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Poroshenko's adviser: A third of the territory of Donbass will receive a special status

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Advisor to the Ukrainian President, Yuriy Lutsenko, stated that the protocol signed in Minsk does not provide for a special status for the Luhansk and Donetsk regions — only one-third of the territory of the region, which is controlled by the militia, will receive it.

Poroshenko's adviser: A third of the territory of Donbass will receive a special status


“Now there is a demarcation of the positions that the Ukrainian troops occupy and which the Ukrainian troops cannot occupy today. Thus, several districts of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions, which occupy a third of the total territory of the Ukrainian Donbass, will indeed have a special status, ”RIA says Lutsenko "News".

The adviser stressed that the "special zone" will be created as part of a coherent Ukraine and "temporarily out of control areas" of the Donbass are part of it.

"The frontier becomes ours, and we must isolate this special zone, take it under control, including engineering structures, and invite them to compete not only weapons - living standards, ”noted Lutsenko.

He also raised the issue of a possible aggravation of the situation in the east of Ukraine.

“I know that negotiations and preparations are underway at the General Staff, the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of the Interior to strengthen the southern flank. We need time to strengthen the army, including our borders along the entire perimeter of the Ukrainian border, ”Lutsenko said.

The protocol adopted following the negotiations of the trilateral Russia-Ukraine-OSCE contact group on resolving the crisis in Ukraine, among other things, imposes a truce and adopts a law on the special status of the Luhansk and Donetsk regions, as well as early elections. The authorities of the LC and the DPR clarified that their acceptance of this law does not mean that they have renounced independence.
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  1. afire
    afire 9 September 2014 09: 54
    +36
    Yeah, you might think the militias will ask you for their landlaughing
    Only for that number of victims, you need to strip nits to the borders and incinerate!
    1. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 9 September 2014 09: 56
      +24
      Councilor Poroshenko: A third of the territory of Donbass will receive special status


      But Plutenko-Lutsenko, again dreamed. This the remaining third of the Outskirts will receive a special status ...,if the militias allow.
      1. alex-s
        alex-s 9 September 2014 10: 01
        +7
        This is the remaining third of the Outskirts will receive a special status ... if the militias allow.

        How to remove the language! good
        1. WKS
          WKS 9 September 2014 10: 14
          +6
          Lutsenko complete political zero. Even the bugger Lyashko has a much higher rating. Why publish here the opinion of such an insignificant person? Moreover, the question raised will most likely be resolved on the battlefield.
          1. zzz
            zzz 9 September 2014 10: 23
            +2
            Quote: wks
            Lutsenko complete political zero. Even the bugger Lyashko has a much higher rating. Why publish here the opinion of such an insignificant person? Moreover, the question raised will most likely be resolved on the battlefield.

            It seems that Lutsenko is the mouthpiece of Tymoshenko. Therefore, it would not hurt to know their thoughts. Let them bleat.
            1. GDP
              GDP 9 September 2014 11: 48
              +5
              a third of the territory of Donbass, surrounded by troops, with blocked communications, economically strangled - This is a slow death for the DPR and LPR.
              Without Mariupol (a major port), the economy of Donetsk will not be able to fully function ...

              Although Russia is politically satisfied, it probably suits you, having such a disputed territory, neither the EU nor NATO shines formally, at least formally. In reality, of course, everything will be different ...

              But for the Russian-speaking part of Ukraine, this is the path to slow destruction as a people, cultural and political death ...
              1. sergey32
                sergey32 9 September 2014 12: 32
                0
                The junta seems to have decided to make the DPRK from New Russia.
          2. inkass_98
            inkass_98 9 September 2014 10: 26
            +1
            Quote: wks
            Why publish here the opinion of such an insignificant person?

            This is to make Piglet completely discredit. A well-deserved drunk of All Ruins made a sound in a puddle about the supply of precision weapons from five NATO countries, after which four countries sharply refused this honor, only staff members were silent. The same will be with this statement. A good adviser to Petya, by chance, a stool from under his feet will knock out well-intentioned.
      2. Tersky
        Tersky 9 September 2014 10: 04
        +5
        Quote: subbtin.725
        This remaining third of the Outskirts will receive a special status ...

        + good Yeah ... yes .... the nits .. wassat
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 9 September 2014 12: 58
          +2
          Quote: Tersky
          one third of the Outskirts will receive a special status ...



          Well, yes, it will receive the status of a nuclear waste repository, the arrangement of which has already begun. yes
      3. aleks 62
        aleks 62 9 September 2014 10: 48
        0
        ..... Why are you attacking Gugik ???? Yes, butonya won ... bully
    2. asar
      asar 9 September 2014 10: 23
      0
      Lutsenko has already "distinguished himself"! A good club in the head for a yurik!
    3. GSH-18
      GSH-18 9 September 2014 10: 26
      +2
      The adviser stressed that the "special zone" will be created as part of a coherent Ukraine and "temporarily out of control areas" of the Donbass are part of it.

      “The border is becoming ours, and we must isolate this special zone, take it under control, including with engineering structures, and offer them to compete not only with weapons - with the standard of living,” Lutsenko said.

      Khokhls think that they are the smartest, they will take Novorossia not by washing so much! laughing fool Based on what was said by this whip, we can conclude that the militia must very seriously prepare for the liberation of Mariupol, Odessa and other integral parts of New Russia. And for the future: No more truces until the complete victory of New Russia!
    4. Russ69
      Russ69 9 September 2014 10: 41
      +5
      Quote: afire
      Yeah, you might think you militias will ask for their land
      Only for that number of victims, you need to strip nits to the borders and incinerate!

      Do not forget about the Kremlin factor. And now it is profitable for him to freeze the conflict. GDP is only concerned with trying to find a compromise between the West, the interests of its oligarchy and part of the bureaucracy, which does not need a confrontation with the West, as it affects personal business. And the second side, by public opinion. Because the complete discharge of New Russia will affect the internal political situation. Therefore, the freezing of the conflict is now most beneficial to the Kremlin, and Parashka too, after the failure of the force option and internal economic problems. Hence there is no direct and intelligible policy for New Russia and Ukraine as a whole. Alas, the opinions of people in the games of politicians are always at the forefront.
      1. Sandov
        Sandov 9 September 2014 16: 58
        0
        Quote: Russ69
        Hence there is no direct and intelligible policy for New Russia and Ukraine as a whole. Alas, the opinions of people in the games of politicians are always at the forefront.

        Such a policy over time can bring major defeats, a sequence of actions is necessary.
    5. Giant thought
      Giant thought 9 September 2014 10: 59
      0
      Meli Emelya is your week, and keep your Wishlist, gentlemen of the junta, with you.
    6. Georg Shep
      Georg Shep 9 September 2014 11: 03
      +1
      In general, it was not worth signing this Minsk agreement, especially since the initiative was on the side of the forces of New Russia. And now everything has changed and not for the better.
    7. Sandov
      Sandov 9 September 2014 16: 54
      +1
      Quote: afire
      Yeah, you might think the militias will ask you for their landlaughing
      Only for that number of victims, you need to strip nits to the borders and incinerate!

      At least two republics within New Russia, within its current borders. Banderlog cleanse the brain, New Russia de facto exists. If they hadn’t killed her, the people would have remained as part of Ukraine, and now if you please, let go in peace.
  2. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 9 September 2014 09: 54
    +7
    Stop lying, we do not believe the lies of the Parashen militia themselves will take everything and will be independent New Russia
  3. Berrick
    Berrick 9 September 2014 09: 54
    +6
    "to invite them to compete not only with weapons - with the standard of living"
    Right now I’ll pay with emotion.
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    1. aleks 62
      aleks 62 9 September 2014 10: 53
      -2
      ..... Here dill in fact and will pay .... They do not want to ???? We will make !!!!! Let them then jump .... bully
  5. Evgen4ik
    Evgen4ik 9 September 2014 09: 55
    +8
    Ahahah, sincere ... His mother will receive a special status. In short. He said that Ukraine is ready to segregate the militia occupied by the militia. And I said that it was necessary to hold negotiations for a week later. Then all Donetsk and Lugansk regions would receive a special status.
    1. 78bor1973
      78bor1973 9 September 2014 10: 07
      +1
      Demarcation is a bilateral issue, I do not think that the leadership of New Russia will agree with this!
      1. ermolai
        ermolai 9 September 2014 10: 42
        0
        in fact, it turns out that there are negotiations and the rest of the rhetoric suggests that, as a fact, New Russia took place, and this is not a small achievement. and it warms, and dill hay crack autumn will come and cut dill or wither itself, and the United States should be destroyed
        1. Evgen4ik
          Evgen4ik 9 September 2014 10: 56
          +1
          In fact, time is on our side. It is necessary to establish life in Lugansk and Donetsk. And wait until they all freeze. They themselves will begin to ask for New Russia. But Mariupol had to be taken. Strategically very important city. All metal exports go through this port.
    2. VAF
      VAF 9 September 2014 13: 35
      0
      Quote: Evgen4ik
      . And I said that it was necessary to hold negotiations for a week later


      Some negotiations could have been conducted if ours had reached the border of the Dnieper River with Zaporozhye and Dnepropetrovsk on their own, well, in the south, somewhere close to Odessa.
      Then yes, everything else .. this is a week and .. well, I already wrote about this yesterday .. only 3 options soldier because LOST ALL-strategic INITIATIVE, the factor of VICTORY and TEMP !!! crying
  6. USSR 1971
    USSR 1971 9 September 2014 09: 55
    +4
    And let adviser Poroshenko receive the special status of a patient in a regional asylum. First, let him count how many people were killed by his cattle chief.
  7. Ober.K
    Ober.K 9 September 2014 09: 56
    +8
    And here you grated horseradish, smell it !!! angry Dreamers-punishers !!!
  8. Wolland
    Wolland 9 September 2014 09: 56
    +1
    Stop amusing yourself with empty thoughts, got a kick - forget about this land ...
  9. ded100
    ded100 9 September 2014 09: 56
    0
    Well, it means you need to take all the territories and powers, respectively, and leave a third for the rest of the year!
    1. 41 REGION
      41 REGION 9 September 2014 10: 31
      0
      Quote: ded100
      Well, it means you need to take all the territories and powers, respectively, and leave a third for the rest of the year!

      Why is there so much parashenka? request
  10. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 9 September 2014 09: 57
    +3
    I understand that the special status of a third of the territory of Donbass can be called the word GETTO? Or did I misunderstand this horned man with glasses?
    1. Underwood
      Underwood 9 September 2014 10: 37
      0
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      I understand that the special status of a third of the territory of Donbass can be called the word GETTO? Or did I misunderstand this horned man with glasses?

      not even a ghetto. Ironed hail half-Donbass, rasshrechatili all that is possible. The expectation is that a non-viable region will for a long time turn into a post-apocalyptic desert. And who will invest in recovery?
  11. mig31
    mig31 9 September 2014 09: 57
    +1
    Interestingly, yes, the junta fought against "separatists" and "terrorists", and what kind of status will they be assigned now! ??
  12. Bakht
    Bakht 9 September 2014 09: 58
    +5
    The truce weakens the position of the DNI and LC. The continuation will be a full-scale military operation in Kiev. But already taking into account the mistakes made. To date, the truce has resulted in the unblocking of Mariupol and the threat of encirclement of militia forces in the south.

    Another attack on Donetsk will soon follow with the goal of releasing the airport and taking it into operational surroundings.
    1. vtnsk
      vtnsk 9 September 2014 10: 24
      0
      "Was there a boy (truce)?" (FROM)
      Or I missed something, but when did the "release" of Mariupol take place? It seems that no one in the VSN diverted combat units from him? ... winked
      1. Bakht
        Bakht 9 September 2014 10: 27
        +1
        Quote: vtnsk

        http://militarymaps.info/

        The map more or less reflects reality. Therefore, the authorities of the DPR spoke so much about Telmanovo. Before the armistice, the DRGs of New Russia were in Zaporozhye and there was talk of a threat to Berdyansk. Now the situation has changed a lot.
  13. Victor-M
    Victor-M 9 September 2014 09: 59
    +2
    Poroshenko's adviser: A third of the territory of Donbass will receive a special status


    Not, rather, Ukraine will receive a special status as part of New Russia, namely, as a reserve for banderlogs, so that people who visit it will see, appreciate, be horrified and remember for life how to do it. laughing
  14. cosmos132
    cosmos132 9 September 2014 10: 01
    0
    Mariupol will lie in ruins. Donbass will be free!
    1. flSergius
      flSergius 9 September 2014 10: 22
      +3
      Novorosov still live there, and Mariupol voted for the DPR. Let Brussels lie in ruins.
  15. Bear in the north
    Bear in the north 9 September 2014 10: 01
    0
    The adviser emphasized that the "special zone" will be created as part of a holistic Ukraine ...
    This will be for you a SPECIAL zone, wait a little more.
  16. Mactep
    Mactep 9 September 2014 10: 01
    +2
    Soon the statements "Egegey, New Russia, the militia hurray forward!" statements such as "well e mayo", "how can it be", "the GDP has merged all" will begin. Commanders leave from behind-the-scenes political games, volunteers return. Unnecessary negotiations, unprofitable truces are underway.
  17. SADKO72
    SADKO72 9 September 2014 10: 01
    +2
    Do they want a new Gaza Strip?
    1. Leviton
      Leviton 9 September 2014 10: 20
      +2
      Quote: SADKO72
      Do they want a new Gaza Strip?

      No, they want a permanent object of tension on the border with Russia, and this is for them (or rather, for their puppeteers from the USA and the EU) the main thing about people there no one thinks is consumables
    2. Alexashka
      Alexashka 9 September 2014 10: 45
      +1
      It seems to be coming to that.
    3. Underwood
      Underwood 9 September 2014 12: 20
      0
      Quote: SADKO72
      Do they want a new Gaza Strip?

      ... with rockets from water pipes and underground passages ...
  18. tomket
    tomket 9 September 2014 10: 03
    +4
    In general, the wording after the Minsk talks is alarming. In my opinion, Putin still continues to believe in a unified non-aligned Ukraine. Therefore, these strange formulations and statements of the characters mentioned above arose. It is clear that Zakharchenko (the signer of the agreement) understands who orders the music, and who wishes to be considered. The question is, what will happen to Brain? As Strelkova will be asked to resign ???
    1. vtnsk
      vtnsk 9 September 2014 10: 20
      +1
      Oh, what Putin is for sure DOES NOT BELIEVE, so this is a "unified non-aligned Ukraine". And so-called. The "Minsk talks" were necessary only to demonstrate Russia's non-interference in the situation in Ukraine, and to try, at least temporarily, to suspend hostilities there on both sides. The definite result was obtained. We are waiting for the further continuation of the "Marlezon ballet" ... laughing
  19. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 9 September 2014 10: 04
    +1
    To leave even a small splinter - to destroy the body. There will be gas in New Russia, but hardly in the Outskirts. And who and at whose expense will restore the ruined?
  20. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery 9 September 2014 10: 05
    +1
    Advisor to the Ukrainian President, Yuriy Lutsenko, stated that the protocol signed in Minsk does not provide for a special status for the Luhansk and Donetsk regions — only one-third of the territory of the region, which is controlled by the militia, will receive it.

    He stated ... after the third glass.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 9 September 2014 10: 54
      +1
      Quote: surovts.valery
      will receive only a third of the territory of the region, which is controlled by the militia.


      The leadership of Novorossia certainly needs to negotiate on behalf of the territory in the BORDER of REGIONS and no less. On the part of Kiev inventors, various fantastic options will be offered. It may be possible to agree with some of them, but the territorial issue should be unshakable. soldier
  21. Carlos
    Carlos 9 September 2014 10: 08
    +3
    Winners draw borders. In Kiev only temporary workers.
  22. Ivar
    Ivar 9 September 2014 10: 08
    +2
    And what is interesting about this "special status"? Will it be possible to speak Russian at home and they won't get anything for it (if no one hears)?
  23. Prussian
    Prussian 9 September 2014 10: 09
    +1
    A united and federal Ukraine is possible only if the current project "Ukraine" collapses. Otherwise, it is inevitable collapse.
  24. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 9 September 2014 10: 09
    +4
    At the moment, I have the impression that a truce is beneficial only to Russia and Ukraine, and Novorossia in no way.
    Russia is trying to evade responsibility in the eyes of the world community and gain preferences for not applying the next sanctions against it, which will hurt precisely big business (the Oligarchs). Ukraine, on the other hand, received a respite and at any moment can launch an offensive in those places where it has concentrated large military fists.

    pisi: The leadership of Novorossiya, not waiting for the complete cleansing of their country from the invaders, "was led" to promises that cannot be the interests of their country. Imagine that Stalin would have stopped the Second World War and went to talk with Hitler when the Wehrmacht troops were stationed in Smolensk?
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 9 September 2014 10: 38
      +1
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      At the moment, I have the impression that a truce is beneficial only to Russia and Ukraine, and Novorossia in no way.

      No one has any doubt that the truce will be violated by Kiev. What resonance will this receive in the world? What then will the states and Europe look like with their sanctions and arms supplies to the junta? This is Putin’s victory. He drove them into a corner and now, no matter what they do, they will only get worse. Putin outplayed them in the information war, but victory on the battlefield is a matter of time. First thought - then action ...
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 9 September 2014 11: 01
        -1
        Supplement:
      2. Mama_Cholli
        Mama_Cholli 9 September 2014 16: 25
        0
        The Internet slows down the bastard ..)) do not copy

        Boris 55. I do not argue. that Putin did everything that was beneficial to Russia in this matter. Actually, this is what you confirm with your post.
        The question was something else. Look again. )))
        The leadership of the DPR and LDR went on about in Russia and did not develop success, as could be done.
        The truce is beneficial to the Ukrainians, because it gave them much needed time to regroup troops in dangerous areas. I will say even more ... They are now again ready to attack and kill children and women.
        Putin will not fight, the militia will have to fight. And Russia still only temporarily delayed the imposition of sanctions, because after someone has violated the truce. (From now on, please take a closer look at the thought) Russia will again be declared the culprit of all troubles, even if the Ukrainians first start.

        I can say that it will be so. So the game was not worth the candle.
    2. Underwood
      Underwood 9 September 2014 12: 22
      0
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      Imagine that Stalin would have stopped the Second World War and went to talk with Hitler when the Wehrmacht troops were stationed in Smolensk?

      and in the 42nd Kollontai in Sweden? ...
      1. Mama_Cholli
        Mama_Cholli 9 September 2014 16: 17
        0
        Was the war ended by a truce? I don’t seem to be up to date ...
        ..and where does Kolontay? Did Stalin meet A. Hitler?

        But Putin met with Poroshenko.
  25. Leonidych
    Leonidych 9 September 2014 10: 09
    +2
    from hopelessness are guarding
  26. Veteran of the Red Army
    Veteran of the Red Army 9 September 2014 10: 13
    +1
    In the protocol adopted as a result of negotiations tripartite contact group Russia-Ukraine- OSCE to resolve the crisis in Ukraine, among other things, it is proposed to establish a truce and adopt a law on the special status of Lugansk and Donetsk regions

    The authorities of the LPR and the DPR specifiedthat their consent to this law does not mean that they renounced independence.

    And what do the authorities of the LPR and DPR have to do with this protocol?
    The preamble of the protocol states that it is tripartite: Russia-Ukraine-OKE.
    Some individuals without an official status and no one representing anyone signed the protocol.

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/554/ircr183.jpg
    1. yegor_k
      yegor_k 9 September 2014 12: 20
      0
      And what kind of position is this: "The second president of Ukraine"?
  27. vtnsk
    vtnsk 9 September 2014 10: 14
    +1
    Yes, these "Minsk protocols" were all scored even before they were signed (by the way, were they signed at all?). And Novorossia will not "receive", but "take" herself as much "status" as she needs ... laughing
    PS It seems to me, or is Lutsenko firmly addicted to "coke"? And the eyes are so darting, and regularly carries delirium ... repeat
    1. Underwood
      Underwood 9 September 2014 12: 24
      0
      Quote: vtnsk
      And Novorossia will not "get", but "take" as much "status" as it needs ...

      do not overestimate HP
  28. Bassoon
    Bassoon 9 September 2014 10: 15
    +1
    He’s lying. You can not believe the dill.
  29. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery 9 September 2014 10: 17
    0
    Actually, this Lutsenko is weak on the tongue, this is not the first time "betrays the secrets of the junta." He blabbed about the supply of weapons to Ukraine by Europe, and now he gave out the true "Poroshenko's peace plan." And what, this option suits the junta and the States and Europe. For Russia, DPR and LPR, I think there is no acceptable option. Let's take a look.
  30. RUSOIVAN
    RUSOIVAN 9 September 2014 10: 17
    0
    Here's a deer: see that a third of Kiev does not receive such a status!
  31. maxiban
    maxiban 9 September 2014 10: 18
    0
    There is a clear drain of New Russia. In Minsk, some strange agreements have been reached, the details of which come to the surface after a while. Some special statuses and so on. Tell it to people who have lost everything.
  32. flSergius
    flSergius 9 September 2014 10: 19
    +1
    Counter proposal: if the junta is capitulating now, then the special status of Galicia as part of New Russia will be softened and those who do not have penalties will be released on passes to the rest of the country.

    PS: Lutsenko is like a loser teacher from a provincial university. You know, those who are under 40, and they are still laboratory assistants of some kind there, live with their mother, the last time they were given them about 5 years ago and as a result they have a watchman syndrome and FWM.
  33. doctor
    doctor 9 September 2014 10: 20
    +1
    Shut up schizophrenic. Go shoot yourself.
  34. Iskander 090
    Iskander 090 9 September 2014 10: 20
    +3
    The loss of mariupol for Donetsk is very serious. one cannot agree to this in any way
  35. Serge56
    Serge56 9 September 2014 10: 21
    +1
    Junta's dreams of two-thirds are like Lyashko's dreams of a phallus the size of a bus.
  36. BOB044
    BOB044 9 September 2014 10: 22
    +1
    It is painfully open they talk about it. I don’t like all this. I hope that they will not give up their position. But no trust is present.
  37. Alexashka
    Alexashka 9 September 2014 10: 24
    +2
    Do not believe the junta!
  38. azbukin77
    azbukin77 9 September 2014 10: 25
    0
    Here is an example of how Svidomo understand the ceasefire! Insanity! And the mug is so tricky! It’s necessary to drive into his head that the border of Novorossia extends far beyond the borders of the Kiev region, to see in a vocational school that was constantly graduating from history was two.
  39. Woolfy
    Woolfy 9 September 2014 10: 26
    0
    The militia cannot stop. Dill lie. It is clear that people need to be saved. The truce is a useful thing, but this is not the goal for Novorossi. If they want independence, they must squeeze dill. I am not bloodthirsty. I just think that the goals are not achieved
  40. aybulat
    aybulat 9 September 2014 10: 27
    0
    Is it time to deliver the junta ultimatum? Demand the removal of carriages from the territory of the Lugansk and Donetsk republics within the next few days and threaten to resume the cleansing of the republics from the Nazis if the requirements are not fulfilled.
  41. Bombardier
    Bombardier 9 September 2014 10: 27
    +1
    Every day "truce" the operational situation is changing not in favor of Novorossiya (my opinion). Another thing is whether the Donetsk army could continue the offensive with a break from supplies (supply of fuel, military equipment, food, and much more ..)? Retention of communications (roads), with so many military personnel ... ??? In the light of the above, perhaps, cauldrons could have formed into which the militia could have gotten? Why is this truce for New Russia ???

    Well, a little positive:
    Two Russian Su-24s and one reconnaissance An-26s made a shaving flight over the Canadian Navy Toronto, when he took part in the joint Ukrainian-American Sea Breeze 2014 exercises in the Black Sea.
    Russian aircraft flew over the Canadian warship Toronto during NATO exercises in the Black Sea.
    Canadian Defense Minister Rob Nicholson said the Canadian Toronto warship in the Black Sea was provoked by Russian aviation.
    Although the Russian military aviation, which made circular flights over the HMCS Toronto, did not pose any threat to the Canadian ship in any form, its actions were unreasonably provocative and created the risk of escalating tensions. "
    Toronto entered the Black Sea on September 6 to participate in the joint Ukrainian-American Sea Breeze 2014 exercises, which are held from September 8 to 10 in the northwestern part of the Black Sea. It is planned that in addition to Ukraine and the USA, Spain, Canada, Romania and Turkey will take part in the exercises. A total of 12 ships and support vessels will be involved, as well as aircraft and helicopters of the naval aviation of the Ukrainian Navy
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      1. Kulakov_Dmitry
        Kulakov_Dmitry 9 September 2014 10: 44
        0


        this was not so long ago
    3. 41 REGION
      41 REGION 9 September 2014 10: 51
      0
      Quote: Bombardier

      Toronto entered the Black Sea


      Nicholson let thanks say that while Toronto was released alive, he came to the Black Sea, be ready to dive and not to emerge
  42. Sergey Loskutov
    Sergey Loskutov 9 September 2014 10: 32
    0
    Good afternoon.
    The specified project practically can not be implemented. This is the first sentence
    in political bidding. The fact of recognition of the DPR and the LPR as subjects of negotiations is important.
    and subjects of international law.
    1. maxiban
      maxiban 9 September 2014 11: 23
      0
      Be prepared to be sold at a political auction.
  43. voveim
    voveim 9 September 2014 10: 40
    +1
    flSergius SU Today, 10:19 AM


    Lutsenko is like a loser teacher from a provincial university. You know, those who are under 40, and they are still laboratory assistants of some kind there, live with their mother, the last time they were given them about 5 years ago and as a result they have a watchman syndrome and FWM.

    I almost burst with laughter: I know one such thing, the characteristic is just one to one! To the author of this psychological portrait - Respect!
  44. pahom54
    pahom54 9 September 2014 10: 42
    0
    "... We need time to strengthen the army (Ukrainian, essno), including its borders along the entire perimeter of the Ukrainian border ", - said Lutsenko ..." ...

    So you need to do everything so that they do not have this time!
    There is no need to compromise with the junta, the militias have all the advantages now, the Ukrainian army has been exhausted, you should not give it a break and time to regroup !!!
  45. ussr1960
    ussr1960 9 September 2014 10: 44
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    Yes, let them rant about what they want, in front of them is waiting for Maidan 3, headed by Milady, surrounded by rows of a radical junta (read the Nazis). In dill, Maidan begins as scheduled in September - October, with the beginning of the hot phase in November. Not long to wait.
    "Let them pamper goodbye." fellow
  46. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 9 September 2014 10: 46
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    A "special zone" will be created as part of a holistic Ukraine, and the "temporarily uncontrolled areas" of Donbass are part of it.

    It’s like in that joke:
    “-Mykola I caught a bear.
    -So, drag him here.
    “But he doesn’t let me go.”
    wink
  47. argon
    argon 9 September 2014 10: 48
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    Lutsenko is a political loser. And Poroshenko keeps him near him "so that he does not embarrass the boss with his mind."
  48. biznaw
    biznaw 9 September 2014 10: 49
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    What is happening with an independent one, leads on the analogy with the civil war in the Russian Empire, a powerful army of Belykh with generals and admirals led by armed forces and supplied by the Entente against an army of hungry and slaves led by former lieutenants and ensigns were defeated. Then the personal ambitions of high-ranking generals and arrogant chieftains led to heavy defeats for the whites in the battles that they clearly had to defeat. Then the white rulers also made plans with the Entente on the fate of Russia. Now it’s also very similar, the generals are against majors and captains. And the Ukrainian rulers also make plans together with the State Department.
    By the way, about the danger of "ukrainstva" for Ukraine itself sounded at that time from the mouth of Hetman Skoropadsky, but the wisdom of the ancestors for Ukrainians is not a decree.
    Therefore, let yourself amuse yourself with dreams ... Not for a long time he prefers. 2-3 months.
  49. delorian
    delorian 9 September 2014 10: 49
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    the powder will not be allowed to maintain a truce, because while the war is on, all the mistakes can be attributed to it
  50. Rigla
    Rigla 9 September 2014 10: 55
    +1
    Let me summarize, with your permission, friends: nah .. such a "truce" !!! am
    1. Black
      Black 9 September 2014 13: 05
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      Quote: Rigla
      Let me summarize, with your permission, friends: nah .. such a "truce" !!!


      Well, so hard then !!! so in a tube and ... in dopa!
      Mariupol should be Novorossiysk, like Slavyansk, however, like Dnepropetrovsk and Odessa!