continents and the main theater of operations implies the need for liberal and US-friendly regimes that can provide a future war with resources, means of logistics, food and support, - to conduct all this across the ocean or by air in the required volumes will be an operation on a planetary scale, therefore it is not feasible. Given the US dependence on friendly regimes and bridgeheads for conducting a large-scale war (but this is far from cowardice or inability to fight), it can be assumed that the US is unlikely to get involved in a large-scale conflict on foreign territory, as it is too dependent on supplies of everything it needs, but to support it " friendly regimes "in their large-scale war with their adversaries can and do.
    1. 0
      19 September 2014 18: 26
      Therefore, for mattresses - the ideal option is a war between the EU and China over the remains of Russia.
  30. +5
    19 September 2014 09: 47
    The Chinese are not friends to us, they are fellow travelers. In no case should you conclude a military alliance. You need to know the Chinese. They will not fight for us.
  31. TECHNOLOGY
    +2
    19 September 2014 09: 48
    Here is the whole of China. Just an opinion.
  32. Aydar
    +2
    19 September 2014 09: 57
    Quote: Manul
    Now it began to reach everyone - why buy Mistral, and why mattresses are so howling that they can get to us. This is a deterrence weapon, like a nuclear one. If something happens, we can deliver troops to their shores. And for them it’s a nightmare.

    Nuno presented how troops were being transported to the shores of Ai and laughed. The man obviously didn’t read Tsushima, not aware that people are not soldiers, and you won’t bring them to the shores of the sworn I’m in iron troughs, half will die of hunger, half will be drowned right on the way, those gangstas will tie them on the banks niggas
    IMHO sai degrades and becomes a branch of Yeralash.
  33. +2
    19 September 2014 09: 58
    In China, a large but unshooted army, which is very important, and it’s very expensive to arm such an armada with modern weapons and will do little for the unshooted. Training is needed somewhere.
  34. -2
    19 September 2014 10: 00
    They will not fight with us! They do not want to sit back, to death in comfortable underground catacombs, under a virtual sky.
    They chose a different path - economic sanctions. Remember the Georgian company. The West then could not unite, was confused. That was the first attempt. 5 years later. They analyzed their mistakes.
    Ukraine was just a trigger. Occasion. I didn’t calculate the situation at that time and got the go-ahead for troop entry. But if so, then they had to be entered without looking back. At that time, the people of the outskirts were not so bombed. But realizing that not everyone will meet our army columns with flowers and Ukrainians are imprisoned for conflict with us, he gave a stop. But having received the go-ahead for the entry of troops, he gave the West a propaganda map-Russia aggressor. The United States began to twist the hands of Europe. And Europe collapsed under their onslaught.
    The consolidated West began a new kind of war. Sanction. Step by Step tighten the economic noose around the neck of Russia. And there is no question- And why did Obama buy (intimidate) Merkel? Yes, nothing! She is from the same pack.
    Now the townsfolk vote with their stomach, not their brains. In Russia, people began to live much better than ever. Cars, mortgages, apartments. The authorities tried their best, raising the living standards of the population.
    I somehow did not understand why looters were shot. Well, the soldier tidied up the clock, so let it be. But no - he, having nothing, got the property. And she needs to use. So you have to live. And the motivation to die disappears.
    Remember the Soviet times. The people did not particularly indulge in material. And we were strong. They fought, died and won.
    Watch now. The referendum at the Scott. 300 years of occupation. Without war it was possible to gain independence. But the stomach voted, not the head.
    Sanctions are very effective. Collapsed tourism business. Despite the assurances of the authorities, food prices began to rise. (Ukrainians are ready to live in dugouts without gas and light. They are supported by the international community! Hurray, Peremoga. Not realizing that they are just a tool in this conflict.) The ruble is falling, which means that for the majority of the population, meat, etc. Products from Argentina and other countries will not be affordable.
    Yes, and our "allies" think primarily of themselves, unlike the Amer. allies. Norway, for fish under our sanctions, has increased the catch 5 times. It turned out that there are supplies of fish to Belarusians, they are doing something and supplying it to Russia as their product! Merkel covers up the supply of goods to Russia and their business is at a loss, but fulfills the decision of the European Union. And here?
    In this situation, to bring Europe to its knees was only the LAST KING of the KING. Namely: GAS !!! To block gas supplies to Europe during the autumn-winter period. Of course, it will hit us too. But Europe needs several years to change gas logistics. We have no more opportunities. The noose of sanctions will only spin.
    You can put an ultimatum before closing the valve. Either they wind down sanctions or ...
  35. Aydar
    +4
    19 September 2014 10: 03
    Quote: Alexashka
    In China, a large but unshooted army, which is very important, and it’s very expensive to arm such an armada with modern weapons and will do little for the unshooted. Training is needed somewhere.

    But did Russia have a shelled army in Chechnya? China is insensitive to losses, compare the mobilization resource of the PRC army and the number of annual recruiting personnel, and you will understand that they can gain military experience in a very short time, while at the same time with minimal losses. The fired army is important for countries with a small army, for example Switzerland, Finland, where each soldier counts. With an army of 2 million people and a mobilization resource of 300 million, the question of acquiring military experience becomes secondary.
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  37. +1
    19 September 2014 10: 16
    If there is such a "booze" as III MV. The ruin will be rolled out in 10 days.
  38. +2
    19 September 2014 10: 53
    China supports Russia only because he himself laid eyes on it.
  39. -1
    19 September 2014 11: 25
    VO is often late with publications by 1 to 4 days (compared to other common resources)
  40. Signature
    -1
    19 September 2014 11: 43
    Several years ago, the BBC made a film about "Chinese civilization" (BBC terminology), in the end of which it was explicitly stated that the said civilization was the most successful on the planet. And even earlier, the British recognized that the next (at that time) 50 years would be for China. Considering what the Chinese got from their arrogant neighbors (first of all, from the Japanese), you actually believe that their painful experience of creating their own culture that is so unlike anyone else's will guarantee humanity from insanity (even despite the threat of the 3rd World War), - if the next half century really remains with China.
    1. Signature
      0
      20 September 2014 08: 26
      The Chinese - though not the simplest, but educated and talented (not politicians) - have been "observed" live for quite a long period. It even happened to artificially prevent the emergence of closer human-friendly contacts with them, the initiators of which were invariably the Chinese. I admit (answering for my words): they are an order of magnitude friendlier, organically intelligent, and equally honest, kinder, brighter ..., for example, the same Ukrainian intellectuals.
      I can not know, first-hand - in other words, of any such origin - Chinese-phobic information from the one who branded mine (mine personally, not expressed by him) opinion. But I have no doubt that it was: a) a radical, b) far from a "kind soul" and c) hardly an "independent analyst."
      Since you need to know firsthand what you undertake to judge peremptorily.
      And one more thing: of course, today any form of "Russian-Chinese friendship" is a bone in the throat for those who want to finish off the "Russian bear", as well as for those who, from an excess of free time (and, probably, free money), see some Euroracial superiority over "Asians" (I would very much like to understand: but why, in fact? ..).
  41. +2
    19 September 2014 12: 16
    list of Chinese invasions (launched precisely on the initiative of China) and military annexations:
    1950 The invasion of China into the controversial Tibet Result: annexation of Tibet.
    1955 An attempt by China to seize Taiwan's islands. Result: The Yijiangshan Islands are captured by China.
    1962 The war of China with India. Traditionally, the aggressor was China, which defeated the Indian units in the North. Result: China's annexation by Aksaychin.
    1969 The landing of Chinese troops on Damansky Island. Result: although the Soviet army won a decisive military victory, Moscow decided to leave the island, which Yeltsin finally gave away in 1991.
    1974 Annexation of the Paracel Islands to China. Prior to this, the islands belonged to South Vietnam. Result: after a naval battle that ended with the victory of the Celestial Empire, they switched to China.
    1979 Sino-Vietnamese War. Result: the ruin and temporary occupation of the northern regions of Vietnam.
    1988 Invasion of the PLA fleet on the Vietnamese part of the Spratly Islands. Bottom line: 8 islands captured sunk by 3 Vietnamese ship. Dozens of victims.

    This is only an incomplete list. For example, there is no conflict in Zhalanashkul, the second Taiwan crisis, and many other conflicts. But the above should be enough for a normal person to dispel the fairy tale about "peaceful China". I don’t know about you, but personally it’s dumb for me to live next to such a neighbor.
    1. 0
      19 September 2014 13: 32
      Neighbors are not chosen. Although, maybe this word is appropriate, but I would say otherwise. Remember: "Fear the Danes, who bring gifts"!
  42. 0
    19 September 2014 13: 07
    Yeah ... As my not quite learned guard used to say: "China is a big city!"
  43. tehb2000
    -2
    19 September 2014 13: 26
    Do you guys know what reminded you?
    starcraft
    Zerg - Chinese
    Terrans - Russian
    protoss - Americans
    Well, or any other alignment))))) do not care.
    it’s just that there are three roughly equal sides (plus or minus).
    just before the war.
    and the cards went who, whom, with whom, who will get what from this, etc.
  44. 0
    19 September 2014 13: 52
    Quote: shishakova
    shishakova Today, 08:12
    There will be no war, not counting local wars.
    Why there will be no war? Because all those who are able to untie her are big cowards))


    look what happened .. one small episode ... BUT ..
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    http://repin.info/sekretnye-materialy/ucheniya-able-archer-83-ssha-byli-gotovy-n
    anesti-yadernyy-strike-po-sssr

    https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publication
    s / books-and-monographs / a-cold-war-conundrum / source.htm # HEADING1-13
    http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nukevault/ablearcher/
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  46. Second
    +1
    19 September 2014 19: 06
    Chinas cast a shadow on the wattle fence. They have been preparing for the third world for about 50 years. Of course, they are building a fleet, but they are focusing on ground forces. The Far East and Siberia are their strategic goal. In case of victory, they will receive EVERYTHING. And the subsoil, and raw materials, and forest, and water + land for immigrants. And they have been preparing for a war with us for a long time.

    Preparing Chinese soldiers at sub-zero temperatures
    1. Second
      +1
      19 September 2014 19: 09
      And where will these armored forces of China trample? And do not think that to America.
      1. +2
        19 September 2014 19: 42
        Second And in the event of defeat, what awaits China? You think they don’t understand it. Then why immediately to the Russian Federation, is there Mongolia and Central Asia, Vietnam and Southeast Asia? Isn’t it easier for them to simply trade and buy what they need? And you can stay without pants.
        They conquered China more than once, and therefore they hold the corresponding army.
        1. Second
          0
          19 September 2014 21: 08
          As I understand it, you are a military man. Aside from nuclear weapons, China's military advantage over Russia is obvious. Factor of. In manpower dozens of times. Mobilization reserve 200 million. What are our chances? Now, with regard to nuclear weapons. Under certain conditions, it may not be involved. An elementary example: in our time, Russian women and children are being killed in Novorossiya. The fifth column in the Kremlin is afraid to strike at Bandera with conventional weapons, nuclear weapons are not even mentioned. I do not write to apply it, but you can intimidate it. But the Judas in power prefer to "negotiate" with Bandera. Transfer the situation to a military conflict with China. And where are the guarantees that we will use nuclear weapons. China, after all, can also smack on the ruble, for example. The USSR was not afraid of anyone. And the oligarchs, forgive me, are trembling for the loot now. And they will go to any agreements. They don't give a damn about Russia. And don't you think the Chinese don't understand this? How the oligarchy is stupidly robbing Russia and bringing loot to the West. To the detriment of our defenses. This also includes the sale of modern weapons to Russia. Loot, but do not care about the country. As for Mongolia, Central Asia, Vietnam and Southeast Asia, their prospects are also very bad ...
          1. +1
            19 September 2014 22: 30
            Quote: Second
            As I understand it, you are a military man. Aside from nuclear weapons, China's military advantage over Russia is obvious. Factor of. In manpower dozens of times. Mobilization reserve 200 million. What are our chances? Now, with regard to nuclear weapons. Under certain conditions, it may not be involved. An elementary example: in our time, Russian women and children are being killed in Novorossiya. The fifth column in the Kremlin is afraid to strike at Bandera with conventional weapons, nuclear weapons are not even mentioned. I do not write to apply it, but you can intimidate it. But the Judas in power prefer to "negotiate" with Bandera. Transfer the situation to a military conflict with China. And where are the guarantees that we will use nuclear weapons. China, after all, can also smack on the ruble, for example. The USSR was not afraid of anyone. And the oligarchs, forgive me, are trembling for the loot now. And they will go to any agreements. They don't give a damn about Russia. And don't you think the Chinese don't understand this? How the oligarchy is stupidly robbing Russia and bringing loot to the West. To the detriment of our defenses. This also includes the sale of modern weapons to Russia. Loot, but do not care about the country. As for Mongolia, Central Asia, Vietnam and Southeast Asia, their prospects are also very bad ...

            One miscalculation in your reasoning: the sources of income of our oligarchy are just in the east of the country. And that changes something, no?
            I didn’t set you a minus hi
            1. Second
              +1
              19 September 2014 22: 57
              Quote: Wheel
              sources of income of our oligarchy just in the east of the country. And that changes something, no?

              Changes, of course, I do not argue. But "our" oligarchy (whether it is 100 times wrong) is not in the first place in the hierarchy of the world oligarchy. But those world oligarchs may well push China to military action against Russia. And sources of income can go to both China and Western oligarchs. Moreover, the West can first push China to war against Russia, and then support Russia. As in the second world war, for example. In this case, the West will have direct access to the resources of Siberia and the Far East along with China. By the way, the prophecy of the Russian Orthodox Saint Seraphim of Sarov speaks precisely about this. Unfortunately.
          2. 0
            25 September 2014 13: 17
            Second
            I understand that you are a military man.

            Are you a “military man”? You write strange things. Even with t.z. simple human logic with sufficient horizons.

            China’s military advantage over Russia is obvious

            A military advantage is not spherical in a vacuum, and does not consist of the difference in inventory lists, but of a variety of factors, including: military school, combat training and spirit, technical characteristics of weapons, conditions for their use, ideological basis of the upcoming conflict.
            Are you aware that these factors even exist?

            China has no real advantage in any of the items listed, except for a long inventory sheet. And by the way, it will not. Because such an advantage is obtained in the hardest battles and grows out of the shed blood and solidarity of millions before mortal danger.

            As for the performance characteristics, there is no and is not expected in the foreseeable future sufficient to suppress the enemy total technological advantage. Even the USA, whose military budget, incl. R&D is not comparable with Chinese.
            Of course, all this is true while maintaining the current dynamics. The reasons for its change are not yet visible.

            The next extremely important set of factors is ideological. How will the Chinese leadership suck the switch from generations of friendship to exterminating hostility? What can make a Chinese soldier drag, despite any losses, onto a foreign land? You do not seem to be aware of this side of the conflict at all. Zombies according to the type of color revolutions are “good”, so far carried out on foreign territory with a foreign population. The expression “In truth is power” has the deepest motivational roots in the psyche. Fascist Germany, in order to create its own local “truth”, forever separated ideologically and practically, atrocities and war crimes, from the rest of Mankind. Will China do something like this? It is unlikely that this is not in their psychology. The ideological issue of the total, bloody, destructive conflict with Russia (and it will be just that if China seriously “rockes”) is extremely difficult and is unlikely to be resolved in any foreseeable future.

            Arms use conditions. Have you looked at the map? How could Chinese troops advance hypothetically into Russian territory? Look at the map. Perhaps something will become clearer to you. Blitzkrieg of China is impossible. Cutting off supply lines is lightened to the limit. Bottom line: a positional war, which boils down to a cross-border protracted conflict. What is its meaning for China? It makes no sense. Rather, it is: economic exhaustion. But the balance of power in the world will not allow you to perform such exercises for a long time. To do this, China must first become an economic super-hegemon.

            However, even in this case, the bombardment of dams, even without the use of nuclear weapons, as has already been mentioned many times, will quickly bring the hegemon to life.
            1. 0
              25 September 2014 13: 25
              Result: China will not conduct military aggression against Russia in the foreseeable future. This analysis has been carried out for a long time and everywhere and everyone understands this.
              Which does not reduce the need for combat readiness of the troops, of course.

              What are our odds?

              The chances of Russia winning are about 90%, if not higher. At the moment, China has nothing to create the possibility of victory in a full-blown conflict.

              Nowadays, Russian women and children are being killed in Novorossia. The fifth column in the Kremlin is afraid to hit Bandera with conventional weapons

              At this level of management, the concept of “fear” is not relevant. A country of this magnitude is responsible for the fate of the entire planet, without any exaggeration.
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  47. G_sl
    0
    19 September 2014 20: 02
    Yeah, the strategists here are still those !!!
    1. Second
      0
      19 September 2014 22: 13
      Have you served in the Far East? Communicated with the officers who took part in the hostilities in Damansky? Are you an expert in China's military doctrine? Yes you, my friend, judging by your comment - a nihilist lol and pacifist soldier.
  48. +1
    19 September 2014 21: 43
    And China is not a simple little thing, everyone knows the cunning and cunning of the Chinese. There is no certainty that at one fine (for them) moment, they will not stick a knife in our back ...
  49. Second
    +1
    19 September 2014 22: 03
    As I understand it, the minus was put to me by some whale or oligarchic diaper wink. That's right, there’s nothing to argue with.
  50. 0
    20 September 2014 00: 00
    Notice if they’re pouring a bottle from us -
    Russia revives its imperial ways, wants to build a new USSR
    Turkey restores world caliphate
    China is surrounded by the Arctic, Pacific and Indian oceans.

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