Scotland: grandma said in two

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In recent days, three major sociological polls were summed up. According to the first, in Scotland the number of supporters of secession from Britain for the first time exceeded 50%. The second survey gave a ratio of 48 to 50. The results of the third "divided" the population of Scotland almost in half. The closer the voting day, the more heated passions in the United Kingdom ...



A referendum on independence, initiated by the Scottish National Party and its leader Alex Salmond, will be held on September 18. The Scots will answer the question: "Should Scotland become an independent country?"

How is broadcasting "BBC", according to a survey by the YouGov research company commissioned by the Sunday Times, the number of supporters of Scotland’s independence for the first time exceeded the number of opponents of the branch.

51% of the Scots surveyed were in favor of independence, and 49% were against. But only a month ago, the gap was 22 percentage points in favor of the supporters of the current union, the BBC notes.

Observers, whose opinion leads the television and radio company, believe that supporters of independence have been able to improve their positions thanks to an appeal to the youth. Young people were promised the constitutional recognition of the right to free higher education and employment. Something else was also promised: the lowering of the voting age from 18 to 16 years.

Vice Prime Minister of Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon, called the results of the poll “breakthrough,” writes BBC. “Independence is not a magic wand. But more and more people realize that the upcoming voting is an opportunity that falls once in a lifetime. Taking the fate of Scotland in the Scottish hands, we will live better. Our enormous wealth should work for the benefit of all who live here, ”said Nikola Sturgeon at a meeting with young people.

Opponents of independence warn: “divorce” from London threatens Edinburg with negative economic consequences, the channel reports "Euronews".

“I want a strong Scottish parliament, wide powers - even wider than today. But I want to join forces with the rest of the United Kingdom, ”ex-Prime Minister Gordon Brown (the Scot) expressed his opinion.

However, we should note that the economic consequences (starting with Scotland’s accession to the EU “anew”) have frightened the Scots even earlier, persuading them to preserve the union. These fears don't seem to stop supporters of independence.

Learning about the results of the poll, the head of News Corporation, Rupert Murdoch, said that he regards the will of voters as a serious threat to the reputation of the UK government. "Scottish independence is a huge bruise under the eye for the entire political establishment, especially for Cameron and Miliband," the media mogul quotes Twitter. "Independent newspaper".

Libby Brooks in the British newspaper "The Guardian" (source of translation - "InoSMI") spoke about the "blitzkrieg" (the term is given in jest), which began a campaign in support of the independence of Scotland. Supporters of independence "capture" supporters of the preservation of the union. This was announced by the head of “YouGov” (the company that conducted the survey) Peter Kellner.

According to Mr. Kellner, the speed of the potential loss of supporters of the campaign for the preservation of the union is impressive: “The fact that it is still too difficult to talk about the results, in itself, is quite remarkable, because quite recently the victory seemed to be in the pocket of Better Together ( "Better together"). For several months, supporters of the union were confidently leading, and on average their support was 58%. But over the past four weeks, alliance supporters have been losing support at an incredible pace. ”

The newspaper notes that the level of support for the independence of Scotland among voters aged up to 40 has increased from 39% to 60%, and among representatives of the working class - from 41% to 56%. Among women (traditionally they showed a lower level of support for independence than men), it grew from 33% to 47%. Mr. Kellner also noted that Alex Salmond managed to neutralize the topic of fear that surrounded the topic of independence, including its economic component.

The publication provides data from another survey, from 6 September, conducted by Panelbase on the request of supporters of the campaign for the independence of Scotland. His results showed that support for women's independence reached a record high. The survey showed that 47% women and 48% men voted for leaving the UK. True, Panelbase notes that the level of support for independence as a whole is 48%, and the level of support for the preservation of the union is 52%, with the exception of hesitant respondents.

Finally, September 9 website "RIA News" data from the third survey appeared: TNS led it.

According to the TNS poll, 38% of Scots would vote for Scotland’s independence, and 39% would vote against. A month ago, notes TNS, the number of supporters of the detachment of Scotland was less - 32% of respondents. "Against" was the 45% Scots.

“This poll shows a significant shift in the aspirations of voters. <...> It was held close to the vote, and now both sides will actively use the last days to do everything and try to convince the undecided electorate of the dignity of their campaigns, "said the head of TNS, Tom Costley.

Thus, it is obvious that the votes of the Scots in the referendum can be divided approximately in half. At the same time, it is clear that the closer the referendum is, the more independence supporters are in Scotland. It is also clear that the outcome of the vote will be decided by those whom sociologists today call "the undecided." It is for their votes in the last days before the voting that intense political struggle is underway, threatening London with a “blitzkrieg”.

If supporters of independence led by Salmond 18 September win, after a couple of years Scotland will gain complete independence. This, in turn, can serve as a spark from which a new bonfire of separatism in Europe will burn. Here you are both Spain and Belgium, and the remnants of Britain, and, in fact, the EU itself, the demise of which Nationalist Marine Le Pen has long predicted. By the way, German international journalist R. Herzinger predictsthat in 2017, Marin will be the president of France.

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  1. +21
    10 September 2014 09: 17
    How would Putin not be accused of supporting separatists in Scotland lol
    1. VICTOR-61
      +31
      10 September 2014 09: 26
      Here are the first helpers of Scotland
      1. +24
        10 September 2014 09: 32
        And here is another ... bully
        1. +15
          10 September 2014 09: 53
          The British - here's "Scottish gas" and "Scottish wool"))).
          1. +14
            10 September 2014 11: 58
            I don’t know how anyone ... The Scottish Branch ... Personally, it gives me great pleasure to watch this action. What emotions, how much pathos and passions ... I smile ironically and stock up on popcorn.
            1. +9
              10 September 2014 12: 40
              Quote: Karabanov
              . Branch of Scotland ..


              To me personally - "on the drum" branch of Scotland. If the Scots think that it will be better for them when seceding, the flag is in hand. But the separation of the Russian-speaking regions from the fascist Krajina worries. Scotland's divorce from Britain is taking place, as a whole, in a civilized manner, so it would be so in the former Ukraine. Yes
            2. +1
              10 September 2014 12: 58
              Quote: Karabanov
              I smile ironically and stock up on popcorn

              I support! I wonder which of them will come in handy:
            3. tripletrunk
              0
              11 September 2014 01: 04
              The trend, however!
              After the collapse of the USSR, the collapse of Yugoslavia, separatist sentiments intensified throughout the world:
              Canada, Belgium, Iraq, India (Muslim regions), Ceylon ... mentioned Scotland
        2. +2
          10 September 2014 10: 50
          Free-and-and-and-and-and-and-d-o-o-o-o-o-o-m !!!!!!
        3. The comment was deleted.
    2. amigo1969
      +5
      10 September 2014 10: 31
      Definitely Putin will be to blame !!!! SchA near Edinburgh will find a camp of Russian saboteurs on the T-90 !!! .....
      1. +3
        10 September 2014 10: 49
        and how are they "if yes"
        then they will divide the fleet and the army?
        1. +1
          10 September 2014 10: 58
          how are we with Ukraine
      2. rodevaan
        +2
        10 September 2014 13: 17
        Quote: amigo1969
        Definitely Putin will be to blame !!!! SchA near Edinburgh will find a camp of Russian saboteurs on the T-90 !!! .....


        - By the way! It would be very nice to create such a camp!
    3. +4
      10 September 2014 11: 47
      If they separate, I will definitely drink Scotch whiskey lol
      1. rodevaan
        +2
        10 September 2014 13: 18
        Quote: Letun
        If they separate, I will definitely drink Scotch whiskey lol


        - With pleasure I will support! This is for Ukraine and the USSR!
      2. self
        0
        11 September 2014 10: 31
        take me.
    4. +2
      10 September 2014 11: 59
      You were joking, but you’ve already read something like that. Type Russia provokes a parade of sovereignty in Europe. The cretinism of Europe ... the ditch knows no bounds.
    5. duke
      +3
      10 September 2014 12: 58
      insafufa "No matter how Putin is accused of supporting the separatists in Scotland" - YES JUST, for anything ...
      but interestingly, London so eagerly supports Potroshenko, and weakly declare the ATO themselves and bomb Edinburgh? In fact, the Scots are separatists, whatever one may say, and therefore, according to the logic of Cameron and Walzman, they are the same terrorists as the Donetsk residents and residents of Lugansk ... or is it possible for Edinburgh, but not for Donetsk? You already Mr. Cameron in an embrace with Pan Waltzman will decide who you, in kind, support, but somehow it doesn’t work out logically ... you look and it’s time to impose sanctions against London, or throw Kalom Moisky’s gang and Pedrilla Lyashko to Edinburgh, and Cho weak? hehe ...
      1. tripletrunk
        0
        11 September 2014 01: 00
        The Scots do not lie under Russia, unlike the Crimea and the Donbass !! ((
        Do you feel the difference ??? ((
    6. rodevaan
      +1
      10 September 2014 13: 16
      “Nothing, Great and Terrible, as well as part-time and Bloody,” I am sure it will help both in word and deed, if necessary. Someone should slowly begin to bury this gangster Anglo-Saxon breeding ground for colonialism?
      As for the people of Scotland - I am sure they will remember the glorious days of Bannockburn, the efforts of the national heroes Wallace and Bruce - after all, they just achieved what the Scots would have to responsibly approach to the joy of themselves and Russia.
      So guys - our common cause must be finished - SCOTLAND SHOULD BE INDEPENDENT, US S MUST BE DESTROYED !! And the foundation stone of this event is right now for the Scottish people!
  2. +3
    10 September 2014 09: 20
    In my opinion, there will be no independence, there will be a "one vote" advantage :-) in favor of the United Kingdom.
    1. VICTOR-61
      +12
      10 September 2014 09: 29
      Yes, Europe feels the hand of Moscow for the separation of Scotland
      1. +5
        10 September 2014 13: 17
        and provided evidence)
    2. +9
      10 September 2014 09: 53
      Quote: saag
      there will be a "one vote" advantage :-) in favor of the United Kingdom.

      Yes, me too.
      There is one hope: the oil fields of small Britain are mainly on the Scottish side. Estimated in 5 trillion dollars. Scotland is not picking up the astronomical amount that London is taking.
      I hope the supporters of the department will fully work out this argument
    3. self
      0
      11 September 2014 10: 32
      And all this is called democracy.
  3. +6
    10 September 2014 09: 25
    If supporters of independence, led by Salmond 18 September win, after a couple of years, Scotland will become fully independent. This, in turn, can serve as a spark, from which a new bonfire of separatism in Europe will light up. Here you have Spain, and Belgium, and the remnants of Britain, and, in fact, the EU itself
    I do not presume to judge how it is for us, good or bad, it will be enough that this non-traditional Britain will not be good
    Do not forget how they crap and crap!
  4. +7
    10 September 2014 09: 31
    I am tormented by one question.
    And what kind of sanctions will the EU come up with us in the company with the Americans, if Scotland is separated from England ???
  5. +8
    10 September 2014 09: 35
    Scotland is a country of separatists, according to the US scenario, England needs to declare ATO and further as in Hohland.
    1. +3
      10 September 2014 10: 05
      Could Captain Grant's dream of an independent Scotland come true. smile
      J. Verne "Children of Captain Grant"
    2. +1
      10 September 2014 11: 23
      I think you need to start right away with carpet bombing.
    3. Nina Zima
      +4
      10 September 2014 12: 08
      Amer blotter Cameron understood everything ...
    4. +2
      10 September 2014 12: 33
      So most likely it will be. Only by analogies with the Ukrainian crisis will Ireland be guilty here, since, after the declaration of Scotland’s independence, Northern Ireland will automatically go away. Zavarushka promises to be long and terrible.
  6. +11
    10 September 2014 09: 43
    Scottish Maidan ... laughing New Russian weapon "Referendum" Naglo-Saxons are furious ...
    1. 0
      10 September 2014 20: 08
      Well yes)))))
      Obama: Putin, we will apply sanctions against you!
      Putin: And we are a referendum.
  7. 0
    10 September 2014 09: 45
    as grandma Lisa says, so be it
    1. +2
      10 September 2014 16: 33
      Quote: seregatara1969
      as grandma Lisa says, so be it

      She has other concerns now, she reigns the slave trade
  8. +2
    10 September 2014 09: 46
    This, in turn, can serve as a spark, from which a new bonfire of separatism in Europe will light up...Why is separatism ... In Spain, for example, Spanish is the state language, but it is spoken in the regions of Castile and Leon .. In Andalusia, Catalonia, Galicia, Basque country, not even Spanish dialects, but their own .. Spain in theory, should be a federal state, but they hold on to a unitary one .. By the way, General Franco, rebelling against the Republic, first of all advocated the preservation of unitary Spain, and the Republicans were in favor of granting autonomy to various regions of Spain .. Belgium, according to the ethnic composition of the Franconian and Walloons .. and unites them, yet, religion, Catholicism .. But also stands on the verge of a split ..
  9. +3
    10 September 2014 09: 59
    Will they bomb?
    1. +2
      10 September 2014 11: 33
      Duc! And then! It is not for nothing that Brita is completing the second aircraft carrier in a hurry. :)
  10. +3
    10 September 2014 10: 02
    It would be necessary for the queen of Corvalol to throw a bottle, otherwise it’s not an hour ... Who knows - age, insanity ...
  11. +1
    10 September 2014 10: 10
    We also need to introduce sanctions against Russia, so that the Scots will suffer from retaliatory sanctions. And Britain will be left without Scotland. No one needs politics to the detriment of their own country. laughing
  12. +7
    10 September 2014 10: 11
    Opponents of independence warn: “divorce” from London threatens Edinburgh with negative economic consequences

    Scotland should be invited to the BRICS, for starters, as observers. Call the customs union. Do not abandon the same state that escaped from British slavery.
  13. +3
    10 September 2014 10: 19
    It would be very nice for us to have in our partners such a president of the fifth republic as Marine Le Pen.
  14. +1
    10 September 2014 10: 19
    By the way, the German international journalist R. Herzinger predicts that in 2017, Marine will be the president of France.
    I'd love to see it
  15. +2
    10 September 2014 10: 29
    It's a good idea ... But something similar happened in Quebec when voting for the independence of the province from the rest of Canada. What was going on there! The convicts were released to prevent the separation of the separatists !!! I must say that the Quebec people are French, they have always had separatist sentiments and are extremely zealous in defending their rights to language, customs and traditions ... There, even Pin.dos hot dogs are called "hot dogs", of course in French. And mind you - nobody is bombing Quebec! It is also true that the Canadian authorities spread rot on Quebecers at every opportunity, which negatively affects the economy of the province. But they are not discouraged and stubbornly live their lives. Of course, the Quebecans did not defend their independence - the dirty technologies of the Anglo-Saxons defeated patriotism and identity. I think that the same will happen to the Scots ...
  16. +2
    10 September 2014 11: 07
    Let everything settle down on the autonomy of Scotland!
    It's one thing to say, another vote specifically!
    Although in Palestine, at one time, no one believed in the success of Hezbollah’s elections, but _ And in the morning they woke up!
  17. Arzamas
    +1
    10 September 2014 11: 19
    Here are the real separatists and following the logic demonstrated by the "world community" in Ukraine, it is urgent to use air strikes on Glasgow and iron Edinburgh with "Grads", "Tornadoes", etc.
  18. +1
    10 September 2014 11: 40
    To impose sanctions on the UK, they infringe on the rights of people!)))
  19. +3
    10 September 2014 11: 42
    So I want to support the Scots. This proud, freedom-loving people is worthy of its independent and prosperous state. What a story, what a distinctiveness ... If I were not Russian (which I am proud of) - I would be a Scotsman ...
  20. Nina Zima
    +8
    10 September 2014 12: 03
    the guy on the right hand of the queen in the front row wants independence most of all. the queen is nervous looking at the photo under a magnifying glass ...
  21. +4
    10 September 2014 12: 06
    In windy weather, the Scottish troops look particularly sinister ... laughing
  22. secondoy
    +3
    10 September 2014 12: 19
    Quote: MIKHAN
    And here is another ... bully


    MacStrelkov? )))
  23. +2
    10 September 2014 12: 44
    McStrel mine more Scottish))
  24. +2
    10 September 2014 14: 23
    Cameron should deal with his problems, rather than yapping in our direction.
  25. secondoy
    0
    10 September 2014 15: 48
    Quote: reality
    McStrel mine more Scottish))

    Yes))
  26. 0
    10 September 2014 16: 00
    I look forward to the fact that the former Great Britain will turn on a non-alternative basis into the UK. (Although it has long been such, if it is separated from the USA, which it serves as a faithful Pug ...)
  27. 0
    10 September 2014 19: 20
    God forbid our calf and the wolf eat! it is so that Scotland would separate from England, the northern fox would creep up to the royal power, and off and on ... it might come to mind? ... fool In the sense: well, it’s impossible for the arrogant Saxons to get into the affairs of other states without demand! laughing
  28. 0
    10 September 2014 19: 31
    Scots, arm yourself with the principle "FREEDOM IS EXPENSIVE TO MONEY". And run, run. as quickly as possible from this crumbling world order. And there you look, you can paint a friendly game, on mutually beneficial terms. Only don't sign whiskey under sanction. wink
  29. +1
    10 September 2014 21: 15
    So where is the maidan in Scotland? Where to carry cookies?
  30. 0
    10 September 2014 22: 16
    Viva Scotland!
  31. 0
    10 September 2014 22: 22
    The article is annoying that the author puts the words of the prime minister and president into the feminine gender.
    1. 0
      11 September 2014 07: 22
      Quote: La-5
      The article is annoying that the author puts the words of the prime minister and president into the feminine gender.

      Or suggestive?
      wink
      1. 0
        12 September 2014 06: 13
        It suggests that the author does not know Russian well.
        1. 0
          12 September 2014 07: 38
          Quote: La-5
          It suggests that the author does not know Russian well.

          Here's how to look, the intonation in the text is very difficult to evaluate.
          I recalled _
          The general has a general's wife.

          I personally have associations, at least with this word-formation, at least with another, for some reason not the most positive.
          hi
  32. special
    0
    10 September 2014 23: 09
    Quote: EtickayaSila
    You were joking, but you’ve already read something like that. Type Russia provokes a parade of sovereignty in Europe. The cretinism of Europe ... the ditch knows no bounds.

    This is not cretinism, it is a wretched attempt to cover up its complete helplessness ... crying
  33. 0
    10 September 2014 23: 42
    Scotland will not separate. The British masters of falsifications, they will come up with that thread, in the calculations, etc.
  34. +1
    11 September 2014 07: 05
    They join the normal countries of Crimea, and not only the Crimea, but also Scotland flee from the rotting. good
  35. 0
    11 September 2014 10: 03
    I am personally interested in the foreign policy of independent Scotland. Will she be in NATO? And of course, relations with Russia.
  36. 0
    12 September 2014 22: 31
    If you separate, I will drink Scotland whiskey for them.