Was Russia "asked" from Armenia?

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They want to finally oust Russia from the South Caucasus region. Thus, Deputy Foreign Minister of Azerbaijan, President’s Personal Representative I. Aliyev for the settlement of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, Araz Azimov, said that Russia should abandon its military presence in the South Caucasus. The Russian Federation should change its concept of presence in this region from military to economic.

It is clear that he voiced not only the wishes of Baku, because the Russian military presence in the South Caucasus and the Caucasus in general is an annoying factor for many in the world. Considering the factor who currently controls Russia, such “signals” are no longer surprising - for example, Moldova and Romania expect that the Russian Federation will demilitarize Transnistria by agreeing to its inclusion in Moldova.

Araz Azimov also hinted at the “reward” of Moscow: “It seems to me that the time has come to change Tanks to tankers. " “Tankers," apparently, means the possibility of revising Baku’s energy strategy in favor of Russia. What does Azerbaijan want? Given the process of rapidly building up the military power of the Azerbaijani armed forces, which has been going on in recent years and continues at present, Baku is ready to solve the Nagorno-Karabakh problem by military means. All the same, Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh will not yield. But this scenario is threatening a war with the Russian Federation - our 102nd military base is located in Armenia, its location there has been extended until 2044. So they offer Moscow to "leave", they say, we ourselves will solve everything here, without an "older brother". Azerbaijan has US interests behind it, which continue the strategy of "strangulation" of Russia.

According to the vice-president of the Russian Academy of Geopolitical Problems, Academician Araik Sargsyan, Russia should not leave Armenia, “after all, if it loses Armenia, this would mean the loss of the entire Southern and Northern Caucasus to Tatarstan and Bashkiria”.

The Russian military presence in Armenia, though small, is only one base (the number of members is approximately 4,4 thousand, and half of it is Armenian), but it determines the balance of power in this region. If not for this presence, the war, with considerable probability, would have already begun, given the aggressive aspirations of the Azerbaijani elite. Baku leads an anti-Russian policy, although not as frank as Georgia. Baku has already invited the North Atlantic Alliance to be present on a permanent basis in Azerbaijan, leading joint military programs with the bloc, so that in America on July 31 joint US-Azerbaijan two-week military exercises will begin. Their main task is to test the interoperability measures of the two armies during peacekeeping operations. In addition, behind Turkey’s back is Turkey, which is our old enemy, and one should not think that the old offenses have long been overgrown.

Armenia is our only ally in the region and in general is one of the few countries where the normal attitude towards Russia has remained. Therefore, such proposals should not even respond. Our military in Armenia are the guarantor of security in the region.

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http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1426758.html
http://www.regnum.ru/news/fd-abroad/armenia/1350175.html#1163850140
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    1. +1
      23 July 2011 10: 31
      So they offer Moscow to "leave", they say, we will decide everything ourselves, without the "big brother".

      Want is not harmful.
    2. Stiffmaister
      0
      23 July 2011 11: 21
      it’s possible to draw a logical chain, if Azerbaijan declares war on Armenia, then Russia also enters the war, in connection with this, it is more likely that Turkey enters the war on the side of Azerbaijan, in addition, Turkey is a member of NATO and can at any moment say that this is supposed aggression and then other members of the alliance will be required to intervene in the conflict.
      We can conclude (assumption) that a new WORLD conflict is not far off.
      1. His
        -7
        23 July 2011 12: 39
        Is not a fact. Che, we must support one side in exchange for the other, we have good relations with Azerbaijan.
        1. Ivan35
          +4
          23 July 2011 21: 45
          Oh sure! The Russian leadership still has some kind of influence on Azerbaijan and uses it. Azerbaijan is not a "lost" republic like Georgia!
          But we must somehow separate one from the other! Russia has different levels of proximity with different CIS republics. Armenia and Azerbaijan cannot be compared - Armenia is a close ally and member of the CSTO, in the future it can join the union of Belarus of Kazakhstan and Russia in the CU and CES.

          And the fact that "destructive elements" are lamenting, they say, Russia has no allies except the navy and army, I advise you not to take into account - either narrow-minded people or agents of the Pindos - they even have an official doctrine - to prevent the formation of a state on the territory of the USSR that can threaten the interests of the United States in region. Russia is confidently gathering the Union and the voices of "mongrels" will not stop it! Unfortunately, Armenia has a great potential for conflict and cannot yet fully unite with the union of the 3 republics.

          It is important not to exchange for momentary benefits - not to betray the fraternal people and somehow bring Armenia out of the "peak" into prosperity and join the fraternal union. We are too few to "scatter" our own. You are also "your"!
          1. +1
            28 November 2011 17: 22
            Historically, Russia has always supported Armenia! Without Russia, Turkey would have eaten it a long time ago!
            1. 16 REGION
              0
              19 November 2012 12: 03
              Quote: Snake831

              Historically, Russia has always supported Armenia! Without Russia, Turkey would have eaten it a long time ago!

              absolutely true, totally agree.
              1. Rustem10000
                0
                17 January 2013 18: 36
                Yes, it’s correct from the 17th century that it happened that Armenia had to hide under the skirt of Russia, but don’t forget about your past Russian, it’s not like you used to catch frogs in the swamps of Peter
    3. His
      +3
      23 July 2011 12: 38
      Strong do not touch. On the contrary, we must strengthen our groupings in the Caucasus. To increase aviation components, mobility, load the Caspian Sea with warships, and introduce submarines. Then everything will be quiet and according to our rules
      1. Ivan35
        +3
        23 July 2011 21: 48
        Correctly! But to become strong over to become bigger! It is necessary to unite at least part of the republics into a new union - which, fortunately, is happening now!
    4. merkawa
      +1
      24 July 2011 01: 31
      Well, the thing is, where are these kooky from? wink
    5. Stefano
      +2
      24 July 2011 14: 11
      Russia has been and will be in the South Caucasus, period.
      1. Rustem10000
        0
        17 January 2013 18: 37
        Only 3 centuries
    6. +4
      24 July 2011 17: 51
      In any case, Armenia is closer to Russia than Azerbaijan. This is not even discussed. It is clear to any sane person where it comes from. Calculation by calculation, and friendship by friendship. I want to believe that Plush will not turn into a Gorby. Well, from our past, especially for young people, I want to remind you of something. At the end of the existence of the USSR, Armenia, our army helped after the earthquake in Spitak, and in the early nineties, our army took Baku with battle, putting constitutional order in it, and very harshly. Older Azeris remember this well. That is the whole answer. And then the Aliyevs were there.
      1. Dims
        -5
        25 July 2011 15: 46
        http://lib.aldebaran.ru/author/velichko_vasilii/velichko_vasilii_kavkaz/
        Victor
        Here's a read. This book is over a hundred years old. See who is actually closer to Russia. At the same time, read the comments to the book. What the media write and what politicians "poke in" people is not worth taking on faith. And yet, not "our" army entered Azerbaijan on January 20, 1990, but the Soviet one (Azerbaijan was then still a part of the USSR), based on your logic, the army was "part-time" and the Azerbaijani one too ... And the Aliyevs were then in Baku there was no power, Mutalibov was. Ayaz Mutalibov - Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the Azerbaijan SSR (1989-1990), First Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Azerbaijan SSR (1990), the first president of the Azerbaijan SSR (1990-1992).
        You see, your post is very much like a media "product". There are many words, but almost no truth. Everything is built on the presentation of emotions ...
        1. +3
          25 July 2011 21: 20
          All that I wrote, dear Dims, I saw with my own eyes. Yes, the de jure army was Soviet, but in fact Russian. I hope you will not argue that in the CA 90% were Slavs? And I also saw how they mocked the Russians in Baku. Yes, Mutalibov was there, but the Aliyevs stood behind him. The scenario is the same as in Georgia. My emotions are very much involved in my real story from the life of a Soviet-Russian officer, and I vote not with books, but with my soul. His Slavic soul, which believes what he sees, and not what someone wrote somewhere. By the way, the army marched against the rebels who had betrayed their Soviet homeland. Consider this an oral demotivator.
          1. Dims
            -3
            25 July 2011 22: 13
            Quote: Victor
            Dear Dims, I saw it with my own eyes

            Victor, I lived in Baku. When I entered Baku, Soviet troops ... That's it I saw with my own eyes how people in uniform, sitting on armor, shot at the windows of residential buildings. On our balcony, the bullet split the window frame. And you being an officer of the Soviet - Russian army and seeing all this with your own eyes, weren't you among those sitting on the armor?
            And the Aliyevs at that time were in disfavor in power ...
            I myself am Russian, and I do not remember the facts of mockery of the Russians. I still had a bunch of Russian friends in Baku, and the facts of mockery have not yet been noticed. Among them, by the way, are officers of the Soviet Army.
            Quote: Victor
            With her Slavic soul, who believes what she sees,

            They hang noodles to our Slavic soul, but they don’t give out forks ... And we see what we want to see. Ukrainians and Belarusians are also Slavs, and nevertheless we, too, are slowly recording them as enemies.
            We often think with emotions, but we prefer not to notice the facts, including historical ones and the experience gained by previous generations, because it is easier to live like this.
            Quote: Victor
            against rebels who betrayed their Soviet homeland

            The Soviet Motherland was first betrayed in our Kremlin in Moscow! And all that we discussed above is simply pathetic attempts by the USSR government to find the guilty anywhere, but only away from your loved ones.
            in Baku there is an alley of the fallen on the night of January 20. And believe me, there are only civilians, and there are both Russians and women.
            1. +3
              27 July 2011 15: 43
              Each of us has our own truth. Often suffered. Just I do not believe in the Azerbaijani love of Russia and Russian. I'm sorry. Aliens to us.
              1. +3
                21 February 2012 13: 52
                I fully support the joint exercises with NATO, a direct proof of this.
        2. Marat
          +2
          25 July 2011 22: 12
          Armenia is an ally - a member of the CSTO and almost a candidate in both the CU and CES and possibly further
          Azerbaijan does not observe anything like this
      2. Ivan35
        +4
        25 July 2011 18: 40
        Victor - I support. We may be wrong about the details - but overall we are right. well, let the Soviet army - and let the other leadership be - the current situation is important - Armenia is a member of the ODKB and depends on Russia in terms of security - and Azerbaijan flirts with the US and has a "roof" in the form of Turkey (in fact, they are almost one people)
        And the minuses and negative can be found in everyone - but in general they have less anti-Russian sentiment and this is an ally of the people. Yes, it is farther than Belarus and Kazakhstan (in fact, our components), but much closer than Azerbaijan and Georgia
        1. Turkoman
          -1
          15 November 2011 22: 38
          Kazakhs and Azeri Turks. and they won’t fight with each other.

          among Armenians, a rather large Turkophobia. so the Russians will have to choose, Türks or Armenians
      3. Rustem10000
        -1
        17 January 2013 18: 41
        Yes, we all remember 1990, on January 20, the killing of unarmed people by the Red Army, we did not forget that.
    7. +2
      15 November 2011 22: 46
      I look now it has become fashionable to spit on Russia, well, nothing, soon they will bend like Ukrainians and ask us back, only we won’t take them, we don’t need prostitutes. All the same, money makes an animal out of a person.
      1. +1
        28 November 2011 17: 29
        From a man, if only he is a man, an animal will not make any money!
    8. Levonarmenia
      -1
      April 12 2012 19: 17
      Rossisky 102nd base in Armenia

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