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Expert: military alliance of Ukraine and the US is unlikely

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Washington is not particularly committed to deepening military cooperation with Kiev, says analyst and expert on the armed forces of Europe and the CIS Konrad Music, reports RIA News.

Expert: military alliance of Ukraine and the US is unlikely


Recently, an adviser to the Ukrainian president said that Kiev needed a military alliance with the United States not bound by NATO.

“Such a union is currently unlikely. In Washington, there is no inclination to deepen military cooperation with Ukraine, let alone provide Kiev with security guarantees. ”- said the American expert.

Nevertheless, he noted that "the United States will undoubtedly take a more active role in the modernization and reform of the Ukrainian army after the end of the conflict" in the eastern regions of Ukraine.

Earlier, Kiev canceled the non-aligned status of the country and headed for joining the North Atlantic Alliance. Yatsenyuk then stated that the goal of the government is “obtaining a special status between Ukraine and NATO”. But diplomats notified the Kiev authorities that the issue of Ukraine’s accession to NATO was not on the agenda.

The agency reminds that at the end of August the Ukrainian government introduced to the parliament a bill on the abolition of the non-aligned status of the country and the resumption of the course for NATO membership proclaimed by the third president of Ukraine Yushchenko (2005-2010). The leadership of the alliance itself has repeatedly stated that it cannot yet accept Ukraine into its ranks.
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  1. mig31
    mig31 9 September 2014 13: 04
    +8
    The snout did not go out for the chosen couple ...
    1. Telakh
      Telakh 9 September 2014 13: 06
      +5
      Well, why? Sometimes there are really not enough humane troops in NATE.
      And then a bunch of dill is cleaner than a neutron bomb - all living power remains, and material values ​​disappear.
      1. Момент
        Момент 9 September 2014 13: 17
        +3
        America does not want to be responsible for Kiev. As soon as they achieve their goal, they will immediately throw them.
        1. Drednout
          Drednout 9 September 2014 13: 29
          +4
          Quote: Moment
          America does not want to be responsible for Kiev. As soon as they achieve their goal, they will immediately throw them.

          As for Sarajevo, Tripoli, Baghdad ....
        2. WKS
          WKS 9 September 2014 13: 47
          0
          “Such an alliance is currently unlikely. In Washington, there is no tendency to deepen military cooperation with Ukraine, not to mention providing security guarantees to Kiev, ”the American expert said.

          In vain. Ukrainians would well divide the United States.
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        1. Imperialkolorad
          Imperialkolorad 9 September 2014 13: 47
          +1
          Quote: INVESTOR
          Song about our Nyasha

          We will invest the minuses for such a post to the fat troll.
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    2. USSR 1971
      USSR 1971 9 September 2014 13: 09
      +4
      What can be an alliance between a pedophile who has drunk another victim for subsequent action with some kind of foolishness and his stupid victim? "Otimeyut" in full and that's all. Although along the way they already "got it".
    3. MSA
      MSA 9 September 2014 13: 09
      +1
      But who now needs Ukraine in the form in which it is, only to its people, who have no choice. America and Europe, if only to eat it for what else resources are possible, etc.
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    5. Giant thought
      Giant thought 9 September 2014 13: 38
      +2
      Why is the USA an extra burden, they need the territory of Ukraine to install missiles, and Ukraine itself insofar as.
      1. mamont5
        mamont5 9 September 2014 14: 55
        +1
        Quote: Giant thought
        Why is the USA an extra burden, they need the territory of Ukraine to install missiles, and Ukraine itself insofar as.


        Well, why, they and "cannon fodder", specially prepared, will not interfere on the borders with Russia.
        1. asar
          asar 9 September 2014 15: 18
          0
          In general, it is understandable - dill gives "Meat" and territory for "Rocket bases"! Well, lovely! If the dill are ready to lay down their boozy little heads for the state, for the obam, you are welcome! !
    6. Imperialkolorad
      Imperialkolorad 9 September 2014 13: 45
      +2
      I agree. Shchazzzz Americans seriously get into the Augean stables called the armed forces of Ukraine.
    7. VICTOR-61
      VICTOR-61 9 September 2014 14: 00
      +2
      that’s why they only need Ukraine
    8. Cherdak
      Cherdak 9 September 2014 15: 20
      +1
      Quote: *
      In Washington there is no tendency to ...


      If the president has "moved" to dill, then what kind of associations are there? laughing
  2. DMB-88
    DMB-88 9 September 2014 13: 06
    +1
    If you consider that the parashka is essentially a litter of the west, then the alliance with mattresses is obvious !!!
    1. 222222
      222222 9 September 2014 13: 26
      +1
      DMB-88 (2) RU Today, 13:06 PM New
      If we consider that the parashka is essentially the bedding of the west, then the alliance with mattress mats is obvious !!! "
      ..U.S. Has national interests ..and alliances. and military groups in overseas theaters. and temporary and long-term friends and enemies - all from there .. That's it.
      .. "the Moor has done his job - the Moor can retire" ... (I translate - the chaos created in Ukraine on the advice of Bzezhinsky by America in its own interests and against Europe and Russia has done its dirty deed .. Europe in a pose .. Ukraine in .. . (I will not write ..) Russia as They did NOT expect answered outside the box ..... the Moor left as Ambassador to Moscow .. to do his job ..
      1. DMB-88
        DMB-88 9 September 2014 13: 43
        0
        Quote: 222222
        .U.S. Has national interests..and unions. and military groups in overseas theaters. and temporary and lasting friends and enemies - all from there
        All interests of the United States lie in the looting of natural and other resources of third countries to maintain well-being in their own country !!!
    2. sgazeev
      sgazeev 9 September 2014 15: 36
      0
      Quote: DMB-88
      If you consider that the parashka is essentially a litter of the west, then the alliance with mattresses is obvious !!!

      The monkey played with Oksanka and forgot.
  3. Alexandr 2
    Alexandr 2 9 September 2014 13: 07
    +1
    Ukraine is now subordinated to the United States.
  4. Alexander
    Alexander 9 September 2014 13: 09
    +3
    What kind of expert is this - deaf and dumb, and even blind! The United States has brewed everything, military advisers and other stars and stripes do not come out of Kiev, and the author says "a military alliance between Ukraine and the United States is unlikely." Although he is right, this is not an alliance but submission. Union is a matter of equal parties.
  5. MEHT
    MEHT 9 September 2014 13: 12
    +7
    The pig monkey is not a friend
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 9 September 2014 13: 12
    +2
    Immiscible liquids cannot be combined. How not to mix, they’ll split up anyway.
    Dill does not fit into Europe. Neither in the EU, nor in NATO, nor as an ally of mattress.
    By the way, with such an ally, there is no need for enemies.
  7. MSA
    MSA 9 September 2014 13: 13
    +3
    Quote: DMB-88
    If you consider that the parashka is essentially a litter of the west, then the alliance with mattresses is obvious !!!

    Parasha will not last long, the destroyed cities need to be restored, and the bucket, his retinue, and support groups in the form of Obama and the geyroppa have no money for this, and investing in an independent one was not part of their plans ...
  8. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 9 September 2014 13: 14
    +6
    Damn, well, where do they get such experts, I just want to say ...

    As for the military alliance between the United States and Ukraine, "The haberdasher and the cardinal are strength !!!"
  9. IOwTZ
    IOwTZ 9 September 2014 13: 14
    +1
    Quote: alexandr
    “The United States will undoubtedly take a more active role in modernizing and reforming the Ukrainian army after the conflict ends” in the eastern regions of Ukraine.


    Not understood?
    1. nik39reg
      nik39reg 9 September 2014 13: 28
      +1
      And what is not clear? smile I will ukrovoiny ride abrashki, naughty from M16, and called ukroraranger! laughing
  10. Evgen4ik
    Evgen4ik 9 September 2014 13: 14
    +1
    You have to understand that the USA just does not help. What can they take from Ukraine? There is no money, there is no Crimea ... only a pipe, which the South Stream completely depreciates.
  11. Vend
    Vend 9 September 2014 13: 15
    +2
    “The United States will undoubtedly take a more active role in modernizing and reforming the Ukrainian army after the conflict ends” in the eastern regions of Ukraine.

    It’s necessary to sell decommissioned weapons somewhere laughing
  12. Bronik
    Bronik 9 September 2014 13: 20
    +2
    Dill is a double "under-member" and the EU does not accept NATO either. To join such organizations, one must be at least a "member".
  13. annodomene
    annodomene 9 September 2014 13: 23
    +2
    "... The leadership of the alliance itself has repeatedly stated that it cannot yet accept Ukraine into its ranks ..."
    Why, let them take it. Will crumble faster. Money will go to the outskirts like a black hole laughing
    For the boys in the photo to the article - they would take off blue berets. They were invented as a symbol of the Airborne Forces of the USSR. Well, if they didn’t want to recognize themselves as legal successors of the USSR (with all debts, by the way), then they’re wearing a beret!
  14. portoc65
    portoc65 9 September 2014 13: 26
    +3
    Ukraine is an Austro-Hungarian project .. Even the state flag of Ukraine from the Austrians .. This project was created for the collapse of the Russian world ... Now the states just continue what they started .. As long as Russia will be like this and Ukraine .. We just need to squeeze out the zones of the Russian world - New Russia .. And to do what the Austrians and now the Yankees have been doing for a century ... wage a propaganda battle ...
  15. moremansf
    moremansf 9 September 2014 13: 33
    +3
    An analysis of the latest events in the world, where "American diplomacy" is so vehemently promoted, showed that the US leadership and public opinion of the country's citizens are clearly against the direct use of US military personnel to address NATO problematic issues ... For this purpose, the servicemen of other countries, Poland, are actively used. Georgia, etc. Ukraine is ready for any conditions, just to be closer to its American friends ... Neither Poroshenko, nor Kolomoisky, nor Avakov and others like them, their children in the form of "cannon fodder" will not be sent either to Afghanistan, or to Iraq or elsewhere - somewhere where it is planned to organize the dawn of democracy according to the American scenario ... Well, he correctly pointed out, dear Wend -
    "We must sell the decommissioned weapons somewhere" ... in connection with the above, for this role, Ukraine is better suited for this role, moreover, neighboring Russia, which will allow us to closely pull the US base to its borders, which ours so persistently sought " American partners "the last decade and not only ... Ukraine, glorified by internal political and national conflicts, with its collapsed economy, which in the near future will entail unemployment, creates an ideal basis for the formation of the so-called" rapid reaction forces ", i.e. cannon fodder for the US ambitions on the world stage !!!
  16. Name
    Name 9 September 2014 13: 34
    +3
    ... military union of Ukraine and the USA ...- bye-bye, they’ve completely screwed up in Kiev ... belay They imagined themselves to be more exceptional than "exceptional". laughing
  17. Alexashka
    Alexashka 9 September 2014 13: 35
    +1
    This begs a logical question for Ukraine: "For what purpose do you need such an alliance?" The question is not to the junta, everything is clear with it - America's passive homosexuals. A question for ordinary, albeit omaydanny ordinary Ukrainians. If there are any on the forum, please reply.
  18. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 9 September 2014 13: 35
    0
    Not that it is unlikely, but expelled in the bud. And other NATO countries also have proximity to Russia. America itself has long been a starving man, and will seek fatter partners.
  19. Starmos
    Starmos 9 September 2014 13: 38
    0
    “The United States will undoubtedly take a more active role in modernizing and reforming the Ukrainian army after the conflict ends” in the eastern regions of Ukraine.
    So - never!
    1. sgazeev
      sgazeev 9 September 2014 15: 57
      0
      Quote: Starmos
      “The United States will undoubtedly take a more active role in modernizing and reforming the Ukrainian army after the conflict ends” in the eastern regions of Ukraine.
      So - never!

      They are building a burial ground, they will build a site for scrap metal.
  20. Nina Zima
    Nina Zima 9 September 2014 13: 43
    +7
    Mind pendros not understand. Again our brothers were found ...
    "Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper wrote an open letter to US President Barack Obama. John Hickenlooper asks the president to influence the Kiev authorities in order to exclude Colorado from circulation in the media and the Internet.
    This word supporters of the Kiev regime call their opponents. According to the governor, it is necessary to instruct the SBU of Ukraine to withdraw this turnover from use. According to the governor, unforeseen problems arose with the people of Colorado.
    60% of the state’s population believes that their fellow countrymen are successfully fighting with some kind of junta in Africa, especially the state’s residents are pleased with reports of downed Soviet junta planes. 25% of the male population of the state came to recruitment centers with the goal of volunteering to support their fellow countrymen.
    The veteran organization of the state created 2 self-defense squads and the units are going to go to the South-East of the state to protect the residents of the state from the fascists of the junta led by the dictator Porosenko. "(C)
    1. portoc65
      portoc65 9 September 2014 13: 47
      +1
      I almost torn my stomach .. well, you can’t))))
      1. Kolovrat77
        Kolovrat77 9 September 2014 14: 01
        +1
        Oh, by the way, Porthos, you probably know Portuguese, but Portuguese and Spanish are both ours and Kh. Ohlyadsky. I was thinking about what to read and walked past the bookshelf with my eyes looking for names and ran into Sabatini about Captain Blood. I remember what I read as a child and that Peter Blood will have Don Pedro Sangre in Spanish, you know what I mean. There you tell your homies in Spain-Portugal what we call a bloody pet and for what.
        1. portoc65
          portoc65 9 September 2014 17: 00
          +1
          Old man, to be honest, apart from the foodball, nobody cares what is happening here .. we are all politic ... I’ve talked ... all ordinary Europeans love Russia and hate America. Don’t like politics here ... yawn start.
          1. Kolovrat77
            Kolovrat77 9 September 2014 17: 14
            +1
            Yes, I did not expect much, at least at the level of Russia-vodka-Putin, Ukraine-salo-Pedro Sangre.
            1. portoc65
              portoc65 9 September 2014 17: 26
              +1
              I went to a cafe not long ago. The landlord saw that he was not a Portuguese native, asked ukraniano ... I answered that I was neo-Russian .. he poured a glass of warm vodka .. Smirnovskaya ... barely drank ... warm vodka is something ... Our people are great everywhere ... it's a fact ... all over the world ...
              1. Kolovrat77
                Kolovrat77 9 September 2014 17: 36
                0
                Yes, it’s not warm, but there’s a recipe for a glass, then give it a blow next time and have a bite with your head, remember how. That he would be in shock. Russian traditions.
                1. Kolovrat77
                  Kolovrat77 9 September 2014 18: 25
                  0
                  I meant zanyuhai, since I didn’t drink vodka in my childhood, I took a glass into the mine and sniffed my head with a friend. Because we will find money for vodka, but not always for snacks. The law of the stone jungle. And then all of a sudden that I thought of cannibalism you still blame me.
    2. sgazeev
      sgazeev 9 September 2014 15: 59
      0
      Quote: Nina Zima
      Mind pendros not understand. Again our brothers were found ...
      "Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper wrote an open letter to US President Barack Obama. John Hickenlooper asks the president to influence the Kiev authorities in order to exclude Colorado from circulation in the media and the Internet.
      This word supporters of the Kiev regime call their opponents. According to the governor, it is necessary to instruct the SBU of Ukraine to withdraw this turnover from use. According to the governor, unforeseen problems arose with the people of Colorado.
      60% of the state’s population believes that their fellow countrymen are successfully fighting with some kind of junta in Africa, especially the state’s residents are pleased with reports of downed Soviet junta planes. 25% of the male population of the state came to recruitment centers with the goal of volunteering to support their fellow countrymen.
      The veteran organization of the state created 2 self-defense squads and the units are going to go to the South-East of the state to protect the residents of the state from the fascists of the junta led by the dictator Porosenko. "(C)

      Oh dogged people. laughing
  21. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 9 September 2014 13: 47
    +1
    The narrow-minded leaders of the current and previous presidents of Ukraine. After all, centuries-old history teaches us not to believe in the West, and even more so in the present, Orthodox and even the Slavs. No, bought it. Although why, not bought, but were and remained adherents of Western traditions, but not Ukrainians, but Jews, who are the leaders of dill. Jews will always and everywhere feel good. Only here in dill, the Jews were so closely related to the fascist Bandera that you no longer need to talk about some kind of Jewish Holocaust, because they themselves became fascists. And most importantly, from official Israel there is not even discontent about this. But in Russia, pasta, Shvonderovich, Lazarev and other Ovichs supported the Ukrop Kolomoisky, Firtash, Yulka-thief and Yaytsenyuk with various other Jews. Here it is Jewish international fascism in action.
  22. Bombardier
    Bombardier 9 September 2014 14: 02
    +1
    Good to know:

    Analysis of the situation in the units of the Armed Forces and punitive battalions.

    "The 72 Brigade has been reformed. From the remnants and recruiting formed 1 BTG, which is already on the front.

    25-I suffered losses and was partially surrounded (with parts of 24-th) in the area of ​​the border of the Russian Federation. Brigade for a long time in battles. Given the peculiarities of the formation of it from the most combat-ready in the APU. In addition to the surrounded parts, it actually has the opportunity to be on the front as part of the 1 BTG (subject to re-formation, replenishment of drugs and equipment).

    95-I brigade. It suffered heavy losses in the northern sector of the front. Capacity is high. But losses make themselves felt. The maximum that can be formed without reducing the combat capability is the 1 BTG. If they restore all the battalions (or two), this will drastically reduce their combat capability and saturation with armored vehicles, as well as drag out over time.

    80-I brigade. In the last battles suffered significant losses. First of all in the technique. I have a lot of questions about it. For the most part, it is located west of Lugansk, together with units of the 1-th tank and 30-th fettering the troops of the LC.

    79th brigade. Most affected team. Colossal losses in previous battles almost completely knocked out the officer and personnel of the unit. In fact, it needs to be formed anew. How long it will take is not yet clear. An even bigger problem for the unit is technique. BMD is no longer in the warehouses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. There are reports about the manning of the BTR 70/60 brigade. Moreover, the state of technology, according to the soldiers, is simply catastrophic. Hence, it is quite logical to form the Phoenix battalion on the basis of the remnants. Apparently this is the only thing that can quickly get to the front.
  23. Bombardier
    Bombardier 9 September 2014 14: 02
    -1
    Both special regiments of the Ministry of Internal Affairs 3 and 8 are deployed in brigades (1-I and 2-I are separate) of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Have a good training. But the problem is in the saturation of armored vehicles. In fact, excellent parts for the protection of cities and sweeps, but as a shock can not be used. Parts of one of the brigades are located in the Mariupol area.

    28-I brigade. On 17 August was in reserve. Since that time, the units that appeared on the front were completely defeated near Saur and in the area of ​​Ilovaysk, during the VSN counteroffensive. I think as an organized military force for several weeks it will not exist.

    The same goes for 1 BTG 92 Brigade. Crushed under Ilovaisk. For the rest of the battalions: there is a problem with equipment. It is possible to use in defense, but the shock capabilities are severely limited.

    51st brigade. As it was and remained the weakest link in the Armed Forces. The broken fighting spirit in May near Volnovakha is still making itself felt. It was the quick "withdrawal" (or rather the flight) of the 51st brigade units (along with the TO battalions) from the flanks that decided the outcome of the Ilovaisk battle in favor of the VSN. This allowed for some time to keep this part as a combat unit, but to what extent this part is combat-ready. Personally, I have big doubts.

    93rd brigade. In battles from the very first days (starting from Slavyansk). Probably this brigade can be called "lucky" for now. Participating in many battles for several months to preserve the backbone and combat capability ... Apart from the airmobile troops, not a single unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine succeeded. You should pay attention to this part and its command. Against the general background, an example of perseverance and professionalism. Although it was partially battered in recent battles, it remained as a combat-ready unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
  24. Bombardier
    Bombardier 9 September 2014 14: 03
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    30-I brigade. Parts of the brigade along with 80 and 1 were the backbone of the armed forces in the area of ​​the Lugansk airport and Lutugino (1 BTG). Fighting and leaving the encirclement cost the brigade great losses. Especially in technology. Honestly I can’t say which parts are assigned and which are not (I don’t have data), but it can be said with confidence that the brigade units will be used as a mobile reserve in the Luhansk area (together with 80 and 1). Plus, it is possible to form a new BTG on the basis of the previously divided two battalion groups. Moreover, the appearance on the front of the BTG is possible in the very near future (and perhaps already there).

    Units of the 24th brigade (2 battalions), defeated earlier, are hastily receiving replenishments with HP and equipment (as they showed themselves from the best side in the Southern Cauldron) and most likely will not be combined into one BTG, but will be deployed into two. True, there is a problem with the "obedience" of veterans. Given the large losses in HP and equipment in previous battles, the deployment of these units will be delayed for some time (at least several weeks). As a result of this, the combat effectiveness of the newly organized units should also be lower (there are very few veterans in them. Many died disabled or on the run).

    Finally, the 128th brigade. It suffered some losses in battles north of Luhansk, but still retains its combat effectiveness. Although there is information on the network about problems with the "fighting spirit". But let's not rush to conclusions yet.

    1st and 17th tank are used to strengthen other parts. They suffered losses, but so far they retain some fighting efficiency.
  25. Russ69
    Russ69 9 September 2014 14: 05
    +2
    09.09.14/13/44. XNUMX:XNUMX. Overview of the combat situation from the militia Prokhorov.

    “Well, everything is already in the know - Donetsk with a shudder survived another night of the truce.
    Dill got an answer - their summary in the morning.
    Quote: "The positions of Ukrainian units on the territory of the airport in Donetsk were fired at 4 times: 2 times from mortars and 2 times with the use of MLRS BM-21" Grad. " The Ukrainian Armed Forces positions near the settlement of Dokuchaevsk were fired from mortars. Also, the checkpoint of the Ukrainian troops near the settlement of Debaltseve was fired from mortars.

    About the partisans. Yesterday evening a group of scouts attacked the national guard checkpoint near the town of Volnovakha.
    Also, at Severodonetsk, one of the terrorists battled the area in search of partisans after a successful sortie of the latter. Panic started in the city, and Sergei Shakun (the occupying commandant of the city) had to make nonsense about the exercises (although it was not mentioned before, it was raining in the city, but they also shot from RPGs). In fact, in the Severonets direction, despite the difficulties, a very interesting loom is emerging. Near Happiness and Metalist Ukrainians are retreating (recognized by dill).
    By the way, more about the arithmetic of this war - for 1 one body of a dead militia they pass 40 dead dill.

    As for the news about the allegedly defeat near Zaporizhia by the partisans of the artillery column of the punishers of the Kiev junta, which left Zaporizhia on the night of September 7 and headed towards the besieged Mariupol. At the entrance to Rozovka, the convoy was attacked by Zaporizhzhya partisans, whose leader, known as “Nestor Ivanovich,” announced that the partisans acting under his command would not observe a ceasefire, the report on the results of the military operation said.
    Don't believe it. This is the "Makhno detachment" SBU-shnaya setup. All their "attacks" are invented, and the Russians of Zaporozhye, who are trying to contact them, are caught by Ukrainian counterintelligence officers. this week, two of these gullibles have already been shut down. The 26th is also armed with the Msta-S self-propelled guns and towed howitzers. MLRS is not their profile.

    Fresh meat.
    "The 14-th territorial defense battalion" Cherkasy "of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the end of last week was redeployed from the Odessa region east to the ATO zone.
    As a UNIAN correspondent reports, this was announced today at a press conference by the chairman of the Cherkasy Regional State Administration Yuriy Tkachenko. According to him, now there are questions about providing the Cherkasy battalion with trucks, heavy equipment and weapons. "

    And the continuation of the column - When instead of brains - fat.

    "An additional volunteer battalion will be created in the Zaporozhye region, which will receive heavy weapons.
    This was announced by the chairman of Zaporizhzhya Regional State Administration Valery Baranov. According to him, the corresponding order was signed by the Ministry of Defense, reports ZN.UA. The head of the battalion will be appointed Alexander Lobas.
    "This will be the first battalion to be armed with military equipment and tanks. Now we are preparing a place for the deployment of the battalion," Valery Baranov said. The fighters of this battalion will serve on new engineering structures in the region. In addition, Valery Baranov announced the creation of a separate headquarters to coordinate the actions of public activists. For the functioning of this body, three employees of the Regional State Administration were allocated, who will work on an ongoing basis. Also, premises and the necessary office equipment were provided for the work of the headquarters. "

    Here is one of two things - either these soldiers of the Tashkent front will squeeze armored vehicles from the front line for the rear area (which is a gut), or all the armament of this good-tank battalion will consist of office equipment handed over to the defeated Baranov. "
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 9 September 2014 14: 32
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      This very "Tashkent" battalion (and more than one) of the Zaporozhian Cossacks is successfully fighting and is recruiting in the Donbass. And we will see whether or not Baranov has been knocked down in the near future.
  26. Bombardier
    Bombardier 9 September 2014 14: 11
    -1
    At the Kharkov airport, 2 two Hercules military transport planes (USA) landed, unloaded 2 LAROM MLRS (Romania) and one Teruel-3 (Spain), as well as a large quantity of ammunition for them. This is stated in the message received from the militia. "Next, the MLRS on its own moved along the bypass road in the direction of Starobelsk," - it says


    A source in the headquarters of the militia said that in the Donetsk direction, Ukrainian security officials stepped up intelligence activities in the districts of Amvrosievka, Vodyany, Svetlodarsky.
  27. gunter_laux
    gunter_laux 9 September 2014 14: 23
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    Quote: nik39reg
    I will ukrovoiny ride abrashki, naughty from M16, and called ukroraranger!

    from M-16 to naughty wherever you go, but what to do with Abrams is a disaster! They can’t cope with our T-shkami, they’re alive with a b-kit, they throw the militias to the joy! laughing
    1. Belarus
      Belarus 9 September 2014 14: 48
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      It’s good if they throw and tick! But if you look at all this from the other side, you get the following:
      if the militia didn’t have heavy weapons, the conflict could end quickly,
      the quick conclusion of the conflict without the intervention of the Russian Federation there is unnecessary, therefore they will pull (from the Gestapo, of course)
      to arrange provocations such as shelling everything that dill don't like without the militia's heavy weapons will not work (example: statements about the alleged appearance of the militia "Point U" landed Boeing and immediately the militia were to blame at the beginning),
      Based on all that has been said, it seems to me and not only to me that there will probably be more provocations only.

      This is my personal reasoning, so please do not kick much repeat
  28. talnax7
    talnax7 9 September 2014 14: 33
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    Oh, such a raspberry ensign Petrenko broke Well, not the bastards, Amerokos
  29. Belarus
    Belarus 9 September 2014 14: 35
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    Yes, in fact, no alliance is essentially and unnecessary! The former Ukraine already collaborates informally with its headquarters in Washington as soon as it’s fashionable and here is an example: At the Kharkov airport, 2 two Hercules military transport planes (USA) landed, unloaded 2 LAROM MLRS (Romania) and one Teruel-3 (Spain), as well as a large quantity of ammunition for them. This is stated in the message received from the militia. "Next, the MLRS on its own moved along the bypass road in the direction of Starobelsk," - it says
    Although it is not directly from the United States (which would be very stupid), but actually from their pantry. So, officialdom is here in military relations and unnecessary at all.
    It’s just amazing how much you want to drag Russia into the war in the former Ukraine. Romanians and Spaniards are apparently dumb and don’t understand anything or they like when they are used!
    1. Pula
      Pula 9 September 2014 23: 26
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      This is compensation for sanctions on fruits and vegetables ... They are not stupid, they just love money ... hi
  30. mal83
    mal83 9 September 2014 14: 44
    +1
    Union of hedgehog and w --- s Europe needs such an ally for bedding.
  31. IAlex
    IAlex 9 September 2014 14: 56
    +1
    The metropolises of alliances with the colonies have never entered into, do not conclude and will not conclude, they can only pull and exploit the colony at their discretion. And nothing more.
  32. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 9 September 2014 15: 23
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    "The United States will undoubtedly take a more active role in modernizing and reforming the Ukrainian army after the conflict ends" in the eastern regions of Ukraine.

    pisi: Enchanting optimists live in the states. After the end of the "conflict", at best, a piece of Ukraine will remain in the extreme west of its former territory.
  33. muginov2015
    muginov2015 9 September 2014 16: 56
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    Well, what are you? Now you have made sure that the frame was needed only to put a bunch on the EU economy, to use you as a rub?
  34. Eltempo23rus
    Eltempo23rus 9 September 2014 20: 24
    +1
    Usually everything happens in reverse, and not as predicted by "experts".
  35. Pula
    Pula 9 September 2014 23: 34
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    Amers need Ukraine while Russia is not toppled, so why get your hands dirty when others are ready to do it. At the same time, no UNION is needed, it is enough to shout "Russians are coming", which is what the dill do. And they throw greens at them. And NATO doesn't give a damn about that, as long as the office is not closed. And under these cries of the "newly minted" allies to dissolve the euro. That they are happy to do. Nobody needs UNION with Ukraine, the word itself is too odious. bully
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  37. Cristall
    Cristall 10 September 2014 11: 47
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    experts divorced ...
    It would be better to describe how dangerous this is for the Russian Federation, and then there is enough sarcasm, but does it really matter where the Ukraine will be in Ukraine (by the way, non-aligned status has not been canceled - just a bill ... the alteration of the Constitution requires a lot ...)?
    It would seem that the Maidan is coming and everyone understands what it is fraught with (where Ukraine will be) and there was a statement - This is an internal affair of Ukraine .. It means anyway ...
    What has changed since then? After all, less than a year has passed.