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Russian Defense Ministry: Statements about the deaths of thousands of Russian soldiers in Ukraine - nonsense

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On Thursday, the spokesman for the Russian Defense Ministry, Major General Igor Konashenkov, said that the agency had denied information about the deaths of thousands of Russian servicemen in eastern Ukraine, who had spread the Ukrainian media, referring to the words of the representative of the National Security Council of Ukraine, Colonel Andrei Lysenko.

Russian Defense Ministry: Statements about the deaths of thousands of Russian soldiers in Ukraine - nonsense


“The Russian military department called“ nonsense ”a statement by the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Andrei Lysenko, referring to the data of the“ operational intelligence ”about the deaths of thousands of Russian servicemen in Ukraine,” the RIA reports "News".

According to the ministry, similar statements were made on September 3 by a certain “human rights activist” Elena Vasilyeva. According to Konashenkov, in this way Colonel Lysenko unwittingly surrendered the “illegal” operational intelligence of the military department of Ukraine.

“Now it’s clear what dictated the dismissal of 9 in September of the head of the intelligence department of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry, Colonel-General Sergei Gmyz, who created such a unique“ intelligence network, ”he said.

According to Konashenkov, they have repeatedly said that “fake” messages first become “facts from the ground,” and then they are picked up by leading Western media.

“Today, this“ carousel ”lacks only the last element. Namely, the publication of this nonsense in one of the leading Western publications. Apparently, it does not take long to wait, ”said a representative of the Russian defense ministry, stressing that sometimes Lysenko needs to read Ukrainian media before public statements.
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  1. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 12 September 2014 12: 12
    +11
    Prisoner exchange
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 12 September 2014 12: 15
      +5
      By lies, Ukrainian leaders want to cover up their inability to normally lead the country and the incompetent ATO command.
      1. Himalayan
        Himalayan 12 September 2014 12: 19
        0
        Yesterday on Russian federal channels showed Strelkov’s speech?
        ...
        1. Russ69
          Russ69 12 September 2014 12: 28
          +2
          Quote: Himalayan
          Yesterday on Russian federal channels showed Strelkov’s speech?

          Who will show it?
          For the Kremlin Shooters, which was in one place ...
          1. Dazdranagon
            Dazdranagon 12 September 2014 14: 22
            +1
            Quote: Russ69
            For the Kremlin Shooters, which was in one place ...
            - Well, I would not say ... He spoke quite well about Putin. hi
            1. Kindof
              Kindof 12 September 2014 16: 45
              +1
              Putin, the Kremlin and federal channels are not the same management vertical that we would like to have ..
        2. Oleg Sobol
          Oleg Sobol 12 September 2014 12: 56
          +1
          Quote: Himalayan
          Yesterday on Russian federal channels showed Strelkov’s speech?

          He refused to speak on federal channels. Based on what will they show?
        3. saturday86
          saturday86 12 September 2014 19: 47
          +3
          ARROW is a man with a capital letter, and PUTIN is PUTIN and no one can replace him yet, and this is not necessary. Everyone should do his own thing, his shooters, his Putin!
      2. Tyumen
        Tyumen 12 September 2014 12: 20
        +2
        And how does this compare with the exchange of prisoners?
      3. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 12 September 2014 12: 21
        +37
        Comment for Svidomo:

        The very fact that the allegedly Pskov assault division of the Russian Airborne Forces was destroyed by the forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is already an anecdote. In Ukraine, for 23 years, the army was not paid attention, it degraded, fell apart and disappeared. Actually, the ordinary Ukrainian people swam with fat, rarely where one could find sites where people from Ukraine in peacetime discussed the problems of the army, battle tactics, and rearmament problems. The lifelong dream of a Ukrainian boy from the village is to work as a cop or as a security guard, and for this they went to the army. Urban people, however, regarded the Ukrainian army as an anachronism. In Russia, after the second Chechen campaign, they drew conclusions. The army was constantly reformed and armed. The monetary allowance has been increased, and contractors are provided with housing, either ready-made, or in the form of a purchase certificate. Since 2012, in the RF Armed Forces, the firepower training of personnel has been increased 5 times !!! This is even more than under the USSR. In Ukraine, some people still think that Russian soldiers whitewash curbs in units and build dachas for generals. Your Ukrainian thinking stopped in the 90s, when we had a common information space, and together we watched the DMB series, a little later "Soldiers". But you got 1 + 1, ictv, Novy Kanal and others, you began to build your information space, where your heroes, victories and defeats, occasionally switching the remote control to the Russian channels that you had after 25 numbers were crammed into the box. And what is there in Raska? And, again fighting in the Caucasus, then the second time with Chechnya, then with Georgia, and how they do not end up with soldiers? The Russians are throwing corpses at the enemy, right? they don't know how to fight! But you have not watched other TV programs, where you have launched a whole TV channel dedicated to the Russian army "Zvezda", you have not watched the programs devoted to machine building and factories. Not interesting and boring? But the state is on it, on the real sector of the economy. But let's get back to the army. There are dozens of exercises and interactions between different types of troops alone, at the level of both brigades and regiments, and divisions. Coherence is being worked out. Our pilots have more flying hours per month than yours per year. Not only airborne forces from an aircraft, but also marines, and even mountain riflemen are parachuted up to 6-12 times a year. It doesn't matter the marines, or the airborne assault, they must be able to land from different elements, even from strangers. But how do you consumers who have been mowing down from the army for generations to know this? You are so degraded that you believed that the head of a MANPADS can hover over an air conditioner !!!! And this is a country that was part of the USSR 23 years ago, where even children in schools disassembled and assembled machines for a while

        Comment lasted 2 hours under this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ2XRZoUfSo deleted !!!
        1. enot73
          enot73 12 September 2014 12: 43
          +10
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          The fact that the allegedly Pskov assault division of the Russian Airborne Forces was destroyed by the forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is already a joke.
          In the reality ,
          even if even a fifth of the Pskov division had died, the rest of the Russian army would have been able to block Lviv at least
          1. ATF
            ATF 12 September 2014 22: 19
            0
            Well, thanks, well, pleased !!!
            He laughed heartily! What a wonderful play on words (and not just words, and not just a game ...)!
        2. nomad
          nomad 12 September 2014 12: 50
          +5
          I must say thank you to the Chechens. In the first Chechen war, they showed that the army was falling apart, that something had to be done with the army. Fortunately, the generals had enough brains to start raising the army, it seems that not all of them "got sick" there were still real officers.
        3. Igor_kh
          Igor_kh 12 September 2014 13: 17
          -14
          The Pskov is an interesting division. It lit up wherever possible: at the very beginning of the Crimean events (a paratrooper in the form of a berkut soldier, the one who lost his legs recently), at the airport (among the killed in the photo there is a guy, he is at a desk somewhere in the unit) quite recently, on September 5, an ambush on Nazi Battalion "Aydar" (photo with an easily recognizable Nazi flayer, (ex?) soldier of the same Pskov army.).
          1. Fin
            Fin 12 September 2014 13: 41
            +5
            Quote: Igor_kh
            (a paratrooper in the form of a berkut soldier, the one who lost his legs recently), at the airport (among the killed in the photo there is a guy, he is at his desk somewhere in the unit) quite recently, on September 5, an ambush on the Aydar Nazi Battalion (photo with an easily recognizable flayer- Nazi, (ex?) A soldier of the same Pskov.).

            I also have a photo from the school at my desk and in the field with a gun, and now what? I was fired a few years ago. But do you think the Nazi created this club in the army and tortures animals there in his spare time from service? Do you think that there are no accidents?
            Recently, one journalist ukrogebbelsTV made a film about how he was with the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the boiler, where the proof was a helmet fitted with a "figure" and a broken tank, which was shown from the stern. And where are the "owners" of the tank and helmets, should they be corpses? And Natu !!! But for the Maydauns it will do. Therefore, Igor better think first!
            1. Igor_kh
              Igor_kh 12 September 2014 15: 13
              -8
              I think three coincidences are not an accident. Photos of all three are almost indistinguishable by age. The flayer posted manic and Nazi photos BEFORE serving in the army.
        4. Kindof
          Kindof 12 September 2014 16: 49
          0
          Nothing, they will soon see ... and not on TV, but out the window - the surrounding reality
      4. SHILO
        SHILO 12 September 2014 12: 25
        +2
        Quote: Giant thought
        By lies, Ukrainian leaders want to cover up their inability to normally lead the country and the incompetent ATO command.


        Yes, it’s more prosaic laughing Osho makes a long tongue fellow
      5. Duke
        Duke 12 September 2014 13: 08
        +2
        Late in the evening of September 11, before midnight, a man (1969 born) was accidentally wounded in a shooting zone during a tactical combat training exercises at the Lithuanian Gaižiūnai training ground, REGNUM was informed today, September 12, by the Ministry of Defense of Lithuania. The wounded was taken to the Jonava hospital, he underwent surgery. Now, according to doctors, the man’s condition is stable, there is no threat to his life.
        The incident occurred when small arms and light machine guns were fired by military from the 173 company of the US Airborne Landing Brigade in Europe, stationed in the mechanized infantry battalion of the Grand Duke of Lithuania Vaidotas. After the wounded cried out, the fire was stopped. The US military provided first aid to the wounded, and Jonava doctors were called.
        During the shooting, the dangerous territory at the shooting range was marked with special warning signs, information about the shooting was reported on special stands that are located on all roads leading to the shooting range.
        The incident is being investigated by the military police of the Lithuanian Army and the main police commissariat of the Kaunas District.
        Combat shooting exercises took place at the Gaijunai training ground from 20 in the evening.
        According to the rules, persons are allowed to stay at military training grounds and hazardous areas only at a time when combat training exercises are not being conducted. Persons planning to visit dangerous areas are required to familiarize themselves with the information stands that are installed on all roads leading to the landfill. If they hear the sound of fire, they must immediately leave the danger area safely. It is also forbidden to move on if entry to the hazardous area is closed.

        http://www.regnum.ru/news/accidents/1846700.html#ixzz3D5gI6ITr
        1. Dimych
          Dimych 12 September 2014 13: 26
          0
          oh how! It turns out that Gaijunai is still acting. I thought it was torn apart, like all Soviet legacy. In training, he served there at 85.
    2. Sid.74
      Sid.74 12 September 2014 12: 25
      +28
      Today in this "carousel" is missing only the last element.

      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 12 September 2014 12: 43
        +7
        Well, they made fun ... laughing laughing good
      2. nomad
        nomad 12 September 2014 12: 55
        +3
        Oh well, it's a duck. If he fell and broke, then UkroSMI would have shouted that the Russian army had come - they had beaten the border guard along the road, broke his leg, threw him into the ditch. laughing
    3. TECHNOLOGY
      TECHNOLOGY 12 September 2014 14: 22
      0
      Dill is packed not frail ........
  2. portoc65
    portoc65 12 September 2014 12: 12
    +6
    This nonsense is quite seriously believed ... it’s impossible to communicate with dill .. they demand that we withdraw our troops. What needs to be done so that all these human rights defenders financed by the West shut up some time .. all these committees of soldier’s mothers ... Makarevich ... got it already
    1. Matrosov
      Matrosov 12 September 2014 12: 17
      +3
      Well, if they ask so, we will do so. Rephrase the classic)
      "To display something, you must first enter something"))
      Only then, let him not complain that when we introduce them, he will become a bobo.
    2. podpolkovnik
      podpolkovnik 12 September 2014 14: 44
      +11
      Quote: portoc65
      This nonsense is quite seriously believed ... it’s impossible to communicate with dill .. they demand that we withdraw our troops. What needs to be done so that all these human rights defenders financed by the West shut up some time .. all these committees of soldier’s mothers ... Makarevich ... got it already
  3. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 12 September 2014 12: 13
    +10
    Ukrainians smacked nonsense, and nonsense squealed pleasantly ..
  4. Stiletto
    Stiletto 12 September 2014 12: 14
    +4
    Somehow, the huntyaks need to justify their failures ... So they "smash" more and more airborne divisions from Russia in the "Censor".
  5. bmv04636
    bmv04636 12 September 2014 12: 14
    +11
    76 The Pskov Airborne Division has already been buried, and it celebrated its anniversary
  6. Berrick
    Berrick 12 September 2014 12: 18
    +3
    "referring to the words of the representative of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, Colonel Andrey Lysenko."
    And he read it on the most honest in the world "censor.net".
  7. Mercenary
    Mercenary 12 September 2014 12: 19
    0
    People! who knows what happened to the 6 paratroopers handering around Ukraine? Because of such morons, they should listen to all this nonsense.
  8. Neighbor
    Neighbor 12 September 2014 12: 19
    +4
    To withdraw the army, you must first enter it there ...
    1. nomad
      nomad 12 September 2014 12: 59
      +1
      I agree, but it takes longer to withdraw. Output is always more difficult. Well, there are "presents" different from hospitable owners have to be carried or rolled out. laughing
  9. Federal
    Federal 12 September 2014 12: 20
    0
    If only Babs in the village were asked for the latest news, when they click on the seeds in the heap, they surely have more information than some colonel.
  10. Loner_53
    Loner_53 12 September 2014 12: 24
    +1
    I wonder why so Lysenko flatters wassat
  11. kot28.ru
    kot28.ru 12 September 2014 12: 24
    +8
    Judging by how much dill "destroyed" the Russian military, OUR ARMY NUMBER IS LARGER THAN IN PRC laughing ! Well, they have SPECIAL grass there, from Chernobyl, so they are rushing "to the pale" RUSSIANS GO !!! fellow My opinion is that the existence of a junta in Kueva is a clear sign of the absence of the Russian army on the "nezalezhnaya good "!
    1. Old Cynic
      Old Cynic 12 September 2014 12: 30
      +1
      Exactly. From the "Stalker", they probably materialized the nonsense that the brothers Worms grew on their plot ...
      For there is no other explanation.
      1. A.Thschukin
        A.Thschukin 12 September 2014 12: 44
        0
        You read fiction too much. There is no nonsense, but banal greed and a desire to bend.
        1. Old Cynic
          Old Cynic 15 September 2014 21: 00
          0
          I didn’t poke you, chumoroch!
  12. argon
    argon 12 September 2014 12: 29
    +1
    The other day I talked with a former classmate from Lviv. He himself is local, after serving there he returned. How does their propaganda work! We are Russian bastards, Putin is to blame for everything, and we have so much land, now we have also taken away the Crimea, and the Donbass is in doubt. He is afraid that soon his son may be taken to the war, and he himself is sitting on alert.
    1. nomad
      nomad 12 September 2014 13: 03
      +1
      Tell your classmate that if they come with a summons, let them send along with the summons. Everything that they have on Ukre shines for it - a fine.
      1. Starmos
        Starmos 12 September 2014 13: 11
        +2
        Duc, ho.hol for a penny chokes ...
        1. navara399
          navara399 12 September 2014 13: 36
          +1
          Here, that would not pay a fine and go to war. A crest is not a nation - it is a disease!
  13. sever.56
    sever.56 12 September 2014 12: 31
    +6
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/216/ancs943.jpg
  14. Mishanya 84
    Mishanya 84 12 September 2014 12: 41
    +1
    Morons are the national treasure of Ukraine !!!
  15. Veteran of the Red Army
    Veteran of the Red Army 12 September 2014 12: 44
    +4
    According to the agency, similar statements were made on September 3 by a certain “human rights activist” Elena Vasilyeva.


    - Nemtsov - performance on the transfer at Schuster;
    - human rights activist Vasilyeva in the press;
    and dozens of similar "patriots" of Russia with slander and lies.

    Question to the government: "When will the libel law go into effect?"
  16. Dbnfkmtdbx
    Dbnfkmtdbx 12 September 2014 12: 46
    0
    WELL BL COMPAX IN UKRAINE TAKE OUT THE WORDS NO WELL THERE THEY THEES SO AND BETTER STEEL BEYOND UNDERSTANDING SSSSUKI
  17. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 12 September 2014 12: 52
    +1
    Have everyone been killed? And then who are you fighting against? And who signed the truce with? Where is the victory parade in Sevastopol? Waited for already.
  18. Starmos
    Starmos 12 September 2014 13: 06
    +1
    So Geleta has already "defeated" Russia in a "hybrid war" lol... These "thousands of killed Russian soldiers" Lysenko saw on it wassat ... "Winners" are bad ...
  19. Karabas
    Karabas 12 September 2014 13: 40
    +1
    Guys, will someone tell me where the "operational intelligence of Ukraine" is located, and indeed intelligence in general? My opinion is in the area of ​​the fifth point, or am I wrong? I am an illiterate peasant, but it turns out there are still unique people in our village, instead of "according to operational intelligence data", we read, "according to operational intelligence data." Apparently in the same way the ATO plan was written, judging by the latest actions of the Ukrainian Army. Urgently, they should be seconded to Mr. Zadorny, for training in the correct preparation of documents.
  20. pahom54
    pahom54 12 September 2014 13: 54
    +1
    ... "A certain" human rights activist "Elena Vasilyeva made similar statements on September 3" ...

    It would seem that a person who bears the name "human rights activist" must be impeccably clean in the moral sense of the word, incorruptible and respected ...
    This is how it was possible to distort this concept to such an extent that the word "human rights activist" began to cause, at least in me, some kind of annoyance (to put it mildly).
    No matter how you remember all the scandals unleashed by these "human rights defenders", so all are empty, stupid, worthless ...
    The concept of "ecologist" has also been perverted ... It seems that these people must fight for the purity of the nature of Mother Earth, but also, as you look at, all the loud scandals unleashed by these "ecologists" have either a political or a commercial-bought background (more precisely, all together) ...
    A fool blurted out that thousands of Russian servicemen had died in Novorossia - and probably didn’t even think that the media would catch up ...
    It's time for the so-called "human rights defenders" and journalists to answer for their words. I do not call for the persecution of dissidents, but simply call for responsibility: there are no facts - blowing up a soap bubble - stirring up society - answer in full (or a huge, overwhelming fine, or at least half a year in an uncomfortable room let him sit. When several people are like this force to give a "response" - I think the situation should change for the better ...
    PS After all, with such provocative statements they make the parents of those conscripts who are now serving worry about the fate of their sons day and night. Thus, dissatisfaction with the President and the Government is being whipped up, thereby preparing a reserve for the 5th column ...
  21. provincial
    provincial 12 September 2014 14: 13
    +1
    Another nonsense. It is not clear why all the time we make excuses.
    1. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 12 September 2014 14: 24
      -1
      Quote: provincial
      It is not clear why we make excuses all the time.
      - silent means consent! hi
  22. TECHNOLOGY
    TECHNOLOGY 12 September 2014 14: 17
    +1
    "Lysenko flogged nonsense. Nonsense resisted and squealed ..."
    1. Neighbor
      Neighbor 12 September 2014 19: 56
      0
      No, not like that "Nonsense whipped Lysenko ..."
  23. special
    special 12 September 2014 15: 27
    0
    Quote: enot73
    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
    The fact that the allegedly Pskov assault division of the Russian Airborne Forces was destroyed by the forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is already a joke.
    In the reality ,
    even if even a fifth of the Pskov division had died, the rest of the Russian army would have been able to block Lviv at least

    Such a geographical point as Lviv would no longer exist ... Together with its contents ...
  24. pinecone
    pinecone 12 September 2014 15: 40
    +1
    For the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation there is no need to refute ukrobredni. You should not stoop to the level of prostitutional Kiev idiots.
  25. gunter_laux
    gunter_laux 12 September 2014 16: 52
    0
    Quote: Dimych
    Gaijunai is still acting


    Well, Dimych, they didn’t cut it, but reinforced it many times. I am from Kaunas.