Instead of army warehouses - production and logistics complexes

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By 2020, all army warehouses in the Russian Federation will be eliminated. They will be replaced by PLC - production and logistics complexes, the construction of which has already begun. Reports about it Rossiyskaya Gazeta With reference to the Deputy Minister of Defense Dmitry Bulgakov.

Instead of army warehouses - production and logistics complexes


According to the general, “the construction of complexes is under way to update the storage system of materiel and armaments”. He said that “more than 400 of the old warehouses will be eliminated, they will be replaced by 24 PLCs, which are planned to be built before the 2020 year. 78 billion rubles will be spent for these purposes, and the funds will be raised through public-private partnerships.

“This year we began the construction of three PLCs: in Naro-Fominsk (Moscow region), Armavir (Krasnodar region) and in Khabarovsk. Their construction is scheduled to be completed in 2015 year. ”- said Bulgakov.

According to the deputy minister, all the complexes will be equipped with automated systems for the storage and distribution of property. PLCs provide long-term storage, the height of hangar buildings from 17-ti to 24 m.

Help "WG": "PLCs are designed to store weapons, equipment, and various types of materiel, with the exception of missiles and ammunition. The property will be stored on them - from food and clothing uniforms to units and assemblies of armored and automotive vehicles. The complexes will be tied to the places of deployment of troops to reduce the time of delivery of all necessary to them. It is planned that each military district will have six PLCs on its territory. ”.
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    1. +16
      9 September 2014 18: 10
      And they will steal less ???
      1. portoc65
        +7
        9 September 2014 18: 12
        Such a buzzword ... logistic complex ... now theft, too, should be called something fashionable.
        1. Maksim...
          +18
          9 September 2014 18: 18
          "Unofficial transfer of property of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation to unidentified persons." bully
          1. +8
            9 September 2014 18: 24
            This is how much "Ratnikov" and means of communication could have been bought for this money!
            1. +9
              9 September 2014 18: 31
              I'm sorry praporov .. crying , lovers lose their beloved ....
              1. +5
                9 September 2014 18: 59
                Quote: severniy
                I'm sorry praporov .. crying , lovers lose their beloved ....

                "propor" was removed from the troops for several years.
              2. 0
                9 September 2014 20: 11
                If they do not begin to die out like mammoths.
                1. rhd
                  +2
                  9 September 2014 20: 28
                  Why die immediately? The ensign is a STATE OF SOUL ... !!! Such NEVER translate !!! Yes
            2. Maksim...
              +1
              9 September 2014 18: 31
              Well, definitely not more than can be produced. :)
            3. +2
              9 September 2014 19: 01
              Quote: Rostov
              This is how much "Ratnikov" and means of communication could have been bought for this money!

              Well, how many new billionaires will appear, thanks to the Ministry of Defense! Hooray! Hooray! Hooray! Life will be better, life will be more fun (billionaires)
            4. +5
              9 September 2014 19: 49
              And HOW MUCH THIS MONEY CAN BE HOME HOUSES, SCHOOLS, KINDERS, TO BUILD.
          2. +3
            9 September 2014 19: 21
            And what, in fact, prevented the re-equipping of the Moscow warehouses according to these principles?
            I can understand with a stretch the creation of such warehouses for uniforms and food, but I disagree with the rest. Again there is a link to the districts, and not to the real constellations in technology in this territory. But there are also units that are only located on the territory of this district, but which have nothing to do with it. Well, for example, Strategic Missile Forces, Long-Range Aviation. Separate units of units may be located in various districts. Well, what to do?
            Something like the notorious "Oboronservice". God grant that I am wrong.
        2. +4
          9 September 2014 18: 18
          all army depots in the Russian Federation will be liquidated. They will be replaced by PLC - production and logistics complexes

          Warrant officers -logists ...)))) Sounds! laughing
        3. +23
          9 September 2014 18: 20
          Theft is, of course, relevant.
          But in fact, it’s not such a big trouble, because one can cope with it, albeit with great blood.
          But who will explain to me why 24 PLCs are more reliable than 400 warehouses?
          If I were the aggressor, the PLCs would become the primary target for my missiles and aircraft ... and the enemy army would instantly be left without a material and technical base.
          1. Maksim...
            +4
            9 September 2014 18: 29
            But who will explain to me why 24 PLCs are more reliable than 400 warehouses?

            In my opinion, the fact is that it is easier to transport, control and issue materiel from 24 objects than from 400
            If I were the aggressor, the PLCs would become the primary target for my missiles and aircraft ... and the enemy army would instantly be left without a material and technical base.

            On the other hand, it is easier to protect several large warehouses than many small ones.
            But this is all my opinion.
            1. +5
              9 September 2014 18: 33
              Quote: Maxim ...
              In my opinion, the fact is that it is easier to transport, control and issue materiel from 24 objects than from 400


              In my opinion, it’s only easier to control, and then if we are talking about a limited number of controllers. Our state apparatus, like any sinecure, is bloated immensely simply, and for a couple of hundreds or even thousands of loafers, there is always a place.

              Quote: Maxim ...
              On the other hand, it is easier to protect several large warehouses than many small ones.
              But this is all my opinion.


              I agree, it’s easier to protect several objects.
              You can, following the example of Kolomoisky, dig ditches with crocodiles ...
              But this only works if the enemy wants to seize property.
              And if he does not have such a task? What the hell are you protecting from artillery, aviation and missiles? This is not a government anti-nuclear bunker.
              1. izy125
                0
                10 September 2014 09: 26
                if enemy artillery can reach these PLCs - then there will no longer be them. Actually, as with aviation. There are long-range missiles that are completely straying.
            2. Big den
              +1
              9 September 2014 19: 44
              Quote: Maxim ...
              On the other hand, it is easier to protect several large warehouses than many small ones.
              But this is all my opinion.

              it’s hard to disagree with this, but 24 even very large warehouses throughout the country are not even funny. Even without destruction by their adversary for how many days of a large-scale war they will be enough. The question is rhetorical recourse
              1. 0
                9 September 2014 23: 42
                As far as I understand, nobody canceled the huge underground and elevated warehouses of backup equipment, and these complexes are like regional warehouses of large trading networks (of course, an incorrect comparison, but the point is)
                With such a system, both the accounting and storage and issuance of goods and materials are much simpler and cheaper to do.
            3. +2
              10 September 2014 02: 18
              Protecting several large warehouses is easier ...

              The fact that the photograph is a logistic **. Hangars from corrugated board. It’s suitable for business - but for a war, one attack of a ground attack aircraft, or combat helicopters with NURSs - and all this logistics was covered ..!
              The first thing in the war is R A C S O S R E D T O T E N I E and hide under the ground or in concrete ... so that they do not cover everything at once with one blow! fool
              Oh, Mlyn! Generation Next came to the army ... It seems weep more. crying
              1. +2
                10 September 2014 05: 35
                I completely agree. Moreover, these new leaders obviously do not teach history, especially military. After all, as far as I remember before the war it was so, several large depots in which the Germans launched their first bombing attacks. And after the war, the country was not in vain divided into districts with its security and warehouses having different degrees of protection. They repaired the old ones better with this money and brought them up to modern standards. And they will build warehouses made of foil with insulation and get beautiful crap, absolutely unprotected, eh grabbing grief with miracle reformers. Progress on the career ladder in blat and related signs is bearing fruit ......
              2. Maksim...
                0
                10 September 2014 14: 44
                Where did you get that picture in it?
          2. +2
            9 September 2014 18: 45
            Quote: Dies Irae
            But who will explain to me why 24 PLCs are more reliable than 400 warehouses?
            If I were the aggressor, "PLC" would become the primary target for my missiles and aircraft ...

            So I have a question, 24 and 400 are too few, even less, combined under a single command, but dispersed in order to reduce the possible defeat by the enemy.
          3. +1
            9 September 2014 19: 04
            Mostly people who are unfamiliar with the concept of LOGISTICS write - they will not build warehouses but RCs (distribution centers) in the manner of RC network companies. What is the difference? Yes, maintenance of the RC requires 10 times less personnel, reception, loading, and shipment are as automated - computerized — loading at speeds increased several times, as many times more safety of the stored ones will be greater — benefit for all suppliers, custodians and army suppliers — no need to send their products across Russia — sent by rail or by road to the RC , the custodians will not be kept for years by the NDO — it came from the supplier — it took parts 2-3 days, well, and the units don’t have to wait for the promised months and send the cars with the soldiers — delivery of goods, such as supplies (not weapons and ammunition) from RCs, is more than sure ) will be carried out by mercenary trucks, which is much faster, more reliable in safety, etc.
            1. 0
              9 September 2014 23: 44
              Absolutely!
            2. 0
              10 September 2014 02: 22
              reception-loading-shipment as automated as possible-computerized-loading-speed increased by several times ...
              And about EMR and EW forgot ... ???
              The more complex the system, the lower its reliability. This is an axiom for war. fool
            3. 0
              10 September 2014 05: 47
              Do you even understand what an arms and ammunition depot is and why it is needed !? In the case of a database, not a single logistic service can handle it, because there will be no time to wait for the tiniest shells to deliver, and whether it will, because the transport branches are destroyed in the first place. And according to your koment, it’s immediately clear that you know only by hearsay about the army and providing the database .....
              Well, as the saying goes: if you are civilians so smart, then why do not go in formation? wink
          4. +2
            9 September 2014 19: 15
            Quote: Dies Irae
            Theft is, of course, relevant.
            But in fact, it’s not such a big trouble, because one can cope with it, albeit with great blood.
            But who will explain to me why 24 PLCs are more reliable than 400 warehouses?
            If I were the aggressor, the PLCs would become the primary target for my missiles and aircraft ... and the enemy army would instantly be left without a material and technical base.

            Probably after Serdyukov's reform of "cost optimization" all the remaining property of the army can fit into 24 warehouses. Therefore, Shoigu, as Serdyukov's successor, has already carried out "optimization of warehouses", and the extra 376 warehouses will be sold "at the residual value." Only business and nothing personal.
        4. avt
          +17
          9 September 2014 18: 26
          Quote: portoc65
          Such a buzzword ... logistic complex ... now theft, too, should be called something fashionable.

          Outsourcing through merchandising in the presence of organizers of the organizer of increased costing of the natural loss of the object of transparent monitoring in conditions of increased erosion of consciousness.
          1. portoc65
            +2
            9 September 2014 18: 43
            Damn bent ...
          2. -3
            9 September 2014 18: 44
            Quote: Dies Irae
            What the hell are you protecting from artillery, aviation and missiles?

            Artillery must first be reached, aviation and missiles must first fly. But first you need to know exactly where to get / fly. In addition, as I understand it, this is for the direct provision of troops in peacetime.
            In the event of a nuclear war, another, with the bombing of our territory, is impossible, everything is completely different. smile
            1. +3
              9 September 2014 18: 48
              Quote: i80186
              this is for the direct provision of troops in peacetime.

              Maybe we have an army only for peacetime?
              1. +1
                9 September 2014 18: 53
                Quote: Metlik

                Maybe we have an army only for peacetime?

                To supply the mobilized army these same PLCs are a drop in the bucket.
                1. +7
                  9 September 2014 18: 58
                  There was no nuclear war precisely because our grandfathers and fathers were preparing for it. If we think that war is impossible, it will happen.

                  Military depots should be located at the maximum distance from the border, preferably underground, or in the mountains. Put it away - take a closer look.
          3. 0
            10 September 2014 06: 00
            Quote: avt
            Outsourcing through merchandising in the presence of organizers of the organizer of increased costing of the natural loss of the object of transparent monitoring in conditions of increased erosion of consciousness.


            How much to drink to pronounce it lol drinks
        5. +1
          9 September 2014 19: 19
          ... the trickier the name, the more suspicion ...
        6. LLIpaM
          +1
          9 September 2014 19: 37
          So such a word already exists - corruption. Sounds uh, as if something from quantum mechanics ...
        7. 0
          10 September 2014 07: 16
          Yeah, if you stole randomly before - how and what happens, now everything will be structured according to plan wink
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      2. 0
        9 September 2014 18: 49
        They will always steal, and new complexes built using modern technologies will greatly simplify the control of material assets and the logistics of their movement.
      3. 0
        9 September 2014 18: 58
        And you can more precisely coordinate and quantitative composition and preferably immediately to the State Department.
    2. +6
      9 September 2014 18: 10
      But what about our ensigns ??? KILLERS !!!
      1. portoc65
        +2
        9 September 2014 18: 14
        Prapora will remain ... now they will be called Prapora logistics ...
        1. 0
          9 September 2014 21: 14
          Logical ensign, this is an oxymoron !!!
      2. +8
        9 September 2014 18: 15
        Quote: Buran
        But what about our ensigns ??? KILLERS !!!

        robotic warrant ... "Insert the bill into the bill acceptor ...")))
    3. +5
      9 September 2014 18: 16
      Doubtful undertaking. It seems to be an improvement, but the 24 PLC is a much rarer network. than 400 warehouses, so it may come out that the same spare parts will not arrive in 2-3 days, but in 2-3 weeks ...
      1. 0
        9 September 2014 18: 50
        And what when did spare parts come in 2-3 days? It is fantastic smile
        1. +1
          9 September 2014 19: 26
          Sometimes spare parts arrived even in 2-3 minutes, if in the neighborhood they were equipped and not needed by anyone ...
    4. +6
      9 September 2014 18: 16
      But imagine, if the enemy decides to "block / destroy" these PLCs, how will the army fight?
      440 old warehouses are harder to "lock" than 24 new PLCs.
      1. +4
        9 September 2014 18: 34
        Is it something like storage for safekeeping? ... some nonsense ... apparently they didn’t quite understand for what purposes ... perhaps nodal, distribution warehouses ... after all, the more warehouses, the more reliable ... and so, we will be very vulnerable (and this criminal negligence, to say the least) ... even one squirrel makes more ducks for the winter
      2. 0
        9 September 2014 20: 39
        Rashrenachat and all things. At least 440, at least 24. In any case, during the threatened period, everything from the warehouses rises and is taken out. What is good about new complexes is that you can take everything out of them much faster. Because it’s not manual drawers that have to be pulled, as in the old ones.
    5. 0
      9 September 2014 18: 17
      near such complexes there should be defense complexes against missile attacks.
    6. +2
      9 September 2014 18: 18
      And yet, by no means can they replace the camp, soldier’s kitchen ...
    7. +6
      9 September 2014 18: 25
      Then all the officers will be settled in one microdistrict, so that the enemy is not tormented by the choice of targets.
      Now the warehouses are enlarging .... Your affairs are wonderful ... the Ministry of Defense ...
      1. +1
        9 September 2014 19: 25
        Quote: tolancop
        Then all the officers will be settled in one microdistrict, so that the enemy is not tormented by the choice of targets.
        Now the warehouses are enlarging .... Your affairs are wonderful ... the Ministry of Defense ...

        It already looks like a STRATEGY! Serdyukov was still going to leave eight, but big ones instead of hundreds of airfields;
    8. +6
      9 September 2014 18: 27
      It is most likely that she was advised abroad that the consumption of missiles should be less, the economy should be economical.
      1. +1
        9 September 2014 18: 33
        Quote: A1L9E4K9S
        It is most likely that she was advised abroad that the consumption of missiles should be less, the economy should be economical.

        There are fewer missiles now. Solid profit, for the adversary and the budget derban during construction ...
    9. +6
      9 September 2014 18: 31
      He said that “more than 400 old warehouses will be liquidated, 24 PLCs will come to replace them

      Do not understand the whole country 24 PLC? Who invented this garbage, it is necessary to put to the wall.
      Serdyukov’s case lives on ...
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    11. +1
      9 September 2014 19: 00
      I don’t know what it will be, if only fewer children were undermined by the disposal of shells, by the detonation of ammunition in warehouses, etc.
      1. +1
        9 September 2014 19: 23
        We are talking about the storage of military equipment. The ammunition is stored in arsenals, which have been "intensively developed" since 2010.
    12. explorer
      0
      9 September 2014 19: 01
      And why rockets? hi
      add agents near the PLC and hit the weak spot at the right time. bully
    13. +5
      9 September 2014 19: 12
      and I'm also wondering how this "funds will be found through public-private partnership."
      And then how can they settle accounts with these "private partners", with tracks from tanks, or they will get their own "piece" of warehouse for their needs, or maybe they will manage the warehouses themselves. It will be merry when such an "office" grunts and, in addition, it turns out that the warehouses are empty.
      1. +1
        9 September 2014 19: 26
        Public-private partnership means the analogue of OJSC "Slavyanka"))))) Probably already included in the privatization plan.
        Taking into account the way things are going there, everything will be just "wonderful" and military property will be under supervision.
    14. +2
      9 September 2014 19: 22
      as I understand it, all this will be subordinate to the districts .. the district warehouses will be liquidated, and the warehouses in military units will remain .. all the same, the provision of parts is carried out according to the supply plan, not when someone needs something, but according to preliminary applications for a half year or quarter. .. nothing will change in principle, only they can automate it and they won’t attract personnel to work at the bases.
    15. +2
      9 September 2014 19: 25
      Mmmm, will they immediately draw a target on the roof during construction or will it be a separate option that is not included in these billions, so that it would be more convenient to launch cruise missiles and guided missiles on them?
      1. +3
        9 September 2014 19: 30
        Quote: IAlex
        Mmmm, will they immediately draw a target on the roof during construction or will it be a separate option that is not included in these billions, so that it would be more convenient to launch cruise missiles and guided missiles on them?

        It is said after all public-private partnership. The state will give money, partners will share it, and only then they will draw targets.
        1. 0
          9 September 2014 19: 55
          This is already an interstate-private partnership, they will give one money, the second will be built, and the third will be destroyed and no complaints whatsoever, though it looks like a group of lads for taxpayer loot ...
    16. poultopwar
      0
      9 September 2014 19: 34
      Another cut of budget money!
    17. +1
      9 September 2014 19: 35
      If this program will go along with the development of arsenals (2010-2104), then the warehouses will not be replaced soon with PLCs. With the development of arsenals in Spetsstroy, only in 2013-2014, about 12 billion out of 29 have already disappeared, how to plug such a hole? Funds for new PLCs are just right for this.
    18. +1
      9 September 2014 19: 59
      As long as ensign Zadov will serve in such warehouses, we will not end theft.
    19. 0
      9 September 2014 20: 06
      They will probably also steal.
    20. The Art of War
      0
      9 September 2014 20: 08
      winked Maybe then they will build new hangars for aviation and land equipment!
    21. special
      +2
      9 September 2014 20: 22
      Quote: B.T.W.
      And they will steal less ???

      Nooo ..... now the property will not reach the warehouses at all ... before they even stole it from the warehouses ... laughing
    22. Cap
      +1
      9 September 2014 21: 01
      I see 2 main reasons for this decision.
      1) Cut and rollback, as well as the sale of released structures and territories.
      2) Home Concentration of all army reserves in a small number of complexes known in advance to enemy intelligence to facilitate their destruction in case of war.
      Remember the 41st year and the warehouses located at the border ...
    23. +2
      9 September 2014 22: 25
      Re-equipment and improvement, perhaps the disposal of some warehouses - a useful job. And the liquidation, renaming and construction - it drank.
    24. +2
      10 September 2014 01: 28
      But it cannot happen that one is liquidated (stolen), and the other is not yet built? Beckons Serdyukovschiny.
    25. 0
      10 September 2014 02: 55
      is it so big and beautiful that it would be easier to point and hit ????
    26. 0
      10 September 2014 05: 36
      a play on words, nothing more, a warehouse or PLC, there is no difference, the goal is one - to store military goods and materials and communications ... bully
    27. +1
      10 September 2014 07: 37
      That is, the principles of separation and dispersal of stocks of materiel and ammunition are no longer relevant in the army?
    28. Camille_73
      0
      10 September 2014 07: 49
      Quote: Muxomor
      Mostly people who are unfamiliar with the concept of LOGISTICS write - they will not build warehouses but RCs (distribution centers) in the manner of RC network companies. What is the difference? Yes, maintenance of the RC requires 10 times less personnel, reception, loading, and shipment are as automated as possible -computerized-loading
      but it’s increased in speed at times, as will the safety of storage — the benefits for all suppliers, custodians and army suppliers do not need to be sent all over Russia — sent by rail or by road to the RC, the custodians don’t NDO will be stored for years, it came from the supplier — it took 2-3 days in parts, well, parts don’t have to wait for the promised months and send the cars with the soldiers — delivery of goods, such as supplies (not weapons and ammunition) from RCs, is more than sure wagon mercenaries, which is much faster, more reliable in safety, etc.


      Well, they write that 400 warehouses are being liquidated !!! and instead they will build new 24 !!!
    29. 0
      10 September 2014 09: 50
      I don’t understand why the production and logistics centers are called, what will they produce there?

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