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A few questions Makarevich and all Svidomo

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I'm a zombie padded jacket. Who wants to understand your logic. I will explain why we think you are crazy. And you, maybe, explain why you consider us to be such. So, now you will get acquainted with the logic of the quilted jackets "from and to" in summary. I divided it into two fragments, economic and strategic, numbered the links of the logical chain. Agree, instead of quarrels it is better to get acquainted with the opposite opinion. In addition, the quarrel in the ranks of the citizens of Russia is dangerous for its future, and we, quilted jackets, are worrying about it.

The economic logic of the padded jacket. Less important

1.0
There are many countries in the world that trade with each other. The Russian-Ukrainian turnover was more than 50 billion US dollars, he responded to both Russian and Ukrainian interests. I hope there are no questions here. Or are we, Vatniki, mistaken, and trade with Russia, which made up 30% of Ukraine’s foreign trade turnover, was not profitable for her? Or maybe it was unprofitable to Russia?

1.1
Ukraine was handed over for signing a commercial document. We, Vatniki, decided to read it. Or in vain? Maybe it was enough to study the name? "Association Agreement with the EU". So, it turned out that the document offers a number of unfavorable conditions for Ukraine. "This is a matter of sovereign Ukraine, it does not concern you!" - you say. It really does not concern us. But! Ukraine was ordered to fulfill a number of requirements that put an end to cooperation with Russia in many areas. That is, this agreement affects the interests of Russia, the interests of Vatnikov, their children and grandmothers. Therefore, Russia found it necessary to appeal to the EU with a proposal to find a consensus. After all, among us, at the quilted jackets, under the partnership is considered not only the realization of their interests, but also attention to the interests of the partner (see the ideology of BRICS relations). Maybe you do otherwise?

1.2
The EU rejected the offer. If in Russian, sent to ***. OK. Russia decided to play its game by offering Kiev 15 billion US dollars to solve economic problems. Go, unprofitable offer? Or maybe Russia is forbidden to offer anything to anyone? If prohibited, say so. We, Vatniki, do not consider Russia a country that is forbidden to compete with other countries in this field, even with the countries of the "divine West." And what do you think?

1.3
Yanukovych postponed the signing of the contract, proposing to think it over and, possibly, correct it. We, Vatniki, consider it right. Any papers related to money cannot be blindly signed. Moreover, the text of the treaty was ratified in Ukraine before it was translated into Ukrainian. How many people in parliament read it before voting?

1.4
What happened next? We expected that the EU would offer more favorable conditions, there would be bargaining, negotiations, consultations ... No, that was not the case. The EU proposed "American-style democracy", the foundation of which had been prepared for twenty years. The signing of a commercial contract was dubbed something like a “European choice,” “a path to a brighter future,” “a path to the European Union,” and the Russophobia bacillus, artificially nurtured in Ukraine, struck minds finally (I will talk about artificial Russophobia in the strategic fragment). At the same time, we, the quilted jackets, still do not understand how these big words relate to the paper under discussion. After all, if a bank gives a contract to a quilted jacket, the quilted jacket will consider that what is written in it is actually written, even if it is called “an invitation to the world of wealth and bliss”. It does not say that the president of the bank will roll a padded jacket on his Mercedes, and the vice-president will give the keys to his apartment, even if they promise it, but ask for another to sign. For us, Vatnikov, an attempt to push through a contract with such methods is considered a deception of the people to the detriment of the latter. And we, the quilted jackets, once again made sure that the West is the birthplace of such a method of trade as "pairing". We also believe that the Ukrainians are ill with what we had had in the nineties, with blind trust in the “scammer”, who calls himself “the civilized lord”. In principle, this is not surprising for a country that has lived for two decades with a terrible, corrupt and weak government. And if a "civilized gentleman," rich and smiling, says that Russia is to blame for everything, tired people can believe, even if Russia did not repair evil, except for offering 15 billions, delivering gas at a discount, yes, it was the main buyer of a large number of goods .

1.5
Began Maidan. He was openly supported by the US and the EU. And then there was a coup under the slogans of democracy. Openly supported by the West, a bloody coup d'état. We have, at Vatnikov, there was a rupture of the template, because the phrase "democratic coup d'etat" contradicts itself. We do not accept the opinion of the protesters for the opinion of all the people until the voting passes. So says democracy. Let 50 thousand come out, even a million, let a group of people seize government buildings, drive out objectionable deputies ... But democracy involves counting supporters / opponents of an idea by voting. The words of supporters of Maidan "it is obvious to us that everything is for!" Express only an opinion that needs to be confirmed. Someone is "obvious", someone is not. Especially after the recent elections in Ukraine, when the Party of Regions won half the votes, and these votes were given by the residents of the east of the country, who are not less "people" than the rest. Well, of course, some people consider them to be lower-class creatures, "Colorado", "titushki" and "cattle", but for us, quilted jackets, this is called fascism, not democracy (if you take part in rallies that will lead to a coup in Russia, do not forget that democracy will end there, for the coup organized at your rally will not be supported by the majority, that is, by us, quilted jackets).

1.6
Independence was the subject of unrest, but was boring. We have already seen coups in rallies that were supported by the States. “Peaceful protesters,” then a group of masked people charged with anti-human ideology (Islamists or fascists), Molotov cocktails on the heads of the police. There was little new here. For example, snipers who killed people in Libya, Syria, Egypt, and even Moscow 93, under the lens of a journalist sitting next to him, appeared here. Maybe this is a coincidence? We Vatniki rarely believe in coincidences. Especially after expert opinions on the location of snipers in buildings that were controlled by Maidan and Parubiy. All a carbon copy, trite, tested many times. Most of us, Vatnikov, are surprised by the silence of your like-minded people regarding the events in Odessa.

1.7
Yanukovych overthrown. Unconstitutional. Yes, we, the quilted jackets, are probably too primitive, but we consider as constitutional only what is written in the constitution. And we can not read between the lines, so it happened. And in the Constitution there are only three options for changing the president: elections, impeachment or death. From this point on, for us, quilted jackets, the legitimacy of the Kiev authorities is questionable. We do not consider it the power of Ukraine, reflecting the aspirations of the Ukrainian people, we consider it a group of people who sat in the appropriate seats without asking the 42 million citizens about it. We call this power "junta."

1.8
I will write about Crimea below, in the "strategic" fragment. Now I will write about the uprising in the Donbas. So, in Kiev, a certain number of people committed the overthrow of power, seized administrative buildings, drove away objectionable, even if bad, deputies, sat down in chairs and declared themselves power. In the east of the country live people who voted for the Party of Regions. They did not agree with this development. Maybe they were also worried about corruption, but they were not asked if they approved of the coup. Pro-Russian rallies began. If on the Maidan flags of the European Union fluttered, on Donbass there were flags of Russia. If, for the sake of its interests, the EU supported the uprising on Maidan, Russia, as a retaliatory measure, supported the uprising in the east of the country. Mirror. Not even convex. Only with an important difference: in the east a democratic procedure called "referendum" took place. Let me remind you that we, the quilted ones, do not consider Russia a country that does not have the right to respond to the actions of other countries attacking its interests, even if these countries are the "beacon of good" in the minds of some people. We also note that Poroshenko in the east of the country was not elected.

1.9
Kiev launched the ATO. I repeat once again (maybe you have other data?). Kiev. Launched. ATO. And volunteer detachments, as well as the Ukrainian army, went to kill those who did not agree with the current situation and with those whom we, for the reasons stated above, do not consider to be the legitimate Ukrainian authority. Therefore, we, quilted jackets, call the forces of the ATO well-known term "punitive." Dissenting people in the east turned out to be many, on the Ukrainian TV residents of Donbass were often called "bydlom". ATO forces came to the east and blood poured. Russia has repeatedly urged to stop the war, sit down at the negotiating table, stop the armed campaign. Called publicly, many times. The militia was sitting in the east, it did not attack Kiev. But the "junta" did not sit at the negotiating table, believing that the militia should be killed, that she, the junta, owns the whole of Ukraine unconditionally. At the same time, we, the quilted jackets, do not understand why militias are called terrorists. We believe that terrorists are those who commit terrorist acts in the territory of the enemy, attacking his objects, causing fear and panic among citizens. The national guard came to the east and began to water residential areas with fire of the MLRS of indiscriminate action, causing fear. But I got the answer. "Someone with a sword ...", you know. It is worth noting that the tactic of "pour civilians on fire" is not new, has long been used by all and sundry. She is very effective. No matter how the citizens treat the junta, but if they are killed because their own rebels are located in their cities, the people intimidated by death will not be happy for them, they will stop supporting them or will even be driven away. At the same time, of course, knowing who exactly is killing them. Simple people want to live.

1.10
This chain suggests that Russia's actions are a response to the actions of the West. We do not deny support for the People’s Militia of Donbass by Russia. But not for some tens of billions of dollars in turnover, no. There is a second, strategic logic, much more important, in which the Crimean question is also implicated.

Strategic logic padded jacket. The most important

2.0
We are zombie. We believe that America wants to destroy us.

2.1
But it was not Putin who zombied us, no. We were brainwashed by American admiral Alfred Mahan, strategist Nicholas Speaker, adviser Brzezinski, Kissinger and other people who influenced the US political line and the "neo-cons" who are in charge of the processes to this day. What is the point? Western geopolitics (such a science that studies the processes of development of states) sees the world as follows. In the center of the world lies Eurasia - the main continent, filled with global resources. In the center of Eurasia is "Heartland" (Heartland), a certain zone, prone to expand its influence on the entire continent from center to coast, to the zone "Rimland" (Rimland). This means that all the resources of Eurasia will sooner or later be under the control of Heartland and its allied states. And resources, if anything, are the basis of life. Heartland in this concept is Russia. The Russian Empire, the USSR, the Customs Union, partnership with China, the SCO only confirm the theory of expansion of the Heartland. But how to get world resources to those countries that are located overseas? How to get control over Eurasia "sea powers"? Invented only one way. Military strategy, which was called "deterrence".

2.2
The “Containment” strategy implies the process of spreading influence on the coastal zone of Eurasia from the outside, from the sea, from all sides. With subsequent deepening into the continent. By capturing or bowing coastal states to your side, you can move inland, "squeezing" the expanding heartland. At the same time, create buffer zones between coastal states and the Heartland. These buffer zones should be set up against the center much more than coastal states. With the latter, you can successfully trade by sea, they do not have to be drowned in blood (if only those who threaten the strategy), they just need to be put into economic and military dependence (for example, by creating a military alliance). But the closer to Heartland, the more difficult. In the immediate areas, it is necessary to boost Nazism (in Russophobia), religious fundamentalism (for the Islamic south of Russia) and other phenomena that will allow using buffer zones to further weaken the Heartland by military forces, blocking trade routes, terrorist activities and instability. It is advisable to surround Heartland with states opposed to it, along the entire border, not to impede the decline in living standards in these countries and ... Here comes the war, these states will bite the Heartland every day, from all sides. Ideally, of course, persuade the whole ring of Eurasia, including Europe, to war against the center, weakening both the center and the ring, which will allow the United States and Great Britain to take the continent in their hands for a long time and firmly. It is worth noting that Containment requires a minimum of direct intervention, ideally do everything with the wrong hands. It is enough to push, direct, force and skillfully play the processes taking place in the minds of people, to “divide and rule”. A direct clash between the US maritime power and continental Russia is excluded to the extent that the US cannot defeat Russia on land. The United States, in general, never aspired to, and their military experience consists in successful attacks on coastal states using fleet.

2.3
Perhaps these strategists were drunk. Perhaps they were joking. Perhaps America is only good. Perhaps mankind, who fought for resources for thousands of years, has suddenly changed in recent decades, and the mountains have turned over. But we, the Vatnikov, are embarrassed by the fact that the events taking place in the world, both earlier and now reflect the strategy of deterrence. Maybe all this is a coincidence? Can it happen by chance that the US military bases are located exactly on the map of the so-called "inner crescent", coastal zone? Can by chance the largest number of US bases located in Germany, in the local heartland of Europe and the main state of Romeland, whose alliance with Russia is the main threat to the strategy of deterrence, and which is "forbidden" to have sovereignty since the Second World War? Can the Baltic accidentally become what is called a buffer zone in the strategy? Maybe by chance, from nothing to do, the United States laid thousands of its soldiers in Vietnam, the coastal state far from them? Maybe Georgia accidentally became an anti-Russian buffer zone (thank God, Russia managed to create a protective barrier, separating Abkhazia and Ossetia)? We, Vatniki, are not so naive. And do not consider it an accident. We do not consider it an accident to create the US-Poland-Ukraine anti-Russian triangle, initiated by Brzezinski. There are a great many such "coincidences", and in each of them the USA played an important role. It is good that we have a small but powerful way out towards the warm seas, the strategic base of the Navy in the Crimea ...

2.4
Crimea is the door of Russia to the warm seas. This is the first position in the Black Sea. Having taken the Crimea from Russia, one can consider Russia "surrounded by the sea." This will significantly weaken its military potential, disrupt the balance of naval forces, which in the future is a serious threat to security and sovereignty. Therefore, as soon as the opportunity arose to lose the base in the Crimea, what happened happened. The States talked about this seven years ago. The fact that the Crimea should not count, the rate is too high. But how did this happen?

2.5
The Crimean parliament made the peninsula independent, guided by the lack of constitutional power in the country and legislation. And then a referendum was held, in which Crimeans voted to join Russia. Everything was done within the framework of democratic procedures. Why do you call this annexation? We, quilted jackets, looked in the dictionary, and saw that annexation is the violent seizure of territory. Besides the fact that the Crimea was guarded by Russian soldiers, blocking the possibility of the entry of the Right Sector and other armed groups, are there any facts that allow us to consider these procedures as a violent seizure of the territory? Was there a war in Crimea? We, padded jacket, we believe that Crimeans themselves decided how to live. Russia only helped them in the process. Thank God, even if they do not see war now. And what would happen if the Crimea were part of Ukraine, given that it is inhabited by "Katsaps and Moskals"? If we talk about those whom we call the junta, then yes, Russia took the Crimea from them. And, in our opinion, did everything right.

2.6
Any "neo-con" knows that the gap between Russia and Ukraine is a strategic dream of the United States. Indeed, a large brotherly state with access to the sea can be turned into a geopolitical nightmare for Russia. In the strategy of deterrence Ukraine’s "reconfiguration" can be considered the penultimate step. Therefore, we, Vatnikov, this issue is very concerned. We do not want Ukraine to become the main buffer zone of deterrence, that is, a country with an anti-Russian ideology and low standard of living, ready to fight against Russia at least every day, "with all the fibers of its soul." We, Vatnik, want to see Ukraine a prosperous fraternal country, free from Russophobia. But now Ukraine is being set up against Russia by all means, including outright lies on Ukrainian TV, propaganda in the Western media, closing its eyes to the blood-curdling war crimes of the Ukrainian security forces.

2.7
This logical chain shows that the world has not changed. The fact that we live without war does not mean that the world is stable. Humanity has always struggled for resources. But we have them, but they do not, which means they will try to take them away from us. Rather, they try every day. Usually, for thousands of years tried by military and economic means. Again, I do not invent, just retell the essence of Western science "geopolitics", whose researchers are directly involved in US foreign policy. We consider the attempt to blacken Russia and Putin as one of the stages of deterrence, designed to prepare the coastal zone, specifically Europe, either for a war against Russia, or for a blockade followed by a redistribution of the European market in favor of the United States. The economic war is already underway (sanctions), hot has not come yet. If Ukraine becomes under the control of the United States entirely, and the militia disappears, the hot phase in Russia will not be long in coming. We perceive the words “Russia should abandon its policy in the east of Ukraine” exclusively in essence, that is, so: “Russia must capitulate in this war, we will beat more and more”. The US will not retreat, the stakes are too high. Russia, too, for a similar reason. Someone will survive, some will not. US can understand Russia too. But the partnership offers Russia, not the United States. Partnership does not imply dictation of someone’s interests, but mutually beneficial cooperation, rejection of the current, outdated strategy of deterrence and the transition to equality of interests. Well, hopefully, the BRICS and the SCO will take over. This is neither more nor less than half the population of the planet.

2.8
We, Vatniki, from the beginning of the Maidan said that these jumps will lead to war. We have already seen it. And no democracy, nothing bright about it. And we were not mistaken, the war began several months after the start of the Maidan. Now we, Vatniki, again speak. We say that the United States wants to war with the states under its control with Russia, having previously weakened the latter (for example, by overthrowing the Russian government), so that Russia, by chance, does not win this war. But it is better to immediately capitulate to the West, just the way you want it. That's how we live.

* * *

Guided by this logic, we, quiesters, should consider you either ignorant, or followers of the sect "The West bears only good, whatever he does," which a good half of Kiev residents entered, or ... supporters of enemies. Your words about the fact that we ourselves “make enemies for ourselves” are incomprehensible to us. We looked into the dictionary, and it says that the enemy is the one who performs hostile to you actions. Well, if you want, let's call them "good friends", ok. But what will change?

Here, in fact, that's all.
Yours truly, padded jacket.

P. S. I do not watch TV and do not listen to Kiselyov. Unless you understand that we are not passionate about “Russian propaganda,” you will not understand anything at all.
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  1. TECHNOLOGY
    TECHNOLOGY 18 September 2014 06: 43
    -196
    Well, be "Vatnik". As Ukrainians Dill. What was led to drive Svidomo? Pea jacket is not advise. Not according to your rank.
    1. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 18 September 2014 07: 00
      +64
      Quote: TECHNAR
      Well, be "Vatnik". As Ukrainians Dill. What was led to drive Svidomo? Pea jacket is not advise. Not according to your rank.


      Something you are talking friend. Vata formed in the head?
      1. TECHNOLOGY
        TECHNOLOGY 18 September 2014 07: 03
        -92
        There is something. But I will not change my opinion.
        1. Enot-poloskun
          Enot-poloskun 18 September 2014 07: 20
          +48
          It is your right to stand your ground. As in the joke - "Mueller invented this torture."

          In essence. I agree with the author of the article on many points.

          I will add - and the West does not think about what will happen if all countries turn their backs on it?

          Who will supply resources for candy wrappers? Where will they sell their junk? Which forgot how to do something ... They brought factories to Asia.

          So that!
          1. podpolkovnik
            podpolkovnik 18 September 2014 08: 38
            +17
            and the West does not think what will happen if all countries turn away from it?

            Do not think.
            He holds them too tightly and tightly.
            For the bells.
            1. Canep
              Canep 19 September 2014 17: 05
              +28
              I was brainwashed against the Americans by the Americans themselves, the "specialists" who arrived at EkGRES-1 and EkibastuzUgol, they immediately divided people into several varieties.
              1. God-chosen - they themselves.
              2. "Our workers" - the personnel of the state district power station who remained after the reduction from 3000 to 600 people or workers and specialists engaged in coal mining.
              3. "Not our workers" - those who worked in contracting firms, here almost everyone was left without work from the state district power station. And enterprises not engaged in production (repair and maintenance).
              They paid second-class people a very good salary, with people of the third-class they sometimes stooped to communicate, the pay for them was determined at the level of survival. I cannot call any of these specialists a specialist, they are managers. But their self-esteem is off scale. Their (God's chosen) manner of speaking and behavior is often disgusting. At one time, they left more than half of the city without work. And crime naturally flourished in the city, although Ekibastuz was not an exemplary city before. In general, several of these God-chosen "specialists" had the imprudence to rent a cottage and live separately from the rest, for which they paid, they dragged everything out of the house, and they themselves were sent off. Thanks to Nazarbayev, he expelled these specialists and bought out the enterprises, but the residue remained.

              And as for the article, I’m always looking for a point in my reasoning (which 95 percent coincide with the author of the article) in which I was zombified, that is, they struck someone else’s mind in my head, and I still can’t find it.
            2. Astrey
              Astrey 19 September 2014 23: 33
              0
              Quote: podpolkovnik
              Do not think.
              He holds them too tightly and tightly.


              With an external debt of 360 billion tanks to lose
              Quote: podpolkovnik
              all countries
              even profitable and shit them - nice. Opinion
              Quote: podpolkovnik
              all countries
              it is not supposed to be taken into account at such rates
          2. ispaniard
            ispaniard 18 September 2014 09: 41
            +68
            The article provides a good analysis with a share of humor (I would even say self-irony without Imperial manners). I thought it a sinful thing that the article was written by V.V.P. the manner of presentation is very similar to his style of Clarity / argumentation / banter.)))
            And according to "Makarevich and Co." one can say one thing, these people, like our "Western partners" are not very susceptible to criticism, they speak memorized phrases, they bring wording worn out since the time of the Cold War (Look at their speeches, articles) To analysis and objective they are not inclined to assess the situation, and they are not going to either analyze anything and give reasonable arguments what you want, here is a quote from an interview with Makarevich:
            Correspondent
            -You understand that NATO would come to Crimea, they (the Americans) have already bought the building of several schools under the headquarters of their naval group ...
            Makarevich
            -Yes, I know that, well, the NATO would come, well, put their bases there, so what? Crimea is not Russian territory, Ukrainian Crimea and Ukraine itself decides who should be allowed to place their bases there and who not.

            Correspondent
            -You gave a concert in occupied Slavyansk for the troops participating in the ATO ...
            Makarevich
            - I sang in Slavyansk not for the ATO troops, but for the children of refugees from the Donbass.
            Correspondent
            -And in Donetsk will you sing?
            Makarevich
            -No I do not think so.
            Correspondent
            -Why?
            Makarevich
            -I don’t feel sympathy for the militia ...

            On my own behalf, I have no questions for Makarevich after that ... More precisely, there are, but I think that asking them is pointless. Many people call Makarevich and Co-Fascists, this is wrong, Fascists in Kueva and "Makarevich and Co" are Collaborators.

            P.S. So for a remark, Vadim Grigorievich Makarevich, the father of our "Hero" at the front in the fight against the Nazis, lost his leg ... Is Makarevich not liking his father either? ..
            1. kyznets
              kyznets 18 September 2014 12: 02
              +88
              For me Makarevich is not, I do not know who he was, who he was. And I don't want to hear about him! We don't stop at the obscene inscription on the fence to discuss it, do we? No. We pass by faster, looking away. So with Makarevich, I look away and try to quickly pass him. He is a stupid, narcissistic, selfish artist with delusions of grandeur. You can also call it a renegade, but if he has always been on the "other" side, then this does not fit. The problem is not in him and not in other (I do not want to name names) "freedom singers". The problem is in the inadequate representation by our media of actors, singers, directors, poets, artists and writers as salt, conscience and the very soul of a people, country and civilization. Despite the fact that none of them have built anything in their entire life, have not invested in the state (with very rare exceptions) ANY RUBLE, NOT A NAIL, NOT A NUT, NOT A GRAIN, NOT A DROP OF LABOR Sweat. So they promoted dissidents and non-dissidents of the sixties - drunkards, drug addicts, parasites, perverts and mentally unhealthy people (in the majority). They - this intelligentsia stratum (not to be confused with the real intelligentsia such as Savva Yamshchikov, Lev Gumilyov, Sergei Korolev, Iosif Kobzon) decided that they could walk on water. Explaining to them is counterproductive. They have made a choice, they have the right, so let them live with this choice themselves, WITHOUT OUR PARTICIPATION in this. You need to forget about them and that's it! This is for them, the balloons inflated on our emotions, the worst.
              1. krivdaSPb
                krivdaSPb 18 September 2014 16: 29
                +16
                Elegantly formulated. I think you very successfully expressed the opinion of very, very many. Let the princreen of your post be distributed on other resources? :)
                1. Canep
                  Canep 19 September 2014 17: 16
                  +4
                  About Makarevich, either good or nothing, for me he died.
                  1. lupus
                    lupus 19 September 2014 22: 26
                    +1
                    He died for the world, trimmed pace and in the sect of universal liberals he was reborn again under the name Valery Novodvorsky
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              2. koshh
                koshh 18 September 2014 21: 42
                +8
                Quote: kyznets
                There is no Makarevich for me


                Who is Makarevich? What is Makarevich? Zachem Makarevich? Died, so died.
                1. ibnvladimir
                  ibnvladimir 19 September 2014 15: 27
                  0
                  How did you write "Makarevis"? :-)
                  1. karbofos
                    karbofos 19 September 2014 15: 54
                    +5
                    through ".IDOR"
              3. Mig 31
                Mig 31 19 September 2014 13: 10
                +2
                I agree 100% and add to give them a good penal and let them live in their "Geyrop"
              4. Jack-b
                Jack-b 19 September 2014 13: 43
                +14
                Man, they used to pass inscriptions faster, looking away, and now it's time to pick up a brush and paint the fence. And then soon everything will be painted. The rest I agree.
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              6. ibnvladimir
                ibnvladimir 19 September 2014 15: 26
                +2
                Poets and writers are the memory of the people! What do we want to remember?
              7. Terminolol
                Terminolol 19 September 2014 16: 49
                +2
                I support for all 100%
              8. cap54
                cap54 19 September 2014 19: 15
                +1
                Passing by the obscene inscription on the fence, this inscription personally warps me! If I see such an inscription on the wall of the porch of my house, I try to paint over such an inscription so that the neighbors do not see it, because I am ashamed of those who wrote it! And now I am ashamed of myself and those who once exalted Makar to heaven and I will try my best to erase this inscription in the souls and memory of that great nation to which I and many of us belong !!! AMEN!!!
              9. Starik72
                Starik72 20 September 2014 00: 45
                +1
                Blacksmith. I completely agree and support you. Look among this so-called intelligentsia there is practically no technical INTELLIGENCE. So for me Makarevich and his ilk are all the riffraffers who live at the expense of the people and even crap on him, hiding behind various slogans.
              10. efimich41
                efimich41 20 September 2014 08: 18
                0
                I like your civic position. It can be added that if all the media in Russia belonged to Russia, and did not exist on the money of our enemies, then there would be less information about Makarevich and his ilk, i.e. the fifth column would lose its mouthpiece. Conclusion: it is necessary to deprive all media of foreign support, and those who do not agree should close.
              11. semen777
                semen777 20 September 2014 20: 12
                0
                This is for them, balls inflated on our emotions, the worst of all.
                It’s not balls anymore, it’s condoms! Many enti contraceptives annoyed and disappointed. It's insulting, annoying, okay! Talents will not be transferred to Russian land, so there is no great loss. Real PEOPLE and TALENTS go away silently, often in poverty, but they never knelt, did not reach out for alms, did not bend, THEY WERE REAL ...
            2. lelikas
              lelikas 18 September 2014 16: 24
              +31
              Quote: ispaniard
              Makarevich
              -I don’t feel sympathy for the militia ...

              Ugh curly curly.
              I didn't particularly like Bashirov, although his pilot in "Assa" is something - but nevertheless -
              1. ordinary
                ordinary 19 September 2014 09: 46
                +8
                yes ... a very bright actor and person judging by the photo is quite adequate
              2. KAM
                KAM 19 September 2014 13: 29
                +2
                And from me, pah!
            3. Johnny51
              Johnny51 19 September 2014 00: 23
              +15
              Quote: ispaniard
              P.S. So for a remark, Vadim Grigorievich Makarevich, the father of our "Hero" at the front in the fight against the Nazis, lost his leg ... Is Makarevich not liking his father either? ..

              And what kind of parents can “Ivans, who do not remember kinship” have? For "showmen" the main thing is PR. Moreover, at any cost. Aren't you sick of the "yellow press" ?! And for them it is manna. And in general, the best punishment for such people is FORGIVING.
              1. xoma58
                xoma58 19 September 2014 10: 52
                +6
                Well, this is not Ivan, and Abram does not remember kinship.
            4. ordinary
              ordinary 19 September 2014 09: 44
              +4
              good drinks very reasonable
            5. xoma58
              xoma58 19 September 2014 10: 48
              +6
              And why a Jew decides where the Russian Land is and where not.
              1. Canep
                Canep 19 September 2014 17: 19
                +3
                Quote: xoma58
                And why a Jew decides where the Russian Land is and where not.
                We allowed them in 1917.
          3. The comment was deleted.
          4. rhd
            rhd 18 September 2014 16: 18
            +5
            I apologize !!!!! Accidentally minusanul-distracted and pressed the wrong way !!!! Sorry !!! I support your point of view at 100% !!! repeat
          5. ordinary
            ordinary 19 September 2014 09: 42
            +2
            people usually think more about a momentary ... mood ... I generally liked the article
          6. ibnvladimir
            ibnvladimir 19 September 2014 15: 23
            +1
            What does the word "West" mean? Don't get carried away with this. No matter how they try to seem generalized, each of them has their own interests. You can play on this. You have to play on this.
          7. Accent
            Accent 20 September 2014 21: 08
            0
            Who will supply resources for candy wrappers? Where will they sell their junk? Which forgot how to do something ... They brought factories to Asia.


            Over the years, the West has become accustomed to living this way, and they don’t even fit in their heads, which could be different! They consider themselves an exceptional nation.
        2. tolian
          tolian 18 September 2014 08: 37
          +4
          Techie, have you ever tried to change?
        3. Tailot
          Tailot 18 September 2014 16: 11
          +3
          Something with your head, but your own opinion is a luxury for you
        4. lelikas
          lelikas 18 September 2014 16: 21
          +39
          Quote: TECHNAR
          There is something. But I will not change my opinion.

          + To have an opinion is very useful! But on the other side -
          1. TECHNOLOGY
            TECHNOLOGY 19 September 2014 08: 54
            +18
            Yes, okay! I got puffed up specifically! Well now, back to hand over? With drunk eyes I saw the word "quilted jacket" - well, you know further. Blame, I'll fix it, as they say! Good luck to everyone. And Uncle Lenya in the picture is class! then he was still small. On Baikal on the "Komsomolets" went ...
            1. Kindof
              Kindof 19 September 2014 20: 54
              0
              C'mon, drove through ..
              megawatt, you panim ..
        5. nomad
          nomad 19 September 2014 15: 04
          +3
          And no one suggests changing their minds. You just don’t have to lose your head FROM VARIOUS TEMPORARY OFFERS. Always remember the cheese in the mousetrap.
          The article says that not everyone can be "dirty", not all gyrus are clogged with "chupa-chups". There are still many people who think adequately in Russia.
      2. kayman4
        kayman4 18 September 2014 07: 38
        +15
        As experience in the Soviet wadded pea jacket, Afghan or flora showed, it is possible to survive in the winter forest, but in the Serdyukov jacket, the figure is problematic.
      3. Raskolnik
        Raskolnik 18 September 2014 08: 05
        -84
        Quote: Geisenberg
        Quote: TECHNAR
        Well, be "Vatnik". As Ukrainians Dill. What was led to drive Svidomo? Pea jacket is not advise. Not according to your rank.


        Something you are talking friend. Vata formed in the head?
        Putin slaves do not understand! wink
        1. podpolkovnik
          podpolkovnik 18 September 2014 08: 39
          +21
          Quote: Raskolnik
          Quote: Geisenberg
          Quote: TECHNAR
          Well, be "Vatnik". As Ukrainians Dill. What was led to drive Svidomo? Pea jacket is not advise. Not according to your rank.


          Something you are talking friend. Vata formed in the head?
          Putin slaves do not understand! wink
          1. boris-1230
            boris-1230 21 September 2014 00: 33
            0
            What are they feeding you there?
        2. tolian
          tolian 18 September 2014 08: 39
          +25
          And whose slave are you? Or are you Mr. already-ukroevropeets. Then everything is clear. I am a quilted jacket. And you still run over, gentlemen with a bare ass.
          1. gorez.69
            gorez.69 19 September 2014 10: 03
            +3
            already jumping on the mattress member)
        3. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 18 September 2014 09: 32
          +6
          Quote: Raskolnik
          Putin slaves do not understand!

          comrade is not a slave, but you can deploy a thought ?!
          1. Cenij150814
            Cenij150814 18 September 2014 09: 59
            +8
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            Quote: Raskolnik
            Putin slaves do not understand!

            comrade is not a slave, but you can deploy a thought ?!

            Comrades, it seems to me alone that it was self-irony?
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 18 September 2014 10: 39
              +2
              you to whom and the main thing about what?
              1. Cenij150814
                Cenij150814 18 September 2014 10: 42
                +2
                Did I quote in vain? winked
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 18 September 2014 16: 26
                  +3
                  you are not from Odessa?
                  1. Cenij150814
                    Cenij150814 18 September 2014 22: 13
                    0
                    No I'm not a Jew smile
            2. Setrac
              Setrac 19 September 2014 14: 41
              0
              Quote: Cenij150814
              Comrades, it seems to me alone that it was self-irony?

              Yes, in vain the schismatics were nominated.
        4. Iskras
          Iskras 18 September 2014 11: 31
          +3
          And the slaves of America, and even more so! Didn’t forget to jump?
          1. Baloo
            Baloo 18 September 2014 18: 12
            +1
            This comes from jumping to someone else's tune.
        5. Baloo
          Baloo 18 September 2014 18: 11
          +1
          A Russian will never understand a ichshista.
          1. TECHNOLOGY
            TECHNOLOGY 19 September 2014 08: 57
            +2
            How my "zalet" forum raised! Spit, guys! I'm plowing in the potato fields!
        6. xoma58
          xoma58 19 September 2014 10: 54
          0
          Whose will you be? I ask whose servant are you?
          1. TECHNOLOGY
            TECHNOLOGY 19 September 2014 13: 36
            0
            But I'm not a serf. For your information. Hamlo cover when you are trying to talk with the Russian officer.
            1. Bomber
              Bomber 20 September 2014 10: 18
              0
              You do not look like an officer, rather a chantrap.
            2. Bomber
              Bomber 20 September 2014 10: 18
              0
              You do not look like an officer, rather a chantrap.
        7. Starik72
          Starik72 20 September 2014 00: 54
          0
          You are not Raskolnik, but Paskudnik! Let me ask you a question and who are YOU ??? SLAVE - USA and DOLLAR ??? So you therefore do not understand the slaves as you put it Putin and Russia.
        8. efimich41
          efimich41 20 September 2014 08: 31
          0
          Raskolnik is dumb. To communicate with such is only time to lose. I apologize for being rude.
    2. VICTOR-61
      VICTOR-61 18 September 2014 07: 03
      +48
      But Makar became a traitor to his homeland in the midst of a confrontation between Russia and the Mattresses in Soviet times, he would have paid Stalin to mine, he sent Makar supported FASCISM
      1. Armin
        Armin 18 September 2014 08: 10
        +14
        The doctor was right.
      2. tolian
        tolian 18 September 2014 08: 43
        +5
        He did not become a traitor. Betraying something or someone. And he was born with a devotee all a priori. After all, he ....... half-breed.
      3. SPACE
        SPACE 18 September 2014 08: 57
        +10
        Quote: VICTOR-61
        But Makar became a traitor to the motherland in the midst of a confrontation between Russia and the Mattresses in Soviet times, he would have paid Stalin sent him to the mines

        Stalin would send to the mines not only Makar, but also all the other small, maidanuyu shoble, including from this site ..., along with the Dmbelnutnye on the whole head. Yes, Putin is not Stalin, but a pity ...
        ps In general, all this zombie and ever-dissatisfied column of creative criticizing critics, that from the censor, in a country with already prevailing common sense, idiocy, that with VO, with a good example, but all the same crap and trying to break through to the revolution, they are all, they are the same thing and their words and their motives of behavior lead to one thing, to chaos, but to understand what, they lack brains, even now. Ask them a simple question, Crimea-Putin, and listen to their twisting between patriotism and state department ... wassat
        A sensible article!
      4. Cormorants
        Cormorants 18 September 2014 09: 46
        +5
        This is Makar Shit!
      5. Cormorants
        Cormorants 18 September 2014 09: 46
        +3
        This is Makar Shit!
      6. Proud.
        Proud. 18 September 2014 09: 47
        +7
        Quote: VICTOR-61
        But Makar became a traitor to his homeland in the midst of a confrontation between Russia and the Mattresses in Soviet times, he would have paid Stalin to mine, he sent Makar supported FASCISM

        About this fecal "work" (the song "My country has gone crazy") Okhlobystin said goodbye. I don't remember literally, but it sounded something like this: "... I met Makarevich, I didn't shake hands. I thought, he probably fell in love with shit ?. .. ".
      7. Baloo
        Baloo 18 September 2014 18: 13
        +2
        The doctor is right, Makar is .... er. feces.
    3. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 18 September 2014 08: 36
      +5
      Quote: TECHNAR
      Well, be "Vatnik"

      and what personally specifically offends you in this?
    4. volot-voin
      volot-voin 18 September 2014 08: 40
      +9
      Quote: TECHNAR
      Well, be "Vatnik". As Ukrainians Dill. What was the story behind the Svidomo?

      In the quilted jacket essentially nothing bad. Warm clothes for the harsh Russian winter, indispensable for the north. By the way, many down jackets are essentially padded jackets.
      Much more offensive "maydauns" sound, moreover, under the flag of the downs movement.
      1. TECHNOLOGY
        TECHNOLOGY 19 September 2014 09: 02
        +6
        Vladimir, Rodoslav, and everyone! Yes, I know what a quilted jacket is. I myself am from Siberia. At -50 I climbed mountains in army jackets, in early childhood! I climbed from Budun. Well, now constantly poke me. Guilty of reading the article a day later.
    5. podpolkovnik
      podpolkovnik 18 September 2014 08: 43
      +5
      Quote: TECHNAR
      Well, be "Vatnik". As Ukrainians Dill. What was led to drive Svidomo? Pea jacket is not advise. Not according to your rank.

      But in the quilted jacket - it's warm!
      According to statistics, frostbite is much more than overheated.
      1. Ptah
        Ptah 18 September 2014 08: 48
        +6
        As is known, natural (cotton) cotton wool does not burn (it only smolders), it well reduces air impact during an explosion and keeps heat in conditions of freezing temperatures ...
        Therefore - not to be called a "down jacket", and certainly not a "synthetic winterizer"...
      2. 0255
        0255 18 September 2014 09: 58
        +5
        Quote: podpolkovnik
        Quote: TECHNAR
        Well, be "Vatnik". As Ukrainians Dill. What was led to drive Svidomo? Pea jacket is not advise. Not according to your rank.

        But in the quilted jacket - it's warm!
        According to statistics, frostbite is much more than overheated.

        svidomye in winter they will walk in quilted jackets, tk. there will be no gas and coal. Somewhere else I read their memo for those who were lucky not to get into the war, "how to survive in the ATO zone," it was recommended ... to wear a quilted jacket, because a bullet can get stuck in it. In that memo, they wrote that cotton overalls saved many lives during the Afghan war.
        1. Constanta
          Constanta 18 September 2014 10: 36
          +4
          Probably that memo is also written in Russian lol
          1. 0255
            0255 18 September 2014 11: 12
            +8
            Quote: constanta
            Probably that memo is also written in Russian lol

            In fact, neither in Russian yes Squeezed from the LiveJournal of Ukrainian guide on War Thunder, imbued with Bandera ideals. Even after such a memo, they still call someone a padded jacket ?! belay
            Clickable:
        2. dmb
          dmb 18 September 2014 10: 51
          +1
          Well, where is one of our brightest moderators (I mean Mr. Romanov, who is actively fighting for the purity of morals. Something he does not react to the comments of the Cosmos that are directly contrary to the rules of the site. Well, apparently because it does not concern him personally. Speaking about the article I do not argue that everything is correctly stated in it, but for whom is it written? If for opponents from Ukraine, then there are no more of them on the site, and the rest of the forum members heard it more than once, sometimes in the worst, and sometimes in the best performance. at worst, which leads to the departure of opponents. Who the remaining want to prove that they are right is not known. Dear Vladimir Vasilenko, Your opponent certainly got excited about the "slaves", because there is not a word about Putin in the article. But read the comments. .. There about love to him personally, such nonsense sometimes occurs.
    6. Homo
      Homo 18 September 2014 11: 48
      +2
      "Vyunosha", you cannot read between the lines and think logically. And also you do not have abstract thinking. You understand the text verbatim. You shouldn't write comments with such abilities!
    7. Shurik34RF
      Shurik34RF 18 September 2014 21: 52
      +4
      And I'm glad to be a padded jacket and a scoop.
    8. Ural45
      Ural45 19 September 2014 14: 32
      -2
      Well, in that case, you’ve been ranked for a long time with a wooden pea jacket from horseradish unedged aspen boards, and a dill wreath around your neck.
    9. The shelezyak
      The shelezyak 19 September 2014 16: 38
      +1
      captain, you will never be a major (s) Vysotsky V.S.
      laughing
    10. gfnhbjnrf
      gfnhbjnrf 19 September 2014 17: 12
      +4
      what nonsense, to be a "quilted jacket" in this context means to be not a fool, not a Svidomo, to have an education and understand the reality of what is happening in our country and the world. Therefore, personally, I am even very positive about the nickname of my former brothers. I am a quilted jacket and my whole family, and friends with colleagues.
    11. Kindof
      Kindof 19 September 2014 21: 16
      +2
      For those who did not learn materiel ...
      Watt (Russian designation: W, international: W) is a unit of measure of power in the International System of Units (SI).
      The unit is named after the Scottish-Irish mechanical inventor James Watt (Watt), the creator of the universal steam engine.
      Watt as a unit of power was first adopted at the Second Congress of the British Science Association in 1882.
      Prior to this, most of the calculations used horsepower introduced by James Watt, as well as foot-pounds per minute.

      1 Watt ≈ 1,36 · 10−3 horsepower
      1 Watt = 859,8452279 calories per hour

      Calorie dill is 32 kcal per 100 grams of product.
      Thus, in the event of an open collision with Vatnik, with an average weight of dill with armament and equipment of 90 kg, 2880000 kcal leaves the last

      Depending on the power, the gradation is accepted: Vatniki, kiloVatniki, megaVatniki and gigaVatniki
      wassat
  2. Bassoon
    Bassoon 18 September 2014 06: 45
    +12
    So Kukarevich gave out the "brilliant" idea that NATO bases in Crimea do not pose a threat to Russia. But with the Maidan, everything is simple. In his opinion, people went there because they want to live like in Sweden, France, Finland, etc.
    1. DV69
      DV69 18 September 2014 08: 03
      +15
      Quote: Fagot
      So Kukarevich gave out the "brilliant" idea that NATO bases in Crimea do not pose a threat to Russia. But with the Maidan, everything is simple. In his opinion, people went there because they want to live like in Sweden, France, Finland, etc.


      If people want to live in Sweden, France, Finland, etc., let them live. Here the problem is different; these people who want to live in Europe do not want to work in Europe. They want to live in Europe at someone else’s expense, in this case, ours. And when we deny these people the opportunity to live at our expense, we immediately become guilty of all their troubles, which is understandable in other matters, they also want in Europe and we don’t.
      So Makarevich also wants to live in Europe, just like the above-mentioned people. He no longer knows what, but wants to live well.
      Here, in my opinion, are all the explanations.
    2. major071
      major071 18 September 2014 09: 28
      +17
      As has long been conducted in Russia
      Nobody loves traitors
      Come on, Makarka, over the Cheshi hill
      You look, there is someone sip
      1. Arberes
        Arberes 18 September 2014 10: 00
        +11
        Quote: major071
        Come on, Makarka, over the Cheshi hill


        Crouched Makarevich
        Under the troubled world!
        So it spreads in a puddle
        Like pink kefir!

        WELL-FRIENDLY!
        Are you all bullies? Well, I'm a couple with you! hi drinks
        1. major071
          major071 18 September 2014 10: 06
          +11
          Hi friend! hi
          Why not puff it? laughing drinks
          1. Arberes
            Arberes 18 September 2014 10: 09
            +5
            Quote: major071
            Why not puff it?

            Yes, someone does not like our impromptu! I’m even considering going to the eyeballs! crying
            1. major071
              major071 18 September 2014 10: 17
              +20
              Whoever doesn’t like it, let them not read it, or they put the cons, but not in a quiet one, but in argumentation. But you can’t tie it up. Impromptu is a whole genre.

              Makar ran for a blue bird
              Yes does not fit into the rotation
              Wanted from investment songs
              But it turned out the opposite ...
              drinks
              1. Arberes
                Arberes 18 September 2014 10: 30
                +11
                Quote: major071
                Makar ran for a blue bird


                The time has come - Andryusha has cast off makeup!
                What songs he once sang to us!
                Now he has adopted ultramarine color
                We were mistaken in it cruelly guys! drinks
                1. Ptah
                  Ptah 18 September 2014 10: 48
                  +12
                  Ohhhhh guys ...
                  You again organized literary readings and poetry battle?
                  Here you have another sabzh sketch. For inspiration, t.s.

                  1

                  My signature.
                  Are there anyone who claims to be free? Yes, just all in one voice and say:

                  "That's it, Andrew! ... Free for ...!"



                  Very interesting!!! We are ready to listen. Keep on pliz ...
                  1. major071
                    major071 18 September 2014 10: 55
                    +13
                    There is no alignment in the column
                    Slowly "merge" each other
                    Arbenina flew from the people
                    Seen too Makarki girlfriend
                  2. major071
                    major071 18 September 2014 11: 09
                    +14
                    Night. Silence. Underground pass.
                    Homeless people dance to the sound of guitars
                    Concert there Makarevich goes
                    And in the air only the smell of fumes
                    1. Ptah
                      Ptah 18 September 2014 11: 24
                      +12
                      Wait, wait, Volodya ...
                      Give me, give me *** on them to sew ...
                      1. major071
                        major071 18 September 2014 12: 51
                        +10
                        Vadim! Hello! hi Always FOR!
                  3. maxxdesign
                    maxxdesign 19 September 2014 09: 52
                    +6
                    I think in the near future we will contemplate Makarevich’s tour on the ring branch of the Moscow metro .. and Ksenia Sobachatina will dance!
                2. Starik72
                  Starik72 20 September 2014 01: 08
                  +3
                  Arberes and Major. You express your thoughts subtly and creatively, for which I always put you ++++++++++++ !!!
              2. Constanta
                Constanta 18 September 2014 10: 47
                +10
                Yesterday I also wanted to leave the site (and the title is not even yours) ... Then I decided if there is an information war, then who escapes from the front line negative smile
                1. Ptah
                  Ptah 18 September 2014 11: 02
                  +10
                  Veronica! love
                  These "ranks" have already discredited themselves as an indicator of awareness of MILITARY ISSUES. They gave an idea of ​​a person and a specialist in certain industries two years ago.
                  Now, just too much paraphernalia to attract ... Who ...? request
                  Tinsel.
                  Look through the profile for the posts of some "marshals". For example, "Arberes" and "Major071" - everything will become clear. They have been here for a long time and deservedly.

                  And you don't need to run away. Sometimes in this "purely male smoking room" there is a lack of the subtle aroma of female opinion ...
                  1. Constanta
                    Constanta 18 September 2014 11: 13
                    +6
                    Thank you.
                    No, it’s about the titles, I understand ...
                    Here, on the site, there are a lot of common thoughts, and it pleases - the people are in the mind.
                  2. Arberes
                    Arberes 18 September 2014 11: 15
                    +6
                    Quote: Ptah
                    ... Sometimes in this "purely male smoking room" there is a lack of the subtle aroma of female opinion ...


                    How everything is smoked to a mat!
                    This site is rude and masculine!
                    But the female lack of aroma
                    It feels stronger every day!

                    And we are glad to see you, dear women! love

                    Do not leave, stay with me. It is so gratifying, so light here!
                    I will cover with kisses, mouth and eyes and brow!
                    Well, they didn’t have time to come, but they were about to leave already? We will stand shoulder to shoulder!
                    1. major071
                      major071 18 September 2014 12: 06
                      +12
                      Constanta
                      Yesterday I also wanted to leave the site (and the title is not even yours) ... Then I decided if there is an information war, then who escapes from the front line negative smile


                      Amid cigar smoke
                      Where drunken speech
                      You walked past like
                      Trying to lure us
                      And hip carefully
                      Pushed slightly
                      Us poets are not difficult
                      Start and jerk
                      And for a beautiful lady
                      Rhyme go to bed
                      And it will not be in vain ...
                      God bless you! love
                    2. Owl27
                      Owl27 18 September 2014 21: 11
                      +3
                      Thanks for the support! Sometimes it seems that our comments cause a dull irritation in a number of members of the forum. Yesterday I was almost bitten for Narochnitskaya, and I and Natalya Alekseevna got it !!! wink
                2. Arberes
                  Arberes 18 September 2014 11: 04
                  +9
                  Quote: constanta
                  Ohhhhh guys ...
                  You again organized literary readings and poetry battle?
                  Very interesting!!! We are ready to listen. Keep on pliz ...

                  Yes, here is not a battle, but rather an addition to each other!

                  Quote: constanta
                  Yesterday I also wanted to leave the site (and the title is not even yours) ... Then I decided if there is an information war, then who escapes from the front line

                  You did me, dear Constanta love

                  Thank you FRIENDS for moral support!
                  Keep a gift from the Marshal Rhyme!

                  Marshal Rhymes.

                  How many rhymes have I thrown into the attack?
                  Easy syllables go shelves!
                  I have fun friends reward!
                  May my enemies tremble!

                  My soldiers are marching!
                  Letters mint a step!
                  Right on target all the words and thoughts
                  Muse waving a victory banner!

                  Battalions are stanzas!
                  Their accurate system is faultless!
                  I collect armies with a pen
                  Giving them your mind!

                  ALL AUTHORITY TO POETS !!!
                  1. 0255
                    0255 18 September 2014 11: 26
                    +6
                    I envy those who can write poetry good
                    1. Ptah
                      Ptah 18 September 2014 11: 34
                      +18
                      Yes, it's not difficult. There is only a different level. For example, "our" topic, but echoes those characters who have already been mentioned on the pages of this forum.
                      Shenderovich, Makarevich, gerbera, street,

                      These are idol liberals,
                      Power beckons them over us.
                      How are they all so much
                      Make plenty of money. Sweetness! -

                      The outside. Lamp. Pharmacy.
                      Vata. Iodine. Penicillin.
                      Russia. Matzo. The beginning of the century.
                      The Beilis case. Tefillin.

                      Mud. Illiteracy and dullness.
                      Ointments. Warmers. Powders.
                      Royal oppression. Hell. Settlement.
                      Bolshevik circles.

                      Renunciation. Aurora.
                      NEP. Burn out. Distribution polt.
                      Waves of red terror.
                      Lunacharsky. Meyerhold.

                      Headlights. Swastika. Pharmacy.
                      "Foyer!" Shmon in the cellars.
                      Grandma. The egg. The trigger. Mlyo.
                      The conference. Potsdam.

                      Victims of the cult. Cuba is ours.
                      Hum of the Gulag. Mao is the enemy!
                      Space. Kuzkina mother.
                      Corn. Parsnip.

                      Hermitage. Library.
                      Communism is a loud cry.
                      All for the good of man.
                      Personally, Leonid Ilyich.

                      Perestroika Breaking that is ..
                      Pushcha. Voucher. Foros.
                      Pale Mikhail Sergeich
                      In a white whisk of roses.

                      Mercedes Jeeps. Traffic jams.
                      The walls of the ancient Kremlin.
                      From under the Xerox box.
                      Constitution. Family.

                      The clank of the Chelyabinsk colonies.
                      Horizons. Vertical.
                      Temple of the Savior. Polonium.
                      Nakos Yukos! Gas central.

                      Patriots. Mortgage.
                      Bandiuki. Bazaar Station.
                      Again the street. Pharmacy.
                      A heart. Liver. Veronal.

                      The brain is hurt by insults.
                      To the Russians - dislike.
                      Suitcase - Station - Israel.
                      And, alas, the pharmacy again.
                      1. Arberes
                        Arberes 18 September 2014 11: 43
                        +8
                        Here you can feel the influence of the classic Alexander Blok!

                        Night, street, lantern, pharmacy!


                        Quote: Ptah
                        Patriots. Mortgage.
                        Bandiuki. Bazaar Station.
                        Again the street. Pharmacy.
                        A heart. Liver. Veronal.


                        Talented damn it! hi
                        This is yours, dear Ptah (5)?
                      2. Ptah
                        Ptah 18 September 2014 12: 03
                        +6
                        Not really, rather - not at all ... There is somewhere on the network sooo close to this, but OWN. Has changed many times under different circumstances, but the size and style is the same, "Blokovsky". And the "base" is the same ...
                        Like short, capacious phrases. Reminding SMSki ...

                        And long ones do not work for me ... recourse repeat
                      3. Russian soldier
                        Russian soldier 18 September 2014 11: 59
                        +6
                        Quote: Ptah
                        Yes, it’s not difficult.


                        Allow, Dear Ptah, I will not agree with you. It's complicated, damn complicated! hi
                        I wouldn’t be able to, well, if the current is in Russian folk, and even then with difficulty.
                      4. Ptah
                        Ptah 18 September 2014 12: 11
                        +4
                        Everything on a hunch ... cg ...
                        But for some reason, it turns out to be "obsessed with the classics" in case of suddenly arisen circumstances.
                        Like here -

                        http://topwar.ru/55688-prezidentskiy-ukaz-ob-otvetnyh-sankciyah.html#

                        when someone said something like a meaningless phrase-
                        "- SchA the fifth column with ukrotrolly will come running, minus))))
                        - one in the morning, there are no minuses ...
                      5. xoma58
                        xoma58 19 September 2014 11: 02
                        +2
                        Well said.
                      6. galinka
                        galinka 19 September 2014 21: 37
                        +1
                        Only penicillin is not at the beginning of the century (opened in the 30s, widely used since the 40s)
                  2. major071
                    major071 18 September 2014 11: 47
                    +12
                    If poets "ruled" the world
                    Life would surely be different
                    Instead of swearing - only sonnets
                    Instead of a sword, a pen is at hand

                    But this time has long gone
                    Where rhymes wove under the moon
                    And another burden lies with us
                    Be always and everywhere with the country
                    1. Arberes
                      Arberes 18 September 2014 12: 01
                      +5
                      Quote: major071
                      And another burden lies with us
                      Be always and everywhere with the country


                      Very accurately noticed by you!
                      I do not accept the excesses of disputes!
                      These are our borders with you!
                      We, too, are RUSSIA-support!
                3. izGOI
                  izGOI 19 September 2014 14: 59
                  +2
                  You don't need to look at the titles. Over the past half-year, many marshal generals have grown up with the slogans "Death to the fascist occupants!"
                  And further. Please pick up a beautiful author. Beg!
            2. Russian soldier
              Russian soldier 18 September 2014 11: 33
              +6
              Quote: Arberes

              I’m even considering going to the eyeballs!

              Anto some kind of bad fly bit you? Where are you going? And we just let you go, huh? You and Major get great poems.
              We look forward to continuing !!! hi
              1. Arberes
                Arberes 18 September 2014 11: 49
                +5
                Quote: Russian soldier
                Anto some kind of bad fly bit you?


                A bite of an insect.

                An evil fly has arrived
                And the poet bit
                And my soul is sick
                Suddenly a little sad.

                But sadness will pass
                If I'm with friends!
                I stay-persuaded
                How easy it is for me with YOU!

                Thanks for the support, dear Russian soldier hi drinks
                1. Russian soldier
                  Russian soldier 18 September 2014 12: 09
                  +3
                  And rightly so !!! Keep it up!!! drinks
                  If you leave, there will be only "Makarka" left. And then what? belay
                2. 0255
                  0255 18 September 2014 12: 09
                  +2
                  Arberes and major071, maybe you should publish books with your poems?
                  1. Arberes
                    Arberes 18 September 2014 12: 17
                    +5
                    Quote: 0255
                    Arberes and major071, maybe you should publish books with your poems?

                    Well, I don’t know how my Friend MAYOR, and I would not like after publishing my stupid things about all kinds of short-sighted politicians from Obama to Poroshenko, to pass for a sort of untied hang from poetry!
                    All the best lines go in a personal, when it comes to my talent directly, then I can already print good lines (as in the topic today; - "The military operation cost Ukraine five billion dollars)) to reproach me.
                    Well, or when it’s completely from my own nonsense!
                    Thanks for the tip! hi
                  2. major071
                    major071 18 September 2014 12: 44
                    +9
                    Surround sir, well, what books?
                    Poets are who has money
                    What about us? Well, for two alone
                    So, happiness does not warm us today!
                3. Kindof
                  Kindof 21 September 2014 02: 14
                  +2
                  I'll try it too ...

                  Scotland lost to you?
                  Queen is optimistic?
                  That Wang said in two))
                  Separatism is still slurping!

                  Referendum do not forget
                  Anglo-Saxons, your mother!
                  Polite people soon
                  They will come to vote for you

                  Celts in noble anger -
                  Like wasps under the hem))
                  So the Anglo-Queen
                  Buy Validol

                  Such a scenario has been invented:
                  Russia put on the British flag,
                  But the liberal serpentarium,
                  Remember the times of the Gulag

                  Self-rolling, saw "Friendship",
                  Barracks spirit (flatulence)
                  For creativity - what you need!
                  Will instantly return patriotism

                  Makarka for distraction
                  He was thrown into the sacrifice of the people -
                  Just a scapegoat
                  Big fish hid in silt ((

                  Hostile winds blew out
                  AK to collect as - do not forget
                  But now the word is stronger than a bullet
                  You are vigilant, comrade be!

                  Donbas burns - executioners there
                  I want "Quiet Don"
                  Still was read by young people
                  It is impossible - that it was repeated!
                  (C)
    3. Grabberxnumx
      Grabberxnumx 18 September 2014 15: 32
      +2
      Quote: Fagot
      Well, with the Maidan, everything is simple. In his opinion, people went there because they want to live in Sweden, France, Finland, etc.

      Strange! And all my life I think that to live "like in Sweden, France, Finland, etc." you need to work with your head or hands, or better by uniting efforts.
  3. e_krendel
    e_krendel 18 September 2014 06: 53
    +7
    Makar is either a blind puppy or an enemy servant. There is no third.
    1. Tima
      Tima 18 September 2014 06: 57
      +16
      He is a blind enemy servant puppy!
      1. Constanta
        Constanta 18 September 2014 10: 55
        +1
        Oh no! Rather, an old, useless dog sad
    2. sniper_221
      sniper_221 18 September 2014 07: 14
      +4
      Makar, who is he anyway ??? He sang a couple of songs, at one time, and began to blunt!
      1. Alexan
        Alexan 18 September 2014 07: 42
        +11
        Don't tell! In the late 70s "MV" was the banner of youth, the guide of thoughts and aspirations. Andrey simply missed the moment when everything changed: the coachmen turned gray, the halls thinned out. The audience at the concerts was just the same, but with different thoughts. He betrayed this audience, his "flock" of the 70s! The last decade Makarevich spends 70 percent of his time abroad. In Russia - only to earn money. He decided that his sweet entourage from the Bykovs-Yarmolnikov-Tretyakovs is now the conscience of the nation. My instinct failed ...
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 18 September 2014 08: 49
          +2
          Quote: Alexan
          In the late 70s "MV" was the banner of youth, the guide of thoughts and aspirations.

          nuuuu, gentle May was the same "guide"
          1. Alexan
            Alexan 18 September 2014 11: 08
            +3
            This is not about "shkolota", but about 20-30 year olds who went to Afghanistan ...
    3. VICTOR-61
      VICTOR-61 18 September 2014 07: 40
      +5
      And here are the servants of Matrasnikov, look at their faces and everything will become clear how else do we keep these traitors to their homeland, they live in Russia and speak badly about it, and that’s not all the heroes of the 5th column
      1. Lefty
        Lefty 18 September 2014 08: 08
        +6
        And not a single Russian face. Findings?
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 18 September 2014 09: 01
          +9
          Quote: Lefty
          And not a single Russian face. Findings?

          do you think this is not Russian faces ?!
          Russian is not an appearance, it is a soul, it is a willingness to defend Russia, this is someone for whom Russia is not "this is a country" and not "Rashka"
          remember this, because whoever begins to stretch us according to the cut of the eyes and the shape of the nose is also NOT RUSSIAN, because he wants the death of Russia




          1. nimboris
            nimboris 19 September 2014 05: 11
            +2
            Ivan Khristoforovich Baghramyan, Amet Khan Sultan, Bagration
    4. Evgen4ik
      Evgen4ik 18 September 2014 08: 00
      +1
      Quote: e_krendel
      Makar is either a blind puppy or an enemy servant. There is no third.

      This is just a stupid statement. Makar is the man who makes money. There are metallurgists who pour metal for 15K and feed their families, there are miners, there are economists, and there are people who earn millions by pretending to be degenerates. Each draw * as he wants, and I draw * as I want. Everything is fine. Just a business. He has an employer who gives him an assignment.
    5. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 18 September 2014 08: 49
      +6
      Quote: e_krendel
      Makar or blind puppy

      then already blinded by old age
  4. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 18 September 2014 06: 55
    +6
    The main thing is clear that the Russians on their land prevent Amers from pumping profit out of it. That is, they need Russia, but the population is not! That's what a fact it turns out!
    1. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 18 September 2014 07: 10
      +4
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      The main thing is clear that the Russians in their land prevent Amers from pumping profits from it


      Not only Russians interfere with them, judging by the fact that everywhere they go, they pour blood.
  5. shishakova
    shishakova 18 September 2014 06: 56
    +6
    "Zombie" for "quilted jackets" is not dangerous - in a healthy body in a quilted jacket - a healthy soul and a clear mind!
    Everything is said logically, and where there is logic, there is truth.
    If we take the truth from the chaos of Internet lies, then, unfortunately, we have to admit that "our partners" have reached a dead end. I would like to wish them sanity.
    And in Russia, everything is fine! And New Russia will stand, because it is fighting for the peaceful life of its people.
    PS Makarevich cares about the preservation of his capital, and nothing more.
    1. TECHNOLOGY
      TECHNOLOGY 18 September 2014 07: 15
      +4
      We are called "quilted jackets", we call Ukrainians "dill". For the first, yes! I go to the taiga in a cotton jacket. For the second, the killers, in fact, have no right to be called normal grass. But dill is dill. Alas! laughing
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 18 September 2014 06: 57
    +4
    Makar, he will go out and answer these questions with a song ... So at least he promised that if his concerts were forbidden, he would go out and sing to people anyway ... in the sense of ... shit calling. .
    1. DV69
      DV69 18 September 2014 08: 10
      +3
      Quote: parusnik
      Makar, he will go out and answer these questions with a song ... So at least he promised that if his concerts were forbidden, he would go out and sing to people anyway ... in the sense of ... shit calling. .


      And who forbids his concerts? Nobody forbade anyone in Krasnoyarsk, they sold tickets, and you won’t believe they even bought them. The truth is only one.
      The people voted in rubles. Till. And once again he will call the people ... oh, the people can vote with their hands, feet and even, and I think it is likely with clubs and baseball bats.
  7. Grif
    Grif 18 September 2014 06: 57
    +10
    I can still forgive the word "quilted jacket". But "colorados" ... How can one endure such an outrage over the shrine-St.George ribbon, thanks to which these little babies were born?
  8. Pro100Igor
    Pro100Igor 18 September 2014 07: 01
    +24
    But it was not Putin who zombified us, no. We were zombified by American Admiral Alfred Mahan, strategist Nicholas Spykman, adviser Brzezinski, Kissinger and other people who influenced the political line of the United States and the "neoconservatives" who are leading the process to this day.
    So zombies that I want to fill their faces. Right obsession, some kind. am
  9. TECHNOLOGY
    TECHNOLOGY 18 September 2014 07: 06
    +6
    He is trying to understand what is at stake.He does not even understand the question!
    1. kingnothing
      kingnothing 18 September 2014 08: 03
      +6
      Tin !!!!
      Makarevich - In Soviet times, we were told that we are great! But we were not great, if only in size! (About the territory of the country)
      But what about Gagarin? Station "MIR?" Victory over Nazi Germany? TransSib? H-bomb? etc...
      I thought earlier that he was just an American litter! It turns out more and ....
      1. tolian
        tolian 18 September 2014 09: 00
        +2
        Not surprised by Makarevich. Waiting as I get older and other oracles from the star-shaped party. They need PR. They choke without him. Especially with age. Well, remember Garrick, Novodvorskaya, Alekseev, Latynin. It seems to be different in fame, but the same in the way of PR for old age.
    2. FACKtoREAL
      FACKtoREAL 18 September 2014 08: 16
      +5
      he just - idiot ! request
      or - "dilutive" angry
      Pivden gundosy .. wassat
    3. Gorinich
      Gorinich 18 September 2014 11: 59
      +3
      From this interview alone I just want to swear at the old senile. But if you put aside emotions, he is just an enemy just like Brzezinski.
  10. Dezinto
    Dezinto 18 September 2014 07: 06
    +15
    I am Russian! Half Ukrainian.- exactly! I hope my perception is clear to those who identify themselves in no other way than RUSSIAN!

    My mother from the western regions - Lviv, then Sumy region, .. her dad beat Bandera, .. not just beat but served in SMERSH!

    So I’ll be brief - we don’t need to piss in our ears (this is especially for Svidomites)! Then the whole country knew what was evil and what was creation. What sadists did on their heads ..! Those who gave birth, and more importantly brought up! - now new such, this is not a nation, this is not a struggle for the country.
    1. podpolkovnik
      podpolkovnik 18 September 2014 08: 51
      +16
      Quote: DEZINTO
      I am Russian! Half Ukrainian.- exactly! I hope my perception is clear to those who identify themselves in no other way than RUSSIAN! ...

      I am russian too!
      Half - Belarus (on the father), half - Ukrainian (on the mother).
      And my perception is also clear to those who identify themselves only as RUSSIAN!
      her dad beat Bandera, .. not just beat but served in SMERSH!
      1. Oldwiser
        Oldwiser 18 September 2014 15: 34
        +4
        Because he lived his life for good reason
      2. I am
        I am 21 September 2014 00: 15
        0
        Well, someone is tormented by conscience if he did everything right? Well done grandfather. Now there would be more such people to be taught the right things !!!
  11. pensioner
    pensioner 18 September 2014 07: 08
    +11
    We are zombied.
    I was driving here from a business trip. bought in Ukhta on a / in the newspaper "Interlocutor". Mom dear! Under the same cover here you and Akunin, whose article is called "The vast majority of Russians are zombified," and D. Bykov with stunningly disgusting rhymes for Konchalovsky's film, and Yasin, who authoritatively explained the situation around the ruble, and a whole host of sharks in a smaller pen , from the reverence of the creations of which I learned that Russia has no friends at all, and the Chinese use us as product number 2, that V. Medinsky is a rare thing, and Depardieu in Russia has become just a laughing stock and a lot of other interesting things. Of all that I read, I was only pleased with Akunin's complaint that he felt bad in Russia and therefore he now lives abroad. True, he immediately informs him that, as PARTS OF RUSSIAN LITERATURE, fool it makes him very hard. Clown. True, in the photo he looks very meaningfully against the backdrop of his library.
    1. Fox
      Fox 18 September 2014 07: 29
      +9
      Quote: retired
      here you and Akunin, whose article is called "The vast majority of Russians are zombified," and D. Bykov with

      and why is all the "opposition" composed of Jews? is it somehow strange ... or not.
      1. Ptah
        Ptah 18 September 2014 08: 15
        +10
        Almost, but not all ... There is also such as "Akunin" (Grigory Chkhartishvili).
        Such as Lyudmila Ulitskaya "Russian writer ", screenwriter. But for some reason the granddaughter of Yakov Samoilych Ulitsky and Boris Yefimich Ginzburg.
      2. Ptah
        Ptah 18 September 2014 08: 38
        +11
        A Russian man lived for himself - he didn’t. He coped with his problems at the very least. And I didn’t know that he was wrong. And that you need to do something about it.

        Then a "smart" Jew came and began to explain to the Russian peasant that he was wrong and that something had to be done with him, the Russian peasant. Without any sense, the Jew explained it. Simply because of its Jewish restlessness. But the Jew explained this to him incorrectly. Too clever. And in writing. But he could not express it orally, because he was afraid to approach this wrong man. You never know what ... The guy is wrong.

        And the man was really wrong. Therefore, the clever explanations of the Jew did not read. By his grayness. Therefore, he lived wrong. And the Jew with his stupidity completely brought to white heat. The Jew could not stand it and left the wrong peasant in the distant kingdom. But there he did not calm down. This damned wrong man haunts him! So the right Jew breaks that wrong guy on the right road to lead. And I completely forgot about my Jewish happiness. All man re-educates. The neighbors in the distant kingdom began to notice that the Jew himself had become somehow wrong. Like that man. Began to shun ...

        He brought himself a Jew, in a word. And all to no avail. And the man died wrong. But then he died, and then he left the children after himself. Also, of course, wrong. So now a Jew needs his children to rehabilitate the wrong men to throw. You can’t leave this wrong man like that. Indeed, because of this damned man, the whole life of a Jew went awry ...

        Hard for a Jew as always. And now, what a wrong guy a Jew came across! He does not appreciate the Jewish concern for himself, wrong. Worse, she does not even notice the textbook suffering of a Jew. Of course about him, about the man. So dype lives a wrong life.

        It's a shame to tears!
        What to do? What to do?!!! And zohen wei ...

        Morality. And the bottom line.
        There are no cases when an intellectual, especially a Jewish intellectual, liked the people among whom he lives.

        They left for America - they don't like the people there either. "Primitive" - ​​they say. In Germany, the people live very evil, the Jews are badly bullied and love them a little. And even in Israel the people do not like it. Although it would seem that only Jews should be concentrated there. Well, maybe just not so intelligent.

        Is a Jewish intellectual calling himself in such a way that it feels like - to teach any people to which they infiltrated - the right life?
      3. tolian
        tolian 18 September 2014 09: 15
        +1
        I answer - their slogan is that money does not smell. My mother will be sold.
    2. TECHNOLOGY
      TECHNOLOGY 18 September 2014 07: 50
      +1
      Well, Yur-Ukhta it was always something! hi
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 18 September 2014 11: 43
        +1
        Quote: TECHNAR
        Wow, that was always something!

        Hi! hi But so that Ukhta is a reserve of liberalism ... what I bought a fat Komsomolka in the same place. Surprisingly, the patriotic edition turned out to be! I didn’t expect it. True, 80% of the newspaper is devoted to a discussion of the glamorous world, but the trend is obvious.
    3. tolian
      tolian 18 September 2014 09: 14
      +2
      This shu ... ah, I can’t name them otherwise, she lives now at the expense of her products sold in Russia. This is me about the "drink .. tel" So you will think about the benefits of free printing.
    4. altman
      altman 19 September 2014 20: 20
      0
      But they all know how to live the Russian people! and are ready to teach and teach him !! After all, they keep up, and millions of people do not!
  12. Aldo
    Aldo 18 September 2014 07: 19
    -31
    All this is true except for the ATO and the Crimea.
    ATO was launched in response to provocations and "voting" in the southeast. No state will accept this.
    Crimea, it was possible to agree on the status of Crimea, or at least try to agree, they hurried.
    In this whole story, the worst thing is: thousands of dead and a political impasse from which there is no way out.
    1. Number 17
      Number 17 18 September 2014 07: 57
      +19
      I will write to you as Crimean. Unfortunately, then in February in 20 numbers they wanted to push the Slavs with the Crimean Tatars. Fortunately, the bloodshed did not work. It is a fact. If the polite people and the discreet seizure of the Council of Ministers and the Supreme Council of Crimea believe, there would be a scribe. So sorry. Crimea returned to their homeland. And to agree? With whom? With a junta in Kiev? This would not have happened. It would be like in the southeast. Now New Russia.
    2. oracul
      oracul 18 September 2014 07: 57
      +6
      Respected! And with whom could you agree? With Natsiks, performers of another's will (Klitschko, Yatsenyuk, Turchinov), the right sector? And who exactly do they represent? People? No. They represent a nationalist, essentially fascist state. This is proved by all actions. What is one attempt to agree on their part? Negotiations are possible only when both parties, I emphasize - BOTH, are ready for concessions. Ukraine is ready for concessions only from Russia. That says it all.
    3. grog_bm
      grog_bm 18 September 2014 08: 22
      +6
      And Scotland ???? Che there is no war, but Basquiche in Spain there is no war ???? Latent, no one sees, but is it ???? strange logic ..... I don’t understand why someone can, but someone can’t .... a lot of questions ..... or are we not people ???? or are we subhuman .... ???? or we can’t read ... and not only in Russian ?? strange ... or should we just take and believe the Makarevichs and others like them that we are G.A.V.NO, and just like that without explanation, just G.A.V.N.O. and that's it ??? ? So???
      "Am I trembling or do I have rights ???" (Dostoevsky)
      All the same, we are G.A.V.NO .... eeeeeh ... and Makarevich shouts to G.A.V.N.O that we have no culture, in short no one - G.A.V.N .ABOUT
      To eat !!!
      Lost rot!
    4. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 18 September 2014 09: 17
      +1
      Quote: Aldo
      ATO was launched in response to provocations and "voting" in the southeast. No state will accept this.

      can you give examples of "provocations"
      Quote: Aldo
      Crimea, it was possible to agree on the status of Crimea, or at least try to agree, they hurried.

      and what is the difference between the Crimea and the Donbass ?!
    5. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 18 September 2014 15: 38
      +2
      Hundreds of thousands more will be killed; and the way out of the impasse was always visible - New Russia within the borders of the Ukrainian SSR 39 years.
  13. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 18 September 2014 07: 19
    +6
    In 1991, Ukraine had a powerful industry, applied science, agriculture, one of the strongest armies in the world. Where is all this now? And who is to blame for not having this?
    Why didn’t you please the Russian language? That's when the United States separated from Great Britain, they did not begin to disown English. And now Shakespeare and Tolkien are part of their common culture. Why don’t you take Dostoevsky with Tolstoy as part of YOUR culture.
    All that you got, you yourself lowered into the toilet and blame her on this. And all the fault that they stopped feeding the younger brother when he crossed the line of reason in his freaks.
  14. Lyton
    Lyton 18 September 2014 07: 20
    +5
    Makarevich also needs to go abroad, let him live there, if everything is bad for him in Russia.
  15. Krsk
    Krsk 18 September 2014 07: 21
    +4
    I am a quilted jacket ... we are quilted jackets ... doesn’t it seem like too much already? Nat piggy laugh that he considers himself a dill, and themselves? we are Russian ... Russian.
  16. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 18 September 2014 07: 21
    +3
    The containment strategy is described briefly and clearly. Conclusions are made. New Russia live and expand!
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  18. Bronik
    Bronik 18 September 2014 07: 28
    +3
    And let's not forgive Svidomo: "on gilyaka", "female Colorada", "on knives." Yes, we will use quilted jackets, but we do not bomb civilians, we do not burn nesoglasnyh.Makarka, by the way, he is quite alive and well.
    We will not go down to the level of ukrov.
  19. Zomanus
    Zomanus 18 September 2014 07: 33
    +3
    The article is good, but the Ukrainians will not read it. Because there is no "Glory to Ukraine!" For them, this is an indicator that reading is approved for reading by Svidomo puppies. So they won't read it. Yes, and they are too lazy to read this, they also have to think there ...
  20. TECHNOLOGY
    TECHNOLOGY 18 September 2014 07: 34
    +3
    Well, Vatniki-sing?But I’m not a padded jacket and not a colorado. I am RUSSIAN Siberian. If someone has a different opinion, let him start to pray.
    1. Anatolich
      Anatolich 18 September 2014 08: 08
      +4
      laughing Annealed! In the USA and Europe, if they see in terror, they will flee am
      1. TECHNOLOGY
        TECHNOLOGY 19 September 2014 18: 01
        +2
        ! In the USA and Europe, if they see in terror, they will fleeThen repost wherever possible. And urgently!
  21. vsoltan
    vsoltan 18 September 2014 07: 41
    +3
    Quote: TECHNAR
    He is trying to understand what is at stake.He does not even understand the question!

    I did not inspect ... disgusting ...
    1. prio124
      prio124 18 September 2014 09: 44
      +2
      Manipulates consciousness by bringing facts, but distorting their essence and interpreting them in the direction he needs. Brothers, yes, it looks like special training
    2. ochakow703
      ochakow703 19 September 2014 19: 23
      +1
      Scum, and only. He is trying to build the logical chain of his betrayal, they say he is a genius and understands everything, and the rest are dancing to the tune of Putin. You’re lying a dog; smart people haven’t yet transferred to Russia.
  22. Number 17
    Number 17 18 September 2014 07: 50
    +4
    I liked the article. Logically sustained. There are no excesses in one direction or another. Well, dill, challenge. I ask the moderators to let them express their opinion. Let them even write obscenities through a dot.
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 18 September 2014 15: 43
      +1
      They don't come here. Due to the degradation of the mental level. The ukropitheks only have enough "PTN - PNH" on the license plates of their cars.
  23. Borets
    Borets 18 September 2014 08: 10
    +5
    Quote: Aldo
    Crimea, it was possible to agree on the status of Crimea, or at least try to agree, they hurried.
    Nobody would come to an agreement with us; everything had already been decided there; if they had not squeezed Crimea in time, then mattresses would have been there for a long time.
    1. prio124
      prio124 18 September 2014 09: 40
      +1
      According to the plan, it was necessary to "wring out" all of Ukraine. Something went wrong.
  24. Gardamir
    Gardamir 18 September 2014 08: 19
    +4
    People, you forgot how it all began. It all started long before the Crimea. Andryusha’s income fell, they stopped listening to him. And then Andryushenka wrote a letter to the president, as the people did not listen to his great Gus bard, and the bureaucrats took bribes. It’s just that Andryushenka is an ordinary bubblegirl, while the loot dripped everything was fine. And who forgot the grape factory in Andryusha in Crimea ...
    "It's very simple, tales of deception, the sunny island disappeared into fog."
  25. pinecone
    pinecone 18 September 2014 08: 26
    +1
    Quote: Fox
    Quote: retired
    here you and Akunin, whose article is called "The vast majority of Russians are zombified," and D. Bykov with

    and why is all the "opposition" composed of Jews? is it somehow strange ... or not.


    Makark expressed the essence of THEIR ideology as follows:

    Do not bend under a changeable world
    Better he bend under us
  26. mackonya
    mackonya 18 September 2014 08: 33
    +2
    It is a little unclear why the topic is called "A few questions to Makarevich ...", and in general this character should be mentioned less and forget about his existence, because he is not worth it.
  27. Good cat
    Good cat 18 September 2014 08: 37
    +3
    About Makar. In Samara, his concert was canceled on 19.09. Moreover, they were canceled not because of "difficulties", but because tickets for his concert were bought, attentively, by 54 people, of whom 14 were representatives of the local "opposition", and 40 tickets were bought by his fellow party member on a civil platform. Oh how. Don't be shit. Makar. Greetings from Samara.
  28. zllllo
    zllllo 18 September 2014 08: 49
    +1
    The label hung on itself. You really are zombie.
  29. firevvs
    firevvs 18 September 2014 08: 51
    +10
    Hello. I am a Russian occupier. It happened historically.

    I occupied Siberia. Now they produce oil, gas, aluminum, and a whole bunch of useful things. Now there are cities in which there are high-rise buildings. Now there can not sell women for a bundle of sable skins, as it was before the Russian.

    I occupied the Baltics. He built factories and power plants there. Instead of their funny farms. Baltic did high-class radio engineering and cars. I was asked to leave there. Now sprats are mined there, and a large part of the working-age population cleans the eurounitases.

    I occupied Ukraine. And there I also built factories and power plants. Ukraine made aircraft engines, ships, tanks and cars. I was asked to leave there. Now they produce Maidan in commercial quantities. And more there fucking do not produce.

    You know what? I was sick of apologizing for being an occupier. Yes, I am an occupier. By birthright. The device of a Kalashnikov assault rifle, I know better than the device of milk pacifiers. I am an aggressor and bloodthirsty. Be afraid.

    I burned Moscow so as not to give it to Napoleon Bonaparte, but how did Bonaparte finish? I was sitting in a trench near Volokolamsk, realizing that I won’t be able to keep the Germans, where are the Germans today, where is their fucking Hitler? Everyone came to my house. Turks, British, Poles, Germans, French. Enough land for everyone - 2,5 meters each.

    I was, is and will be the Russian occupier.
    1. Alibekulu
      Alibekulu 18 September 2014 17: 55
      -11
      Quote: ognevvs
      Now you can’t sell women there for a bundle of sable skins, as it was before the Russians.
      As if repeat When the Russians came to Siberia in Russia, slavery (serfdom) flourished. And they calmly sold and bought Russian women. This disgrace ceased, only Alexander II, and then as a result of defeat in the Crimean War.
      And one of the reasons for the appearance of the Russians was that they fled "for the Stone" from slavery ..
      Quote: ognevvs
      The Baltic states made high-class radio equipment and cars.
      In the RSFSR, too did radio engineering and cars.
      By the way, where are the "Muscovites" that produced AZLK and IZH ?! Where are ZILs?
      Quote: ognevvs
      most of the working-age population cleans Euro-nitases.
      Facts in the studio, dear .. Are there statistics on Eurounitases and nationalities?
      Quote: ognevvs
      I was, is and will be the Russian occupier.
      P.S. Today is Thursday, not Friday .. You started early ..
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 18 September 2014 18: 08
        +4
        Quote: Alibekulu
        As if, when the Russians came to Siberia in Russia, slavery (serfdom) flourished. And calmly sold and bought Russian women

        learn the story when the Russians came to Siberia serfdom in the form that you are not talking about yet, and we must say thanks to European values ​​for hard serfdom
  30. gaura
    gaura 18 September 2014 09: 22
    -8
    A great topic for conversation with dill and sympathizers in Russia. I will take the liberty of answering the author of the article. I immediately warn that almost all these words are the result of communication with dill and libera, whom I never support. But they need to know in order not to become a thoughtless urapatriot.
    0. What can I say, Putin competently joined the Russian oligarchic system of the 90's, which he did not change, despite all his cries about the struggle against the oligarchs. Then he brutally punished those who went to rallies in 2012. And now the police can do almost anything, but they won’t be anything for it. Moreover, all the problems of today's Russia are explained by the influence of the United States, in short, someone else is always to blame. Especially in this noodle Fedorov became famous. To watch his tears without tears ...
    1. Yanukovych was the Ukrainian counterpart of Putin. And Yanukovych fled the country, what kind of legitimate president he was after that. Moreover, it was he who created units of aunts from gopniks and his cops threw cocktails at people, although they could not do this!
    2. The Russian-speaking population, neither in the Crimea, nor in the Donbass, spread rot. These are the tales of Kiselyov. T.O. Russian troops are an invasion. And the fact that thanks to their ATO presence and the war did not come to the Crimea, Putin, as an interventionist, does not justify. And in general, questions about the protection of the Russian-speaking population need to be solved diplomatically. And then our diplomats have been negotiating for a visa-free entry to the EU for so long, and now everything has collapsed ...
    3. Crimea will undermine Russia's already miserable pension savings.
    4. Strelkov is a former FSB officer, but there are no former ones, as you know.
    5. Did someone call the humanitarian convoy to / to Ukraine? How did they take it and pressed themselves to them ?!
    6. Why in the cities of Russia some kind of hacking collect money for the war in Ukraine?
    7. All the sensational tragedies, like in Odessa and the downed Boeing, cause a lot of controversy and in general it is still unknown who is to blame
    8. Total People in Ukraine fought for freedom from corruption, and Putin (personally) takes revenge and crushes them.

    In general, I consider the stories about the capture of Russia by the US Army absurd. Many of our enterprises are directly or indirectly owned by foreign corporations. There are no national interests in the world of oligarchy. This is confirmed by yesterday’s news about the attempts to agree between our Chubais and others with the Western oligarchs. New Russia also did not conduct any nationalization, and if it had, then in a week it would have been rolled away. They imposed sanctions, in particular, this should stimulate our agriculture and mechanical engineering. And how are the results? In my opinion, nothing at all. The oligarchy rules the ball and it is not in his interests to boost industry.
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 18 September 2014 15: 49
      +1
      in your GDP should now arrange a socialist revolution 2.0? And for what? Even if G.A. Zyuganov, having won the second round of elections in 1996, did SAM give a victory to BNE?
      1. gaura
        gaura 18 September 2014 17: 51
        -1
        At a minimum, Putin must do what he says. Otherwise, he was just a painkiller. And he talked about the fight against the oligarchs, but he only defeated Khodorkovsky, and only because he got into politics. Even now, at least now Serdyukov should be sitting, and he is doing quite well for himself.
        Speaking of the oligarchs. The first manifestation of the police lawlessness that I felt was in Mezhdurechensk after the accident at Raspadskaya in 2010. Then about 100 people died, and a spontaneous rally began against low zp, because of which the miners had to score on TB. Literally on the eve of these miners, the minister who arrived or Putin himself was forced to tell, I don’t remember exactly, to tell what they got from 80tr. Moscow’s answer to this truth is the Moscow riot police, which beat everyone, including older women. It is epic that the Moscow riot police is sent to clean up rallies and riots, because local cops know all the problems and will not beat their friends / neighbors. Now the question is, wasn’t Putin and Medvedev to blame for that event?
    2. Gemini
      Gemini 21 September 2014 07: 04
      0
      Quote: gaura
      They imposed sanctions, in particular, this should stimulate our agriculture and mechanical engineering. And how are the results? In my opinion, nothing at all.

      You my friend is coming ... what do you think that if you collect 9 pregnant women, they will give birth to a baby in a month? What results do you want in the fall? YOU would like to change your nickname to Kesha's parrot, since everything that you wrote above is akin to "Tell me, how many tons of clover from each laying hen will be poured into incubators after threshing the poultry?" ..
      1. gaura
        gaura 21 September 2014 17: 15
        0
        And you urapatriot or something saw in this country? This weekend, swept along the highway along the fields. A huge amount of grain has not yet been harvested. It's already pretty late in September in the yard. Tell us about how farmers began to give loans at reduced rates and subsidies for diesel fuel. I have not heard of this for many years.
  31. AndreyRoo
    AndreyRoo 18 September 2014 09: 36
    0
    Useless.

    1) Not Ukrainians make decisions in Ukraine. They are an object and not a subject of the political life of the country.
    2) Those social and cultural studies (programs) that are laid down in us from childhood cannot be changed. In order to at least somehow understand each other, one must live in the same context since childhood. Learn from the same textbooks, watch the same programs and read the same books.
    1. gaura
      gaura 18 September 2014 09: 41
      -3
      About upbringing from childhood. There are many examples of jumping shkolota in Ukraine, and recently my wife told how boys under 12 ran on the playground shouting "Hit the Ukrainians". It turns out we will grow "wonderful" descendants too
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  32. prio124
    prio124 18 September 2014 09: 37
    +9
    Dedicated to Andrei Makarevich.

    One eccentric with a false-sad face, “huddling” in his cabin
    Porsche

    Said: "I am ashamed to be called Russian. We are a nation
    mediocre drunks. "



    A respectable look, demeanor –All the devil thought out
    cunningly.

    But the merciless virus of degeneration Dropped ingloriously all his gut.



    His soul is not worth a half, Like a yellow leaf from broken branches.

    But the descendant of the Ethiopians, Pushkin was not burdened by his Russianness.



    They considered themselves Russian rightfully And lifted the Motherland from their knees

    The creators of Russian seafaring glory And Bellingshausen, and
    Kruzenshtern.



    And not reconciling with
    narrow worldview, Trying to look beyond the horizon, For

    the honor was considered to be called Russian Scots –Greig, de Tolly
    and Lermont.



    Any of them is admirable, After all, to sing homeland - for
    them the law!

    So the Georgian prince gave his life without regret For Russia
    Bagration.



    Our language is multifaceted, accurate, faithful. Heals the soul,
    smack like

    steel. Are we able to value him immensely And know him how
    knew the Dane

    Dal? Yeah what's there
    Dahl!



    And in our time there are a lot of people with the Great Language No worse than a crest

    Mykola Gogol, What was once familiar with Pushkin?



    Do not bang your head on the wall And furious saliva
    splashing in vain! "We

    -Russian! "- so
    said Shevchenko. Read the kobzar carefully.



    In my heart love
    filial cherishing, All my life I worked up to seven sweats

    Suvorov

    Ushakov and Mendeleev, Kulibin, Lomonosov and Popov.

    Their names remained on the tablets As a true story of the basics.



    And among them, like a pillar, is an old Derzhavin, In whose veins blood
    Tatar

    Murza.

    They go, either servants or messiahs, carrying their cross on
    bent shoulders

    As the descendant of the Turk carried it in the name of all of Russia, Admiral Kolchak.




    They instilled love and nurtured From centuries-old sources and roots.

    He is a Russian whose soul lives in Russia, Whose thoughts are about
    mother, about her.



    Patriotism is not sold to the load To berets, boots or
    coat. And kol

    you are ashamed to be called Russian, you, my friend, are not Russian. You
    - none!!!

    Author: Konstantin Frolov-Krymsky
    Here is a fairly accurately expressed poetic opinion.
  33. Explore
    Explore 18 September 2014 10: 06
    +9
    In fact!!!
    1. Flexsus
      Flexsus 20 September 2014 20: 33
      0
      so it's just glamorous b ... di!
    2. I am
      I am 21 September 2014 00: 16
      0
      fi, what a terrible boobs shake, let shake out again in January.
    3. Igool
      Igool 21 September 2014 03: 25
      0
      Reality is very different from imaginary
  34. valeriyaLera
    valeriyaLera 18 September 2014 10: 26
    +2
    Great article, really liked it! Respect!
  35. solkhat
    solkhat 18 September 2014 10: 28
    +2
    There is no such democracy anywhere else in Russia. Makarevich would have tried to ruin America like that as a citizen. I think he would suddenly find himself in places not so remote for dissent.
  36. Iskras
    Iskras 18 September 2014 11: 42
    +2
    Quote: Raskolnik
    Quote: Geisenberg
    Quote: TECHNAR
    Well, be "Vatnik". As Ukrainians Dill. What was led to drive Svidomo? Pea jacket is not advise. Not according to your rank.


    Something you are talking friend. Vata formed in the head?
    Putin slaves do not understand! wink


    And the slaves of America, and even more so! Didn’t forget to jump?
  37. Cristall
    Cristall 18 September 2014 12: 18
    -1
    well yes. In general, I agree.
    But pro-Russian authors draw a parallel
    Maidan (USA) - relocation-unfriendly Ukraine
    I'm doing parallel
    Maidan-pro-American government such as in 2004
    and separate parallel
    Crimea-Unfriendly Ukraine. And both of them lead to the ATO.
    Why do Russians think that we hate them because of the Maidan?
    We hate them for the Crimea.
    Once Crimea decided so. That is why it was impossible to democratically do all three of them? Ukraine-Crimea-RF?
    Kiev was neither invited nor signed anything. International organizations and countries too.
    No confessions followed.
    Until Moscow comes to an agreement with Kiev on the democratic transition of Crimea, this question will be that spearhead of the Unfriendly ALL of Ukraine. And these are still flowers.
    1. gaura
      gaura 18 September 2014 13: 24
      +4
      And we draw a parallel that there were Russian polite soldiers in the Crimea, but they were not in the Donbass. The difference is many thousands of dead. Well, yes, Ukrainians must first fight, and then howl for decades about attacking Russia. And if the fascist government of Ukraine did not even try to agree with the Donbass, what could it be agreed with him in the Crimea?
      And the first self-defense units of the Crimea appeared IMMEDIATELY after the "victory" of the Maidan. And on February 23, they already recorded volunteers, there is a video. Then there would be no polite people, wang, ATO would also be in the Crimea, and in a more cruel form, because local contradictions are even steeper.
      About flowers is interesting. Threatening again? Again, blame anyone for your troubles, but not yourself. The fact that one third of the country is fleeing from you is probably still your fault. They do not seek good from good. Is not it so?
      1. Gemini
        Gemini 21 September 2014 07: 13
        0
        Listen, do you have a split personality, or does he write a little for you there? Well, a person cannot write in three posts from outright nonsense, to a meaningful opinion, you decide who to leave the clave for :) :)
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    4. ispaniard
      ispaniard 18 September 2014 16: 35
      +2
      Quote: Cristall
      Why do Russians think that we hate them because of the Maidan? We hate them for the Crimea. Once Crimea decided so. That is why it was impossible to democratically do all three of them? Ukraine-Crimea-RF?

      Crystal you seem to be ODESSIT? And after May 2, are you so selflessly and meaningfully talking about Ukrainian statehood and the unanimous opinion of Ukrainians? Did anyone ask you Ukrainians (All) from Kiev if you want to see the current representatives of the government in the government itself? Your opinion now (All) Ukrainians are evidently very interested in the current government ... Yes, and tell us why the previously unknown Sokil subdivision DISEASED AT NIGHT Peaceful protest in Nikolaev, Kharkov and in Odessa ... You yourself know what happened, the opinion of these Anyone in Kiev interested in protesters ??? Or are they not Ukrainians, so that someone would be interested in their opinion?
      Quote: Cristall
      Until Moscow comes to an agreement with Kiev on the democratic transition of Crimea, this question will be that spearhead of the Unfriendly ALL of Ukraine. And these are still flowers.

      But here it’s not necessary to play the hypocrite (who can you negotiate with in Ukraine now?) Donetsk and Lugansk stood peacefully for several months, in the hope that they would be heard and agreed with them. And they were heard ... Thank God the Donbassites had the brains to seize weapons in the arsenals of the SBU, and they did not suffer the fate of Odessa. Well, nothing, but you can roll out the dissent with the army, right? ..
      I read your posts, I see that you are not a stupid person, return from the "Parallel Ukroviverse" and look at many things objectively, no matter how unpleasant it is for your consciousness.
      P.S. I didn’t minus you, but reading your comment (after everything that happened and is happening in Ukraine) was simply unpleasant and strange.
    5. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 18 September 2014 18: 15
      +5
      Quote: Cristall
      Why do Russians think that we hate them because of the Maidan?
      We hate them for the Crimea

      the video was shot in the district center of the Lviv region in the city of Drohobych at the end of November 2013
      and what does the Crimea come with? !!!!
  38. BFG9000
    BFG9000 18 September 2014 12: 45
    +1
    Let's keep a sober mind and not go to extremes. They write in the news that people don’t go to Makar’s concerts. Here you go - almost all tickets have been redeemed. http://www.ticketland.ru/koncertnye-zaly/dom-muzyki/andrey-makarevich-s-programm
    oy-idish-jaz / 20140925_190001-1858031 /
    Our domestic officials easily fall into administrative delight and this is bad, as it gives a biased picture.
    Makar had, is, and will be fans. Another thing is that his stardom has always been greatly exaggerated. I never considered him a rocker. This is pop with rock arrangements. What were his songs "called and inspired young people"? "Turn"? "For those at sea"? Good melodic songs are about nothing. He never sang or lived to "rupture the aorta". Aquarium, Alice, DDT, Kino, etc. will be closer to me.
    You know, it’s funny - I actively attended concerts in the mid / late 80s, I was at the abovementioned places and not only ... I went to Bravo, Auktsion, Popmehaniku, Cruise, Picnic, a lot of people ... but not to the Car once.
    Figs knows, maybe it's just personal and I don’t like Makar. So what - I have the right to love or not love musicians :)
  39. wbigfire
    wbigfire 18 September 2014 17: 22
    +3
    The whole joke in the current situation is that the US and the EU wanted Ukraine to get closer to the EU with a possible subsequent entry into NATO, and Russia had to pay for it all, according to their plan. However, the feint failed, and all three (the US, the EU, and Ukraine) were very surprised and then offended. Hence all their further actions. They still have not lost these illusions. This is confirmed at least by the fact that the opportunity to restore Donbass is "kindly" provided to Russia for a period of as much as three years (in the recently adopted law on the special status of Donbass). The truth is that the EU will pay for Ukraine's accession to the EU, and the Ukrainian debts will also have to be paid to Russia, or Ukraine will not enter anywhere. Can you imagine what money is at stake for the US and the EU? Hence the hysteria, and sanctions, and so on and so forth. Whatever Russia does, they will not stop! Therefore, Vladimir Putin is faced with a difficult task of how to save Russia, first of all, from misfortunes and overcome the internal pro-Western (read - treacherous) torsida, waiting for the whistle of the State Department, of which Makarevich is a prominent representative. So, the author with this caution article addresses.
    1. Gemini
      Gemini 21 September 2014 07: 21
      0
      Quote: wbigfire
      the task is how to save, primarily Russia, from adversity and overcome the internal pro-Western (read - treacherous) torsida waiting for the whistle of the State Department, of which Makarevich is a bright representative
      Yes, what a bright representative he is .. He is getting old, I want to show my significance, since basl songs and cook pasta do not give the desired satisfaction, so I decided to try on the cross of a martyr and a truth-teller, He only "shoots", he writes some letters to the president, he refuses titles ... Shantrapa is large.
  40. captain
    captain 18 September 2014 18: 50
    0
    The founder of the Davos Forum, Klaus Schwab, informally gathered the heads of large companies from Russia, Ukraine, the United States and Germany to discuss what to do with Donbass. They urge to organize a summit of political leaders of Russia, Ukraine, Europe and the United States in Geneva in the near future, PolitNavigator writes.

    Businessmen held an informal meeting on Sunday 14 September. Schwab received guests at home in the Lake Geneva region, a representative of the WEF told RBC.

    The meeting was attended by 16 people, including the head of the WEF and the managing director of the forum, Philip Resler (until December 2013, he served as Minister of Economy and Vice Chancellor of Germany). Germany was also represented by the head of the chemical corporation BASF, Kurt Block, and the CEO of the industrial giant Siemens, Joe Keser,

    Among the Russians, the meeting was attended by the leader of Rusnano Anatoly Chubais, the head of Sberbank German Gref, the president of VTB Andrey Kostin and the leader and main owner of Severstal Alexei Mordashov.

    Ukraine was represented by Natalia Yaresko, co-founder and director of Horizon Capital management company, EastOne Group founder, billionaire Viktor Pinchuk, Donetsk region governor Sergey Taruta and head of KM Core investment holding Evgeny Utkin.

    Finally, Klaus Kleinfeld and Indra Nuyi and Mark Weinberger, head of the audit firm Ernst and Young, were invited from the American business to the meeting. Another participant was the president of the Luxembourg-based European Investment Bank (EIB), Werner Hoyer.

    The participants drew up a plan for a peaceful settlement of the conflict from 10 proposals. In particular, they urge the organization of a summit of political leaders from Russia, Ukraine, Europe and the United States in Geneva in the near future in order to advance the peace agenda.

    Despite the fact that the meeting was “private” in nature, 10 items were published on the WEF website following its results.

    Businessmen support ceasefire plan in Ukraine, signed under the auspices of the OSCE in Minsk 5 August. They urge the organization to continue monitoring in the Ukrainian east until the region is fully secured.

    In addition, company leaders are calling for abandoning “provocative” rhetoric and normalizing dialogue. Also, in their opinion, it is necessary “to determine how to avoid further sanctions and countermeasures” and how mutual trade and financial restrictions can be curtailed.

    Businessmen believe that the international community should guarantee "the security and sovereignty of Ukraine." Whether they mean by this that Crimea should return to Ukraine is not specified.

    Parties to the conflict should recognize the "supremacy of international law over national interests," business leaders advise. They support Ukraine’s right to choose which alliances to join, but they still urge Kiev to think about a non-aligned approach, pointing to such patterns of military and political neutrality as Finland, Sweden and Switzerland.

    RUSNANO confirmed that Chubais signed this document, but declined to comment further. The representative of Mordashov declined to comment. Get comments VTB and Sberbank RBC failed.
    1. Abbra
      Abbra 20 September 2014 11: 25
      0
      The best litmus test for Ukraine will be its neutrality declared to the whole world. Like Switzerland ... But I'm afraid that it will turn into something like Kosovo then.
  41. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 18 September 2014 22: 57
    +3
    The harder you squeeze the spring, the stronger you get in the forehead.
  42. Bakht
    Bakht 19 September 2014 09: 33
    +5
    Starship Troopers based on Heinlein's story has a good explanation for "What is the Difference Between Citizenship and Citizenship"

    Makarevich may have Russian citizenship. But as a citizen of Russia, he did not show himself. And according to the laws of Heinlein, only CITIZENS have rights. Maybe it makes sense to change something in the legislation regarding the civil position? You can live in the country, but you lose your voting rights.

    By the way, applies to other countries.
  43. Kostya pedestrian
    Kostya pedestrian 19 September 2014 09: 40
    -3
    Is this the size of the boots? So children, compared to the raking paw of a samurai soldier, see below.

    Although, the God of ZIL, I would never have exchanged for ude. Let the Swedes drive around in the ude.

    Legkostupova - Drop In The Sea
    I will stroke the sea with my hand, the surf looks like a puppy.
    It’s a pity that we’re in a quarrel, would you be with me
    I was about to cry, but a wave whispered to me,
    That a tear is just a drop, a drop in the sea is not visible.
    CHORUS:
    A drop in the sea, a drop in the sea, and ships on the sea
    A drop of grief, a drop of grief in a sea of ​​thrills and love.
    A drop in the sea, a drop in the sea, and ships on the sea
    A drop of grief, a drop of grief in the sea of ​​sun and love.
    LOSE.
    2
    If there is a beginning of a quarrel, then there will be an end
    And very soon the meeting of our two hearts will happen
    There were waves like mountains, they will become quiet afterwards
    And then we will call our quarrel a drop in the sea.

    Legkostupova: Drop in the Sea - Lyrics http://mirpesen.com/en/legkostupova/kaplja-v-more.html#ixzz3DjmSlttv

  44. viktor52
    viktor52 19 September 2014 09: 40
    -1
    On the one hand, an interesting article, and on the other stupid. The author you speak with a syphilitic who does not give a damn about Russia and you.
    1. Abbra
      Abbra 20 September 2014 11: 22
      0
      A real doctor talks with syphilitics ....
  45. Everest2014
    Everest2014 19 September 2014 10: 11
    +2
    The author, the article is really big and meaningful. But I’ll throw a spoonful of tar, the Svidomites will not answer you for one simple reason, they already have dogmas and they are indestructible like a fork on the coat of arms of a deadly. For them, the authorities thought up close, they conveyed their correct and European thoughts through the media.
  46. Epifan
    Epifan 19 September 2014 10: 38
    +1
    Here, some ukroupertye all can not calm down about the Crimea. And it often sounds that over time it will again become Ukrainian. So I would like to make a mistake, but in the light of everything that happens, it doesn’t work. There will not be that Ukraine.
  47. Signature
    Signature 19 September 2014 11: 13
    +1
    Most likely, it is not a matter of logic (it seems to be from the outside) is the same for all who are able to think adequately. Just the interests of different individuals are different.
    If we resort to a rough example, then it’s approximately like this: in order to penetrate the seemingly special logic of an ogre, one must try on his taste preferences. Obsessively, it seems that the author of this (excellent) article is not humanly prepared to try on the taste preferences of his chosen opponent.
    Do you want that to whom you felt (or even continue to feel) sympathy, would switch to the righteous side? Good wish. But on the righteous side there is room only for the righteous: to everyone else, it seems to be a scorched desert or a May Day manifestation of times disregarded by them
    "Soviet era". When parents divorce, children always suffer. But rarely do any marriages fail just because of this.
    (If it happened without interruptions, - I beg you not to nurture the insult!)
  48. kvm11
    kvm11 19 September 2014 12: 40
    +5
    Quote: Cristall
    Until Moscow comes to an agreement with Kiev on the democratic transition of Crimea, this question will be that spearhead of the Unfriendly ALL of Ukraine. And these are still flowers.

    No one will negotiate with the staff of the states. And Crimea was, is and will be Russian.
  49. Antropos
    Antropos 19 September 2014 13: 50
    +2
    A couple of replicas.
    A war for resources is inevitable. More recently, it was cheaper to buy resources than to conquer and mine ourselves. But Int. Fin the crisis put everything back in place. Unlimited printing of money is impossible, therefore the necessary can and must be taken by force. The only difference from the Middle Ages is a lot of literate ones, and they need to be motivated. For example, talking about insufficient democracy in countries where there are resources. And we have the entire periodic table.
    Makarevich has always been a troll of power. Just this time, his views did not coincide with the views of the majority. The bad news is that instead of the usual Aesopian language, he began to use direct harsh rhetoric. Lowering level. Appeared apparently. Possible personal resentment for his Crimean business (probably hurt). In general, it will be useful, as before, if the boundary of decency is not crossed, like Shenderovich, the late babaler, and other Svanidza.
  50. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 19 September 2014 14: 02
    +2
    I admit honestly - I'm a democrat.
    Those. if Makarevich has a different opinion from mine .. and to hell with him! Moreover, I do not consider it necessary to communicate with him, to ask something, to try to prove my case. Well, you don’t think you need to prove to the client of the madhouse that he is not Napoleon Bonaparte or the Holy Virgin Mary, right? This is the business of the madhouse medics.
    You are turning on logic, trying to get through to his brains and hearts ... but what if he doesn't have a heart and brains? That is, they seem to be in place, but washed out with a special patented Western liquid - "hatred of Russians" is called. And a person seems to live in Russia, loot Russian loot, but everything here is bad for him, everything stinks, everything and his soul can only rest in Israel. Well, or in America - there seems to be less "Russian" cattle. Why in quotes? Because he doesn't really like his Jewish brother either.
    By the way, as a true democrat - I also think that not everything is very good in Russia ...
    I’ll tell you a lot more, I’m not happy with everything: corruption and privatization and the courts are wrong and the term is immeasurable and the police (not to mention it by night) ..
    But to communicate, for example, with Hitler and try to inform him, to persuade him - please do not consider the Slavic people as subhuman and do not destroy small children, old people and women ... I will not! And I do not advise you - this is not a thankful job, you can gas chamber to get, or under the ATO.
    And what is better than the Kiev junta Hitler? And her admirers, like Makarevich, are better than Leni Riefenstahl?
    The Kiev junta does not destroy the Jews so far? Is Kolomoisky alive and thriving? Well, for now ... I think they will destroy the Russians and take up the Jews. Let Makarevich have no doubt.
    But frankly, this does not bother me. That is, not the state and quantity of the brain substance in Makarevich, Albats, or Latin. Well them! In the end (from end to end) I’m a democrat and let them try everything they want ... Well, they hate everything Russian! What can you do here? You will not be forcibly sweet.
    However - they eat, they drink from "my" hands. Yes, and in the same hands and shit! Again, the quotes are here because the great state campaign Gazikprom owns a large block of shares, for example, Echo of Moscow, and it seems that it is not appropriate to shit on Russia (including me) under its wing. But "gazik" is neither ear nor snout ... Why is this?
    And this is because, I believe, that in today's Russia a lot of "Makarevichs" have settled in the power structures. And not everyone is happy that they will soon be screwed on their tail. Moreover, it's a pity that the Russians themselves will not screw it. And their disgruntled patrons are in the west.
    But they are afraid of the West, but they hate the Russians!
    I really think the draft Law on the titular nations of Russia was true. And about their representatives in government.
    It’s a pity they didn’t accept it .. probably the "Makarevichi" didn’t miss it. They smell fried.