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Russian special forces on the war in the Donbass: smuggling, looting, mess

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Russian special forces on the war in the Donbass: smuggling, looting, mess


We talked with our hero twice, before his trip to the Donbass and after returning. He went to war voluntarily, driven by patriotic feelings, an order and his own understanding of a sense of duty. What I saw in Ukraine was very different from the picture shown on TV and painted in online communities. The desire to share the experience was the reason for our second conversation, it took place immediately after the return of serviceman N. home. Our interlocutor was extremely frank, but we deliberately concealed his name and a number of details of the biography so that there was no threat to his personal safety. Some of the facts described by our interlocutor, can not be verified due to the scarcity of truthful information from the combat zone. Part of the information when checking in various open and closed sources has been confirmed. This includes including the counteroffensive of the Russian army under the guise of Donbass militias, predicted by our interlocutor at the beginning of last month, which is unfolding these days before our eyes. To believe or not the picture presented to them is for the reader to decide, we only transfer the content of our conversation, without any text processing and bills.

All the events in question took place from May to August 2014. The italics indicated quotations from a conversation held in early summer, before sending N. to Donbass.

Did you serve in the army? Which troops?

He began his service in the 16 th Tambov brigade for special purposes. After military service, he signed a contract and was assigned for distribution to the Caucasus, to the 58 Army. He was trained in the center for the training of intelligence units. The contract was interrupted early.

Have to participate in the fighting?

Well, how to say, there is no war in the North Caucasus, there is no fighting there. We went to the mountains to comb, sat in ambush, accompanied by columns. Participated in what is called the cordon. When FSB special forces storm houses, apartments, we stand in a cordon, block the area. I did not participate in direct clashes.

What unit were you in the Donbas?

I can not tell you.

DNR or LC?

It was a division of the Russian Ministry of Defense, let's say.

Did your unit participate in the fighting?

Yes

How do you evaluate the professional qualities and training of the militia?

Militia on the top three.

Is it a matter of training or low moral character?

There are many factors in assessing their skills. They do not have competent commanders. There were many serving people, but there were no competent commanders. Many recruit themselves to the squad 30-40 people get weapon and, feeling the power, begin to pull the blanket over himself. There is no consistency, people substitute each other, kill each other. The equipment that our country supplies to Ukraine would be enough to capture a country like Latvia or Poland. They can use this technique, but they can correctly use it - no.

What kind of equipment supplies the Russian Federation to the Donbass?

Think for yourself, without the support of the Russian Federation, the South-East would not have lasted even a month. Because everything that they have is simply impossible to get in battle. This and Tanksand howitzer artillery, and self-propelled artillery, “Grads”, absolutely everything from small arms to special equipment.

How do you rate the fighting qualities of the Ukrainian army?

If we consider reservists and the National Guard under, then the level is similar to the militia, absolutely the same. And if we consider battalions of mercenaries, they are Azov, Ternopil, Donbass, where there are probably all Englishmen, French, Poles, 70 percent, then they are, yes, masters of their craft.

What is evidence that there are mercenaries in the ranks of the Ukrainian troops? Were prisoners? Captured documents?

Yes, what documents, if you saw with your own eyes how their column moves to Lugansk under the American flag - just hung a flag over the equipment. This time. And the second, when we worked in the Red Partizan (Chervonopartizansk - Ed.), This is the Izvarino district, Krasnodon, there was a female colony, we were digging it for two weeks, kept it surrounded. So there without hiding, quietly declaring itself, there were 30 Polish mercenaries. Not hiding, not hiding.

And why their captives are not shown on cameras? So far there is only a video of a Swede from the battalion "Azov", but this is one person.

Yes, the Swedes just replicated. I think there is no wide publicity that's why. Imagine a situation that our country will show ten people to these Swedes, Czechs, Negroes, then they will do the same, they will present the destroyed squad of Russian mercenaries. This is a war of special services.

And captured citizens of the European Union, the United States?

Not the United States, but the European Union, yes.

Is it true that they say about the low moral qualities of the Cossacks? In particular, about desertion and leaving positions without orders?

As for the Cossacks, it is impossible to say definitely, some are normal, well-prepared. Some came to warm their ass, to pick up cars, pomradernichat, smuggling to mess.

Speaking of looting and smuggling, tell us what the scale of these phenomena?

Here is an example. There is such an organization "Oplot", they probably heard. When they were standing in Snezhniy and Dmitrovka, there were general alcoholism, drug addiction and looting. People were taken away on the street of their cars, things. Often came to the killings. It's about people. You know, money is a good measure of a person: whatever he may be in words, when he gets a lot of money or gets the opportunity to earn a lot of money, he changes right before his eyes. In general, looting is present and very common. He is well fought in Lugansk and Donetsk.

Shootings?

Yes, in most cases. The situation is difficult, people can be stumbled, and others, they still understand. And so, if it is clear that a man is a gangster, he has robbed another civilian, pulled him out of the car, hijacked the car, then, of course, he was shot.

Tell us how the militia has a system of medicine. Suppose a fighter is injured or disabled, what happens to him next?

If a person from a local goes to the militia, then he goes at his own peril and risk, they have no payment, in most cases there is no serious medical care - only that which can be rendered on the spot. They have no social guarantee, for example, those who come from Russia, that is, those like me. We must also understand that there are different groups from different offices. There are people from Russia who travel for ideological reasons, they themselves have gone, crossed the border, joined some militia unit and fought, such people also have no social security, nothing. And there are those who act from the office, from our departments (Russian - approx. Ed.), These people and the salary goes, and social security. When injured pay compensation depending on the severity, 300-400 thousands.

And how much do they pay an ordinary soldier, an officer?

It depends on the rank, position, there are some officers who, by virtue of age, are only suitable for work in the rear services, they are paid one sum.

How much does a fighter, who has experience in database, qualify?

The experience of fighting does not affect, the main thing is the position and qualifications. Here I, for example, I had a reconnaissance and sabotage unit from the Ministry of Defense, our salary was 90 thousands per week.

Is this money really paid? Do not throw?

Yes, they are really paid. The office never threw people. Money always stood out, their commanders threw people. At first, the money was paid to the unit commander, and the commander paid it back to his people. There were cases when the commander received several million rubles on his hands, he was torn off the lid, he substituted people for a very tough magnus * orez, they simply killed half of them, and he himself disappeared with money. Now it was taken under control, because there were many dissatisfied people, people were returning with weapons, rushed, threatened to arrange terrorist attacks, and so on. The system was adjusted, so to speak, now the money is given out differently.

And if a person dies, give money to relatives?

Yes, when you come in, fill out questionnaires, indicate the addresses and contacts of relatives there, everything is checked, you hand over the documents. If you are killed, the money sent to relatives.

Did you tell your family where are you going? How did they react to this?

You know, it was difficult for my family to even live with the fact that I joined the army. I left the institute and went to serve. I have a military father, a military family. Many relatives also participated in the Great Patriotic War, in the wars of the Union, in the wars of 90, Karabakh, Yugoslavia, Transnistria, Chechnya. My father participated in the Afghan and Chechen wars, he was strongly opposed to me going to the army, and when he found out that he was going to the Caucasus, he did not want to know me until the end of relations. But he took it out of fright, everything was fine, they made up. The family does not know that I am going to Ukraine.

You never told your family where you went and drive?

Native ... no, I did not say.

I asked about the injury, and what is done with the bodies of the dead citizens of the Russian Federation if the body could be removed from the battlefield?

If he is from Russia and served in one of the organizations, then he is sent to Russia.

Through the Rostov military hospital?

Yes, everything goes through Rostov. And the preparation of people, and technology, and everything else.

Have you seen a recent report on 200 cargo that you brought to Russia in a refrigerator? (Novaya Gazeta # 60 from 4 June 2014 “200 Cargo”)

The same cargo arrived two of my comrades.

Doesn't it seem to you that such a situation is wrong when these people thought that they were beating for Russia, for the “Russian world”, while the state media were silent about that?

Politicians play their game, they do their work, let them do it. I do not think that when we win, they will be forgotten. The main thing is that people remember them - if people remember them, their memory will not be forgotten, politicians change, and memory is passed down from generation to generation.

How have your views changed after participating in the database in the Donbass?

Views have not changed, changed the idea of ​​what is happening. You see, all these Vkontakte groups, on the Internet, they write all this hurray-patriotism, tales of white bulls, that everything is one, a united front of the militia, and so on. And you just can not imagine what kind of militia there is on the sale of drugs and weapons. There simply disappears weapons that Russia supplies. Anti-aircraft systems "Igla", "Arrow", heavy weapons - all this just disappears. The Igla MANPADS are allocated to subunits, of which more than half disappear when crossing the border. Where, what - no one knows.

And how does this flow of smuggling go, the Russian side does not inspect the goods?

You see, the tightening of the screws in this question began only now (August - approx. Ed.) When everything was still raw, on the run-in - how to deliver what, in what ways - people with shoulder straps were doing it ... I will not say what organization, but with epaulets.

And the same MANPADS complexes were only in subdivisions from Russia, or were they also broadcast to MANPADS militiamen?

No, they were allocated to the unit that formed the Ministry of Defense or the "office", and they went along with them. Then on the invoices, on the papers, they stood out, and no one knows where to go any further. Because the staff was not informed what and how it should be allocated and in what quantities.

What are your views strengthened?

Yes, in any, it still remains. I just realized that if wars were not fought over money, there would be no wars. And this war, yes it ... it would be possible to finish a maximum in a month. Because both from our side, and from the Ukrainian military and security officials, the same money-laundering, arms trade, and drug trafficking is going on. Just goes making grandmas. You will see, when the politically convenient moment comes, a fracture will come in our or in their direction. In the meantime, it is not profitable, while it is advantageous to wage this war, so current incomprehensible, with varying success. The militia will report that they are great, the Ukrainians will say that they are. Until there is a convenient political moment, I assure you that they will throw bombs at each other.

So who is fighting and why? Criminal clans find out the relationship?

Why do criminal clans, political. The West earns its money, weapons are being run in, special forces, testing of new types of weapons, training of special forces. This remember how the war in Spain was? It was running in before the big war, just a test of strength.

That is, everything will end in a big war?

It all depends on how far our leader dares to go in economic terms. As far as he is ready to lead the country out of the banking protectorate of the West. If he dares, the interest on 90 will be a big war. It has always been this way: when the West was cornered financially, a big war began.

What impressed you the most was that you didn’t expect to see when you arrived at the Donbass?

It makes a big difference what is written in newspapers, on the Internet and the news, with what is really going on. Banditry, looting, murder, lack of coordination. The "Vostok" battalion, the units of Bezler and Strelkov have coordination. These units, without regard to personal gain, are doing everything they can to win, or at least to keep what they have. When politicians have played enough and there will be a war until victory. I was surprised by this colossal difference between the picture on TV and reality. I will tell you this: our structural units themselves destroyed seven militia units that smuggled weapons and drugs.

That is, those radio intercepts, which are published in the network, in which the militia are afraid of imminent liquidation, may be associated with their criminal affairs, smuggling?

There is still a struggle for power, everyone understands that the war will ever end, and someone will get power. Ukraine will not be united, it is a million percent, and everyone understands that this is the place of the king of half the country, it will not be empty. When the war ends, no matter whose victory, for a long time, there will be a very long war between each other, between the current commanders, under various pretexts. They will be accused of treason, work for the Security Service of Ukraine, the FSB and so on.

Donetsk, Lugansk hold out until winter, as Strelkov said?

Strelkov also spoke of Slavyansk. He said that they would last there for a month or two, but does that make sense? After these statements, he did not last a week, surrendering Slavyansk. Donetsk, of course, is not Slavyansk, there is more territory, Ukrainians are not fools either, or rather, those who oversee them. They will not climb into the city. They will not, as we in Grozny, let in infantry with tanks in the city, where they will be burned, burned and burned. They will be planned, area after area destroyed by artillery, “hail”, aviation. It is unlikely that they will last until the winter if there are no fundamental changes.

Tell us a few fighting episodes that you remember something.

I remember how they took the heights from Krasnodon and Izvarino. And the most memorable is the storming of a prison with Polish mercenaries. The National Guard and the reservists who were there almost immediately fled when a full-scale assault was launched. And the Poles held out. These are old Soviet prisons, they are like fortresses, with thick walls, catacombs, cellars, and the most memorable thing was to smoke out of these thirty - a dash of a hundred people. Thirty men are mercenaries, and the rest are ideological, pravoseki, contract soldiers. The Poles have two hundredth 15 left, the other three hundredth, someone whole, they managed to escape, were able to break through. You may have seen that it was shown on TV how Ukrainian soldiers in the Izvarino area cross the border and surrender. This prison was still besieged by another militia unit around the month. We have already arrived there by assault.

Our unit consisted of two reconnaissance groups, armored and artillery support, we installed the bases for the battalions of mercenaries; on the first or second day of our arrival in Ukraine, we patted the Ternopil battalion, and a week later we split the Donbas battalion, it seems. But this happened only with the help of our artillery, which entered the territory of Ukraine and already from the territory of Ukraine worked according to our coordinates.

How can you estimate the loss of the militia, the Russian military and the Ukrainian army?

If you look at the units of the Russian official structures, the Ministry of Defense, then a little, dozens. In the militia, hundreds of dead citizens of Russia, and among the militias in general, the losses roughly correspond to the losses of the Ukrainian army. That those “grads” of the city burn out, that others, and that's what you get. Just let people in a meaningless meat grinder.

Your opinion about history with "Buk" and "Boeing"?

Honestly, I found out about it already some time after the event itself. We then carried out tasks, were in a deep autonomous system, in the rear of the enemy, so I can’t say anything concrete, because I don’t know anything about it and I can’t even guess who was to blame. And that, and the other side is absolutely the same lie. Here is an example - battles for the airfield in Donetsk. Remember this destroyed truck with supposedly wounded militias? In this truck were including Russian military personnel who tried to break from this airport, and destroyed their own. I told you this so that you understand how well both ours and Ukrainians lie. So I do not presume to judge who did it. Yes, and not so important, the truth will be the one that can be proved. If the Ukrainians will be able to prove that we were shot down, then so be it, if we prove that they tried to substitute us, then we will be right.

That is, to never get to the truth in this situation?

And nobody needs it. Just needed a precedent with which you can work in the information plan. That's all.

What do you think of the militia commanders? Your opinion about them has not changed?

No, the attitude towards the Alpha commanders, Strelkov, the Vostok battalion has not changed, this is in principle adequate people. Know the Demon unit? He comes from our "office". There was a rumor such that he simply sent all the militias to **, closed from everyone and did not obey the militia at all. I'll tell you why he did it - by the way, we did the same, for the same reasons. Our division wanted to crush some elbrus, 105-izvara, which we sent to hell and said that if they come to us again, then we will simply kill them. Bes just looked at that naked, pardon the expression, bliss that they hide behind some high ideals, while they themselves trade in weapons, drugs, substitute each other because of the benefits. I didn’t want to lose people because of the whims of big bosses and other shaluponi, he killed the parliamentarians from the militia and closed himself from everyone and performs only those tasks that the Center puts before him.

All of these official faces, beards, bolotovs, pusilins, etc., do they have any power over what is happening, or is there every unit of itself a boss?

For the most part, everyone is his own boss. All these beards and others who say something in Internet videos make statements, they have power in Donetsk and Lugansk, well, maybe even in the suburbs. And in such cities as Izvarino, Krasnodon sit local princes, kings who in the coffin saw all these beards and riflemen.

Will you come back to Donbass?

Yes, we have an order. We are not militias.

Last time…

Last time I couldn’t say a lot of things, but now there is an opportunity to talk, and I saw there was enough to tell. And now the situation is difficult there, they want to end the war before winter. Therefore, it is now under pressure, and under pressure, and under pressure.

Ukraine has chances to add pressure, unless of course Russia seriously intervenes?

And Russia will not intervene, why should she? Why does she need the corpses of her soldiers and the official war? This is the most extreme case. But I tell you, this is a game, big politics. The Ukrainian side has gone, it is pushing its own interests, then the political situation has changed, ours began to crush. This is far from the end results and prerequisites for the final defeat. So they said not so long ago, 6, the number of (August - ed.), It seems that they are ready for a large-scale counterattack, although I do not believe in it, they do not have the forces and means to it, armored units. But of course if under the guise of the militia our personnel units, who have already been transferred there and who are just waiting for an order, will not act. But I think the counterattack is a bluff, when it really prepares, they do not yell at all angles.

What do you think could end this war?

Is it real? This appearance of a commander among the militiamen, who will simply shoot down half of what is now, suppress differences and act in a united front. Or under the guise of the militia will operate regular Russian units.

You described the victory of the militias, and what could stop the war and bring people to the negotiating table?

What for? It does not benefit anyone. For example, you earn good money, will you stop working if it brings you a good income? I do not think. So here, people earn good money, laundering money, drugs, weapons. Why should they stop it? He earned one, came another, also earned, a third appeared, also earned money. It also goes from an ordinary soldier to commanders and other politicians. The soldier drives the car, and he is joyful, the commander will ship a batch of weapons and drugs and earn a couple of millions, politicians work out their economic interests. So the negotiating table is unlikely, the political situation in the world should change. When saber-rattling will not be advantageous to any party.

How do you feel about the statement that the Russian “Right Sector” is now dying in the south-east of Ukraine?

There is such information that from Moscow, Kaliningrad, St. Petersburg there are such thugs who are fighting on the side of the Ukrainians. There are the same former military specialists, who for good money are fighting on the side of the Ukrainians. I will not tell you the exact place, I forgot, one of the units destroyed an entire sniper school from Russia, which was subordinate to the Ukrainian side. Somewhere in the month of June. If entire sniper schools are no longer just some ideological boys. These are experts in their field.

And the Russian nationalists who go to fight for the New Russia?

And, these morons, too, missing. Yes, just from Belarus, going to fight for the militia, but they are just ideological. Yes, the office is doing everything to stop their attempts to return to Russia, and yes, there they receive tremendous experience.

Some nationalists are fighting on the side of the militia, others are on the side of Ukraine, but are the Russian special services interested in not returning either one or the other?

I do not presume to speak for the special services, whether it is profitable for them or not, it is fraught. But this is hardly profitable, why does the state need this instability.
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  1. Yellow white
    Yellow white 2 September 2014 14: 22
    +97
    Who are you, Rybakov Andrey and who are you "plowing" for?
    There are questions for you ...
    1. viktorrymar
      viktorrymar 2 September 2014 14: 26
      +53
      Yeah, I liked it especially
      What unit were you in the Donbas?

      I can not tell you.

      DNR or LC?

      It was a division of the Russian Ministry of Defense, let's say.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 2 September 2014 14: 40
        +90
        You sound! Set of waste of life activities on the fan! The commandos says what Ehi, Lies, and other nonhumans repeat! wassat I do not believe... laughing

        Talked Rybakov Andrei specifically for the almanac "Art of War"

        One of the latest materials from this special correspondent! One can assume hu from hu!

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        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 2 September 2014 15: 06
          +51
          Quote: Sid.74
          One of the latest materials from this special correspondent! One can assume hu from hu!

          That's not all! The frame has a facebook! Https: //www.facebook.com/andrybakoff

          I read what our maydanutny patient is interested in and a wonderful miracle!

          TV channel RAIN, Anticommunism, Journalism without intermediaries ", Bukovsky, Vladimir Konstantinovich, Alliance Francaise, 55 Arts Club, Drang Nach Osten, Anti-Socialism Anti-Communism Anti-Marxism, RLN.FM, Russian Fable, National Democracy in Russia, Vesti days from Dmitry Kiselev, New York City Kendo Club, Okrem hundred "Krim", RASHKA - SQUARE JACKET and 103 more

          Liberals on the count !!! Death .. and hunger from a lack of parmesan !!! am How I hate you liberals! No words! Dumb Maidan herd!
          1. Spnsr
            Spnsr 2 September 2014 16: 13
            +4
            Quote: Sid.74
            Quote: Sid.74
            One of the latest materials from this special correspondent! One can assume hu from hu!

            That's not all! The frame has a facebook! Https: //www.facebook.com/andrybakoff

            I read what our maydanutny patient is interested in and a wonderful miracle!

            TV channel RAIN, Anticommunism, Journalism without intermediaries ", Bukovsky, Vladimir Konstantinovich, Alliance Francaise, 55 Arts Club, Drang Nach Osten, Anti-Socialism Anti-Communism Anti-Marxism, RLN.FM, Russian Fable, National Democracy in Russia, Vesti days from Dmitry Kiselev, New York City Kendo Club, Okrem hundred "Krim", RASHKA - SQUARE JACKET and 103 more

            Liberals on the count !!! Death .. and hunger from a lack of parmesan !!! am How I hate you liberals! No words! Dumb Maidan herd!

            AND THIS HIKES A FACE of a bang who is friends with his imagination
          2. Privat
            Privat 2 September 2014 19: 23
            +12
            Moderators!
            How did this stinking agitation of the 5th column get here ???
            1. Zhekson
              Zhekson 2 September 2014 22: 30
              +3
              well thanks guys for revealing this petersonn! I am now sure that this is a free throw!
              And it straightened me a little ...
            2. CALL.
              CALL. 4 September 2014 19: 47
              +2
              Quote: Private
              Moderators!
              How did this stinking agitation of the 5th column get here ???

              Sometimes it’s necessary to read a lie with a banderlozh. Not everyone is proving to each other which of us is a greater patriot? Often go to their sites, banter over them. I really like when they squeal like piglets, feeling their inferiority.
          3. Zhekson
            Zhekson 2 September 2014 22: 28
            +1
            Live such a slogan, relevant. Plus definitely !!! soldier
        2. Nikolav
          Nikolav 2 September 2014 16: 32
          +17
          Question. It is not clear that the fighter claims to be working for the Moscow Region. Is it possible that now experts are simply hired in the underpass without any non-disclosure instruction, etc.? Or is it the idle fiction of a sales journalist? The resource from which this interview is taken is quite serious. And the interview is like a fake, more inherent in the censor. The riddle ...
          1. avg
            avg 2 September 2014 18: 18
            +9
            Bad, unprofessionally made fake. I would have guessed to invite a military consultant, but apparently I regretted the money. I decided that they’re doing it.
            In general, they have been phoning something lately, "Crimean women are daughters of officers," they are probably tired. yes
            1. Arhj
              Arhj 2 September 2014 21: 55
              +3
              Quote: avg
              Bad, unprofessionally made fake. I would have guessed to invite a military consultant, but apparently I regretted the money. I decided that they’re doing it.
              In general, they have been phoning something lately, "Crimean women are daughters of officers," they are probably tired. yes

              And here even military experts are not needed. Money is issued in cash and every week, and even in the hands of commanders. They did not hear about plastic cards. So they provoke the commander to theft, and the fighter to desertion. Who wants to fight with full pockets of money, at the risk of dying even without a guarantee that the money will reach at least relatives.
          2. berkut2123
            berkut2123 3 September 2014 08: 14
            0
            "Office" is what and when it is necessary and will allow you to say.
          3. Hort
            Hort 3 September 2014 09: 26
            +2
            here, too, the question immediately arises - if a special forces soldier, and even remembers the office, no, no, and then he tells things about which it is not recommended to remember even before their official mention, what kind of fighter is this?

            Conclusion: the journalist riveted an article from fantasies, rumors and that small fraction of half-truths that he probably heard somewhere out of the corner of his ear
            1. Vedmed_23
              Vedmed_23 5 September 2014 10: 47
              +1
              A spetsnaz soldier says not "office" but "service". The office is the FSB and not the Ministry of Defense, the article is an obvious crap.
        3. sgazeev
          sgazeev 2 September 2014 18: 03
          +4
          Quote: Sid.74
          You sound! Set of waste of life activities on the fan! The commandos says what Ehi, Lies, and other nonhumans repeat! wassat I do not believe... laughing

          Talked Rybakov Andrei specifically for the almanac "Art of War"

          One of the latest materials from this special correspondent! One can assume hu from hu!

          Russian special forces on the war in the Donbass: smuggling, looting, mess
          Sobkor Almanac Andrey Rybakov from Kiev. Territory of Sorrow
          Sobkor Almanac Andrei Rybakov from the Crimea. The point of view of the Crimean Tatars
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          Almanac correspondent Andrey Rybakov from Perevalnoye. Strange "war"
          Almanac correspondent Andrey Rybakov from Odessa. "Why are you doing it?"
          Estonians and Ukrainians from AdvanFort Marine PMC are still in Indian prison
          Sobkor Almanac Andrei Rybakov. Revolutionary graffiti on the approaches to Grushevsky
          Sobkor Almanac Andrey Rybakov from Kiev. Revolution motor
          Sobkor Almanac Andrey Rybakov from Kiev. Armed neutrality
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          Almanac correspondent Andrey Rybakov from Kiev. Interview with "Afghans" of the Maidan
          Sobkor Almanac Andrey Rybakov from Kiev. The assault of the Ukrainian house
          Sobkor Almanac Andrey Rybakov from Kiev. On Grushevsky on the night of January 25
          Sobkor Almanac Andrey Rybakov from Kiev. First impressions. 24 January

          Bullshit: gunned down, drugs, special forces, autonomy-picked up, peled. Crap. fool fool
        4. kryuger.mark
          kryuger.mark 2 September 2014 18: 05
          +4
          Clearly, the Cossack mishandled.
        5. Iline
          Iline 2 September 2014 18: 26
          +12
          Nothing strange. A little truth, well, right with a teaspoon, and a barrel of misinformation. This works on people who have driven some ideas into their heads. The usual information war, nothing personal.
          The correspondent comrade honestly works out money, only, apparently, does not believe in the afterlife. And there everyone is rewarded according to his deeds.
        6. The comment was deleted.
      2. vrach
        vrach 2 September 2014 15: 23
        +14
        Yes, I agree, there are a lot of frauds and fakes in the text, to the truth a fair portion of lies - he has a female prison, then a colony, these are completely different types of correctional facilities. Unambiguously, we can only talk about the colony, it is necessary to bring the author there on an excursion - what catabombs? What are the thick walls in the Soviet version? in the warm climate of Ukraine? Only barracks, a thorn, and towers, and a stink.
        1. papas-57
          papas-57 2 September 2014 16: 27
          +12
          `` Yes, yes, I agree, there are a lot of frames and fakes in the text, to the truth there is a fair amount of lies. '' The Ukrainians want to prove by all available means that they are fighting the Russian army in order to write off their defeats and losses. I would not be surprised if the US State Department provides this article as proof of the participation of Russian troops in the war in Ukraine, and Psaki will solemnly announce this without providing other evidence. And the worse things are for Ukrainians, the more such stuffing of disinformation will be.
          1. ren1999
            ren1999 2 September 2014 18: 08
            +11
            I read to the monetary allowance. On the hands of the fighting. Bullshit. It's disgusting to read nonsense.

            I don’t know, I don’t want to get dirty, read on.
      3. DMB-88
        DMB-88 2 September 2014 16: 12
        +19
        In any conflict, in any war, there are special services and special forces of third interested countries from both sides of the conflict. And on the part of Russia it would be foolish not to do this in the double!
        1. My address
          My address 2 September 2014 17: 23
          +10
          Right.

          And the performance is not professional and designed for non-employees. negative

          The military will never say "... STRUCTURAL (!) Unit ..." (answer to the question "What struck you the most ...") fool . This is a purely civilian production expression. Moreover, for the level of the head of the site and above. And the interviewee is supposedly an ordinary corporal sergeant.

          And what is this "intelligence unit training center" in the 58th Army (see the answer to the first question)? Only the senior assistant of the junior cook could blurt out this laughing , bowing out in front of the girls after the demobil.

          And nothing about the fighting. But to the place and out of place the mention of units and theft. You would think that no lower than the major tongue flutters. After all, where did the sergeant (at best) get such information? Only from a camel. wassat
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 2 September 2014 18: 12
            +9
            Quote: My address
            And the performance is not professional and designed for non-employees.
            The approach is very professional. As an ideological diversion. Much has been described correctly; without truth, no one would have believed this. But it is calculated on civilians, you correctly noticed. hi
      4. REDBLUE
        REDBLUE 2 September 2014 17: 17
        +14
        Here is a real setup. From the beginning I can’t then the Ministry of Defense. If he had been mines of defense, he would have been silent in a rag. Ordinary people will not be sent to the task. And the special will always be silent.
        1. asar
          asar 2 September 2014 18: 27
          +4
          I agree! Bullshit!
      5. serega73
        serega73 2 September 2014 18: 58
        +5
        and I "liked" the words of this fighter "when the West is driven financially into a corner ....." I can't believe that an ordinary man of war can say that. I could just say without any frills ... they threw it at the grandmother. Lazha, all this. Such is the feeling ...
      6. DMB-88
        DMB-88 2 September 2014 19: 40
        +4
        True information is sometimes useful:
        A grandmother is sitting in the market, selling apples. “Apples, apples from Chernobyl! The man says, “You, granny, be quiet that they are from Chernobyl, someone will take them from you. "Take my dear, who is the boss, who is mother-in-law!"
        laughing
      7. yushch
        yushch 2 September 2014 22: 08
        +2
        Guys, I read this liver already somewhere more than a month ago.
        Frank bullshit.
    2. Little Muck
      Little Muck 2 September 2014 14: 28
      +17
      On the way, another "officer's daughter" appeared.
      Well, maybe not the topic, but still another review of the map and pleasant comments on it.
      1. Cetegg
        Cetegg 2 September 2014 14: 39
        +26
        Yesterday, all Russian special forces were involved in the destruction of an alien invasion!) So Russian special forces could not be located on the territory of the LPR or DPR!) So I have proof))) ... and in the best traditions of the State Department, I got my "proofs" in social networks!)
        1. Gado
          Gado 3 September 2014 00: 44
          +5
          And I thought that all the special forces of Russia had long perished in the fields of the South-East of Ukraine. But, apparently, at least one survived. Right.
          1. izGOI
            izGOI 5 September 2014 00: 17
            0
            Quote: Gado
            one survived. Correct.

            This is the one who, grabbing two daggers from behind, managed to fight off the SBU. And all the rest, either fell, or tied.
    3. volot-voin
      volot-voin 2 September 2014 14: 37
      +22
      Quote: Black and White
      Who are you, Rybakov Andrey and who are you "plowing" for?
      There are questions for you ...

      A real warrior from an office or Army of the Russian Federation would not star too much. Some kind of plausible stuffing.
      1. andranick
        andranick 2 September 2014 15: 25
        +23
        What's the truthlike"? He is not LIKE the truth. This stuffing is trueVARIOUS, i.e. stuffing in the image of truth.
        And rotten. Slyly, using known and desired facts, quite concrete thoughts are being introduced into the minds of readers, and quite so boorishly, insolently, "like a drill."
      2. Rostislav
        Rostislav 2 September 2014 15: 41
        +11
        Well, about "plausible" I would doubt that another "officer's daughter" will pull somewhere by 3 minus. I especially liked the passage about the reasons why the Ukrainians do not present the available evidence of the participation of the Russian military in hostilities.
        Rather, these bastards would have always been reassured.
        1. My address
          My address 2 September 2014 17: 38
          +6
          +++ To you, Rostislav. hi

          I ask you to see my comm. a little higher. It's bullshit. At first I was struck by the "STRUCTURAL (!) Subdivision", after which I read it more carefully and pribbaldel.
      3. smart Fox
        smart Fox 2 September 2014 16: 53
        +10
        Which, however, talkative special forces went.
    4. mivmim
      mivmim 2 September 2014 14: 39
      +7
      He won’t answer anything, he didn’t give such powers to the State Department. A simple mishandled bitch.
    5. cosmos111
      cosmos111 2 September 2014 14: 50
      +10
      Quote: Black and White
      Rybakov Andrey and on whom do you "plow"?


      it is known to whom: the sect of kurginyan ...

      and the revelations of the "special forces", complete nonsense ...
    6. PiP
      PiP 2 September 2014 14: 56
      +5
      Quote: Black and White
      Who are you, Rybakov Andrey and who are you "plowing" for?

      http://navoine.info/rybakov-andrei.html
      Pay attention to the list of articles and their contents of this "author" ...
      https://www.facebook.com/andrybakoff
      facebook page
    7. Cadet787
      Cadet787 2 September 2014 14: 59
      +27
      Everything is clear with the article and the fact that it is custom-made and provocative, minus, the other is not clear how it got to the site of a respected publication, what’s the question?
      1. Constanta
        Constanta 2 September 2014 15: 28
        +6
        So I wonder - how ?!
      2. tverskoi77
        tverskoi77 2 September 2014 15: 28
        +1
        how did she get to the site of a respected publication
        the "publication" also needs marketing and analysis)
      3. ABV
        ABV 2 September 2014 16: 09
        +7
        Quote: Cadet787
        Everything is clear with the article and the fact that it is custom-made and provocative, minus, the other is not clear how it got to the site of a respected publication, what’s the question?

        And she got it right and thanks to the moderators. You need to know everything, see and understand everything. And about such stuffing, you also need to know. Yes, and the article was posted not for the red words, but for our forum, including ... I didn’t minus it myself, I don’t know ... I don’t know yet ... we minus it’s not specifically the article, but the author, who says his opinion trying, just what?
      4. shershen
        shershen 2 September 2014 16: 13
        +3
        Yes, a muddy little article. An attempt to spread defeatist sentiment.
      5. DMB-88
        DMB-88 2 September 2014 18: 28
        +5
        Quote: Cadet787
        Everything is clear with the article and the fact that it is custom-made and provocative,


        And why did you all shout?
        1) There are a lot of flashes of the presence of Russian citizens in the conflict.
        2) On the part of Russia, it would be stupid, but rather even a crime, not to use special services on the side of New Russia. (The leaders of New Russia constantly thank Russia for their help and support)
        3) Alexander Ivanovich Strelkov-Girkin, FSB colonel. (It’s a shame to remind about the former, We have a former colonel president)
        4) About looting and other crimes was known in early summer, when being in Slaviansk Strelkov introduced the death penalty !!!

        Py-Sy. Knowing is silent, no need to shout out of business, We have 10 federal channels for this! bully
        1. Dali
          Dali 5 September 2014 12: 49
          0
          Duck and you, sir, as I see, do not be silent ...

          Now, just what do you want to say all this? Become very true? Or what?

          By the way, since your registration, 1058 comments ... this is more than 17 a day, without days off and holidays ...

          YoYo ... you have nothing to do? Whose salary are you doing here ... huh ?! Isn't the "enlightened west" paying you ?!
      6. sledgehammer
        sledgehammer 2 September 2014 19: 46
        +2
        what does it mean? There are moderators on the site, they are sent by readers of VO, they skip articles. First they glance, then they publish. Perhaps the moderator himself (and) found the article on the Internet and published it.
    8. I am human
      I am human 2 September 2014 15: 19
      0
      He is from the Psakinsky team ... He uses news "verified" on the Internet from ward 6
    9. fktrcfylhn61
      fktrcfylhn61 2 September 2014 15: 48
      +1
      Yes, the author, natural dril !!!
    10. Giant thought
      Giant thought 2 September 2014 16: 39
      +2
      Foldingly sings. But a little, it seems, is still replaying.
    11. FASO
      FASO 2 September 2014 16: 46
      +2
      Yes, this goat !!! Plows on shit !!
      1. 23 region
        23 region 2 September 2014 20: 57
        +1
        Quote: FASO
        Yes, this goat !!! Plows on shit !!


        What unit were you in the Donbas?

        I can not tell you.

        DNR or LC?

        It was a division of the Russian Ministry of Defense, let's say.

        And here is the superhero himself
    12. patap
      patap 2 September 2014 17: 36
      +4
      from the very beginning the lack of logic. then terminated the contract, then in the division of the Russian Federation. whoever took it with a torn contract to the unit ... lies from beginning to end. ponadadergo anyhow. the journalist is crooked and good.
    13. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 2 September 2014 17: 51
      +2
      It would not hurt the FSB to pinch this Rybakov (or maybe Rybalko), all this is not only "fake" but also a provocation! Well, neither the junta, nor its western masters have any facts about the participation of our Armed Forces in the war, so they are trying to create the appearance of the participation of the Russian Armed Forces in the events in Donbass by means of these "throw-ins"! Yes, this is not a special forces soldier at all, but some kind of punks, apparently one of the "refugees" thrown into Russia to conduct hostile propaganda! In general, it would be necessary to deal with the refugees more specifically, it seems that among them there are agents of the national gadov and citizens of Ukraine who, under the guise of refugees, rushed to Russia in search of "easy money", this becomes evident from their impudent behavior, like: you owe us, and what are you obliged !? Rescued, sheltered, and then look for work and feed your families! All these are links in one chain: the information war against Russia is in full swing!
      1. not good
        not good 2 September 2014 18: 43
        +2
        It is necessary to read Rybakov, if only because after his fantasies you begin to be more critical of other authors. But, it is also necessary to bring such authors to "clean water" in order to think about what they are fooling.
        1. Constanta
          Constanta 2 September 2014 20: 24
          +2
          I’m reading such Rybakovs and on other sites. And here, as I still consider a serious site, I want to hear sound adequate analytics, and the same comments.
      2. kvm11
        kvm11 3 September 2014 18: 54
        +1
        I completely agree with the opinion / kartalovkolya / this provocation.
    14. Ramzaj99
      Ramzaj99 2 September 2014 18: 48
      0
      C censor copied! Well, say what to get from another resource! And do not try to pass for clever ....
    15. Nick
      Nick 2 September 2014 21: 59
      0
      Quote: Black and White
      Who are you, Rybakov Andrey and who are you "plowing" for?

      He plows the loot. Magazine in one word ...
    16. Zhekson
      Zhekson 2 September 2014 22: 26
      +1
      What is the title of the article? Liberasty climb into all the cracks ???
      What does this cormorant say about the office? What office is he talking about ?? American?
      What is this about the commanders and the money spun, a balabol horseradish. Fighter of the invisible front. I would like you and your brother, who just might be responsible for the special forces, would have pulled out his legs.
      Most likely the article was invented or this Petersen sold money for the soul and those who were next to it.
      not for nothing is afraid of life.
    17. Koltsov norm
      Koltsov norm 2 September 2014 23: 22
      +1
      Almanac "Art of War", which plows fishermen andrey - this is - I quote from their website http://navoine.info/about-us.html"... Almanac was primarily conceived in order to psychological rehabilitation of veterans after the hardships and deprivation in the war. Almanach is a unique project. Amazingly, on the pages of the publication there were people who fought against each other, and now trying to understand the essence and causes of those wars. "
      There's a lot more in the about us section. I think this fisherman is a librarian of the Makarevich type, and the above interview is a journalistic interpretation of a psychologist's conversation with a shell-shocked person during some local war. About people like fishermen and an underground soldier of some secret unit, my grandson says "my uncle is clearly ill." And seriously ...!
    18. kondor-espada
      kondor-espada 3 September 2014 06: 54
      0
      That's because they give birth to people like this fisherman - then suffer with them ........ the enemy of the Mlyn people ...
    19. Skif83
      Skif83 4 September 2014 21: 58
      0
      Looks like a "sent Cossack". For a specialist to say this to the public ... bullshit.
      Wrong people.
      And the Americans themselves would have already ringed.
      ... at a time when President Obama says that this is beyond doubt, the US State Department officials at the same time as their president say that the United States does not have any evidence of the presence of the Russian military in Ukraine.


      Article - PROVOCATION! Entogo fisherman to the nail!
  2. mig31
    mig31 2 September 2014 14: 23
    +22
    Scary to read. Who is Andrei Rybakov ???, who paid him ???, maybe he is a Calomean ???
    1. GUKTU92
      GUKTU92 2 September 2014 18: 14
      +4
      The interview was invented by "Andrey Rybakov" from beginning to end! And questions and answers to them! There is no "special forces", this is the "Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus". In the text there is a huge amount of non-docking and obvious nonsense, superficial knowledge of elementary things can be traced. To analyze laziness - for rubbish, not "interview".
      1. sledgehammer
        sledgehammer 2 September 2014 19: 53
        +1
        it is ridiculous to read about drugs in particular)) for whom and where are the drugs supplied if they are supplied? they gathered all drug addicts directly from Russia, Ukraine, other countries, gave them money and said - we will supply you drugs and you buy them with the money that we gave you))
  3. 2sila
    2sila 2 September 2014 14: 24
    +26
    Anonymous, bespontovaya, canoe.
    1. Combitor
      Combitor 2 September 2014 14: 47
      +9
      Quote: 2sila
      Anonymous, bespontovaya, canoe.

      But after this "baida" "Censor" will explode. For its inhabitants, it is like manna from heaven.
      Is it really possible to make stuff like this "interview" on "VO"?
  4. shyler
    shyler 2 September 2014 14: 24
    +18
    What nonsense ??? Provocation of another patient on his head!
    1. MBA78
      MBA78 2 September 2014 17: 02
      0
      or shell-shocked militia ...
  5. Anisim1977
    Anisim1977 2 September 2014 14: 26
    +5
    I do not believe in the reality of this character and what type he wrote.
    An article in the style of "Putin-leaked", only about Novorossov. hi
    1. Styx
      Styx 2 September 2014 15: 13
      +2
      I, too, do not believe in this nonsense, for the same comrade N. has told me the other day everything is accurate wink . Here or someone is trying to cheat or one of two. wassat
  6. Imperialkolorad
    Imperialkolorad 2 September 2014 14: 27
    +14
    Very similar to the stuffing.
  7. Turik
    Turik 2 September 2014 14: 28
    +20
    What the fuck is this for disa?

    He went to war voluntarily, driven by patriotic feelings, by order and...


    How is this to be understood? Admins are you drunk there or what? Again a selection of trash from "Caesor"?
    Then why literally?

    Only go there DOB-RO-VOL-Tsy!
    Whoever disagrees with this is a pest, an enemy of the people and a Georgian spy.
    1. dazefex
      dazefex 2 September 2014 15: 29
      +2
      ))))))))) and not a day has passed
  8. Tima
    Tima 2 September 2014 14: 28
    +10
    Some crap !!!
  9. Yellow white
    Yellow white 2 September 2014 14: 29
    +36
    Moderators, please remove this guano from the site of Russian patriots!
    1. code54
      code54 2 September 2014 15: 02
      +10
      Keep!
    2. Styx
      Styx 2 September 2014 15: 24
      +7
      Ninada delete anything !! There will be no one to joke at all, boring! I'm so cool to read how they twist the inside out. The work of the entire Amerov machine of desa is simply amazing, as they, benny ones, sweat, turning everything upside down. It’s time for them to stock up on baby powder, otherwise they will get all the fucked up from such an assiduous exertion and the skin will climb into scraps. Runoff to work, runoff work tirelessly, or rather without taking your asses !!! wassat
      1. Constanta
        Constanta 3 September 2014 07: 28
        0
        So what, now from around I-net to drag such mura to a reputable site? Troll crawled into admins angry
  10. mikki1701
    mikki1701 2 September 2014 14: 29
    +6
    The provocateur is not a special forces soldier, but KOZLINA Rybakov brings this nonsense to the public. It is a pity that this special forces soldier didn’t come across the militia, they taught the UROD to mind.
    1. kergudu straight
      kergudu straight 2 September 2014 14: 43
      +1
      So his surname is actually Andersen "Pamela Andersen" from the battalion "Lyazhka and Girlfriends"
  11. bmv04636
    bmv04636 2 September 2014 14: 31
    +6
    As for equipment and weapons, she assures all that the Ukrainian has not yet transferred to dill. Ensigns Zadova and do not drag her across the border. If our real specialists were caught, they would be shown as paratroopers, and it looks like he is sculpting a hunchback.
  12. fzr1000
    fzr1000 2 September 2014 14: 33
    -23
    Everything on 90% is true. Prose of war, if you like.
    About marauding of militias at least. I don’t want to comment on the rest, but it’s better to remove the article from the site, but not because of lies, but because of the un-truthful truth and indirect confirmation of the participation of the RF Armed Forces in the conflict. Although she is already, for sure, most of the fiercely will not like it here.


    Therefore, I support-desa, stuffing, provocation, BOB.
    1. volot-voin
      volot-voin 2 September 2014 14: 49
      +12
      Quote: fzr1000
      Everything on 90% is true. Prose of war, if you like.

      Even so, the real warrior will not talk too much.
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 2 September 2014 14: 56
        -10
        Of course. But all people are different, even "real warriors".
        Answer your simple question - the results of recent events (upholding of Lugansk, Donetsk, a breakthrough to Mariupol), a huge amount of equipment that you need to not only be able to manage, but also direct - the result of increased militia training, as well as the emergence of unexpected reserves from local ones that have turned in a few weeks in well-coordinated units? And all these RDG raids? Also from the locals who served in the SA?
        Yes, it's not even babble.
        1. blind
          blind 2 September 2014 16: 40
          +4
          Well, duck and our volunteers in Serbia also fought well
        2. sledgehammer
          sledgehammer 2 September 2014 20: 01
          0
          Yes, even if so, then I am very pleased with the result laughing no matter who is hammering dill, militias or "green men", the main thing is that they are driven back to Kiev. In general, I think in Kiev it is necessary to put a Kremlin puppet and not a pro-Western one. If Poroshenko does not agree to dance to the tune of Putin and the Kremlin, the hostilities will be postponed in other regions of Ukraine. Correctly Zhirinovsky in Crimea said recently - it is necessary to release the people from prisons and send them to Ukraine, they will plow it all up to Lviv, just not to go back to prison!
    2. Homo
      Homo 2 September 2014 14: 49
      +11
      Quote: fzr1000
      Everything is 90% true.

      You were there? When, where, with which of the militia fought? Without answers to these questions, you are as much a racket as the author of the article!
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 2 September 2014 14: 54
        -17
        Filter the bazaar, uncle.
        1. someone
          someone 2 September 2014 14: 59
          +16
          Filter the bazaar, uncle.


          Charge your brains, uncle. You can, snickers, you can eatomarin, whatever.


          It says "You ** d" on the fence. Do you believe?
          The article is in exactly the same, fence style. I think it was written in an hour, without the participation of "Mr. N". The author has filled his hand on such nonsense a long time ago.
          1. fzr1000
            fzr1000 2 September 2014 15: 01
            -4
            This is your opinion. Just not be rude.
            1. someone
              someone 2 September 2014 15: 24
              +7
              Yes, purely my personal opinion. I want to note that I was not in the Donbass, I did not fight in the ranks of the militias. I draw all the information from the maximum number of sources.

              ZY Rudeness is the prerogative of the "Censor". Here cultured people have gathered. This is by the way of "filtering the bazaar", for your note.
            2. Ayujak
              Ayujak 2 September 2014 15: 35
              +10
              You have empty speculations. Before you state anything, provide the facts. This "military" one raises many questions. Even dill, ardent adherents of the idea of ​​"Russian" occupation, cannot provide any facts. And the presence of such large units could in no way have been noticed by the same Ukrainians, and even more so by the Yankees, who hung at least several satellites over the outskirts.

              Where are the facts ?!
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 2 September 2014 18: 30
            0
            Quote: someone
            It says "You ** d" on the fence. Do you believe?
            Do you believe that there are no scumbags among the militias? There are, and a lot. But we don’t need to talk about them, because there are scumbags everywhere! And in the US Army, and in ours. Every coin has a downside. But only the other is usually hidden. And here, on the contrary, they stick out, and with intent. The article is an ideological provocation, and it’s competent.
            Quote: someone
            Filter the bazaar, uncle.
            Charge your brains, uncle. You can, snickers, you can eatomarin, whatever.
            How did a person deserve such treatment? Do not fit into the framework of opinion? Do not slide down to the level of the Censor. Rudeness does not paint anyone. hi
            1. Constanta
              Constanta 3 September 2014 07: 33
              0
              ... The article is an ideological provocation, and it’s competent.


              Well, you are bent! .. Designed for those who ride. laughing
        2. Styx
          Styx 2 September 2014 15: 27
          +4
          The daughter of the officer who picked up the password? Shaggy tear !! angry
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    4. Rostislav
      Rostislav 2 September 2014 15: 47
      +3
      What, the fact of the article for "indirect confirmation" to accept? What nonsense? Psaka gives out a bunch of such "confirmations" at every briefing. Maybe stop looking for a black cat in a dark room? Six months of splashing saliva instead of evidence is not enough for you?
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 2 September 2014 15: 55
        -5
        Well, I didn’t expect such a clinic on the site I respect. Sheer tantrums and grievances, but it seems like everyone is so sophisticated, who have seen a lot ...
        Ok, I leave you with dreams that all men in Russia and the Donbass in a short time turn into military professionals, among whom it will NEVER be possible to find the marginal types described above. And also that in this war the politicians from our side act exclusively for the sake of "reuniting the Slavs."

        It is not even funny.
        1. ABV
          ABV 2 September 2014 20: 44
          0
          yes, unfortunately, for a long time already there has been a "drift" towards the "censor" ..... which thread "EAGLE" will throw in a stupid slogan and htoy did not immediately support minus ..... although it seems earlier, when there were less frostbites , the forum was conceived FOR EXCHANGE OF OPINIONS, and not following certain dogmas in the fairway ....
          1. Dali
            Dali 5 September 2014 18: 10
            0
            Sorry of course))) But if there is a drift towards the censor, you should be banned for a long time.
    5. Imperial
      Imperial 2 September 2014 15: 50
      +8
      Everything on 90% is true. Prose of war, if you like.
      I know Syrozhia died yesterday)) but only prose provocateurs write prose, and trolls like this [media = http: //ic.pics.livejournal.com/bobik_57/26995045/1272378/1272378_600.jpg]
      1. Styx
        Styx 2 September 2014 16: 02
        +1
        laughing good class, giggled heartily!
    6. Luga
      Luga 2 September 2014 17: 07
      +3
      Quote: fzr1000
      Everything on 90% is true. Prose of war, if you like.
      About marauding of militias at least. I don’t want to comment on the rest, but it’s better to remove the article from the site, but not because of lies, but because of the un-truthful truth and indirect confirmation of the participation of the RF Armed Forces in the conflict. Although she is already, for sure, most of the fiercely will not like it here.


      Therefore, I support-desa, stuffing, provocation, BOB.


      I agree with you. Personally, from the very beginning I presented the situation in Little Russia very close to what we reproduced in this article. It is simply impossible to imagine that such vile fish would not start in such muddy water. The vacuum of power generates and not so. Most of those who comment on this article here perceive it for some reason as a whole, while it is replete with numerous facts that can and should be considered in isolation from each other. I’ll try now to dismember this stuffing into theses according to the principle I believe - I do not believe. So.

      Name. "Smuggling, looting, mess". Who doubts that all this is there? There are such? The question is different: the war is certainly not limited to these definitions. There is also valor, patriotism, courage. Why did the author limit himself to only "mess", etc.? Provocation.

      Introduction. Nothing to say. Maybe the truth, maybe not, maybe both.

      Interviewee Biography. There are doubts. If you want to save incognito, a person begins to talk about his past, which in this case is not related to the topic of the interview. No I do not believe.

      Further, it is more convenient to analyze not by text, but by abstracts put forward by the interviewee.

      1. The units of the Russian Ministry of Defense participate in the war.
      2. The level of combat capability of the militias corresponds to the national level and is inferior to mercenaries.
      3. Among the militias there are both disciplined (regular) units (few) and "Makhnovist" freemen (the majority).
      4. Both sides of the conflict (Russia and the West) are not interested in divulging the truth about this conflict, therefore, they are also silent about its significant and significant circumstances.
      5. Looting and smuggling are very widespread.
      6. Russia supplies equipment and weapons to Little Russia, but a significant part of it, more than half, "dissolves" at the border.
      7. There are conflicts between the "Makhnovist" and "regular" groups of the militia, it comes to shooting and liquidation.
      8. MLRS attacks on residential areas are carried out by both sides.
      9. The final victory of the militias is possible only if the regular units of the Russian Ministry of Defense act on their behalf.

      Personally, I have SIGNIFICANT doubts only points 6 and 8. I do not believe in this. Rather, on the sixth point, if only a little, very little. In principle, MANPADS can go somewhere in Iraq. But not armored personnel carriers, Grady or T-72. On the eighth point I do not believe unequivocally - there is no point in the militias to cover their houses with "hail" or "tornado".

      The rest is all very plausible and explains a lot. And the shameful trampling of dill in front of men with shotguns in March-April-May and the decisions of our military-political leadership in the same period, American unproven tantrums and the current successful offensive ...

      So in vain the article is minusanuli. In my opinion, there is more truth in it than lies, only the name is provocative, but you should not give in to provocation. wink
      1. ren1999
        ren1999 2 September 2014 18: 17
        +6
        No, fellow countryman, you can pour a bucket of truth or half truth to introduce only one small, nasty lie and it will work. Therefore, the whole article is dirty.
        1. Luga
          Luga 2 September 2014 19: 01
          -2
          That is, "fly in the ointment" spoils everything for you? Not sure if this is the correct approach.
          Even if we are dealing with a provocateur (and I'm not sure about this), putting a stamp on him and spitting only when mentioning his name is not worth it, because that's exactly how radicals such as Ukrainian banderlogs are born. Labeled - bad - so we don’t read and don’t look. Good - we read and believe. And turn on your head every time - oh well, mischief, all this and liberalism.

          Patriotism implies love for one’s Fatherland, for the way it really is, and not for the way we want to see it. And then some, including on this resource, drew a perfect picture for themselves and consider everything that does not fit into it as hostile and unpatriotic.
          1. Dali
            Dali 5 September 2014 18: 18
            0
            Unfortunately, this article is "not a fly in the ointment", and not less than half ...

            And where is the evidence, Mr. Luga, where ... evidence in the studio ... awww !!!

            But I have a little other information, the mess was at the beginning, and then it could not but be, and then it was very difficult ... and now the situation is completely different !!!
        2. Styx
          Styx 2 September 2014 20: 19
          +6
          worse and worse than only half truth, I support! wink and in this article, more than anything else
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 2 September 2014 18: 36
        -2
        Quote: Luga
        I’ll try now to dismember this stuffing into theses according to the principle I believe - I do not believe. So.
        Huge to you +! Very competent layout of the article. The rest of the majority have only emotions. good
        1. Dali
          Dali 5 September 2014 18: 21
          0
          And you Mr. Ingvar ...
          And where is the evidence, where ... the evidence in the studio ... awww !!!
      3. turanchox
        turanchox 4 September 2014 07: 05
        -2
        I completely agree, it’s a shame to behave like sheep, recklessly trusting our media and taunting information that does not correspond to what is desired by the sofa urya-patriotic hamsters
        1. Dali
          Dali 5 September 2014 18: 21
          0
          And you, Mr. Turanchox ...
          And where is the evidence, where ... the evidence in the studio ... awww !!!
  13. Good cat
    Good cat 2 September 2014 14: 36
    +9
    100 percent stuffing. Even if there would be such a person, if everything would be true, then what kind of ram, especially the former commando would spread about it?
    1. pv1005
      pv1005 2 September 2014 14: 58
      +3
      The coolest commandos, paratroopers, border guards are those who served on the subwoofer. And this one can be seen from there.
  14. VOLCHOXURAL
    VOLCHOXURAL 2 September 2014 14: 36
    +9
    If the militia is so bad, then what should the dill Nazis have, even if they happen to do so with a bang about * e *? wassat laughing
    By the way, have you heard about the dead Pskov Airborne Division? fellow wassat I rode on the floor for half an hour and couldn't laugh at the buttons on the keyboard! wassat laughing laughing
  15. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 2 September 2014 14: 36
    +6
    Alas, alas, and alas again! Absolutely implausible. But to read and conclude - maybe it’s worth the time lost.
  16. lambert
    lambert 2 September 2014 14: 36
    +11
    What a dark conversation. If he is special forces and a sergeant, then half of the delirium does not concern him, and he should not ask for the other. If he is an officer, then generally a flight of thought.
    1. Nikolav
      Nikolav 2 September 2014 16: 56
      +6
      These are American lads that they occupy a floor in the SBU, howling from boredom. They decided to have fun. How much can the vodka crack. So they gave birth. Yes, only z.o.pa cracked.
  17. ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 2 September 2014 14: 36
    +10
    What ass did this clown fall out of ?! According to the structure, content and accents of the article, it was written by a pimply nerd with a small "zhovto-blakitny" pussy in the hope of asserting himself ?! Or is it a clear provocation of our "guards" from the 5th column ?!
  18. provincial
    provincial 2 September 2014 14: 36
    +4
    "If we consider the reservists and the National Guard, then the level is similar to the militias, absolutely the same. And if we consider the battalions of mercenaries - these are" Azov "," Ternopil "," Donbass ", where all sorts of Englishmen, Frenchmen, Poles, 70 percent, probably - they yes, masters of their craft ". This stuffing - PROVOCATION.
    1. 26rus
      26rus 2 September 2014 14: 46
      +5
      Quote: provincial
      And if we consider the battalions of mercenaries - this is "Azov", "Ternopil", "Donbass", where all sorts of English, French, Poles, 70 percent, probably - then they are, yes, masters of their craft "

      Well, yes, and that is why the third set of Donbass was buried.
  19. Procrust
    Procrust 2 September 2014 14: 37
    +6
    Without such Rybakovs, they (USA) can’t justify the failures of dill ... It is clear that the linden should be oak. Well, not to the same extent.
  20. figwam
    figwam 2 September 2014 14: 37
    +5
    Andryusha go to the zopa.
  21. el.krokodil
    el.krokodil 2 September 2014 14: 39
    +5
    custom-made article .. the truth is there about the mess .. and everything else is an order of liberals and ukrov ..
    1. Moksha
      Moksha 2 September 2014 14: 51
      +1
      mess .. I would not become so categorical, I communicate with a person he was in Mariupol, talked about the inconsistency in the actions of the self-defense, that there was no one command.
      1. Executer
        Executer 2 September 2014 17: 23
        +1
        ABOUT! But sho, did they take Mariupol ?! belay Or am I missing something ... drinks
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  23. sergant6776
    sergant6776 2 September 2014 14: 41
    +3
    I couldn't even read to the end. I have no idea in what case one can believe it .... At least I would have posted my photo ... "a fighter by conviction." A smart one would not say such crap. they won't believe it anyway. And it turns out that the seed of mistrust is laid ...
  24. Dembel
    Dembel 2 September 2014 14: 41
    +8
    Well, if it's Russian special forces, then the four bodies that sang like nightingales on the Ukrainian cameras are Russian paratroopers. My eyes would not look and my ears would not hear. The other five seemed to behave like men. I would love to shake hands with such wars. As for this correspondent, I would love to tear his legs off.
  25. Sandakan
    Sandakan 2 September 2014 14: 41
    0
    The oligarchy, that Russian, that Ukrainian is actively trying to merge the people's New Russia.
    1. Gunsmith
      Gunsmith 2 September 2014 16: 20
      +1
      He felt sorry for * + *, but for some reason * vanished * - we are not guilty! .. * Minus * he came!
  26. nvb
    nvb 2 September 2014 14: 41
    +5
    Judging by his bot, he is the same commandos as I May Plisetskaya.
  27. DMB-75
    DMB-75 2 September 2014 14: 42
    +2
    ... there are shorter dismantlings, and redistribution in front, only ordinary people are sorry, they die without knowing why! what
  28. Vend
    Vend 2 September 2014 14: 43
    +15
    In fact, specialists of this class and profile do not shake their tongues. So the article smacks of rot. And how beautifully it was conceived, they hid the name for obvious reasons. Well, yes, the reasons are understandable, because by name and surname you can find a person and it may turn out that he did not tell anyone. And you have to answer for the article, in all severity wink Obloms came out from provocateurs, they no longer know how else to brainwash Russians for zombies laughing Forum users, be careful, the enemy does not sleep.
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 2 September 2014 14: 48
      +1
      and what class is it? urgent, a contract-dismissal for breaking .. and? there are plenty of such people in the country. plus the image of this warrior is at least fictitious
      1. Vend
        Vend 2 September 2014 15: 13
        +7
        Quote: Gleb
        and what class is it? urgent, a contract-dismissal for breaking .. and? there are plenty of such people in the country. plus the image of this warrior is at least fictitious

        Have you ever communicated with the military from special forces? You can't get the word out of these guys with ticks. I talked with those who were in Angola, Nigeria, Chechnya, Afghanistan, they are little talkative, you can casually find out where he fought. But never about the details. So, what am I talking about? Would this image not be fictional short would be an interview laughing
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 2 September 2014 15: 19
          +2
          I myself have served in such units for many years, and your communication with some Angolans and Chechens will give me nothing.
          I asked what class he was? the fact that he served on a term in the 16th brigade is a reason to talk about the class? or is it from the area "Our paratroopers could not surrender ... something muddy story ... yes they are heroes!"
          it’s just that if he served there and there, then it means already like REX
          1. Vend
            Vend 2 September 2014 15: 29
            0
            Quote: Gleb
            I myself have served in such units for many years, and your communication with some Angolans and Chechens will give me nothing.
            I asked what class he was? the fact that he served on a term in the 16th brigade is a reason to talk about the class? or is it from the area "Our paratroopers could not surrender ... something muddy story ... yes they are heroes!"
            it’s just that if he served there and there, then it means already like REX

            And you want to say that the military from special forces are not higher than the class, compared with the military from the infantry? Well, if you yourself served in such units. What do you want to say that you are ready to talk about the missions you are carrying out in an interview like this?
  29. Moksha
    Moksha 2 September 2014 14: 43
    +7
    Like yesterday, I read the article and without reading your comments, then I will read you with pleasure. He is very versatile, this unnamed intercessor, he is tactically strong and is not a mistake in a big economic war. In vain he wipes his pants in the "special forces". Kohl "his state" surrenders, let him down to the west, he will very competently decompose everything, what and when to expect from the GDP. Cossack - exiled. I'd like to end with the phrase of one of Tabakov's heroes: "Captain! We've seen this one in Khimki. I sold wooden dicks on the market!"
    1. vvdmitriyvv
      vvdmitriyvv 5 September 2014 15: 20
      0
      and here you are all looking at the blinders stuck on your eyes and it seems to you that in Ukraine soldiers are giving flowers to women, ice cream to children ... this war has never been and never will be! And since the kings were lazy, or they just got sick that they stopped leading their squads into battle, and the wars became bloodier, and there was no real sense in them - either personal ambitions, or someone's wallet, or just a lot of blood ... then the real one is OURS! I would like the commander-in-chief to put an end to the lawlessness - I would kick out the fifth column in the ass, and gouge the United States, and not drive would handle! you can say a lot - we haven't accumulated strength, we haven't finished the reform ... AND NEVER FINISHED !!!! This is utopia and fear of responsibility! Technologies are constantly evolving and you can't keep up with them! Large-scale wars always require maximum mobilization of forces, no matter how much "fat" the country has accumulated! And what is happening in Ukraine - the redistribution of spheres of influence, and the genocide organized by the United States, and Russia, no matter how hard they tried to hide it - is dragged into it for obvious reasons - this is a fact that you just need to accept! for 20 years the United States prepared a sophisticated trap for us, "made an offer from which we cannot refuse" ...
  30. saag
    saag 2 September 2014 14: 44
    +2
    What's not to like? Mao also said - "The rifle gives rise to power", that during the civil gangs in Ukraine there were no, and that nowadays the golden calf prevents all this from being?
  31. kit-kat
    kit-kat 2 September 2014 14: 44
    0
    What kind of nonsense?
  32. Hleb
    Hleb 2 September 2014 14: 45
    +3
    ok so to cheer up)
    90 thousand a week! This is clearly the dill price tag set) and for the rest
  33. code54
    code54 2 September 2014 14: 45
    +1
    It's not too lazy to compose such nonsense! Or in Ukrainian schools, from the first days of school, children were charged to write something like that and send it to everyone on the Internet ... "And you will be happy" letter ... But it was not the child who apparently composed.
  34. AndreyS
    AndreyS 2 September 2014 14: 45
    +10
    Forgive me, of course, for a rude word, but this is a complete x .... nya sucked from a finger. I read the article and the feeling seemed to have come in g.no. This author would be counted for a lie. I will never believe in my life that I don’t have combat experience (I did not participate in direct clashes.) will be sent to the war zone on the territory of another state (there is a pennant for this) and what kind of new school is this - He studied at the center for the training of intelligence units.. The article is written for those who do not understand anything at all in the tactics of using special forces, but know it from films (second-rate) and the same little books.
    1. vvdmitriyvv
      vvdmitriyvv 5 September 2014 14: 57
      0
      you would think that in the cube all such experienced warriors were ... balabol ...
  35. mivmim
    mivmim 2 September 2014 14: 46
    +9
    Moderators, soon half of the articles will be provocative. What does the site turn into?
  36. KsenofoB
    KsenofoB 2 September 2014 14: 46
    +2
    Etozh with what office so talkative COTTON?
    PS Bullshit !!!
  37. ale-x
    ale-x 2 September 2014 14: 46
    0
    These are dreamers .....
  38. pexotinec
    pexotinec 2 September 2014 14: 47
    +3
    Part of the truth is I myself have come across many cases of marauding and shot for it. The rest is a beautiful narration of the author. Yes, not some commando who respects himself will not bother journalists. The author is fantastic at the time.
  39. muginov2015
    muginov2015 2 September 2014 14: 47
    0
    HOWEVER ... and how to understand THIS?
  40. Noki51177
    Noki51177 2 September 2014 14: 48
    +4
    I read up to 70% of the mercenaries in volunteer battalions and finally became convinced that this is an essay on a free theme. :)
  41. Sailor
    Sailor 2 September 2014 14: 48
    +1
    Yes, the truth is always hard to perceive, before I assumed what was happening there, and now I have seen this.
    1. Dali
      Dali 5 September 2014 18: 32
      0
      And you Mr. Sailor Black Sea Fleet ...
      And where is the evidence, where ... the evidence in the studio ... awww !!!

      Have you even read the comments ?! Have you written at least one reasonable argument against ?!

      And many here have given so many reasons that the article is stuffed ... which is no longer necessary! Well, at least one of you is smart, understanding, at least somehow tried to refute !!!

      And such articles without any evidence, I can instantly scribble a dozen ...

      They even gave a list of articles by the "enty" author and a list of topics and info-resources that he prefers ... is that not enough for you ?!

      Or maybe you are from the same gang-watering ?!
      1. vvdmitriyvv
        vvdmitriyvv 8 September 2014 14: 45
        0
        well ka !!! where are the arguments that this stuffing ??? Have no one ever ratted money in the country? maybe intrigues, earnings on blood in military conflicts never happened? Or no one has ever sold weapons? no one ever drunk in the war? And the lists of articles - shove yourself "in the lowest shelf", tk. talking about a specific article! There is not a single worthwhile refutation or argument to challenge this article! Everything is based not even on the spirit of patriotism, but on an unbridled love for the existing government, which many of those present here confuse with love for the Motherland! You will learn from the reports of the media to throw out empty goods and agitprop! And today the facts are that now business in Russia is being taken away from the Urainian oligarchs - once, a turmoil began in Donbas after the annexation of Crimea, where many Ukrainian oligarchs had not only businesses, but also estates! - two! Many of our oligarchs have business in Donbas, which has been under threat since the beginning of the conflict! - three! Few facts? or the mind is not enough to put the chain together! At the expense of the volunteers' earnings 50000-100000 rubles per week, depending on the position held, 300-400 tons. wound, about 1200t.r. for death - what I was personally voiced by the guys who returned from there! The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation pays, the truth is, of course, I do not know anything about the origin of these funds, and hardly anyone will be able to tell you about this - whether it is budget money or money of the oligarchs (which is most likely) ... War is always dirt and a tangle of intrigues, for which young guys willy-nilly pay with their blood! And this is not a slander or provocation - this is a fact that must be accepted and taken into account when making decisions! If you want to help your brothers and earn extra money for one thing - be prepared for the fact that you are used and thrown away as waste material! Few chtoli of disabled people of armed conflicts are lying under the fence today? If you are brave and self-confident - a flag in your hands and a machine gun under your arm! And if you dream that you can jump into hell and not fry - sit at home on the couch and do not twitch better - then your hour has not yet struck!
  42. pahom54
    pahom54 2 September 2014 14: 48
    +1
    Throwing and provocation. There’s nothing to say ... The work is purely on the USA and NATO, and on krajina ...
  43. Eugenenl
    Eugenenl 2 September 2014 14: 49
    +1
    All this is nonsense ... A frank stuffing in all positions ... Confirmation of everything that Ukraine is lying, a little smoothed out, "adapted" for the Russian reader.

    Quote: Black and White
    Moderators, please remove this guano from the site of Russian patriots!


    SUPPORT!
    1. mervino2007
      mervino2007 3 September 2014 00: 49
      +2
      To know the whole picture of a phenomenon, different and opposite opinions are needed.
      1. Constanta
        Constanta 3 September 2014 07: 58
        +1
        But this article is not the opposite opinion, but a cobbled scribble, for some reason supported by the site. But it’s not an obvious misinformation, but really, I would read the opposite opinion.
  44. frcdkfl047
    frcdkfl047 2 September 2014 14: 49
    +1
    Gamnyuk said, and laid out the second gamnyuk! It is sometimes necessary to switch the toggle switch "head" - "ass"!
    1. dsi777
      dsi777 2 September 2014 15: 42
      +1
      There wasn’t the first shit laughing Do you know which series? When the maydanuty runs out of arguments, he says: "An acquaintance of mine lives in Moscow. He told me what chaos in Russia is."
      The truth is that he has no acquaintance. He composed himself, but for the sake of persuasion he hides behind acquaintances. You won’t check it laughing And this article is from the same series.
  45. Doznanied
    Doznanied 2 September 2014 14: 51
    +6
    Military Review, are you not ashamed to post IT on your website?
  46. Old Cynic
    Old Cynic 2 September 2014 14: 52
    +10
    Speaking of looting and smuggling, tell us what the scale of these phenomena?

    Here is an example. There is such an organization "Oplot", they probably heard. When they were standing in Snezhniy and Dmitrovka, there were general alcoholism, drug addiction and looting. People were taken away on the street of their cars, things. Often came to the killings. It's about people. You know, money is a good measure of a person: whatever he may be in words, when he gets a lot of money or gets the opportunity to earn a lot of money, he changes right before his eyes. In general, looting is present and very common. He is well fought in Lugansk and Donetsk.




    3,14-dit, like Trotsky!
    I have a brother in the Bastion, says a lot. Remember my post about how the soldier’s teeth were shaken for collecting 50 hryvnias from people for travel. My brother is not a fool to drink, but, he says, the prohibition is so strict that right up to disarmament and a kick in the ass.

    Conclusion - this article is a provocation of pure water!
    1. Buran
      Buran 2 September 2014 16: 04
      +2
      It can be decomposed for each item if it were an article. Stuffing, for some reason missed by the moderator.
  47. Stiletto
    Stiletto 2 September 2014 14: 53
    +4
    An article is a lie ... and a provocation.
    1. vvdmitriyvv
      vvdmitriyvv 5 September 2014 12: 12
      0
      what exactly? lies and provocation? There is nothing supernatural in this article - big uncles play with big toys! so it has been since the days when the princes stopped going on campaigns personally ... or do you have doubts that the "captured in battles" equipment from Rostov? or doubts about the shelling of the Ukrainian forces by our batteries? - Don `t doubt! if you want to make sure you go on a business trip for a month instead of a vacation! (just don't say you don't know how - yes, the seeker will find it) 2 weeks of training at the military base, crossing the border as part of a tank battalion and you already learn the secrets of political intrigue!
  48. MIV999
    MIV999 2 September 2014 14: 53
    +13
    Au, moderator?! ... Is this site still considered Russian? ... Or did you just leave the RU domain as a souvenir (forgot to change to UA)? ... In the last half hour, something has changed a lot and we are on the page, media owned by Kolomoisky? ...
    If I wanted to shit on Russia, on the people of Donbass, and even do it as efficiently as possible, then I would choose just this path - I would introduce myself as a special forces officer who had just “returned” from the front ... And already as an “eyewitness” "I would tell everything in such a way that any reader will only draw conclusions about the complete insanity of the militia, about criminals in the power of Donbass, about alcohol-narcotics and other" manias "of Novorossia ...
    This article spit on Russia, including ...
    IMHO, this material should just work out together with its author ... And no longer engage in provocations in the style of "believe me, I live in Crimea, the daughter of an officer" (c)
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 3 September 2014 01: 40
      +2
      Quote: MIV999
      And no longer engage in provocations

      Yes, this is not a provocation at all .. Check for vigilance! "The enemy is awake, soldiers!" So what, what are the couches? request
      wink
    2. vvdmitriyvv
      vvdmitriyvv 5 September 2014 13: 01
      0
      And what do you really think that there are no drunks? or are we all in charge of chikipuki? maybe during a military conflict there is an outrage on both sides? or does it happen that the cuckoo of all of titanium and it does not blow anyone and never? then you know very little about life! or you just don't like when against wool? Just because you’re the daughter of an officer doesn’t mean that dad tells you everything! and moreover does not mean that he owns all the information! And I believe the author of the article, because I heard a lot of what was said from friends who returned from there! and what’s going on in hot spots, I perfectly imagine - the first Chechnya is the war of my brother’s generation, the second - my generation, and now this ...
  49. bmv04636
    bmv04636 2 September 2014 14: 53
    +1
    On the territory of Ukraine, I admit that private security companies can participate in fights since until the PMCs are formed, I admit that there may be military men, but former ones. I also admit that they can be provided with logistic and intelligence assistance
    1. vvdmitriyvv
      vvdmitriyvv 5 September 2014 11: 26
      0
      and artillery support is a myth in your opinion? but for me this is not a myth - I found out about this a month ago, when my friends returned from there ... as for military support for the resistance of the Donbas - a fact! Nya and Europium are not in vain throwing sanctions on!
  50. shitovmg
    shitovmg 2 September 2014 14: 54
    +3
    Civil war is a muddy water. It is not known what the hell are in it ... Well, a training ground for all stripes!