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West realized who the real aggressor in Ukraine

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American journalists are starting to see clearly after European ones. In serious material, entering into controversy with the "corporate media", more and more often there are accusations of aggression in Ukraine, not Russia, but the bloc of the Western powers. Objective journalism is skeptical about the variations on the theme “Russians are coming!” Performed by newspapers funded by the State Department.

West realized who the real aggressor in Ukraine


An example is the recent article by Dave Lindorff published on the website "This Can't Be Happening".

According to the journalist, “corporate American media” is choking on the flow of “News”About the Russian“ invasion ”of Ukraine, as if it was now 1938, and German troops were marching in the direction of the Sudetenland and Austria. The author suggests looking at what is happening calmly and reasonably.

The journalist reminds that the eastern part of Ukraine is historically a part of Russia, and the western part in the past was the territory of Poland. Therefore, the country is ethnically and geographically divided into a “nation” of Ukrainians, most of whom live in the western part, and ethnic Russians, who represent a minority within the whole of Ukraine, but the majority are in the eastern part.

According to the publicist, the last legally elected president of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, was overthrown not without political support and not without US funding. The new government came to power through the coup. And the Russian minority in the east of the country regards it as a threat, since with it there were attempts to impose restrictions on the use of the Russian language. As a result, the “Ukrainian Russians,” the author writes, “revolted” and declared several regions autonomous republics. And the Crimea in general returned to Russia - through a referendum.

Then, the Ukrainian authorities, experiencing "strong pressure from the United States, including through the secret visit of the head of the CIA," began a "bloody" military campaign to suppress the uprising in Lugansk and Donetsk, as well as in Odessa and Mariupol.

Has Russia responded to this bloody action? The journalist admits that yes (“apparently”). How did she answer? Either by direct intervention (which Lindorf doubts), or by allowing Russian volunteers to cross the border or even encouraging them to join the fight. In any case, the result is already clear: the defeat of the Ukrainian forces, which are now almost everywhere retreating, is approaching.

Meanwhile, the American "corporate media" scream: "Russians are coming!" Russians are coming! America must act! ”

Further, the author quotes the famous progressive thinker (American), linguist and publicist Noam Chomsky.

The example that Chomsky gives is simple. He says: Imagine that the government of Mexico, lawfully elected by the people, was overthrown. Russia transferred five billion dollars to overthrow the putschists. The new government of Mexico has become, of course, pro-Russian. It immediately launched a military campaign against pro-American Mexicans and living in the 50-mile line south of the US border. Chomsky admits that there are such Mexicans there, although he is not sure of that.

Can we imagine, Chomsky asks, that the Mexican military began to indiscriminately bombard and bomb Juarez, Tijuana and other cities where even not just “pro-American” Mexicans live, but also many Americans who have out-of-town houses there or USA? Let's imagine that several thousand Americans in these areas were killed as a result of attacks by the Mexican military.

Will the US government fluctuate? Of course not, says Chomsky. Washington will act immediately. Society will demand blood, a forced march on Mexico City and the overthrow of a new Mexican government!

But this is only a projection of the Ukrainian crisis. The article further states that the United States made a “huge mistake” by supporting the overthrow of the legally elected pro-Russian government in Kiev and openly trying to turn Ukraine into the US orbit and even make it a member of NATO.

Russia reacted in the same way as the United States would have reacted in a similar situation if it were a question of the perceived threat to its national security.

According to Dave Lindorf, the US claims that Russia represents an aggressive threat to European security are simply absurd. Russia helps ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine, who have to defend themselves against the “ruthless ethnic cleansing” launched by the “Ukrainian regime in Kiev.” The new government "ruthlessly attacks the cities and villages" of the Russian-speaking areas

The idea that the degree of Russian aid to the rebels is so great that it justifies even the "launch of a new cold war" - "incredible hypocrisy." Yes, this is hypocrisy, the publicist insists, especially if you remember the long history America, who loves to poke his nose in the affairs of other states around the globe.

The time has come for the United States to stop repeating about “Russian aggression”. In the end, who, if not the United States, reminds the journalist, from the end of World War II weapon and keep troops on their bases in Europe and insist on the expansion of NATO? Does not the United States threaten to deliver missiles "along the Russian borders" - missiles designed to bring down the Russian ICBM and thus turn Russia into a country vulnerable to the first US strike?

US warships with nuclear weapons were sent to the Black Sea (imagine the Russian naval battle group with nuclear weapons in the Gulf of Mexico!). The United States organized economic sanctions against Russia. And it was the United States that sponsored the overthrow of the elected government of Ukraine. All these are acts of American, not Russian aggression, comrade Lindorf sums up.

As for Russia, it showed “rather amazing” restraint. One that the United States has never demonstrated in its foreign policy - for example, with countries located south of the border.

So, like many other analysts (for example, Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry, whose article I recently reviewed “VO”), Dave Lindorf believes that two nations clash in Ukraine - Russian and Ukrainian (and the Ukrainians consider the publicist to be a nation in quotes). Faced the same Russians and Ukrainians in the United States, supporting the winter Maidan politically and with money. The coup in Kiev is a matter of the bloody hands of Washington, a great lover of prying into the affairs of different countries.

The split of Ukraine into two parts Washington is clearly not suitable. The White House has repeatedly declared the "territorial integrity" nezalezhnoy, and recently confirmed their position. And this time Ukraine was spoken about not anywhere, but at the US National Security Council. It would seem: what does the US national security have to do with it? But nonetheless…

As reported by the news service "Voices of America", Kathleen Hayden, a spokeswoman for the US National Security Council, made a statement.

“We welcome the unanimity of the European Council today,” she said, “declaring strong support for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine and preparing new sanctions, which will soon be considered. We work closely with the EU and other partners so that Russia responds for its illegal actions in Ukraine, including through additional economic sanctions. We continue to support Ukraine in its search for a diplomatic solution to the crisis and call on Russia to immediately withdraw its military units, including manpower and military equipment, from Ukraine and put an end to the criminal support of the separatists. ”

At the same time, the US Senate promotes the idea of ​​arming the Ukrainian army.

Following the Republican senators McCain and King, through the TV channel "CBS" urged to urgently arm Kiev, so that Putin, defeating defenseless Ukraine, did not crush the Baltic States, Poland and further along the Soviet imperialist list, the chairman of the Senate Committee on External Relations Robert Menendez, who last week visited Estonia, Poland and Ukraine. His words brought the same "Voice of America."

While in Kiev, Mr. Menendez urged B.H. Obama to begin supplying arms to Ukraine, and at the same time expand sanctions against the banking, energy and military sectors of the Russian economy. Menendez is sure that thousands of Russian soldiers are helping the “separatists”. Next, the senator (for nothing that a Democrat, not a Republican), almost word for word, repeated McCain, saying that the United States, the EU and NATO "should give Ukrainians a chance to protect themselves."

All these statements suggest that the “Ukrainian crisis,” the culprit in which Moscow has been appointed, is planned in the US as a long-term one. It may well be that Washington, who has long wished to sabotage Gazprom from Europe, also planned a “gas crisis.” Papa Biden and his son are eager to extract gas in the shale (on the territory of Novorossia) on non-concession gas, and then sell it to Europe, and they do not need a competitor in the person of Mr. Miller.

As for Poroshenko, he, when he was Minister of Economic Development and Trade of Ukraine, promised to warm almost the entire European Union with shale gas. And in July, 2014, already being president, commenting on the signing of the economic part of the Association Agreement with the EU, Poroshenko among the promising areas in which Ukraine will cooperate with the EU, called just shale oil. By his words, “Shale gas ... needs new markets, opportunities and investments.”

Who will suffer in the case of "resolute support for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine"? Europe. Instead of a stable Gazprom, it will get a cat in a bag around the year of 2020, and instead of peace on its borders, the cold war 2.0, with Ukraine as its hot heart (and the European PRO is the liver). For NATO will not accept into its ranks a state with territorial problems (according to the statute is not supposed to), and neither Washington nor Kiev are actually seeking friendship with Moscow, peace and negotiations with those whom they call "separatists" (soft option) and "terrorists" (hard option). The sanctioned opposition against Russia, initiated by the USA, will drag on, and Europe will have to count new losses every year.

As a result, a peaceful solution to the Ukrainian crisis is not even planned. Kiev will not take a political decision on the federalization or even independence of Novorossia, wishing to “return the Crimea”. Obama will not allow. Yes, and for Poroshenko it will be like a stigma for the rest of his life: he lost to “Colorado” and “quilted jackets”! It would be better to sell candy, honestly ... But now, nobody needs candy either.

Only “separatists” can put a certain point in carrying out the line of splitting the country into two parts. If the White House does not dare to arm the Ukrainian army and provoke Russia into a big war, it is these people who are fighting today for the interests of the inhabitants of Novorossia will soon make political decisions and draw borders.

Observed and translated by Oleg Chuvakin
- especially for topwar.ru
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 4 September 2014 09: 32
    +26
    If everything starts, if only the hand on the "red" button does not flinch. Dying, so with music.
    1. sscha
      sscha 4 September 2014 10: 21
      +22
      Tipun to your tongue !!!!!!
      With music, America must be buried as a state. laughing
      1. gray
        gray 4 September 2014 11: 37
        +5
        Not a pip, but he says everything correctly. After all, he suggests not being the first to press, but in return, and the most important thing is that "if only the hand on the" red "button does not flinch."
        1. Canep
          Canep 4 September 2014 12: 34
          +1
          Yes, and for Poroshenko it will be like a stigma for the rest of his life: he lost to the Colorado and quilted jackets! It would be better if I sold candies, honestly ... However, now nobody needs candies either.
          Accepting the presidency of Ukraine in May this year is like a locksmith who has a soul on the outskirts to agree to take ownership of his plant whose debt is commensurate with the value of the plant itself. I already wrote that I myself would not under any circumstances run for president of Ukraine even if I would offer a lot of money for it, I’m not an idiot. But there are a lot of idiots in Ukraine, judging by the number of presidential candidates. Poroshenko inherited a very difficult legacy from the Maidan people who separated Crimea, the civil war in the Donbass, the discontent in Odessa and Kharkov, and the suicidal desire of Westerners who formatted the brains of propaganda to even enter into the EU, but at least in association with the EU. In general, Poroshenko called himself a load, let him now climb into the truck, there is no other way for him, with the exception of voluntary renunciation of power.
        2. mmk
          mmk 4 September 2014 21: 06
          +2
          It may not hurt you, but it may hurt you and your loved ones and rejoice as you can’t. Think!
        3. Straight
          Straight 4 September 2014 22: 37
          +2
          Intelligence must work well. And if intelligence reports that a nuclear strike against Russia (God forbid) takes place in the next few minutes or hours, then Russia must FIRST deliver a nuclear strike to the West. Enough for them to evade responsibility from their crimes against the Russian people! Burn them to hell since it’s all one to die, so that they are no more!
          1. Evrepid
            Evrepid 5 September 2014 18: 39
            0
            Not ... Not so!
            It was necessary that they were not there, but we were ... Enough to substitute our head ...
      2. sgazeev
        sgazeev 4 September 2014 20: 10
        +2
        Quote: sscha
        Tipun to your tongue !!!!!!
        With music, America must be buried as a state. laughing

        Bush is returning from Europe to the USA. Long flies, tired. Came into the cockpit, asks:
        - Will fly soon?
        - In about 15 minutes, if the will of Allah is there. laughing
    2. smershxnumx
      smershxnumx 4 September 2014 10: 30
      +19
      I wonder how many people read the resource "This Can't Be Happening"? How many people have read Dave Lindorff's article on this resource ??? To draw a global conclusion from a particular case is contrary to the laws of logic. And sane people are everywhere, only not everyone can hear them, but listen even less ... smile
      1. Corporal
        Corporal 4 September 2014 11: 51
        +1
        Sensible people always do not rush to conclusions and statements, all the time looking for information to confirm their opinions, stingy with the accusations.

        In general, bored with them. Is it the case with Yaytsenyuk, for example. You never get bored. Always sure, always know where to dig.
    3. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 4 September 2014 10: 35
      +16
      Klitschko-GIANT, psaki will have a bigger finger !!! laughed !!! ++++ laughing
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 4 September 2014 14: 56
        +12
        Are you talking about this one? laughing

      2. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 4 September 2014 15: 11
        +4
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        laughed !!! ++++


        on 1.30 wassat
        Broken positions of the National Guard.



    4. MaxSanbl4
      MaxSanbl4 4 September 2014 12: 37
      +1
      Will not waver, the Perimeter system of guaranteed retaliatory nuclear strike is unlikely to waver.
      PS: I hope she is still in service.
    5. ALABAY45
      ALABAY45 4 September 2014 21: 08
      0
      Hush, hush, hush! "Dad" is near ... A faceted glass (the one, still, Sovdepovsky, without a "belt") filled with a "misted" little water, pickled cucumber (5-6 cm, don't cut off the "ass", there is the cimus), slightly fried bread, better grain, and butter, fried in onions ... Clap !!!
      Vooot! And she went to x ..., this "red button" ...
    6. nikolaj1703
      nikolaj1703 5 September 2014 04: 47
      0
      The red button is 12 trillion dollars in cash from Russian citizens.
    7. aszzz888
      aszzz888 6 September 2014 05: 52
      0
      I think that does not begin. Still, these, the Mericatos and the Angles, play all-in. And they remember that if you really anger us, that is, Russians, they will suffer very, very much.
  2. vorobey
    vorobey 4 September 2014 09: 33
    +10
    Olezhka hello.

    will not be decided on a big war Washington.
    1. Mart
      4 September 2014 09: 52
      +9
      Quote: vorobey
      Olezhka hello.

      will not be decided on a big war Washington.


      Hi Sasha!
      Of course not. Obama is neither fish nor meat. In general, I got the impression that this "lame duck" is simply trying to hold out until the end of the presidential term, without getting caught up in something terrible. The question here is rather whether Washington will arm the Ukrainian army. Protesters of the American military-industrial complex like McCain insist on this very much. But I think Obama will take some "half measures" here too. His destiny until the fall of 2016 is to make statements. He can talk about "Russian tanks" and "columns", echoing Psaki, and nothing more. In fact, it is clear why even Negroes do not like him now.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 4 September 2014 10: 08
        +4
        Quote: Mart
        The question here is rather whether Washington will arm the Ukrainian army.


        this is a very subtle aspect, and I think that work in this direction is going on .. on our part .. in fact, Europe will have to pay for this holiday of life .. i.e. Europe will pay the Americans the armaments of Ukraine .. I do not think that this will inspire the Europeans ... if they could not stand the blow to the oranges and cried, then the answer can be even more painful ...
        1. Heinrich ruppert
          Heinrich ruppert 4 September 2014 12: 57
          +7
          Quote: vorobey
          will not be decided on a big war Washington.



          Quote: vorobey
          Quote: Mart
          The question here is rather whether Washington will arm the Ukrainian army.


          this is a very subtle aspect, and I think that work in this direction is going on .. on our part .. in fact, Europe will have to pay for this holiday of life .. i.e. Europe will pay the Americans the armaments of Ukraine .. I do not think that this will inspire the Europeans ... if they could not stand the blow to the oranges and cried, then the answer can be even more painful ...


          I bring you friends! drinks

          Last night I was at a meeting in Studgar. A stock broker, a policeman, and two entrepreneurs gathered at the table. After discussing the deal. decided to talk about politics.
          After another serving of beer, a few things seemed very strange to us, and in particular.
          Russia's external debt is decreasing every year. This is not to the liking of many "global investors."
          Second Germany should have completed 2014 without any loans from "investors"
          The third EU cuts defense spending, again "investors suffer"
          Fourth Obama goes to the summit so that EU governments spend at least 2% of GDP on defense every year.
          I totally agree with you Washington will not fight with Russia, but will rob Europe.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 4 September 2014 13: 32
            +6
            Henry buddy hello ..



            Quote: Heinrich Ruppert
            I totally agree with you Washington will not fight with Russia, but will rob Europe.


            as an extreme option it will try to push its foreheads. like before.

            British Field Marshal Bernard Montgomery had three laws of war:

            1. Never start a trip to Moscow;

            2. Never get involved in a land war in Asia;

            3. Never start a trip to Moscow.

            http://inosmi.ru/world/20140605/220815910.html
          2. iramix
            iramix 4 September 2014 13: 45
            0
            phishington was not going to fight with Russia FOR THIS LIKE A GAYROP AS THE LAST TIME
      2. ussr1960
        ussr1960 4 September 2014 10: 15
        +4
        Quote: Mart
        Of course not. Obama is neither fish nor meat.

        You just need to understand that Obama is by no means an independent political figure in solving global and strategic issues, like some other "glorious" representatives of the State Department. By and large, Obama is the political mouthpiece of the US shadow cabinet, consisting of the family clans of billionaires with their own economic interests, whose interests and orders are served, among other things, by the CIA and the FBI. For this Obama is "forgivable" to declare about the 19th century or about a referendum in Kosovo. What he was told, what they wrote, then he utters, reminding in some way of Psaki.
    2. gray
      gray 4 September 2014 11: 40
      0
      If Washington begins to arm the Ukrainians, then we just need to arm New Russia, and there it is not far from the conflict.
    3. iramix
      iramix 4 September 2014 13: 43
      0
      are you so sure
  3. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 4 September 2014 09: 35
    +5
    American media propaganda is so perverted that they themselves are confused by their lies, and this is not to hide from sane
  4. Alex20042004
    Alex20042004 4 September 2014 09: 36
    +5
    Dogs to the dog.
    Russians are coming !!!
    Hundreds of ukrozhurnalyug have been looking for a regular Russian army in Donbas for several months now, but there is no result.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 4 September 2014 09: 49
      +5
      Quote: Alex20042004
      Hundreds of ukrozhurnalyug have been looking for a regular Russian army in Donbas for several months now, but there is no result.

      Ukrainians are constantly laughing
      1. Shiva83483
        Shiva83483 5 September 2014 09: 19
        0
        Antyres, but how did it organize there a whole amyral-if the fleet, as such a yok? And do wild boars walk on the sea?
  5. Imperialkolorad
    Imperialkolorad 4 September 2014 09: 39
    +6
    Unfortunately, such journalists are very, very few. The bulk are under tight control and are stupidly afraid of losing their piece of bread.
  6. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 4 September 2014 09: 43
    +8
    West realized who the real aggressor in Ukraine
    - come on? Along the way, not only from the apes people came, but also from giraffes ...
  7. argon
    argon 4 September 2014 09: 45
    +3
    Here the rats stir! For the sake of the golden calf, their mother will be sold.
  8. odmax3
    odmax3 4 September 2014 09: 47
    +3
    Glory to the New Russia!
  9. parusnik
    parusnik 4 September 2014 09: 50
    +5
    I read Lindorf’s article .. it’s very sensible there everything is sorted out, for stupid people .. I don’t know the truth how many Americans wiser after his article ..
    1. Alex
      Alex 4 September 2014 15: 38
      +2
      Quote: parusnik
      . I don’t know the truth how many Americans wiser after his article ..

      Little. Regarding their mental abilities, Zadornov has repeatedly spoken out.
  10. Zaslavsky-S
    Zaslavsky-S 4 September 2014 09: 51
    +5
    "How many strife and confusion
    Veda Mother Motherland,
    How they wanted to bend us
    How they tried to break us.

    How many jackals and dogs
    Rocking around
    To the gold of our breads
    For the gold of our icons. "
  11. Skiff_spb
    Skiff_spb 4 September 2014 09: 51
    +1
    Is there a link to the original article? I want to show some people in the USA.
    1. Mart
      4 September 2014 09: 54
      +2
      Quote: Skiff_spb
      Is there a link to the original article? I want to show some people in the USA.

      The link is in the text. Right on the resource name ("This Can't Be Happening").
  12. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 4 September 2014 10: 01
    +7
    While in our favor it seems, but obviously need a knockout))) laughing (they don’t understand otherwise)))
    1. Val_y
      Val_y 4 September 2014 12: 40
      +1
      Nah no knockout, FULL SCRIPT, so the teeth flew out and the monkey’s jaw cracked in two places, angry so that the semolina through the tube sucked for a month good
  13. mig31
    mig31 4 September 2014 10: 06
    +1
    Looking at this dog you understand what America is like today - lying, cowardly and not far from the mind ...
  14. volcano
    volcano 4 September 2014 10: 10
    +3
    Thanks Oleg.
    Thanks to you, there is an opportunity to receive some hope that not everything is so bad in the West. People are seeing. Slowly but surely.
    Although there is certainly a big difference between public opinion and the "official position".
    I always said I say and I will say that democracy is a bluff. And Europe and the United States do not care what the population thinks. They are embarking on the warpath .. And if you think about it, this is not too important an occasion to ask the opinion of their citizens.
    Democracy is when Obama asked Americans "Shall we fight Russia?" And the population responded through a referendum. Yes or no.
    Strange world.

    That's why I'm a monarchist :)
  15. Vend
    Vend 4 September 2014 10: 25
    0
    And the Russian minority in the east of the country

    Well, yes, the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine in the minority 80% of 100 speak Russian throughout Ukraine laughing In general, the right American journalist, when everything is over and the truth will triumph, such journalists around the world will occupy a corresponding high position in the media.
  16. lotar
    lotar 4 September 2014 10: 26
    +1
    US politicians have long proved their stupidity, the same unfounded accusations without evidence are a clear confirmation of this. Their vassals from Europe, Canada, Australia and some East Asian countries are on a short leash, and they have no right to bark without an order, and even more so to bite for a causal place. That also confirms the gradual degradation, both morally and physically, a clear fact is the ever-expanding gay-European lobby. Ukrainian politicians, following Europe, or rather, the top of the Ukrainian government also chose the path to nowhere. I would not be surprised if those the same Yatsenyuk, Turchinov, Avakov, Potroshenko and others periodically organize gay parties, or soon their European "friends" will demand it from them. So, in general, we can say in the affirmative that the modern world is gradually moving into a pit of all human vices and end and edge is not yet in sight. One hope is in Russia, where people can still change the situation for the better in spite of all the difficulties.
    1. Djuma
      Djuma 5 September 2014 10: 06
      0
      Unfortunately, Americans have a very big influence on their henchmen and especially jackals, such as the Baltic states, Poland, etc. Whatever they say - mongrels will always assent, instead of laughing together at this nonsense. Imagine if Kim Jong-ya talks about the American invasion of the DPRK today - everyone will laugh and call him crazy. In theory, the same reaction should be to the statements of Obama, Poroshenko and all sorts of other psak. But no, all TYPE believe. And where do they go?
  17. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 4 September 2014 10: 26
    +1
    Who needs it - they know. And there are reasonable people in the West. And who is interested? The media, in their pursuit to publish the news, were the first to stop checking the information altogether. Moreover, they are afraid to lose advertising if they get stuck "across".
    "People" hawala? Does it interfere with doing business?
    Well, that's all goodies.
  18. Hope1960
    Hope1960 4 September 2014 10: 31
    +1
    The West will not be allowed to see the light: they will arrange something like an attempt on the life of John F. Kennedy for this journalist, and on TV they will launch some cool TV series or reality show where people are killed live - and that's it !!!! "Dumbyyyyye" will eat popcorn and forget about everything !!!!!
  19. Denis
    Denis 4 September 2014 10: 32
    +3
    And it was the United States that sponsored the overthrow of the elected government of Ukraine
    They are the most honest and reliable ally. lol
    West realized
    Like the one in the photo?
    So she is not able to understand, and to think too
  20. special
    special 4 September 2014 10: 34
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Alex20042004
    Hundreds of ukrozhurnalyug have been looking for a regular Russian army in Donbas for several months now, but there is no result.

    Ukrainians are constantly laughing

    They even attributed the surrender to Krapovy to Ur RK of the VV MVD! Clowns! fool
  21. Woolfy
    Woolfy 4 September 2014 10: 35
    +3
    Thanks to the author, the article pleases but not very much. I’ll explain .... For several months now we have noticed that the consciousness of Amer and Geyrope inhabitants is turning around. But this is the voice of one crying in the wilderness. You don’t have to deceive yourself about this. This is one ... And there isn’t any movement in our direction! And it won’t be. Let's not be naive. A geyropa for that and a geyropa to act like ginseng ... He admits to himself that he is not right, but he will not say sorry and will not say a word. But to the amers in general ... What the hell ...
  22. bubla5
    bubla5 4 September 2014 10: 51
    +1
    The time will come and in pind - these will scream in horror -NEGORS go !!!
  23. delorian
    delorian 4 September 2014 11: 06
    0
    I’m sure that time works for Russia!
  24. pvv113
    pvv113 4 September 2014 11: 10
    +4
    For NATO will not accept into its ranks a state with territorial problems (not prescribed by statute)

    Knowing the dishonesty of these individuals, we can confidently say that in order to achieve their interests, they can at any moment change the laws that they themselves invented. And the NATO Charter in this case is no exception. negative
  25. fktrcfylhn61
    fktrcfylhn61 4 September 2014 11: 19
    0
    And why did not Stsaki object?
  26. rumiigo
    rumiigo 4 September 2014 11: 52
    0
    Quote: fktrcfylhn61
    And why did not Stsaki object?

    It’s really interesting to listen to Jane - what this time ... will work?
  27. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 4 September 2014 12: 08
    0
    Someday, and I think soon, all this whistle will end and we will remember with humor how Oleg translated articles from different publications to us, and while practicing eloquence we mocked in our comments Obama, Psaki, Poroshenko, Lyashko, Klitschko, Lord, that for stupid surnames where only they found them.
  28. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 4 September 2014 12: 27
    0
    The "eagles" from Washington are not going to fight on their own, they want to sit behind a "big puddle". But they will fight with the hands of Europeans from NATO, primarily Poles, Balds and Romanians. Those. the most frostbitten of Russophobic in Europe !!! Americans will only throw "little woods" on fools from Europe. The "washing machine" of the USA will be washing its green paper with might and main until the golden sheen appears! Just sit it out (amer) will not work !!! And in Russia it is time to break the neck of the Amerov's henchmen of the liberal-fascist persuasion and abandon the country's movement in the capital direction, into which the country was driven by the EBN and K with amerov's advisers, the so-called. "friends" of Russia am soldier .
  29. fairmen
    fairmen 4 September 2014 12: 35
    +2
    The MH17 of the Malaysian Airlines, which crashed near Donetsk in July, was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and the Ukrainian government is responsible for the tragedy.

    According to the New Straits Times, a “killer report” released on August 3 said that “some sources of American intelligence concluded that the rebels and Russia were most likely not involved in the crash of the Boeing, and that government forces were to blame for the death of the plane Of Ukraine. ”

    Thus, American researchers confirmed the version of Russian colleagues that the airliner was shot down by a fighter of the Ukrainian Air Force.

    Recall, the passenger Boeing 777, July 17 flying from Amsterdam (Netherlands) to Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia), crashed in Ukraine 60 kilometers from the Russian border. Onboard were 298 people, all died.
  30. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 4 September 2014 12: 36
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    I feel fried. Here and cluck ... we are responsible for those who tamed ... that's what I think about the attitude of the states and Hohland
  31. faterdom
    faterdom 4 September 2014 12: 39
    +1
    It's nice to know that there, in the distance, beyond the river there are still smart people. I especially liked the last paragraph, that everyone had planned in advance the United States and its puppets in Ukraine and Europe, and the Russian people in the Donbass and the Luhansk region became the real creator of history. They are now crossing out the remnants of respect for the United States and self-esteem of the European Union, they are awakening Russia, opening their eyes to the Makrevich-Chubais and other curls.
    That is all of them! They are us!
    And most importantly: it's not about them. The matter is in ourselves.
  32. 3vs
    3vs 4 September 2014 12: 51
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    Adequate people remained in America.
    It is a pity that d ~ ebony in power do not listen to them.
  33. Unclean
    Unclean 4 September 2014 13: 03
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    What will amerisosy arm Hohloarmiya with? The Georgians were already armed and trained, but something somehow did not work out. And about the Georgian army, one Amerisos general said something like this - Russia showed us how it can fight a NATO-style army, the Georgian army was trained for six years, in six years you can make a commando out of any monkey ...--. And what happens if they supply the hohloarmii with equipment and equipment, will they put it all on themselves and again on Donbass? Only it is doubtful how it is, most likely the Americans will strain the Geyrop people, so that they shove them with scrap metal, and a couple of something new. I think neither Abrams nor leopards with lecllers and nonsense Khokhlovoyaks will not see. There will be a lot of anti-tank weapons and all kinds of instructors and educators. They will not calm down, there will be a fight for the territory near Russia, I hope it will not reach a full-scale war, but this fire will burn for a long time. The parashko will begin to draw in response to the proposal of Novorossia some kind of gallop excuses and show-off, he will wait, pordon, the owners will order to wait, what decision they will host at the NATO summit. Let's wait and see.
  34. Black
    Black 4 September 2014 13: 32
    +1
    Quote: 3vs
    Adequate people remained in America.


    Does anyone think that inadequate people are sitting in the White House? What is psaka after inadequate? General, shaking a bottle of tooth powder at the UN, thought there was anthrax spores? The State Department, who said that the Boeing was shot down, we did not know what they ????

    In Germany, more than half belong to Russia with great sympathy and are well aware of what is happening in Ukraine. And someone asks them ???
    Democracy is good for those who have already stalled the people, and bad for those whose people still believe in power. In the West, people have been in a stall for a long time.

    PYSY.A Abamka just the same yesterday pleased me with her historical knowledge ..... Collage with a banana used to seem to me evil and too abusive .... I was wrong ... yes
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 4 September 2014 15: 54
      +1
      In Germany, rallies and pickets are held in 100 cities every week in support of Russia and for independence from Washington.
      1. Heinrich ruppert
        Heinrich ruppert 4 September 2014 16: 02
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        Quote: siberalt
        In Germany, rallies and pickets are held in 100 cities every week in support of Russia and for independence from Washington.


        Oleg, I can confirm this. But what is surprising is that the government persistently does not hear it.
  35. Commissar
    Commissar 4 September 2014 13: 34
    +2
    A well-fed muzzle, a blunted gaze, gypsy beads, a dumb outfit, a vulgar haircut, slanting eyes, speech is out of sight, and legs are crooked! Where did they find this psaku, a dumb, scary, horse-dog for the State Department !? Harf: The same mare, the same fool, only more satisfying mug and figure. It’s a shame to say such things from the State Department, from the rostrum of America to the face of the world, of these mares headed by McCain on the streets with brooms to scrape shit!
  36. alovrov
    alovrov 4 September 2014 14: 20
    -1
    Nifiga no one is seeing. The value of such publications is not even zero, but sharply negative. The presence of 1 imputed to 99 corrupt and irresponsible journalists and PR specialists in the United States allows authorities to declare freedom of speech. Meanwhile, the value of this one sane is precisely in the fact that the public unconditionally believed in the rest of 99. Perhaps not all journalists and other PR specialists understand their role in this total propaganda machine. But objectively - telling the truth, they fully work for the Big Lie.
  37. vadoc
    vadoc 4 September 2014 16: 07
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    [quote = ussr1960] [quote = Mart] No, of course. Obama is neither fish nor meat. [/ quote]
    You just need to understand that Obama is by no means an independent political figure in dealing with global and strategic issues, like some other "glorious" representatives of the State Department. By and large, Obama is the political mouthpiece of the US shadow cabinet, consisting of the family clans of billionaires with their own economic interests, whose interests and orders are served, among other things, by the CIA and the FBI. For this Obama is "forgivable" to declare about the 19th century or about a referendum in Kosovo. What he was told, what they wrote, then he utters, reminding something of Psaki. [/ Quote. This is true for 100 pounds ... This monkey is controlled by the Rothschilds and Rockefellerrs, who are at the head of the Belderbeer club.
  38. AleksWest
    AleksWest 4 September 2014 16: 36
    +3
    For several days she was forced to be in the zone of Ukrainian television. Tin. It’s hard to blame people who constantly live in the information stream plagued by clearly existing zombie towers.
    UkroSMI received new manuals:

    1. Now the army, the National Guard and the punitive battalions are fighting exclusively with the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. The standard news is: "The 98th Airborne Division of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation occupied the city of Novosvetlovka." Of course, every day more and more Russian military units with repainted equipment - "Grads", "Hurricanes", "Tornadoes" and bouquets of "Carnations", "Hyacinths" and "Tulips" invade the territory of Ukraine across the border. This whole armada is met and sometimes won by the valiant ukrovoyska.

    2. Russian paratroopers from Pskov, as the video of interrogations prove:

    a) frankly do not like Russia and Putin;
    b) have problems with memory - they are convulsively trying to remember the names of settlements, turnout passwords and given either verbally or not given at all the orders of senior officers;
    c) they do not believe Russian TV, because see point a);
    d) they get scared when they hear the sounds of gunfire;
    e) strongly believe that orders are being discussed ...

    In short, some kind of strange paratroopers.

    3. A separate topic - "mothers of Russian paratroopers". They all the time appear on TV channels, denouncing the Putin regime and the Kremlin's invasion of sovereign Ukrainian territories. It seems that the mothers' camp is set up somewhere near Kiev.

    4. A rotation of personnel is fun across Ukraine: crying parents, wives and children happily meet the military who have returned from the front, who promise to spend 3-4 days in the family circle and again to the front. Everyone is happy, happy and want to continue the war.
    5. Most of all ukrovoyaks are glad that they are greeted with the Ukrainian flag and shouts: "Glory to the nation! Death to the enemies!"

    6. Mariupol unanimously wrapped itself in Ukrainian flags and promises to stand to the end. The teenagers promise to take up arms. Families dig ditches and trenches, pastors from London rush to help the diggers. "The West is with us!" (from).

    7. Putin’s regime is over. It will come literally just in a matter of weeks, or even days. Russia's economy is already bent from sanctions. Many Russian regions have crazy domestic debt and, in fact, bankrupt. Everyone in Russia recognizes this.
    8. America will impose new sanctions from day to day, and this will finally break the Kremlin. In addition, the Sixth US Fleet is already on its way to Novoazovsk.
  39. AleksWest
    AleksWest 4 September 2014 16: 36
    +1
    9. Brave Ukrainian officers, surrounded by Russian paratroopers, undermine both themselves and the paratroopers in a ratio of 1:12. There is no video, of course, but the burnt covers of Russian passports remain in the place of the feat. In addition, gallant battalions with increasingly strange names heroically destroy the armored columns thrown by Putin to the war with Ukraine every day. Russian tank crews (they are also officers of the GRU in disguise) run away back to Russia with confessions: "This is not our war! I saw that this is not at all the way I was told in the Kremlin! Putin - la-la-la-la!" "

    10. Terrorists and separatists, since the Ukrainian anti-terrorist operation forces are not fighting with them, out of idleness and internal meanness, are engaged in shelling cities and towns of Donbass from all types of weapons. All they do is smack about residential areas, markets, hospitals, schools and kindergartens from Grad and Hurricane. Russian television is filming all this for Kiselev's programs, who zombies the citizens of the Russian Federation with an outright lie.

    11. In Russia, everyone hates Putin, and as soon as the Ukrainian army walks along the Donetsk border and approaches the Russian borders, Russia will be swept by the Maidan, as a result, the regime will fall, dozens of small independent states will gain freedom, democracy and tolerance, Siberian The Federation will be ruled by an honest pro-American president, an era of prosperity will come for journalists, gays, representatives of the creative class and the creative intelligentsia. With such a new Russia, Ukraine will be happy to buy gas for $ 50.

    12. Refugees in Russia are forced to look for work instead of taking them on full state support.
    13. Putin must restore the destroyed Donbass, because see point 1.
    turn
  40. Lyton
    Lyton 4 September 2014 17: 01
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    Guys should not be deceived that in America, someone who reads and understands something, 90% of the population is completely uninterested in politics and they have this Ukraine on the drum, they don’t even know where this territory is, the State Department and billionaires rule the ball, and stupid people like McCain who has one war on his mind.
  41. sgazeev
    sgazeev 4 September 2014 20: 16
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    What, comrade Obama,
    Do you get up early to lick ass?

    A Pearl Harbor Throat
    A couple of top-down towers
    Not enough for you yet, America, bastard?

    Stretch your paws - stretch your legs!
    You will forget the way to Iraq, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan!

    Termites will gnaw your house from the inside!
    Die, USA country, die!

    Give in to your dead presidents!
    Our moonshine is an everlasting currency.
    We’ll drink from our birches ourselves.

    You will come to us without asking -
    Blow off our pines!

    Shut up TV!
    Citizen machine gun, speak!
    Die dumb America! Die!
    am
  42. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 4 September 2014 23: 18
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    Well and correctly said, and most importantly to the point!
  43. Alfizik
    Alfizik 4 September 2014 23: 38
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    Everything would change in a month if all Russians without exception (and others would catch up with us) use only two terms in relation to "partners": "Empire of lies" and "puppets of the Empire of lies".