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We will not get anywhere, we will be brothers. On the development of imperialist war in civil

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Here, some citizens are perplexed and outraged, looking at the behavior of representatives of our residual cultural elite from the 90's, acting as allies of the gay Kiev government. “As they could, we listened to them, read them,” the citizens ask.

And so it could.

It is quite normal for them.

And not the first time.

And in order to understand why this is so, one must understand one simple thing, like a stool. Ukraine is only at the level of hysterical, not rooted neither in reality, nor even in the subconscious of Ukrainian svidomo citizens of slogans, with a kind of “separate education” with “separate movoy” and “separate culture”. For any serious pro-Russian, anti-Russian forces and players on the “world chessboard” - yes, there, even for the majority of western inhabitants, Ukraine is culturally, economically, mentally, and somehow is part of Pax Russica. And the whole essence of the geopolitical situation, which plays in real tanchiki and combat airplanes on this unfortunate land, was very well characterized by a certain V.I. Lenin in the slogan that I passed in the title of this article.

If we take for granted that in the territory of the Russian Federation and the territorial-state formation Ukraine is a single geographical area inhabited by a single people, then there is nothing to be explained and nothing to be surprised: a creative singer of words with his mouth Vakarchuk is by definition closer to a creative singer of words with his mouth Makarevich. Once again: there is nothing surprising - we are one, in fact, a people. And what is happening in the Donbass is not a “Russian-Ukrainian war” or “civil war in Ukraine”: it is a civil war of the Russian people, the “hot phase” of which is now stupidly localized on the territory of the unrecognized DNR and LC. And it was precisely to this scenario of development that the “sponsors” and potential beneficiaries of this entertainment event were striving for: they simply did not succeed in Moscow.

And in Kiev - exactly the opposite.

That's the whole explanation to both Makarevich and Ulitskaya & ko, and, by the way, the request of Russian President Putin to provide a humanitarian corridor for bankrupt Ukrainian soldiers. It's just that both those and others - once again - perfectly understand that this is one people.

The conclusions, however, make different from this.

But this is - as it was ...
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  1. portoc65
    portoc65 2 September 2014 18: 36
    +6
    Galitsko Volynsky 500 years opposed the Russian world ... to change them.
    1. smolnuy
      smolnuy 2 September 2014 18: 43
      +22
      They do not need to be changed, let them step in even rows to their Europe, if they are needed there, and if they are unnecessary, then send them to the landfill of history, as Hitler was sent.
      1. supertiger21
        supertiger21 2 September 2014 18: 53
        +9
        I put a minus article, because if everything was as the author claims, then there would be no "m .... lyaku on gi..lya.ku".
        Here are the Belarusians, our brothers, and their authorities are not maydanutye like in Kiev, knowing exactly what is needed for the good of the people. That would be in Ukraine "svoy" Lukashenko, then everything would be fine, but they would not even think about the Maidan. smile
        1. 23 region
          23 region 2 September 2014 19: 14
          +2
          Quote: supertiger21
          I put a minus article, because if everything was as the author claims, then there would be no "m .... lyaku on gi..lya.ku".
          Here Belarusians are brothers to us, and their authorities are not Maidan like in Kiev, they know exactly what is needed for the good of the people. If Ukraine had "own" Lukashenko, then everything would be fine and they wouldn’t even think about the Maidan. smile
        2. DV69
          DV69 2 September 2014 20: 39
          +8
          Quote: supertiger21
          I put a minus article, because if everything was as the author claims, then there would be no "m .... lyaku on gi..lya.ku".
          Here are the Belarusians, our brothers, and their authorities are not maydanutye like in Kiev, knowing exactly what is needed for the good of the people. That would be in Ukraine "svoy" Lukashenko, then everything would be fine, but they would not even think about the Maidan. smile


          23 years old, and this is almost a whole generation, anti-Russian sentiment reigned in Ukraine. People who were born in 1991 are now 23, but there are also those who were 91 years old, two, three, etc. Can you imagine this mass of duped people?
          And what has Russia been doing all this time? She sold gas at a discount, she was silent when the Bandera scum killed our soldiers in Chechnya and Georgia.
          That is why a whole generation has grown up confident that you can behave with your brothers as you like, and you will not be anything but different benefits.
          Therefore, all these chants, about "m .... lyaku on gi..lya.ku".
          So we are to blame for everything ourselves.
          And about Lukashenko, how did the President of Belarus support fraternal Russia in its recognition of the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia? And how does the President of Belarus sell diesel fuel to Ukraine today for "harvesting"?
          1. I do not care
            I do not care 2 September 2014 21: 48
            +26
            Quote: DV69
            a whole generation has grown up confident that you can behave with your brothers as you like, and you will not be anything but different benefits.



            not so grown there

            I want to tell you a story about the Young Self-Defense battalion. This battalion was formed in Lysychansk, Luhansk region. It includes boys and girls from 16 to 18 years old who are fighting against the Ukrainian army. The battalion was formed by teenagers from the cities of Lisichansk and Severodonetsk. One of these teenagers is Yaroslav Voskoenko, I think you have already heard about him more than once ... And they formed him because they did not take the guys into the militia (they only took them from the age of 18), and they really wanted to defend their hometown! So the guys got the idea to gather their own battalion, the number of which was 72 people: 24 of them were girls. In the last battles for Lisichansk, unfortunately, many were killed, and only 54 people remained ... The battalion showed courage and heroism more than once. When the Ukrainian army came close to Lisichansk, the "Phantom" battalion of Alexei Mozgovoy left the city. And the city remained under the control of only self-defense: 72 teenagers against 2 people of the National Guard ... The National Guard could not take the city, they ironed everything that was: "grads", "tornadoes", mortars, howitzers - they wanted to take the city in 000 hours, but it was not there! The Defense Forces were able to keep the city under control for two days, in the hope that there would be help from Lugansk ... The teenagers were armed with AK assault rifles, TT pistols, 2 machine guns, and 3 sniper SVDs. They were able to destroy several dozen national guardsmen and their equipment in two days: 2 infantry fighting vehicles, 2 armored personnel carrier and 1 Grad installations. They stood to death, with machine guns against tanks ... And when they realized that there would be no help, they began to retreat towards Alchevsk. During the retreat, they were covered with "hailstones", 2 people were killed ... These are the teenagers who are fighting, and I pray for them every day ... The 18-year-old men who left Donbass should be ashamed!
            1. DV69
              DV69 2 September 2014 21: 59
              +1
              Quote: me by


              not everyone there grew up like that


              This gives hope for the future.
          2. Vitaly72
            Vitaly72 3 September 2014 00: 10
            0
            I’ll let you disagree with you. I’m personally not to blame for the fact that they are such stupid people, and as for the drugged generation, they were the same in the Soviet army
          3. Suhow
            Suhow 3 September 2014 00: 21
            0
            By the way, diesel and gasoline are also going to the harvest too. And for the war, Ukraine will put fuel and Europe on credit and interest for it.
        3. Cadet787
          Cadet787 2 September 2014 21: 19
          +2
          Near Rodakovo, a column of Ukrainian invaders is broken
          02.09.2014 - 16: 28

          This morning at 7:00 in the triangle of the settlements of Rodakovo, Yuryevka, Belenkoye, reconnaissance of the defenders of the Donbass discovered an accumulation of equipment, vehicles with personnel and a convoy that were located in the green planting for passage towards Rodakovo.
          It was decided to attack. At 7:10, the artillery mounts began shelling the enemy, the Novorossiya agency reports. The enemy column was completely defeated. Losses are being clarified.
          There are no losses among the Cossacks of the Great Don Army. The battle was led by Pavel Dremov ("Dad").
        4. Kushadasov
          Kushadasov 3 September 2014 08: 24
          0
          Have you thought well about Lukashenko?
      2. DMB-88
        DMB-88 2 September 2014 18: 56
        +27
        We are like three sisters in one apartment. Russia is the eldest, Belarus is the youngest, clever and hardworking, well, Ukraine is beautiful, but fucked up, every three years there is a divorce, a maidan, a new man ...
        Well, they put up with it - dear, but then the Negro brought it into the house, they say love was with them, he promised a beautiful life in Europe - glamor, but for now we need to register it with us and make a room for him, well, of course, we understand that this is a con man living space is breeding, we are trying to interfere, so she - a dumb dumb family, refused to consider us enemies, she thinks we are envious of her happiness with a black man.
        So we think, whether a whore, or an idiot ...
        From the site http://www.inpearls.ru/
        1. supertiger21
          supertiger21 2 September 2014 19: 06
          +5
          Quote: DMB-88
          We are like three sisters in one apartment. Russia is the eldest, Belarus is the youngest, clever and hardworking, well, Ukraine is beautiful, but fucked up, every three years there is a divorce, a maidan, a new man ...
          Well, they put up with it - dear, but then the Negro brought it into the house, they say love was with them, he promised a beautiful life in Europe - glamor, but for now we need to register it with us and make a room for him, well, of course, we understand that this is a con man living space is breeding, we are trying to interfere, so she - a dumb dumb family, refused to consider us enemies, she thinks we are envious of her happiness with a black man.
          So we think, whether a whore, or an idiot ...
          From the site http://www.inpearls.ru/


          Respect! To the point of analogy with family life! good good good
          + from me!
        2. vsoltan
          vsoltan 2 September 2014 19: 35
          +2
          Poet and only. A plus! The images are excellent ...
          1. DMB-88
            DMB-88 2 September 2014 20: 06
            +6
            And here's another remind !!!!

            TITARENKO-MAESTRO: How did you not notice? But today we fought over my Ukraine ... ... I can fly this route a hundred years later without a map ... Because the whole grave of our guys is singing along the whole route ... and there’s more than one squadron, there ... the division lay down!
        3. uge.garik
          uge.garik 2 September 2014 19: 41
          +4
          ... listen to Zin, don’t touch the brother-in-law ..! - which is not, and he is a relative ..!
        4. 70BSN
          70BSN 2 September 2014 19: 46
          +5
          test descriptions good Ukraine as in real b .... still TA !!! and in general it is necessary to make RUSSIA a closed country again, all the same, a large% of people living in RUSSIA just live without going to the geyevropka .......
        5. Suhow
          Suhow 3 September 2014 00: 25
          0
          only not all (children) support this x ... yu.
    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 2 September 2014 19: 18
      0
      The Russian world must defend its own, but we do not need a stranger. Here let all the strangers fail from us.
    3. lelyk72
      lelyk72 2 September 2014 22: 26
      0
      The Galician-Volhynian opposed, as you say, solely because and at the time when they were occupied by all kinds of Hungarian Poles. And yourself, never.
  2. Comintern
    Comintern 2 September 2014 18: 38
    +2
    Is that with New Russia
  3. smolnuy
    smolnuy 2 September 2014 18: 40
    +4
    We will not be brothers with the Nazis, they have no nationality - they are zombifashists.
  4. Little Lost
    Little Lost 2 September 2014 18: 44
    +6
    Quote: portoc65
    Galitsko Volny 500 years opposed the Russian world ... they can not be changed.

    Isolate? Goblin Nature Reserve. Let the tails of pigs untwist in the direction of Europe. On the pasture.
    1. portoc65
      portoc65 2 September 2014 18: 49
      +2
      This is what Novorossia is doing right now.
  5. mamont5
    mamont5 2 September 2014 18: 49
    +9
    You can be offended and minus me, but after all that has happened, those who perform under the zhovto-blakit "Down" rag will not be Russian brothers.
    1. portoc65
      portoc65 2 September 2014 18: 52
      +4
      Quote: mamont5
      You can be offended and minus me, but after all that has happened, those who perform under the zhovto-blakit "Down" rag will not be Russian brothers.

      Quote: mamont5
      You can be offended and minus me, but after all that has happened, those who perform under the zhovto-blakit "Down" rag will not be Russian brothers.
      Russian is not a nationality but a state of mind .. well, Bandera and Maydauns do not have this state ..
  6. komrad.klim
    komrad.klim 2 September 2014 18: 55
    0
    shaggy zombie-b. We will never be brothers.
  7. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 2 September 2014 19: 13
    +5
    I give this article a bold minus. First, you cannot generalize the people. Everyone is different among the people. Now the majority of the Ukrainian people are the same Germans in the days of Hitler, only not so comfortable, hence with a thirst for prosperity here and now. They were told that if you defeat the Russian mercenaries, now a stream of pretty little cars will rush to you, build houses like in Germany, you will eat oysters coveted by Mrs. Sobchak and instead of dirty socks you will smell exquisite Roquefort cheese, and now they are not grieving about that. that their children are killing women and children in the Donbass. but that the bad generals give them little weapons and food. Another part of the people is scared and is waiting for how it will all end. Remember, as in Mayakovsky's "We are philistines, you put your shoes on us, and we are already for your power." And the third part, who have not exterminated the thirst for justice, forcing them to take up arms against the usurpers. There is also crime. who catches a fish in troubled waters. Also in Russia. There are people who are fighting for justice, there is a silent majority and there are simply honest people without pretensions who give shelter to Ukrainian refugees. It turns out that our societies are different. Considering this, in view of the support of Ukraine by our enemies from NATO. those who are fighting against the Donbass are our enemies and Makarevich "pushed" them.
    1. terrible
      terrible 2 September 2014 19: 42
      +3
      "Germans" - say. German mothers also sent their sons to the Eastern Front with songs and dances. Admonished, "kill more Untermenshes." And the Ukrop Frau keep up with them. As soon as they forgot the stsuki, the Germans finished. And the children were buried, and then they parted their legs behind a can of carcass. ))))
  8. Signaller
    Signaller 2 September 2014 19: 28
    +2
    Yes, no. All this is from a series of the USSR agitprop. When all people are brothers, and we are their older brother. As soon as the USSR was over it all began. They are about hunger and this and that, we are immediately talking about Shushkevich with Bender and the forest brothers. In the USSR, all this was artificially hushed up. Like brothers, then yes. And now everything has come out. And what little brothers are here. ???? Ghouls no more.
  9. uge.garik
    uge.garik 2 September 2014 19: 48
    0
    break through ... and determine - who, what is worth and what who IS!
  10. Valentine77 64
    Valentine77 64 2 September 2014 19: 55
    +2
    I never considered zapadentsev brothers. How much I heard in childhood from my father, who served with them and other people I respect, how many watched films about this polunation. I will never recognize Zapadentsev as brothers.
    And he got this rotten beau monde. I remember in the 90s, these sang the song "Boris, let's for an encore", well..lizy x..y. Now they want intercession at GDP.
    Tv .. if the world is not curved.
  11. tomcat117
    tomcat117 2 September 2014 19: 56
    +1
    We’ll clean everything up with salt, we’ll teach the rest to love the Motherland again!
    1. Privat
      Privat 3 September 2014 07: 58
      +1
      With our unpredictable and asymmetric answers, we will bring the psyche of the "partners" to complete cognitive dissonance * !!! wassat

      ---------------
      * - All meanings of this term can be clarified at Lurkmore.
  12. Stinger
    Stinger 2 September 2014 20: 27
    +1
    Brothers in blood are only bedbugs.
    1. portoc65
      portoc65 2 September 2014 20: 45
      0
      And the blood sisters are kamarihi.
  13. 020205
    020205 2 September 2014 20: 35
    +1
    Ukrainians in all their diversity, from Lviv, Kiev, Lugansk will never be brothers to me! And even if we make peace with them and they come to work for us, I will trust a Jew more than any other Ukrainian!
    1. portoc65
      portoc65 2 September 2014 20: 42
      +5
      Do not confuse the current Ukrainians and who has a Ukrainian passport .. I was born in Ukraine but more Russian than many Russians
      1. shuhartred
        shuhartred 2 September 2014 23: 15
        0
        Quote: portoc65
        but more Russian than many Russians

        Interestingly, and what units of measurement do you measure your "Russianness"? Be careful with such statements.
        1. portoc65
          portoc65 3 September 2014 12: 31
          0
          State of mind brother .. Russian and Russian. Do not confuse .. you are Russian .. and I am Russian
          1. shuhartred
            shuhartred 3 September 2014 18: 17
            0
            Quote: portoc65
            . don’t confuse .. you are Russian .. and I am Russian

            Why did you decide that I am Russian? I’ll ask without insults, this word infuriates me at all. I am Russian like you. You can’t be Russian more or less, or you are Russian, or not, and ethnicity does not matter here. In general, you messed up the first. So they would have written that it’s more Russian than many Russians. And then you got butter butter. hi
  14. Serg7281
    Serg7281 2 September 2014 20: 57
    +1
    Vlasov was also Russian, but this did not prevent him from becoming a traitor. Relatives betray, and the one who betrayed once will not stop and will betray at every opportunity. Now we are talking about how to reason with the "unreasonable" and flog the "not happy".
  15. terrible
    terrible 2 September 2014 21: 09
    +3
    Ukrainians are brothers)))) I’m fucking kindred, I’ll be the best orphan !!!
  16. Russian soldier
    Russian soldier 2 September 2014 21: 25
    +1
    In the coffin I saw such brothers, in white slippers !!! angry
  17. Straight
    Straight 2 September 2014 21: 46
    +5
    Maybe so - a civil war between the Russians who betrayed their ancestors and history, all those millions who gave their lives for their homeland, and those who remain faithful to their homeland and ancestors under any conditions. After all, we are all Russian, since our source is one - Kievan Rus. It turns out that they are Russian Ukrainians. These geeks raised a hand against the Russian people, raising the fascist-Bandera banners for the servile right to pick up crumbs from the lordly table of Europe. They thought that the Russian spirit is no longer in Ukraine, but miscalculated ... The Russian Spirit is alive! And he is our main, the most powerful weapon in the world!
  18. Alfizik
    Alfizik 2 September 2014 22: 47
    0
    "And it was precisely for this scenario of the development of events that the 'sponsors' and potential beneficiaries of this entertainment event were striving: they just did not succeed in Moscow."

    The article is good, to the point. Thanks to the author. One "no": not "sponsors aspired", but sponsors "found" their own beneficiaries appointed by Destiny. Every nation has its own heroes and traitors. Heroes are for society, traitors are always against the power that represents society. The number and "quality" of traitors is determined by Providence.
  19. boomerang.
    boomerang. 3 September 2014 00: 06
    +1
    Otto von Bismarck:
    “The power of Russia can only be undermined by separating Ukraine from it ... it is necessary not only to tear off, but also to oppose Ukraine to Russia, to pit two parts of a single people and watch how a brother will kill his brother. To do this, you only need to find and nurture traitors among the national elite and, with their help, change the identity of one part of the great people to such an extent that they will hate everything Russian, hate their kind, without realizing it. Everything else is a matter of time. ” The Ukrainization program was launched by Austria-Hungary at the end of the 1898th century, and it was based on the re-identification of the Little Russians and Galician Ruthenians into the so-called “Ukrainians.” In 1926, the idea of ​​creating an “independent Ukrainian nation” within the framework of autonomy on the territory of Austria was launched in Germany -Hungary. In the Vienna-controlled press, instead of the concepts “Russia”, “Russian”, the terms “Ukraine”, “Ukrainian”, etc. began to be replicated. In the memoirs of General Hoffmann in 1918 you can read: “The creation of Ukraine is not the result of the initiative of the Russian people, but the result of my intelligence. ” And here is the opinion of the French consul Emil Enot (XNUMX): “Ukraine has never had its own history and national distinctiveness. It was created by the Germans.
    .... von Bismarck, who actively supported, among other things, the development of the Ukrainian language. Adolf Schiklgruber (Hitler) acted in a similar manner to Bismarck, in which the Ukrainian “sections” were reborn into the structures of the UNA-UPA-UNSO.

    http://russophobia.net/61

    Who invented Ukraine http://topwar.ru/33202-kto-pridumal-ukrainu.html
  20. boomerang.
    boomerang. 3 September 2014 00: 31
    +1
    But what he said about those whom Bismarck created, This is what I understand about Galicia, since then there was no other Ukraine.
    German Chancellor Otto von Bismarck once said: “There is nothing more vile and disgusting than the so-called“ Ukrainians ”! This rabble, nurtured by the Poles from the most vile scum of the Russian people (killers, careerists, reptiles before the power of the intelligentsia), is ready to kill their own father and mother for power and a profitable place! These geeks are ready to tear apart their fellow tribesmen, and not even for the sake of profit, but for the sake of satisfying their base instincts, for them there is nothing sacred, betrayal is the norm of life for them, they are wretched by the mind, malicious, envious, cunning with a special cunning. These nonhumans have absorbed all the worst and basest things from Russians, Poles, and Austrians, there is no place left for good qualities in their souls. Most of all they hate their benefactors, those who have done good to them and are ready to grovel in front of the powers that be. They are not adapted to anything and can only do primitive work, they could never create their own state, many countries drove them like a ball throughout Europe, slave instincts have eaten into them so much that they covered their whole essence with disgusting ulcers! ”
  21. melnik
    melnik 3 September 2014 00: 50
    0
    The article is correct. There have been attempts and are now continuing to separate the Russian Cossacks into a separate ethnic group, there are twenty people left, indigenous, without a batch. There, you see, some Krivichs who are more Slavs than others will be determined. It is necessary to fight for one's own people. Ukrainianism, so it should be called this phenomenon, is sectarianism. With all the attributes of a totalitarian sect. What to do? And what we’re doing now is to beat the clue, until all the nonsense has flown out. There are already successes, little children are already holding drawings, uncles presidents, make peace! And just three months have passed since the adults started to straighten their brains. There is every chance of recovery
  22. melnik
    melnik 3 September 2014 00: 56
    0
    I’ll add, for a long time it was necessary ... to give! There, with the Georgians, again, almost brothers, we are playing in KVN, but all we had to do was neatly, but strongly give in the forehead
  23. PValery53
    PValery53 3 September 2014 03: 24
    0
    There is no need to rush to "brothers" now. Climb into the arms of those who wish to send you "to Gilyak"? - Thank you, I don’t want to. First, let them atone for their guilt by long and diligent labor. - And ... "to freedom - with a clear conscience." The old political elite of Ukraine (which cultivates Russophobia), of course, needs to be put somewhere. And to educate a new one, not a prostitute, but confidently walking alongside Russia. In general, as in Germany there was de-Nazification, so in Ukraine there should be de-banderization.
  24. Alexander I
    Alexander I 3 September 2014 04: 30
    +2
    I didn’t like the article. I put a bold minus. What kind of brothers they came with weapons in their hands to beat. Brothers do not come with weapons.
  25. Alexander I
    Alexander I 3 September 2014 04: 40
    +2
    Junta on the eve of the collapse. Another one or two weeks of continuation of the offensive forces of the Resistance of New Russia, and there can be no talk of any parliamentary elections on October 26 - let God keep Kiev by this time. Accordingly, Poroshenko’s time is running out. In order to stabilize his position within the clans of the junta, he urgently needs at least a temporary truce with Novorossia in order to a) bring down its offensive potential; b) regroup army units, National Guard forces and territorial battalions; c) complete the next wave of mobilization; d) relieve tensions within junta clans over a very unpleasant political outlook, and win elections to the parliament in the wake of a new offensive by junta troops.

    If Poroshenko turns this simple combination, he will get a temporary respite and the only chance that he will manage to retain the presidency. If not, if the respite forces of the Resistance do not allow him, they refuse to negotiate and continue to develop their offensive, as a result of which in September the military operations will go beyond the borders of Donetsk and Lugansk regions and spread to Zaporizhia, Kharkiv, Kherson, Nikolaev and Dnipropetrovsk regions, then holding parliamentary elections is out of the question, as well as the continuation of the presidency of Poroshenko - he will be “eaten up” by himself, with the result that that part of the outskirts, which is under the rule of the neo-fascist junta, plunges into the eye a significant political, organizational and economic crisis.
  26. andrew42
    andrew42 3 September 2014 08: 35
    +3
    We'll have to separate the lambs from the wolves. We're not going anywhere from this. To repulse people who want to live in the Russian world, calling themselves Ukrainians, is stupid to do so. It is stupid and dangerous for ourselves. A people left without mental allies is a candidate for the dustbin of history. Like a hundred years ago, one will have to distinguish between who is a "Russian Ukrainian" and who is a "corrupt pseudo-Ukrainian". Self-identification is a serious thing, and violence here always leads to a negative result. Two Ukrainians are the only reasonable and logical path. One is "pro-Russian", the other is "Bandera". The first is destroyed, but with growth prospects and real independence. The second is the one that has overcome the Soviet potential and is begging on the euro-trash heap, which the junta will put under anyone, just to cut the credit tranches. And what the pro-Russian Ukraine will be called - let the people decide for themselves who they are now.
  27. Loner_53
    Loner_53 3 September 2014 13: 37
    0
    I wonder what my grandfather would say? The captain of the NKVD, wounded in western Ukraine, if I had called Bendera’s brother with him? I probably wouldn’t have time to ooop. Something we often started breathing in again with these (brothers) am
  28. Earnest
    Earnest 3 September 2014 19: 31
    0
    Quote: Loner_53
    I wonder what my grandfather would say? The captain of the NKVD, wounded in western Ukraine, if I had called Bendera’s brother with him? I probably wouldn’t have time to ooop. Something we often started breathing in again with these (brothers) am

    He would ask you: "Do you know exactly what your father" inherited "in the city of Bender?" laughing
    Something often those who confuse geography with genealogy began to impose their opinions on us, do not you think? Bandera - a surname, Bandera - a settlement!