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The battalion of Kiev security officials "Cherkasy" refused to advance to Donetsk

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Virtually the entire personnel of the Ukrainian Cherkasy battalion, which is currently under Volnovakha (Donetsk region), refused to carry out the order of the command to advance to the front in the direction of Donetsk, the online newspaper reported NEWS with reference to ITAR-TASS.

The battalion of Kiev security officials "Cherkasy" refused to advance to Donetsk


Failure reports were written by more than 400 fighters. According to the servicemen, they were assigned the task of setting off for a checkpoint near Donetsk “to repel the attacks of enemy artillery and armored vehicles, arming only rifle weapons and providing old buses and trucks. "

"Or set for us the tasks that we can perform with our weapons, or provide us with weapons to perform the tasks that are set for us", - declared the deputy commander of the battalion Vladimir Melnik. He also said that the soldiers do not refuse to serve, they simply demand that they be given appropriate weapons.

The ATO leadership responded quickly and in its usual style. A spokesman for the ATO headquarters, Alexei Dmitrashkovsky, expressing the opinion of the authorities, called the fighters cowards who were frightened by military actions and did not want to continue their service. He is confident that the servicemen were not morally ready for war. For this, he said, he must answer the military commissar, who was engaged in the formation of the battalion. "They violated all the requirements of the statute"- said Dmitrashkovsky.

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  1. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 10 September 2014 19: 21
    +24
    Correctly let's beat parashenko to Kiev
    1. domokl
      domokl 10 September 2014 19: 29
      +71
      Are they going to Kiev? Or I don’t understand something? According to the report, the soldiers agreed to fight in the east, but with heavy equipment and artillery.
      Of course, it would be nice if this battalion went over to the HP side ... Only these are ideological fighters. Just one of those whom we call punitive. So your comment is about nothing ...
      1. Момент
        Момент 10 September 2014 19: 35
        +65
        The battalion of the Kiev security forces "Cherkasy" will not fight with the army of Novorossia. Well, at least so, and not how Semenchenko happened.
        1. sanja.grw
          sanja.grw 10 September 2014 19: 55
          +22
          Yes oligophrenic
          1. jjj
            jjj 10 September 2014 20: 03
            +19
            Yes, and when he escaped from the front, he was wounded in one soft place. Somehow suspiciously in Ukraine, many ideological fighters have a lot to do with this place.
            1. Sergey Vl.
              Sergey Vl. 10 September 2014 21: 46
              +5
              Another Forrest Gump, only dill.
              1. severniy
                severniy 10 September 2014 23: 37
                +5
                yes even the vests took off ssssssssssssssssss ...
              2. Good cat
                Good cat 11 September 2014 15: 06
                +3
                Forest Gump, by design, is a very decent person, and Tom Hanks will be more sympathetic than a ghoul!
            2. Rock2
              Rock2 11 September 2014 11: 23
              +1
              And they were brought up through this place.
            3. Goga101
              Goga101 11 September 2014 20: 47
              +1
              jjj - quote - "in Ukraine, many ideological fighters have a lot to do with this place" - so this is a generic connection, they were born through this place and now they do everything through this place and fight and get "pleasure" wassat
            4. Vlad Peel
              Vlad Peel 12 September 2014 02: 12
              +1
              And they, in the American manner, save the most precious thing - their asses. When I served (1970-1972), we called the most stupid and stupid soldiers "wounded". I think this bright term is applicable to many ukrovoinam. We never smoked on tanks, even during very long marches. And these on the armor and smoke and recover without leaving the car. We called our cars "swallows", looked after them, and there were times when there were "Damansky Islands", there were also constant exercises, marches and cars did not let us down, and these cars are dirty and rusty. And it is not surprising that one militia with a chainsaw took away a tank from the ukrovoi ...
          2. Tron
            Tron 10 September 2014 21: 25
            +5
            Quote: sanja.grw
            Yes oligophrenic

            And how he was injured - in the video
            1. Tourist
              Tourist 13 September 2014 14: 59
              0
              Bistra runs across the field
              Dupit wounded dzhigit
              Far from saving
              The bullet sits deeply. lol
          3. ti_rex76
            ti_rex76 10 September 2014 22: 56
            +3
            More precisely, hydrocephalus.
          4. hooligan
            hooligan 10 September 2014 23: 50
            +4
            rather, he is imbalanced)) often sick in childhood))
          5. GUKTU
            GUKTU 11 September 2014 08: 01
            +1
            They say that the structure of his skull is a sign of hydrocephalus))
          6. Onotollah
            Onotollah 11 September 2014 19: 15
            +1
            Quote: sanja.grw
            oligophrenic

            More like a smurf, he is also in a hat.
        2. max702
          max702 10 September 2014 20: 13
          +32
          Her everything is much more neglected ...
          1. vassa
            vassa 10 September 2014 20: 24
            +7
            Oops .. so he, not she .. or is it?
            1. Stalker
              Stalker 10 September 2014 22: 11
              +83
              Yes oligophrenic
              belay wassat

              I looked dill somewhere in the distance.
              There was a medal on his chest: “For courage”, “For victory”, “For a pleasant conversation”, “For scientific works”, “For the protection of the whole environment”,
              Two medals of the astronaut, Order of the player of Warcraft, Symbol of the surrender of the TRP, "Passage TO",
              Club of pregnant women "Crane", Wardrobe of the recreation center "Gidravlik", "Altavista dot com", "Society of patients with fungus",
              Captain of the game “Zarnitsa”, “Kiev psychiatric hospital”, Snuffbox and flint, Eight beer caps, “Gypsy dance festival” “Crane operator, work in a helmet!”
              “Beware of the bicycle”, “Thirty-eight years of Victory”, Order of the USSR, secret order “Templar”,
              Chewing gum insert “Lelik-Bolik”, “Anonymous Alcoholic”, “Wine connoisseurs club”, Punk symbol from g *** a, SUSE-Linux, “business team”, “Tynda - sister city”
              “The most experienced driver”, “Best boar-producer”, sign “Honorary diver”,
              Sticker "Putinlalala", Oktyabryatsky star, "Heroine mother of labor",
              Blood type and IP
              And the pacific on the chain ... lol laughing
              1. Sandov
                Sandov 10 September 2014 22: 27
                +13
                Quote: Stalker
                I looked dill somewhere in the distance.
                There was a medal on his chest: “For courage”, “For victory”, “For a pleasant conversation”, “For scientific works”, “For the protection of the whole environment”,

                I am in an outburst. wassat
                1. Stalker
                  Stalker 10 September 2014 22: 35
                  +7
                  I'm in the dead

                  I myself wept with laughter when I read for the first time !!!! laughing crying
                  1. DMB-88
                    DMB-88 10 September 2014 22: 42
                    +8
                    Quote: Stalker
                    Chewing gum insert “Lelik-Bolik”, “Anonymous Alcoholic”, “Wine connoisseurs club”, Punk symbol from g *** a, SUSE-Linux, “business team”, “Tynda - sister city”


                    Already the stomach hurts)))) I read it 10 times .., I can’t do it much)))) laughing
                2. Eugene
                  Eugene 10 September 2014 23: 03
                  +7
                  Really weakened !!! We must save! Now .... A thousand pluses !! "Tynda is a twin city" ...
                3. DMB-88
                  DMB-88 10 September 2014 23: 37
                  +30
                  Suddenly slipped ...
                  And medals - on the floor!
                  And now medals are all
                  rolled on the highway.

                  Kids! Uncles, aunts!
                  If you find anywhere:

                  Order of Glory, Order of Peace,
                  a button with the coat of arms of Algeria,
                  bauble, can opener,
                  malachite brooch,
                  Red Cross, Peter's Cross
                  'City of Prague', 'City of Brest',
                  'Regimental Nurse',
                  'Childhood is a wonderful time',
                  'Esperanto', 'CSKA',
                  Forester’s personal number
                  cufflinks to military uniform
                  'Best turner', 'Exhaust OK',
                  'Lose weight in five minutes',
                  Youth club 'Sohnud',
                  'KGB', 'Honorary Donor',
                  'Elena Bonner Private Foundation',
                  'Chechen Fashion Festival',
                  Fidosha node number -

                  even a medal, even a badge
                  share you with kaklom! laughing wassat
                  1. Stalker
                    Stalker 11 September 2014 19: 08
                    +2
                    Respect !!!
              2. Alfer
                Alfer 10 September 2014 23: 51
                +4
                We’re getting lost with the boys, and you’ve aptly noticed. smile
              3. Indie
                Indie 11 September 2014 00: 22
                +6
                Perfectly! And despite the fact that it's sad - it's still funny)
              4. Styx
                Styx 11 September 2014 09: 45
                +1
                laughing laughing laughing (wellparabukavak to climb) no comment
              5. Vlad Peel
                Vlad Peel 12 September 2014 02: 21
                +1
                Impressive poetry!
              6. hly
                hly 12 September 2014 16: 49
                +1
                Well you can’t do that ..... I cry .... crying
              7. Plankton
                Plankton 13 September 2014 12: 33
                +1
                Actually, this rhyme about the mummers of Russian Cossacks.

                http://argumentua.com/reportazh/shel-kazak-kuda-vdal-na-grudi-byla-medal-za-otva

                gu-za-pobedu-za-priyatnuyu-besedu

                And where did dill rattle with a large number of medals and badges? *

                Song of the author: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ1J7Rpz3ck
          2. Akvadra
            Akvadra 12 September 2014 01: 54
            +1
            Quote: max702
            Her everything is much more neglected ...

            Comrades, I'm not afraid of the minuses, it doesn't stick. But this one reminds me very much of the host from "Ural Dumplings". But that clown is kind and this clown is evil. How long will our Homeland be tormented by evil clowns ?! Better let the boys from the "Ural dumplings" laugh at them! ...
          3. Vlad Peel
            Vlad Peel 12 September 2014 02: 27
            +1
            But this claims to be the Minister of Defense! ... but no words, over!
          4. engineer31
            engineer31 13 September 2014 00: 09
            0
            With each such picture, I am more and more convinced that the "holy fool" majority lives in Ukraine ...
        3. sabakina
          sabakina 10 September 2014 20: 22
          +15
          For some reason, I immediately remembered the phrase of the protagonist from the movie "American Battle":
          - And his neck was stiff ...
          1. hooligan
            hooligan 10 September 2014 23: 56
            +1
            removed from the tongue)
        4. Juborg
          Juborg 10 September 2014 20: 43
          +20
          I think the interpretation is wrong, they do not refuse to fight, they refuse to go to death with light weapons, against tanks, artillery and aircraft, probably referring to the Russians. And their fighting spirit is reinforced by the Bandera cry. Do not consider them fluffy, they will give them guns and tanks and go to kill with even more bitterness, for example, their relatives from Bandera. Ukraine went crazy, there all the colors mixed up. All of them are at war with the fascist masses and, as it sounds strange, but it is.
          1. Ghenxnumx
            Ghenxnumx 10 September 2014 22: 34
            +4
            Quote: juborg
            they refuse to go to death with light weapons

            No, they only, as always in their vile manner, show that with light weapons and on buses - only against civilians. they will be given tanks - they will say that against the militias only on the Topol, so that only from afar.
          2. prishelec
            prishelec 11 September 2014 01: 56
            +2
            / YUBORG /

            Unfortunately you are right, they must be crushed to Kiev!
            1. magosvel
              magosvel 12 September 2014 01: 09
              0
              And a little further - to Lviv.
          3. Petrix
            Petrix 11 September 2014 10: 10
            +1
            Quote: juborg
            they do not refuse to fight, they refuse to go to death with light weapons,

            Maybe so, but I think that is not entirely true. Expect them to refuse for political and moral reasons. As well as from mothers who do not advocate ending the war, but for recalling sons from the front. Otherwise, there will be repression as a dissent. You do not forget how fascist ideology sets the order.

            Quote: juborg
            Do not consider them fluffy, they will give them guns and tanks and go to kill with even more bitterness, for example, their relatives from Bandera.

            But this is in vain. Citing people against people is called. Most are not ideological, but neutral, kneeling. As in any state. Such are hardened only after hostilities. When colleagues are killed and injured. There already doesn’t matter who shoots you - a feeling of revenge wakes up.

            Therefore, the main thing is not to get to the front under any pretext. And ideological, but they are fanatics, they are ready to tear the infidels with their bare hands.
          4. Vlad Peel
            Vlad Peel 12 September 2014 02: 34
            +3

            True words!
        5. WKS
          WKS 10 September 2014 22: 02
          0
          The management of anti-terrorist operation reacted quickly and in the usual style.

          This style is decisive and without compromise, but unfounded statements designed for the universal approval of the Internet community. How does the earth carry such idiots?
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        7. Sandov
          Sandov 10 September 2014 22: 24
          0
          Quote: Moment
          The battalion of the Kiev security forces "Cherkasy" will not fight with the army of Novorossia. Well, at least so, and not how Semenchenko happened.

          Obviously mental abnormalities on the face all manifest. Therefore, the creep was encrypted.
        8. prishelec
          prishelec 11 September 2014 01: 49
          0
          /Moment/
          I was shocked when this hero shot the balaclava eh ... what the heck, with a deep sigh, took off the balaclava, removed all the burden from everyone, most importantly from himself laughing
        9. Lionov
          Lionov 11 September 2014 15: 04
          0
          Did you see this? In interested circles, the nickname is Angelok. Here they are Heroes of Nezalezhnoy.
        10. Andchevh
          Andchevh 11 September 2014 17: 16
          +1
          yes this is why he wore a rag on his head, because !!! "great" commander wounded by his own in F ...... poo !!
        11. Evgtan
          Evgtan 13 September 2014 16: 31
          +1
          Winter of the 41st. Severe frost, a hot battle near Moscow. German tankers jump into the snow from a burning tank ...
          And, after lying down a bit, they climb back
      2. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 10 September 2014 19: 38
        +18
        I think, nevertheless, the exchange of prisoners, or simply when the militia of New Russia and Russia let them go massively feeding them after treatment ... it says all the same Well, the dill ass is torn on all fronts ..! True, they still feel on our side! Now comes the most tense moment ... God bless New Russia!
        1. SSR
          SSR 10 September 2014 22: 33
          +4
          Quote: MIKHAN
          I think, nevertheless, the exchange of prisoners, or simply when the militia of New Russia and Russia let them go massively feeding them after treatment ... it says all the same Well, the dill ass is torn on all fronts ..! True, they still feel on our side! Now comes the most tense moment ... God bless New Russia!

          + now even ..... Sorry for the frankness. I have a German wife, she has one feature if she takes a bite at the bit, then all the pi ****, from a series of hedgehogs cried and continued to eat a cactus, imha this is a distinctive feature of nemchura, a nudist Merkel understands that her tryndezh will only get worse, but she has already bit bit. Personally, at such moments I allow myself to break into a "cake" and then joke - he himself is going. And then, the Meerkel bit the bit, it is necessary to arrange a type of repair of the Nordstream in the high season, but in words where is the gas? Answer - so we supply it only it comes out through your ass, collect it.
      3. Alekseev
        Alekseev 10 September 2014 19: 51
        +38
        Quote: domokl
        According to the report, the soldiers agreed to fight in the east, but with heavy equipment and artillery.

        Yes they thought that they will be used as police officers in the occupied territories.
        And their valuable, ideological banderlogs to the forefront! lol
        Well, to say that, they say, we did not agree so shamefully and stupidly. So they require weapons, which they know very well that they will not give. For it simply doesn’t exist anymore, but for the one that needs to be taught for a long time ... Or they will say that they gave us something unfit, etc. etc.
        Who does not want to fight, he is looking for reasons, and who wants, for example, Strelkov and other militias, methods (anti-tank missiles, IS, T-34, SCS, etc.)
        Yes, and what do we want?
        All the last years in Ukraine there has been a howl, they say, someone, mainly the Russian Federation and Putin, personally, in all, in all the advanced, scholastic New Geyrope residents, are such enemies.
        And always someone got in the way!yes
        Here and in the war: helmets are worthless, and zbroi, too, and dumb zbroi, and achviters are not the same, they were abandoned ... poor in the Donetsk steppe!crying
        Hinder ... request Damn it ...
        1. domokl
          domokl 10 September 2014 20: 03
          +6
          Quote: Alekseev
          Yes, they thought they would be used as police officers in the occupied territories.

          This is a funny comment for you))) Smiled ... Only in reality, in my opinion, a little is wrong. Those battalions that suffered the greatest losses are very cleverly formed, most of them are really ideological fighters for the independence and simply called up villagers .... But The smallest part is mercenaries. They are the main striking force. And that is why Kiev requires breaking out of the boilers at any cost ...
          Naturally, the punishers already know this and understand their future fate. I don’t want to die ..
        2. AQUARIUS 65
          AQUARIUS 65 10 September 2014 21: 07
          +2
          Alekseev
          All the last years in Ukraine there has been a howl, they say, someone, mainly the Russian Federation and Putin, personally, in all, in all the advanced, scholastic New Geyrope residents, are such enemies.
          And always someone got in the way!

          Well yes. On this occasion in Russia there is even a proverb: "Eggs interfere with a shitty dancer."
      4. Tron
        Tron 10 September 2014 20: 46
        +4
        Quote: domokl
        soldiers agree to fight in the east, but with heavy equipment and artillery.

        I completely agree with you. Crush these pendregast to the last.
        Our good luck, I bow to their courage.
      5. enot73
        enot73 10 September 2014 22: 24
        +12
        Quote: domokl
        Of course, it would be nice if this battalion went over to the HP side ... Only these are ideological fighters. Just one of those whom we call punitive. So your comment is about nothing ...
        Only these "ideological fighters" are still weak to repulse the enemy's equipment, as the militia does. Apparently the main "idea" is loot
        1. Akvadra
          Akvadra 14 September 2014 22: 07
          0
          Quote: enot73
          Quote: domokl
          Of course, it would be nice if this battalion went over to the HP side ... Only these are ideological fighters. Just one of those whom we call punitive. So your comment is about nothing ...
          Only these "ideological fighters" are still weak to repulse the enemy's equipment, as the militia does. Apparently the main "idea" is loot

          These will war! Come on !
    2. Patriot 1
      Patriot 1 10 September 2014 19: 34
      +2
      Just a task for fighters armed only with small arms
    3. Civil
      Civil 10 September 2014 20: 08
      +8
      Either set us tasks that we can carry out with our weapons, or provide us with weapons to carry out the tasks that are set before us

      That is to kill, they do not mind
      1. Combitor
        Combitor 10 September 2014 22: 41
        +4
        Quote: Civil
        That is to kill, they do not mind

        <the soldiers do not refuse to serve, they just demand to provide them with the appropriate weapons>
        The ukrokaratels agree to kill their compatriots. It's just that their weapons are rather weak. "Grenades of the wrong system."
        The only positive thing is the confusion and vacillation in the pack of the National Guard. They begin to bite themselves and nibble their leaders. But what will happen when they understand each other?
    4. Sergei1982
      Sergei1982 10 September 2014 20: 23
      +15
      The Ukrainian Osa-M air defense system created an emergency during the NATO and Ukraine exercises in the Black Sea, Russian and Ukrainian media reported. A missile launched from the Ukrainian Ternopol anti-submarine ship at a joint NATO exercise fell into the water, emerged and headed toward the ship, but did not fly and fell again.

      At the same time, the sailors of the Ukrainian Navy filmed their own shame on the video and put it on the Web - apparently in confirmation of the fact that the state of the Ukrainian army leaves much to be desired, Channel Five writes.
      1. cosmos132
        cosmos132 10 September 2014 20: 44
        +9
        But the militia from the T-64 at a distance of 5 km knocked out one boat of dill another sank
    5. Penzyac
      Penzyac 10 September 2014 21: 15
      0
      Quote: VICTOR-61
      Correctly let's beat parashenko to Kiev

      There it is just possible without large-caliber guns, and even more so without MLRS.
    6. Carlos
      Carlos 10 September 2014 21: 18
      +6
      Let me remind volunteers of the terbatalons (probably from the word terrorist), the National Guard (in the people of the National Guard): regardless of the degree of your Svidomo, you are just cannon fodder for the president and the leadership of the ATO. You are not needed in Kiev, and even with weapons. If you die, they’ll write missing, if the body is nevertheless brought to relatives, bury for yours. You are not needed
      to the government, understand, you don’t need yours, then why do you need Donbass?
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 10 September 2014 21: 24
        0
        It's strange, because there are only volunteers?
      2. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov 10 September 2014 22: 29
        +3
        Quote: Carlos
        , understand, you don’t need yours, then why do you need Donbass?

        "Have you looked at the Ural dumplings?"
        -Because the gladiolus!
        They are not able to think constructively, I talked to them online before the dope, they don’t understand basic things and what the saddest thing they don’t want to understand!
        You’ll remember how it all began. BEFORE unleashing the anti-Russian hysteria, Egg-to-nose stated that Ukraine was at a crossroads between the CU and the EU. The question is: Where will the several million WELL-educated, WHITE people go to work !!!
        Clearly making it clear that wherever they go, prosperity will come right there right away!
        Where is this golden time? Now we see the education of the population without embellishment. Yes, and there is no desire to work at hohlopiteks completely.
    7. Sergey Vl.
      Sergey Vl. 10 September 2014 21: 53
      +4
      Yes, they do not refuse to fight - they only give it to them, but they want to arm themselves to the teeth, having artillery, tanks, aircraft and support from the Navy. Without this, the punitive operation is not high ..
    8. Sandov
      Sandov 10 September 2014 22: 22
      +2
      Quote: VICTOR-61
      Correctly let's beat parashenko to Kiev

      And it’s better to go home, winter is on the nose. Leave New Russia alone, they already have their own state. Clean up yourself. Drive the jerks from Kiev.
  2. Toltec
    Toltec 10 September 2014 19: 21
    +49
    It would be commendable if they refused to kill their former compatriots, and so ... ordinary cunning dill.
    1. Oleg NSK
      Oleg NSK 10 September 2014 19: 26
      +17
      ... it's a pity ... every time I open such a message ... I hope that .... !!! Hurray, have seen the light ... have seen ... have heard !!!! "... and again disappointment
      1. Balbes_I
        Balbes_I 10 September 2014 19: 42
        +11
        And what else can you expect from Svidomo? There, most of them gathered to receive a salary and privileges in the future as a participant in the hostilities, of course to play in the box for United Ukraine, and even more so for its president, they are not included in their plans.
        1. Ural45
          Ural45 10 September 2014 20: 45
          +2
          "What else can you expect from Svidomo?" What? To jump to the Maidan, otherwise the fathers-commanders will accuse them of belonging to those who do not jump. A girl with a scythe on a confused and she rides before the elections!
      2. Antor
        Antor 10 September 2014 19: 45
        +19
        Even more disappointing are the mothers of those called up for the ATO !?
        Women, mothers, for the most part, demand not stop the fratricidal war, all the horrors that it’s no longer a secret in Ukraine, but heavy weapons and decent uniforms for their men so that they can fight in the southeast and kill, kill and kill, but that as much as possible with impunity ..! ???
        In my understanding, this is some kind of coven of witches requiring someone else's blood ..! Few in Ukraine are already 200 and 300, I’m not talking about the missing (count those killed as well), it is necessary that their account goes to tens and hundreds of thousands!?
        So I want to tell the mothers of Ukraine, come to your senses !?
        1. ARES623
          ARES623 10 September 2014 21: 06
          +5
          They are there all 300, to the head
          1. Victor Demchenko
            Victor Demchenko 11 September 2014 06: 18
            0
            urine! fool urine! : urine! fool
      3. zzz
        zzz 10 September 2014 19: 45
        +4
        Quote: Oleg NSK
        ... it's a pity ... every time I open such a message ... I hope that .... !!! Hurray, have seen the light ... have seen ... have heard !!!! "... and again disappointment

        But I still hope that it was an excuse, and they really no longer want to kill their own.
      4. Toltec
        Toltec 10 September 2014 20: 14
        +3
        Today I read on anti-Maidan, people play something on the network, and says that in the spring Ukrainians screamed their pseudo-greetings (apparently something about heroes and fat) ... and now they are silent ... sooner or later it will come.
      5. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 10 September 2014 20: 46
        +2
        Quote: Oleg NSK
        ... it's a pity ... every time I open such a message ... I hope that .... !!! Hurray, have seen the light ... have seen ... have heard !!!! "... and again disappointment

        Dill after thinning, usually a new shoot grows ..)) (SMERSH did not finish) You need to look at the root .. In the west, dill is very thick ... The main dill in Kiev and roots in the USA! You need to chop the roots and not chop the tops! That's where the task is complicated ..
    2. Stalker
      Stalker 10 September 2014 19: 35
      +35
      The battalion of Kiev security officials "Cherkasy" refused to advance to Donetsk

      Apparently wiser Svidomo !!!

      Sorry add off topic ... hi

      The country where it was forbidden to sell alcohol to itself after 22:00, wanted to spit on all these sanctions ... laughing

      When the toasts ended:
      If you drink a glass of vodka every time the UN Security Council says "deeply concerned," you can get drunk in shit in 10 minutes. laughing


      - What are the most serious sanctions the West can introduce?
      - Prohibit the export of cosmetics to Russia! Can you imagine what will happen when millions of unpainted women take to the streets ?!


      Arseniy Yatsenyuk proposes to build a wall on the border. Great idea!
      In connection with the coming winter, cold weather and the inevitable collapse of the Ukrainian economy, the Russians themselves must build a wall on the border with Ukraine, establish the Night Watch and defend it from the Wild. belay


      Ancient Ukrainians built pyramids to store in them the fat of dinosaurs.


      The preliminary data of the commission to investigate the causes of the crash of the Malaysian Boeing have been published. According to the commission, on the basis of long-term painstaking research, it is already possible to say with a certain degree of confidence that significant damage to the airliner was caused by gravity, as a result of an aircraft collision with the surface of planet Earth. request


      I don’t understand in any way - why is London still not bombing the cities of Scotland ?! request laughing
      1. zennon
        zennon 10 September 2014 19: 49
        +11
        Quote: Stalker
        Ancient Ukrainians built pyramids to store in them the fat of dinosaurs.

        Spare the stalker !!! I’m tired of laughing! Quietly crawl from the chair ... laughing
        1. Stalker
          Stalker 10 September 2014 20: 13
          +3
          Brace yourself, Andrey !!! It's only the beginning !!!! laughing
      2. arane
        arane 10 September 2014 19: 56
        +24
        - What are the most serious sanctions the West can introduce?
        - Prohibit the export of cosmetics to Russia! Can you imagine what will happen when millions of unpainted women take to the streets ?!

        Here I do not agree! Our and without cosmetics super, almost everything!
        1. Stalker
          Stalker 10 September 2014 20: 17
          +4
          Here I do not agree! Our and without cosmetics super, almost everything!

          There is one more !
          To find out what the bride really looks like, she needs to be met at the exit of the bath (before she has time to make up) !!!! lol
          1. Styx
            Styx 10 September 2014 20: 29
            +8
            but, but I’ll ask you not to offend the bird;)))) we and painted ma bell repeat and unpainted! tongue
          2. RONIN-HS
            RONIN-HS 10 September 2014 20: 30
            +4
            ... To find out what the bride really looks like, she needs to be met at the exit of the bath (before she has time to make up) !!!! lol ...

            So we used to choose brides before ... laughing
            And now the next generation chooses in nightclubs and discos ...
            Hence 50% of divorces ... IMHO
        2. sabakina
          sabakina 10 September 2014 20: 26
          +10
          Something reminiscent of a joke:
          - Damn, what just didn’t make up, all the same, zero attention to me ...
          - And you did not try to be painted?
      3. jjj
        jjj 10 September 2014 20: 07
        +7
        There was still:
        I wonder what new sanctions the EU will come up against Russia for Scotland’s exit from Britain.
        1. andrey56
          andrey56 11 September 2014 16: 24
          0
          But they will definitely say that we persuaded them and the example of Crimea is contagious!
      4. Tron
        Tron 10 September 2014 21: 46
        +5
        Quote: Stalker
        Prohibit the export of cosmetics to Russia! Can you imagine what will happen when millions of unpainted women take to the streets ?!

        Aaaaaaaaaaa !!!
        Yes, they didn’t scare, our women are the most beautiful without any makeup
      5. samoletil18
        samoletil18 10 September 2014 21: 48
        +3
        Quote: Stalker
        I don’t understand in any way - why is London still not bombing the cities of Scotland ?! request laughing

        Patience gentlemen! All will be! After the referendum.
  3. special
    special 10 September 2014 19: 21
    +7
    Heroam sala! These may be alive! laughing
    1. 0255
      0255 10 September 2014 19: 46
      +1
      maybe they will be jailed for cowardice - like how dare they not go to war with "terrorists"
  4. Giant thought
    Giant thought 10 September 2014 19: 22
    +10
    Well, disobedience began with whole battalions, it will soon come to a march to Kiev.
    1. typhoon7
      typhoon7 10 September 2014 20: 12
      +12
      By the way, the battalion "Aydar" entered into a clash with the ukroarmiya near the village of Nizhneye "Discusia ru", but in general the army of Novorossia is preparing for the offensive of the junta, well, in the course of the columns it covers them. He covered one Motorola, the other near Mariupol was crumbled. Found a funny thing.
  5. Dimsanych
    Dimsanych 10 September 2014 19: 22
    +15
    They violated all the requirements of the charter, not wanting to just die. Of course, strange people ... And why they don’t want to go and die for nothing, for no one and for nothing
  6. Akvadra
    Akvadra 10 September 2014 19: 22
    +23
    What kind of war ?! They rode PUNISHING! And there suddenly a little answer. Yes, such that snot in different directions. Why do they need such a crap!
  7. sergey261180
    sergey261180 10 September 2014 19: 23
    +12
    "Or set for us the tasks that we can perform with our weapons, or provide us with weapons to perform the tasks that are set for us"

    Majors dill. And if, according to the latest technology, equipping with joy would ride?
    1. doctor
      doctor 10 September 2014 19: 28
      +5
      I doubt it. Already realized that the enemy in Kiev.
    2. Vasek
      Vasek 10 September 2014 19: 47
      +4
      Quote: sergey261180
      would you jump from happiness?

      Would jump.
      But not out of happiness, but out of habit.
  8. sever.56
    sever.56 10 September 2014 19: 23
    +6
    I doubt that give them the most advanced weapons, that would be good. The point is not iron, but maybe they realized that they were laying their heads for the Nazi oligarchs to put an extra hundred million green in their pocket. The meat no longer wants to be meat.
  9. uteko
    uteko 10 September 2014 19: 26
    +5
    Quote: Toltec
    It would be commendable if they refused to kill their former compatriots, and so ... ordinary cunning dill.


    you say correctly, clever .. Ukrainians))
    1. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 10 September 2014 19: 52
      +8
      Quote: uteko
      you say correctly, clever .. Ukrainians))


      My dad used the word "sly", it turned out a decent curse.
      1. jjj
        jjj 10 September 2014 20: 08
        +4
        Quote: B.T.W.
        sly "

        Must remember the term
  10. Barboskin
    Barboskin 10 September 2014 19: 30
    +3
    It is not necessary to strictly judge these soldiers, and even we have no sofas for it. Their requirements are quite normal, and indeed there is really no desire to fight.
  11. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 10 September 2014 19: 31
    +3
    When their president receives an order from the State Department to end the ceasefire, it turns out that there is already no one to fight. That would be how many lives would be saved.
  12. TECHNOLOGY
    TECHNOLOGY 10 September 2014 19: 32
    +4
    Video opupet! But, Special, these will not remain alive. They will be killed in Volnovakha. They will not take Mariupol without losses. With this damn "truce" something will happen. And strong.
  13. nstarinsky
    nstarinsky 10 September 2014 19: 32
    +7
    A rabble of cowardly dogs. If they were given nuclear weapons, they would have rushed off. In this spiritually impoverished country, no more common sense remained. The refusal to fight is motivated by all just the lack of striking ability of their weapons. What is the truce in figs with them ?! Between a bad world and a good war, they all choose the latter there.
  14. Evilcat
    Evilcat 10 September 2014 19: 34
    +4
    Just wondering. Why an article without a signature? However, everything is clear from the title. The Cherkassy battalion has nothing to do with the Kiev security forces. Where is Cherkasy and where is Kiev? Here the very fact that the Cherkasy guys did not go to fight for Kiev speaks for itself.
    1. Slavaman
      Slavaman 10 September 2014 20: 22
      +1
      the very fact that Cherkasy guys did not go to fight for Kiev speaks for itself.

      Don't go, but why ... again, no weapons! Now, if they declared that fighting with the people is a crime, then yes. And so I regard it all as whining in order to freeze the buns from the command with the help of which they will bravely smash the "terrorists" without effort and loss.
    2. Penzyac
      Penzyac 10 September 2014 21: 55
      0
      Quote: EvilCat
      Just wondering. Why an article without a signature? However, everything is clear from the title. The Cherkassy battalion has nothing to do with the Kiev security forces. Where is Cherkasy and where is Kiev? Here the very fact that the Cherkasy guys did not go to fight for Kiev speaks for itself.

      What the hell is Kiev ?! "Cherkasy" - a microdistrict in Penza, spent his childhood there ... Obbrozet, damn it!
  15. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 10 September 2014 19: 34
    +13
    Well, this is not the first case ... Inspired by the ideas of the automaidan for a change of place, Zaporizhzhya was visited by Slavau-Ukrainian servicemen who had left their positions in the ATO zone.
    Slavau-Ukrainian soldiers traveled on a school bus and KrAZ, drove home to Ivano-Frankivsk.
    According to the deputy regional military commissar Mikhail Logvinov: "These were the soldiers of the 5th battalion of territorial defense, their battalion was surrounded in Amvrosiyevka, constantly fired upon, and in order to escape the guys decided to leave the military location without the order of the commander and without surrendering their weapons."

    Meanwhile, the Heroic battalion commander Semen Semenchenko, who is also Konstantin Grishin, has declared a hunt for a sadist Doberman. They are clearly not pulling both into the anti-terrorist operation zone. Having fun hide and seek in the rear.
    Most likely Doberman is trying to invent a conscientious legend and shed away from Slavaukrainy. In general, the heroes of the Maidan substitute each other at their leisure.

    1. Shoma-1970
      Shoma-1970 10 September 2014 19: 42
      +1
      Quote: Novel 1977
      Meanwhile, the Heroic battalion commander Semen Semenchenko, who is also Konstantin Grishin, has declared a hunt for the sadist Doberman.


      To convey to the Chechens ?! laughing
    2. Vasek
      Vasek 10 September 2014 19: 52
      +2
      In the first video - a bus without glasses. Is this, in any way, a convertible in Ukrainian?
    3. Revolver
      Revolver 10 September 2014 21: 27
      +1
      Quote: Novel 1977
      Slavau-Ukrainian soldiers moved on a school bus and KrAZ ... their battalion was surrounded in Amvrosievka,

      What kind of environment is it from which they calmly leave on KrAZ trucks, especially on a school bus, and even with weapons? Or was this battalion surrounded by superior forces such as one militia with a perfectly integral AK? And no one saw that, but they knew for sure what it was. Well then, yes, there was no other choice but to take a drink from a position.
    4. Reasonable
      Reasonable 10 September 2014 21: 55
      +1
      Unfortunately in Russia they also work for them, only for the European beholder. And in Ukraine, there is a conflict between two "bank overseers" American and European.
      Judging by the movements in the power of New Russia, one of the watchers wants to gain a foothold there.

      How can one defend the Motherland when taking advantage of the victory comes just another "overseer". And even our president of Russia is not yet able to oppose this.
      Liberators must manage the liberated territory! And not the henchmen of the fifth column.
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  16. Thompson
    Thompson 10 September 2014 19: 34
    +1
    Quote: Toltec
    It would be commendable if they refused to kill their former compatriots, and so ... ordinary cunning dill.

    He took off the tongue. They do not want to fight not for ideological and human reasons, but only because of a lack of weapons. So much for the blood brothers.! am
  17. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 10 September 2014 19: 35
    +8
    No, the lack of weapons is an occasion. The lack of armaments at first did not stop the militias with hunting rifles. Not obeying the order is a grave war crime, in martial law a tribunal would be waiting for them all. An example is contagious. Such troops can be sent to attack only by supporting them with detachments.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 10 September 2014 22: 01
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      No, the lack of weapons is an occasion. The lack of armaments at first did not stop the militias with hunting rifles. Not obeying the order is a grave war crime, in martial law a tribunal would be waiting for them all. An example is contagious. Such troops can be sent to attack only by supporting them with detachments.

      And then, only pretty drunk with a vodka without fat ... No.
      1. Commissar of the NKVD
        Commissar of the NKVD 10 September 2014 23: 21
        0
        A vodka is not enough for such a brave army, they will fly off their hooves earlier.
  18. Shoma-1970
    Shoma-1970 10 September 2014 19: 40
    +3
    What kind of armed forces can Ukraine have if battalion commanders goblins type of semchenko.
    1. Commissar of the NKVD
      Commissar of the NKVD 10 September 2014 23: 19
      0
      By the way, for some reason I got the impression that this textbook for psychiatrists Semenchenko-Grishin perfectly embodies the essence of ukrovoinstvo. Judge for yourself. Behind the rear was atrocious, and when I had to fight, he fled from the cauldron, leaving his soldiers to die. Along the way, I got a bullet in the ass from my own crooked-armed fighter, who does not know how to handle weapons, without knowing what merits he received a state award, and when he showed his face, there was nothing to look at.
  19. vitaz
    vitaz 10 September 2014 19: 40
    +3
    Fall!!! dill is ripening
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 10 September 2014 22: 03
      0
      Quote: vitaz
      Fall!!! dill is ripening

      Usually, in the fall, all the dill goes to a pickle ...
  20. Altona
    Altona 10 September 2014 19: 41
    +3
    The Ukroppenführer lost his equipment in the battle for Donbass, normal with the BC, due to the massive brave abandonment of positions by his loyal Ukrovermacht ... And the Zbroyn forces are now in the position of the Red Army near Rzhev, when literally the bodies of the soldiers had to hold back the front, because there was no equipment ... .I understand that at the NATO summit, Petro Aleksievich hoped for "Lend-Lease", instead of the spent weapons ... Well, "Lend-Lease" went with all sorts of junk from Romanians, Spaniards, Slovaks, Poles ... that's enough, they've lost dozens of vehicles, but only a few come in and not for free, and what about spare parts and ammunition ...
    1. SFIR
      SFIR 10 September 2014 20: 09
      +2
      and the militia will select this technique, or rather, they will throw it in flight like the rest
  21. FREGATENKAPITAN
    FREGATENKAPITAN 10 September 2014 19: 43
    +7
    Yes .... of course you can understand ... as they say, you can’t argue against the tank .... Just how can we die all as one for United Krajina? Punish the separatists? ........ Of course, a hundred tanks per hundred militias (as happened before) it is more interesting to fight ......... That's the whole lousy patriotism .......
  22. parafoiler
    parafoiler 10 September 2014 19: 44
    +7
    Quote: Moment
    The battalion of the Kiev security forces "Cherkasy" will not fight with the army of Novorossia. Well, at least so, and not how Semenchenko happened.


    Ukropskoe "heroism" is getting smaller and thinner ... U.rod ... Right.
  23. special
    special 10 September 2014 19: 45
    +3
    Quote: TECHNAR
    Video opupet! But, Special, these will not remain alive. They will be killed in Volnovakha. They will not take Mariupol without losses. With this damn "truce" something will happen. And strong.

    Yes, it's a pity that innocent people will die again than innocent people ... We will play this truce ...
    1. Naum
      Naum 10 September 2014 22: 28
      +1
      Guys, believe me, this "truce" will end in a terrible massacre! The last carnage for the Outskirts. I would like to believe that both Novorossiya and Russia understand this and are preparing for such an inevitable scenario. Days count. They will not be able to fight near the * wing in a rotten autumn (and even more so in the rare nasty southern winter). September is their last opportunity for revenge. The blitzkrieg failed, but the agony of the fascist regime will continue and bring a lot of grief to the Outskirts and Novorossiya. It is bad that the puppeteers of this massacre will again sit out safely behind their "Big Puddle". That’s where to direct the civil war! Definitely: World Evil Empire - USA - must be destroyed!
      As you like and by anyone, but to the bottom!
  24. father nikon
    father nikon 10 September 2014 19: 45
    +2
    I thought ukrovoyske all svidomo, but it turns out there are still a little thinking Svidomo! Maybe all is not yet lost, maybe the brains of the Ukrainian "nation" will rise in place)))
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 10 September 2014 22: 07
      +2
      Quote: father Nikon
      I thought ukrovoyske all svidomo, but it turns out there are still a little thinking Svidomo! Maybe all is not yet lost, maybe the brains of the Ukrainian "nation" will rise in place)))

      These are not thoughts, but the instinct of self-preservation, any cattle wants to live.
  25. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 10 September 2014 19: 46
    +9
    they were tasked with going to a checkpoint near Donetsk “Repel the attacks of enemy artillery and armored vehicles, arming only with small arms ».
    What a weak motivation this battalion has. It is impossible for me to imagine that in the fall of the 41st Podolsk cadets would refuse to advance to the first echelon, because. They do not have enough anti-tank weapons and air cover is rather weak .. And here I want to fight, I want not. During the war, such sentiments are unacceptable. And NATO will not send these soldiers courage in "Hercules".
  26. Siberian
    Siberian 10 September 2014 19: 49
    +1
    Sent - then stand on the block post. I don’t understand anything: why do we need weapons on it. Well, stand yourself, yes stand, check what is supposed to be, watch. heavy guns there, at this checkpoint why? And what is there to do with the whole battalion? What kind of checkpoint is so powerful?
    1. Altona
      Altona 10 September 2014 20: 24
      +2
      Quote: Siberian
      Sent - then stand on the block post.

      ----------------------
      Probably the position of the first echelon is now called a checkpoint - a line of trenches, dugouts, dug up armored vehicles as firing points ... And so, they sent the guys literally to partisan - to sit in the grass with a machine gun and hope that you would not be covered in a volley from a mortar, guns or Hail ...
  27. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx 10 September 2014 19: 51
    +6
    And the command sending fighters to the fratricidal war sits in the warmth and does not drip over it.
  28. brdnxela
    brdnxela 10 September 2014 20: 01
    +4
    With personal weapons, you need to fight with a real enemy in direct combat. And these are heroes, i.e. "cannon fodder". And the Ukrainian "cannon fodder" is capable of fighting only at a cannon-shot distance and only with civilians.
  29. Oleg NSK
    Oleg NSK 10 September 2014 20: 03
    +1
    ... I think that this is just an internal political fuss ... a registered report, for domestic use ... for example, from BYuT, or from another candidate for the post of the last president of Ukraine

    PS judging by the video, the column is clearly on its way ... just on the way "tours" give
  30. ARES623
    ARES623 10 September 2014 20: 22
    +1
    And for whom to fight? The government does not even want to bury its dead, not to mention more. Apart from slogans and accusations, nothing. Full PPC! They need everyone in the militia :-))))))))
  31. Dalmatia
    Dalmatia 10 September 2014 20: 26
    +1
    All this nonsense ... Tomorrow they will report that the battalion arrived safely at the place of deployment.
  32. pvv113
    pvv113 10 September 2014 20: 34
    +3
    Quote: Sergei1982
    The Ukrainian Osa-M air defense system created an emergency during the NATO and Ukraine exercises in the Black Sea, Russian and Ukrainian media reported. A missile launched from the Ukrainian Ternopol anti-submarine ship at a joint NATO exercise fell into the water, emerged and headed toward the ship, but did not fly and fell again.

    At the same time, the sailors of the Ukrainian Navy filmed their own shame on the video and put it on the Web - apparently in confirmation of the fact that the state of the Ukrainian army leaves much to be desired, Channel Five writes.

    Again Russia is to blame ... request
  33. Nazrug
    Nazrug 10 September 2014 20: 45
    +1
    you can count on the fingers of the militia of heavy equipment and Kiev knows about it, knows that no armored vehicles will attack, therefore send cops to fight with armored vehicles, but for dumb hohlozombies it will do, because it sounds like it is with enemy armored vehicles and artillery (tobish Russia) to fight, and to shoot down baseball bats weakly?
  34. drags33
    drags33 10 September 2014 21: 03
    +1
    Really these fighters still did not understand that it is necessary to advance not in the direction of Donetsk, but in the direction of Kiev ...?
  35. Plamenvarna
    Plamenvarna 10 September 2014 21: 03
    +3
    "The battalion of the Kiev security forces" Cherkasy "refused to advance to Donetsk"
    ---
    - Ha haa ... runaway zakaka?
    The DRAP-battalion does not want to "move forward" ... to the front.
    And how passionately I wanted ... when, according to peaceful people, you could shoot so much for pleasure as in a shooting gallery ...
    But the peaceful children were not very peaceful understand ...
    and shoot back, and kill us and reduce us for the most part you started to see ...
    - Oh mommy!
    - I want to mom!
    - And I insist!
    “I will do love, not war.”
    - Pijs bradar ... pijs.
    I want a toilet.
  36. tomcat117
    tomcat117 10 September 2014 21: 08
    +2
    Quote: max702
    Her everything is much more neglected ...


    "Lyashkuns" are flourishing!
  37. jovanni
    jovanni 10 September 2014 21: 11
    +1
    Well, you won’t get enough of all the suitable heavy equipment ... Again, refuel it, then, behold ... Don't die lightly, just like that, with rubybikes. All the hassle is less. To everyone.
  38. Akulina
    Akulina 10 September 2014 21: 12
    +2
    Quote: VICTOR-61
    Correctly let's beat parashenko to Kiev

    Yes, they are soo, ki agree to fight with their former compatriots, they only want weapons, pennies and grub. No, only the grave will correct this newly minted full-time race ...
  39. Plamenvarna
    Plamenvarna 10 September 2014 21: 22
    +3
    Quote from the decree of September 8:
    "The Kiev city council, because of the ATO, banned the use of fireworks for 3 months in order to prevent the manifestation of social tension associated with the special nature of the perception of pyrotechnic effects by residents of Kiev."
    ---
    Oh oh oh.
    Which one is bigger.
    You may be expected yet.
  40. Volyn
    Volyn 10 September 2014 21: 23
    +2
    Quote: domokl
    Are they going to Kiev? Or I don’t understand something? According to the report, the soldiers agreed to fight in the east, but with heavy equipment and artillery.
    and so they don’t shoot at them yet ...
    1. KAM
      KAM 12 September 2014 20: 22
      +1
      The main thing is that they agree to kill !! And American friends will give the technique.
  41. Rigla
    Rigla 10 September 2014 21: 25
    +1
    As long as the Army of Novorossiya continues to take prisoners of independence, organize corridors and engage in cease-fires, all this time there will be hell in the Donbass.
    1. KAM
      KAM 12 September 2014 20: 20
      0
      Totally agree with you!!! War cannot be civil!
  42. crambol
    crambol 10 September 2014 21: 29
    +1
    “They violated all the requirements of the charter,” said Dmitrashkovsky, spokesman for the ATO headquarters.


    But do you, toad, come with us?

  43. O. Bender
    O. Bender 10 September 2014 21: 30
    +1
    Heroes without nuclear hand grenades and laser blasters, as well as boots of fast walkers refuse to go into battle. For this they were called cowards and sent to the canteen for lunch. Wonderful organisms in the sun are tamed. !
  44. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 10 September 2014 21: 31
    +1
    good news. bortanuli order - this is the main thing, and what arguments led to the justification of the tenth case. as the heat begins, then many dill will be ready to repeat this fort.
  45. vadik191007
    vadik191007 10 September 2014 21: 40
    +1
    Quote: Moment
    The battalion of the Kiev security forces "Cherkasy" will not fight with the army of Novorossia. Well, at least so, and not how Semenchenko happened.

    Yes, he has a natural face embitsila)))
  46. olf_1959
    olf_1959 10 September 2014 21: 52
    +1
    The siloviki have a five-fold advantage in heavy weapons, but they aren’t on the front lines, something is not clear. Either valiant warriors do not want to fight and mow, or they are really thrown with weapons, which they then trade in.
    1. Moskvich
      Moskvich 10 September 2014 22: 05
      0
      the number may be a multiple of 5, but not all drives and even more so shoots.
      Recall the radio interception with Bear :)
  47. Black
    Black 10 September 2014 21: 52
    +1
    It seems to me that this "slope", noticeably very organized (and therefore from above), is nothing more than an internal political struggle in the upcoming elections. The "dad" of the Gestapo thereby knocks down Parashka and those with him.
  48. Bassoon
    Bassoon 10 September 2014 21: 52
    +1
    But how many of these battalions are there? By analogy with the Maidan, the battalion of Narnia, consisting of lovers of elves and other fairy tales, has not yet appeared there?
    1. KAM
      KAM 12 September 2014 20: 29
      0
      Elves, not elves, but enough people! If they add equipment, it will not be very good.
  49. Moskvich
    Moskvich 10 September 2014 22: 03
    +1
    what will happen now?
    Both sides are getting ready. The armaments of the Army of New Russia are more than (can not be compared with the beginning of August, although then they drove the Ukrainians into the boilers
    It will be difficult for the Army of New Russia if the proto-Ukrainians took into account the mistakes of the previous months.
  50. sazhka4
    sazhka4 10 September 2014 22: 11
    +5
    They do not refuse. There is simply no weapon that is needed. Morons .. And so they do not mind.