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Why there will be no peace. To new sanctions and Boeing PR

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This is The Wall Sreet Journal for 6 September - three days before the preliminary report was published: “The investigators said that the plane was shot down by a rocket from the territory controlled by pro-Russian separatists.”

This is the BBC: “The Buk anti-aircraft missile system, spotted in the area where the Malaysian Boeing was shot down, was controlled by the Russians, eyewitnesses told the BBC Panorama TV program.

The program, which was broadcast on Monday, was devoted to Ukrainian events and the policies of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Independently, three local residents told Panorama that they had seen a missile system in a separatist-controlled area a few hours before the Boeing incident.

An eyewitness saw how the complex was unloaded from a cargo trailer in the town of Snezhnoye, approximately 13.30 local time, which is located in 10 km from the plane crash site.

“We saw how it was unloaded, and when the Beech was brought in, exhaust smoke filled the entire city square,” he said.

An eyewitness told the BBC that the team members were similar to the military from Russia. “Well-disciplined, unlike the militia, and they were not wearing the standard camouflage uniform of the Ukrainian army, which is worn by both government forces and separatists,” he said.

“They spoke pure Russian. They pronounce “d” differently, ”he said.

His words were confirmed by the second witness, who added that the officer accompanying the “Beech” in the jeep spoke with a “Moscow accent”.

And then there was the report itself with its sensational “what happened to the plane? He was shot down with something. ”

No hint at what the plane was shot down and who shot it down.

Naturally, this could not arrange a democratic press that never lies and does not please anyone except the truth.

Therefore, already in advance, on the part of all the most truthful and independent media, truthful objective information flowed on the air that the Malaysians one and all condemned the Russian aggression in Ukraine and put Putin personally responsible for the death of the liner, three Ukrainian witnesses (what? ) identified the beech crew and, with the help of an instantaneous independent linguistic expertise, they identified the Muscovites.

According to the latest most up-to-date unbiased data, Putin introduced the Russian military to Ukraine right in the Russian form, which everyone, without taking this form off, made all kinds of things, and shot down a plane that was immediately identified by eyewitnesses as a civilian at a height of ten kilometers, and left playing accordions.

What is there to wait for? Everything is already clear - it is necessary to introduce sanctions!

And Europe does not really want sanctions, which it is introducing today.

Some countries under the leadership of Finland wanted the introduction of new sanctions to be postponed until negotiations were in progress.

According to the statement of the Finnish Prime Minister Alexander Stubb, the country is of the opinion that the period of negotiations is “the wrong time” for the introduction of sanctions.

The Finnish representative also stressed that earlier when making decisions related to the situation in Ukraine, his country was among those who "had doubts about the growing economic pressure on Russia." And this time, several European countries joined the Finnish initiative.

In turn, the US authorities insist on the early imposition of sectoral sanctions against the Russian Federation. Such a statement was made by the representative of the National Security Council of the White House. She explained that, from the point of view of Washington, “Russia should be forced to pay an even higher price,” that is, use new sanctions against it, since, according to a White House representative, Russia conducts “aggressive military activities” in Ukraine.

Speaking of sanctions.

NEW YORK, 31 AUG. / Corr. ITAR-TASS Andrei Bekrenev. American Democratic senator Dianne Feinstein, who heads the special chamber of intelligence in the upper house of Congress, expressed doubt that the sanctions imposed against Russia because of the situation in Ukraine would be effective.

“Some call for waiting for the sanctions to start and the state of the (Russian) economy will worsen. I disagree with that. The Russians are very brave and will survive any economic difficulties. I'm not sure that they (the sanctions) will work, ”said Feinstein in an interview with the American television channel NBC

What is the mistake of the senator? In that she believes that the goal of American policy is to protect Ukraine from Russian aggression. If this were true, then the measures taken by the United States would really be ineffective. But the thing is that sanctions are not a way to influence Russia, but the goal of American policy. Sanctions are strings, of which the US weaves a new iron curtain between Europe and Russia.

What for? Then that Russia is Europe’s natural geopolitical partner in the field of security, energy, culture and science.

I emphasize - NATURAL.

Due to the similarity of interests, geographical location and economic structure.

That is why Russia is interested in restoring precisely the natural order of things in Europe - without radical conflicts.

The problem is that all these areas - namely, security, energy, scientific cooperation - this is the service sector where America wants to remain a monopolist in the European market. And this can be done only by violating the natural order of things and creating an artificial order - creating a conflict not controlled by the parties and establishing the Iron Curtain with it. That is, do the same thing that was already done in 1946.

If you look at stories agreements between Ukraine, Europe and Russia over the past year, to all truces and covenants, you will see that whoever signed all the most good documents - ministers from Europe, authorized, Yanukovych, Poroshenko, Kuchma - their fate is such that they are as would not be at all. Because there is a force that absolutely ignores all contracts and agreements. This force is the nationalists, the Right Sector and the territorial battalions, which are not subordinate to Poroshenko, not Kuchma, not the EU, but Nalyvaychenko, who created them, and Kolomoisky, who feeds them. And both of them - belong to the United States with giblets.

Therefore, there will be no peace.

In any case, as long as the Americans in Ukraine have agents of this level. And only Russia or the pro-Russian rebels can solve the issue with this agency when they enter Kiev.

I would like to clarify: resolving the issue is like with Basayev, Yandarbiyev and Maskhadov.

Before this entrance to Kiev, there can be no serious pause in the war, no security of energy supplies to Europe, and you can’t even begin to speak - it was not all done for that.

The war in Ukraine is not a question of Novorossia. It is not even a question of Kiev. This is not a question of Berlin or Moscow. This is a war for Eurasia. ALL Eurasia.

The winner gets everything.

And these ambitious tasks are solved by such miserable means as the primitive lies of the newspapers, the charm of Psaki, the competence of Clinton and so on.

This is certainly the perfect demonstration of all the best qualities of what is fighting against us.

This is a civilization that simplifies a person to the level of a ringed worm, without sparing even the governing elite. This is a project of global debilization, issued for harmony with peace and happiness.

In this case, the media simply works for the target audience, for which this will be fine. Their target audience is an individual that exists in deserted comfort, where all of humanity is a concierge from Portugal and a plumber from Poland who appear when something is wrong and disappear as soon as everything is adjusted - the stove is cooking, the toilet is draining. This is the European culture of narrow professional professionals who have completely lost their knowledge about a person, his motives, his goals, his meanings, because they are no longer needed for each other.

If you take any technician from the average provincial Russian car repair shop, his outlook will be wider, his knowledge of a person will be deeper, his unprofessional social ties will be stronger, more diverse and deeper than that of a German engineer. Because the Russian technician will have friends, comrades at work, a bride or wife, children, parents and the whole country represented by a teacher of children at school, a policeman, a doctor and so on, with whom his personal connections will be connected. And the German conditional engineer from the whole list will be just a cat. Everything else will be replaced by excellent social services. They will work fine, but they will be faceless and not evoke feelings of love, camaraderie, solidarity, understanding, sympathy, forgiveness. Consequently, the personality will not develop these unnecessary mechanisms.

This is where this cruelty, emotional stupidity and other psaki about “went to our grandmothers” comes from.

It is this that is trying to prove our superiority to us and, consequently, to justify our right to determine our destiny.

And we hope it will be taken into account.
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  1. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 16 September 2014 19: 01
    +28
    It's like that. But nobody cares. Russia and the militias in the West have already been appointed guilty.

    We are always bad for them, by definition.
    1. master 84
      master 84 16 September 2014 19: 04
      +15
      Russia doesn’t care about their main goal
      1. DVxa
        DVxa 16 September 2014 19: 04
        +17
        to solve the problem is like with Basayev, Yandarbiev and Maskhadov

        The only way. Otherwise, there will be no order.
        1. Balbes_I
          Balbes_I 16 September 2014 19: 18
          +3
          The closer winter is, the stronger our arguments.

          And you must first clean Kiev, and then all of Europe, if it does not clean itself ...

          In Kiev, pravoseki today besieged Rada ...

          Pravoseki decided to continue tomorrow ...
          1. Stalker
            Stalker 16 September 2014 21: 08
            +4
            As for the dill air force !!

            Sorry that is off topic !!!! hi

            Carlson did not crap on the fly like pigeons, until at a height of 100 meters his engine failed. laughing
          2. Ivan__Pomidorov
            Ivan__Pomidorov 17 September 2014 08: 53
            +3
            It is necessary to clean not territories, but minds.
            Soviet ideology fell and religious obscurantism began to revive everywhere.
            So here, the neighbors were brought down by a grandiose zombodose and they conscientiously believe in all this evil, supposedly done, I’m a Nazi face, ami (quilted jackets, goat-muzzle, glass washers - this is a small list of how they call me Censor.net)
        2. mazhnikof.Niko
          mazhnikof.Niko 16 September 2014 20: 27
          +1
          Quote: DVxa
          to solve the problem is like with Basayev, Yandarbiev and Maskhadov


          I agree, but ...
          1) such issues are not resolved on "VO"
          2) With all due respect, you don’t even need to discuss ...
          3) And so, well, everything is correct.
          1. Oldwiser
            Oldwiser 17 September 2014 13: 37
            0
            for carrying out "special operations" and there are "special services"
      2. Hans51
        Hans51 16 September 2014 19: 39
        +23
        Break off your teeth with mattresses! We are RUSSIAN, we are STRENGTH! Everything will be soon! Do not have time to recover the Americans!
        1. Kindof
          Kindof 16 September 2014 22: 54
          +2
          I’m afraid that I’ll have to fight not with the Americans, but with the Slavs (((
      3. Paradoxov
        Paradoxov 16 September 2014 19: 51
        +13
        This is a project of global debilitation, presented as harmony with the world and happiness.

        You can’t say better, there are many pluses to the article! yes

        a photo
      4. 222222
        222222 16 September 2014 20: 28
        +2
        master 84 RU Today, 19:04 ↑
        Quote: master 84
        Russia doesn’t care about their main goal

        The oligarchs proposed their peace plan in Ukraine
        News | 16.09.2014/16/40 | XNUMX:XNUMX
        @@@@@@ The document was signed by the heads of the American companies Alcoa, PepsiCo and Ernst & Young - Klaus Klinefeld, Indra Nui and Mark Weinberger, the heads of the Russian companies Rosnano, Sberbank of the Russian Federation, VTB and Severstal - Anatoly Chubais, German Gref, Andrey Kostin and Alexey Mordashov, heads of the German concerns BASF and Siemens - Kurt Bock and Joe Kaeser. Ukraine was represented by the owner of EastOne Group Viktor Pinchuk, the head of KM Core Yevgeny Utkin and the head of the Horizon Capital investment fund Natalia Yaresko, as well as co-owner of the Industrial Union of Donbass corporation Serhiy Taruta. In addition, Klaus Schwab and the President of the European Investment Bank, Werner Hoyer, signed the document.[email protected]@@
        http://www.fondsk.ru/news/2014/09/16/oligarhi-predlozhili-svoj-plan-mira-v-ukrai
        ne-29508.html
        http://minprom.ua/news/164541.html

        &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
      5. PRN
        PRN 16 September 2014 22: 08
        +7
        Agreements with the ukronazists and those who stand behind them cost no more than the paper on which they are written.
    2. Civil
      Civil 16 September 2014 19: 04
      -6
      Now, it’s too late to tumble the hoh llamas, it’s time to conduct negotiations ...
      1. Vitaly72
        Vitaly72 16 September 2014 21: 12
        +6
        tumble down never too late
    3. Alekseev
      Alekseev 16 September 2014 19: 32
      +15
      Quote: Kibalchish
      already appointed guilty.

      And to us - do not give in!
      Make them guilty! yes
      If I were the director:
      1. In addition to agricultural. the embargo to ban used and non-used cars, all consumer goods from the EU and the USA, even if they want, they collect and sew in the Russian Federation with a localization of at least 70%. Will there be difficulties? Maybe. But Asia will help us, and even the raw materials themselves have.
      To prohibit dollars within the country, to allow the sale only when traveling abroad, or, for legal entities. persons, with a foreign trade transaction confirmed by customs, offshore in FIG. You work in the Russian Federation - register your "daughter" here.
      Gradual departure from the dollar, the euro and the transition to national currencies in foreign trade.
      Import from the Baltic states and other most ardent collapse completely.
      In response to attempts to strengthen NATO’s military presence, deploy special munitions wassat (nuclear mines) on the borders of Poland and Lithuania with our comrades - they say, we react asymmetrically, we warn: we will not deploy troops and we will not spend too much money, but you don’t stomp much there at home, go with caution!
      I assure you that the West will not like it much and the zeal of its leaders will disappear.
      But all these decisive things possible only when restoring order within the country.
      Normal laws of direct action, transparency and so on.
      When thinking about corruption, embezzlement, an official should be described with fear, mandatory confiscation, etc.
      1. Tyumen
        Tyumen 16 September 2014 21: 17
        0
        But it’s impossible with us, Stalin is no more, and we can’t become Chinese).
        Quote: Alekseev
        When thinking about corruption, embezzlement, an official should be described with fear
        1. Oldwiser
          Oldwiser 17 September 2014 13: 41
          0
          we can and must, we are also a people with a thousand-year history
    4. DV69
      DV69 16 September 2014 21: 05
      +1
      Quote: Kibalchish
      It's like that. But nobody cares. Russia and the militias in the West have already been appointed guilty.

      We are always bad for them, by definition.


      It always has been. And what to give up? Do not wait!
    5. Spnsr
      Spnsr 16 September 2014 22: 32
      0
      there will be no peace! America and Europe declared war on Russia, they want to undermine it, and they sit in anticipation rubbing their hands, waiting for a split ...
      and after all they succeed, prices unreasonably crawled up in the stores, and yet for the most part there are no prerequisites for this. one could understand this if they were imported goods, the price of which depends on the price of the dollar, but no, just nouveau riches, grabbers want to grab this wave, but this is what the main retail chains were originally like sellers imported products, and now they have been banned, and they want to return everything to their place, because somewhere they need to put their products on ...
      One Sberbank is worth it, he began to take interest for something that he never took, and should not take it, when the person himself conducts the operation, not through the operator ... and much more for what, for which he did not take before ... and yesterday and today I refused to give my money back, citing some technical reasons ...
      here such are the accomplices of the geyropa and pin.dos.tana, in loosening peace in the state
      how did these fifth columns manage before without this?
    6. SSR
      SSR 16 September 2014 23: 49
      0
      Quote: Kibalchish
      It's like that. But nobody cares. Russia and the militias in the West have already been appointed guilty.

      We are always bad for them, by definition.

      1. In general, you are a comrade "kibalchish" already a fairly well-known alarmist.
      2. Your all shrewd slogans resonate with people.
      3. You always mix flies and poop.
      1. Russia and militias-appointed.
      2. Any reader can click on your nickname to read all the persimmons that you post about polymers.
      3. In the west - for the gifted Russia is a tasty kusman, but a "kusman" with teeth and can give a return
      4. "Kibalchish", your last comments - in general, see for yourself, but it was not in vain that the comrades nip you minuses, you wrote off like a burp. (Imha).
    7. Sergei1982
      Sergei1982 17 September 2014 05: 19
      0
      There is no need for a strong Russia in the West, look at what kind of mess there was under the EBN and no one noticed this in the West that was called all excesses of democracies, and now when the country started to rise from our knees somehow we see the dictatorship and we are aggressors.
  2. ALEXX.
    ALEXX. 16 September 2014 19: 06
    +1
    The Russian people are not afraid of any sanctions, so the mattresses of your plans are complete rubbish, and indeed all politics.
  3. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 16 September 2014 19: 06
    +10
    Well, what, Russia has shown weakness, Gunpowder is preparing for a new blow, it's time to push. By the way, the speech of "those who speak with a typically Russian accent" was thrown in for the first time after the Maidan, hinting at the origin of snipers, and then multiplied in connection with the Crimea. It seems that in Ukraine the students turned out to be much more capable than Serbia or Georgia.
    1. Tyumen
      Tyumen 16 September 2014 21: 19
      0
      Quote: Novel 1977
      . It seems that in Ukraine, students were much more capable

      Well, how, it’s Russian.
  4. Russ69
    Russ69 16 September 2014 19: 08
    +3
    And who is this Korsun?

    MOSCOW, September 16 - RIA News. The document on the creation of the united army of New Russia, according to which the armies of the self-proclaimed Lugansk and Donetsk people's republics will merge into one armed force, was signed on Tuesday. The army was led by Lieutenant General Ivan Korsun, according to the press center of the government and the Supreme Council of the DPR.

    "Fulfilling the will of the people, expressed by representatives of the deputy corps of Novorossia, and also taking into account the urgent need to create a united armed forces of Novorossia, which will allow solving the tasks of both the defense of the republics of the DPR and LPR, and the subsequent offensive, in order to liberate the peoples of Novorossia and Ukraine from the yoke of Nazism and oligarchs, we, the commanders of the volunteer military formations of the people's republics, acting on the basis of the popular will ... made a decision to create a united armed forces of Novorossia, "the message says.

    Also, according to the document, the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of New Russia, Lieutenant General Ivan Korsun was instructed to carry out a set of necessary organizational measures to implement this decision as soon as possible.

    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20140916/1024366453.html#ixzz3DUWqWjbN
  5. MSA
    MSA 16 September 2014 19: 09
    +6
    Quote: Kibalchish
    Russia and the militias in the West have already been appointed guilty.

    So what ? No more opinions and never will be? All the most interesting is ahead, all their accusations are not supported by anything, and many see and know this, but while they are silent, and the time will come when they will speak, everyone will speak ... It is so arranged in our world that they are afraid of the strong, especially those scumbags like Americans, who come up with rules for everyone on the go, but they don’t adhere to them. And here there is almost an open confrontation between the two powers, so only the mongrel bark, and the rest took an observant position and the winner will get everything ...
    1. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 16 September 2014 19: 27
      +14
      Only acts in the world STRENGTH. Neither kindness nor mind is important if there is no power. In order for the West to retreat, two forces must be used: WILLPOWER и WEAPON POWER. Willingness to go before a nuclear war. Willingness to strike first if necessary.
      We will not show - they will humiliate Russia further.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 16 September 2014 20: 05
        +10
        Kibalchish
        Only POWER acts in the world. Neither kindness nor mind is important if there is no power. In order for the West to retreat, two forces must be used: WILL POWER and WEAPON POWER.


        I agree with you. The only thing that scares me is the current situation, which reminds me of a scenario from some distant disaster movie, in which everything also began with sanctions, and ended with World War III. I understand that we survived the Cuban missile crisis (I was just born and I don’t know how it happened, but I remember how we lived after it (there was a shield at the school with the words “I don’t know what weapon we will fight in World War 3, but I know that in World War 3 we will fight with clubs ").
        1. Tyumen
          Tyumen 16 September 2014 21: 23
          +2
          When asked with what weapons the Third World War will begin, Einstein answered: I don’t know, but the fourth will start with stones.
        2. Oldwiser
          Oldwiser 17 September 2014 13: 46
          0
          and in my school there was a graphic campaign on civil defense - "the damaging factors of a nuclear explosion", "the organization and procedure for evacuation", "the actions of the soldiers of the civil defense crew" and "first aid." And there were no such defeatist slogans in my time.
      2. max702
        max702 16 September 2014 23: 28
        0
        I propose to destroy the short-range gas stations of the Western world in the first place and everything will become calmer .. I’ll shout that the aggressor will sing that bad .. But they won’t press the buttons because it is sycotic, they have something to lose. Arctic fox will come to everyone without options. and so they will rub off and think what to do ..
  6. UFO
    UFO 16 September 2014 19: 11
    +11
    One must understand once and NEVER forget that until the Anglo-Saxon elite and the Zionist elite are destroyed, there will never be truth and justice, no international laws will be applied, no rights will be respected. It is necessary to erase once and for all these PARASITES together with their INTERESTS !!! am
    1. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 16 September 2014 19: 36
      +3
      All right, but how to do it?
      Quote: UFO


      One must understand once and NEVER forget that until the Anglo-Saxon elite and the Zionist elite are destroyed, there will never be truth and justice, no international laws will be applied, no rights will be respected. It is necessary to erase once and for all these PARASITES together with their INTERESTS !!!
      1. UFO
        UFO 16 September 2014 19: 57
        +1
        Quote: mikh-korsakov
        All right, but how to do it?

        A. Just put this at number 1.
        b. And proceeding from this, act in different directions.
        (point a is the most difficult!)
  7. Same lech
    Same lech 16 September 2014 19: 11
    +4
    If you take any technician from an average provincial Russian car repair shop, his horizons will be wider, his knowledge about a person will be deeper, his unprofessional social connections will be more durable, more diverse and deeper than that of a German engineer.


    Right.....


    And we can show our superiority in the WESTERN WORLD only by surviving after ... heh heh their next sanctions.
    1. Signaller
      Signaller 16 September 2014 19: 31
      +4
      Do not worry. We have potatoes and nettles with a swan in bulk. Ashes as a thread.
      1. Alf
        Alf 16 September 2014 20: 32
        +4
        Quote: Signaller
        Do not worry. We have potatoes and nettles with a swan in bulk. Ashes as a thread.

        We will survive. But how much stench will be from our shit, and, unfortunately, they are the ones who shout the loudest.
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 16 September 2014 23: 37
          +1
          Quote: Alf
          But how much will be the stench from our shit



          Ksenia Sobchak in perpetual swoon - how to live without oysters? bully
        2. vitamin ky
          vitamin ky 17 September 2014 03: 16
          +1
          COMPLETELY RIGHT - Actually, the sanctions have not yet been crushed too much, so they kicked off — it stinks — stinks — and floated — I honestly didn’t expect such people to frown so much, well, okay, Mocha and dog, but I didn’t expect a trick from the shevchuk and so on - eh, little people replaced honor with gold - trouble sad
      2. ochakow703
        ochakow703 16 September 2014 21: 16
        +7
        Our family response to all sanctions: 24 bags of selected potatoes, 4 bags of carrots, a bag of beets and a bunch of other crap from the garden - one and a half cans of corned beef, cans of forty stewed fruit and jam, a centner of honey, two boars by November 7th, by the New Year, two dozen geese . Go bite Abamka. You, Russians, cannot be taken by any kind of starvation. Continue to shit, we will leave for the forest, and then That's it! Vietnam, America, will seem like a children's sandbox to you.
  8. MIV999
    MIV999 16 September 2014 19: 12
    +8
    It's not about the Malaysian Boeing crying , not in the EU with its sanctions negative , and even not at all in Ukraine with its "Svidomo"fool ...
    Looking at the root of the problem, I want to ask only one question: Columbus, WHY ??? request
    1. rf xnumx
      rf xnumx 16 September 2014 19: 45
      +2
      Quote: MIV999
      Looking at the root of the problem, I want to ask only one question: Columbus, WHY ???

    2. sabakina
      sabakina 16 September 2014 20: 09
      +5
      He was just looking for a way to India ...
      It’s a pity the aborigines didn’t eat that ...
      1. Tyumen
        Tyumen 16 September 2014 21: 25
        0
        Maybe we have someone who closes America?)
        1. Djubal
          Djubal 17 September 2014 07: 32
          0
          yes did not open Columbus America. people lived there and without him. and America was stupidly captured, with genocide, robbery and other "civilized chips"
    3. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 17 September 2014 13: 50
      0
      I was looking for India, I wanted to get the gold for a "decent" old age
  9. Russ69
    Russ69 16 September 2014 19: 14
    +2
    And here is our liberal cohort, has already gone to merge New Russia. And FIG who will prove to me that this is a private initiative, and Putin has nothing to do with it ...

    1. Take the 12-step ceasefire plan developed by the OSCE as the starting point for further action. Ensure a stable truce, supporting the immediate cessation of violence and loss of life. Recognize human life as the primary and primary value.

    2. Refrain from using a provocative, warlike and aggressive language, recognizing that only honest dialogue conducted in a spirit of cooperation will allow progress, security and sustainable peace.

    3. Intensify the process of comprehensive dialogue - both at the national Ukrainian level, and between Ukraine and Russia, and between Europe, Russia, Ukraine and the USA with an obligation to set common goals and identify key milestones in solving current problems.

    4. Support the security system in the eastern region of Ukraine under the supervision of the OSCE - at least until territorial security is guaranteed.

    5. Initiate a comprehensive political process aimed at decentralization of power in Ukraine. As part of this process, the central government must grant additional rights to the regions. This process should also be supported by safeguards to respect the rights of national minorities and linguistic rights.

    6. Guarantee the security and sovereignty of Ukraine by the international community. Recognize the priority of international law over national interests. Recognize the right to self-determination, but encourage Ukraine to consider adopting a military non-alignment policy comparable to that already in force in a number of European countries (Finland, Sweden, Switzerland).

    7. In the framework of restoring normal business relations and business dialogue, determine which sanctions and counter-sanctions can be avoided and which canceled as the key stages of the reconciliation process are reached.

    8. Introduce an economic recovery plan aimed at eliminating the damage caused during the conflict, providing the necessary humanitarian assistance and restoring the required infrastructure. To initiate a multilateral process for this and encourage all its participants, primarily representatives of the business community, to joint investments.

    9. Create and coordinate special agreements on the association and trade of Ukraine with both the European Union and Russia, and later, possibly with the Eurasian Economic Community, in order to stabilize the Ukrainian economy, which will allow the Ukrainian company to create new jobs, improve long-term growth prospects and achieve international competitiveness.

    10. In the very near future, to hold a summit in Geneva with the participation of the highest political leadership of Europe and the European countries involved in the problem, Russia, Ukraine and the United States, in order to achieve progress in reconciliation.
  10. Russ69
    Russ69 16 September 2014 19: 16
    +2
    And here is the list, bureaucrats and oligarchs. I’m not tired of hoping for GDP, all his friends gathered ...

    Kurt Bock (Chairman of the Board of Directors, BASF, Germany)
    Anatoly Chubais (Chairman of the Board, RUSNANO, Russian Federation)
    German Gref (President and Chairman of the Board of Sberbank, Russian Federation)
    Werner Hoyer (President, European Investment Bank (EIB), Luxembourg)
    Natalya Yaresko (Chief Executive Officer, Horizon Capital, Ukraine)
    Joe Keser (President and CEO of Siemens, Germany)
    Klaus Kleinfeld (CEO, Alcoa, USA)
    Andrey Kostin (President and Chairman of the Management Board of VTB, Russian Federation)
    Alexey Mordashov (General Director of Severstal OJSC, Russian Federation)
    Indra Nuyi (Chairman and CEO, PepsiCo, USA)
    Victor Pinchuk (founder of EastOne Group, Ukraine)
    Philippe Rösler (Executive Director, World Economic Forum, Switzerland)
    Klaus Schwab (Chair, World Economic Forum, Switzerland)
    Sergey Taruta (Governor of the Donetsk region, Ukraine)
    Evgeniy Utkin (Chairman of the Board of Directors and General Director of KM Core, Ukraine)
    Mark Weinberger (CEO Ernst & Young, USA)
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 16 September 2014 19: 31
      +4
      And here is the list, bureaucrats and oligarchs. Not tired of hoping for GDP, all his friends gathered.


      Something I don’t see in this list of people really holding power in RUSSIA .... those that are listed are just representatives of interested clans both in RUSSIA and in the WEST.
      1. Alf
        Alf 16 September 2014 20: 39
        +8
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Something I don’t see in this list of people really holding power in RUSSIA .... those that are listed are just representatives of interested clans both in RUSSIA and in the WEST.

        To MANAGE, it is not necessary to sit on the throne or stomp loudly and scream in the throne room. It is rather modestly to stand behind the screen and yank on the ropes from which the noises on other necks are woven.
        For the same redhead, for the same Gref, cases of such thickness can be collected, or maybe already collected, that each of them can be safely assigned "10 years of severe executions."
      2. Russ69
        Russ69 16 September 2014 21: 45
        -1
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Something I do not see in this list of people really holding power in RUSSIA

        That is, the head, two large state-owned banks, nobody?
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 16 September 2014 20: 08
      +1
      These are people "about nothing". They have no real power, and have not entered the corridors of power for a long time.
      1. Alf
        Alf 16 September 2014 20: 40
        +3
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        They do not possess any real power, and for a long time they have not entered the corridors of power.

        If they were not in, they would have long spoken to the Apostle Peter.
    3. 70BSN
      70BSN 16 September 2014 20: 49
      +2
      You showed the filling, and also the list which is covered with "glaze"!
    4. Vitaly72
      Vitaly72 16 September 2014 21: 19
      +3
      when will this red scum die?
      1. Oldwiser
        Oldwiser 17 September 2014 13: 54
        0
        when he Dunyasha dust in dinner sprinkle
    5. Flatter
      Flatter 17 September 2014 00: 36
      +1
      The oligarchy appoints top officials, and the people either agree with the choice or not by popular vote. Not once, Zyuganov mentioned, we are working out a good law in the Duma, we are giving it to the government, and it lies with them, it gets dusty and it will not be known when it will be considered. Whose interests is it? Zhirinovsky in the Crimea, let's appoint the autocrat of the whole of the Russian Federation as an autocrat, all the same, the farce election. He must get rid of the oligarchs. How?
      1. Oldwiser
        Oldwiser 17 September 2014 13: 55
        0
        the most radical way is the nationalization of large production assets (rather than the privatization of government packages)
    6. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 17 September 2014 13: 52
      0
      "Blacklist" for the killer
  11. vitaz
    vitaz 16 September 2014 19: 17
    +4
    One way out - Kiev should be ours
    1. korjik
      korjik 16 September 2014 20: 13
      +5
      What does Kiev have to be ours? Ukraine on the border of 45 years !!! And so that not a single Bandera bastard had time to escape!
      1. Leonardo
        Leonardo 16 September 2014 22: 41
        0
        And I would not give up the borders of the Russian Empire.
        .... all the time ....
      2. Oldwiser
        Oldwiser 17 September 2014 13: 57
        0
        and "especially Svidomo" - VMN, and repentant - to Siberia, for medical and labor therapy
  12. Proud.
    Proud. 16 September 2014 19: 19
    +6
    Independently, three local residents told Panorama that they had seen a missile system in a separatist-controlled area a few hours before the Boeing incident.Are these these?
    1. Alan
      Alan 16 September 2014 21: 07
      +1
      About native Yugorsk in the photo.
  13. RusDV
    RusDV 16 September 2014 19: 19
    +3
    According to the latest most up-to-date unbiased data, Putin introduced the Russian military to Ukraine right in the Russian form, which everyone, without taking this form off, made all kinds of things, and shot down a plane that was immediately identified by eyewitnesses as a civilian at a height of ten kilometers, and left playing accordions.

    sort of funny ... but somehow sad .... I think we need to reconsider our attitude towards revenge. Yes, this is not our method ... but Europe and pin.Dosia only deserve it ....
  14. kush62
    kush62 16 September 2014 19: 20
    +1
    To what extent has Europe been crushed. Even realizing that to a greater extent he does the trick itself,
    still worn with these sanctions. He does not dare to scream against patrons - democratizers from across the ocean. We liberated Europe from the Nazis, and the Americans took advantage.
  15. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 16 September 2014 19: 21
    +1
    But it is funny to me that the Netherlands understand and know that their citizens were killed by dill as directed by the United States. Together they developed this whole scam. And by the way, they were preparing their abomination against our PRESIDENT. But the cockles shot down the Malaysian liner ...
    1. 00105042
      00105042 16 September 2014 21: 28
      0
      Do you think the Dutch would have so easily agreed to the death of their fellow citizens? In attacks of this magnitude and complexity there are always overlaps, mistakes, and here too much is at stake. Therefore, it’s absolutely certain that the corpses of Dutch homeless people, illegal migrants, unclaimed relatives of the blind men were on the plane .The photo from the scene of the disaster clearly shows that the corpses to varying degrees of decomposition, some were frozen and thawed many times. There are no children at all, but there are hundreds of soft toys so that they probably fall into the lens, and this squeezed a tear from the western man in the street menacingly clenched their fists in hatred of the Russian barbarians. Unfortunately, in the West the number of thinking, unbombed people is less and less every year ...
  16. va3610
    va3610 16 September 2014 19: 23
    +4
    Yes, how much you can lull one and the same thing, but they went in the ass.
    1. Akvadra
      Akvadra 16 September 2014 19: 36
      +1
      Quote: va3610
      Yes, how much you can lull one and the same thing, but they went in the ass.

      They will "mumble" until they convince the very last Pindos and Gay European of this. They do not try to convince us of this. Or rather, not really, they try. Is that for Makarka and other renegades. These attempts to lie to the bulk of people either make them laugh or make them angry.
  17. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 16 September 2014 19: 24
    +1
    The West is masochists! They just need torture. Without them they are ill, they think they would provoke someone, maybe they will get over it. So maybe they will make a schedule, turn, we will grimace them and everyone is fine ...
  18. cap54
    cap54 16 September 2014 19: 28
    +3
    We do nothing on the Ukrainian conflict - sanctions,
    We are doing something - sanctions ...
    So is it worth paying attention to some SANCTIONS out there ???
    But to answer with all the proletarian cruelty - it is NECESSARY !!!
  19. Reserve officer
    Reserve officer 16 September 2014 19: 32
    +4
    Quote: Kibalchish
    It's like that. But nobody cares. Russia and the militias in the West have already been appointed guilty.

    We are always bad for them, by definition.


    Bad, right. But not always, but only with the advent of Putin. Under the former president, friendship with the Americans simply went wild. All surrendered that they could. And suddenly the circus ended. How so? And at once the former friends had misunderstanding and perplexity. And in near individuals, misunderstanding always gives rise to aggression.
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 17 September 2014 14: 01
      0
      like interrupted sexual intercourse
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  21. shelva
    shelva 16 September 2014 19: 46
    +1
    Only the “elite” are informed, and the “masses” are misinforming, so all the media are a source of constant misinformation, the purpose of which is to create a collective representation of the surrounding reality in the interests of those “elite” who pay more.
  22. olegkrava
    olegkrava 16 September 2014 19: 48
    0
    Quote: master 84
    Russia doesn’t care about their main goal

    ....................................... and I would look into the eyes of witnesses, just look .
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 16 September 2014 20: 43
      0
      Quote: olegkrava
      I would look into the eyes of witnesses

      They may not exist at all. Because it does not matter whether they were or were not. Test tubes were enough to attack Iraq. This is an attack on us, this is a war, albeit a cold one (for now). The modern Ukraine they created here is used as casus belli, as it is completely controlled by the Americans.
  23. Former military doctor
    Former military doctor 16 September 2014 19: 53
    +8
    Gopnik damn
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 17 September 2014 14: 02
      0
      Kwakin and GOP Gay Company
  24. pahom54
    pahom54 16 September 2014 20: 05
    +4
    Honestly, I’m already tired of reading all this nasty stuff ...
    The author tried to explain the reason:

    "... there is a force that absolutely ignores all treaties and agreements. This force is the nationalists ...
    Therefore, there will be no peace ... "

    I would like to say that the nationalists of Rukhland and the Porosenkovs and the like boars like them are also puppets led by the supposedly invisible hand of the world shadow shobla ...

    "... The war in Ukraine is not a question of New Russia. It is not even a question of Kiev. It is not a question of Berlin or Moscow. This is a war for Eurasia. ALL Eurasia ..." ...

    And here the author is right, unfortunately.
    Therefore, Russia, if possible, has long had to score for this entire state-owned company and go its own way, as long as there is an opportunity ...
    1. Tyumen
      Tyumen 16 September 2014 21: 31
      0
      Yes, everyone thinks so, but there is Big Politics, which we can only guess from its results in our own skin.
    2. Sandov
      Sandov 16 September 2014 22: 43
      0
      Quote: pahom54
      "... The war in Ukraine is not a question of New Russia. It is not even a question of Kiev. It is not a question of Berlin or Moscow. This is a war for Eurasia. ALL Eurasia ..." ...

      Who owns Eurasia - that owns the world.
  25. Iline
    Iline 16 September 2014 20: 14
    +3
    I don’t even feel sorry for people who knowing (or guessing) about the truth, contrary to their conscience and for thirty pieces of silver that sold their souls. I just despise them.
  26. Styx
    Styx 16 September 2014 21: 10
    0
    psaki charm

    author burns not childishly laughing so to speak, it is a sin to laugh at the wretched
  27. svd-xnumx
    svd-xnumx 16 September 2014 22: 13
    0
    “They spoke pure Russian. They pronounce “d” differently, ”he said.

    His words were confirmed by the second witness, who added that the officer accompanying the “Beech” in the jeep spoke with a “Moscow accent”.
    As far as I have not heard, Russians from Donbass speak exactly as we have in the north of the Bryansk region (in the southern regions of the Bryansk region, the language is felt to be related to Ukraine).
    And on account of the fact that the West wants to force the people of Russia to "throw off" Putin with sanctions, they are deeply mistaken (if only the goal is our rich, who will also "fall for the grandmother" and decide to stage a coup, which has already been voiced by some character. The oligarchs are using this situation now they will start asking Putin for any indulgences
    (tax breaks, raising tariffs and energy prices inside Russia), and here it’s important not to give him slack). Not one country against whom the sanctions were imposed did this plan work with an uprising of the people, until external aggression began with the elimination of the national leader. this crap with sanctions only to weaken our economy and the military-industrial complex, and eventually take us by the gills by military means (if the plan does not work with the traitors oligarchs)
  28. salomeeff
    salomeeff 16 September 2014 22: 18
    +2
    Guest workers from Ukraine ... in Moscow are saying that we have stolen Crimea from them, and the Rada is adopting a law in which militias are amnestied, except for "participants in the tragedy with Boeing." It's funny and only, according to the Russian proverb "a hat burns on a thief," and the dill themselves grab onto the hat. They were brainwashed and bombarded by the Americans and their agents from the Ukrainians perfectly (our leaders overslept this "washing" for more than twenty years). But now winter is rolling in the eyes and there he will see who will ride.
  29. brdnxela
    brdnxela 16 September 2014 22: 39
    0
    100 years is a period of world wars. We are waiting ..17
  30. sokrat7
    sokrat7 16 September 2014 23: 13
    0
    How tired I am of hearing, reading about all these sanctions, hearing constant lies from the lips of senior EU and US officials. In Ukraine, the population has massive insanity, and the leadership is people who are completely deprived of conscience, honor, dignity. The leaders of the EU member states are no better. They urgently need psychiatrists. And the bigger and faster the better.
  31. pvv113
    pvv113 16 September 2014 23: 16
    +8
    from Washington’s point of view, “Russia needs to be forced to pay an even higher price”
  32. Cristall
    Cristall 16 September 2014 23: 27
    +1
    Every time I have a question ... well, from Ukraine, some problems of sanctions, screams and all that .. I'm sure that the very word "Ukraine" every day on the central channels has already gotten all Russians.
    If VO is a Ukrainian review for a long time. What can be said about others ...
    So the question itself - after all, everyone here knew how the Maidan could end in case of his victory. Everyone knew what it was fraught with. But still it was an "internal problem of Ukraine" ...
    That is, then they knew but no steps no action .. Sadomasochism turns out ...
    It was possible to solve everything in the bud.
    In December, everything was rotten ... with ideas and maydanuty ...
    We are always waiting for everything to "resolve" itself ...
    And in January a "doctor" came ... and "heals" ... a patient. And now it all won't go away by itself ..
  33. Alfizik
    Alfizik 17 September 2014 00: 09
    0
    It is necessary to remember everyone who lies about Russia, including the "eyewitnesses", and then drive everyone out in front of witnesses at the lie detector. This should be talked about loudly so that every potential witness or eyewitness knows his possible fate.
  34. Zomanus
    Zomanus 17 September 2014 06: 37
    0
    Yes, really dill few people besides us. It is clear that this is purely an occasion and our enemies need it purely as a training ground for the war. A landfill on which there is nothing but fragments of bombs and shells in the ground. And we suffer, suffer mentally ...
  35. Wolka
    Wolka 17 September 2014 08: 44
    0
    emotionally, and only ...
  36. Signature
    Signature 17 September 2014 12: 10
    0
    Chekhov’s syllable was conquered by Roman Nosikov (this is not to be an ungrateful reader and, in general, to pay tribute to what he deserves).
    And as for the article, one thin personal remark (however, literally many said something like that).
    It is customary to think that Europe is rationalism, logic, a classical culture of thought obedient to the intellect. But it turns out that everything is quite the opposite (in the sense of a thinking Europe). An ordinary police officer - wherever he happens to live and conduct an investigation - is trained to start by answering the question: whose profit does the criminal act serve. But it is absolutely true that in the case of the dead Boeing, both Russia and the militias are the last in line for any benefits. So, inevitably, you begin to suspect that the decent philistine population of Western Europe has self-annihilated the ability to think (according to the scenario elaboration of the pessimistic proverb "A full belly is deaf to sciences").
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