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The Americans bought all the AK-47 and now resell each other at twice the inflated price

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Sanctions against Russian defense enterprises, including the Kalashnikov concern, have seriously increased the market value of goods produced in Russia weapons in the US market, broadcast channel RT, with reference to ITAR-TASS.



“The average price of a civilian version of the Kalashnikov assault rifle already reaches $ 1,5 thousand, although several months ago this weapon cost about $ 600 on the American market”- said the trade representative of the Russian Federation in the United States, Alexander Stradnik.

"The fact is that in early September of this year, American dealers reported on the full sale of this type of weapon- he explained. - Now Americans, who acquire the legendary machine gun, both as a souvenir and as an investment, prefer to acquire products manufactured in the Russian Federation, and not its European counterparts. As a result, an active resale of Kalashnikov began on the market. ”

According to Stradnik, in recent years, exports of the Kalashnikov concern to the United States consisted half of the civilian versions of AK-47.
"Kalashnikov is very much appreciated among American collectors of small arms and sports weapons," said the trade representative. “At the same time, many Americans view it as an object for investment.”

European copies of the machine continue to flow to America, but the demand for them is small.

Vice President of RWC. dealing with the import of weapons said about this: “Russian originals are considered the best of the best. You can draw an analogy with wine. What comes to mind when you think about wine? It is French drinks. It's the same here. They are the best because they are originals. ”

Having learned about the sanctions, some Americans managed to acquire several dozens of machine guns. Now on the Internet you can find the following ads of private sellers: “This weapon is prohibited for official sale! Hurry up to get as long as you have the opportunity. "
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  1. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 16 September 2014 17: 14
    +23
    Well, the Americans have experienced what AK is in their own skin and now they understand what a good weapon is:




    However, they do not refuse PPSh:



    1. Obliterator
      Obliterator 16 September 2014 17: 18
      +13
      Quote: Novel 1977
      Well, the Americans have experienced what AK is in their own skin and now they understand what a good weapon is:

      However, they do not refuse PPSh:

      These are just poser pictures, no more. The American army is fighting all the same only with standard weapons.
      1. VICTOR-61
        VICTOR-61 16 September 2014 17: 22
        +4
        That's how valued Kalashnikov all get it, even mattresses appreciated not just their shnu
        1. enot73
          enot73 16 September 2014 17: 32
          +7
          And not only Kalashchi
      2. Kasym
        Kasym 16 September 2014 17: 37
        +12
        OBLITER. Americas. special forces, leaving behind enemy lines, take precisely Kalash. Because of reliability, and so that when shooting, do not give out yourself by the sound of shots. So for sabotage and reconnaissance groups it is almost a regular weapon.
        And the legend of reliability, frankly, was not invented by us, namely by the Americans in Vietnam. And the demand in their market says a lot. hi
        1. subbtin.725
          subbtin.725 16 September 2014 17: 43
          +10
          It is not in vain that Mikhail Timofeevich, Hero of Socialist Labor was given .., deserved it.
          1. Roman 1977
            Roman 1977 16 September 2014 17: 46
            +16
            Damn, what do they make of the "old man" SCS - "candy"



            1. enot73
              enot73 16 September 2014 18: 00
              +9
              They do not forget about Mosinka either. Do not forget the PM. If you choose one of the best-selling pistols in the United States, then that pistol would probably be a Makarov pistol imported from Russia. PM is produced under the original 9 mm cartridge. Makarov or .380 ACP cartridge and sells for under $ 230.
              Not so long ago, the search for ammunition remained the main problem for pistol owners, who had to be content with Chinese-made cartridges with unreliable Berdan capsules that were unreliable and corroded. Now the 9x18 Makarov cartridge is produced by several American firms. An even wider selection of cartridges, bullets, capsules for lovers of home equipment cartridges, which is very popular in the USA, because allows you to save money and get moral satisfaction with hinges of gunpowder, a choice of bullets, etc.
              1. Basarev
                Basarev 16 September 2014 18: 27
                +4
                As for the special weapon tuning: has anyone heard of modifications to PPS-43? Still, the best submachine gun of the Second World War, a legend after all.
              2. Per se.
                Per se. 16 September 2014 18: 38
                +8
                Quote: enot73
                They do not forget about Mosinka either. Do not forget the PM.
                Well, then you should remember about RPD. It is a pity that a lot of us have been undeservedly forgotten, and the Yankees act here more wisely.
              3. s1н7т
                s1н7т 16 September 2014 18: 47
                +4
                I love Makarov, however. "Yuzal" 10 years - not a single refusal! Neither the PM nor the PB.
                "Soviet means the best!" (C) drinks
                1. Tyumen
                  Tyumen 16 September 2014 20: 05
                  0
                  Quote: c1n7
                  Neither PM nor PB.

                  PB is Baryshev’s pistol, or ... Maybe clarify?
                  1. bullet
                    bullet 16 September 2014 20: 25
                    +1
                    PB (index 6P9) - a pistol for low-noise and flameless firing, created on the basis of the PM. Googling ...
                    1. s1н7т
                      s1н7т 17 September 2014 15: 15
                      +1
                      "+" for knowing the materiel! drinks laughing
                      1. bullet
                        bullet 17 September 2014 23: 14
                        0
                        A good gun, only the mesh roll burns out quickly ...
              4. enot73
                enot73 16 September 2014 18: 49
                +2
                To the heap. TUNING AK-47 AKM AK-74 / AK-47 AND AK-74 TUNING AND REVIEW In my opinion, the Americans went crazy on the "toughness" of the weapon, not its functionality.
                1. sandrmur76
                  sandrmur76 16 September 2014 22: 00
                  +1
                  They do it beautifully without a doubt. But that’s not all. On the battlefield, don’t (grab)! And don’t screw the picato bar into the skull. In a real battle, all this hinged ears can lead to dirt in the mud. what
            2. Proud.
              Proud. 16 September 2014 19: 26
              +2
              Quote: Novel 1977
              Damn, what do they make of the "old man" SCS - "candy"

              Oh good, infection!
              1. enot73
                enot73 16 September 2014 20: 01
                +5
                Quote: Be proud.
                Damn, what do they make of the "old man" SCS - "candy"

                Quote: Be proud.
                Oh good, infection!
                And somehow the original, without alterations, is closer to me.
                1. Proud.
                  Proud. 16 September 2014 22: 46
                  +1
                  Quote: enot73
                  And somehow the original, without alterations, is closer to me.

                  He served with him for two years. In air defense. In training, he was with a bayonet.
            3. Monge
              Monge 17 September 2014 12: 11
              0
              Damn, what do they make of the "old man" SCS - "candy"
              They supplied SCS from the warehouses of production of the 50s. The quality is according to the time. The cartridge 7.62 * 39 for the carbine is still rather weak, 7.62 * 54 is more preferable.
        2. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov 16 September 2014 18: 00
          +13
          Quote: Kasym
          OBLITER. Americas. special forces, leaving behind enemy lines, take precisely Kalash. Because of reliability, and so that when shooting, do not give out yourself by the sound of shots. So for sabotage and reconnaissance groups it is almost a regular weapon.
          And the legend of reliability, frankly, was not invented by us, namely by the Americans in Vietnam. And the demand in their market says a lot. hi

          I spread it already .. but I think in the subject!
          Vietnam ... A group of American special forces sneaks through the swamps in the jungle of Vietnam .. damp stuffiness of midges .. Suddenly, at the command of the leader, everyone freezes .. A swollen corpse lies face down in front (in a half-rotted form, a Viet Cong man) A decision is made to search him for documents, etc. .d. naturally, being afraid of the bookmark placed under the corpse, they do it at a distance (with the help of a rope) silence .. they slowly approach ... in the clenched hands of the deceased soldier they see the Kalashnikovs covered in mud, worms and mud .. One of the special forces officers disdainfully takes a machine gun shakes it off of mud and worms .. "Oh Russian machine gun heh heh ..." examines it attentively twitches the bolt and with a smile presses the trigger .. an automatic fire is heard .. The whole group from surprise and shock immediately fell flat on the swamp slush ... leads in the deserts and in the cold .. That's something I wanted to convey ..
          1. Djozz
            Djozz 16 September 2014 19: 15
            +6
            The trigger is not pulled, it is cocked or released, but the trigger is pulled, and also "marshal" learn materiel!
            1. Vitaly Anisimov
              Vitaly Anisimov 16 September 2014 19: 59
              +3
              Quote: Djozz
              The trigger is not pulled, it is cocked or released, but the trigger is pulled, and also "marshal" learn materiel!

              Don’t find fault .. (although you’re right) The main point is .. If you describe everything based on the mat part and technical, medical terms .. (how to serve or the conclusion of a pathologist and technical expert, etc.) It was dry and not interesting would .. I still had grammatical errors ... laughing So do not be a bore ..))) hi
              1. Djozz
                Djozz 17 September 2014 10: 26
                +1
                I don’t quibble, it just cuts my ears.
          2. IgorV
            IgorV 16 September 2014 20: 00
            +2
            Who watched the film "Lethal Weapon 3", so there is also a good advertisement for our Kalash where Mel Gibson fought in the narrow-eyed in the water, and then picked up a Kalashnikov and released his head into the narrow-eyed under water. A great advertisement for our legendary slot machine.
        3. Zymran
          Zymran 16 September 2014 19: 52
          +2
          Quote: Kasym
          OBLITER. Americas. special forces, leaving behind enemy lines, take precisely Kalash. Because of reliability, and so that when shooting, do not give out yourself by the sound of shots.


          In my opinion these are patriotic tales.

          Quote: Kasym
          And the legend of reliability, frankly, was not invented by us, namely by the Americans in Vietnam. And the demand in their market says a lot. hi


          And this is true. Moreover, not only in Vietnam, but also in the Arab-Israeli wars, AK was superior to FN FAL, though this still did not help.
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    3. Civil
      Civil 16 September 2014 17: 40
      +3
      The Americans bought all the AK-47 and now resell each other at twice the inflated price

      and in our market they sell kiwi for 250 rubles and pears for 150, and apples for at least 100 ... Americans bastards! Huckster
    4. VOLCHOXURAL
      VOLCHOXURAL 16 September 2014 18: 28
      +12
      Quote: Novel 1977
      However, they do not refuse from PPSh: [/ center]


      hi soldier
    5. jovanni
      jovanni 16 September 2014 19: 37
      0
      And the girl was given some mutilated and heavy fool ... Discrimination, damn it ...
  2. navara399
    navara399 16 September 2014 17: 16
    +18
    In vain stocking up, we will bring a lot with us soon.
    1. Akvadra
      Akvadra 16 September 2014 17: 25
      +9
      We’ll not only bring it, but also bring it, and we will arrive and sail! Get ready to take back all the small arms. Matches, children are not a toy!
  3. Petrucho
    Petrucho 16 September 2014 17: 16
    +7
    Americans are such Americans! lol Loot steers them. Although we must pay tribute, they understand good weapons!
    1. sgazeev
      sgazeev 16 September 2014 18: 24
      +1
      Quote: Petrucho
      Americans are such Americans! lol Loot steers them. Although we must pay tribute, they understand good weapons!

      If you put Kalash with our baby and he’ll be better at sorting it out. laughing
  4. i80186
    i80186 16 September 2014 17: 17
    +17
    The Lord created people, and Colonel Colt made them equal. Senior sergeant Kalashnikov went further: he equalized not only people, but entire states.(C)
    1. Naum
      Naum 16 September 2014 17: 46
      +5
      I would also like to "equalize" America! In the United States, a huge number of barrels have accumulated on their hands, it would be time for them to start shooting! Such a civil war would be brewed between whites and blacks, Indians and Asians. For the independence of Texas, against gays and lesbians, for freedom for manki (tolerance), etc. There are a lot of reasons! M. b. then they will take care of their country and stop poking their noses (and not only) into other people's affairs, into other countries of the world. Plugs into all the holes! Its ...
  5. Stalker
    Stalker 16 September 2014 17: 18
    +10
    Now they understand what a good weapon is:

    Good weapons exist only in Russian production !!!!


    Even the modernized tanks (see photo) dill lose !!! laughing
    1. Obliterator
      Obliterator 16 September 2014 17: 21
      +3
      Quote: Stalker
      Good weapons exist only in Russian production !!!!

      Not only. The Germans (and the rest of Europe) and the Americans also make wonderful weapons.
      1. Stalker
        Stalker 16 September 2014 17: 28
        +2
        Americans also make wonderful weapons.

        M-16 ?? laughing
        1. s1н7т
          s1н7т 16 September 2014 18: 51
          +4
          Quote: Stalker
          Americans also make wonderful weapons.

          M-16 ?? laughing

          Bucks. laughing drinks
        2. Vasek
          Vasek 16 September 2014 18: 51
          0
          Quote: Stalker
          M-16 ??

          It is rather an exception.
          But nobody does better than them.
          Speaking of others, I really like the approach to pistols among Czechs and Austrians. Although, Belgium and Italy are not far behind ...
          But, among the assault rifles (assault rifles), Kalash is the undoubted champion! hi
          1. Stalker
            Stalker 16 September 2014 20: 34
            0
            But nobody does better than them.

            The talk is not about self-defense bullets !!!

            WHO dares to say that the M-16 is better than KALASH ???? And you tell me about revolvers ..... fool
            1. Vasek
              Vasek 16 September 2014 20: 46
              0
              Quote: Stalker
              WHO dares to say that the M-16 is better than KALASH ????

              What is the point of arguing for the sake of argument?
              Try to read to the end my previous comment.
              1. Stalker
                Stalker 16 September 2014 21: 12
                0
                Try to read to the end my previous comment.

                And you hi read mine first !!!! hi
                1. Vasek
                  Vasek 16 September 2014 23: 42
                  +1
                  Quote: Stalker
                  The talk is not about self-defense bullets !!!

                  Isn't it a bit much for self-defense?
                  (And as for Kalash, I don’t see any disagreements. I spent four years in college embracing with AKM. My memories are the warmest, and he is, in my opinion, the most beautiful of all AKs).
                  1. Kir
                    Kir 17 September 2014 04: 48
                    0
                    The above is clearly a 3D model.
        3. zennon
          zennon 16 September 2014 18: 58
          +1
          Quote: Stalker
          Americans also make wonderful weapons.

          M-16 ?? laughing
          1. Tyumen
            Tyumen 16 September 2014 20: 13
            0
            I don’t understand, is it Colt Python?
            1. zennon
              zennon 16 September 2014 20: 51
              0
              Quote: Tyumen
              I don’t understand, is it Colt Python?

              Well yes. Good dog ...
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        4. Obliterator
          Obliterator 16 September 2014 22: 31
          -1
          Quote: Stalker
          M-16 ??

          Do you only know him? You don’t have to go far for examples. https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_700
      2. goose
        goose 16 September 2014 17: 35
        +4
        European copies did not even come close in quality to the original, it is very noticeable in the quality of manufacture of both the barrel and other parts.
        It can be seen by the resource, the change in accuracy, the survivability of the moving parts, the strength of the receiver.
        A special film was released in the United States, where the shooting instructor clearly explains why Kalashnikov is better and why it is from Russia. The main chip, of course, ammo, the quality and cost of the barrel in second place. The average American shooter spends about 1500 rounds per year. So calculate the cost of shooting + the required resource.
  6. Dmitry 2246
    Dmitry 2246 16 September 2014 17: 19
    +2
    Buy our machines and Mexico is a good business.
  7. e_krendel
    e_krendel 16 September 2014 17: 19
    +7
    Our commerce needs to organize shopping tours to Russia for amers, especially for Kalash. And in turn them, and not more than 10 pieces in hand! wassat
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 16 September 2014 17: 33
      +3
      The idea is good, only importing weapons from abroad is allowed exclusively by federally licensed arms dealers. And to get such a license, you need to spend too much time and money, so that it justifies itself for those who buy trunks only occasionally.
    2. Rocket
      Rocket 16 September 2014 17: 46
      +2
      Our commerce needs to organize shopping tours to Russia for amers, especially for Kalash. And in turn them, and not more than 10 pieces in hand!

      Better in bursts. am
    3. Basarev
      Basarev 16 September 2014 18: 33
      +3
      But what if you terminate the old machines from the warehouses - the very ones who prevent the adoption of either the AK-12, or the A-545?
    4. s1н7т
      s1н7т 16 September 2014 18: 54
      +2
      Quote: e_krendel
      Our business needs to organize

      dispossession.
      The rest without them we will solve.
  8. Lukerya Weaver
    Lukerya Weaver 16 September 2014 17: 19
    +4
    Oh how! Speculation however. The smartest Americans are making money.
    1. zennon
      zennon 16 September 2014 19: 02
      0
      Quote: Weaker Lukerya
      Oh how! Speculation however. The smartest Americans are making money.

      No, this is a commerce. Speculation is the income from changing the exchange rate. Normal business. In a number of countries (Holland for example), the commerce is taught in schools.
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 16 September 2014 17: 22
    +4
    A good weapon is a fail-safe weapon. All the same, an assault rifle is not a sniper rifle, but a weapon of millions, and its simplicity and reliability is more important than accuracy at long distances. Maxim Kalashnikov had a "spark of God" and knew what and how to do.
    1. Basarev
      Basarev 16 September 2014 18: 51
      +1
      In general, my opinion about trade is that it would be nice to sell a gigantic amount of AKs to the Americans in some roundabout way. And ourselves - to re-equip on the modernized TKB-022PM Model 2. After all, it has a lot of advantages. It is compact - due to its ultra-bullpup layout, it is arguably the shortest full-length rifle. It is light - it weighed 2,34 kg, I think it will become lighter with modernization and will weigh only a little more than 2 kg and will thus become, probably, the lightest machine. TKB-022PM # 2 is accurate - when using the same cartridge, it exceeded the AKM in accuracy three times. I believe that after the modernization, this gap will increase even more and the machine gun will surpass the M16 in accuracy, thus depriving it of its last advantage. In addition, TKB-022PM №2 is devoid of the main drawback of bullpup in the face of hitting a cartridge case in the face when firing from the left hand - it has a cartridge case is brought forward and drops out at the muzzle. He also shoots rifle grenades without using the grenade launcher. As a result, a full-fledged assault rifle comes out, in terms of weight and dimensions it is more compact and lighter than even other submachine guns, which gives a record degree of unification - one assault rifle simultaneously occupies the niches of a "long" assault rifle, a shortened assault rifle and a submachine gun, while being a full-fledged "long" assault rifle. Only very short and light.
    2. Vasek
      Vasek 16 September 2014 18: 57
      +4
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Maxim Kalashnikov

      request
      Are you talking about Mikhail Timofeyich?
    3. zennon
      zennon 16 September 2014 19: 10
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      All the same, the assault rifle is not a sniper rifle, but a weapon of millions,

      In fact, they call him an assault rifle. With regards to:
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Maxim Kalashnikov had a "spark of God" and knew what and how to do.

      Yes, but we have a lot of excellent designers. In general, our school of small arms is one of the best. I think we are among the five best schools in the world. As for the trunks themselves, we are on horseback in mass execution. We know how to do it qualitatively. But individually, finishing , upgrade-lagging behind here ...
      1. Tyumen
        Tyumen 16 September 2014 20: 21
        +1
        Quote: zennon
        Our small arms school is one of the best.

        I still wonder how the lone designer Mosin won the powerful Nagan factory in the competition for the production of rifles for the Russian Empire.
        1. zennon
          zennon 16 September 2014 20: 49
          0
          Quote: Tyumen
          I still wonder how the lone designer Mosin won the powerful Nagan factory in the competition for the production of rifles for the Russian Empire.

          This is the topic of a great conversation. But I assure you, we must bow to the memory of Leon Nagan! We, because of a misunderstood patriotism, are inclined not to notice those to whom we owe a lot. In general, Mosin did not make a rifle, but altered it precisely Naganovskaya. to start, now everyone will attack. Google ...
          1. 290980
            290980 17 September 2014 03: 38
            +1
            Quote: zennon
            Quote: Tyumen
            I still wonder how the lone designer Mosin won the powerful Nagan factory in the competition for the production of rifles for the Russian Empire.

            This is the topic of a great conversation. But I assure you, we must bow to the memory of Leon Nagan! We, because of a misunderstood patriotism, are inclined not to notice those to whom we owe a lot. In general, Mosin did not make a rifle, but reworked it precisely Naganovskaya.I do not want to start, now everyone will pounce.Google ...

            on the contrary, it is necessary to discuss, you must finally know that the roots of Mosin come from the German Gewehr 71 and 88, as well as PM from Walter PPK
    4. serega73
      serega73 16 September 2014 19: 28
      +1
      Mikhail Kalashnikov. I would say so hi
  10. Ivan Tucha
    Ivan Tucha 16 September 2014 17: 25
    +2
    I'd love to buy
    1. avt
      avt 16 September 2014 18: 01
      +5
      Quote: Ivan Tucha
      I'd love to buy

      What's the question !?? Get a license for a weapon, wait 5 years and more, it is cheaper than in America it is sold in Moscow. My friend quite calmly bought it at the Semyonovskaya AK under the name “Saiga,” after 5 years he began to buy a rifle. Weight it is a matter of taste and money, to return him to shoot in bursts is a matter of jurisdiction, but I know for sure that people are secretly restoring, well, before checking - back. I also bought the PPSh, converted into a single one.
      1. serega73
        serega73 16 September 2014 19: 41
        +1
        I had a Saiga 3M 7,62 * 39, a good and reliable weapon. Compact, more or less, due to the folding stock. I did not deal with the body kit and tuning, there was a simple optics, so, for a show wink. For all the time of using not a single misfire and poking ammunition was not used different types, and hunting and fighting. It may have differed in accuracy-accuracy from the combat AKM, still a civilian model, but not significantly. And the cost is in the range of 13-15 thousand. Nice thing, in case of aggravation of the operational situation.
        1. avt
          avt 16 September 2014 20: 06
          +1
          Quote: serega73
          . It may have differed in accuracy-accuracy from the combat AKM, still a civilian model, but not significantly. And the cost is in the range of 13-15 thousand. Nice thing, in case of aggravation of the operational situation.

          The funniest thing is that a friend bought for the indicated rubles, in fact, Kalasha "with a wooden butt. He was present. Regarding the" operational situation ", a friend of mine, after 25 years of service, liked to joke when meeting -" Your name is not Kalashnikov? Well, it's okay, we'll give you a machine gun. "
  11. special
    special 16 September 2014 17: 27
    +1
    Nothing personal just business... hi
  12. activator
    activator 16 September 2014 17: 29
    +1
    Well, at least for something they have a shortage and there will be lines!
  13. Everest2014
    Everest2014 16 September 2014 17: 32
    +2
    Somehow violet to me on their demand.
  14. Readme
    Readme 16 September 2014 17: 33
    +5
    When will these Kalashs go to Fashington? Let them talk on Walt Street !!! Or are they only taken by whites and resold in order to fight off blacks in the future?
  15. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 16 September 2014 17: 39
    +3
    Once there was such a "booze", so why not start selling Kalashnikovs abroad
    old models past Afghanistan?
    At collection prices! That's compensation for the fall in oil prices!
    1. Syrdon
      Syrdon 16 September 2014 18: 06
      +2
      Russian Kalash came under sanctions. It can no longer be put on their market. Hence the hype.
  16. The Art of War
    The Art of War 16 September 2014 17: 45
    +2
    I watched a video about mattresses even when they fought in Iraq in front of their media all with m4 and how the media leave everyone grabs ak.
  17. Barakuda
    Barakuda 16 September 2014 17: 49
    +2
    Now let the Chinese wow. But they buy the rest, still they don’t comply with the technology. And the metal is not the same ... And the hands are not the same. (Women at the factory collect them in Russia)
  18. KAPITANUS
    KAPITANUS 16 September 2014 17: 51
    +4
    They need weapons to fight zombies. The invasion of which is very likely.
  19. Everest2014
    Everest2014 16 September 2014 17: 52
    +1
    Quote: Ivan Tucha
    I'd love to buy

    In a blazing fire dill is quite realistic to buy. Why is it needed? Garden to guard?
  20. tracer
    tracer 16 September 2014 17: 56
    +3
    Kalashnikov in America is loved for its cheapness and reliability. Such a weapon in America could not appear in principle. Business understands .. "more expensive and shitty" is the topic ... In Las Vegas, one of the instructors, in a fit of pig squealing, told me that he was winning money for a dispute with the Russian-made Klashnikovs in caliber 7,62 / 39. They argued there at what thousand he would lose accuracy or break. After 50 thousand shots, it continues to shoot regularly and is not going to break. I had a chance to shoot with him. The target hangs at work ... BEAUTY !!!! But it is only necessary to further develop weapons, improving their characteristics, it is unacceptable to stop. It is a pity that the AK-12 project "gave oak" .. I hope all the same that modern small arms will enter service with the Russian army.
  21. Aydar
    Aydar 16 September 2014 17: 56
    +5
    Quote: Obliterator
    Quote: Novel 1977
    Well, the Americans have experienced what AK is in their own skin and now they understand what a good weapon is:

    However, they do not refuse PPSh:

    These are just poser pictures, no more. The American army is fighting all the same only with standard weapons.

    Or PMCs who are officially not supplied by the Pentagon and are self-sufficient in trophy ammunition. Regular U.S. forces never use AKs because their full-time weapons (M16A2 and M4 were brought to mind by Heckler and Koch, this is already 70 Hackler’s weapons), respectively, the percentage of automation failures decreased, in addition, the soldier who lost his weapon in battle ( who replaced it with an abnormal) or replaced with an abnormal item of equipment is deprived under the terms of the contract of payment in case of injury or death. Therefore, Americans not only participate in battle with their standard weapons (and they come to exercises in other countries without regular weapons in order not to lose them), but they don’t take off their helmets and body armor even on vacation.
    1. Tyumen
      Tyumen 16 September 2014 20: 26
      0
      Quote: Aydar
      even on vacation helmets and body armor are not removed.

      I would not want to be in the same barracks with such * fragrant * guys)
  22. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 16 September 2014 18: 01
    +4
    Damn, $ 600, why, bliiiin, at least go to America. We would live to see such decay.
    1. Leviton
      Leviton 16 September 2014 18: 30
      +3
      Quote: Фкенщь13
      Damn, $ 600, why, bliiiin, at least go to America. We would live to see such decay.

      What about control? you would be sure that the "tovarisch" from the next doorway, after a quarrel with his wife, began to assert himself with a legally purchased weapon ... typed ... and someday it will shoot .. it's almost like Chekhov - if the gun weighs on the wall, then by the end of the play it will certainly shoot ... only at the pros winked
      1. FunkschNNX
        FunkschNNX 17 September 2014 08: 58
        0
        I have no right to speak for others and do not know what they will do in a given situation. But when a neighbor decides to assert himself, he may well have a rifle or an ax in a heavier way, and then something very useful to me is a firearm. And the pros, but don’t have enough of the pros to be on duty in every yard.
    2. Tyumen
      Tyumen 16 September 2014 20: 28
      0
      Quote: Фкенщь13
      We would live to see such decay.

      Reasoning teenager.
      1. FunkschNNX
        FunkschNNX 17 September 2014 08: 59
        0
        Not just a teenager, but global practice and statistics.
  23. Rocket
    Rocket 16 September 2014 18: 01
    +4
    Quote: Obliterator
    Quote: Stalker
    Good weapons exist only in Russian production !!!!

    Not only. The Germans (and the rest of Europe) and the Americans also make wonderful weapons.

    Western weapons will never be in such demand as the AK. It is not "warlike" - expensive, with many details, whimsical, mostly less lethal.
    "- If you want to play a soldier - take m4. - If you want to kill someone - take this (ak 47 (!))." From some kind of movie. American, by the way. what
    1. Aydar
      Aydar 16 September 2014 20: 12
      +1
      AndWestern weapons will never be in demand, like AKs. It is not "warlike" - expensive, with many details, whimsical, mostly less lethal

      Just the same modern Western weapons and more "warlike", take any western barrel or FN 2000, or the same SCAR is almost 80% made of plastic, and therefore cheaper to manufacture, since less metal consumption, allow you to easily stamp the necessary parts in large volumes of plastic and replace any broken parts (handles, forend, butts, etc.), and about the "set of parts" - in some samples there are even fewer of them than in Kalashnikovs. I don’t want to comment on the "lesser slaughter", as this is generally the opinion of the housewife.
  24. Sasha75
    Sasha75 16 September 2014 18: 03
    +6
    As Kalashnikov himself said, one trouble of my machine was reliability for 40 years in some countries they both bought and use new ones, they didn’t buy, he said smiling. And m 16 times in 5 years it is necessary to update and this if only educational post-shootings.
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  26. shelva
    shelva 16 September 2014 18: 09
    +3
    If the "sanctions" continue, it will be three times more expensive - there are no analogues in the world!
  27. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 16 September 2014 18: 23
    +3
    Kalashnikov assault rifle It's like a Russian soul, simple, reliable and at the same time formidable .. Well, for Russian weapons, men ..! drinks It does not need advertising ..! hi
  28. mivmim
    mivmim 16 September 2014 18: 39
    +1
    So here it is necessary to establish supplies through Mexico. We have old Kalash in stocks, there’s nowhere to go, so we’ve discarded stale goods. laughing
    1. Tyumen
      Tyumen 16 September 2014 20: 29
      0
      They lie, they don’t ask, but our population is growing ...
  29. Aydar
    Aydar 16 September 2014 18: 42
    +2
    Quote: Kasym
    OBLITER. Americas. special forces, leaving behind enemy lines, take precisely Kalash. Because of reliability, and so that when shooting, do not give out yourself by the sound of shots. So for sabotage and reconnaissance groups it is almost a regular weapon.
    And the legend of reliability, frankly, was not invented by us, namely by the Americans in Vietnam. And the demand in their market says a lot. hi

    This is balabal, the American special forces do not take Kalashnikov’s for operations (he used to take them in Vietnam, since the full-time M-14 was too bulky, powerful and you couldn’t take a lot of cartridges for it, then they brought M16 to mind), now and after Vietnam they didn’t take Kalashnikovs - since they can shoot their own by mistake or cover in one gulp or burn from above with napalm. The Israelis take it, because they still have Galil Sar and Galil Ar in service, and this is a modernized Kalashnikov, under the Soviet cartridge, so the sound is almost the same.
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 16 September 2014 20: 05
      +1
      Aydar, this is you Discovery tell. A series of programs about the Afghan war.
  30. brdnxela
    brdnxela 16 September 2014 18: 43
    +1
    If they weren’t so stupid, they would have understood long ago that Russians and Russians are all the best, because PRESENT!
  31. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 16 September 2014 18: 50
    +1
    This reminds me of a story about a man who is not interested in anything himself. When you hide behind a corner and look again, you can notice very active movements. America, too, is just like her own ... and quietly eats everything up.
  32. Aydar
    Aydar 16 September 2014 18: 53
    +1
    In general, Kalashnikov and Soviet weapons in general, are popular in the United States not because of ergonomics or reliability, there are more reliable, functional, ergonomic and easily modifiable models, although they are somewhat more expensive at the price of the same SCAR or G36 or the latest version of Beretta, not to mention about Polish and Czech developments, no less reliable, but much more ergonomic and modifiable, including for different calibers, by simply replacing the barrel and the tomorrow group - Kalashnikov compared to them is just a musket. The secret of popularity in the cheapness and accessibility of Soviet ammunition from rifle to submachine gun and pistol, which surged in the United States on a colossal scale after the collapse of the Warsaw Pact and cost real pennies there, is less than $ 50 per zinc. The low cost of the cartridge allows you to quickly and efficiently teach anyone how to shoot with automatic weapons, and then switch to more professional models, they will always be of value, in the USA any professional shooter has his favorite barrel and, as a rule, it’s either American or European, depending on income.
    1. brdnxela
      brdnxela 16 September 2014 18: 58
      0
      Their trunks of beloved are in abundance, only they are fighting, all West Point and others like that, somehow not really.
    2. Dinko
      Dinko 17 September 2014 06: 50
      0
      Why did you get that all these types are more reliable than Kalash? Read the primer. And where in the States you can not find zinc cartridges for Kalash even for 150 bucks. In the mid 90s before banning cartridges with a steel core 7.62 for 39 Chinese-made one zinc cost 80 dollars .
    3. Dinko
      Dinko 17 September 2014 07: 30
      0
      Why did you get that Kalashnikov is less reliable than the samples you listed? How do you know how reliable and functional the same Beretta is? In all the USA you won’t find zinc cartridges for Kalash cheaper than $ 200 and that’s a fact! It’s clear that you have read foreign brochures and you’re carrying a blizzard at all.
  33. s1н7т
    s1н7т 16 September 2014 19: 10
    +1
    Quote: Basarev
    As for the special weapon tuning: has anyone heard of modifications to PPS-43? Still, the best submachine gun of the Second World War, a legend after all.

    About modifications - just did not hear. There was only PPS-43, and that’s it. About tuning - I also do not know. They are still less than, for example, PPSh released, fewer and fewer. Although one friend in a personal museum has one such as one of the highlights of the collection. These probably do not tune. laughing
    And what’s best, according to the father who fought with him, this is true.
    As a child, I argued with him - well, well, everywhere in textbooks and movies all the characters are with PPSh! The answer is that these are heroes in the cinema. In life, the best was - PPS. Reliable, convenient, compact. Not to mention build quality. Mother collected PPSh during the war. He says that if you hold the casing with your hand, you can cut yourself.
  34. dyremar 66
    dyremar 66 16 September 2014 19: 40
    -3
    Quote: Djozz
    The trigger is not pulled, it is cocked or released, but the trigger is pulled, and also "marshal" learn materiel!

    Quote: Djozz
    The trigger is not pulled, it is cocked or released, but the trigger is pulled, and also "marshal" learn materiel!

    where did you see competent marshals? since the time of Zhukov, they have only been able to extinguish a fire with gasoline ... yes, people like gases like Tukhlachevsky
  35. Evilcat
    Evilcat 16 September 2014 20: 00
    -6
    Quote: Novel 1977
    Well, the Americans have experienced what AK is in their own skin and now they understand what a good weapon is:




    However, they do not refuse PPSh:




    Yes shit PPSh. Actually, it’s a bit of a shame to mention him in an article about Kalash. Did you hold PPSh in your hands?
    1. enot73
      enot73 16 September 2014 21: 25
      +5
      Quote: EvilCat
      Yes shit PPSh. Actually, it’s a bit of a shame to mention him in an article about Kalash. Did you hold PPSh in your hands?
      However, advanced enemies - Germans of the PCA were respected.
    2. Evilcat
      Evilcat 17 September 2014 21: 17
      0
      Oh how amicably zaminusli! Interestingly, the passing PCA were held in their hands? Have you tried to fill the store with training cartridges? Are you aware that stores for each instance fit individually? It means. that if a store soldier fails, then he is left without a weapon. A minus, experts, damn it. I dug up the PCA when you didn’t even know such words.
  36. Aydar
    Aydar 16 September 2014 20: 05
    +1
    Quote: Zymran
    Quote: Kasym
    OBLITER. Americas. special forces, leaving behind enemy lines, take precisely Kalash. Because of reliability, and so that when shooting, do not give out yourself by the sound of shots.


    In my opinion these are patriotic tales.

    Quote: Kasym
    And the legend of reliability, frankly, was not invented by us, namely by the Americans in Vietnam. And the demand in their market says a lot. hi


    And this is true. Moreover, not only in Vietnam, but also in the Arab-Israeli wars, AK was superior to FN FAL, though this still did not help.

    FN Fal is a completely different class of weapons, it is a full-fledged automatic rifle, in addition, it has largely absorbed from the SVT-40 and ABC-36.
  37. Aydar
    Aydar 16 September 2014 20: 22
    0
    Quote: Kasym
    Aydar, this is you Discovery tell. A series of programs about the Afghan war.

    Quote: Kasym
    Aydar, this is you Discovery tell. A series of programs about the Afghan war.

    According to Discovery, in general, a lot of what is left shows is a channel in general for teenagers in theory. Moreover, I’ll tell you a secret - Discovery adapts its programs to this or that country or audience, in the West they will show that the best is only western, in the CIS they will show that the western is certainly better but the local one is also good.
    Here is the AP15 and it seems to shoot nothing, even though there is dust and dirt in the shutter group and receiver. Https: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = BYenZXvGhDs
  38. Aydar
    Aydar 16 September 2014 20: 34
    0
    Quote: Vasek
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Maxim Kalashnikov

    request
    Are you talking about Mikhail Timofeyich?

    This is obviously about the writer, he likes to read books, including how the "Kalash" breaks through the rail through: (((
  39. Aydar
    Aydar 16 September 2014 20: 38
    0
    Quote: Tyumen
    Quote: c1n7
    Neither PM nor PB.

    PB is Baryshev’s pistol, or ... Maybe clarify?

    I haven’t heard about the mythical “Baryshev's pistol” - it never went beyond the OCD. A PB is a type of PM only with a silencer, it is still used in the special forces and reconnaissance units of the army and airborne forces.
    1. zennon
      zennon 16 September 2014 22: 13
      0
      Quote: Aydar

      I have not heard about the mythical "Baryshev's pistol" - he never went beyond the OCD.

      Not a mythical one. An interesting machine. Here's a curiosity:
      http://topwar.ru/32289-pistolet-barysheva.html
  40. Aydar
    Aydar 17 September 2014 07: 13
    0
    Quote: Dinko
    Why did you get that all these types are more reliable than Kalash? Read the primer. And where in the States you can not find zinc cartridges for Kalash even for 150 bucks. In the mid 90s before banning cartridges with a steel core 7.62 for 39 Chinese-made one zinc cost 80 dollars .

    Read the primer yourself, you can in English, you will need it to understand and realize - http://ammoseek.com/ammo/7.62x39mm
  41. Aydar
    Aydar 17 September 2014 12: 15
    0
    Quote: enot73
    Quote: EvilCat
    Yes shit PPSh. Actually, it’s a bit of a shame to mention him in an article about Kalash. Did you hold PPSh in your hands?
    However, advanced enemies - Germans of the PCA were respected.

    So the Red Army "respected" the German MP-38 \ 40 and MG-34 \ 42 machine guns, but for some reason no one says that this is the best weapon.
  42. Evilcat
    Evilcat 17 September 2014 22: 25
    0
    Quote: enot73
    Quote: EvilCat
    Yes shit PPSh. Actually, it’s a bit of a shame to mention him in an article about Kalash. Did you hold PPSh in your hands?
    However, advanced enemies - Germans of the PCA were respected.

    And you did not forget that in the German army machines were from non-commissioned personnel and above? And even then, not every non-commissioner. It was from despair that our machines picked up. By the way, it’s more likely to be PPD, (at the beginning of the war) and not PCA.
    And if you are a specialist in the use of trophies, then comment on this.

    What, German tanks were better than ours?
  43. Everest2014
    Everest2014 18 September 2014 21: 50
    +1
    Hungry APU soldiers sell assault rifles for $ 35
    http://lifenews.ru/news/140945