Irkutsk aircraft factory will begin production of the Yak-152

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The Irkutsk aircraft factory receives the necessary documentation and prepares production sites for the manufacture of an experimental batch of the Yak-152 TCB, the newspaper reports MIC with reference to Interfax-AVN.

Irkutsk aircraft factory will begin production of the Yak-152


According to an agency source in the aviation industry, "today the Yak-152 developer of the Yakovlev Design Bureau, which is part of the Irkut corporation, has almost completed the transfer of aircraft documentation to the serial factory."

“At the Irkutsk Aviation Plant, the design of tooling for the manufacture of the first gliders of Yak-152 aircraft has already begun. It is planned that by the end of this year, parts, components and assemblies for the construction of an experimental batch of aircraft will be put into production in Irkutsk. ”Said the interlocutor.

He also said that “in the 2015, the first two flight samples of the Yak-152 aircraft, which will be involved in conducting state tests, and two aircraft for ground static and resource tests, should be made.” Completion of state tests of the training machine is planned for 2016.

“As the power plant on the Yak-152, a French diesel engine of 400 power will be used. with."- clarified the source.

He recalled that the OKB them. Yakovleva is the winner of the Defense Ministry’s competition for the best project of the two-seat TCF “for initial training and professional selection of flight personnel in the air force flight schools.”

The equipment placed on board the aircraft will allow flights in adverse weather conditions. The machine will be installed ejection system SKS-94M.

Help edition: “The maximum horizontal flight speed of the Yak-152 aircraft will be 300-320 km / h, the maximum flight altitude is 4000 m, and the flight range is 1400 km. Normal takeoff weight - 1320 kg. The resource will be at least 10 thousand hours and 30 thousand landings. It is assumed that on the new TCB, cadets of military flight schools, as well as training aviation centers of DOSAAF of Russia will be trained in piloting techniques and the basics of navigation, aerobatics, group flights, etc. ".
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    1. +4
      9 September 2014 20: 52
      Diesel freezes in winter.
      1. +13
        9 September 2014 21: 02
        Quote: figvam
        Diesel freezes in winter.

        The Arctic will be flooded, and aviation kerosene will be added, if that ... It will be normal.
        1. +13
          9 September 2014 22: 54
          “As a power plant on the Yak-152 will be used a French diesel engine with a capacity of 400 liters. with." Again the French engine as on the superjet? belay And the story of the Mistrals taught nothing ?????
          1. +2
            10 September 2014 04: 13
            To be honest, we have a serious drawdown in the engine industry in general = (Diesel is big, we have good goods, there are a lot of orders for them and they are developing, but there are problems with small (up to 400hp), and talk about aviation and engines (piston) not worth it, there are no orders, therefore the development is the same = (
          2. 0
            10 September 2014 18: 09
            You +, article-. On the engines.
        2. +2
          10 September 2014 07: 15
          Quote: Nick
          Arctic flood

          Air cooling engine. Where will we fill the "Arctic", into the tank? Yes, and in the solarium is no longer kerosene, and gel additives are added. And there is also winter diesel fuel.
      2. -31
        9 September 2014 21: 04
        In general, why are they needed? For the rich Russians who have nowhere to put their money? Import millionaires, and even ours, fly in Western technology and do not fall. For air clubs to build, so again, imported will come out cheaper in the end. Maybe I'm a layman, not a patriot, a traitor and just a bastard, but that our industry has nothing else to do, the same "Irkut", planes give the troops a teaspoon each.
        1. +28
          9 September 2014 21: 09
          Quote: juborg
          But in general, why are they needed?

          You do not need do not take. But the article clearly states: "... OKB named after Yakovlev is the winner of the Ministry of Defense competition for the best project of a two-seat TCB" for initial training and professional selection of flight personnel in the Air Force flight schools. "
          Stop doing demagogy.
          1. DMB-88
            +22
            9 September 2014 21: 30
            Very embarrassed by the French dvigun. Why not ours? Again we can not or can not?
            When it comes to flying vehicles for entertainment and the pleasures of the rich, at least make them from plywood! The traditions and experience of our military and civil aviation are so rich that it is a shame to order imported components, to put it mildly, but seriously, this is a shame !!!!
            1. +4
              9 September 2014 22: 24
              Quote: DMB-88
              Very embarrassed by the French dvigun.

              And here, more new sanctions are being prepared ... smile
            2. +6
              9 September 2014 22: 45
              I agree, foreign foreign stuffed - shame and shame! But let me remind you that we generally have trouble with diesel engines - we do not have light and powerful engines. Let them put it on the first batch of cars, but still it is necessary to begin production of their own.
              1. +12
                9 September 2014 23: 00
                Quote: pilot8878
                we do not have light and powerful motors.

                All my life I have been studying aviation, and all my life it’s the same — NO MOVERS! Seriously, there has never been a time in 100 years of history when we didn’t suffer from it! Just like before the revolution we imported, so did after 30! For years, they bought licenses. Throughout the war, they suffered from the lack of normal engines for fighter jets. After the war, they bought from the British. Then, they got noise and low resources. How many years did the PS-90 finish, where are they? In Samara, how many years have they fought over the NK-93? Where result? Factories in dill left, again, no crap! At the same time, a lot of high-class educational institutions. Like w there is a stake, but no movers ...
                1. +3
                  10 September 2014 00: 28
                  All my life I have been studying aviation, and all my life it’s the same — NO MOVERS! Seriously, there has never been a time in 100 years of history when we didn’t suffer from it! Just like before the revolution we imported, so did after 30! For years, they bought licenses. Throughout the war, they suffered from the lack of normal engines for fighter jets. After the war, they bought from the British. Then, they got noise and low resources. How many years did the PS-90 finish, where are they? In Samara, how many years have they fought over the NK-93? Where result? Factories in dill left, again, no crap! At the same time, a lot of high-class educational institutions. Like w there is a stake, but no movers ...


                  I subscribe to EVERY word!
                2. diesel
                  +3
                  10 September 2014 04: 48
                  The Americans bought shares of Kuznetsov Design Bureau and practically destroyed it; NK-33 and NK-25 (TU-22 and TU-160) cannot resume production.
            3. +1
              10 September 2014 00: 14
              With Dvigun, the big question is what to pose and has not yet been resolved, but on the forum they are already tearing each other to shreds.
            4. +1
              10 September 2014 00: 24
              The traditions and experience of our military and civil aviation are so rich

              Engines are traditionally the weak spot of our aircraft. If the power is good - the resource is small, or the fuel is eating - mama In the 80s, current-currents like schools developed .... And where are they? In the best case, on the Dnieper ... fool

              On the whole, I agree: "import substitution" is necessary. Even in the form of licenses. (Also, our good tradition - by the way)
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            6. 0
              10 September 2014 09: 38
              DMB-88 "The French dvigun is very embarrassing. Why isn't ours? Again we can't or can't?"

              Dear colleague Tuliev, AI-14 and M-14 engines (the so-called latest AI-14 modifications) of various modifications were installed on this class of vehicles in the USSR. Alas, the Voronezh plant stopped the production of these engines since 1994, and the OKB has not been engaged in the design of engines in this segment since then. So in this situation it is easier to buy a foreign engine with a production license than to design and bring a new engine (this doesn’t take years, but at least a dozen, or even a half). This will reduce the production time of new aircraft, and the presence of engine production technology in this segment will already allow us to design and produce our own engines.
          2. The comment was deleted.
          3. s1н7т
            +1
            9 September 2014 21: 52
            Quote: Nick
            selection of flight personnel in the Air Force flight schools. "
            Stop doing demagogy.

            And how many of these schools in the Moscow Region are left, you know? laughing
            1. +4
              9 September 2014 22: 14
              Quote: c1n7
              And how many of these schools in the Moscow Region are left, you know?

              Even those that were not immediately planted on the Yak-130. In sports clubs, and private hands ...
          4. +3
            9 September 2014 22: 53
            YUBORG is not a demagogue, it is an ordinary troll. Read the comments, everything is clear at once. Another "daughter of a Russian officer" ...
          5. +1
            10 September 2014 00: 18
            I agree, it is impossible to transfer to Mig 35 after the desk.
          6. 0
            10 September 2014 05: 37
            This YAK-152 aircraft, a screw, with a foreign diesel engine and a speed of 300-320 km / h, is, at best, suitable for DOSAAF, but not less than for military flight schools.
            Military schools need a close-in-combat, cheap single-engine jet training aircraft with a domestic turbojet engine, with a maximum speed close to subsonic speed of about 900 km / h, i.e. like the Czechoslovak L-39s already developing their resource in the long work.
            As the saying goes, "what is there to reinvent the wheel" when there are already performance characteristics that only need to be improved in a new training machine.
            It looks like, unfortunately, in Russia, in the Ministry of Defense and the aviation industry, there is no clear joint "Soviet system of ordering" the aircraft necessary for the Army with clearly defined tactical and technical characteristics (TTX). They chase that without hitting. It's sad.
            1. s1н7т
              +1
              10 September 2014 17: 17
              Quote: vladimirZ
              It looks like, unfortunately, in Russia, in the Ministry of Defense and the aviation industry, there is no clear joint "Soviet system of ordering" the aircraft needed for the Army

              Alas, this is already obvious. sad
        2. +4
          9 September 2014 21: 11
          Quote: juborg
          Maybe I'm a layman, not a patriot, a traitor and just a bastard,

          That is unlikely!
          But our industry needs God the God, and Caesar the Caesarean. Those. and the military, and civilian, and training, but without French engines - not a reliable supplier, s ...
          1. +3
            9 September 2014 21: 17
            Quote: Alekseev
            without French motors - not a reliable supplier, with ...

            And their motors do not like locksmith. I heard many times: we repair any cars, except the French ones.
            1. diesel
              +1
              9 September 2014 21: 34
              Now we do not have the production of piston aircraft engines, we have to start with something, and the engine is good.
              1. +1
                9 September 2014 21: 44
                But what if we do airplanes with a jet engine? Now he is the champion in efficiency among all engines, which will allow you to have ridiculously low power consumption while maintaining power and traction characteristics from the piston.
                1. +1
                  9 September 2014 22: 58
                  like a hybrid? perhaps the idea is worth thinking about
              2. +5
                9 September 2014 22: 01
                Quote: dizelniy
                Now we do not have the production of piston aircraft engines, we have to start with something, and the engine is good.
                I don’t know about the Yak, but for Rysachka, Comrade Manturov made a promise to our president in 2016 to issue domestic engines. It would be good, otherwise, due to the current international situation, there is little hope for American nuts.
                1. +5
                  9 September 2014 22: 12
                  Quote: Thunderbolt
                  there is little hope for American nuts.


                  Hello Lesh! It's really a shame! In the 70s, the "11", "13", "15" key was put into use (it is clear that Togliatti). In the past, they switched to pound coordinates instead of kilometer ones. What for? For the sake of scoundrels, of course ... I hope that the sanctions will sober up the President and Russia will remember that at the turn of the 80s and 90s of the last century it had already become a leader!
                  1. +3
                    9 September 2014 22: 33
                    Hi drinks , this is Russia !! We can introduce a pound system and at the same time the Duma discusses a ban on foreign words in our native language laughing The hardening of the country is socialist, and it is necessary to act in the conditions of capitalism. I still hope that before the adoption of the new coordinate system the most competent expert opinions were heard and this is reasonable. Well, at least they didn’t switch to arshins, though ..
                    1. +2
                      9 September 2014 22: 44
                      Quote: Thunderbolt
                      . Well, at least they didn’t switch to arshins, though.


                      Could it be better, Lesh on arshins? You well done, well noticed! drinks

                      The question is not in the coordinate system, but in the identification of the Nation! I think so: WE (Russia) for some reason bend under the "coordinates" of the foe? Probably, in order to be overthrown in ... years, with the next sanctions? Let's promote our metric system and we will succeed! Moreover, we are not alone in Europe!
                      1. +3
                        9 September 2014 22: 53
                        Quote: studentmati
                        Let's advance our metric system
                        Come on !! I wish I could clearly explain this to him)))
                        1. +2
                          9 September 2014 23: 03
                          Quote: Thunderbolt
                          Come on !! I wish I could clearly explain this to him)))



                          good drinks IPhone design is hard to repair! But if the Party orders, then the Komsomol will answer, yes!

                          We will try and search, and we will succeed !!!
                        2. +1
                          10 September 2014 03: 44
                          Someday he will be stopped aaaaa. That time I did not like it (they did it in a stupid way without understanding it), then the police went to the police (before the revolution the police were secret, i.e. the FSB, and the police were carried out by the gendarmerie). Now I got to the bottom of the coordinate system that there are no more cases or according to the principle "when the cat has nothing to do, he licks the eggs" !? And we are looking for the fifth column .......
                      2. +4
                        9 September 2014 23: 01
                        metric system - the birthplace of France! but somehow used to it for a long time
                        1. +1
                          9 September 2014 23: 07
                          Quote: arane
                          the metric system is the birthplace of France!


                          Bravo, Glory !!! School books of the last century! Thank you for understanding!
                  2. 0
                    9 September 2014 23: 49
                    Quote: studentmati
                    pound coordinate system instead of kilometer

                    laughing
                    Do you need to convert kilograms to miles?
                    wassat
                  3. 0
                    10 September 2014 08: 46
                    Maybe still a LOT? Pound is a measure of weight.
                  4. 0
                    10 September 2014 12: 08
                    Quote: studentmati
                    Recently switched to a pound coordinate system instead of kilometer.

                    What kind of pound system?
                2. diesel
                  +1
                  10 September 2014 04: 45
                  Manturov is a sociologist by diploma, he promises ...
          2. Fast
            +2
            10 September 2014 00: 48
            - not a reliable supplier, with ...
            Ours do not know how to make passenger diesel engines, but they don’t take it, and the French do not know how, but they do. When new, diesel rushing is certainly good, impressive, but. I got into a situation when the French diesel went into the smash, it was impossible to stop, threshed on oil, smoked the highway for 3 km, then they repaired the year, they couldn’t bring them to normal. They have junk turbines, nozzles are more expensive than gold, no one can adjust. If everything counts gasoline is much cheaper than diesel. In vain contacted.
        3. +4
          9 September 2014 21: 11
          The training plane is the same. And here are the millionaires?

          Another thing - is it not risky to depend on the French for engines?
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        5. VAF
          VAF
          +15
          9 September 2014 21: 51
          Quote: juborg
          ... Maybe I’m a layman, not a patriot, a traitor and just a bastard, but that our industry has nothing else to do, the same "Irkut", planes give the troops a teaspoon each.


          Well, you yourself are really .. very kind of harsh.
          Your "ignorance" in this topic, simply from not knowing the situation with the training of cadets.
          Tlt you think that from a good life they start to "carry" only at the end of the 3rd year and at the exit they get ... well, that's exactly what they get crying

          And so .. it will be possible to return to the "good old Soviet school" to start flight training from the 1st year ... what's wrong?
          So you look more and schools reconstruct a couple of three.
          Here, after the 1st course, it will be possible to determine the future "profile" of the pilot and immediately begin to cook, and not like now .. "brought" to the 4th course, but he cannot fly (he does not feel the ground on landing or still something) and what to do with it?
          And so them, graduates, .. per year on a teaspoon.

          so I only FOR 2 hands, that's just one "annoying" .. "French" motor recourse
          1. +1
            9 September 2014 22: 29
            Quote: vaf
            so I only FOR 2 hands, that's just one "annoying" .. "French" motor

            Alas... recourse , as in an old anecdote about a letter to the distant homeland of the old Moreman - "in the absence of women, we have coca" wink . Hi Seryoga!
          2. 0
            9 September 2014 22: 41
            I totally agree with you! Or maybe Small Aviation will get a private jolt ... not only because one wants to circle over airfields. ))) School flight schools replenish, also good.
          3. 0
            10 September 2014 00: 36
            that's just one "annoying" .. "French" motor


            Well NOOOOOOOOOOOOWU we have others! :( crying
          4. 0
            10 September 2014 02: 38
            Hello Veteran! He said everything correctly. You need to fly from the first course. Yak152 should be in conjunction with the Yak 130, for this it is let out. I agree with the motor. There were still options, but all were imported.
          5. 0
            10 September 2014 04: 01
            Quite right, it was not in vain that they came up with flights from the 2nd course. For people are divided into 3 types in relation to aviation: a pilot from God, whose pilot was taught (most of them) and "born to crawl can not fly" - such as practice shows from 5 to 15 per course. Out of 130 cadets, 8 of us were expelled for non-flying, well, people are not allowed to fly.
            Yes, and for flying clubs such a device is needed, because DOSAAF is also a forge of personnel, pilots need to be raised and trained. For whoever owns the sky on TVD has a huge gain in ground operations (I don’t remember verbatim, but something like that). It is not for nothing that the Americans are paying special attention to the development of aviation and have such a number of aircraft carriers, because this is the main striking force of the offensive and the seizure of the initiative on theater.
            In addition, the US Department of State must be destroyed
        6. Orc-xnumx
          +1
          9 September 2014 22: 21
          The theater begins with a hanger ...
        7. 0
          10 September 2014 04: 10
          Have you heard anything about such a concept as an engineering school? it doesn’t matter what happens to this instance, the main thing is that the engineers completed, did, gained experience, then this experience is transferred to other developments, and so it gets better and better, and if there is nothing to be done?
      3. +5
        9 September 2014 21: 06
        After all, cadets need to start flying on something, so the Yak-152 is just right for these purposes. We wish him a long life as the workhorse of flight schools.
        1. +5
          9 September 2014 21: 27
          In fact, training Yaks were produced in Smolensk, and now they produce Yak - 18 T, it is strange that the best Russian aircraft factory in Irkutsk, producing, for example, export Su - 30s, decided to load such a relatively simple machine. In the photo Smolensk Yak - 18T
          1. +6
            9 September 2014 22: 02
            Quote: enot73
            In fact, training Yaks were produced in Smolensk, and now they produce Yak - 18 T


            This is so, but said very loudly, unit production.

            Smolensk has been cooperating with Yakovlev for a very long time (or was it more correct to cooperate?). And there is nothing strange in the fact that they chose Irkutsk and not Smolensk. In Smolensk, for 20 years of poverty, almost all combat production workers have left. Sadly, it’s true. Is it that mobilization will save the aviation Smolensk !?
            1. DMB-88
              +4
              9 September 2014 22: 08
              Quote: studentmati
              In Smolensk, over 20 years of poverty, almost all combat production workers have left. Sadly, it is. Is it that mobilization will save aviation Smolensk !?


              Here is another plant destroyed! And how many are there all over the country ?!
              And the government doesn’t itch; everything, mlyn, moves back and forth !!!
              Our government is .... (the wildest words, pick it yourself, please, otherwise the site cannot be) ........... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
              1. VAF
                VAF
                +1
                9 September 2014 22: 15
                Quote: DMB-88
                Our government is this.


                And who confirms it at appointment? wassat Recently I heard a new "pearl" at a meeting of Their Front - it turns out ... and there is nobody else " belay
                1. DMB-88
                  0
                  9 September 2014 22: 18
                  Quote: vaf
                  And who approves it upon appointment? Recently I heard a new "pearl" at a meeting of Their Front - it turns out ... and there is nobody else "


                  You hit me, I'm in a .. e !!! Even as a joke it sounds !!!))) laughing
              2. +3
                9 September 2014 22: 22
                Quote: DMB-88
                Here is another plant destroyed! And how many are there all over the country ?!
                And the government does not itch ........... !!!!!!!!!!!!!


                The government then itches, but with this scabies a generational change has already taken place. And the GENERATION OF TRANSFERERS was in the backyard. A generational gap has occurred ... Maybe young people want to, but take an example already of a few? Result? Start from scratch.
              3. 0
                10 September 2014 04: 48
                My allies are regularly traveling to the Smolensk aircraft plant. The plant works, though more on missile-related issues.
          2. +1
            10 September 2014 00: 40
            it is strange that the best Russian aircraft plant in Irkutsk, producing, for example, export Su-30s, decided to load such a relatively simple machine.

            And this is the main question!
            It seems that they grabbed orders and mouth and ... FDI! ....
            But the government does not care. Will the market ruin?
      4. diesel
        0
        9 September 2014 21: 31
        It works on kerosene, does not freeze.
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        2. +1
          9 September 2014 23: 12
          in vain minus him, really works on kerosene
        3. 0
          10 September 2014 07: 10
          Quote: dizelniy
          It works on kerosene, does not freeze.

          Injection pump what is lubricated in this case?
      5. +1
        9 September 2014 21: 36
        Quote: figvam
        Diesel freezes in winter.

        After all, diesel fuel is also winter, although it is more expensive than summer.
      6. -3
        9 September 2014 21: 45
        To the governors for fishing itself. laughing So there are buyers, at least at the expense of regional budgets.
        1. 0
          10 September 2014 00: 44
          To the governors for fishing itself. laughing So that there are buyers, at least at the expense of regional


          It will not work ... No comfort, no cross (runway needed)
          The same as on the "car" on the dirt road.
          Another class machine.
      7. +1
        9 September 2014 22: 14
        Quote: figvam
        Diesel freezes in winter.

        What the hell are French engines for us?
        They also impose an embargo on the entire program.
        We fly into space and we don’t know how to do our diesels?
      8. 0
        9 September 2014 23: 35
        They will dilute kerosene with liquid And everything will be fine
        1. 0
          9 September 2014 23: 57
          The name - "Liquids And" in quotes would take, then not everyone will understand what liquid to dilute)))))
      9. 0
        10 September 2014 08: 08
        Quote: figvam
        “As a power plant on the Yak-152 will be used a French diesel engine with a capacity of 400 liters. s., ”the source specified.

        Sanction was not taught anything.
    2. +6
      9 September 2014 20: 52
      Why is the engine frank? Is it really impossible for ours?
    3. +1
      9 September 2014 20: 52
      And the same Yak-52 is bad for modernization. Or are there no more engines of your own?
      1. stranik72
        0
        9 September 2014 22: 29
        "Or are there no own engines already?"
        To the point, our "steering" at the beginning of the 13th year signed an act on the closure of the production of piston engines in Voronezh, and he was the only one and "inimitable", as much as the 1947 model made dvigun.
      2. 0
        10 September 2014 00: 47
        And the same Yak-52 is bad for modernization.


        He was released in Romania.

        The drawings may have been saved in KB, but it is better to launch a new one from scratch.
    4. +1
      9 September 2014 20: 52
      But will the French sell us engines?
      1. +4
        9 September 2014 20: 56
        Of course they will sell as soon as they give the go-ahead in Washington. We will receive spare parts directly from the NATO block.
        1. +1
          9 September 2014 21: 41
          De Gaulle would sell. A great friend of the Soviet Union was))).
    5. +4
      9 September 2014 20: 54
      “As a power plant on the Yak-152 will be used a French diesel engine with a capacity of 400 liters. s., ”the source specified.

      Irkutsk well done of course .. but the use of French engines is fraught with the current world situation ... You need to create your own!
      1. +1
        9 September 2014 21: 43
        Quote: MIKHAN
        “As a power plant on the Yak-152 will be used a French diesel engine with a capacity of 400 liters. s., ”the source specified.

        Irkutsk well done of course .. but the use of French engines is fraught with the current world situation ... You need to create your own!


        Moreover, this is the same YAK. Of course they can create their own engine. If necessary, they will. As with the Mistrals - in general, there is no critical dependence on the French - Mistrals can be made in the Russian Federation as well. In general, YAK and drones are great doing. For example, Russian drones "Pchela" - there was even a combat use - in the Caucasus in the 90s. The Bee UAV is used to target artillery.
    6. +4
      9 September 2014 20: 57
      The glider is super! What about the engine question? What is the diesel doing there? On hh.n.n it is needed there, especially French.
      1. +8
        9 September 2014 21: 03
        Quote: Barracuda
        What about the engine question? What is the diesel doing there?

        Rotates the screw.
        1. +1
          9 September 2014 21: 11
          Good answer. smile And then what?
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          2. 0
            10 September 2014 13: 08
            Range increases with a small amount of fuel. But with such a question, it is better to turn to vaf and listen to a professional.
      2. avt
        +3
        9 September 2014 21: 09
        Quote: Barracuda
        What is the diesel doing there?

        Quote: Nick
        Rotates the screw.

        laughing good The campaign was decided that diesel operation is cheaper. So, as a souvenir, like in a series in the Patriotic Diesel on serial aircraft, only we had Pe-8 and Ep-2 and the Germans on Blom und Fossy refuel from submarines. However, these airplanes need to be quite a few, all the same, a school desk, if only in DOSAAF, as before, but ... God forbid, they would do it for schools.
        1. +4
          9 September 2014 21: 23
          Quote: avt
          if only in DOSAAF

          That DOSAAF would be nice to revive. From there, ready-made specialist drivers, signalmen, paratroopers, divers, etc., got into the army. The knowledge and armies obtained there were useful and useful to people in life.
        2. diesel
          +4
          9 September 2014 21: 36
          This diesel engine runs on TS-1 kerosene, the usual jet fuel that we have.
      3. VAF
        VAF
        +2
        9 September 2014 22: 12
        Quote: Barracuda
        What about the engine question? What is the diesel doing there? On hh.n.n it is needed there, especially French.


        A MAN capable of "destroying" the NATIONAL RUSSIAN "FUN" has not yet been born on our land - RETURN wassat
      4. +1
        9 September 2014 23: 29
        I do not agree, judging by the photo, the distance between the bow and the main chassis is too short. The DH is too high, which is a little tilestrike when landing, and to the side wind, perhaps too sensitive. That refinement of the Yak-18 modifications with a new avionics and a redesigned cap would be nice. Although in general the idea is positive!
        1. +1
          10 September 2014 00: 00
          Quote: Grabber2000
          tilestrike

          tailstrike hi
          (those. "tail"And not "tiles" bully)
          drinks
    7. +1
      9 September 2014 21: 00
      If the sanctions continue, then we are unlikely to see the French engine.
      1. -2
        9 September 2014 21: 49
        I remembered about the screw. Why use archaic pulling? After all, it is clearly and repeatedly tested: the pushing coaxial screw has a much higher efficiency, and besides, it does not turbolize the air flow.
        1. +2
          9 September 2014 22: 18
          In order to push the screw from behind, it will have to be mastered with a transmission, which will eat up part of the power and payload. It will come out then.
        2. +1
          9 September 2014 23: 32
          Nobody canceled the additional lifting force from blowing the planes! And for UT this is good, since cadets often do not like to monitor speed.
    8. +8
      9 September 2014 21: 00
      It would be nice to run (licensed) bd-5j.
      Cool typewriter. By the way comes for self-assembly lovers. Well, yes, this is already from the realm of fantasy for Russia. good
      The largest country in the territory, and amateur aircraft in the embryo. Solid LOW ...!
      Flights in DOSAAF flying clubs are equated to flights into space, flight preparation, like that of astronauts. The same rarity, and therefore high accident rate. Ass full with this, IMHO ...
      1. 0
        9 September 2014 21: 21
        Quote: RONIN-HS
        and amateur aviation in the embryo. Solid LOW ...!

        And the arrival of Rust on Red Square did not contribute to improving the situation. winked
        1. +3
          9 September 2014 21: 52
          And most importantly - the hearts of people, especially young people, have changed. Under Stalin, the boys dreamed of becoming pilots, and the girls were not much behind. And now they dream of stealing a billion and dumping them to the West.
    9. +3
      9 September 2014 21: 05
      When will the ordinary PEOPLE be able to buy for themselves-CHEAP similar devices?
      and where is the development of light aviation ?? it is almost NOT A CULTED ECONOMIC SECTOR .. almost the same as the car!
      moreover, IT IS REALLY POSSIBLE TO RAISE AGRICULTURE AND REMOTE CORNERS of our big HOMELAND!
      1. +1
        9 September 2014 21: 15
        I think that not every person on planet Earth is allowed to have their own car. The planet may not stand it. And if everyone wants to fly? Considerable resources will be spent on infrastructure development, the organization of a dispatch service, etc.
        As for agriculture, it is probably a matter of profitability. Fuel has risen in price.
        1. 0
          9 September 2014 21: 56
          About fuel. There were projects of giant atomic airships, even in such serious publications as Science and Life. For me, this is an ideal transport for the development of the country's outskirts. There are not many airports there, and huge regular deliveries are needed right now. Therefore, quite naturally, people looked at the airships.
      2. 0
        10 September 2014 00: 53
        CAN BE RAISED AND AGRICULTURE


        There ultralights quite cope. True, people are not yet accustomed to such a circus!
    10. +4
      9 September 2014 21: 07
      “As a power plant on the Yak-152 will be used a French diesel engine with a capacity of 400 liters. s., ”the source specified.
      Few with the Mistrales of the sea, they again dance on the rake.
    11. irek
      +3
      9 September 2014 21: 08
      the engine must be ours
    12. +2
      9 September 2014 21: 19
      Mr. Medved a couple of years ago urged Russians to fly on falcons. Now his opinion has changed, but in my opinion it’s too late to remove the bear
      1. +1
        10 September 2014 00: 07
        Quote: Patriot.ru.
        Now his opinion has changed, but in my opinion it’s too late the bear remove

        Deeply he took root ...
        I will never forget Gaddafi’s scandals with Butsky.
        But, since they have not caught up yet, maybe a good performer is from him? From these, too, the benefits are evident, only it is impossible to let them close to the manifestation of initiative.
    13. +1
      9 September 2014 21: 29
      Quote: irek
      the engine must be ours

      This is necessary, especially when it comes to the country's defense. If something happens, then the West will announce sanctions, and we have German, French components ...
    14. +4
      9 September 2014 21: 30
      “As a power plant on the Yak-152 will be used a French diesel engine with a capacity of 400 liters. s., ”the source specified.

      No words, I want a screwdriver in my eye ...
    15. 0
      9 September 2014 21: 34
      Quote: figvam
      Diesel freezes in winter.

      We are the army (GSVG), in the winter the solarium was poured into the cooling system Kraz-255B. Everything worked perfectly. soldier
      1. 0
        9 September 2014 22: 04
        Quote: CheByrashka

        We are the army (GSVG), in the winter the solarium was poured into the cooling system Kraz-255B. Everything worked perfectly.

        Did the GSVG have problems with antifreeze? Or were they "pushed" to the Germans?
      2. +1
        9 September 2014 23: 16
        why won't it work? liquid circulates, I will eat heat! just in case of leakage or accident it is fire hazard if it gets on the exhaust manifold!
    16. The Art of War
      0
      9 September 2014 21: 42
      http://anti-maidan.com/?attempt=1
    17. +1
      9 September 2014 22: 00
      Enough to drive the people to diesel, who showed you the entire contract with the sub-items for these engines?
      Who said that there is no clause on the permissible start of production with us?
      Third - I think our topic of diesel engines in small aircraft is of interest, so it’s better to check it in the French and if the standards, then develop our own production.
      Or can only the Chinese copy technology and technology?
      1. +1
        10 September 2014 00: 13
        Quote: Anisim1977
        Or can only the Chinese copy technology and technology?

        The Chinese are copying, and we are copying! smile
        On the FIAT 124, too, the Italian engine ... was ... And it became the most that neither is Russian! good
    18. +1
      9 September 2014 22: 16
      The French will again stand in pose at the direction of the State Department, and the French engine. fool
    19. 0
      9 September 2014 22: 21
      Unfortunately piston engines are not our thing !!! :(
    20. +1
      9 September 2014 22: 54
      Want to fly!!!
      Where can I sign up?
      Who says no one is willing? Yes, there are millions of us! Another thing is that we do not have millions of Tugriks on this matter ... but I would like to go to heaven !!!
    21. 0
      9 September 2014 23: 11
      What are you fed up with the engine? A good French diesel on jet fuel, like all other planes in the school. Walks for a long time, eats little. There will be a question with replacement - there will be a replacement. Ride from the heart, like the engine, will establish production.
      Regarding Irkut. It's very good that they will be there. Such "birds" will not eat up a lot of resources during production, and high-tech production in neighboring workshops is very useful. And the plant is growing by leaps and bounds, so much is invested in it - even if it gives a return.
      1. 0
        10 September 2014 00: 59
        Regarding Irkut. Very well,

        The plant is cool! The flagship of the industry. Everything is great.
        It is bad that they are few. And the further - the less.
    22. +2
      9 September 2014 23: 32
      The diesel engine at the same power is heavier than the gasoline, but it is superior to the gasoline in terms of economy, because it has a different principle of mixture formation. It is also better suited for aircraft in the operating speed range, you can do without a gearbox and thereby compensate for excess weight. The diesel engine as such it is equal to what is used as kerosene fuel or diesel fuel. But the fuel injection pump plunger cannot work on kerosene, because kerosene does not have lubricating properties. Therefore, a kerosene pump requires a different design. Why is a foreign-made engine made in Europe for a long time the number of cars with a diesel engine, and in Russia there are almost none, we can’t do our own engines, suitable in weight and size. Which means we can’t talk about a domestic diesel engine, all technologies are developed on large series, and if released 10-15 pieces a year, a reliable motor can hardly be created.
    23. +2
      9 September 2014 23: 47
      Quote: Basarev
      But what if we do airplanes with a jet engine? Now he is the champion in efficiency among all engines, which will allow you to have ridiculously low power consumption while maintaining power and traction characteristics from the piston.

      I repeat, additional blowing of the planes creates lift! This provides a low stall speed, which is important during training and makes it possible to plan and control the operation during engine failure.
    24. +1
      10 September 2014 02: 37
      Quote: dizelniy
      Now we do not have the production of piston aircraft engines, we have to start with something, and the engine is good.

      And you need to start with the design bureau, and then continue with UMP, ZMZ, etc. By and large, there is no difference where to sharpen the piston group, if the engine is good, it is already good in the drawings, and even better on the test bench. Well, if not, no duck ...
    25. 0
      10 September 2014 03: 45
      In 2004, the Yak-152 was positioned as a replacement for the Yak-18 and Yak-52 trainers, with the "native" M-14 engine. It was assumed that the Arsenyev Aviation Association "Progress" would be engaged in the production of this machine. At the plant itself, the marketing service has even issued several types of brochures telling about the advantages of the Yak-152. However, there was no launch into the series - the calculations of economists showed that the car, in the volume of orders that was in those years, will not be able to reach the profitability point, and will be unprofitable for the plant. Although Yakovlev's design bureau had already sent the design bureau to the plant by that time. After Progress became part of the Russian Helicopters holding in 2008, the idea of ​​assembling the Yak-152 was finally bent. And now - Irkutsk ...
    26. +1
      10 September 2014 05: 28
      why a French diesel, it’s time to get on the rails of import substitution, but in general it’s weak for us to develop our diesel engine ...
    27. 0
      10 September 2014 05: 35
      One plane must be accidentally forgotten in China.
      And in a year to buy engines already from them.
      And then the French, even if sanctioned)))))))
    28. +2
      10 September 2014 06: 09
      Russia has its own aircraft engines with a capacity of 400 hp, it can eat a lot of fuel, it can be heavy, not even diesel, but OWN. Smacks of Seryukovschina again am
      Voronezh JSC "OKBM":
      http://okbm.ru/products.php?type=1.
    29. +1
      10 September 2014 08: 23
      Some kind of scanty and ugly this Yak with a French engine and an ejection seat, like the Rysachok with American theaters. There is no need to wait for anything else. The production and repair base of the aviation industry is in complete collapse, research institutes and design bureaus are completely filled with mediocrity, you cannot find qualified workers of basic specialties with fire, no one goes to vocational schools and they are no longer there, a number of enterprises were liquidated as a result of stupid privatization, new ones are not being built. The state defense order and the state defense industry in these conditions did not cope with the tasks and were liquidated. What's next?
      At the helm of the most important sectors are not specialists, but some political scientists, sociologists, economists, and journalists. God forbid, even a local war, in a week the army will be left without spare parts. Everywhere collapse and no end to this.
    30. 0
      10 September 2014 08: 55
      It is very necessary to develop such aviation (DOSAAF) A lot of young people will come, if you take my city of Novosibirsk, then we have a lot of young people with aviation, since we have fellow countryman A. Pokryshkin. And the Chekalovsk plant, then Su24 after repair, then Su34 cuts circles. And about the dreamer, this is a technical or political issue.
      PS There are such RED BALL extreme piloting competitions where everyone except US is playing and some pilots are performing on yak 54 (it has not been produced since 2002) it is very painful and disappointing that there was such a failure in the pilot training time!
    31. +1
      10 September 2014 10: 48
      In addition to jokes, domestic engine building in the section of piston gasoline engines was the best in the world, because we were the only ones to continue this topic after the war. Still, their initial price is minimal. + Service does not require special qualifications. Analogs are significantly more expensive. Why is it like this now? the owners did not understand the topic, they only had enough education to rent offices and warehouses.
      Unfortunately, the dominance of accountants and pseudo-economists of "economics" adherents continues. The typical top management of a plant that produces and develops something, represented by the Directorate (or a government official), sales and accounting, does not include the Chief Engineer and the technical component. Often they do not find understanding of proposals for replacing equipment, conducting R&D, modernization, training and sending engineers and scientific personnel. Everything from the fact that there is not enough education, and everything that is incomprehensible is ignored. There are no attempts to understand, tk. a moat of social inequality has been erected between the technical and financial staff, and this really prevents contact. Quite real perception of the technical leaders of the enterprise at the level of the head of the village community under serfdom on the part of the landowner. Conversation on equal terms does not work. Wherever you go, it's a standard problem.

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