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Mystery of the Ukrainians

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Mystery of the Ukrainians


Not about everyone ... but about the absolute majority.

Today I read another set of Ukrainian revelations and understood something about this people. They do not want to live well and peacefully. Or rather, not so. Everyone wants to live well - this is normal, but this is not the most important goal of Ukrainians.

For decades, they have been led by another star, a dream, a goal of their entire life and the basis of the existence of this people. What they live for, what they absorb with their mother's milk, what is formed in their minds back in the nursery, and in kindergarten is already consolidated into a stable foundation of the Ukrainian mentality, to which the whole national idea of ​​Ukraine is tuned in already at school.

Ukrainians dream that Russians (Muscovites, Katsap, Colorado, quilted jackets) live WORSE than Ukrainians. To make it WORSE in Russia than in Ukraine. Exactly so, and not otherwise. The emphasis is on "WORSE". This is not about making it better for them, but about making it worse for the Russians. When a person wants to improve his situation and raise the standard of living, he works on it and achieves (or does not achieve) the goal set for himself. Ukrainians, however, are not going to work to improve their situation - all forces are rushing to worsen the situation of their neighbor.

For example, sanctions against Russia. Don't you think this is funny история with Ukrainian sanctions? But they do not think, they took it with great joy news that they have created, albeit a small, but a problem for Russia. They are genuinely perplexed, not understanding what exactly people are trying to find out from them when they ask a simple question: "Why are you destroying your industry?" And two huge enterprises are on the verge of liquidation. One went to a three-day work in one shift, and the second part of the people were sent on unpaid leave. And this is all legal.

Quote: The Verkhovna Rada's bill “On Amendments to the Law of Ukraine“ On the State Budget of Ukraine for 2014 ”(No. 4308a) gives employers and managers the right to send them on unpaid leave without prior warning and without the consent of employees, or establish part-time work. In this case, the enterprise or institution can itself determine the period for which employees can be left without maintenance. All restrictions provided by the legislation of Ukraine and collective agreements have been removed.

The Ukrainians were sincerely glad that Russia had problems, albeit small, albeit easily solvable, albeit temporary. The most important thing, and this became a reason for national pride, was voiced by all Ukrainian TV channels, and the people applauded - Ukraine created this problem for Russia! ITSELF! People who lost their earnings during this difficult time for the country were branded as traitors, titushki and agents of the Russian special services. Not everyone, of course, but only those who openly declared that the sanctions were stupid and that no one but Ukraine itself would be harmed by them.

But the most interesting thing followed immediately after these events. Do you know WHO is to blame for unemployment, social problems and a decline in living standards, even in those regions where there is no war? That's right - RUSSIA !!! Not Kiev, not the politicians elected by these Ukrainians who imposed deadly sanctions for Ukraine, not the Ukrainians themselves, enthusiastically calling for the destruction of the production of anything for Russia, namely Russia. So suddenly.

Truly a strange people. And then there is their informational "war," meaning what they consider to be a war. The people have been drugged to such an extent that they even believe in pink elephants on the territory of Zaporozhye. Every Ukrainian knows for sure that his country is at war with Russia, which treacherously attacked the Square at a difficult moment. And yet all the problems in their country happened solely thanks to Russia !!!

The fact that Russia was the only country on our continent that did not take part in the Maidan circus was completely erased from their minds. Russia in 2004 was very badly burned, trying to get into the Maidan showdown. This time, no one in Moscow even thought to take part in the battle of idiots on the main square of the neighboring state. Russia did not sponsor any of the parties, it did not have favorites, it did not stake on any politicians. But all of Europe, as well as the United States and Canada, visited Kiev and urged not to stop, but to continue to destroy their country. After all, it is so entertaining that it brought even Greece out of the crisis. But Russia is to blame. What is it? But "do not care and vaasche" ... Do not ask, otherwise you are a titushka !!! And these are adults.

By the way, the Ukrainians themselves stated that Russia did not take part in the Maidan events. Russia was accused of "interfering in the internal affairs of their country" only because Russia refused to demand the resignation of President Yanukovych and called for a peaceful settlement of the conflict in the country. After all, all of Europe supported the rally and the revolution, but Russia did not - this, in their opinion, is bad. Yanukovych lasted so long solely because Russia helped not to bring the neighboring country to chaos: the loan was huge in December, and a discount on gas of another $ 100, and orders for Ukraine to guarantee the viability of the economy in the neighboring state. But the Ukrainians chose to refuse Russian orders, unemployment, the collapse of the economy and the national currency, and the collapse of the country. And all because Europe has promised ephemeral benefits in the form of an "association", forgetting to explain that this is not accession to the EU, not loans and not a visa-free regime. As a result, Ukrainians have no money, and Russia is to blame. We cannot understand why Russia, which gave money, is bad, and Europe, which gave only promises, is good. Anyway.

By the way, Donbass had no intention of separating anywhere from the very beginning. And why? The people simply did not want to be a wordless slave. But they were refused. Moreover, even their candidate was publicly beaten on the air, expelled and promised to kill.

Now they have Russia to blame for the war. Those. in Kiev they burned people alive (then they repeated "encore" in Odessa), destroyed the city in which the marauders raged, seized buildings, and this is normal. Whole police stations were seized somewhere and taken away weapon... In the west of the country, even a military unit was taken, armed to the teeth. Everyone was waving the flags of the EU, USA, Canada and Poland. The people even managed to repeat the fascist antics in the form of chaining a person and pouring water over him (in winter!), After which they also threatened to kill their family. Ukraine applauded! But as soon as in the east of the country someone, without being heard, tried to repeat the Kiev trick with the seizure of the administration (by the way, they did not burn anyone alive or kill anyone), and even raised the Russian flag, everyone immediately forgot the Kiev cries, that only a fascist can use troops against his people and the opinion of the people must be heeded. Troops went to the east. At the beginning of the conflict, many, realizing that there were no invaders, but the people, went over to the side of the people. The idea of ​​the Maidan was still alive - the people have the right to protest. So, instead of hunting rifles and injuries, people had the first real weapons and equipment. Well, then the nightmare has already begun. Punishers shot peaceful and unarmed people simply out of fear. Remember those first videos? So, the Ukrainians no longer remember them, and if you show it to them, they will accuse them of being an opponent in a quilted jacket and aunt, and indeed an agent of the Kremlin. It would be funny if there were no victims ...

Over time, the militia was overgrown with weapons and equipment, because the Armed Forces of Ukraine generously supplied the militia with everything they had themselves. Victories followed victories, but not for the Ukrainians. The scorched earth tactics of the Armed Forces of Ukraine only contributed to an increase in the army of militias and alienated more and more people. Kiev was ashamed to admit to the people that, according to Ukrainian tradition, the entire army had long been sold and destroyed. And this means only one thing: you need to somehow explain the situation to the Ukrainians, but in such a way that they take the side of Kiev. And the way out was found - Russia is to blame for everything! No, well, what?

And the Ukrainian propaganda machine has turned the flywheel of nonsense and lies. At first, the people believed, but over time they also wanted proof. Well, at least some. Well, tiny ones though. And Kiev gave proof !!!

In Germany, we have never confirmed that Russia brought in troops, shelled the territory of Ukraine from its side, or supplied the militia with weapons. But there was news of this. What did they look like? That's how:

According to the NSDC of Ukraine (Rada, Yatsenyuk, Avakov, Poroshenko - when else), from the Russian Federation artillery was fired at "such and such" brigade of the Ukrainian army. At the moment, a check is underway.

With reference to such an article, all Ukrainian media immediately wrote:

Germany confirmed the shelling of our troops from Russia. Hooray. Europe is with us. We will bring Russia to its knees. We are supported by the entire European Union!

After a while, information is submitted in Germany:

OSCE observers denied the statement of the Ukrainian side about the shelling from the Russian side.

This, of course, is no longer translated into MOV and is not told in Ukraine. And so everywhere and in everything. An outright lie, which Ukrainians believe in with pleasure. But this lie has now gotten to Europe. Just from the latter: Poroshenko said that he had agreed with Putin on a truce. This was replicated in all the news, joyfully rubbing their hands, that now Russia was caught. Indeed, with such tight monitoring, intelligence, observers, and so on, there was not a single proof of Russia's participation in the conflict. And here, on a silver platter, Putin's personal admission is that he is a party to the conflict, since he concludes a truce. The coolest news agencies shouted about it. And then Putin - bang, and said that he had not negotiated any truce with anyone at all, and he could not - he was not a participant in this booth. The whole herd rushed to Poroshenko with questions, and he, shuffling his toes, mumbled that, they say, well, yes, they did not agree, but I wanted to, well, honestly !!! And then the sewer burst) Since then, Poroshenko is just a clown. The largest radio stations and TV channels mock him. They talk frankly about the important - he is a liar or just a fool. Etc.

In short, they sailed. But, again, no one will translate or tell the Ukrainians. For why? They gladly believe that Russia has attacked them. They have safely forgotten the history of the conflict itself, its origins. They really like to believe that Russia is guilty of their problems. It is so pleasant to believe that Russia has attacked, it is thrusting sticks in their wheels and creating problems. They dream that "they", with the help of the USA and Europe, will very soon defeat Russia - and they will panic! Well, just let Europe and America fight with Russia, otherwise they will suddenly be killed there. Well, nafig ... Here the United States will "bring Russia to its knees", and then the brave and proud invincible Ukrainians will come to Moscow and with all their might they will defeat these damned Muscovites. And the Muscovites will immediately feel very bad. It is important for Muscovites to feel very bad and hurt. And then they should definitely begin to envy the Ukrainians and ask for forgiveness. And also the katsap must ask, no, humiliatingly, beg to be allowed to Ukraine - to work at a construction site or as a cleaner. And they are like that, shaking off the ashes on the boot of the katsapu and sipping a sip of martini from the glass, they will refuse, laughing in the face! Here.

And Europe must definitely help to quickly restore Ukraine and build factories. And so that a lot of orders and everything is expensive. It is very important. Otherwise, the Muscovites will not be jealous, and this is no good.

This is the whole of Ukraine ... They do not even think about how to restore the country. They only think about how to make things even worse in Russia than they are. And they are offended that they promidanil everything that they had left after the collapse of the USSR, and Russia didn’t. And the most disgusting thing for a true Ukrainian is that Russia is also developing. Therefore, from childhood, parents teach their offspring that there are factories in Ukraine, while in Russia there is only oil and gas - well, but the Russians themselves, without resources, are rogue. Children always trust their parents and do not ask questions: why migrant workers from Ukraine go to construction sites in Russia, while Russians do not go to Ukraine to plow. And if they ask such a question, then everything can be attributed to the laziness and alcoholism of Russians.

It's that simple.

And at the end, perhaps, I will add one of the comments of the Ukrainians, so that it becomes clear that it is not a prosperous Ukraine that is important to them, but a crumbling Russia.

Yes, we will have to learn how to plant explosives in supermarkets, restaurants and cinemas, blow up dams, gas pipelines and oil wells. We will be forced to take the lives of innocent people on the territory of an enemy state. A state that is killing innocent people on our territory, blowing up our supermarkets, restaurants and cinemas, robbing our businesses and homes.

We must be ready for everything: from missile strikes on the "Martians" infested Donbas cities to contamination of Moscow water pipelines with Ebola spores [for example].

Now the respected moral community, as if corroded by archaic Christian dogmas, will surely raise a howl, they say, WE SHOULD NOT BE IMITATED TO RUSSIANS.

Yes, we shouldn't be like the Russians. We must become much, disproportionately worse. More insidious, cynical and inhuman. Otherwise, this ... (materok cut by the censor "VO". - Ed.) We cannot defeat the Horde.


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  1. RESEARCHER
    RESEARCHER 12 September 2014 08: 10
    +108
    100 percent hit in the essence of Ukrainians. The fact that we are the worst, and that no one anywhere loves us, continues to prove to me my classmate on "classmates", who graduated with me from one of the Moscow universities in 1978. He firmly believes in the correctness of the Ukrainian media and annoyed me with links from them. He comes from Lviv, and now lives in Kiev. And once we were friends.
    1. Angro Magno
      Angro Magno 12 September 2014 08: 15
      +46
      The conclusion is absolutely correct. I came to him a long time ago on the basis of a study of the regulars of the Censor. But that was specific knowledge. Now this knowledge has penetrated the masses.
      Previously, they laughed at the Svidomites, now they will despise.
      1. makst83
        makst83 12 September 2014 08: 23
        +21
        The only thing Ukrainians dream of in their fight against yami is to take the place of it themselves, reducing their "blood brothers" to their current level. This is the Ukrainian "European choice". This is the position of Ukrainians in general - to live, receiving everything from everyone for free, or, at worst, by stealing.
        1. bda
          bda 12 September 2014 15: 45
          +24
          In general, shitting Russia has always been, is and will be the main raison d'être of all this Ukrainians, both as an idea and as a pseudo-state entity!
          Without this, no one needs Ukraine.
          So it was twenty-three years ago, when this whole mess was just beginning to take shape.
          And now the national idea "Crap Russia at any cost!" it has simply already been formulated openly, voiced for everyone, and, as a result, has been comprehended and perceived by most of the "Ukrainian nation"!
          No nation can exist without a national idea.
          Ukro-Bandera found their own!
          / Or rather - they were blinded for this idea from some kind of crap, God forgive me /.
          1. kyznets
            kyznets 13 September 2014 01: 47
            +28
            In general, shitting Russia is a national idea also in Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, some former countries of Yugoslavia, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Georgia, Moldova, and in the Western European states themselves - to a greater or lesser extent. This is the banner, the standard of all states striving for the Western European Roman Empire, for their material and spiritual values ​​and their culture. Shit Russia is a pass, a ticket to the west, to Europe, to an alliance with the United States. And for Europe it is a good substitute for Arabs, Turks and other visitors from Asian and African countries. Moreover, Eastern Europeans are ready to forget their culture, faith, independence of the state, EVERYTHING, for the sake of joining the number of Western European peoples. Fair wind for them!
            But for this it is necessary to pay not only for the West, for the entrance, but also for Russia, for the exit, for what has been used for so many tens and hundreds of years as a gift, "as a brother." And to pay not only and not always humanly, financially - but also before God. Pay for the blood of Russians shed for their independence, freedom, FAITH, territory, and sometimes the very existence of these peoples and states. This tailwind will separate the "wheat from the chaff". Someone will stay, someone will return, and someone else will blow away completely - and it's high time!
            1. Erzya
              Erzya 13 September 2014 16: 18
              +8
              It's not an idea - it's just an inferiority complex.
              1. rodevaan
                rodevaan 13 September 2014 17: 18
                0
                Gentlemen - I do not share the opinion of the author. Svidomity is finished - yes, I agree. But most are normal people who just want to live in peace and harmony with us. After all, we are essentially one people, only forcibly divided, where one, smaller separated part was torn away from the common, zombified with Russophobia and set on a larger one.
                Article - put a minus. For inciting ethnic hatred. Can not be so. For example, a normal, adequate person who does not jump like, despises his Kolomoisky and tarut, who wants to live even in an independent, but friendly to Russia Ukraine - will read this article? What will he think? And how will he treat our country after that? There, and so now, the degree of intensity of Russophobia is nowhere worse - here we are heating it up even more with such materials.
                It's my opinion. From reading - rubbish in the shower.
                1. pts-m
                  pts-m 13 September 2014 18: 44
                  +8
                  in our town of Russia, vukry have been living since the days of komunyak, so they talk the same thing that Russia oppresses them, although there are decades. This is a nation of paranoid people who are dissatisfied with everything.
                  1. wandlitz
                    wandlitz 13 September 2014 20: 08
                    +5
                    Dill, not a state, but a bunch of neurasthenics with an inferiority complex.
                    But how strong and developed they were in the USSR.
                2. Suhow
                  Suhow 13 September 2014 20: 43
                  +4
                  I read the article, in general it is interesting, but not everyone wants EVIL TO THE NEIGHBOR, not everyone in Ukraine is as described by the author -> the author -> the author of the article and comments in the article about the terrorist attacks (blowing up dams, etc.) do not think about Honduras alone as about all the inhabitants, and the anti-terror (response) will be worse ... Well, about the participation of the Russian Federation in the atom-it is, but representatives of Ukraine were also present in Chechnya, Georgia, and it is clear in whose ranks these heroes were. Time to throw stones and time to catch them ... And I don’t believe there are no Russian bombers over Kiev, Lvov, Kharkov.
                3. Saturn43
                  Saturn43 14 September 2014 00: 53
                  +3
                  Unfortunately, there are only a few adequate ones, or in any case, VERY few. And diluting mothers' milk with Russophobia has become a state policy. Another 10-20 years and the cancerous tumor of Russophobia will devour Ukrainians to the ground.
                  1. vtnsk
                    vtnsk 15 September 2014 09: 04
                    0
                    They don't have 10-20 years. They would have to survive the winter, and even then it’s hard to believe in that ... smile
                4. Wiktoor
                  Wiktoor 14 September 2014 22: 13
                  0
                  No need to try and do demagoguery.
                  The article is correct, albeit harsh.
                5. Wiktoor
                  Wiktoor 14 September 2014 22: 20
                  +1
                  No need to try and do demagoguery.
                  The article is correct, albeit sharp.
                6. cat
                  cat 14 September 2014 23: 16
                  0
                  Just for information. For the last two weeks I was in the border town of Suja, Kursk region, (10 km from Sumy region), so Ukrainians can freely cross the border, as before, and Russians are simply not allowed to enter Ukraine, I I mean by car. So can you imagine the attitude of the local population towards visiting guests, when this; GUEST; can do whatever he gets into his head and after 30 minutes he will be inaccessible in the literal sense of the word.
                7. pav-pon1972
                  pav-pon1972 15 September 2014 03: 05
                  0
                  I don’t think it’s impudence, but in my opinion, since the end of the 80s (NVOKU from 1989-1993), freedom-loving neighbors almost 100% joined the Ukrainian army, even some of the guys from Russia. And I remember V.Krivonos (from my group) said, we fed you Russia, how are you now without us?

                  Nothing, they carried the 90s and 2000s with the loss of friends and colleagues. Like us? we have changed ....

                  And Ukraine is not ... They are in Prostration ...
                8. miscellanea
                  miscellanea 15 September 2014 07: 56
                  0
                  "... We are essentially one people, only forcibly divided."
                  We have never been one people with the Zapadents! They hated us even in modern times. So, there is no need to generalize. "... And how will he treat our country after that?" Yes, I do not care how they will treat our country, THEY do not normally relate to THEIR COUNTRY.
                  In general, we too often think about who and what will think of us and because of this we often lose in foreign policy.
                  Vaughn "amers" do not care who about them, what they think and twist the whole world as they want!
            2. miscellanea
              miscellanea 15 September 2014 07: 45
              0
              And Bulgaria, why did you include it in this list?
          2. CALL.
            CALL. 14 September 2014 17: 26
            +4
            Quote: bda
            Today I read another set of Ukrainian revelations and understood something about this people.

            The fact that there are problems with mobilization in the country is no secret to anyone. The majors will pay off, the poor are hiding in the corners. For example, a friend of mine told me how military commissars came to a village in the Dnipropetrovsk region with subpoenas. Mothers hid their sons in basements, and the rest of the youth, barely seeing the troublemakers, rushed off on their bicycles to the nearest forest. Right in front of the military!
            At the same time, the authorities are already thinking about the fourth wave of mobilization. The difficulty of the moment lies in the fact that ordinary working people lack patriotism, they have a low fighting spirit, a tendency to desertion and defeatist moods. How to recruit the army in such conditions?
            Panove, you are not looking there! After all, there are people in the country who are really ready to give their lives for their Motherland. I will give a small instruction for ministers Geletey and Avakov. First you need to make a round-up in the stands of football ultras. For example, Dynamo Kiev is supported by over 5 thousand young and physically developed racial warriors. Why not surround the podium at the height of the match, where they are all tightly localized? And to do it as soon as the popular chant "to her knives!" Will sound. Are you chanting? That means they must confirm the words with deeds. Exactly the same mobilization raids should be carried out in the sectors of "Karpaty", "Dnepr", "Metallist", "Kryvbas", "Chornomorets", because the nationalist views of their ultras have long been known. What are the clubs of megalopolises! Almost every team from the Premier League to the second league has its own gangs of far-right fans who, in an absolutely incomprehensible way, mow away from the army. Based on the results of the raids, it is guaranteed to get at least 20 thousand soldiers for the army. Moreover, they all went through a harsh selection of near-football with furious post-match fights, so they should prove themselves well in hand-to-hand combat with the enemy.
            Then it is worth making a raid on the party organizations of the VO "Svoboda". As the Ukrainian Wikipedia tells us, the party has 15 thousand members, so it could make an invaluable contribution to the ranks of the Armed Forces. In fairness, it should be noted that some of the party members are already fighting in the ATO zone, but most of the party members have not yet been mobilized. http://anna-news.info/node/21743
            1. rodevaan
              rodevaan 14 September 2014 18: 53
              +1
              - There is a nuance - if you surround this crowd of thugs, then they can rush to the warrior. Do the warriors need it? It is much easier and safer to catch village boys from forests and vegetable gardens ...
            2. fiodor
              fiodor 14 September 2014 23: 52
              +1
              Great, you came up with +, but yes, it's problematically small, for these purposes it is necessary for the people to surround them in a ring, and fights cannot be avoided, "patriots" will drag through the cordon and into hand-to-hand combat smile You can, of course, and a little differently, after a match or at what rally, it does not matter, set up a table (in order to enroll in volunteers) start their favorite chant over the loudspeaker, who does not jump that m.cal, everyone will jump for sure, well, this is so for warming up, then m.lyaku on gilyak, too, everyone will chant grated, and then a chant like: "Whoever does not sign up for the ATO is for Putin and hu.to, he is an accomplice of his mos.kalyaki immediately on gil.yaku !!!" , so I was wondering who jumped and chanted before that they would come up to the table and sign up as volunteers, (in percentage) this will be an indicator of their real patriotism, but in fact, fake laughing half of the country is a lot to shout, but to fight the question is how much to subscribe to "patriotic" slogans?
              1. vitamin ky
                vitamin ky 16 September 2014 12: 02
                +1
                dear-and maybe enough laughs -that's not funny to me and every day everything is not funnier and funnier crying hi
                1. fiodor
                  fiodor 16 September 2014 12: 30
                  +1
                  Sorry, hi I am more at the insanity of those who are in power laugh, and not at those who have everything in order with their heads. It is clear that for ordinary people who are not intoxicated by "patriotism" it is getting harder and harder to live, and alas, they still cannot do anything, maybe when more heads become clearer, then the power can change, although when this will happen then, alas ...
                  1. vitamin ky
                    vitamin ky 16 September 2014 12: 43
                    +1
                    even with the projection of the brains, nothing can be done - only the force method is possible - but this is the last phase - it is still worthwhile to go through consolidation, unification - rigid subordination and other other things - this is impossible without external help - IMHO
                    1. fiodor
                      fiodor 16 September 2014 12: 52
                      +1
                      I agree that the process is long, and even possibly very long and bloody. The main thing is that this external assistance does not turn out to be an American one again.
                      1. vitamin ky
                        vitamin ky 16 September 2014 13: 24
                        +1
                        yes, you can’t say more precisely, but there is always this disgusting "BUT" - the center was not lucky from the very beginning - I look at the help of New Russia and I understand that the center will be devoured one way or another request
            3. Val_y
              Val_y 15 September 2014 02: 28
              0
              And as soon as, if I may say so, "people" boil in new boilers, then the level of Russophobia and Maidanism on the Ruin will begin to fall almost vertically, in fact, everyone screams and jumps, until the words "go to the military registration and enlistment office" one, two ... and the opponent sideways and to the side, like that somehow hi
            4. vtnsk
              vtnsk 15 September 2014 09: 07
              0
              "To fight" and "to shout on the podium" - two big differences, as they say in Odessa ... laughing
        2. miscellanea
          miscellanea 15 September 2014 07: 43
          0
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyB9Q-WvolE
          This video is about how dill is expected in Europe
      2. Tor hummer
        Tor hummer 12 September 2014 08: 42
        +17
        Quote: Angro Magno
        Previously, they laughed at the Svidomites, now they will despise.

        I wouldn't say that. Just before the Svidomites were not the majority, but 20% of the population. The bulk was amorphous and did not adhere to any particular side. At the same time, it was the Svidomites who always set the tone for Ukrainian politics.
        Now the bulk has taken the side of the Svidomites. But it had to happen one way or another. The only question was the timing, but the events of the last few months have greatly accelerated this process.
      3. officer29
        officer29 12 September 2014 09: 16
        +12
        Quote: Angro Magno
        Previously, they laughed at the Svidomites, now they will despise.

        It is a sin to laugh at the poor ... And contempt is too great a feeling (like love) to be dedicated to someone. Let's just treat them with indifference. request
        1. bda
          bda 12 September 2014 15: 57
          +13
          officer29
          It is a sin to laugh at the wretched ...


          In a biblical sense, of course you are right!

          Moreover, in our society, by the forces of the same "liberal mass media", but with our connivance, not a small class of "poor" was created, who hate their own country no less than "svidomites galloping on the square."

          But ... it's one thing when the poor are sitting in straitjackets, but it's another ... when they brandish their weapons in front of our noses: there's no laughing matter here!
          Here it is not necessary to laugh, but to act with any necessary degree of severity.

          "They say that
          should become much, disproportionately worse. More insidious, cynical and inhuman.
          ,
          and we...
          we don't need to be more inhuman -
          we need to be tougher
          we need to be stronger and ...
          more decisively!
          "
      4. neri73-r
        neri73-r 12 September 2014 10: 43
        +21
        There is no need to play a healthy Ukraine like that, as a wealth of yogo susid ...

        - Folk wisdom
        1. Victor Demchenko
          Victor Demchenko 13 September 2014 15: 54
          +3
          Ukrainian prayer:
          God! you promised to give colorado twice as much as me! knock out one of my eyes !!! ... am
    2. BOB044
      BOB044 12 September 2014 08: 29
      +15
      Will begin to freeze this winter. Will start to think. I served urgently with them so, too, we will live without you Muscovites, but no, you will not live, and history proves that there is no and there will not be a state of Ukraine. And there will be cartoons of the state.
      1. namenov
        namenov 13 September 2014 22: 17
        +1
        Yes, they are already a caricature - an embittered, grinning, wretched caricature of the state. The article is remarkable. A bunch of "so to speak" states (former friends) have long been trying to denigrate RUSSIA.
    3. Момент
      Момент 12 September 2014 08: 32
      +6
      - unfortunately, dumbasses from downbass also do not consider power legitimate.
      - and who asked them? Destroy everyone and throw to the ditch on the border with the rashka let them sniff. All the same, they will not allow us to become a great country. And if we want to become the center of the world, then we must get rid of this load.

      Only one thing is not clear at what moment the Ukrainians considered themselves the center of zemli.Glavnoe, if now ukroSMI tell the whole truth, then Maidana3 can not be avoided. Bedtime stories will soon end, the entire limit has been exhausted.
      1. afire
        afire 12 September 2014 08: 35
        +23
        Former head of the DPR militia Igor Strelkov broke the public silence and said that he wants to be useful in Russia and fight the "fifth column", the correspondent of Nakanune.RU reports.

        "The traitors seriously wanted to seize power themselves, to continue the process of cutting the country, for this they need to deprive Putin of broad support, for this it is supposed to drain Novorossia with the responsibility being made to him," he said at the first press conference after returning from Donbass.

        According to him, for this purpose it was necessary to create a bleeding ulcer on the borders of Russia, at the same time, the load will be laid on the Russian Federation first of hundreds of thousands, and then millions of refugees, the burden of sanctions will put pressure.

        "Everything goes to the conclusion of a shameful peace, in order to cause a big wave of indignation throughout Russia - this will be the Moscow Maidan. Novorossia is critically important to disrupt the plans of the" fifth column ", if we lose, we will lose the remnants of the Fatherland," Strelkov said.

        "Russia will either restore its sovereignty in full, or it will be destroyed. I hope that it is in Russia that I can bring the greatest benefit. No matter how critical I am of certain decisions of the president, I support him. It is necessary to remove from the affairs of those" well-wishers "who brought us before the war. We will not allow the country to collapse, as in 1917 - the Russian Empire, in 1991 - the USSR, "the former commander emphasized.

        However, he stated that he did not intend to return to Donetsk.
      2. enot73
        enot73 12 September 2014 08: 41
        +34
        Quote: Moment
        Only one thing is not clear at what moment the Ukrainians considered themselves the center of the earth.
        Have you noticed what will happen if the US takes the dollar? USA - $ = UA. Apparently, this is how modern Ukraine is being formed. fellow
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 12 September 2014 09: 11
          +6
          Quote: enot73
          Have you noticed what will happen if the US takes the dollar?

          But nothing. The United States will not give it. Cookies are pzhalst, well, we can still eat food at the end of the shelf life - anyway, throw it away soon. And the real green dollar - you need to earn it, and not by jumping. And she won't even lend it, because she is not creditworthy.
        2. crambol
          crambol 13 September 2014 13: 50
          +2
          - enot, you are a genius!
      3. Erg
        Erg 12 September 2014 09: 18
        +8
        All their * activities * are based on lies. Note that there are parallels here with the West and the United States. Repeatedly I catch myself thinking ... As if I were in the forest, standing in front of an anthill. And an irresistible desire arises ... The anthill here is a gathering of demons. Now I understand what the expression * rotting west * is. We used to think on this topic that it was in the economy, but not in the brains ...
      4. WKS
        WKS 12 September 2014 09: 29
        +7
        Quote: Moment
        Only one thing is not clear at what moment the Ukrainians considered themselves the center of the earth.

        During the Soviet era, during the reign of Khrushchev, and then Brezhnev. Ukrainian regional and district committees of the CPSU introduced this idea very actively. And one more that Ukraine feeds and supports the entire union.
      5. mihasik
        mihasik 12 September 2014 10: 23
        +6
        Quote: Moment
        One thing is not clear at what moment the Ukrainians considered themselves the center of the earth.

        When they learned that they were geographically located near the center of Europe!
        And since the center of Europe, then they should live better than anyone else in Europe! And most importantly: everything around MUST and OBLIGED!!! Dill because they are the center of Europe.
        And if the United States also got into buns, then in general everyone in the world MUST, even the United States, and therefore they are the CENTER OF THE WORLD!

        Maniacs rest and nervously smoke on the sidelines ....)
        1. miscellanea
          miscellanea 15 September 2014 08: 08
          0
          LOGICS! This is a great thing! Although it is very far from empirical reality.
      6. Wheel
        Wheel 12 September 2014 23: 46
        +3
        Quote: Moment
        One thing is not clear at what moment the Ukrainians considered themselves the center of the earth.

        Contagion after being dug up Black Ukropskoe sea. laughing
      7. miscellanea
        miscellanea 15 September 2014 08: 04
        0
        "... at what point did the Ukrainians consider themselves the center." Well, depending on what is considered a "center", for example a hole in the butt, is also the center of the body.
    4. UFO
      UFO 12 September 2014 08: 40
      +19
      "What we have, we do not store; when we lose, we cry." To recover from the ukrop consciousness, they need to fall deeply, which they are doing now (Maybe a little mind will go through a crack in the head. (Sakhi.KIPLING))
      Only when you find yourself in a deep housing estate, having lost the level of well-being, industry, independence, etc. Freezing in winter, an understanding of true values ​​will come. Just NO more charity! am
      If they don’t understand, they’ll go there. yes
      1. Constanta
        Constanta 12 September 2014 11: 18
        +5
        To be cured, you need to have GREAT desire and patience. We do not observe it anywhere else.
      2. Shaitan_by
        Shaitan_by 12 September 2014 14: 21
        +13
        Here I have a terrible thought that they will not understand and will not see. They will suffer and curse.

        There are people to whom if you lend, but they cannot return, they begin to scold you, curse, etc. And at the same time, those who promise to lend them (but have not yet lent for some reason) are ready to clean their boots.
        Here Europe and the United States have cut it through and only promise. and they will continue to promise, but they will not give anything.
        1. optimist # 1
          optimist # 1 14 September 2014 19: 03
          +4
          promise promise promise
      3. Naum
        Naum 12 September 2014 14: 23
        +8
        Quote: UFO
        NO more charity!

        That is unlikely. They will again tighten the nudga about "brothers in trouble" and will start pumping Russian capital into Ukrlandia, drive cheap gas, provide benefits and buy all their junk at a high price. And they will hiss angrily and strive to bite the giving hand. Everything repeats itself, there is nothing new in this best of worlds.
        I don’t understand one thing: how did normal people get such a G in 23 years? ..
        1. vtnsk
          vtnsk 15 September 2014 09: 21
          +1
          It all started much earlier there (around 1918, if you do not go deeper into earlier periods of history), and there (in Ukraine) there have never been "normal people", since only those Russians can be considered "normal" decisions of the rulers of the USSR was "presented" to Ukraine along with the lands on which they lived (Donbass, Crimea, etc.). And only Galicia will come off as "Ukraine" without these "gifts", and even then in a greatly reduced form due to claims to its territory from Poland and Hungary.
      4. Erzya
        Erzya 13 September 2014 17: 05
        +9
        Something like that .
        1. Naum
          Naum 15 September 2014 21: 38
          0
          Thank you, he burst out laughing!))) "Ostrich" is still the same! He himself is glad to be "scared" - bigger and deeper. And the elephant is indignant only for show. He is very pleased with ethno business! "Ezcho, Parashka! Ancient uk * ry - ezchoooooo! .."
    5. Krasnoarmeec
      Krasnoarmeec 12 September 2014 08: 48
      +31
      Anecdote to the topic
      1. Krasnoarmeec
        Krasnoarmeec 12 September 2014 08: 49
        +42
        And also their essence
        1. gramatey
          gramatey 12 September 2014 13: 53
          +3
          Ksati, a stupid inscription on a citizen's T-shirt. Pride (by nationality too) is a grave sin. And for the One to Whom this appeal is addressed, as you know, there is neither a Hellene nor a Jew.
        2. bda
          bda 12 September 2014 16: 01
          +20
          Krasnoarmeec

          And also their essence


          DEKY TOBY GOD,
          SCHO CHEI CHMIR IS NOT MOCKAL!
        3. IAlex
          IAlex 15 September 2014 00: 05
          +1
          I and many other Mosk-Ali are just glad that God himself decided to save Mosk-kalei from such squalor ...
      2. Naum
        Naum 15 September 2014 21: 46
        0
        "And then kick the spatas from nei. - Tse e our nezalezhnist! We'll keep striking the rank all the time. But don't skache - that mos * kal! Gop-gop-gop." Lord, when will this fierce madhouse end ?! Poor, maddened Outskirts ...
    6. neri73-r
      neri73-r 12 September 2014 10: 40
      +11
      By zabodun, you are smart! hi
    7. Constanta
      Constanta 12 September 2014 11: 09
      +5
      The article is absolutely accurate, and I agree with you.
      I can't say for sure, but according to a colleague at work in Ukraine (Lvov) even in Soviet (early 80s) times, even the school uniform of Russian-speaking and Ukrainian schools (or classes?) Was different. Mb, not in all areas, I don’t know.
      It turns out that already in those days, a rift was accumulating ...
      1. Naum
        Naum 15 September 2014 21: 54
        0
        The rift deepened. Not even a rift, but an abyss. Galicia was torn away from the Russian World 700 years ago. Over the centuries, her consciousness and mentality have been reformatted by all and sundry - Poles and Swabians, Magyars and Romanesti. With the adoption of Uniatism (the rejection of Orthodoxy in favor of the papacy), everything only worsened. The point of no return has been passed. These are no longer Russians, they are mankurt, vicious and ruthless, like all traitors. Their lot is to be slaves to Western masters. Do not hinder them in this. Let them enjoy the egg sniffing. Prince Daniel Galitsky is tired of turning over in the grave ...
    8. Larusik
      Larusik 13 September 2014 20: 52
      +1
      so remove it from "friends". you can't prove anything to zombie dill!
    9. Dmitry Toderes
      Dmitry Toderes 13 September 2014 23: 52
      +2
      Quote: RESEARCHER
      100 percent hit in the essence of Ukrainians. The fact that we are the worst, and that no one anywhere loves us, continues to prove to me my classmate on "classmates", who graduated with me from one of the Moscow universities in 1978. He firmly believes in the correctness of the Ukrainian media and annoyed me with links from them. He comes from Lviv, and now lives in Kiev. And once we were friends.


      And you write to him - get out of the Russian social networks "Odnoklassniki" and "VKontakte". laughing
    10. papik09
      papik09 15 September 2014 07: 48
      0
      Quote: RESEARCHER
      100 percent hit in the essence of Ukrainians.

      Everything is correct. For such ... 3,14 zdyukov (sorry, but I can't find a softer word) only when the neighbor's house is on fire, and IT pulls his hands on his hips and "pulls his lips", so that everyone would see that full of joy pants from that the neighbor has grief.
    11. vtnsk
      vtnsk 15 September 2014 08: 58
      0
      "Live and sing! There is no need to rush,
      Nature’s complex mechanism,
      Any evil with its own poison
      It poisons the body "(C) ... smile
  2. Denis
    Denis 12 September 2014 08: 11
    +88
    Like that..
    1. WKS
      WKS 12 September 2014 08: 36
      +18
      Quote: Denis
      An outright lie, which Ukrainians believe in with pleasure.

      Below, as an example of such fantastic plans, I cite a quote from one forum dated 07.03.14/XNUMX/XNUMX. On the eve of the Crimean events.
      Below is a quote:
      “Even the most naive and stupid people no longer trust the Russian media and politicians. The lies of Puten and the media are so obvious that there is no reason to hope for“ convincing ”. There are other scenarios, for example: the General Assembly excludes Russia from the UN as an aggressor (this has already happened in 1939) and declares an embargo.Russia suffers colossal losses, a collapse of the ruble and the stock market, economic paralysis and an explosion of inflation.Ukraine closes land and air borders with Russia, which is real (Ukraine's military capabilities are not inferior to the local capabilities of Russia), drowns in the fairway Sevastopol Bay a couple of container ships.Then, completely cut off Russian troops in Crimea, this is only 16 thousand, moreover, now scattered all over the peninsula, are smeared into jelly in 3-4 days by strikes from 3 sides and from the air (250 combat helicopters and hundreds of SU-25s, which the Ukrainian army has, are quite enough, as well as hundreds of tanks out of the 1700 available). a problem from a military point of view. It is unlikely that Russia will start a big war along land borders "at a swoop" - in a war with conventional weapons, Ukraine will definitely be able to fight back - the crest is no worse than me firing a Kalashnikov, drives a tank and armored personnel carrier, flies on MiG-29 and SU-27, fires volleys from "Tornado", not to mention the RGD and so on. The same Soviet school, the same weapons and equipment, which are in abundance! So in order to take revenge for the defeat in Crimea, Russia will have to prepare for a big war for a long time. Meanwhile, Ukraine will have time to urgently join NATO and the topic will be closed. A new topic will trample: the revolution in Russia ... There will be something to discuss. "End quote.
      It turns out that the war in Donbass is the development of these fantasies. But since reality does not correspond to the Ukrop scheme, its complete failure is a natural result. But the beaten is itching to concentrate the troops around Donbass again. And again there will be beats. The paranoia is massive.
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      2. PPL
        PPL 12 September 2014 08: 57
        +7
        Meanwhile, Ukraine will have time to urgently join NATO and the topic will be closed. A new topic will trample: the revolution in Russia ... There will be something to discuss

        Well, what to talk about is not tossing bags, everyone knows. This is the whole essence of the majority of the Ukrainian population. From here all the troubles ... fool
      3. WKS
        WKS 12 September 2014 09: 05
        +8
        The behavior of the Kiev regime reminded me of an episode from my childhood. On my way from school, I am 13 years old, towards a group of small fry led by my peer. The peer climbed up. I beat him slightly in front of his silently contemplating "vigilantes". I think - everything, the job is done, I go on. It turns out not, he is catching up again. Again I beat him, this time I broke his nose. I think - that's it, I move on. No, again, already standing, smearing bloody snot on his cheeks, shouts out threats. A pitiful sight, I turned and walked away.
      4. efimich41
        efimich41 13 September 2014 12: 21
        0
        I wonder who is the author of this quote and in what madhouse does he live?
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    4. RUSOIVAN
      RUSOIVAN 12 September 2014 09: 31
      +4
      no: he would have been a crest, he would have stuck in your shoes!
    5. CONTROL
      CONTROL 12 September 2014 09: 44
      0
      ... and will start to shit in the corners? ... like h.otam (or ko.trash?) and as usual ... sho then?
    6. Constanta
      Constanta 12 September 2014 11: 25
      +15
      And our cat is a patriot!

  3. belovur
    belovur 12 September 2014 08: 12
    +16
    All the same, it is not necessary to speak for the entire Ukrainian people! As elsewhere, people are ruled! Remember our 90s? I believe that sooner or later everything will work out.
    1. Bassoon
      Bassoon 12 September 2014 08: 25
      +12
      All 23 years, dill has been hammered into hatred for everything Russian. And only in Crimea and Sevastopol it did not work.
    2. PPL
      PPL 12 September 2014 08: 26
      +15
      Quote: belovur
      All the same, it is not necessary to speak for the entire Ukrainian people! As elsewhere, people are ruled! Remember our 90s? I believe that sooner or later everything will work out.

      For faith in the best to you + from me.
      But nothing is formed by itself. As the saying goes: water does not flow under a lying stone ... stop
      Remembering the 90s, I swear to myself for laziness and connivance with the liberals, I thought - they croak into the mud, but no. It is a pity that only the smart learn from other people's mistakes ... request
    3. Tor hummer
      Tor hummer 12 September 2014 08: 33
      +23
      Quote: belovur
      All the same, it is not necessary to speak for the entire Ukrainian people! As elsewhere, people are ruled! Remember our 90s? I believe that sooner or later everything will work out.

      It is by such statements that we have come to what we now have.
      Several years ago I said that everything would be very, very bad with the Ukrainians and that the Ukrainians are complete Russophobes and Nazis, but no one believed me and even accused me of trying to play off "fraternal peoples".
      Things need to be called by their proper names, there is no need to try to "blabber" the problem with sweet mantras, about the fact that "not all of them are like that." - Indeed, not all, but only 50-60%. By the way, in Nazi Germany, not all were Nazis either, but about 20-30% of the population. Well, draw your own conclusions.
      1. Bassoon
        Bassoon 12 September 2014 09: 29
        +6
        The very case when an aggressive minority holds the majority in fear.
        1. yur58
          yur58 12 September 2014 09: 45
          +4
          For this "minority" they rode on the Maidan, danced, and then killed. They made the murdered martyrs, heroes.
        2. Tor hummer
          Tor hummer 12 September 2014 10: 36
          +4
          Quote: Fagot
          The very case when an aggressive minority holds the majority in fear.

          Not in fear. Most are almost always passive and follow the stronger and more active part of society. But this does not come from a feeling of fear.
          In the case of Ukrainians, the situation is generally different - among the Ukrainians, it is the majority who are aggressive and Russophobic.
          1. Anper
            Anper 12 September 2014 11: 31
            +11
            Quote: Tor Hummer
            In the case of Ukrainians, the situation is generally different - among the Ukrainians, it is the majority who are aggressive and Russophobic.

            From Ukraine. For 23 years, all centers of nervous irritation, pain points, reflexes for all age groups and social strata were studied. Numerous Maidans were worked out in the field. An experiment on brain stimulation, like with rats. We found a pleasure center in the brain (called in Ukraine "national identity"), and without any implantation of electrodes achieved that people "press the lever that closes the current", producing numerous self-irritations. Rats ignored food for pleasure. water, danger, a female, they were not interested in anything in the world, except for the stimulant lever. With people, it is more expensive to feed and support themselves, so the everyday side of their life is not touched. And the social life of Ukrainians now completely depends on brain stimulation, which creates an illusory world, devoid of common sense. Painted with hatred - after all, hatred is easy to teach, hatred is always active, and therefore attractive. Experimenters can use "electrodes" to turn this hatred anywhere - today against Russia and Putin personally, tomorrow - against the Martians, the day after tomorrow - against cats (or dogs, or chickens). A brilliant experiment is to raise a people who are suicidal, take away hope in the form of children from their sane part and set them on these sane living zombies.
            Unfortunately, history proves that this can only be healed with weapons, through blood and physical suffering.
    4. andrereu74
      andrereu74 12 September 2014 08: 45
      +4
      you're right, time will tell and put everything and everyone in their place.
    5. yur58
      yur58 12 September 2014 09: 42
      +5
      The classic phrase: every nation is worthy of its government.
    6. vtnsk
      vtnsk 15 September 2014 09: 29
      0
      Of course - it will be formed! Nature abhors a vacuum. But only then there will no longer be any state called "Ukraine". And what will remain of him there - "we will see" (C) ... laughing
  4. parusnik
    parusnik 12 September 2014 08: 12
    +10
    Lancelot. There is little work to be done. Worse than embroidery. In each of them you will have to kill a dragon.
    Boy. Will it hurt us?
    Lancelot. You don't.
    1nd city dweller. And us?
    Lancelot. You have to tinker with.
  5. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 12 September 2014 08: 18
    +31
    Plus, plus, plus and plus again !!!!
    We have told you that somewhere they accepted a family of refugees (only refugees from the other side of Ukraine, not from Donetsk), gave them housing and started looking for work, so three days later these animals started a song that Lukashenka x ... th and further like that ... Immediately they kicked out to her ... th mother and told not to appear again!
    1. Bassoon
      Bassoon 12 September 2014 08: 33
      +1
      And these "refugees" by chance will not be from Western dill?
    2. vassa
      vassa 12 September 2014 08: 52
      +2
      Sluts: They'll also give you shit in your soup.
  6. Veteran of the Red Army
    Veteran of the Red Army 12 September 2014 08: 21
    +12
    Ukrainians, however, are not going to work to improve their situation - all forces are rushing to worsen the situation of their neighbor.


    For the past 23 years, Russia has greatly helped idleness with all sorts of concessions and preferences.

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/096/cypl903.jpg
  7. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 12 September 2014 08: 24
    +8
    Quote: belovur
    I believe that sooner or later everything will work out.


    Blessed are those who believe, I'm not sure what will happen as before, this disease is like a plague, requires complete destruction and can only be cured by amputation of the head.
  8. Eragon
    Eragon 12 September 2014 08: 27
    -19
    Minus. The author of the Ukrainophobe, is no different from the Kiev propagandists, only in the other direction. "There are no bad peoples, there are incompetent politicians" - it was said long ago, but the author, apparently, has never heard of this. In one fell swoop he denied part of the RUSSIAN people the right to be full-fledged people, i.e. actually ranked them as "subhuman". The fact that Ukrainians are brainwashed is their misfortune, not their fault.
    1. ALABAY45
      ALABAY45 12 September 2014 08: 58
      +2
      Well, whose, in this situation, whose GUILTY is understandable! But in trouble, who should help ?! The same, whose fault is this ?!
      1. Eragon
        Eragon 12 September 2014 10: 55
        -7
        Quote: ALABAY45
        Well, whose, in this situation, whose GUILTY is understandable! But in trouble, who should help ?! The same, whose fault is this ?!

        For 23 years, the West has been carrying out ideological work. Russia had no time for Ukraine, they themselves were on the verge of liquidation and could not influence in any way. Time to rectify the situation. So, whatever one may say, half of the GUILT is on Russia, and helping in the TROUBLE is entirely her + counteraction to the active intervention of the West.
        1. Shaitan_by
          Shaitan_by 12 September 2014 14: 35
          +3
          Quote: Eragon
          For 23 years, the West has been carrying out ideological work.

          This work was carried out much earlier. I even remember anecdotes from my childhood (seventies, Carpathians) about how the police arrived in the village and the locals tell them:
          - Have arrived Yours on Our motorcycle.

          Let me remind you that the coloring of the police equipment was yellow-blue.

          And in the cemeteries, none of the monuments had stars. Even the buried soldiers had crosses, as they were very afraid.
        2. efimich41
          efimich41 13 September 2014 12: 51
          +3
          Only the enemy of Russia can blame Russia for other people's troubles. Russia itself was in a difficult situation, but no one helped her, but they tried to ditch and continue to do so. Currently, Russia is helping the Ukrainians, but not the Nazis and Bandera. And when peace comes to Ukraine depends only on them.
        3. Victor Demchenko
          Victor Demchenko 13 September 2014 16: 14
          +1
          how much can you help? and so for 23 years they helped, for 15 years they sold gas at a price lower than the cost price lower than in Russia. sad
        4. Tatyanych
          Tatyanych 13 September 2014 18: 58
          0
          I always remember the proverb: Bitch doesn’t want, the dog doesn’t jump
    2. explorer
      explorer 12 September 2014 09: 16
      +3
      That is, they are kind of innocent. At all. But the supply of weapons and equipment will be adjusted and there will be no problems at all.
      And so they have no thoughts, except for one - Enemies around. and even there is no doubt about it.
      1. Eragon
        Eragon 12 September 2014 11: 24
        +7
        Scientists conducted an experiment. A healthy, sane person was shown a white object, but all the extras claimed that it was black. After a while, when showing him other white items, he replied that they were black. That's it. Brainwashing exists and the fault is that someone was not brainwashed by this "someone", but by those who washed and those who did not interfere with the washing.
    3. yur58
      yur58 12 September 2014 09: 56
      +8
      In this way, one can also justify the actions of the Germans on the territory of the USSR and other occupied countries. Like: the people are not to blame. And who served in the army of many millions, who burned villages along with the inhabitants, who guarded concentration camps, etc. For example: if I am not a murderer by nature, not a thief, then whoever would tell me: kill and rob, I will not do this. If a neighbor tells you that your mother (wife, father) is a murderer, then you will immediately believe? Or will you think about it?
      1. dmb
        dmb 12 September 2014 11: 46
        +1
        Do you know the exact definition of a people? The same Germans had Hitler and Thälmann, and the Americans had Mackin and Mark Twain. Poles Piłsudski and Rokossovski are clearly antagonists. The Ukrainians have Mazepa, Shukhevych and Potemkin with Malinovsky. Dmitry also says that it is impossible to pour crap on all the people. Those involved in this are absolutely no different from the same Svidomites.
      2. Eragon
        Eragon 12 September 2014 11: 50
        +4
        Quote: yur58
        And who served in the army of many millions, who burned villages along with the inhabitants, who guarded concentration camps, etc.

        But those same Germans with brainwashed propaganda. And now Ukrainians are doing the same. But I repeat - there are no bad nations, because we treat the Germans well now, and they are the children and grandchildren of those very "who served in the army of many millions, who burned villages together with the inhabitants, who guarded concentration camps." There are bad rulers. And the West.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 12 September 2014 16: 16
          +8
          Quote: Eragon
          because we treat the Germans well now

          There is no need for delusions, the Germans (like other Europeans) have not changed a bit. And people and cities in Ukraine are being burned not by Russian Ukrainians, but by European Ukrainians.
          Quote: Eragon
          There are bad rulers. And the West.

          This is from the same opera like "I was ordered not to blame", for the execution of criminal orders are responsible for both the one who ordered and the one who executed. There are bad peoples, criminal peoples, the brightest example is the Anglo-Saxons.
    4. Who
      Who 12 September 2014 11: 08
      +5
      Svidomo Ukrainians killed the "Russian" in themselves, and Svidomism cannot be cured
      1. Eragon
        Eragon 12 September 2014 11: 52
        +3
        Quote: vem
        Svidomo Ukrainians killed the "Russian" in themselves, and Svidomism cannot be cured

        Svidomism is a kind of Nazism. And Nazism, as history has shown, is curable. It hurts, but it's curable.
      2. Val_y
        Val_y 15 September 2014 02: 38
        0
        I have already said above, we can heal, with a summons to the military registration and enlistment office
    5. Horn
      Horn 12 September 2014 12: 20
      +9
      It is not politicians who are jumping around the squares. It is not politicians who send SMS messages so that the sons of some Ukrainians can kill the sons and daughters of other Ukrainians. These are not politicians sitting at the controls of planes, levers of tanks. It is not politicians who shoot at civilians from cannon and rocket artillery.
      To sober up the "brainwashed" it is usually enough that the template does not coincide with reality. It doesn't help Ukram. They are just DIFFERENT. Like Jews. Not better or worse, just different. Mutants.
    6. imugn
      imugn 12 September 2014 14: 53
      -1
      you have not read the whole article
    7. Setrac
      Setrac 12 September 2014 16: 11
      +4
      Quote: Eragon
      "There are no bad people, there are incompetent politicians"

      Yeah - "I'm innocent, he came himself"

      In view of the fact that Russia's guilt in the downed Boeing has not been proven, there are no guilty ones.
    8. efimich41
      efimich41 13 September 2014 12: 39
      0
      And how do you think it is possible to restore the brainwashed Ukrainians?
      1. Gemini
        Gemini 14 September 2014 23: 34
        +1
        only like drug addicts-substitution of one addiction drugoy.Osnovnaya part of the Svidomo rushing to the monitor after "opening their eyes" will how fiercely defend us. Only a trigger in the form of adversity and hardship coupled with a demonstration of facts is needed. I told my relatives that In five years it will be a shame to look into our eyes for this "circus". True, at that time it was a circus, and now it is already a tragedy with farce.
    9. rasputin17
      rasputin17 13 September 2014 12: 59
      +1
      Quote: Eragon
      The fact that Ukrainians are brainwashed is their misfortune, not their fault.


      And to turn on the brains so that they would not be washed with different der.mom they did not try? Then why do they need them at all? request
      1. Eragon
        Eragon 13 September 2014 17: 09
        +1
        Quote: rasputin17
        And to turn on the brains so that they would not be washed with different der.mom they did not try? Then why do they need them at all? request

        I will answer with my previous comment
        Quote: Eragon
        Scientists conducted an experiment. A healthy, sane person was shown a white object, but all the extras claimed that it was black. After a while, when showing him other white items, he replied that they were black. That's it. Brainwashing exists and the fault is that someone was not brainwashed by this "someone", but by those who washed and those who did not interfere with the washing.

        Maybe they tried. But they were convinced that white is black.
  9. Buran
    Buran 12 September 2014 08: 28
    +2
    Yes, we will have to learn how to plant explosives in supermarkets, restaurants and cinemas, blow up dams, gas pipelines and oil wells. We will be forced to take the lives of innocent people on the territory of an enemy state. A state that is killing innocent people on our territory, blowing up our supermarkets, restaurants and cinemas, robbing our businesses and homes.


    Well, this "enemy state" will have a free hand. The destruction of any maydaun around the world will become a fashionable trend for the special services of the "enemy state". These are not Ukrainians, they are "eessstttoooonnnntststsyy". When they understand there, the slightest terrorist attack on the territory of Russia, and the entire current political elite will go two meters underground.
  10. SHOKER
    SHOKER 12 September 2014 08: 28
    +2
    And why is it really bad to put a spoke in the wheels of the fascist authorities? laughing
  11. rf xnumx
    rf xnumx 12 September 2014 08: 29
    +12
    At first, the people believed, but over time they also wanted proof. Well, at least some. Well, tiny ones though. And Kiev gave proof !!!
    1. Igor F.
      Igor F. 14 September 2014 15: 51
      0
      Well, the film, in this case the program for creating effects, will endure everything .. And I, sinner, at first thought that these were frames from a fantastic action movie!
  12. MIV999
    MIV999 12 September 2014 08: 29
    +12
    Good article! ... Especially for understanding the Ukrainian mentality as the main driving force for the collapse and destruction of Ukraine ...
    I understand that in spite of his Russian grandmother, the average crest, Mykola, froze his ears back in February on Maylane ... belay
    Now he is diligently freezing one more organ that he did not need during his life - the brain!
    fellow
    1. Constanta
      Constanta 12 September 2014 11: 54
      +5
      About the Ukrainian mentality, most likely everything is so ...
      10 years ago. Kharkiv, a small queue at the cashier ... A kind of "garna maiden" (well, really, a beauty) reprimands her companion for the whole store, what a "horny" he is, she can't make money, and she didn't work for a minute ... is not going to work, etc., etc. The lad, right, in the prime of his life, quietly replied with something in an exculpatory tone.
      I was terribly surprised that those around me did not even look back, as if such a picture was in the order of things.
  13. driver
    driver 12 September 2014 08: 33
    +2
    I agree one hundred percent. For 23 years the people have been so brainwashed that Goebbels is spinning in hell with envy.
    1. officer29
      officer29 12 September 2014 10: 05
      +36
      Quote: chauffeur
      For 23 years the people have been so brainwashed that Goebbels is spinning in hell with envy.

      23 years say ... Well, well! Born and raised in a small mining town in the Donbass. My native language is Russian, but I can speak fluently in Ukrainian as well. In Soviet times, Donbass was a prosperous region, a wonderful climate, fertile land, supply in the first category (at the level of Moscow!). Normal roads, housing construction went on at a fast pace, within 3-5 years the family received an apartment, young professionals within a year! PARADISE !, and nothing more. Trips to relatives in the RSFSR were oppressive - off-road, empty store shelves, in SelPO, sometimes, except for bread, canned food and vodka, there is nothing from manufactured goods - blue satin pants up to the knees! We all thought that this well-being in Donbass (Ukraine) was due to our hard work and efforts! But no one thought about the fact that everything that we have from ourselves was taken from others! We went on vacation to the Krasnodar Territory, Apsheronsk on the water, brought with them food (butter, dry sausage and other "nishtyaks"). We were surprised! How is this so ?, in such a region and such a situation with food. They attributed it to the fact that the Ukrainians, who had been resettled to the Kuban by Catherine, had become completely Russified and lazy, and WE are still WOW !!! And no one thought that we came to the Kuban with their butter and their sausage. At home, conducting kitchen conversations, we glorified ourselves, but we feed Russia! Yes, Russia lives only at our expense! Without thinking at all that our well-being was on the money of a Russian peasant! Ordinary "everyday nationalism"! It is on such fertile soil that the seeds of "independence" and terry nationalism have fallen! The 90s put everything in its place, it became clear who was feeding whom all these years! Residents of "Nezalezhnaya" were drawn to work in Russia. And here it is not without sin! - Russians are lazy, stupid, untalented. At construction sites in Moscow - the overwhelming number of workers from Ukraine, pop and pop music - from the same place! Wo !, what WE are! And here is the result: reveling in its "grandeur", Ukraine slipped where it slipped ... And you are 23 years old ... request
      1. Zverboy
        Zverboy 12 September 2014 14: 02
        +9
        Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye! All the adults said so and about the continuous drunkenness of the Russians in the villages, everyone thought that well-being in Ukraine, as a matter of course, and washed all the sausages and foodstuffs.
        So it turns out that what was previously not appreciated, but right now they firmly believe in abroad will help us.
      2. Sour
        Sour 13 September 2014 20: 00
        0
        For a long time and categorically I affirm two things:
        1) Ukrainian nationalism has roots not only in Galicia, as some claim.
        2) Ukrainian nationalism appeared not 23 years ago, but much earlier.
        Quote: officer29
        yes we feed Russia !, yes Russia lives at our expense only

        I heard this a thousand times during my military service, and at the institute, and then, when I became an officer. I have not met Ukrainians from a different point of view. They were all different, but in this they were united.
    2. Igor F.
      Igor F. 14 September 2014 15: 58
      +1
      What the hell is envy! Here, one should not envy, but quietly prepare for the fact that whole hordes of Ukrainians will move to Russia .. But not as aggressors, but as applicants for jobs that Russians do not really go to .. That is, the average citizen of the Square will agree for any job, just not to die of hunger! In Europe, such "candidates" for jobs are not really needed .. There are enough of their own unemployed!
  14. andj61
    andj61 12 September 2014 08: 33
    +7
    Typical psychology of a rural envious person: it's not that bad that the cow itself is dead, it's bad that the neighbor's is healthy! This is how they come with envy of Russia in Velikoukri. At the same time, all of us are considered zombified by the Russian media!
  15. bubla5
    bubla5 12 September 2014 08: 38
    0
    The Verkhovna Rada's bill “On Amendments to the Law of Ukraine“ On the State Budget of Ukraine for 2014 ”(No. 4308a) gives employers and managers the right to send them on unpaid leave without prior warning and without the consent of employees, or establish part-time work. In this case, the enterprise or institution can itself determine the period for which employees can be left without maintenance. All restrictions provided by the legislation of Ukraine and collective agreements have been removed.
    We have adopted it under Yeltsin.
    1. PPL
      PPL 12 September 2014 08: 58
      +3
      Quote: bubla5
      We have adopted it under Yeltsin.

      So the teachers are still the same ...
    2. Old shoe
      Old shoe 12 September 2014 09: 52
      +9
      Yes not true. Read the law. In Russia, the employer MUST warn of any changes in working conditions in 2 months. Under Yeltsin, they simply didn’t give a damn about the law, and it was impossible to find a council on anyone.
      1. Victor Demchenko
        Victor Demchenko 13 September 2014 16: 26
        0
        not better now !!! face the truth, in order to prove your innocence you have to sue your employer for a long and tedious time, and eventually quit your job of your own free will! No.
        1. Vladimir73
          Vladimir73 14 September 2014 09: 56
          +1
          Quote: Viktor Demchenko
          not better now !!! face the truth, in order to prove your innocence you have to sue your employer for a long and tedious time, and eventually quit your job of your own free will!


          You are not right. The court takes the side of the employee if he was fired illegally. An enterprise will not be able to simply throw a person out of work if the employee is drawn up in accordance with the Labor Code.
          1. Igor F.
            Igor F. 14 September 2014 16: 28
            0
            In principle, you are right .. BUT .. The employer will put pressure on the employee who was left by the court decision (he will find fault with it, reduce the amount of the bonus, load it additionally, but the salary will be the same) that the employee will not stand it and will leave on his own. It was!
            1. Vladimir73
              Vladimir73 14 September 2014 16: 45
              0
              Quote: Igor F.
              BUT .. The employer will put pressure on the employee left by the court decision (he will find fault with him, reduce the amount of the bonus, load it additionally, but the salary will be the same) that the employee will not stand it and will leave on his own .. It happened with me!


              Depends on a person. request The difficulty of the question rests on the contract with the employer and the lawyer. Sometimes it is very difficult and for a long time to get rid of an employee if he does not want and the lawyer is not competent enough, therefore they try to convince them to leave of their own accord.
              And about a larger amount of work and minor quibbles - there is a job description and if you act in accordance with it, you can create a lot of headaches for the bosses who are trying to "eat" you. If the premium is cut, then it can be done either through the trade union or (again) through the court. Tyagomotin, of course, for a long time ...
      2. Erzya
        Erzya 13 September 2014 16: 41
        +1
        For example, the prosecutor's office disqualified the director for 2 years for delaying his salary for half a month (it was a couple of months). The poor fellow came to work in the morning to carry out a planning meeting - and here on you, he is no one and the owner of the new boss represents. Although the delays were most likely not his fault, but simply the owner of the holding chemistry something.
        1. ordinary
          ordinary 14 September 2014 14: 01
          +2
          damn .... only 4 people work for me except me .... yes, I myself will be left without money, than I will not give people a salary !! I am ashamed !!!! request
    3. zeleznijdorojnik
      zeleznijdorojnik 12 September 2014 12: 10
      +1
      Quote: bubla5
      The Verkhovna Rada's bill “On Amendments to the Law of Ukraine“ On the State Budget of Ukraine for 2014 ”(No. 4308a) gives employers and managers the right to send them on unpaid leave without prior warning and without the consent of employees, or establish part-time work. In this case, the enterprise or institution can itself determine the period for which employees can be left without maintenance. All restrictions provided by the legislation of Ukraine and collective agreements have been removed.
      We have adopted it under Yeltsin.

      Not true! As a current personnel officer, I responsibly declare this to you !!!!
    4. IIIIvanov
      IIIIvanov 12 September 2014 19: 44
      +4
      You are not right. There is no such law. The employer is obliged to notify the employee in writing about the change in the work schedule two months in advance. Otherwise, the employee goes to court and the court cancels everything.
      Sincerely.
  16. lord
    lord 12 September 2014 08: 44
    +4
    The whole world is now a theater of the absurd, but Ukraine is a theater of the absurd in a madhouse! Probably it will be necessary to introduce into the lexicon in addition to the expression "female logic" also "hohlyatsky logic"! That is, a complete lack of logic and common sense. Also, this wall ... As they say, it would be very funny if it were not so sad. After all, whenever someone is sick, it is sad. And when your brothers are in fact sick, and even with their heads, then it's triple sad! There is such an expression: When God wants to punish a person, then he deprives him of his reason, and when he wants to punish the people, he deprives him of the mind of his rulers. Like that ...
    1. kompotnenado
      kompotnenado 12 September 2014 11: 29
      +5
      Damn, but not a madhouse Dill. Madhouse - a violation of higher nervous activity. In dill, higher nervous activity is absent. This is a zoo. With rather aggressive and vicious animals.
  17. EvaFerrari
    EvaFerrari 12 September 2014 08: 47
    +7
    All this reminds of such an old furry anecdote, when God told a Jew, they say, ask me what you want, but know, I will give your neighbor twice as much. As a result, the Jew asked to gouge out one of his eyes. It is not for nothing that my grandfather, having Ukrainian roots, most of all did not trust the Ukrainians.
  18. MaxSanbl4
    MaxSanbl4 12 September 2014 08: 48
    0
    Articles with similar content in the network, a wagon and a small cart, here are also quite a few written in a similar vein, so in general, I think, just once again pouring from empty to empty.
  19. parafoiler
    parafoiler 12 September 2014 08: 49
    +7
    A joke on the topic: a fly is flying, laughing. A mosquito flying past her asks what she is having so much fun with. In response he hears: "They beat the bull on the bridge, and I kicked it once!" ...
  20. Lenar
    Lenar 12 September 2014 08: 50
    +6
    I recently talked with the Ukrainians on the job, and of course it was not without discussion of politics. So one honestly admitted that they need "friendship" with the EU only in order to get a visa-free regime and quickly get out of Ukraine.
    Another demanded that we (quote) "overthrow this **** Putin, because of him all the problems."
    1. Commissar of the NKVD
      Commissar of the NKVD 13 September 2014 16: 52
      +1
      Quote: Lenar
      Another demanded that we (quote) "overthrow this **** Putin, because of him all the problems."

      Demanded that we overthrew Putin, as because of him problems in them? Hmmm, but ... what
  21. Starmos
    Starmos 12 September 2014 08: 50
    +3
    The author is great. Plus I put it. About the same thing, but in different words and forms, I write, and many others ...
  22. Flinky
    Flinky 12 September 2014 08: 53
    +3
    Apparently, you have to compare this garbage to a green lawn.
  23. kind
    kind 12 September 2014 08: 54
    +5
    Ukrainians dream that Russians (,, I am a Nazi muzzle, s, Colorado, quilted jackets) live WORSE than Ukrainians. To make it WORSE in Russia than in Ukraine.

    The happiness of a Ukrainian is not that his own cow has calved, but that his neighbor's cow has died. fool
  24. viktorrymar
    viktorrymar 12 September 2014 08: 58
    +5
    As the author said, it would be funny if there were no victims. And the article is excellent, nevertheless, I hope through pain through blood, but the people of this country will enter the mind, at least on its ruins.
  25. parafoiler
    parafoiler 12 September 2014 09: 00
    +2
    When the Lord decides to take a person's life, he first deprives him of his reason.
  26. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 12 September 2014 09: 00
    +3
    Despite all the efforts of the West, a large fur-bearing animal PISETS is coming to Ukraine, and the foolish people do not want or are no longer able to see it! But to put it bluntly and frankly, they got what they were striving for all these years. Instead of raising their own economy, raising the level of well-being of the people, they gave the country at the mercy of the oligarchs and their fosterlings from the fascist junta! Indeed, if God wants to punish a person, he deprives him of his reason!
  27. s30461
    s30461 12 September 2014 09: 02
    +24
    Unfortunately, it is more infectious than Ebola: last year about 100 people from Ukraine worked for me - Lviv, Nikolaev, Zhytomyr. At first they went with slander at each other, then they fought among themselves, stole tools, went to other construction sites, returned, whined that they paid little in Russia and it would be better if they went to Poland, etc.
    As a result, he drove everyone out, recruited Uzbeks and forgot about the problems of regulating relations between Ukrainians. This year they have been calling without stopping since February: Mikhalych, take us to your place! I set a condition - you come, submit your documents for obtaining Russian citizenship, and take a job. Three young people arrived: apparently the summons came to the army and they decided to run away. Two months of whining, no benefit at the construction site and constant complaints: we earn little, we have 3 rubles each. a month you need. And three meals a day in a good dining room. We will not live in a hostel, give us a separate apartment with a shower. The answer is: guys, you work so that I can see that you are worth it, who does not give? Look at Belarusians and Uzbeks. 50 hours a day, seven days a week, and get 000-12 50 rub. Nah ... we won’t work like that, it’s hard. We want 60 hours a day and 000 days off a week.
    Naturally, they did not submit the documents, and then they started to go to the Maidan, pushing speeches for Bender, soldering other brigades ... In short, he calculated them and sent them home. I will not mess with this rotten seed anymore. It is more dear to yourself to help them survive. Let them go to Poland. There you need to help the local idios. There are apples and rotten potatoes.
    1. Serp
      Serp 13 September 2014 14: 55
      +3
      And I have a lot of such examples, I have the same freak at work, only he is quieter than water below the grass, since one is Urine, but somehow drunkenly let it slip and the whole essence became clear, although to be honest, foulbrood appeared before, just did not pay attention. And when asked what the hell are you doing here in an enemy country, they hang. I cannot imagine that my grandfather, who had gone through 4 years of a terrible war, suddenly decided to go to Germany to earn money. And these ki are nothing like that, okay ... I meet a lot of such reptiles, I have to work at work, sometimes it washes away, call somewhere, so that from the country: "suitcase, station, Urina!" Let these builders, welders, handymen, salesmen, cottage managers go to Geyrop!
      1. Vladimir73
        Vladimir73 14 September 2014 10: 08
        +1
        Quote: Serp
        And I have a lot of such examples, I have the same freak at work.


        I agree, because it is these who go in order to earn (or rather receive) more money and preferably without straining. Working people find work in Ukraine, they are busy, they have a pretty penny not far from home. The exception is those who are in great need chased after a long ruble (hryvnia), but such work sparingly and are looking for any convenient opportunity to earn extra money, do not "pump rights" and do not campaign.
    2. ordinary
      ordinary 14 September 2014 14: 04
      +1
      so our young people are no better ... they have a lot of money at once ... fellow
      1. Vladimir73
        Vladimir73 14 September 2014 16: 50
        0
        Well, if the brains turn on after the first setbacks, then everything becomes fine ... although recently young people (at least they have begun to come across them more often) are thinking more about work experience (without it, they will not take a normal job) and the size of the salary is not so important.
  28. Stanislas
    Stanislas 12 September 2014 09: 03
    -11
    Only people who lack either intelligence or conscience can accuse an entire people who have fallen into the international web of lies, living in a situation of civil war and economic pressure. Put your cons ...
    1. Good cat
      Good cat 12 September 2014 10: 32
      +7
      It is immediately clear that you did not communicate with the people, only theoretical calculations. Such an unfortunate people caught in the web. Everything that s30461 wrote above is the truth, and the officer29 wrote the truth about Soviet times.
      1. Stanislas
        Stanislas 13 September 2014 00: 06
        -1
        Quote: Good cat
        you did not communicate with this people
        Are you the president to communicate with the people? About 50 MPN people got into the western project of Ukraine-Anti-Russia. Most of them are Slavs, many are Russian by blood. They wanted to determine themselves in this life so that it would be better than in the USSR, i.e. with Russia. Does Russia have many grateful neighbors? their fair laws. Somewhere the authorities act in the interests of the people and restore allied ties with Russia, somewhere they sold themselves to the United States and dragged the peoples to NATO. If you use the same technique, talk about other peoples as infected or natural imbeciles, idlers, genetic monsters, etc., then interethnic hatred, fueled from both sides, will only increase.
    2. kompotnenado
      kompotnenado 12 September 2014 11: 32
      +7
      Go to the censor, see if it's people. Or a pack of jackals.
      1. Vladimir73
        Vladimir73 14 September 2014 10: 19
        +1
        Quote: kompotnenado
        Go to the censor, see if it's people. Or a pack of jackals.


        on the censor banyat all disagreements and nationalities do not look. To say that they are all the people of Ukraine is not correct.
    3. Docent1984
      Docent1984 12 September 2014 13: 34
      +8
      Let's do it this way. Russia sample 94 years. How could it be worse somewhere? I think, hardly ... And what - we all sang in chorus "Russia is not dead yet" and yelled that everything was to blame ... well, someone? And the one who really helped at that moment? So the comparison is not in favor of your message. I don't put a minus.
    4. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 12 September 2014 16: 03
      +2
      Quote: Stanislav
      Only people who lack either intelligence or conscience can accuse an entire people who have fallen into the international web of lies, living in a situation of civil war and economic pressure. Put your cons ...
      - please! And to blame the people that they have UNLOOKED TO THINK - RIGHT! Winter will show who "... la-la-la"! laughing
    5. Commissar of the NKVD
      Commissar of the NKVD 13 September 2014 16: 48
      +1
      Does this people have no brains of their own? Why do others think for him? The world is cruel and everyone needs to know that for free no one will do anything to anyone.
      1. Vladimir73
        Vladimir73 14 September 2014 10: 30
        0
        Quote: NKVD Commissioner
        Does this people have no brains of their own? Why do others think for him?


        those who have brains do not speak from the stands (they are not allowed to tell) but simply try to feed their families.
        In the 90s, I did not go to rallies because there was no time for this, they arranged themselves in the midst of the working day. I didn't go to the 00s either, the work took up all my time and energy. I don't go now, tk. went a couple of times but heard nothing but idle talk. hi
  29. Georgy USSR
    Georgy USSR 12 September 2014 09: 03
    +5
    (Russia) Do not do good, you will not get evil (Ukraine)
    1. yur58
      yur58 12 September 2014 10: 06
      +1
      And not only Ukraine. Bulgaria, for example, "helps" with the South Stream. And there are many many others like that.
  30. vass
    vass 12 September 2014 09: 07
    +3
    Probably you shouldn't think so about all ordinary Ukrainians. They have a terrible disease that the Germans survived from the 30s to 45s. Having prokuralesov for more than 20 years, in search of happiness and those guilty of the absence of a blue bird, you will be looking for an enemy. And "smart partners" have always been and are. They "introduced" democracy with a bias of the correctness of living comfortably, under a simple condition: be our colony and you will live comfortably. We will not pretend that we did not fall for this bait at the time. Therefore, now we are feverishly restoring our self-sufficiency. White ribbons have recently fluttered in Moscow and other cities, and many thought that their leaders were worried about the fate of Russia. It will be a great pity that our brothers, Ukrainians, can undergo the same treatment as the Germans. God forbid them to go through the destruction of cities, the death of loved ones and complete dullness after defeat. You don't need a war for that! A couple of years of junta leadership of the country will be enough and there is complete hopelessness of the common people ahead. We probably do not need to be like the propagandists of theirs junta. Let us treat them as temporarily ill with mental illness - with tact and condescension. After all, no one will begin to prove something to a mentally ill person, because it is useless. I read somewhere that before they were treated by wrapping them in a wet sheet and it helped! you need to pour cold water on them more often. At least when drunk it helps many.
  31. Curious
    Curious 12 September 2014 09: 12
    +3
    Huge +. Article to the point and everything is described in detail.
    Ukrainians have long had the meaning of life - "let my only cow die, than the neighbor will have two".
  32. Egoza
    12 September 2014 09: 13
    +7
    I will quote an opinion with which I completely agree.
    "There is no plan as such in principle. There is a" game "In fact, what is happening is the activation of the plan to liquidate the USSR, they simply do not have time to wait until we, who were born in the SSST, will become extinct, as the participants of the Great Patriotic War died out. you can imagine a monument to Bendera, provided ... Well, thirty or forty years ago ... And what would have happened to those who would only give a hint about it.
    So it is with everything else. It is necessary to have another 20 years in reserve for the society of "Western democracy" to settle down .. BUT, the crisis of the system, where can you get to from it. And evolution does not care about the opinions of individuals. Donbass is a bloody manifestation of this process, One of a number, it's just CLOSER than others. And this is another attempt to create a kind of society based on universal principles. And this is really a POPULAR protest. And the ideas there are well, quite "according to Marx", if we discard the rhetoric. Naturally, the oligarchocracies (including the Russian Federation) didn’t drop all this. Hence ... the protocol. This is on the topic of how to make sure that I have everything and I have nothing for it. The trouble is, the west DOES NOT CARE. They have no way out, just this way and nothing else. This is VISIBLE. But ... in this case, we have one difficulty - it is a people's war and it will not end until the people "agree" with some acceptable options for them. "...." To merge or not to merge "is an attempt to build the entire chain of cause-and-effect relationships, if the author had been without "the desire to impose his opinion", albeit involuntary, it would have been cleaner and more accurate.
    In fact, it all began long before the "Yushchenko era" began. Yushchenko is simply the first "injection" to test the "reaction of the body." And when the "immunity" was considered mature enough, the Nazi system was launched, which was most convenient for the formation of an appropriate social environment. Similar to religious fanaticism in the Middle East. "(Skell)
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 12 September 2014 10: 06
      +2
      [quote = Fidget]
      In (s) you can imagine a monument to Bender, provided ... Well, thirty or forty years ago ... And what would become of those who would only give a hint about it.


      In Lviv in 82 - a memorial plaque to Bandera, Shukhevych ..., a memorial plaque to Petliura ... to the heroes who died heroically ... in a heroic way ... for honor (well, for the front, that is ...) and independence ...
      ... Yushchenko, the West, the Maidan ... of course!
      everything started earlier!
  33. mivmim
    mivmim 12 September 2014 09: 15
    +1
    They are not interested in a prosperous Ukraine, but in a crumbling Russia.
    And what is characteristic, so thinks all the people of "Zaletnaya" Ukraine.
  34. Eaglealex
    Eaglealex 12 September 2014 09: 16
    +2
    An Angel appeared to the Ukrainians and said: ask for anything, but the Russian will have twice as much ...
    The crest answered: gouge out my eye!
  35. Zolotse
    Zolotse 12 September 2014 09: 20
    +2
    “The Ukrainians were sincerely happy that Russia had problems - albeit small, albeit easily solvable, albeit temporary. The most important thing, and this became a reason for national pride, all Ukrainian TV channels voiced about it, and the people applauded - Ukraine created this problem for Russia! ! "

    But if the country has no other reasons for national pride ... then this is also a reason.
    But this is temporary, soon Ukrainians will be able to feel a surge of national pride - they will become the first (from the end) in the list of living standards and security among the countries of the world ... in Europe for sure.
  36. delorian
    delorian 12 September 2014 09: 27
    +1
    Ukrainians are so brainwashed that it is really IMPOSSIBLE to call them adequate !!!!!
  37. pahom54
    pahom54 12 September 2014 09: 40
    +2
    Hmm ... To be honest, I have never considered the issue of Ukrainians' "dislike" for pits, its essence and reasons from this point of view ...

    "Ukrainians dream that Russians (, I am a Nazi muzzle, s, Colorado, quilted jackets) live WORSE than Ukrainians."

    Exactly!
    “The Ukrainians were sincerely happy that Russia had problems - albeit small, albeit easily solvable, albeit temporary. The most important thing, and this became a reason for national pride, all Ukrainian TV channels voiced about it, and the people applauded - Ukraine created this problem for Russia! ! "

    By the way, problems with refugees from Ukraine in small towns of Russia are already beginning ... Not everything is so simple ...
    And so, hating Russia, they run to us, and demand the creation of IM conditions, often exceeding the conditions of life of the local, indigenous population ...

    Poor Ukraine! Poor people of her !! What have you become ???
  38. elephantine
    elephantine 12 September 2014 09: 44
    +2
    Quote: Denis
    Like that..

    I must add: tears apart the sofa and shits in slippers ...
  39. oracul
    oracul 12 September 2014 09: 59
    +3
    I agree with the author. In the eighties my wife and I rested near Berdyansk. The neighbor turned out to be a resident of Poltovsk, as he called himself - "wide" crest. They spoke frankly and kindly. Moreover, there were plenty of points of contact - neither he nor we liked much of what was happening then in the USSR. We shared our impressions of the tall fences that surrounded the houses that we saw in the villages of the Chernihiv region when we drove by. And he said that for the behavior of Ukrainians towards a neighbor is based on the principle "Let your cow die!" let it be bad for someone, then I will feel good, even if I really feel bad. And to the question of the obvious zombification of the Maydanutyh and their supporters. They don't even think about the stupidity of the obvious. What an invasion of Russian troops into Ukraine, when ukrovoyaks and border guards run to the "aggressor" to catch their breath from the fighting, and then return home. When trains and planes go every day, for example, to the same Kharkov and Kiev. There are checkpoints at the border. A truly hybrid war is when you are not on friendly terms with your head.
  40. Signature
    Signature 12 September 2014 10: 00
    +4
    That's all right. And even not so much impartial as rightly commented on by the author.
    I will only note: not only the Ukrainian people are capable of behaving wildly and foolishly: any ethnic contingent (from Puerto Rican to the vaunted American) is capable of this, which was clearly demonstrated by the close-knit German nation of the times of Adolf Hitler.
    And after all, all of Europe (with the removal of what is known in its east and some free-thinking "renegades" in the west) applauds the swift Ukrainian "liberation" from the norms of human morality and rationality.
    The near-Russian aspect is also noticeable: is it not the same Europe (which is touched by the Ukrainian madness and flourishing) - the personification of the "values ​​of civilization" for the "advanced" part of Russian society, and isn't the intellectual leaders of the Russian "resistance" selflessly loyal to its political course?
  41. qQQQ
    qQQQ 12 September 2014 10: 02
    +2
    I agree with everything. Recently I asked my parents in Ukraine what they wanted from independence. The literal answer: "We wanted to live better than in Russia." Sometimes I call my friends, all my thoughts are "I will frostbite my ears to spite my mother." Brains were washed in Ukraine for all 23 years, propaganda against Russia went on continuously. I can't even imagine how some people there remained adequate. On all channels, 24 hours a day, they repel attacks, smash columns of equipment, show miracles of heroism and all against Russia. In general, I really saw the "Inhabited Island" of the Strugatskys.
    1. Commissar of the NKVD
      Commissar of the NKVD 13 September 2014 16: 44
      0
      Quote: qqqq
      "We wanted to live better than in Russia"

      And you didn’t ask them: "What have you done in order to live better"?
  42. Dobrov
    Dobrov 12 September 2014 10: 02
    0
    The war is not over, the general battle has not been won, one thing is clear that victory will be for Russia, because we are not the aggressor. We are only returning debts. And Ukrainians, what to do with them? Let's re-educate, probably so ...
  43. tochila
    tochila 12 September 2014 10: 16
    +1
    Yes, the author took away the bread from the satirist Zadornov!
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 12 September 2014 13: 51
      +1
      Quote: tochila
      Yes, the author took away the bread from the satirist Zadornov!

      Ukrainians dream that Russians (moscow, I'm a Nazi muzzle, s, colorado, quilted jackets) live WORSE than the Ukrainians. To make it WORSE in Russia than in Ukraine. Exactly so, and not otherwise. The emphasis is on "WORSE". This is not about making it better for them, but about making it worse for the Russians.

      how was Zadornov ...
      The man caught a goldfish.
      the fish tells him - let go, I will fulfill any desire, but keep in mind the neighbor will get twice as much ...
      man - gouge out my eye ...
  44. nvb
    nvb 12 September 2014 10: 25
    +1
    I don’t know, but maybe I’m not lucky in my life to meet an honest, decent Ukrainian. Yes, and there is a saying - cunning as ho.hol ... Maybe I'm wrong, then I'm sorry.
  45. Coconut Tima
    Coconut Tima 12 September 2014 11: 07
    +7
    "Every Ukrainian knows for sure that his country is at war with Russia, which treacherously attacked the neighboring country at a difficult moment. And all the problems in their country happened solely thanks to Russia !!!"
    1. smolnuy
      smolnuy 13 September 2014 19: 09
      +1
      Yes, they inspired such thoughts to be worse than those of the Baptists, but the main idea of ​​the Americans is to clear more space for NATO
  46. Performance
    Performance 12 September 2014 11: 17
    +2
    I think that it is not necessary to confuse all the peoples living in the territory and the failed nationalist project - the state of Ukraine.

    It's like a barrel of honey and, shit and this shit, now everything has surfaced, no matter how much you count the percentage of "svidomo" 5 or 25%, - the product is hopelessly spoiled, a barrel in the dustbin of history, but before that it is necessary to force-feed the Europeans a lot spoon ...

    The most interesting thing is that the Americans raised all this from the bottom, added to their urine, knowing that in any case they would not have to eat it. A barrel between us and Europe! While the Americans are demanding that we gobble it up, they added their own brand ketchup in the form of sanctions!
  47. bucha12
    bucha12 12 September 2014 12: 09
    +4
    Thank you for the article. I read it with pleasure. Very good and accurate syllable.
    Appear more often but IN!
  48. prostofily
    prostofily 12 September 2014 12: 20
    +1
    In 78, there were two from Rovno in school (how they got into Komsomol type). So they did not hide the Banderlog then, it was funny for us, but once they cleaned it up instinctively (1x1). Where that article was about a siphon in a generation, well, not I can explain the insanity.
  49. ATF
    ATF 12 September 2014 12: 51
    +7
    About 10-12 years ago, while studying in Kiev, in my free time I decided to explore the beauty of the city, make a photo session, etc. I walked into the subway passage and decided to ask the way to one of the attractions from a friendly young couple who were selling something on the collapse. The girl readily began to explain the details of the route, hesitated and turned to her boyfriend, who was sitting next to her, for help. And only after looking in his direction I noticed some unnatural change: the guy darkened, shrank all over like a spring, lowered his head and pretended not to hear. The girl pushed him on the shoulder and asked again. The guy answered her something gloomily, not kindly and in monosyllables, making it clear that he would not help me.
    Earlier, I heard from my friends different stories about the ambiguous attitude of some residents of Ukraine towards us, but I did not try it on myself. Then, in Kiev, the sensations were mixed: this guy does not care what kind of person is in front of him, he is not interested, because the dialect is not the same. But he is no more than 18 years old, he hasn’t seen anything in his life, he hasn’t done anything and hardly deserved it. However, he believes he has the right to demonstrate his attitude. And he received such "education" not only from the media (10 years ago, there was no obvious rabidness).
    Then in my head there was a thought, and what will happen to this guy and his generation next. The answer is clear today.
    Sad.
    1. bda
      bda 12 September 2014 16: 17
      +5
      ATF
      he received such "education" not only from the media (10 years ago, there was no obvious rabidness).

      It was observed, just then it all went "gradually".
      And even earlier it was observed - as many as 20 years ago, being in Ukraine, I went into an ordinary bookstore and read a school history textbook:
      The textbook (on the centerfold) began with a picture of some Polish artist "Moskals are falling apart Kiev!" / "Moskals are destroying Kiev" / (in the XNUMXth century, during the next Russian-Polish war, Russian troops liberated Kiev from the Poles who occupied it - the picture shows the moment of storming the city fortifications by archers - all archers have faces like hereditary maniacs).
      This guy in the underpass, apparently, unlike his girlfriend, just studied well at school and firmly learned that the Russians are the ones who are usually engaged in the destruction of his native Kiev!
      But this textbook was probably written not only by "CIA agents with 30 years of experience", but also by ordinary representatives of the "Soviet intelligentsia", who several years earlier wrote pretentious articles and defended dissertations on something like: "Internationalism is the basis of well-being Soviet country! "," Forever with the Russian people! - the main motto of every Ukrainian! "," Communists of Ukraine are the vanguard in the struggle for the victory of the world proletariat! " etc.
  50. valery-vip1956
    valery-vip1956 12 September 2014 13: 06
    +3
    The worst thing is that people with Russian surnames living in Ukraine have become complete Russophobes, have forgotten about their Russian roots. Since the second grade I have been "grasping the Ukrainian language" and have spoiled my certificate with a triple in Ukrainian. language. Back in the USSR, the Ukrainization of the Russian people living both in Little Russia and in the Crimea was taking place, and with the collapse of the USSR, the Ukrainization accelerated by an order of magnitude. I used to feel sorry for people from Ukraine who have lost their historical roots, at the moment I don't care - everyone chooses their own. The mistake of Russia and the Russian people is that they told us fairy tales about a Ukrainian. brothers, and we believed in these fairy tales. I still do not understand, if we are divided, then why there are no normal borders and visa regime with various "brothers".