Oles Buzin: Results of mobilization in Ukrainian

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Oles Buzin: Results of mobilization in Ukrainian


Ukraine has completed the third wave of mobilization. The first wave was mainly volunteers from Central and Western Ukraine. There were many people who did not even get into the army - they were denied. Then it became clear that what is happening in the Donbass is no ATO (as the government Yatsenyuk and Poroshenko officially called this operation), this is the real war. That's when volunteers and volunteers diminished.

Results of mobilization in Ukrainian

People began to leave Ukraine, hide in the villages, especially since we officially have no war - we have not declared martial law, and the maximum that threatens a person who did not take a subpoena is an administrative fine in the 51 hryvnia. And that, only in the event that the military registration and enlistment office wins the court in two instances and the decision enters into force. And in the military registration and enlistment office there is no lawyer in practice, therefore no one will file a lawsuit against this person.

The situation is also cynical, because, on the one hand, the government is waging the most real war, but on the other hand, it is as if there is no war, and people are attracted for this by deception. That is, the state also deceives those mobilized: people do not get the status of a combatant, people are actually being tricked into the army - they think that they are facing a term for desertion, but in fact they face a fine of 51 hryvnia. But the overwhelming majority of people here, unfortunately, are watching TV, where the same endless talk show with the same fighting roosters of the oligarchs is going on. They study their legal rights and then defend them later, as it should be in any civilized state.

The third wave of mobilization was very hard. It became clear that the army suffered defeat in the east. Donetsk and Lugansk failed to take, the retreat began. Moreover, there is always a question - will Poroshenko surrender to Mariupol or not to return the LC and the DPR?

Naturally, there is no strength to continue the offensive. Yes, and there is no technology either, because 2 / 3 of the Ukrainian technology is lost in these battles, and there is no money to buy a new one. Just in practice, checked that this war can not be won by the Government of Ukraine. This is a war, above all, of the oligarchs. It does not need people. People are fooling their heads through the TV with paid rogues. And then the people go and die.

Nobody will return parents to children, husbands - to wives, mothers - children. And no one will incur any punishment for it. Find only scapegoats, who are called traitors. They are sought among the generals.

In fact, it is based on what else Charles Maurice de Talleyrand considered more terrible than betrayal - a mistake. In Soviet times, it was said that the KGB was to blame for everything, which was just the instrument of the party. So in Soviet times, the Communist Party was responsible for everything in Ukraine, at the head of which was Leonid Kravchuk. And in our times, political leadership must also be responsible for everything.

The political decision for the ATO in the Donbass took Turchinov, and then Poroshenko. The switchmen, who will be appointed because they allegedly fought badly, are just switchmen. Similarly, during the First World War, Russia was looking for scapegoats and got bogged down in espionage, although in fact it was an erroneous political decision - to leave the country in a war.

From the very beginning it was clear that there was no military solution in the Donbas. I suspect that official Kiev decided on this war for two reasons. On the one hand, Poroshenko, Turchinov, Yatsenyuk underestimated the enemy. They thought they could win, and quickly. But already in Slavyansk it became clear that no quick victory would succeed.

Another reason is very cynical, but I can not discount it. I suspect that the oligarchs who stood behind the Maidan wanted to destroy during the war the main activists, the most ideologically charged people, who joined the volunteer battalions and largely died in the civil war with the ideologically charged insurgents of the DPR and the LPR.

The reason for this war, I believe, was precisely in these two factors, except for the third factor - the United States, which pressured the government in Kiev, primarily because they wanted to take control of shale gas in the Donbas and, thus compete with Gazprom in Europe. This has drawn Ukraine into a long war, which, on the one hand, is civil, and on the other, is the result of a geopolitical confrontation, primarily between Russia and the United States.
And to stop the war, we need political will. Errors need to be corrected.

We need to start the negotiation process. It is necessary to see in people in the southeast not Colorado, but simply people who have their own requirements. It is necessary to understand that a revolution of dignity is also taking place in the southeast, an anti-oligarchic revolution.
Look at the new leaders of the south-east, on the same Zakharchenko. It is evident that this is a young man who is not yet forty years old. He rose from the bottom. This is the one whom Yanukovych strangled in the Donbass in due time, because the PR destroyed any counter-elite of this region so that, God forbid, it did not rise there. And I very much doubt that the DPR and LPR will leave the property to the Donetsk oligarchs who fled to Kiev. If they wanted to do this, then the people would not want it to remain in the hands of escaped oligarchs.

In the south-east there is a social, red revolution. And when people return from the war, they will ask Kiev: and with what joy we have to pay a loan for an apartment, taken in 2008, at the peak of prices, when it cost 100 thousand dollars. Now this apartment can not be sold even for 40 thousand. Why on earth? Why should we be sent into battle by people who hid their children abroad and put them into a major battalion to protect the Cote d'Azur in France? Why should we pay these prices for apartments, for water, for gas and everything else? We were promised Europe, European integration and paradise - and where is this paradise? And in Kiev, too, the revolution will begin.

A revolutionary situation has clearly arisen. In Kiev, the revolution will go along the social-national channel, as in Italy after the First World War, when Mussolini came to power.

Poroshenko understands this, which is why, on the one hand, he is trying to quickly conclude at least some peace in the southeast, at least some truce, so that the red revolution from the east does not come to Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov, Odessa. On the other hand, he is trying to blow off steam through legal valves, and he has only one legal valve - special elections. And those people who do not see the point in the elections and do not understand why Poroshenko holds them, forget that legally, of course, there are no reasons for these elections. But there is a practical reason for Poroshenko, the leader of the comprador bourgeoisie, and this is only one reason - to throw off steam, replace some political faces that are boring voters with others, urgently so that the uprising does not explode in Kiev.
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  1. VICTOR-61
    +20
    15 September 2014 08: 00
    Of these, it remains to mobilize
    1. VICTOR-61
      +19
      15 September 2014 08: 03
      Or mobilize from such volunteers
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    2. +5
      15 September 2014 08: 31
      Quote: VICTOR-61
      Of these, it remains to mobilize


      Although, to be honest, it's not funny. That nonsense that is in power and before the "sixth wave" of mobilization will reach .... As Mikhail Evdokimov used to say, "There is no mind" ....
    3. Past_ Crocodile
      +5
      15 September 2014 08: 34
      Draw more, master photo * operas. I would rather think than Russia should respond to these nits.
    4. 0
      15 September 2014 10: 31
      Sensible people in Ukraine do not want to die for the interests of their oligarchs and the Washington Regional Committee.
  2. +2
    15 September 2014 08: 02
    still to come ... hi
  3. +3
    15 September 2014 08: 03
    The line between trolling and Ukrainian reality has become barely distinguishable. But ukropatrioty persistent, they will go.
    1. +3
      15 September 2014 08: 28
      Quote: yana532912
      The line between trolling and Ukrainian reality has become barely distinguishable. But ukropatrioty persistent, they will go.

      I don’t know how about the patriots of Ukraine who really want to fight (I haven’t met). I know only 1 couch strategist and a few Bendera men that at our place they are hiding from waves of mobilization.
      1. +4
        15 September 2014 10: 21
        For me, the worst thing is that on the other side there are also normal guys who believe that they are fighting for the integrity of their country, or just for dead friends - and not for the interests of the nits of the aligarchs and the United States. Americans managed to make of those who could be with us in the same ranks of our enemies ... And they continue their work throughout the territory of the former USSR, including Russia ...
        1. +2
          15 September 2014 16: 10
          You can certainly feel sorry for such "normal" guys .. so that they have a little common sense added from this, as well as an ordinary human conscience ..!
          These patriots allegedly have the integrity of their country, which today, in the same ranks as the National Guard, and even in its ranks, as well as the Armed Forces of Ukraine, are raiding the residential areas of SE Ukraine, raping girls and women, robbing and killing defenseless old people and children in the territories occupied by them, those who think differently are brutally beaten up, especially to captured militias ... !!
          Involuntarily, the heart is contracting, when now, after the exchange of prisoners, they are telling how they were kept, beaten, and mocked at by these false patriots ...!
          Let’s regret them, we don’t seem to know what they are doing for their independent Ukraine !!!
          It seems that God is their judge, let these "maydanutye" frolic!
          So they are zealous — the army of Satan and the devil, destroying the Slavic temples of God by artillery fire, persecuting, beating and killing the spiritual fathers and parishioners of the church, planting only one religion-national-fascism of Bandera and its henchmen!
          And these are normal guys! ??? Chur, as the magi would tell you!
          These are ghouls in human guise, from which all behavioral filters have been removed and there is nothing normal in them - militant madness and sadism!
          And the fact that they do not understand who and in the name of what they are using, is there an excuse for them from those whom they have deprived not only of shelter, but of life! ??
          For all those whose hearts and fists are clenched from their atrocities and who, driven by conscience and honor, then join the ranks of volunteers from Russia and not only and go to defend Novorossia from such "normal"
          Let the earth burn under these "normal", as well as all nationalist-fascists for innocent blood, suffering
          and the horrors of this dirty war in SE and they do not deserve pity ..!
          They are a plague of the 21st century in the vastness of Ukraine and a direct danger
          for Russia and the whole world!
      2. 0
        15 September 2014 11: 42
        Quote: ImperialKolorad
        I know only 1 couch strategist and a few Bendera men that at our place they are hiding from waves of mobilization.

        So hand them over to the appropriate services, and you’ll get a cleaner job and will not take normal ones to the war instead.
  4. +13
    15 September 2014 08: 03
    Yeah ... "Revolution" in Ukrainian:
    They drove out the fools who stole, in order to put in their place the fools who kill ...
    And now what to do with the latter, no one in Ukraine knows ... After all, no one likes to admit their mistakes ... All the more, Svidomo, who, as they themselves think, are never mistaken at all ... So the trouble is in Ukraine long-playing ... A pity ...
  5. +1
    15 September 2014 08: 04
    As in the proverb, they ate, they drank.
  6. +4
    15 September 2014 08: 04
    to replace some political faces annoying voters with others, urgently, so that an uprising does not explode in Kiev...The faces that he replaces will not agree that they were replaced ... Tear off from such a feeder ... some and put others .... Who will allow ...
  7. +22
    15 September 2014 08: 05
    I apologize to those who are fighting for the truth, but there are also such ...
  8. +4
    15 September 2014 08: 11
    Another reason is very cynical, but I can not discount it. I suspect that the oligarchs who stood behind the Maidan wanted to destroy during the war the main activists, the most ideologically charged people, who joined the volunteer battalions and largely died in the civil war with the ideologically charged insurgents of the DPR and the LPR.

    This was understandable from the very beginning of the mess. As soon as the children who had tasted the blood appeared, it became clear that then they would have to be put out somewhere, and it would be best to eliminate them. Since the war against Ruin was predicted again from the very beginning of the mess, the best way out is to eliminate the marginal passionaries in battles.
    1. +7
      15 September 2014 08: 42
      It's like in "Ivan Vasilyevich Changes His Profession": to send the archers to the Izium Shlyakh so that they do not shout that "the tsar is not real"
    2. +1
      15 September 2014 13: 25
      this is generally the standard way to recycle revolutionaries
      otherwise they would have to be shot by ourselves
  9. +3
    15 September 2014 08: 16
    Welcome all!“There were many people who did not even get into the army - they were refused. Then it became clear that what was happening in Donbass - this is not ATO (as the government of Yatsenyuk and Poroshenko officially called this operation), this is a real war."- dual feelings from this phrase ... recourse
    1. VICTOR-61
      +5
      15 September 2014 08: 31
      While such heroes of New Russia are standing, fascism is not afraid of us, we will beat them until the dill enemy is defeated
    2. 0
      15 September 2014 11: 32
      And what is there ambiguous? To soak "chukhanyh quilted jackets and Colorado" in their own apartments as they wanted in Kiev, it was already itching in a causal place! And when they tore this place on footcloths of the Novorossiys, then their agility diminished, they began to dive through the cracks, or even in general to swear at the cursed Rashka under the guise of refugees! They could be caught here in Russia and handed over to Parashenka in exchange for ours at the expense of the 4th wave of mobilization. Or under some kind of humanitarian pretense to shake off in the EU - let them smell the long-awaited European happiness as an outsider. In Russia, this dandruff under Salupnaya is not needed!
  10. +4
    15 September 2014 08: 19
    How many more months will this go on?

    Although now the global masters flew .... then some Spanish deliveries .... damn bad that's all.

    A lot of influential countries, lobbies, societies. Rejoice at the current conflict near our border !!

    Transnistria, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Ossetia, Armenia, Yugoslavia, Chechnya, let’s get tired of listing, now Ukraine.

    The question is where? all the same, is this democracy really rushing?

    And henna would walk there. TIME AND WAR - MONEY!
    1. +1
      15 September 2014 08: 46
      Quote: DEZINTO
      How many more months will this go on?

      What are you speaking about? What months? The process has become permanent. These are years (if successful) or the 4th World War, with all the ensuing global consequences.
  11. +1
    15 September 2014 08: 24
    Mobilization? Yes and figs with her. At the same time, ultras walk quietly through the streets, parades of embroidered dresses and other events calmly pass. So another divorce, earning lenient military commissars.
  12. +4
    15 September 2014 08: 24
    Poroshenko would bake his sweets ...
    Kolomoisky would breed his pigs, and he would not be left without work, as one in one looks like a boar ...
    Turchinov’s sermon would be read astray ...
    Yaytsenyuk in the suburban sandbox would play ...
    Julia would continue to knock on the door with his heel ...
    Nooo..yu .. everyone had to do everything so that the state of UKRAINE did not appear on the map ...

    EVERYONE SHOULD JUDGE THE COURT OF THE WORLD, BEGINNING FROM DARK-BROWN OBAMA AND THE LIGHT-SKIN FASCIST MERKEL.
  13. +1
    15 September 2014 08: 24
    Nothing, nothing. The next mobilization will go to the forests, to harvest firewood. For dill has no other option, so as not to freeze until spring.
  14. +7
    15 September 2014 08: 25
    Yesterday at Solovyov's "Sunday Evening" he read a small rhyme, I really liked it:
    "What did you stand for on the Maidan?
    Why did they pour human blood?
    For prices to rise
    And again cry x o x s?
    For Crimea to become Moscow again,
    And so that Donbass becomes Donbass.
    For the share of Ukraine
    Decided in Europe p and d a r s. "

    Well done, competent, adequate comrade.
  15. djtyysq
    +12
    15 September 2014 08: 30
    Powder and Lyashkotnya! Let grandfathers die of old age, not a heart attack!
  16. Esei
    +4
    15 September 2014 08: 30
    How can one go and have some common goals, views with a person to put it mildly, non-standard orientation, more simply put ... m. Lyashko is a symbol of decay, loss, the fall of morals, the fall of all things human.
  17. +1
    15 September 2014 08: 31
    the Ukrainians immediately after the onset of the Novorossiya militia began to fight sharply with the Russian troops. The words separatists and terrorists have been forgotten. Lutsenko generally behaves extremely hysterically in connection with the election race. Geletey's press conference is generally the height of insanity, he believes that the ukroarmiya is not to blame, "they are fighting with the regular army of Russia," they are retreating with practically no losses, and meanwhile inflicting enormous damage. Near Ilovaisk, there are 200 casualties. On all talk shows and grief ukroanalysts name Putin is pronounced hundreds of times. The problem of Donbass, ATO and Ukraine in their sick heads rises to the universal, it is believed that Putin all day long and thinks how to capture them "nenko". To tell the truth, the accent of the guilty has shifted towards stupid generals, but Putin certainly prevails. Now the main hope is for military assistance from the West, they will give a high-rise and there will be a reversal, again with the help of an unfounded statement by Lutsenko and Geletey, I don't know which of them blurted out earlier. Among public people, oddly enough, the real protest of the Gunpowder policy and the women hedgehog with them is, Royal on Shuster Live spoke in favor of dialogue with the people of Donbass, such a screeching rose, the same Lutsenko immediately recorded her as an enemy, the audience generally slammed her, a brave woman ... Bondarenko can really fear for his life. Ruslana on the shuster also sometimes cuts the truth about the gum disaster in the southeast, but she has nothing to fear, she is in the trend among the right-wing people.
  18. +2
    15 September 2014 08: 39
    The author plus, everything is correctly written, it is not for nothing that the National Guardians squeal that they are deliberately sent to the slaughter, to the tanks and art of Novorossiya, after which no one is killed, who is wounded or crippled, someone from what he saw dumped into the "Rostov mountains"
  19. +1
    15 September 2014 08: 39
    I'd like to see the ruins of phasington and london. War and politics are a derivative of the economy. And now the financial circles of the West are trying to solve their problems at the expense of Russia and Europe, while Ukraine as such does not interest anyone. But the financiers do not understand that it’s easy to start shooting, but it’s very difficult to stop.
  20. +1
    15 September 2014 08: 42
    The line between trolling and Ukrainian reality has become barely distinguishable. But ukropatrioty persistent, they will go.
    I don’t know how about the patriots of Ukraine who really want to fight (I haven’t met). I know only 1 couch strategist and a few Bendera men that at our place they are hiding from waves of mobilization.

    And why does our FMS still not know about them? Quickly arrange for them "suitcase - station - Banderiya", let them hide "at Lviv" ...
  21. +2
    15 September 2014 08: 51
    What Buzin wrote is designed for at least some sanity, and there are no such people in Ukraine among those who are in power! The role of the USA and the West in this conflict has been underestimated! Everything will continue to evolve in the worst case scenario.
  22. Signature
    +2
    15 September 2014 09: 06
    I wonder if a person who has lost his mind and conscience once and for all is asked by the whole world (and from morning to evening, for thirty years in a row) - to ask him to return to a normal state of rationality and unmorality? Will help? But such a reaction is automatically revealed in me when I publish new calls to the Kiev authorities to “hear the East”. Excuse me, but how can they hear? Are you sure that the corresponding organ (receptor) of perception is still preserved in their organisms and has not atrophied? So you can cry to the Wailing Wall for a thousand years, so that it cries with us human tears.
    But thanks for the article (of course)!
  23. +5
    15 September 2014 09: 11
    I do not believe in an imminent revolution in Kiev - rejection of the will of the South-East of Ukraine is too widespread and stable among the population. While most of the so-called citizens of Ukraine, dumbfounded by UkroSMI, will stand up for the destruction of "separatists" and "Colorado" in Donbass, there can be no talk of any, even social-nationalist rebellion. The riot in Kiev over a decline in living standards and higher prices in the current conditions of stout nationalism and Russophobic psychosis, as well as against the background of promises like "The West will help us" - this is just a ghostly Wishlist!
    Those who could really oppose and lead others like those who disagree with the policies of the Ukrainian leadership, crushed the civil war in the Donbass to dust, or made it less loud and decisive.
    So you should not expect any upheavals and the changes caused by them in the Kiev government in the near future!
    "We didn't make a scandal.
    We did not get the leader.
    Real violent few
    here and there are no leaders !!! "
    1. yur58
      0
      15 September 2014 09: 56
      Winter cold (in Kiev, the housing and communal services adopted a document which established that the temperature in the apartments will be maintained at 14 degrees, in real life it will be less, along with fan cut-offs), food and energy prices will do the trick.
  24. +2
    15 September 2014 09: 12
    Still cunning a little Oles. I watched the show. Trying not to talk about the origins of the conflict. I mean the delayed accession to the EU until January 2016. Because all the victims of Ukraine turned out to be meaningless. It is time for Yanukovych to show up and say ....: Well, I told you !!! And you...:
  25. Starmos
    +1
    15 September 2014 09: 33
    Quote: DEZINTO
    How many more months will this go on?

    To infinity. As long as Nazism, fostered by overseas "partners", is alive. Does Russia need a friendly, fraternal Ukraine? So the destruction of the Nazi regime is Roosia's business. It will not work in another way, unfortunately ... Look at the ukrov ...
  26. +1
    15 September 2014 09: 38
    Respect to you, Oles Buzin, you are one of the few Ukrainians who have not lost their heads. But I am afraid that the Great October Fascist Revolution will come in Ukraine.
    1. 0
      15 September 2014 11: 16
      In my opinion - it has already arrived! The fascists are in power, and after the "elections" in the Rada, the Turchinovs and Lyashki will rule there. In comparison with which, some NSDAP leaders are small children!
  27. 0
    15 September 2014 09: 52
    It is necessary to wait for the October revolution, or the democratic government will force to disperse all those who disagree.
  28. 0
    15 September 2014 09: 53
    ATO, this is an anti-people terrorist operation.
  29. pahom54
    +4
    15 September 2014 09: 59
    Quote from the article:
    "In the southeast, there is a social, red revolution.
    In Kiev, the revolution will follow a social-national channel, as in Italy after the First World War, when Mussolini came to power "...

    Most likely the way it is. At the very least, Novorossiya has practically taken place, all that remains is to officially recognize it, and not only by Russia. However, Novorossiya proclaimed itself a "people's" republic, which means that there will be problems with a radical solution to the issue of property. And this, most likely, our, Russian moneybags and their purchased boyars in Du..e, will not be to their liking.

    In Kuev there is the possibility of fascist radicals coming to power. And this will also be a negative moment for Russia, since there will be a fascist state at hand (in fact, it already exists).

    Russia must decide: who is it - fascists or socialists? The question is ambiguous, and I think if I express my idea that it’s more profitable for our moneybags to have fascists close by, many will not support me at the HE, but, unfortunately, this actually takes place in life, as confirmed by the treacherous negotiations in Minsk with participation of Russia.
    The victory of Novorossia and its recognition to the Russian oligarchy are like a pitchfork, for the reason that when all industry is nationalized in Novorossia, they will set an example for the Russian people.
    Much, very much now depends on Putin ... I'm still waiting, when will he decide to chop the branch on which the oligarchs are sitting? Slowly he is leading to this, but this "slowly" already requires URGENT measures ...
    1. 0
      15 September 2014 12: 22
      our, Russian money bags and their purchased boyars in Du..e, will not fit the nut.


      On the inside, on the inside ...
      They are the first to seize this property ... not for nothing that they are now suffering our assistance to Novorossia.
  30. 0
    15 September 2014 10: 02
    But "the political faces that have bothered the voters" will not disappear, they will look out from behind new ones. And not only to look out. A very correct move of the regionals is not to go to the polls, and it would be good for Novorossia to hold its own elections, to its parliament. And on the same day as Kiev.
  31. avt
    +4
    15 September 2014 10: 02
    “I suspect that the official Kiev decided on this war for two reasons.” - request How difficult it is for a citizen of Ukraine, and even a completely reasonable one for himself, to admit a simple and fully confirmed fact - after the common people threw Ssynukovich out of the presidency and the local puppets in Kiev do not decide ANYTHING !! Whatever office they occupy in the former government building. Well, isn't it enough for Olesya to see the video with the American flag on the SBU, Nuland's telephone conversations about who to plant and on which branch? And the meeting of the "government" headed by Biden? Elderberry! But finally understand the simple truth - Ukraine, this is a reservation where just white Indians and the sheriff don't care about their problems! The pale-faced brothers of the natives of Ukraine, headed by the dark-faced leader, are solving their own questions and will be to decide to the last native in distant Ukraine! It is clear that I do not want to, but the project "Ukraine1991" will have to be forgotten. The players of the Big Game will cut new borders, which has already been told by National Geographic, the magazine is quite difficult for itself, the Geographical Society of us, where on the map of present-day Ukraine with Boundary Lines he marked Crimea and Novorossia with comments that these lands were donated to Ukraine by Russian rulers! That is, just in case, the preparation of the population to make a certain decision has already begun, Ukraine will simply be torn to pieces and not the god of all Ukraine, Putin, who is remembered on it both in “sorrow and joy”.
  32. +2
    15 September 2014 11: 14
    The third wave of mobilization has already ended in Ukraine. Soon it will come to this:
  33. 0
    15 September 2014 11: 15
    The correct article, although not as frank as it could be, is already actively being searched for switchmen. It is a pity that the true culprits of what happened will not be noticed by the OSCE, the United States and other carriers of European values. negative
  34. Yuriy_K
    0
    15 September 2014 11: 53
    Fighting with fascism and its Anschluss in Ukraine is useless. The only way Ukraine can win is non-resistance. Learn more how to use this weapon - http://daydoroguduraku.livejournal.com
  35. +3
    15 September 2014 12: 18
    In the entire history of Russia, there was not at her side, even more precisely, under her very nose, an enemy more subtle and sickening than the current "Ukraine". All former enemies were enemies as enemies, even there was some respect for them. But now ... They cause nothing but disgust! I believe that Russia should have a long-term priority - the complete elimination of this miscarriage of history! In any way, if not military, then at least political, even economic, even washing, even rolling, even a carcass, even a stuffed animal !!! This infection has already poisoned part of the Russian world, Russian civilization, and subsequent gangrene must not be allowed !!!
  36. 3vs
    +1
    15 September 2014 13: 06
    By November, we are waiting for the October Revolution in Kiev.
  37. +1
    15 September 2014 13: 20
    The complete grave of Ukraine!
  38. krivdaSPb
    +1
    15 September 2014 15: 15
    After watching a video in the next topic about how the Westerners meet the body of the "hero of Ukraine", I somehow no longer really believe that "no one wants to fight for a long time."
    For "them," all this abomination, as a "war for territory", has remained.
    It is only we see that People are fighting for People, and non-people are fighting for "their territorial fat".
    It is clear that the mother of the child of her beloved is not particularly willing to send to the slaughter.
    But the neighbors are definitely proud that the next hero went heroically crushing the Colorado.
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  40. 0
    15 September 2014 20: 29
    Good evening.
    There is reason to believe that the "hybridity" of the war in Ukraine lies in the fact that by any means the population disagreeing with Kiev's opinion will be destroyed. The first target of the hostilities was the armed forces of the DPR and LPR. It was not possible to win. The second goal is the infrastructure of the region as a whole. The fighting of the armed forces of the LPR and DPR practically disorganized the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Kiev has once again "raised the stakes" in this crazy game. The goal is to destroy the population by completely destroying the infrastructure of the DPR and LPR. Therefore, winter, first of all, will hit the citizens of the DPR and LPR. If in Kiev and other regions of Ukraine no one destroys sewer systems, water preparation and supply systems, heat and power supply systems, then in the LPR and DPR all vital objects are subject to systemic destruction.
  41. Simonov
    0
    15 September 2014 23: 02
    Someday all this nonsense created on Urkain will end. In a year, in two ....
    This country will never be the same. There will not be one that the maidan romantics dreamed of. If in Russia in the 80s there was a visionary anecdote "perestroika - shootout - roll call", then there probably won't be a roll call. Everyone will sit in their own trench and try to establish life in the ruins. To pay off the external debt, they will most likely give the Chinese a part of the coastline in the Odessa region on a 100-year concession. Gas pipes will be the subject of bargaining between local princelings and Kiev. Kiev will live by Velikoukr show-offs. The most active part of the population fled to Europe for part-time jobs.
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    15 September 2014 23: 34
    Something comrade Oles Buzina changed his point of view. A couple of months ago, I wrote how bad life is in Russia and what a life-loving nation-Ukrainians. Such a "moderate Banderite". Now what happened? Eyes opened or stopped paying for lies?
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    16 September 2014 04: 10
    The disagreements between Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk on the timing of the implementation of the association agreement with the EU are tense. They go to the polls in different blocks. It seems that the tank shooting of the Rada or the Poroshenko Administration is coming, the ATO will continue with the efforts of the National Guard, and Novorossia will penetrate the land corridor to Crimea.
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    16 September 2014 10: 46
    If it weren’t so sad, I probably laughed, but I’m not funny, maybe it’s worth it to channel the most terrible goats, especially without honor and conscience, those who say that someone needs to be killed, but I would like it to be within the legal framework , through court and work for the benefit of the people, but you need to start with the leadership, but unfortunately it will not condemn itself and will not heal, but it’s a pity to fight, but I don’t understand when it will end, because the goals are not formulated to the end parties, which means war without meaning.