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Kiev’s refusal of humanitarian corridors only increases the number of senseless victims

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The militiamen are ready to provide humanitarian corridors to the Kiev security forces who are surrounded, but on condition of disarmament. The Ukrainian authorities did not accept the proposal and force their fighters to break through with the fight. Reports about it RIA News With reference to the Minister of Defense of the DPR, Vladimir Kononov.

Kiev’s refusal of humanitarian corridors only increases the number of senseless victims


Commenting on this situation, Konstantin Dolgov, the Russian Foreign Ministry’s official for human rights, tweeted: “Kiev’s unwillingness to use Gum-corridors for the withdrawal of security officials is an indicator of the real “readiness” of the authorities to save the lives of their people. ”

30 in August in response to the appeal of Vladimir Putin, the leadership of the DPR announced that it would provide an opportunity for the military to leave the encirclement, but with one condition: all heavy weapons should be surrendered. At the same time, the Minister of Defense Kononov stressed that weapon and armored vehicles must surrender in good condition, otherwise the security forces will be destroyed. This ultimatum was given to three battalions ("Kiev", "Shakhtersk", "Kherson") and brigades of the Armed Forces - 25, 23, 30, 40 and 93.

However, according to Kononov, the security forces are trying to break the conditions. “There were precedents when the Donbass battalion hung white flags, we sent buses to them for transportation, and they opened fire. We responded, opened fire, and then defeated this battalion "- quotes the words of the Minister "Russia-24". As a result, about a hundred people were captured.

Most of the survivors believe that the command of their betrayed. “Yes, we were abandoned just surrounded. Then we tried to get out of it, fought, we were fired. In all, we were 300 – 350 people. There are a little more than a hundred. ”- said the prisoner named Constantine.

Regarding those military personnel who accepted the ultimatum and disarmed, the militia abide by all preliminary agreements. “On August 30, I was ordered to release more than 200 people in the Starobeshevo area. After tank the convoy and infantry fighting vehicles moved to self-defense forces, we destroyed one tank and one infantry fighting vehicle, the convoy lifted the barrels up, disarmed, we released them ”- told Kononov.

According to the platoon commander of the Donetsk militia with the call sign "Pastor", the militants of the Right Sector are trying to prevent the army units from leaving the encirclement unarmed.

"We advanced to Starobeshevo with the task of taking up defense in the place from where the 93 Brigade from Dnepropetrovsk could have escaped from the boiler, previously taken into the ring- Pastor says. - But it turned out that part of the territory was under a double environment, and two infantry fighting vehicles that came to us to surrender were under fire from the Ukrainian side. ”.

He also said that one of the officers who came under fire later admitted that the Right Sector had opened fire on them. In his opinion, it was an ambush, the purpose of which was to prevent disarmament and voluntary surrender.



Meanwhile, the adviser to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Anton Gerashchenko, is enjoying something in Kiev. He tweets: "Good news from Semen Semenchenko! Just from the entourage near Ilovaisk left another 69 fighters of the Donbass battalion. ... Also 11 of the soldiers of the special battalion of the MIA "Svityaz" and 4 of the militant of the special battalion of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Dnipro-1 left the encirclement. Lists of those who have not yet come out will be summarized and published tomorrow. ”.

Channel "LifeNews" reminds that the commander of the battalion "Donbass" Semyon Semenchenko repeatedly made accusations of the country's leadership that it does not help the military in the south-east of Ukraine. “He also blames officials for the failures of his battalion. At the same time, Semenchenko himself, due to his injuries, does not take part in the combat operations of his battalion. ”, - indicated on the channel's website.
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  1. andrei332809
    andrei332809 1 September 2014 10: 26
    +13
    then fuck them until the arms are laid down. Survivors of household work, let the schools rebuild.
    1. Federicco
      Federicco 1 September 2014 10: 28
      -4
      well said
      Quote: andrei332809
      gouge them until the arms are folded
      but sorry for their mothers and wives ...
      1. Dazdranagon
        Dazdranagon 1 September 2014 10: 35
        +24
        Quote: Federicco
        but sorry for their mothers and wives ...
        - sorry? Is it normal that THESE mothers and wives are protesting not with a demand to end the war, but "give me some armor"? Aren't you sorry for mothers, wives and children of the South-East?
        1. Federicco
          Federicco 1 September 2014 10: 38
          +4
          It’s a pity to all ... they are very sick .. head ...
          1. Dazdranagon
            Dazdranagon 1 September 2014 10: 48
            +3
            Quote: Federicco
            Sorry for everyone ...
            - I feel sorry for those who were forcibly taken into the army of Ukraine. And pravoseki not curable! hi
            1. Alexan
              Alexan 1 September 2014 11: 26
              +4
              Far more incurable. The whole essence, worldview, the concept of goodness and justice are turned upside down by experienced political strategists and media professionals. If you tried to argue with ordinary residents of Kharkov, Zaporozhye, Kiev and, even, Odessa (I think they are more than half of the population of cities) - impenetrable! No arguments work! Russia is an enemy, Crimeans are traitors, GDP is a fascist ... They cannot explain their conviction - they are simply convinced. How a dispute with the Jehovists! Here, or spit and leave, or spit in the face and rub with his fist ...
          2. siberalt
            siberalt 1 September 2014 10: 53
            +6
            Sick on the head in quarantine for a thorn. Do not take Natsik alive. Counter Terror to Terror. They do not understand otherwise.
      2. Eugenenl
        Eugenenl 1 September 2014 10: 35
        +6
        Quote: Federicco
        but sorry for their mothers and wives ...

        But even more sorry for the mothers and wives of the militias. And if you choose ...

        Quote: Dazdranagon
        Is it normal that THESE mothers and wives are protesting not with a demand to end the war, but "give me some armor"?

        Plusanul!
      3. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 1 September 2014 10: 38
        +4
        Quote: Federicco
        but sorry for their mothers and wives ...

        And the kids who will never go to school and their moms and dads, do not mind ???
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 1 September 2014 11: 14
          +2
          Yes, everyone is sorry. How much blood was shed only because EU functionaries regretted giving Yanukovych compensation for the inevitable financial losses when signing the Association Agreement, blocking what Russia had offered him. And they decided to go the other way - domestic political pressure on him
      4. andrei332809
        andrei332809 1 September 2014 10: 39
        +9
        Quote: Federicco
        but sorry for their mothers and wives ..

        at the very beginning, their mothers and wives called for watering the Colorado and quilted jackets. Or did they hope that the war would be over their little ones?
        py.sy.da and now they are yelling the same thing. They just want someone from the outside to come and kill all the "pilgrims, separatists and terrorists." and very actively hope that NATO will do it for them
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 1 September 2014 11: 09
          0
          Quote: andrei332809
          their mothers and wives at the very beginning called for watering colorado and quilted jackets

          Why such a conclusion? From the commercials of the Ukrainian propaganda?
          1. andrei332809
            andrei332809 1 September 2014 11: 25
            +2
            Quote: Spade
            Why such a conclusion? From the commercials of the Ukrainian propaganda?

            no, from the comments to the videos of ukrpropaganda. I'm tired of their inexplicable stubbornness (or obstinacy) - their sons and husbands are at war with Russia, the war will end in Moscow by hoisting zhevtoblakitny over the Kremlin, NATO will help us by throwing bombs in quilted jackets. and no one (no one!) says "no war"
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 1 September 2014 11: 42
              +1
              Comments to videos? Yes, there are "officers' daughters" sticking out, hired under the ad "work on the Internet." Not all are from Ukraine and not all women.

              The real wives and mothers of the Ukrosiloviks are afraid to blurt out something superfluous, because they kill in the war. And not always the enemy. And therefore, their opinion on social networks is unlikely to be seen.
      5. Turik
        Turik 1 September 2014 10: 39
        +7
        Do not confuse the soldiers who were drafted into the regular army and the ideological fascists from the battalions "Dnepr", "Donbass" and others like them. Soldiers - in principle, normal guys and men will scatter themselves (and already ticking briskly), but especially stubborn fascists will have to be hammered into zinc anyway.

        It is necessary as in Stalingrad - negotiations-refusal-shelling-negotiations-refusal-shelling-surrender.
        1. andrei332809
          andrei332809 1 September 2014 10: 44
          +2
          Quote: Turik
          Do not confuse soldiers who were raked by conscription in the regular army

          so surrenders to everything. the kraynyak, having thrown the weapon, are ticking to Russia. and the National Guard, apparently, are afraid that if they surrender, they will not be paid dough
      6. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 1 September 2014 10: 40
        +10
        Quote: Federicco
        but sorry for their mothers and wives ...

        I looked at these mothers and wives and ....... they are indignant about the Broniks, havchik, but they do not care that they destroy Donbass. Fuck them, not pity.
      7. stalfal
        stalfal 1 September 2014 10: 43
        +2
        Quote: Federicco
        but sorry for their mothers and wives ...


        Most likely, the ideology in the family is the same for everyone.
      8. The comment was deleted.
    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 1 September 2014 10: 33
      +2
      The Ukrainian military commanders giving such orders are far from military events and soldier’s lives, they are not at all sorry for such generals.
      1. skeket
        skeket 1 September 2014 11: 42
        0
        Quote: Thought Giant
        The Ukrainian military commanders giving such orders are far from military events and soldier’s lives, they are not at all sorry for such generals.

        I think that the question here is not even this, but that after how to nod to Russia that it is supplying heavy weapons to Novorossia when so many armored vehicles will be left in boilers. And it’s hard for the Kiev authorities to realize that their regular army, with tanks and planes, is beaten by simple opoles
    3. DMB-88
      DMB-88 1 September 2014 10: 59
      0
      There is a strong opinion that the Kiev junta wants to destroy the male population of the outskirts, throwing more and more cannon fodder into the furnace of war and not at all worrying that the soldiers have mothers, wives, children!
    4. Alexan
      Alexan 1 September 2014 11: 18
      +1
      You can hollow while there is ammunition and a resource of guns. It all ends and wears out. Fuel reserves for tanks and human forces of continuous battles without the ability to move to the rear for recreation ... Do not forget - the army of Novorosia is not regular. Its supply occurs according to other laws.
  2. mad
    mad 1 September 2014 10: 27
    +4
    You have to give orders to break through, otherwise a good tweet won't work out later - "another fighter of the heavenly hundred", etc. You won’t write - "we shit as always." So you can stay without likes wassat
  3. Pro100Igor
    Pro100Igor 1 September 2014 10: 28
    +14
    It is time for dill to learn to distinguish national pride from mass idiocy!
    1. Federicco
      Federicco 1 September 2014 10: 33
      +3
      Quote: Pro100
      distinguish national pride from mass idiocy

      Well, zombies are usually incorrigible and only a headshot helps them ... (well, this is from Hollywood movies)
    2. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 1 September 2014 10: 45
      +1
      Quote: Pro100
      It is time for dill to learn to distinguish national pride from mass idiocy!

      Adolf in this situation behaves (how to say it) more intelligent or something ... Poroshenko is like a butcher at the counter ...
  4. Balbes_I
    Balbes_I 1 September 2014 10: 28
    +2
    Witnesses do not need Kiev.
  5. Russ69
    Russ69 1 September 2014 10: 30
    +5
    Meanwhile, in Kiev, the adviser to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Anton Gerashchenko is happy about something. He writes on Twitter: “Good news from Semyon Semenchenko! Another 69 fighters of the Donbass battalion have just emerged from the encirclement near Ilovaisk. ... Also, another 11 soldiers of the special battalion of the Ministry of Internal Affairs "Svityaz" and 4 soldiers of the special battalion of the Ministry of Internal Affairs "Dnepr-1" left the encirclement. We will summarize and publish the lists of all those who have not yet come out tomorrow. "

    Why rejoice that out of several thousand, less than a hundred escaped. And from units of several hundred people, units came out. Yes, here it is necessary to grieve, and not rejoice ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 1 September 2014 10: 41
      +2
      Quote: Russ69
      Why rejoice that out of several thousand

      In Kiev and the Ukrainian media there is not a single word that thousands were surrounded. There are Ilovaisk and other boilers.
  6. yana532912
    yana532912 1 September 2014 10: 31
    +3
    It seems that they want to grind all the people in this meat grinder. Who is the territory liberated for?
    1. Eugenenl
      Eugenenl 1 September 2014 10: 37
      +2
      Americans to extract shale gas and coal ...
  7. Eugenenl
    Eugenenl 1 September 2014 10: 31
    +16
    Right Sector militants are trying to prevent army units from leaving the encirclement unarmed.
  8. P-38
    P-38 1 September 2014 10: 33
    +3
    “Yes, they left us just surrounded. Then we tried to get out of it, fought, we were bombarded. In total, there were 300-350 people. There are just over a hundred left, ”said a prisoner named Konstantin.

    And why should Kiev let them out? The more they leave the environment, the more they will go with weapons in their hands to the Maidan. And Poroshenko, why is this necessary?
  9. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 1 September 2014 10: 33
    +5
    It’s interesting, why should they be released at all? The army is understandable, they are not warriors and are not particularly eager for battle. And why are the National Guard guards or law enforcement officers, they will come back again, rest a bit, get a new machine gun and go ... I don’t understand.
  10. feel1990
    feel1990 1 September 2014 10: 35
    +1
    People are suffering, not power is suffering ... Valtsman Shekeli washes away =) Everything is kosher ... But ordinary people really feel sorry! crying
  11. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 1 September 2014 10: 36
    +2
    They don’t want the good, let them receive the free will as they say.
  12. fridge
    fridge 1 September 2014 10: 36
    +3
    A reminder to everyone who lives in RUSSIA, you need to protect your country in order to avoid Ukrainian morality!
  13. Loner_53
    Loner_53 1 September 2014 10: 36
    +2
    No corridors! Slaughter to the last ukrofashista! angry
    Corridors are an option for them to take a break, after jumping again under the banner of ukrofascism! am
  14. sazhka4
    sazhka4 1 September 2014 10: 37
    +2
    The famous Okrainsky chernozem becomes even more "chernozem". Only now do not "stick a stick and the shaft will grow" now the barrel of a tank or a mortar will grow.
  15. mig31
    mig31 1 September 2014 10: 39
    +2
    What is most incomprehensible is the patience of the common people, which clearly understands that Kiev sends cattle for slaughter like cattle, and when they mumble and rest, they organize themselves self-destruct ...
  16. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 1 September 2014 10: 39
    +1
    Kiev’s refusal of humanitarian corridors only increases the number of senseless victims
    Pisi: The Sheriff’s Indians don’t care about the problems ... The militias will complete the work that has been started.
  17. special
    special 1 September 2014 10: 41
    +1
    Who does not want bread and butter, he will get x.ren with mustard! laughing
  18. Zomanus
    Zomanus 1 September 2014 10: 43
    +1
    Corridors may not be bad. Svidomo weapons less and less. Fighters also SBU will pickle. In the meantime, our captured weapons will continue to hammer out the surrender. That is, in fact, even if they surrendered and returned, it is easier for the fighters of New Russia to knock out the APU.
  19. Russ69
    Russ69 1 September 2014 10: 44
    +4
    In Amvrosievka, the last center of resistance was suppressed. The building of the SBU was stormed by local residents, so there are no prisoners.
  20. Russ69
    Russ69 1 September 2014 10: 48
    +2
    Militias say that at night the Su-27 failed ...

    01.09.14. Message from the militia.

    "The total losses of punitive forces during the night amounted to one aircraft, two helicopters, two tanks, up to six MLRS, two armored personnel carriers, up to fourteen, guns and mortars, up to twenty-four units of automobile equipment, two ammunition depots. Losses in manpower - up to 100 people. killed and wounded. Thirteen people captured. "


    01.09.14 A summary of the Information Bureau of the Army of the Southeast on the night of September 1: Su-27 shot down, there are battles in the vicinity of Lugansk.

    During the night of August 31, on September 1, the militia conducted successful combat operations in various directions.
    As a result of the shelling of Donetsk, the Ukrainian artillery damaged the gas pipeline and plumbing.
    Three hundred and thirty prisoners, previously captured by militias, as well as seventy-two wounded and thirty-five dead, were transferred to the Ukrainian side in the Donetsk direction.
    Air defense forces of the DPR Army shot down a Su-27 aircraft that violated the cease-fire agreement.
    In the Luhansk direction, the actions of the enemy were defensive in nature.
    Fighting continued in the area of ​​the Lugansk airport. 13 was captured by servicemen from the 80 airborne regiment.
    The Nazis used cluster munitions prohibited by international conventions in the area of ​​the airport using the MLRS Smerch, Uragan and Tochka-U SECs.
    As a result of artillery attacks on punitive positions in the areas of the settlements of Malonikolayevka, Lenino, Vesyolaya Gora, one Smerch multiple launch rocket system was destroyed, up to six D-30 guns, up to four cars, an ammunition depot and up to thirty personnel. Two Mi-8 helicopters were damaged at the field airfield.
    In the Mariupol direction, the main efforts of the enemy were still focused on holding the occupied lines at the approaches to the city and their engineering equipment. "
  21. Patriot 1
    Patriot 1 1 September 2014 10: 51
    +2
    Kiev understands the danger of turning the army to the west. In this connection, it will destroy as much as possible both its own and others.
  22. shishakova
    shishakova 1 September 2014 10: 51
    +2
    I can't understand America - why destroy the entire Ukrainian population, really for shale gas production? But the dead don't need gas. Or do foreign murderers want to create their own colony with their own population ?! "Very democratic"))
    1. Johnny51
      Johnny51 1 September 2014 11: 12
      0
      And where did you get the idea that the United States wants good for someone but themselves ?! Not enough examples for you? Name at least one country that, after US intervention, has come to prosperity!
  23. zsdk
    zsdk 1 September 2014 10: 54
    +1
    All this once again proves that Poroshenko is systematically destroying the Ukrainian people, both in the west and in the east.
  24. gmasterbit
    gmasterbit 1 September 2014 10: 55
    +1
    Kiev, as always, is pragmatic - the more you crawl now, the less then you will come to the Maidan to demand an answer
  25. Stinger
    Stinger 1 September 2014 10: 56
    0
    "Kiev's unwillingness to use humcorridors to withdraw the security forces is an indicator of the authorities' real" readiness "to save the lives of their people."

    In my opinion, this is an indicator of real "readiness" to start the negotiation process for a peaceful solution of the problem. "Poroshenko's peace plan" remains in place. Otherwise why run around the world beg for weapons, money and ask to punish Russia. Dill, it's stubborn. Strongly stubborn.
  26. curl
    curl 1 September 2014 10: 59
    +1
    Quote: Federicco
    but sorry for their mothers and wives ...


    but what about the poster "give dad a tank", the child didn’t think so, mother suggested
  27. shitovmg
    shitovmg 1 September 2014 11: 00
    +1
    These mothers brought up the fascists! I have no pity for them ...
    PS Along with my mother, my mother raised a friend of mine, a native of western Ukraine, and we, Vyatka. I didn’t make a difference, and Moldovans were friends with us ... A friend in Kiev now, he took his family to Belarus, is quite adequate!
  28. Johnny51
    Johnny51 1 September 2014 11: 07
    0
    Quote: B.T.W.
    Quote: Federicco
    but sorry for their mothers and wives ...

    And the kids who will never go to school and their moms and dads, do not mind ???

    Yes, sorry, sorry! .. Sorry for both! After all, in fact, the war is "street to street"! Do not forget that for over 20 years the most natural "hetman" was formed in Ukraine! A whole generation of "Ivanov who do not remember their kinship" has grown up! So, should we totally destroy them all ?! And every 10 - 20 years to receive new Maidans ?! Isn't that what the United States is trying to achieve ?!
  29. sergant6776
    sergant6776 1 September 2014 11: 18
    0
    Quote: Russ69
    Meanwhile, in Kiev, the adviser to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Anton Gerashchenko is happy about something. He writes on Twitter: “Good news from Semyon Semenchenko! Another 69 fighters of the Donbass battalion have just emerged from the encirclement near Ilovaisk. ... Also, another 11 soldiers of the special battalion of the Ministry of Internal Affairs "Svityaz" and 4 soldiers of the special battalion of the Ministry of Internal Affairs "Dnepr-1" left the encirclement. We will summarize and publish the lists of all those who have not yet come out tomorrow. "

    Why rejoice that out of several thousand, less than a hundred escaped. And from units of several hundred people, units came out. Yes, here it is necessary to grieve, and not rejoice ...



    IM POH.R, they are not in the trenches. So they are happy. Good mine and hr .... howl "game" or "feast during ..." Superfluous confirmation that the Slavic population is knocking out .... And the puppeteers are Jewish fascists ....
  30. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 1 September 2014 11: 20
    0
    But it will reduce the number of law enforcement officers — and this is also one of the tasks of the Kuev war! Lawbreakers will also prevent Americans from disposing of the remnants of Ukraine!
  31. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 1 September 2014 11: 27
    +1
    to force prisoners to restore that they destroyed the use of at least something that will be easier than letting go of the punishers forever
  32. ydjin
    ydjin 1 September 2014 11: 46
    0
    Quote: shishakova
    I can't understand America - why destroy the entire Ukrainian population, really for shale gas production? But the dead don't need gas. Or do foreign murderers want to create their own colony with their own population ?! "Very democratic"))

    I think the Amertsians are interested in reducing the population to the maximum, leaving exactly as much as is necessary for mining. Excess must be destroyed!
  33. Iskander 090
    Iskander 090 1 September 2014 11: 49
    0
    I don’t understand their mothers. They are not against the war, they are in favor of giving technicians more. so that they can kill, but they are not. Then they would be happy and everything would suit them. So they still haven’t understood anything, and what is being done to them humanly, and that no one has called to this land, for which the inhabitants of this land are fighting, who are not terrorizing anyone here, are not being taken hostage, etc. They will feel if war comes to their doorstep. Once again, I am convinced of the stupidity of the Ukrainian people.
  34. Iskander 090
    Iskander 090 1 September 2014 11: 51
    +1
    Let the period come when pravoseki will become superfluous and objectionable to the authorities and their roof.
  35. killganoff
    killganoff 1 September 2014 11: 55
    +1
    And I really feel sorry for them ... How did they put themselves in this ATO.
  36. pvv113
    pvv113 1 September 2014 12: 16
    +3
    Quote: Dazdranagon
    Quote: Federicco
    Sorry for everyone ...
    - I feel sorry for those who were forcibly taken into the army of Ukraine. And pravoseki not curable! hi

    Quote: zsdk
    All this once again proves that Poroshenko is systematically destroying the Ukrainian people, both in the west and in the east.
  37. givigor71
    givigor71 1 September 2014 12: 32
    0
    ukrovoyaki do not want to live, so destroy them ...
  38. shef598
    shef598 1 September 2014 12: 55
    0
    Quote: Federicco
    but sorry for their mothers and wives ...

    It's a pity the bee in the torpedo compartment, but these hens are not sorry ....
  39. vic.danilow2014
    vic.danilow2014 1 September 2014 13: 08
    +1
    I don’t understand for what or for whom they are fighting, if you substitute your head for it for money, you have to be a complete degenerate. If they say for the country, then where they saw it. The brains were completely dry.
  40. Ajent cho
    Ajent cho 1 September 2014 13: 17
    0
    So, on a daily basis, you just need to destroy as many Slavs as possible.
  41. alien50
    alien50 1 September 2014 16: 38
    0
    Quote: andrei332809
    then fuck them until the arms are laid down. Survivors of household work, let the schools rebuild.

    Not only schools, but every basement, every house, every tree!
    Return settlements to their original state!
  42. giza 60
    giza 60 1 September 2014 19: 52
    0
    Quote: siberalt
    Do not take Natsik alive

    Natsik in any country-steal.