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Ukrainians have to fight on the blue "lawns"

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The Ukrainian power structures, having inherited from the Soviet army a large number of modern cars at that time, are now forced to "mobilize" the collective farm equipment, still of the same Soviet production, reports the agency Messenger of Mordovia.

Ukrainians have to fight on the blue "lawns"


It is already difficult to say how many vehicles were listed for the three military districts deployed in Ukraine. It is most likely about tens of thousands of units: starting with the small floating transporters LUAZ-967 and ending with the multi-ton MAZ-543 rocket launchers.

From the first years of “independence”, officials in shoulder straps began to actively engage in the optimization of the fleet: thousands of cars were sold, something even went abroad. What remained in storage, practically, was not served and over time became morally obsolete.

According to the newspaper, “at present, the base of the park is still Soviet diesel Ural-4320, KAMAZ-4320, KrAZ-255, KrAZ-260 and gasoline GAZ-66, ZIL-131, UAZ-3151”. New equipment was purchased reluctantly and in small quantities.

As a result, when the technique was needed, hundreds of cars simply did not start. A cry was thrown on the Internet, and conscious citizens began to collect spare parts for military vehicles - who is more than rich. But the enthusiasm of the patriotic part of the population helped weakly — there were not enough working machines as before, so not enough now.



Huge losses forced security officials to requisition everything that moves: both school buses and kolkhoz (farm) “lawns”.

“We can predict that the automotive problem of the Ukrainian security forces will only increase. The capabilities of AvtoKraZ do not allow, at present, to cover all the needs of the security forces, moreover, Russian engines are widely used on these machines. ”- writes the author of the publication.


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  1. dmitrii35
    dmitrii35 18 September 2014 18: 25
    +56
    Further rural carts will go) Horse drawn)
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 18 September 2014 18: 28
      +26
      Quote: dmitrii35
      Further rural carts will go) Horse drawn)


      What do you? All resources are devoted to creating weapons of salvation and retaliation - nuclear weapons! wassat
      1. supertiger21
        supertiger21 18 September 2014 18: 33
        +14
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Quote: dmitrii35
        Further rural carts will go) Horse drawn)


        What do you? All resources are devoted to creating weapons of salvation and retaliation - nuclear weapons! wassat


        By the way, the junta is really going to regain the status of a nuclear power, because they believe that since the 1996 treaty is violated (guarantee of the territorial integrity of Ukraine, provided that it renounces nuclear weapons), it means that they have the legality of possessing nuclear weapons. We must prevent this scenario by all means. , otherwise we will get a "monkey with a grenade" right in front of our face. sad
        1. Alexei
          Alexei 18 September 2014 18: 42
          +18
          Quote: supertiger21
          we get a "monkey with a grenade" right in front of our face.
          And the most unpleasant thing is that another monkey (you know who) can really contribute to this monkey. Anyway, all these "jungles" do not see the shores at all, but I am sure that Mother Russia always has something to pacify and settle down.
          1. mad
            mad 18 September 2014 18: 58
            +13
            And at this time, the television "Square" run into Lyashka, which he pumped on a new gelding for a lyam of hryvnia. I suspect that Babama has.
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 18 September 2014 20: 16
              +6
              I don’t know what kind of car Lyashko has, but I don’t understand what ukrovoyaki ride on ... The grille from ZIL-131, wings from the Urals ... Can anyone enlighten?
              1. Mercenary
                Mercenary 18 September 2014 20: 55
                +7
                This is the know-how of ZAZ. There are further "ears" of air cooling, and the body is from a humpbacked Zaporozhets drinks
              2. rocker_39
                rocker_39 18 September 2014 21: 56
                +5
                This is URAL-43202, a highway modification of the all-terrain vehicle 4320. It is equipped with a wooden cargo platform and tires with constant pressure.
                1. sabakina
                  sabakina 19 September 2014 00: 00
                  +3
                  But why is the ZILovsky radiator grill? I watched the video of this series of cars, the grille is normal, URAL ... request
          2. ermolai
            ermolai 19 September 2014 07: 27
            0
            Yes, it will calm down without mother itself, in November-December a furry animal will come, they will pay for IMF loans, for a corner from Africa. then there’s no bed with dill, but there is a big hairy shop, and a bunch of requisites with machine guns, and the Chinese are still in line for their loans for grain and land, and their twisted battalions will not sit in the wet trenches, they will trample for a better share. and tecto handed out the liver empty sit on the pipe watching how kakly gas gas.
        2. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 18 September 2014 18: 53
          +6
          Quote: supertiger21
          By the way, the junta is really going to regain the status of a nuclear power.

          The lot of the junta, like that cobra, was just spitting poison - that’s their Nuclear weapon. Only, however, in this they have already surpassed themselves.
        3. Altona
          Altona 18 September 2014 19: 06
          +5
          Quote: supertiger21
          By the way, the junta is really going to regain the status of a nuclear power. For it is believed that since the 1996 treaty (guarantee of Ukraine’s territorial integrity subject to the renunciation of nuclear weapons) has been violated, it means that they have the legality to own nuclear weapons.

          ------------------------
          Many questions arise ... First, it will be necessary to withdraw from the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and put yourself on a par with Iran and North Korea ... The second question, financial, is where to get the money to develop their nuclear warheads and build centrifuges to enrich radioactive materials (plutonium and uranium) to the level of weapons ... The third question is the development of new carriers to replace the decrepit Su-24 bomber and the Tochka-U rocket ...
          1. Steel loli
            Steel loli 18 September 2014 21: 40
            +1
            First, you have to withdraw from the Non-Proliferation Treaty and put yourself on a par with Iran and North Korea ...

            Correction
            On a par with Israel and Pakistan.
            The second question, financial, is where to get the money to develop our nuclear warheads and build centrifuges to enrich radioactive materials (plutonium and uranium) to the level of weapons ...

            Not a question at all. Uncle Sam will give how much "young Democracy" needs to fight against Imperial Russia.
            The third question, the development of new carriers, instead of the decrepit Su-24 bomber and the Tochka-U ...

            Why develop something if you have Yuzhmash with its RT-23?
            1. Altona
              Altona 19 September 2014 12: 48
              0
              Quote: Steel Loli
              Not a question at all. Uncle Sam will give how much "young Democracy" needs to fight against Imperial Russia.

              ------------------------
              Uncle SEM yesterday threw only "guarantees" for 1 billion US dollars ... That is, someone will give a loan to Ukraine, and the United States will give 1 billion and Canada will guarantee to give 200 million ... .So the horse may not reach on the way ...
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        4. neri73-r
          neri73-r 18 September 2014 19: 29
          +7
          By the way, the junta is really going to regain the status of a nuclear power, because they believe that since the 1996 treaty was violated


          Believe, DO NOT SUCCESS! They, their masters, will be crushed, possession of nuclear weapons, this is almost real independence (who will give them), the same masters will destroy them and a peaceful atom, since this is energy independence! hi
          1. Vasek
            Vasek 18 September 2014 19: 42
            +3
            Quote: neri73-r
            Believe, DO NOT SUCCESS! They, their masters will crush

            There is another side to the issue.
            If Israel, the United States and Saudi Arabia are seriously considering the possibility of a preventive military action against Iran, then what prevents Russia from protecting itself in the same way?
            Moreover, the chances of success for Russia are to force Ukraine to a nuclear-free status more than Israel against Iran.
            1. Cristall
              Cristall 18 September 2014 23: 35
              -5
              Quote: Vasek
              Moreover, the chances of success for Russia are to force Ukraine to a nuclear-free status more than Israel against Iran.

              what there..RF could not defend even a minimum of its influence in Ukraine. Not a single interest. Not a single person politician ..
              I do not consider military methods - the Kremlin is terribly afraid of being drawn into a conflict and will not go to force methods. And it will - from here the USA will receive big bonuses.
              The Russian Federation will not do anything with Ukraine. The principle of Ukraine does not need to do nuclear weapons. Components can be sent. Russia is not Israel.
              And in general, what is the matter of the Russian Federation to the status of Ukraine? Did not comply with the memorandum. Ukraine may well set a precedent for itself. And this will be a purely internal affair of Ukraine. As Putin said before the coup, this is the choice of the Ukrainian people, we do not intervene.
              Ukraine has the right to do whatever it pleases and what sponsors allow.
              1. studentmati
                studentmati 18 September 2014 23: 39
                0
                Quote: Cristall
                Ukraine has the right to do whatever it pleases and what sponsors allow.


                Do you think that Russia does not control the situation? lol
              2. Johnny51
                Johnny51 19 September 2014 00: 43
                +3
                And it seems to me that the worst thing that Russia could do with Ukraine, it has already done - has stopped feeding on freebies. All that svidomye have learned in 20 years is to beg for freebies. But they got rid of the "soviet" baggage - honor, conscience, decency. Not all, of course. but many ...
                1. Horn
                  Horn 19 September 2014 06: 22
                  +2
                  Quote: Johnny51
                  And it seems to me that the worst thing that Russia could do with Ukraine, it has already done - has stopped feeding on freebies. All that svidomye have learned in 20 years is to beg for freebies. But they got rid of the "soviet" baggage - honor, conscience, decency. Not all, of course. but many ...

                  - Nothing has stopped. Both fed and fed. And we will feed for a long time.
        5. Steel loli
          Steel loli 18 September 2014 21: 49
          +2
          By the way, the junta is really going to regain the status of a nuclear power. For it is believed that since the 1996 treaty (guarantee of Ukraine’s territorial integrity subject to the renunciation of nuclear weapons) has been violated, it means they have the legality to own nuclear weapons

          They cannot return anything to themselves for the simple reason that they have never had a status.
          After the collapse of the USSR, some nuclear weapons remained on the territory of Ukraine, but at the same time the country did not have a complete technical process for the production of such weapons, which is actually necessary in order to have the status of a "Nuclear Power". And from the very nuclear weapons it was quickly relieved by the official member countries of the Nuclear Club.
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        7. Cristall
          Cristall 18 September 2014 23: 30
          -5
          Quote: supertiger21
          For they believe that since the 1996 treaty is violated (a guarantee of the territorial integrity of Ukraine, provided that nuclear weapons are renounced), it means they have the legality of possessing nuclear weapons. We must by all means prevent such a scenario of actions, otherwise we will get a "monkey with a grenade" right in front of with your face

          it will be so if sponsors need it. For there are already requests to give something that is not enough to create.
          In principle, it is possible and chemical .. just a nuclear one who is more solid.
          The contract is violated by the Russian Federation. If the Crimea departed by mutual agreements, the Budapest memorandum would not have been violated. Wait a moment.
          Ukraine is put in a position - "gave up nuclear in exchange for security and the country guarantor it and violated it"
          Obviously, revenge-seeking ideas do have a place. This is more dangerous than just a monkey with a grenade. These are people with an idea and a goal.
          What is the Russian Federation doing so that Ukraine does not become a revanchist state? Nothing ... like, die freeze ... it will resolve itself.
          For me, a great revelation was an interview with Dmitry Kiva. A man like me is offended by Kiev. But at the same time, he believes that the Russian Federation is wrong and is waging a war with Ukraine (what type of war is unimportant but Crimea confirms this)
          I trust Dmitry more. He is a man who worked with the Russian Federation and his business and work depended on the Russian Federation .. but since he says this, it means nothing.
          1. studentmati
            studentmati 18 September 2014 23: 36
            0
            Quote: Cristall
            it will be so if sponsors need it. For there are already requests to give something that is not enough to create.
            In principle, it is possible and chemical .. just a nuclear one who is more solid.
            The contract is violated by the Russian Federation. If the Crimea departed by mutual agreements, the Budapest memorandum would not have been violated. Wait a moment.
            Ukraine is put in a position - "gave up nuclear in exchange for security and the country guarantor it and violated it"
            Obviously, revenge-seeking ideas do have a place. This is more dangerous than just a monkey with a grenade. These are people with an idea and a goal.
            What is the Russian Federation doing so that Ukraine does not become a revanchist state? Nothing ... like, die freeze ... it will resolve itself.
            For me, a great revelation was an interview with Dmitry Kiva. A man like me is offended by Kiev. But at the same time, he believes that the Russian Federation is wrong and is waging a war with Ukraine (what type of war is unimportant but Crimea confirms this)
            I trust Dmitry more. He is a man who worked with the Russian Federation and his business and work depended on the Russian Federation .. but since he says this, it means nothing.


            EMOTIONS.
          2. tantalum
            tantalum 19 September 2014 02: 53
            0
            Quote: Cristall
            A man like me is offended by Kiev. But at the same time, he believes that the Russian Federation is wrong and is waging a war with Ukraine (what type of war is unimportant but Crimea confirms this)
            You already decide who offended you, because you have half of the country there who believe that all around the villains offend them and owe them. But they are sitting here, and they are earning money, and right away they are faulting us. Already got your mentality
        8. vodolaz
          vodolaz 19 September 2014 00: 50
          0
          Who will give them that? Warheads were not produced on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR. And it will take many years to develop your own. And here the lifespan of the country before the final collapse goes on for months. In addition, their "allies", that is, shepherds-mattress can change their minds and change their help with sanctions, because with this chaos there is a great chance that a warhead or two will make its legs and explode somewhere near the Pentagon or the White House.
      2. paul1992
        paul1992 18 September 2014 18: 34
        +10
        What do you? All resources are devoted to creating weapons of salvation and retaliation - nuclear weapons! wassat

        wild button accordion, but throw it off:

        why not nuclear weapons?
      3. VICTOR-61
        VICTOR-61 18 September 2014 18: 38
        +22
        Here are all their dilly weapons
      4. 222222
        222222 18 September 2014 18: 48
        +1
        Nevsky, you are not listening
        http://www.unian.net/politics/986634-pryamaya-translyatsiya-vyistupleniya-porosh
        enko-v-congresse-ssha-video.html
      5. novobranets
        novobranets 18 September 2014 19: 17
        +4
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        weapons of salvation and retaliation

        The weapon of retaliation. Somewhere it was already. Is it not in the year 45 from the mouth of the Führer?
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Further rural carts will go) Horse drawn

        And APCs on fart pair.
      6. GSH-18
        GSH-18 18 September 2014 22: 59
        +1
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        What do you? All resources are devoted to creating weapons of salvation and retaliation - nuclear weapons! wassat

        Yes, it’s not nuclear, but horse manure! Geletey said, in two years we’ll make a nuclear bomb (from two-year stocks of manure!) And we will carry it along the Russian-Ukrainian border, the nuclear spirit from manure from Ukraine will scare the Russians! lol
    2. VICTOR-61
      VICTOR-61 18 September 2014 18: 31
      +17
      That's what they have left another sold such dill here
      1. enot73
        enot73 18 September 2014 18: 37
        +20
        In general, the dill army has already sunk below the baseboard. Well, at least not yet.
        1. Serzh73
          Serzh73 18 September 2014 19: 23
          +11
          Anyway, in the head a mess or worse.
    3. serega.fedotov
      serega.fedotov 18 September 2014 18: 33
      +16
      Quote: dmitrii35
      Further rural carts will go) Horse drawn)

      A horse is not only a valuable transporter, but also 300-400kg of dietary meat!
      So the carts will not reach, the warriors of horses will gobble up hunger!
      1. avt
        avt 18 September 2014 18: 42
        +12
        Quote: serega.fedotov
        A horse is not only a valuable transporter,

        Imagine - YES, a truly valuable transporter! The Germans in 1941, when they seemed to have a wow with vehicles, requisitioned horses with carts of tens of thousands to ensure infantry mobility. But at the pace that ykry lose their vehicles, they will be roaming in pigs in Europe, you will get transport and a snack. laughing
        Quote: PASus
        Get rid of old technology at an accelerated pace

        Actually, they are freed up at any pace from any equipment, but from the transport, in the first place, the militias help a lot.
        1. Vasek
          Vasek 18 September 2014 19: 51
          +2
          Quote: avt
          Imagine - YES, a truly valuable transporter!

          Even here, about 30 years ago (I don’t know how now), in secret order 0245 with wartime allowance provisions, fodder norms for horses were provided. soldier
    4. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 18 September 2014 18: 38
      +5
      Ukrainians have to fight on blue Lawns


      Blue, to their face.
      1. 23 region
        23 region 18 September 2014 18: 47
        +5
        Quote: subbtin.725
        Blue, to their face.

        What are you, what are you, I'm not like that.
        1. enot73
          enot73 18 September 2014 18: 57
          +20
          Dill opened another front against Russia. And also unsuccessfully laughing . Kiev basketball players put on camouflage to play against the Russians, but lost a lot. The Kiev Budivelnik started with a defeat at the Garastas Cup in Lithuania, losing significantly to Khimki near Moscow - 77: 102. The "builders" did not surprise with the game, but with the form - the team of Vitaliy Cherniya came to the match with the Russian grand in khaki uniform. Comments on social networks are full of ridicule for dressed up athletes. “Half of the collective farmers have camouflage for matches with the harvest,” one fan writes, “and what about embroidered shirts?” “I won’t be surprised if they were sent to the Donbass front for defeat. And you don’t have to change clothes, ”another commentator gloats. Russian spring 18.09.2014/14/29 - XNUMX:XNUMX
          1. sherman1506
            sherman1506 18 September 2014 21: 36
            0
            Did they hide on the field?
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    5. sgazeev
      sgazeev 18 September 2014 18: 57
      +18
      Quote: dmitrii35
      Further rural carts will go) Horse drawn)
    6. Krsk
      Krsk 18 September 2014 19: 45
      +1
      Quote: dmitrii35
      Further rural carts will go) Horse drawn)
      then it should be like this: on the snot and to the very Carpathians on the run ... carts have a lot of honor for reptiles.
    7. gispanec
      gispanec 18 September 2014 20: 06
      +4
      Duc already form a new battalion "gray meren" ...
    8. Giant thought
      Giant thought 18 September 2014 20: 21
      +1
      As a result, the economy wins in Ukraine.
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    10. Koresh
      Koresh 18 September 2014 20: 50
      +2
      A long time ago in Volyn, Budenny's division was created. Sam saw a pity not taken on camera!
    11. papas-57
      papas-57 18 September 2014 21: 12
      0
      '' Further, rural carts will go) Horse-drawn) ''. But to the joy of the junta, the problem with the fuel will disappear. No cars - you need less gasoline and diesel fuel for the war. The money saved can be spent on other needs - increasing personal well-being.
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    13. DRA-88
      DRA-88 18 September 2014 22: 23
      +2
      blue eye, blue abdomen, blue forelock
      how are you darling ?! wassat
    14. Finches
      Finches 18 September 2014 23: 59
      +2
      I don’t know how for many in Russia, but for me, this does not inspire ... the war of one’s people with their people, and by and large the war is a war of our people with our people!
      For what???
      In these minutes, I am well aware of the enormous crime against us committed by Gorbachev, Yeltsin ... the entire top of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, sold for cutting, the KGB functionaries, the genius of the USSR Armed Forces, etc. It’s stupid and unreasonable to blame the people, and now these same old-time cars show how controlled people are, they give the last, they themselves go to death, absolutely not understanding for what and why! ?
      That is why I believe that only the introduction of troops into Ukraine can strengthen peace in Europe, no matter how paradoxically it sounds! Further peacekeeping will lead to increased tension and escalation of an even more destructive war!
      "Peacemaker" Poroshenko asks the United States for money and weapons, asks to support them with fire, but do the peacekeepers do this ?? Europe is inventing new sanctions, and we are supplying them with gas ... And although we Russians have never been aggressors, nevertheless, when our tanks were stationed in the GDR, Poland and other Eastern European countries, the rhetoric of Western politicians was more friendly. than now, when we are doing Christian things, turning our cheeks on change!
    15. vodolaz
      vodolaz 19 September 2014 00: 46
      0
      Or a new type of troops will be cycling))))
    16. caprizV
      caprizV 19 September 2014 03: 58
      0
      I can tell you a few WORDS, and this technique will go by itself.
    17. Ugrumiy
      Ugrumiy 19 September 2014 05: 08
      0
      Why, it’s normal, they’ll return to their roots, ancient Ukrainians also fought on horses ... with bows and arrows)))
  2. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 18 September 2014 18: 28
    +5
    Well, they survived, then at least they harnessed the pig to the bucket
    1. asar
      asar 18 September 2014 19: 09
      +14
      Well, something like this, obviously!
  3. asar
    asar 18 September 2014 18: 28
    +4
    The dill has come to the end!
    1. Iline
      Iline 18 September 2014 18: 35
      +17
      Judging by the pictures, Ukraine over the years of its independence has not moved much technically from the times of the USSR. We personally have never seen such a technique for a long time. And they want to compete with Europe with this scrap metal? Do not tell my sandals.
      1. Kent0001
        Kent0001 18 September 2014 19: 01
        +7
        In the photo there is a blue lawn with a radiator grille which is not installed in the second half of the 80s, this is about the stamp drawing. Who remembers, then I understood. And in the course the lawn is 52 :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
        1. samoletil18
          samoletil18 18 September 2014 20: 26
          +2
          In the USSR, agricultural supplies were delivered in bulk GAZ-52, because fuel consumption was less and the engine easier, with the availability of spare parts for MTS, because after the war, ZiS did not appear in the village.
      2. Vasek
        Vasek 18 September 2014 19: 58
        +2
        Quote: Iline
        We personally have never seen such a technique for a long time.

        Well, why?
        Photo number 2 shows an improved lawn with additional air intakes on the hood.
        Apparently, for forcing air into the combustion chamber. "Lawn-Turbo", so to speak ...
        Interestingly, the intercooler is provided?
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    3. GRANATE-19
      GRANATE-19 18 September 2014 19: 18
      +24
      Quote: asar
      The dill has come to the end!

      I was assigned (and now I don’t know whether it was valid or disbanded) to one brigade, in case of wartime, but in peacetime there was a battalion and the brigade consisted of officers and that’s all ...
      Well, according to the plan, as far as I remember, the time is "H" and three waves of mobilization began
      1 - command staff (although I’m not an officer in it, I’ve got military experience and castle experience ...)
      2 - sergeant and private
      3 - auto equipment from state-owned enterprises and whatever else ..., well, of course, the drivers of these cars went under mobilization or from among the previously mobilized they recruited drivers ...
      There was even a point of acceptance of vehicles in two streams, they inspected the cars on it, kept records and so on ..., before becoming repainted in military colors, well, if you didn’t have time, then on the march or later ...
      And the unit also had its own automotive and military equipment on conservation and not like in the Banderstad - stolen and sold, but a complete set, in the flesh, to the sets of keys ...
      So it’s not so funny that the blue 52 lawns serve in banderwafen, only in our country it was of the right lightning speed, after a day or two or three, but the formation was on the march (I don’t remember anymore, I could confuse something in my story, so I apologize in advance), and they began to mobilize equipment when they had nothing left ...
      And one more thing, since they are so locked up, the army of Novorosia needs to destroy equipment (I wrote about this before), it is not necessary to kill fools from the ukrovermaht, just shoot the radiator, well, if an armor-piercing bullet hits the cylinder block, then everything, the engine is larger no: it’s possible to solder the radiator, but if several hits are impossible, and the cylinder block is the whole engine and there is no place to take them, since the capacities of the enterprises are limited, and the components and spare parts, and for the clean engines themselves came from RUSSIA, well, if they if they ask for cars and spare parts in Europe or the states, then I'll see what they will be given and in what quantity ...
      In the film "Hot Snow" the commander said: "We need to knock out their tanks", and of course it is good to destroy tanks (armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles, etc.), but it is much easier to destroy (disable) a car, and without it there is no fuel , no food, no ammunition, no mail, finally (morale is very important) and manpower cannot be transported, and many weapons are towed, so you need to destroy vehicles, and all, regardless of what kind of equipment it is and what it is carrying ...
      Sincerely, I express my humble opinion.
      1. Tourist
        Tourist 18 September 2014 19: 45
        +3
        Your brigade is gone (if you served in Russia) - EMNIP, but all the cropped parts were still stuck "under the knife"
        1. GRANATE-19
          GRANATE-19 18 September 2014 20: 37
          +2
          Quote: Tourist
          Your brigade is gone (if you served in Russia) - EMNIP, but all the cropped parts were still stuck "under the knife"

          It was in 2000, but only to the heart,
          so he probably buried ...
          Sincerely, I express my humble opinion.
        2. GRANATE-19
          GRANATE-19 18 September 2014 20: 37
          0
          Quote: Tourist
          Your brigade is gone (if you served in Russia) - EMNIP, but all the cropped parts were still stuck "under the knife"

          It was in 2000, but only to the heart,
          so he probably buried ...
          Sincerely, I express my humble opinion.
        3. samoletil18
          samoletil18 18 September 2014 20: 55
          +3
          Not the stupidest decision was. It is possible to deploy the FPS (personnel reception point) in the deep rear, in the range of the enemy’s means of reach - the target. Fighting capacity - no, because a fleet of basic equipment and warehouses somewhere tens of kilometers under the protection of the WWII. But 300 people are a separate regiment, 60 people are a battalion, but there are deputy chiefs of staffs, services with the appropriate level of posts and salaries, and to the heap commanders who did not command anyone. He himself served at the headquarters of a separate regiment. Outfit schedule - monthly hemorrhoids, as there are also garrison outfits, like a regiment. TSP and political studies for inspectors, as well as eternal work and outfits. At the same time, its shooting range and range visited by personnel is extremely rare. The case seemed to be necessary, but everything was in the deployed units for mobilization events.
      2. ARES623
        ARES623 19 September 2014 06: 51
        +4
        Somehow, in shaggy 1986, I had the opportunity to deploy the cropped regiment to full staff and participate in combat training exercises with it. About this deployment, you can shoot a full-length series no worse than interns. But the equipment from storage came out almost completely. Lawns were not taken from civilians, but their own, rusty, peeling over decades of storage, BUT WENT, under the control of drivers and mechanics from the assigned staff. Vidok was, God forbid, NATO shuddered and really panicked, the neighboring country announced local mobilization (the army leadership (deputy commander of the OA) moved us into the border zone without an appropriate lead, mistake, you know). A friend from the radio reconnaissance battalion found out a lot about us, and a soldier who translated everything he heard into a censorship look, then received a vacation to his homeland. Can any of the participants remember?
  4. sergey32
    sergey32 18 September 2014 18: 29
    +10
    Mobilization with disposal.
  5. Wiruz
    Wiruz 18 September 2014 18: 29
    +15
    And with us on such machines only manure is delivered to the dachas. No, we are not Europe yes
  6. Stypor23
    Stypor23 18 September 2014 18: 29
    +3
    “It can be predicted that the automotive problem of the Ukrainian security forces will only increase. The capabilities of AvtoKraZ do not currently cover all the needs of the security forces, and besides, Russian engines are widely used on these machines, ”the author of the publication writes.

    Thanks 23 year old devastation good .
  7. krivdaSPb
    krivdaSPb 18 September 2014 18: 30
    +5
    The condom is still worried that he will have to restore the Donbass, but, as we see, there are problems of the Donbass, a campaign, dofiga which still comes out ...
    This is how much dough Ukraine will need to swell in agricultural machinery ... Or are they already, besides being able to sleep in the snow, will they still try to unlearn them over time?
  8. Pasus
    Pasus 18 September 2014 18: 30
    +3
    They are getting rid of old equipment at an accelerated pace, and Parashka in Matrasia at this moment is begging for weapons and equipment. They promised him anti-tank systems to help Amersky tsuki.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 18 September 2014 18: 33
      +4
      They are getting rid of old equipment at an accelerated pace, and Parashka in Matrasia at this moment is begging for weapons and equipment. They promised him anti-tank systems to help Amersky tsuki.

      During his speech in Congress, congressmen raised thrice rolls for applause in his honor. I wonder how he sold himself. winked
      1. muhomor
        muhomor 18 September 2014 19: 39
        +3
        Yes, nothing! He is positioned there as a fighter with the Russian army. (Which never came to the war) And the Russophobic fighter is alive! This is a hero in the eyes of America "" AI and Geyropa!
    2. Oprychnyk
      Oprychnyk 18 September 2014 19: 04
      +4
      Since tanks don’t drive, install them on railway platforms. The armored train will work. And the other, on a river tug or barge. Monitor or armored boat will work. And if you throw grenades from the Yak-18, an attack aircraft or, God forbid, a whole bomber will succeed.
  9. Ober.K
    Ober.K 18 September 2014 18: 31
    +6
    The people say this: - "What themselvessuch and sledge!"
  10. Revolver
    Revolver 18 September 2014 18: 32
    +14
    Blue "Lawns", blue Lyashki and other right-sex people - everything will go into business with a good owner. wassat
  11. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 18 September 2014 18: 33
    +4
    Well them, de.billov. Soon on scooters and holes with lisapeds they will get to the ATO zone. Hohloarmiya - continuous profanity.
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    2. 23 region
      23 region 18 September 2014 18: 51
      +7
      Quote: Riperbahn
      Well them, de.billov. Soon on scooters and holes with lisapeds they will get to the ATO zone. Hohloarmiya - continuous profanity.

      Ukroarmiya invasion. The world froze in suspense.
  12. pvv113
    pvv113 18 September 2014 18: 34
    +6
    Huge losses forced security officials to requisition everything that moves: both school buses and kolkhoz (farm) “lawns”.

    Probably the time has come to switch to horse and other horse-drawn traction, and to introduce the position of "mare driver-mechanic" in the troops wassat
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 18 September 2014 19: 22
      +3
      Quote: pvv113
      "mare driver mechanic"

      Submariner - driver of carts. wassat
  13. Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 18 September 2014 18: 34
    +2
    So the German infantry basically walked on foot .. It's time to match those to whom you imitate.
    1. avt
      avt 18 September 2014 18: 49
      +4
      Quote: The Cat
      So the German infantry basically moved on foot.
      No. No wonder! They only in 1942 they requisitioned 20012 horses, according to their account, and, as I wrote earlier, infantry mobility was already provided at 41m with requisitioned horses with carts.
  14. fridge
    fridge 18 September 2014 18: 35
    +2
    There will still be roofing felts, and bulls with carts will soon be engaged in delivery! laughing
  15. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 18 September 2014 18: 36
    +13
    Well, what else dill remains to do if almost all military equipment is destroyed?

    Since the beginning of the ATO, Ukraine’s battlefield lost more than 60% of the equipment that was in good condition. Full replenishment of these losses due to the commissioning of equipment removed from long-term storage is impossible in principle. Impossible no matter the timing. The only way out is supplies from abroad ...

    They will even be able to make poop out of normal technology. Already on the site there was information that they use the Strela-1 air defense system based on the BRDM-2 as an armored personnel carrier, well, now we got to the self-propelled anti-tank systems: 9P148 BRDM-2 with the anti-tank complex of the 11th battalion of territorial defense "Kievskaya Rus" in the area Debaltseve
    So you have to create "who knows what ..."





    Circle crazy hands in Ukrainian, damn it ...
  16. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 18 September 2014 18: 37
    +5
    Soon, bicycles in the yards will requisition.
  17. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 18 September 2014 18: 38
    +4
    These are thought out and put on combine harvesters with tractors on a machine gun.
  18. kelevra
    kelevra 18 September 2014 18: 39
    +2
    Loshpedy, soon all this blue technique will turn into a black scorched one!
  19. Megatron
    Megatron 18 September 2014 18: 42
    +1
    Why are you laughing: "horses, carts", carts are our everything! And go ahead! Old Man Makhno! Looking out the window.
  20. Stinger
    Stinger 18 September 2014 18: 42
    +12
    There are blue lawns. It remains to requisition yellow taxis. All in color. The rest is burned.
    1. krivdaSPb
      krivdaSPb 18 September 2014 18: 58
      +2
      Bravo!!!:))))))))))))))
  21. teascher
    teascher 18 September 2014 18: 43
    +2
    According to authoritative sources: the latest weapons are coming into the Ukrainian army - military warfare agents, in the form of bags of pork dung, delivery vehicles will be tested on a catapult, which, according to the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, will become a worthy deterrent to Russian nuclear weapons
  22. gmasterbit
    gmasterbit 18 September 2014 18: 44
    +5
    Poroshenko managed to cross the movie crazy max with juche ideas ..
    monsters from harvesters on the roads and all the forces of the remaining people to create a nuclear bomb
  23. Prolitary
    Prolitary 18 September 2014 18: 44
    +4
    Ukraine has come up with its own version of recycling "Ukrainian-auto-trash")))
  24. Arkan
    Arkan 18 September 2014 18: 46
    +14
    Tachanka, tse force!
  25. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 18 September 2014 18: 52
    +6
    Well, what to do? If even civilians at dill tanks steal?
    In the Sartana area, locals hijacked two tanks from the gaping Ukrainian military.
    According to eyewitnesses on social networks, the soldiers of the Ukrainian garrison, confident of their own integrity, went to the store, leaving two tanks with working engines at the entrance. And they never saw them again. 10 minutes was quite enough to hijack combat vehicles. The unknown daredevils, residents of Mariupol, "attached their legs" to the tanks. The armored vehicles were handed over to the militia.
    “Can you imagine what a surprise the militiamen felt when two tanks were pinned at full speed to their post with all the Ukrainian symbols. The only thing that stopped the militias from firing was that the turrets of the tanks were turned back,” writes one of the residents of Mariupol.
    Residents of Mariupol claim that this is not the first such case. A similar episode happened the day before near the village of Kominternovo, where the security forces settled down to rest. Some clever local guys stole two guns from the supporters of the new Kiev government. They were dragged with tractors to the militia. “These are our underground partisans, so that Mariupol didn’t jump and will never jump,” local residents comment on the events on social networks.
    According to media reports, the garrison of besieged Mariupol has not felt safe for a long time. In view of the current situation, the city administration made a decision to introduce the maximum number of immigrants from Western Ukraine into the ranks of law and order defenders. Now the Mariupol policemen operate only under the control of their Ukrainian colleagues from the western part of the country. Even in small patrols on the streets of the city, half of the composition should be represented by "Westerners".

    http://piter.tv/event/novosti_novorossii_sejchas_18_sentyabrya_2014_goda_video_1

    /


    a formidable Ukrainian citizen threatens to gore all "damned m_skaly"
  26. pensioner
    pensioner 18 September 2014 18: 55
    +2
    Ukrainians have to fight on the blue "lawns"
    Soon they will send harvesters to fight and seeders with winders. Only here are the most common, and not vertical take-off and unlimited radius of action ... Cesspool machines can still be mobilized yes . Now Ukrainians will definitely begin to eat less sad . Here is a part of this crap and mobilize ...
  27. sounddoc
    sounddoc 18 September 2014 18: 55
    +5
    What is there technology! Svidomye genetics brought a new breed of super-fighters!
    These individuals listen and watch only ukrosmi, eat bacon and, without hesitation, kill everyone who does not start jumping at the command "Glory to Heroes !!!" The hybrids have already passed the first tests on the Maidan and in the Donbass, proving their stupidity, bloodthirstiness and omnivorousness. Now the henies are arguing about how to call it uyo .. ische - "ukrokhryak" or "pig ukr")))
    1. ARES623
      ARES623 19 September 2014 06: 59
      0
      Their name is MANKURT
  28. Mimocrocodile
    Mimocrocodile 18 September 2014 19: 01
    +1
    Honestly, look at it bitterly. No, negligent children, of course, tend to squander the state of the deceased parents, but in such a way ... As if they specially drove people to help them cut the army.
    Z.Y. And the pictures with their folk art simply killed.
  29. lexx2038
    lexx2038 18 September 2014 19: 02
    +1
    Judging by the photo, the GAZON is turbocharged, probably it gets up on its hind legs if you do not gently press the gas tank.
  30. Slavaman
    Slavaman 18 September 2014 19: 07
    +1
    now forced to "mobilize" collective farm equipment

    You look at the next sowing season the demand for horses and mules will increase sharply
  31. Everest2014
    Everest2014 18 September 2014 19: 17
    +6
    Without many words.
  32. BOB044
    BOB044 18 September 2014 19: 20
    +2
    Yes, let them ride scooters to the front lines. The more their zgi are not there, the better it will be.
  33. andrewkor
    andrewkor 18 September 2014 19: 42
    +1
    like these cars seen in crazy max
  34. muhomor
    muhomor 18 September 2014 19: 48
    +3
    Guys! No need to laugh. Sykope infantry uses improvised means. But the army is not so straightforward! The army units (except 79,24,51 and 83 brigades) retained the military backbone. And they are armed with not a GAZ 52!
  35. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 18 September 2014 19: 49
    +5
    Until the well-known events of this year, frankly speaking, I did not know who the Armed Forces had reached. Although there were some doubts. Let me explain. After the collapse of the last state, many classmates at the School went to serve in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Sure. each has its own story. Who did not want to lose everything and leave, who simply stayed for career reasons, who for ideological reasons. It is noteworthy that it became more difficult to communicate with them at alumni meetings. Arrogance appeared, not accepting a different opinion, and so on. The strangest and most incomprehensible thing is that one of his classmates, being the director of an aircraft repair enterprise, became a "hero not fallow". It is difficult to understand how and for what merits such a high award can be received. Now, after everything that happened, it became clear. The decline began long ago and is not over yet. But I'm not sorry for them ...
  36. 89095698004
    89095698004 18 September 2014 19: 50
    +6
    I was drafted into the army in the spring of 1991. I myself came from Petrozavodsk to serve in Belarus. In part, there were people of all nations belonging to the USSR I remember how it all began ((how our brothers screamed about feeding Russia and blah blah blah How did the same Belarusians say how they they’ll heal now)))) To my objection, that the same MAZ assembly line, only laughed After 3 months, everything became different)))
  37. Mol
    Mol 18 September 2014 19: 53
    +3
    Damn, that the Ukrainians are doing badly, we have heard more than once. I am sure that none of me would be interested in reading an article (or even a series of articles) about how things are with our reserves, what equipment is in storage, how much, how it is serviced, etc. Military review! It seems to me that the situation is far from being rosy. I saw a photo report on the network of some guys who entered the storage base of heavy trucks. I looked with interest, but the sediment and bewilderment from the fact that ordinary guys were able to get into the hangar and "take pictures" without any problems remained.
    In his youth, while riding with his father, he often saw an open-air storage base near the village of Lenki Alt. edges where several tens of railway locomotives stood on conservation. Surely in case of war. It was the second half of the 90s or the end. About ten years later I heard that there was already nothing there. One can only guess where they were doing, who took their hands? ..
    And in the spring of this year, on the territory of one of the former Barnaul factories, I came across a couple of dozen army trucks, something like KShM on the URAL, ZIL 131 and GAZ 66 platforms. Judging by the numbers on the boxes, they belonged to signalmen. Rusty, with broken windows, flat tires or without them, mirrors removed, headlights twisted or torn out with meat, lanterns, antennas, etc., skewed. A sad sight ... I walked around and looked. It looks like someone with "the right acquaintances" bought it for a cheap price. Perhaps the technology is still rotting there.
  38. sergeybulkin
    sergeybulkin 18 September 2014 20: 15
    +2
    Ah, poor, unfortunate ukroinskih fascists, oh, you have to slap up to Kiev. Have you tried to steal less?
  39. special
    special 18 September 2014 20: 26
    +1
    Everything matches the color .... hi
  40. Drunya
    Drunya 18 September 2014 20: 44
    +5
    Volunteer with the callsign "Khmury"
    When Kiev aviation began to bomb peaceful cities, Sergei Petrovsky could not sit at home. A retired GRU colonel went to Donetsk from Moscow, where he volunteered to join the militia.

  41. Drunya
    Drunya 18 September 2014 21: 06
    +1
    The commander of the militia Igor Bezler carried out an operation to detain the so-called "commander" of the Novorossiya army Ivan Korsun
    This was stated by Deputy Minister of Defense of the DPR for Intelligence Sergei Petrovsky. Recall, on September 16, the creation of the joint Armed Forces of New Russia was announced. However, the incident did not suit most of the militia commanders. They were not outraged by the fact of unification, but by the fact that this was done without a military council. In this regard, it was not clear who and on what basis decided to appoint Korsun as commander. It should be noted that Korsun has gained notoriety for a long time. For example, initially, while in Kramatorsk, he declared that he was a representative of the Russian GRU, but when they became interested in his figure, he unexpectedly left.
    http://rushor.su/news/19323
  42. midshipman
    midshipman 18 September 2014 21: 17
    +2
    Yes, no, dear readers of "VO", these fascists have three nuclear power plants. Remember the words of Hitler, who wanted to slam the door loudly when leaving. To prevent this, it is necessary to consolidate the forces of the world community against the junta, and not support it. I have the honor.
  43. gunter_laux
    gunter_laux 18 September 2014 21: 29
    +1
    Our Ural Urals specifically denied dill hands! The secret tablet we have sewn in them !!!
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  45. Drunya
    Drunya 18 September 2014 21: 38
    +4
    Stanislav Stankevich also spoke about pits for prisoners in Kramatorsk, where people are sitting, connected by chains. Video of Gennady Dubovoy

    1. Belarus
      Belarus 19 September 2014 01: 12
      0
      These beasts take out all their anger and weakness on the militias. It is hard to imagine what this militia went through and what he survived if he had already begun to want death.
      But I don’t understand this through an overly humane attitude towards captive punishers. request
  46. Zlyden.Zlo
    Zlyden.Zlo 18 September 2014 21: 48
    +1
    That they can use it, because the Russian troops are advancing.
  47. brdnxela
    brdnxela 18 September 2014 21: 53
    +1
    Blue is your favorite Ukruinsky color! "Blue-winged pigeon", etc.
  48. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 18 September 2014 22: 39
    +1
    And by and large the truck is a good "workaholic" if everything is normally adjusted at least as much as the load pulls and slaps in the mud only on the way. They put a carburetor from the Volga on them, they eat less heat in the cabin and, most importantly, there is a solid sofa you can mark. good
    1. studentmati
      studentmati 18 September 2014 23: 56
      +1
      Quote: Siberia 9444
      And by and large the truck is a good "workaholic" if everything is normally adjusted at least as much as the load pulls and slaps in the mud only on the way. They put a carburetor from the Volga on them, they eat less heat in the cabin and, most importantly, there is a solid sofa you can mark. good


      The words of an experienced driver! drinks
  49. Cristall
    Cristall 18 September 2014 23: 44
    0
    oh well ... found something to complain about. Wait the army was allowed to requisition equipment from private traders.
    Our company fit them Zil Goby. This is only ours. Moreover, they examined it in a legible manner, checked it, and sent it for extra. repair (at our expense) and only after that was accepted.
    So in addition to trash in the video at the expense of private traders, you can pick up an impressive army of trucks.
    They there and by their own forces and private masters repair everything that is and what else they bring. From tanks to trucks. I can fully predict that aviation is being repaired for the Armed Forces on Anatra. Yesterday all night there were air and artillery exercises.
    I am silent for food and stuff. This is in the form of a mandatory weekly. Plus free rental to and fro.
    In general, let’s get used to it so much that goes to the army ... tax to an impressive amount of food. composition. A little WWII recalls. But without fanaticism and enthusiasm. Not so idea .. completely unpopular.
    Although here they offer to blow everything up everywhere (power lines and others) in other cities ... apparently to make the idea more popular ..
  50. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 19 September 2014 04: 43
    0
    Let them switch to tricycles. With a scream of garn Ukraine in a ditch ..