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The Russian Defense Ministry announced a preliminary version of the causes of the collapse of the MiG-31 in the Krasnodar Territory

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In the Krasnodar Territory (in 25 km from Armavir) an Air Force MiG-31 interceptor fighter crashed an accident this morning. An official representative of the Ministry of Defense, Igor Konashenkov, said that both pilots were still alive, and no one was injured on the ground. Ejected pilots by helicopter already delivered to the airfield. Reports about it RIA News.

The Russian Defense Ministry announced a preliminary version of the causes of the collapse of the MiG-31 in the Krasnodar Territory


A few hours after the accident, the Ministry of Defense released preliminary information about the possible causes of the crash of the MiG-31. It is said that the cause of the accident, most likely, was the right landing gear that was not released during landing. The pilots tried to save the car, but after developing a reserve of fuel, they received an order to drive the car to a safe place and eject. Reports about it Interfax.

According to the latest information, the aircraft is completely destroyed and cannot be restored.

The previous serious incident with the MiG-31 occurred in December last year. Recall, then, as a result of the failure of one of the engines, the fighter-interceptor crashed near Vladivostok. Fortunately, then, too, there were no casualties.

For reference: the MiG-31 aircraft began to be operated in the USSR Air Force in 1981 year. The last aircraft of this series was released in 1994 year. The main operator of MiG-31 fighter-interceptor besides Russia is Kazakhstan.
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  1. skylare
    skylare 4 September 2014 12: 48
    +30
    Well, the main thing is that everyone is alive and well. And iron is God with him, they will do new things.
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 4 September 2014 12: 54
      +8
      Quote: skylare
      Well, the main thing is that everyone is alive and well. And iron is God with him, they will do new things.

      yes same opinion
      1. VAF
        VAF 4 September 2014 16: 38
        +2
        Quote: andrei332809
        same opinion


        The right opinion drinks but .. only the day before yesterday there was a "hurray-article" about reducing the accident rate in the RF Air Force "more. than three times" ..... I said the same .. such articles cannot be broadcast with such a "pomp" ... pilots superstitious people! soldier
        1. VAF
          VAF 4 September 2014 17: 20
          0
          Quote: vaf
          but .. only the day before yesterday there was a "hurray-article" about reducing the accident rate in the RF Air Force "more. than three times" ..... I said the same .. such articles cannot be broadcast with such a "pomp" ... pilots superstitious people!


          Do you already know everything about Gelendzhik? Accident at the Air Show. Mi-8th ... two dead crying
          Eternal memory and condolences to relatives and friends! soldier
    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 4 September 2014 13: 08
      +2
      That this is a depreciation of equipment or poor service, the commission will determine.
      1. VAF
        VAF 4 September 2014 16: 42
        +1
        Quote: Thought Giant
        depreciation of equipment or poor service, the commission will determine.


        I agree, only in the article ... "did not come out during landing"? Didn't come out on release .. it's understandable, but how did it not come out? In general, or just didn't lock it?
        And why not "overload"?
        I had this a couple of times .. helped .. went out and got up .. how cute soldier
    3. Rostov
      Rostov 4 September 2014 13: 23
      +3
      To the noise of airplanes from the Armavir Higher Military Aviation Red Banner School of Aviation AVVAUL (AVVAKUL) named after the Chief Marshal of Aviation P.S. Kutakhova, my childhood has passed. Now, as far as I know, this school is no longer there, the aviation regiment is in place of the school.
      1. mpa945
        mpa945 4 September 2014 13: 47
        +2
        So there!
        And for my sho sibling s / n receive?
        Do not confuse people.
        It's just that the school was united in accordance with the Serdyukov reform. Now called Krasnodar. But in Krasnodar there is neither a military nor a training airfield. Therefore, the signboard has simply changed. And yes, "extra" devices appeared.
        1. VAF
          VAF 4 September 2014 15: 58
          +3
          Quote: mpa945
          But in Krasnodar there is neither a military nor training airfield.


          And where did Central suddenly go? ... "Evaporated" wassat ?



          461 SHAP .. without "getting out" flies from the Central soldier



          And the planes at 275 ARZ arrive ... "on foot" wassat

    4. smershxnumx
      smershxnumx 4 September 2014 13: 56
      +1
      That they are alive and healthy - good! If only they didn’t deduct from the salary ...
      1. severniy
        severniy 4 September 2014 14: 30
        +5
        They should not be deducted if the crew is not on a self-financing account and Mig is not privatized and is not taken on a mortgage ... laughing
    5. Army1
      Army1 4 September 2014 14: 26
      +1
      Armavir airfield literally came to life. Recruitment at the school will be flying low since September, so fast, it rings in your ears, one by one.
      By the way, in winter they clear the runway engines.
      1. VAF
        VAF 4 September 2014 16: 56
        +3
        Quote: Army1
        By the way, in winter they clear the runway engines.


        At the airfields of the ATBaza or ABatalionATO air forces, all their lives, the lanes and taxiing were "warmed" and "blew" only with engines and "tepuhams" and "satellites", the engines, as a rule, were from Il-28s, but there were also from MiG-15 and further wink

        Here is an example of one of the .. "types"

      2. TsUS-Air Force
        TsUS-Air Force 4 September 2014 18: 42
        +1
        back in 1988, the little light magazine, Artyom Borovik wrote how runway was cleaned in Afghanistan by airplane engines on cars
      3. Rostov
        Rostov 5 September 2014 02: 04
        0
        Quote: Army1
        Admission to the school will be from September

        Greetings fellow countryman! Wow, so still did not close the school in Armavir? Happy!
  2. Bronik
    Bronik 4 September 2014 12: 50
    +9
    The technology, of course, is a pity, but most importantly the pilots are alive.
  3. special
    special 4 September 2014 13: 00
    +5
    The main thing is that people are alive! soldier
  4. figwam
    figwam 4 September 2014 13: 05
    +2
    It was necessary to plant on the belly
    1. typhoon7
      typhoon7 4 September 2014 13: 10
      +2
      Probably it is not so simple and not safe, after all, it is not a Su-27 or a MiG-29. The main thing is the pilots are alive.
    2. Zlodeey
      Zlodeey 4 September 2014 13: 18
      +4
      You can’t risk the lives of pilots.
      1. Cenij150814
        Cenij150814 4 September 2014 15: 00
        +2
        It’s risky, I’m not an expert, but I think the MiG-31 has too much landing speed, that is, like a stone, however the specifics recourse
    3. qQQQ
      qQQQ 4 September 2014 16: 33
      +2
      Quote: figvam
      It was necessary to plant on the belly

      The life of a pilot is many times more expensive than any iron. Salvation of technology at the cost of life leads to unjustified death of the best people. According to the recollections of the German ace Hartman, his task was only to fly over the front line, and there he jumped from a parachute more than once. They will make iron, but life will never return; for the sake of completeness, here you can add the years spent on training.
    4. VAF
      VAF 4 September 2014 17: 32
      +2
      Quote: figvam
      It was necessary to plant on the belly


      On this type, it's ... a way to the grave. And so the speed on the glide path is under 400, and without a chassis you need 430-450.t.k. the flaps will be only 23 grams, plus maybe there will be no brake flaps ... and ... how do you imagine at this speed and with such an angle of attack on landing to plop this type of aircraft onto the belly? belay

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  5. K-50
    K-50 4 September 2014 13: 08
    +6
    Oh, sorry for the airplane. And so we have few of them, and even any problems with them and disasters, but in fact they will soon be needed in large quantities. A thousand times sorry, one pleases - the pilots are safe.
  6. 1-Patriot
    1-Patriot 4 September 2014 13: 09
    -5
    They seem to have "Skis", in case the landing gear does not come out!
    1. severniy
      severniy 4 September 2014 14: 32
      +3
      Quote: 1-Patriot
      They seem to have "Skis", in case the landing gear does not come out!

      xs, xs, like skates used to be ... laughing
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 4 September 2014 15: 28
      +4
      Quote: 1-Patriot
      They should have "Skis"

      Not to be confused with Spiral. Yes, and the weight and landing speed are great - it will be erased from ear to ear! Then, when fuel is depleted in the tanks, fuel vapors, and this is an explosive mixture, immediately explodes when a spark hits, and does not burn, as with full tanks.
      The joke is almost a topic.
      A man complains to a friend: "The cat has tortured me completely. He shits anywhere, and then scatters and wipes his ass on the carpet.
      - And you instead of a bed track sandpaper ...
      A friend did just that.
      After a while they meet, and the first one asks a friend: - Well, like a cat, no longer crap?
      “No,” the friend replies, “not crap.” I did as you advised. Kotyara spoiled, ran up and ... In short, only ears reached the end of the track!
      This is the issue of landing on the belly of a heavy car. hi
  7. abc_02
    abc_02 4 September 2014 13: 11
    +5
    And GDP as always in its repertoire: sanctions, not sanctions, I am for peace and tranquility!

    Vladimir Putin proposed sending repair crews to restore Donbass

    It is necessary to open humanitarian corridors in the Donbass and send repair crews there to restore infrastructure, said Russian President Vladimir Putin. It is reported by RIA Novosti.
    1. nik6006
      nik6006 4 September 2014 13: 30
      +3
      Yes, there must be brigades, certainly, very necessary. And how do you like? It is necessary to help, it is necessary to build. And every saved life is worth it, thank God that the GDP does just that, for peace, for Russians. We will push everything back with a quiet glanders, the main thing is that there is no war. If troops were brought in, far more people would die, and our sons would shoot at the Russians and die there, and this is unacceptable. All is correct.
    2. Not served
      Not served 4 September 2014 13: 30
      +1
      Haha ... Not in the sense that you don’t need to restore, but in the fact that they themselves can restore everything if they are given materials and equipment.
      Although the teams are also different ...
      1. djtyysq
        djtyysq 4 September 2014 13: 48
        +2
        Quote: Not served
        Haha ... Not in the sense that you don’t need to restore, but in the fact that they themselves can restore everything if they are given materials and equipment.
        Although the teams are also different ...


        Of course, they can restore themselves, but winter is ahead and time is running out. therefore, our builders are needed there.
      2. mpa945
        mpa945 4 September 2014 13: 49
        +1
        if they are given materials and equipment.
        Although the teams are also different ...

        That's it!
      3. qQQQ
        qQQQ 4 September 2014 16: 36
        0
        Quote: Didn't serve
        What for ...

        I think that it’s still better for our teams to master the money there in Ukraine masters will be worse than ours.
  8. pahom54
    pahom54 4 September 2014 13: 18
    +3
    There is nothing to be surprised at - just how old these aircraft are ... Another confirmation of the urgent need to update the aircraft fleet, and, most importantly, to revive all overclocked aviation technical schools and return to them teaching at the Soviet (!!!) level, and not at the level of "operation manager" ...
    1. typhoon7
      typhoon7 4 September 2014 13: 37
      +2
      These machines still have to fly and fly, for fifteen years they can easily still serve, like the Su-24, the main service. The American F-15s and F-16s are older than the MiG-31s, but the gunpowder they have is even higher than the roof in the powder flasks.
      1. I doubt it
        I doubt it 4 September 2014 14: 36
        +4
        This is what Rogozin thinks. And voices that ten years, fifteen more ...
        All this is not from a good life. And the proposal to resume the release of the Mig-31, too. This means nothing but everything is bad in our Air Force and even worse in industry. Some triumphant reports on the topic, so they say they went into service again 2, yes, yes, as many as TWO new Su-30s !!!! And all the forum users pick up: well, all, hold on to the Americans!
        It’s dust in the eyes, not rearmament.
        In the Air Force and Navy, 80 percent is utter rubbish. Which must be written off, not repaired. And in this accident, nothing surprising.
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 4 September 2014 15: 14
        +2
        Quote: typhoon7
        These machines still have to fly and fly ... American F-15 and F-16 are older than the MiG-31,

        Guys who are in the subject. Please give the number of failures for running hours (the number of flight hours) and flight accidents. If possible by comparison. Himself, alas, there is no time to do this.
        And everything else is from the evil one, if there is no such data.
        Sincerely.
        1. Zlodeey
          Zlodeey 4 September 2014 17: 33
          +1
          Yes, these data will not give an accurate indicator, since the 90s affected everything in our country not for the better, which cannot be said about our competitors.
  9. abc_02
    abc_02 4 September 2014 13: 21
    +6
    Crimea is quietly and systematically strengthened by combat-ready units:
    A new battalion of the mountain coast guard of the Black Sea Fleet will be formed for service in Crimea by November

    The formation of the mountain coast guard of the Black Sea Fleet began at the Tarskoye training ground in North Ossetia. It will end before November, the press service of the Southern Military District said today.

    “At the end of the formation, the battalion will go to the Republic of Crimea and replenish the formation of the coast guard brigade of the Black Sea Fleet,” the district specified.

    Now the battalion is undergoing combat coordination, which will end with exercises at the end of October. At the end of September, the battalion will have training at a training center for intelligence units at the Darial training ground.

    “In the course of ten days of mountain training, military personnel will improve skills in overcoming rocky sections of terrain of various steepness and complexity using the climbing system, ice axes, jumars, carbines and ropes,” the press service added.
  10. AUL
    AUL 4 September 2014 13: 46
    +4
    Quote: abc_02
    And GDP as always in its repertoire: sanctions, not sanctions, I am for peace and tranquility!

    Vladimir Putin proposed sending repair crews to restore Donbass

    It is necessary to open humanitarian corridors in the Donbass and send repair crews there to restore infrastructure, said Russian President Vladimir Putin. It is reported by RIA Novosti.

    I think that we are already developing projects for bringing gas pipelines, fuel pipelines and power lines from the territory of Russia to the DPR. And perhaps something is already being done in real life. Winter is coming, it will be necessary to save people. The junta will definitely not do this!
    1. nik6006
      nik6006 4 September 2014 14: 20
      0
      Already today in the news they write that the agreement with Novorossia is being prepared for gas, so that everything is going as it should.
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  12. Serrrrgo
    Serrrrgo 4 September 2014 14: 08
    -2
    And a few days ago everyone was happy that the American fighter had fallen. They say the troughs are rusty, they fall, ha ha
    So, gloating is not good, comrades. It is necessary to monitor their planes, and not other people's failures.
    1. qQQQ
      qQQQ 4 September 2014 16: 38
      +3
      I completely agree, a stranger fell and God be with him, the main thing is that ours would fly.
  13. shliapnik
    shliapnik 4 September 2014 15: 06
    0
    And what are the 31st in Krasnodar ..?
    1. VAF
      VAF 4 September 2014 17: 02
      0
      Quote: shliapnik
      And what are the 31st in Krasnodar ..?


      Нет! soldier
  14. donavi49
    donavi49 4 September 2014 16: 32
    -1
    31 there or with B with repair, which, in principle, is calm and not a pity. Or BM with gain due to Ukraine, which is very a pity sad .
    1. VAF
      VAF 4 September 2014 17: 09
      0
      Quote: donavi49
      31 there or with B with repair, which in principle is calm and not a pity


      1.275 ARZ does not produce any types of repair and maintenance of Mig-31 aircraft soldier
      2. It is a pity any aircraft, especially after repair. it is already a combat unit.
      3. B-shek has long been gone .. only D3 and BM.
      4. The BM plane from Kansk .. the crew are still alive, but with "problems" big in the spine
      1. Zlodeey
        Zlodeey 4 September 2014 17: 35
        +1
        What happened to the spine? Blow after bailout?
        1. VAF
          VAF 4 September 2014 19: 30
          +3
          Quote: ZloDeey
          What happened to the spine? Blow after bailout?


          If the IPS is poorly fitted .. then at least a compression fracture is ensured .. plus the IPS has one constructive "garbage" ... this is backlash, even with a full tightening of the belts.
          When in the GP and with normal maneuvering, then nothing .. bearable, but on aerobatics ... it "gets" specifically.
          Well, if it's easier, then .. it's like a chair in a racing car. But suddenly without a headrest and side supports.
          And yet it depends on how the forced pulling system works (as we say .. "packing".) lol
          So somewhere .. if briefly drinks

          And after the bailout, i.e. "exit" from the cockpit .. not any problems .. if, of course, the height allows, sit, "smoke" and wait for the automatics to work, the guillotine will cut you off the chair and the dome will "work".
          But if the height was not very ... or the position of the plane is 2slolzhnoe2, and if it also "poured" down ... then there may be problems ... because. the dome will open at a low height (the chair will practically not be stabilized and just the dome will instantly "pull out" you and can go into a "swing" .. so there is a big "trench" to kiss the earth and sideways and back and .. with an ass .. Well, it's not scary with a face .. a light filter and a mask will save you! (unless, of course, "forced" through the squib was connected, well, the "helmet" pull-up compensator).
          So there can be many reasons! +! drinks
          1. Zlodeey
            Zlodeey 4 September 2014 20: 23
            +1
            vaf-Sergey hi thanks for the answer so open drinks , very interesting, at the expense of low altitude, probably hardly, because, as I understand it, they catapulted with the permission of the dispatcher after they exhausted the fuel.
            1. VAF
              VAF 4 September 2014 23: 46
              +1
              Quote: ZloDeey
              , at the expense of low altitude, probably unlikely, because as I understand it, they catapulted with the permission of the dispatcher after they exhausted the fuel.


              If you reason according to the paragraphs of the Instructions, then the Flight Leader gives the command to leave the aircraft, or the commander (on multi-seat) or the pilot (on single) takes it himself. For many local more modern ones, there is a system of forced abandonment. (Even there is a Su-24).
              But this is in a serious accident .. here it could be assumed that after deciding to eject, the plane went to the special Zone (especially for leaving) at all airfields there are such ... guys left.
              As a rule, the height of the circle is 500-600 meters, but it is recommended to reach up to 1200-1500 meters.
              In such cases, as a rule, the fuel is drained accidentally .. up to an emergency residue (from 300 to 600 liters), depending on the type of aircraft.
              Well, it is quite possible while they were trying to somehow "squeeze out" the rack or release it in an emergency .. they did it many times .. the fuel was produced.
              Here, the term low altitude is not as "scary" as the fact itself .. the seat allows you to practically "go out on 0s with the lantern dropped (although there are cases on the Su-24 when the navigator left with his half closed. And the sash flew to the next the car was thrown away with some pyro pushers.
              But on the Ushshki Su-27 and MiG-29, well, and, respectively, the Su-30SM and Su-30M2 .. such a number will not work recourse there you definitely need speed depending on the type .. from 130 km and higher .. on the Tu-22M (2 and 3) exactly the same.
              So the most unpleasant thing is the vertical rate of decline .. there is a factor of 10-15 x V vertical in meters per second.
              so, it seems like you have a height of ... whole 500 meters, but you "roll" down at a speed of 25-30 meters per second ... 2-3 seconds for actions (decision making and the action itself), i.e. ... already 400 .. well, and then we multiply 15 by 30 .... that's the result .. it seems to have been .. doofiga, but it turned out that you already
              50 meters below the ground, i.e. as we say .. "with a mouth full" crying
              1. Zlodeey
                Zlodeey 5 September 2014 00: 29
                +1
                I learned a lot of cognitive, thank you smile
  15. hudjuk
    hudjuk 4 September 2014 17: 11
    +1
    In Khotilovo, more than 70 31x stood right on the strip along the forest - ON STORAGE! Rzhevsky arz is breathing in the wings - if they haven’t closed it yet ... these are the pies ...
    1. Irbis5974
      Irbis5974 4 September 2014 22: 55
      +1
      514 ARZ (Rzhev) is pushing, surviving, modernizing the 31st. She is trying to bite off a piece as much as possible in Nizhny Novgorod - I want to live. Here are just some grandfathers there practically remained and even at least something pulling, the youth there are in short supply.
  16. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 4 September 2014 19: 47
    +1
    there’s some kind of thin Soviet film even as the plane’s landing gear didn’t work out so its wing put it on a nearby UAZ-loaf rushing along the runway