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Vladimir Putin on food security at the Seliger 2014 forum

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During his speech before the youth at the Seliger-2014 forum, Vladimir Putin touched on the issue of the country's food security. The President noted that the problem of food security had been brewing for a long time: huge volumes of foreign goods of obviously poor quality filled the shelves of grocery stores. Putin stressed that the authorities had been looking for a way out of this situation for a long time. As a result, as the head of state put it, “there would be no happiness, but misfortune would help.”

Vladimir Putin on food security at the Seliger 2014 forum


President of Russia quotes RIA News:

Indeed, the issue of food security is relevant for any country, including Russia. What is happening now in this area - there would be no happiness, but misfortune helped. Because we should have done some things a long time ago, for example, to ensure the profitability of transportation of our fish products from the east to the European part, many things are connected with the support of agriculture.

The President stressed the need to improve the legal framework, as well as the need to support domestic producers.

Meanwhile, all the assurances of government officials that they fully control the rise in prices after the introduction of a ban on the import of food from the United States, Canada, the EU, Norway and Australia by Russia remain nothing more than statements. As a result of the first past (full) week since the introduction of retaliatory sanctions by Russia, weekly inflation exceeded 0,12%. On an annualized basis, this is about 6,4%, which exceeds the forecast of the Ministry of Finance by 2014 year, which corresponded to 6%.
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  1. MSA
    MSA 30 August 2014 09: 37
    +21
    Own production must now be developed in full swing.
    1. Civil
      Civil 30 August 2014 09: 51
      +21
      The embezzlement of money directed to agriculture goes off scale more than 100%, taking into account the loans received on subsidies, Rosselkhozbank .. even corrupt to the ground, there is no one with an agricultural education or at least a native of peasants, completely "children and their own" can read about his losses.
      1. Andrey from Tver
        Andrey from Tver 30 August 2014 10: 40
        +25
        Quote: Civil
        Theft of money directed to agriculture exceeds 100%, taking into account loans received for subsidies, Agricultural Bank ..

        That's for sure. And the Skrynnik from Rosagroleasing should not be forgotten. She surpassed Vasiliev, along the way. And also not steamed.
        1. FACKtoREAL
          FACKtoREAL 30 August 2014 10: 48
          +25
          Quote: Andrey from Tver
          And the Skrynnik from Rosagroleasing should not be forgotten

          Skrynnik (former Minister of Agriculture.RF) graduated MEDICAL institute!
          cardiologist, general practitioner .. and what does the rural economy of Russia have to do with it ??!
          I want to ask Putin and Medvedev ...
          WHY you do not appoint the MECHANISOR or TURKER as your personal dentist ?! request
          would appoint a personal cardiologist - AGRONOM or ZOO ENGINEER! wassat
          1. Andrey from Tver
            Andrey from Tver 30 August 2014 10: 57
            +11
            Quote: FACKtoREAL
            personal dentist

            I would work as a personal dentist in the government .. laughing Well, either a cardiologist or a surgeon. PS He is not a doctor himself.
            1. jaguar
              jaguar 30 August 2014 12: 48
              +6
              Better a proctologist ... if you take it, I’ll go part-time. PS I’m an aviation mechanic by training myself .. I work as a repairman good
              1. Ptah
                Ptah 30 August 2014 13: 04
                +14
                The government proctologist in the government should work as a miner who knows how to handle a jackhammer ...
                what
              2. sgazeev
                sgazeev 30 August 2014 18: 00
                +4
                Quote: jaguar
                Better a proctologist ... if you take it, I’ll go part-time. PS I’m an aviation mechanic by training myself .. I work as a repairman good

                I already promised Manturov to deprive his teeth, and I recommend that you deprive him of eggs with an enema setting of 20 liters that way. wassat
            2. 23 region
              23 region 30 August 2014 14: 12
              +3
              Quote: Andrey from Tver
              I would work as a personal dentist in the government .. Well, either a cardiologist or a surgeon. PS He is not a doctor himself.

              Well, that's even a plus. Write a resume.
            3. sgazeev
              sgazeev 30 August 2014 17: 57
              +1
              Quote: Andrey from Tver
              Quote: FACKtoREAL
              personal dentist

              I would work as a personal dentist in the government .. laughing Well, either a cardiologist or a surgeon. PS He is not a doctor himself.

              I would be a dentist, for every failure in my work I would tear out a tooth. There are already first candidates. Manturov, all teeth without the right to install a prosthesis, in general there are enough patients. angry
          2. Petrovich1952
            Petrovich1952 30 August 2014 14: 57
            +4
            Skrynnik (former Minister of Agriculture.RF) graduated from the MEDICAL INSTITUTION! WHY would you not appoint a MECHANISOR or a TOKEN as your personal dentist?
          3. vladimirZ
            vladimirZ 30 August 2014 16: 29
            +6
            The President noted that the problem of food security had been brewing for a long time: huge volumes of foreign goods of frankly poor quality filled the shelves of grocery stores. Putin emphasized that the authorities have been looking for ways out of this situation for a long time. (from article)


            An Amazing Business "the authorities have been looking for ways out for a long time" from the current situation, as Putin V.V. stated?!
            He probably forgot that the scientists, agrarians, communists of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation for years have been calling on the government of Putin himself to change his attitude to his own agriculture and industry, to stop spreading rot for the West and the WTO; change the inefficient liberal Government of the Russian Federation, get away from the raw model of economic development.
            And now, you see, he saw his sight when Russia began to crush with sanctions. And what was it difficult to foresee earlier, especially since specialists have been repeating for years about the inadmissibility of the collapse of their own agriculture and industry?
            The duality of the character of Putin’s policy is striking: his domestic policy failures are combined with his ability to conduct a successful foreign policy.
            1. sgazeev
              sgazeev 30 August 2014 18: 12
              0
              Quote: vladimirZ
              The President noted that the problem of food security had been brewing for a long time: huge volumes of foreign goods of frankly poor quality filled the shelves of grocery stores. Putin emphasized that the authorities have been looking for ways out of this situation for a long time. (from article)


              An Amazing Business "the authorities have been looking for ways out for a long time" from the current situation, as Putin V.V. stated?!
              He probably forgot that the scientists, agrarians, communists of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation for years have been calling on the government of Putin himself to change his attitude to his own agriculture and industry, to stop spreading rot for the West and the WTO; change the inefficient liberal Government of the Russian Federation, get away from the raw model of economic development.
              And now, you see, he saw his sight when Russia began to crush with sanctions. And what was it difficult to foresee earlier, especially since specialists have been repeating for years about the inadmissibility of the collapse of their own agriculture and industry?
              The duality of the character of Putin’s policy is striking: his domestic policy failures are combined with his ability to conduct a successful foreign policy.

              By the way, even in Soviet times, priority was given to foreign policy, and the domestic one was in the backyard. The course is the same. First, we will destroy it to the ground, and then, we ours, we will build a new world. fool
            2. g1v2
              g1v2 31 August 2014 15: 57
              0
              F-and really do the thing, responsible for its consequences - two different things. For example, I can argue how we can win the 2018 World Cup, but I have a suspicion that theories are theories.
          4. sgazeev
            sgazeev 30 August 2014 17: 52
            +1
            Quote: FACKtoREAL
            Quote: Andrey from Tver
            And the Skrynnik from Rosagroleasing should not be forgotten

            Skrynnik (former Minister of Agriculture.RF) graduated MEDICAL institute!
            cardiologist, general practitioner .. and what does the rural economy of Russia have to do with it ??!
            I want to ask Putin and Medvedev ...
            WHY you do not appoint the MECHANISOR or TURKER as your personal dentist ?! request
            would appoint a personal cardiologist - AGRONOM or ZOO ENGINEER! wassat

            Everyone wants to steer, but don’t know how. It's time to end this, the selection criterion is not from the splendor of the boots, but from professionalism.
    2. Koloradovatnik
      Koloradovatnik 30 August 2014 09: 52
      +11
      Well, of course. Until the roasted rooster pecks in ... a soft spot, do not itch. And before the sanctions, who prevented the inclusion of Onishchenko? He would have found import and chemical weapons. And then how warmed up, so we realized. And before, who prevented their production from being restored?
      1. saag
        saag 30 August 2014 09: 53
        +13
        Quote: Colorado
        And before the sanctions, who prevented the inclusion of Onishchenko?

        Onishchenko dared to do the forbidden - to blame the United States for serous meningitis in the south of Russia, and that prevented
      2. a52333
        a52333 30 August 2014 10: 12
        +3
        Quote: Colorado
        enable Onishchenko? He would have found import and chemical weapons.

        Not certainly in that way:
        Our standards for product quality are significantly higher than European and others.
        And do not think that for us its products are made worse. Not.
        It’s just that they (and we’ve recently) eat this.
        But in this "caravan" of food, put any camel on its back with a straw, and the back will break. Do you understand, colleagues? Any product is lower in quality than our standards. And there is no need to scold Onishchenko (as well as the receiver) that he finds something in the product of the manufacturer who crossed the road to the GDP.
        He has long been sitting, like a huge dog, who was forbidden to bark and bite.
        1. Styx
          Styx 30 August 2014 11: 59
          +8
          We forgot the most important phrase: WERE CHARACTERISTICALLY ABOVE, while the GOSTs were in effect (well, Drakhovian Pts), and until some kind of muck ten years ago or more, the law on canceling the validity of these same GOSTs did not push through. They are now basically gone! I still remember my bewilderment on this fact, and then there came an understanding when the phrase was heard on the air that our demands were much weaker than the Western ones, so they began to drive us frankly. TU then allow ....
      3. 225chay
        225chay 30 August 2014 10: 25
        +12
        [quote = Koloradovatnik] both warmed up, so they caught on. And before, who prevented restoring their production? [/ Quote]

        "The President noted that the problem of food security has been brewing for a long time: huge volumes of foreign goods of frankly low quality filled the shelves of grocery stores" ... [/ quote]

        For 14 years, perhaps you could scratch your ass up there!
        The people hell knows what time it says that you need to invest in agriculture, in your peasants, and especially in the Russian village, which has long been safely destroyed by its moronic reforms
        1. 23 region
          23 region 30 August 2014 14: 18
          +17
          Quote: 225chay
          For 14 years, perhaps you could scratch your ass up there! The people hell knows what time it says that you need to invest in agriculture, in their peasants, and especially in the Russian village, which has long been safely destroyed by their moronic reforms
          1. tokens2
            tokens2 30 August 2014 14: 51
            +4
            to drive these deputies into the neck! throughout Russia!
            and officials there too.
          2. Arberes
            Arberes 30 August 2014 19: 13
            +8
            Come on, Masha! Above your feet!

            Masha was floppy on the seat!
            She has a great car!
            There is a mandate, honor and respect,
            But a couple of years ago there was nobody!

            Who was she before the deputies?
            Girl with a whooper - "P.I.P.ETs."
            In "Univer" thighs sparkling
            Stupidity with ignorance is the crown!

            And now she is an overbearing official!
            And he sits in the State Duma at last!
            Kohl such dishes rule us
            The whole country will experience P.I.P.E.Ts !!!

            She is a deputy from United Russia, there are many such "professionals" there.
      4. nils
        nils 30 August 2014 14: 03
        +6
        Census data. Russian newspaper No. 5660 of 16.12.2011:

        Over the past 8 years, we have missed another 2,3 million of the country's population. In this case, the village was particularly affected: the loss of the rural population is three times more than the urban.
        Not only people die, but the villages themselves. Since 2002, the number of rural settlements has decreased by 8,5 thousands.
        Some of the villages are de facto alive. They just became part of neighboring cities and changed their status. But part of it was eliminated, because due to the departure of residents to the cities and "natural decline" they were empty. However, the census takers counted even more rural settlements, which de jure still exist, but no one really lives there - 19,4 thousand. Compared to the last census, this is 48 percent more.

        Here are such things. And this is not only a matter of the country's food security, it’s its future,
        1. sgazeev
          sgazeev 30 August 2014 18: 21
          +1
          Quote: nils
          Census data. Russian newspaper No. 5660 of 16.12.2011:

          Over the past 8 years, we have missed another 2,3 million of the country's population. In this case, the village was particularly affected: the loss of the rural population is three times more than the urban.
          Not only people die, but the villages themselves. Since 2002, the number of rural settlements has decreased by 8,5 thousands.
          Some of the villages are de facto alive. They just became part of neighboring cities and changed their status. But part of it was eliminated, because due to the departure of residents to the cities and "natural decline" they were empty. However, the census takers counted even more rural settlements, which de jure still exist, but no one really lives there - 19,4 thousand. Compared to the last census, this is 48 percent more.

          Here are such things. And this is not only a matter of the country's food security, it’s its future,

          Something you don’t hear the voice of Rosstat? There’s probably nothing to count. Or is Churov more important for us?
    3. Giant thought
      Giant thought 30 August 2014 09: 57
      +6
      And fish prices have already risen markedly, although our government assured us otherwise.
      1. DMB-88
        DMB-88 30 August 2014 13: 24
        +4
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        /www.youtube.com/embed/_miMixxeoVw"%20frameborder="0"%20allowfull
        screen> ]

        Katasonov - Russia is a colony of the West!
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 30 August 2014 13: 57
      0
      Well yes! They will stop thawing meat from Brazil, giving out as chilled, and prices, as it were, will remain at the same level. Are there any miracles in trade?
      1. DMB-88
        DMB-88 30 August 2014 14: 27
        +5
        Here are the meat payments!
        1. sgazeev
          sgazeev 30 August 2014 18: 27
          +1
          Quote: DMB-88
          Here are the meat payments!

          Let Roma take care of the transportation on his yachts, for "his grandmother, earned by back-breaking labor." lol
      2. sgazeev
        sgazeev 30 August 2014 18: 24
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        Well yes! They will stop thawing meat from Brazil, giving out as chilled, and prices, as it were, will remain at the same level. Are there any miracles in trade?

        I bought Belarusian meat, almost 50 rubles cheaper. And carnival meat will not be cheaper, if not more expensive, logistics is expensive.
    5. nycsson
      nycsson 30 August 2014 23: 03
      +6
      When will our people begin to think with their heads? What is food security?


      The golden stranglehold of the "budget rule" (28.08.2014)

      It’s not a secret to anyone that a huge part of Russia's oil and gas revenues has been floating abroad for many years in a row. “Budget rule” - this is the liberal mantra, according to which it is impossible to use too much money in Russia. Neither the development and modernization of industry, nor the support of agriculture.

      Two years ago, the United Russia party, on the recommendation of the International Monetary Fund, passed a law according to which the country's oil extra-profits float away to our competitors and strategic opponents. Even Western sanctions and the economic war actually declared by Russia have not changed anything yet.

      Nevertheless, discussions about the abolition of the "budget rule" in the Medvedev government are already underway. Will it decide to break the golden stranglehold of the "budget rule"? And if he decides, will he be able to use the extra money wisely, for the good of the country, or will they be stolen, as has happened more than once?

      Academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences Robert NIGMATULIN, member of the State Duma Committee on Budget and Taxes Vladimir FEDOTKIN (Communist Party faction), professor of the Higher School of Economics Ivan RODIONOV and director of the Institute for Globalization Issues, Mikhail DELYAGIN, discuss the problem of using Russia's export earnings in the Points of View studio.


      1. DMB-88
        DMB-88 31 August 2014 00: 03
        +4
        Quote: nycsson
        The golden stranglehold of the "budget rule" (28.08.2014)


        Given that the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is under the control of the US Federal Reserve, it is obvious that the Russian Federation is under external control and is currently a colony of the West.
        Look at the speeches by Academician V.Yu. Katasonova. hi
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 31 August 2014 09: 07
          +3
          Quote: DMB-88
          Given that the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is under the control of the US Federal Reserve, it is obvious that the Russian Federation is under external control and is currently a colony of the West.

          And he is the manager ...... wassat
          Quote: DMB-88
          Look at the speeches by Academician V.Yu. Katasonova.

          I respect Katasonov. And I try not to miss his performances. hi
  2. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 30 August 2014 09: 37
    +7
    It’s right to revive this agricultural industry thanks to sanctions, our entrepreneurs will be very happy, plus the products are environmentally better.
    1. Момент
      Момент 30 August 2014 09: 54
      +17
      Psaki:
      - A sharp decline in imports of Western agricultural products may lead to the strengthening of the position of agricultural producers in Russia. Therefore, the loss of control over a significant segment of the agricultural products market in Russia may constitute a potential threat to US national security ...
      Matthew Lee:
      - But, in a broad sense, do you agree that ensuring food security through the efforts of your own producers is a free and inalienable right of any state ???
      - No, Matt, this is a matter of state policy exclusively. For example, US law since 2010 prohibits citizens from arbitrarily growing any agricultural produce, even for their own consumption.
      - But, as far as I know, in Russia there is no such law - and the people do not protest!
      - Matt, this is normal for a non-democratic country ...

      America has confirmed that Russia has introduced the right reciprocal food sanctions, bringing all sanctioners to hysteria.
      1. DMB-88
        DMB-88 30 August 2014 11: 53
        +9
        Quote: Moment
        Psaki:
        - A sharp decline in imports of Western agricultural products may lead to the strengthening of the position of agricultural producers in Russia. Therefore, the loss of control over a significant segment of the agricultural products market in Russia may constitute a potential threat to US national security ...


        From the quote it follows that the United States has controlled the agricultural products market in the Russian Federation for more than 20 years.
        And where did the president and government look?
        1. nvv
          nvv 30 August 2014 13: 17
          +12
          tongue Valera, and the president and the government .....
          1. DMB-88
            DMB-88 30 August 2014 14: 05
            +6
            Wait chef, and the money ...
            1. nvv
              nvv 30 August 2014 14: 20
              0
              Valera! I won’t beat, I’ll shake !!!!
          2. DMB-88
            DMB-88 30 August 2014 14: 38
            0
            Victor, wonderful scheme. Bravo! fellow
          3. Styx
            Styx 30 August 2014 21: 32
            +2
            The constitution of the camprador colony, when we hold the referendum, eh? My hands are already scratching someone's nose wipe am
        2. DMB-88
          DMB-88 30 August 2014 14: 21
          +8
          True Friends
          1. nvv
            nvv 30 August 2014 14: 38
            +4
            And you're probably right. VVP, who helped him, he does not abandon them. And the inscriptions can be made .... from not understanding the issue. tongue
            1. DMB-88
              DMB-88 30 August 2014 14: 45
              +3
              Helped ????? so he was brought into power at the insistence of Chubais1))) wassat
              1. nvv
                nvv 30 August 2014 14: 55
                0
                Valera, you are incorrigible. We were told you are swimming finely. Chubais is nobody and you can’t call him anything. Valera, I'm sorry if I offended you. tongue
                1. DMB-88
                  DMB-88 30 August 2014 15: 00
                  +1
                  Quote: nvv
                  Valera, you are incorrigible. We were told you are swimming finely. Chubais is nobody and you can’t call him anything. Valera, I'm sorry if I offended you. tongue

                  Victor, what offenses can be? Truth is born soon! repeat
      2. DMB-88
        DMB-88 30 August 2014 14: 24
        +2
        where is the progress report ??
        1. nvv
          nvv 30 August 2014 14: 41
          +2
          And these goats in the toilet. He hiss, hiss .... and wash away
          1. DMB-88
            DMB-88 30 August 2014 14: 46
            +1
            Quote: nvv
            And these goats in the toilet. He hiss, hiss .... and wash away


            Victor! You make me happy !!!
            1. nvv
              nvv 30 August 2014 15: 48
              +1
              OH ... oh .. ohh Just that? tongue
              1. DMB-88
                DMB-88 30 August 2014 16: 41
                +1
                I think you are a good man! smile
    2.  pistons
      pistons 30 August 2014 10: 18
      +8
      Yeah, help entrepreneurs? Skinners caring about their moshna and nothing more?
      So personally, are you ready to work for 15000-20000 rubles, in the field in the heat? And they hire you for 5-6 months and then you went to the exchange, or where do you want?
      And to get or earn on housing, the chances are close to zero ...
      Here's how, in this situation, to lure young people into the village?
      1. pahom54
        pahom54 30 August 2014 11: 10
        +9
        for pistons

        I practically agree with you, in addition to what you called entrepreneurs-agrarians as skaters.
        There are also young people 30-35 years old (!!!) who want to be engaged in and are engaged (!!!) in the cultivation of agricultural crops, and almost all of them have a higher agricultural education (!!!) and work both as agronomists and privates " plowmen "... And if they supply their products directly to shops, then at a divine price. BUT!!! From conversations with them I found out that the main "skins", as you put it, sit in the Administrations-City Halls of cities, towns, districts ... And they rip off these farmers - I don’t want to !!!
        The same thing is happening with loans for agricultural producers. For a long time there was a state program for their concessional lending, but it was beautiful only on paper, in fact, everything was sawn, rolled back, plundered ...
        That is, in practice, we have again come to the same point, as has been said more than once - corruption destroys Russia !!!
        Although I am not a peasant, I look with pain at the fields overgrown with shrubs and groves and dream about the day when Russian agriculture will revive, and Russia will 100% provide itself with agricultural products, and even export if possible. But for this it is necessary to uproot all the rot from the leadership, and we, unfortunately, have a passive way of life and select the shit that we palm off into the leadership ...
        Well, again, I’ll say the same thing - until all the trash that was dug in the government for the purpose of stuffing the moshna was driven into a logging site with the complete confiscation of property - there won’t be any sense, there would be only talk of a beautiful future ... And I hear about it it’s already the seventh decade, and it’s a shame when there are theoretically opportunities, but practically everything is not solved ...
        1. Korablev
          Korablev 30 August 2014 11: 26
          -9
          Quote: pahom54
          I practically agree with you, in addition to what you called entrepreneurs-agrarians as skaters.
          There are also young people 30-35 years old (!!!) who want to be engaged in and are engaged (!!!) in the cultivation of agricultural crops, and almost all of them have a higher agricultural education (!!!) and work both as agronomists and privates " farmers "...

          Are you talking about which country?
          35 - young people, funny!
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          2. DMB-88
            DMB-88 30 August 2014 14: 11
            +4
            Listen to me carefully, understand
            1. nycsson
              nycsson 31 August 2014 09: 12
              +3
              Quote: DMB-88
              Listen to me carefully, understand

              But if you think about it ... How are monuments erected to this monster in our country? And libraries in his "honor" are called ...... Shame and disgrace! And all this accompanied by the cheers of the aru patriots. request
        2. Civil
          Civil 30 August 2014 11: 34
          +7
          Quote: pistons
          Yeah, help entrepreneurs? Skinners caring about their moshna and nothing more?
          So personally, are you ready to work for 15000-20000 rubles, in the field in the heat? And they hire you for 5-6 months and then you went to the exchange, or where do you want?
          And to get or earn on housing, the chances are close to zero ...
          Here's how, in this situation, to lure young people into the village?

          It was precisely under the previous agrarian policy that only such cattle survived, the village slipped even further. Until state agricultural enterprises are returned, this will be so. Serious people will not go to the agricultural complex, and any shushera there will resist this, just the businessman will not break into the village, he will quickly get local cops / administration / kurkuli bent into a ram’s horn, everything will be washed off there - and subsidies for grain and cheap diesel and linden reports on sown areas, this is a real clan mafia, with the killings a vivid example- KUSHCHEVKA when they overwhelmed an entire family, and this is all over Russia. As the manufacturer does not break into chain supermarkets! What a normal businessman wants to deal with a whole criminal structure called the agro-complex of the N ... district of the Nsi region / republic.
          1. DMB-88
            DMB-88 30 August 2014 14: 14
            +4
            I will be an honest successor of our business
            1. DMB-88
              DMB-88 30 August 2014 14: 19
              0
              and everyone thinks you're the 5th column. hehe
        3. DMB-88
          DMB-88 30 August 2014 14: 07
          +4
          Yes, the yacht Dimon is normal.
        4. 23 region
          23 region 30 August 2014 14: 21
          +2
          Quote: pahom54
          The same thing is happening with loans for agricultural producers. For a long time there was a state program for their concessional lending, but it was beautiful only on paper, in fact, everything was sawn, rolled back, plundered ...

          The primary concern is the fight against corruption. Theft will decrease and C / X will rise.
        5. sgazeev
          sgazeev 30 August 2014 18: 35
          0
          Quote: pahom54
          for pistons

          I practically agree with you, in addition to what you called entrepreneurs-agrarians as skaters.
          There are also young people 30-35 years old (!!!) who want to be engaged in and are engaged (!!!) in the cultivation of agricultural crops, and almost all of them have a higher agricultural education (!!!) and work both as agronomists and privates " plowmen "... And if they supply their products directly to shops, then at a divine price. BUT!!! From conversations with them I found out that the main "skins", as you put it, sit in the Administrations-City Halls of cities, towns, districts ... And they rip off these farmers - I don’t want to !!!
          The same thing is happening with loans for agricultural producers. For a long time there was a state program for their concessional lending, but it was beautiful only on paper, in fact, everything was sawn, rolled back, plundered ...
          That is, in practice, we have again come to the same point, as has been said more than once - corruption destroys Russia !!!
          Although I am not a peasant, I look with pain at the fields overgrown with shrubs and groves and dream about the day when Russian agriculture will revive, and Russia will 100% provide itself with agricultural products, and even export if possible. But for this it is necessary to uproot all the rot from the leadership, and we, unfortunately, have a passive way of life and select the shit that we palm off into the leadership ...
          Well, again, I’ll say the same thing - until all the trash that was dug in the government for the purpose of stuffing the moshna was driven into a logging site with the complete confiscation of property - there won’t be any sense, there would be only talk of a beautiful future ... And I hear about it it’s already the seventh decade, and it’s a shame when there are theoretically opportunities, but practically everything is not solved ...

          I want Larisa Ivanovna, not so, she will not help, she flies. I want Lavrenty Pavlovich. am
      2. DMB-88
        DMB-88 30 August 2014 14: 06
        0
        We will raise agriculture !!!
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    5. DMB-88
      DMB-88 30 August 2014 14: 32
      0
      We have great successes in nano technologies, now we are tackling agriculture!
  3. jovanni
    jovanni 30 August 2014 09: 38
    +19
    In our student years, we went "for potatoes", "for apples" ... How many good families were formed! fellow It is necessary to revive this business.
    1. AleksPol
      AleksPol 30 August 2014 09: 41
      +13
      And remember the construction teams. Still Altai can not forget
      1. DMB-88
        DMB-88 30 August 2014 13: 20
        +3
        And we also drove a mechanized squad, so far I can dismantle and assemble the T-40 tractor and assemble it back.
    2. RusDV
      RusDV 30 August 2014 09: 53
      +5
      Quote: Jovanni
      In our student years, we went "for potatoes", "for apples" ... How many good families were formed! fellow It is necessary to revive this business.

      smile there was a case ... we "buried" a lot of potatoes in the fields .... the student's performance is clearly not so hot ... we are going back from the field - an onboard GAZ drives up, a driver "tired" to death falls out from behind the wheel, I transplant him with a scandal on the passenger seat, students (girls, mostly) in the back, let's go. On the way, I almost knock down a collective farm herd of cows, because I didn’t know then that the brake system had to be pumped in advance with my foot to the “stop” ... smile Well, in the evening we go out to fight with the drunken locals who wished to "talk" with the students .... No, it's fun, of course .... I don't regret it, but I would like to work in construction brigades somehow more useful for my children.
      1. saag
        saag 30 August 2014 09: 56
        +1
        Quote: RusDV
        we "buried" a lot of potatoes in the fields

        Did you dig it out manually?
        1. RusDV
          RusDV 30 August 2014 10: 31
          +1
          Quote: saag
          Quote: RusDV
          we "buried" a lot of potatoes in the fields

          Did you dig it out manually?

          Potato digger - the unit behind the tractor, shaking potatoes next to them in a row. Students follow with buckets. Near the truck slowly ...
          1. saag
            saag 30 August 2014 10: 33
            +3
            And I worked like that, so I wonder how it was you who buried potatoes in the fields, they cleaned it normally, without losses, followed it up
            1. DMB-88
              DMB-88 30 August 2014 13: 18
              +1
              Quote: saag
              And I worked like that, so I wonder how it was you who buried potatoes in the fields, they cleaned it normally, without losses, followed it up


              They worked hard. Moreover, they received money for this, of course, but what a student needs !!!
        2. nvv
          nvv 30 August 2014 13: 41
          +1
          Sahag, you probably make no sense in this matter? tongue 300 people dug by hand. I was fortunate enough to get into the loaders. We drove out in the evening to load, and loaded onto the distillations in order to get to the evening gatherings in time. 70th. Then the Army.
          1. saag
            saag 30 August 2014 17: 22
            +1
            Quote: nvv
            Sahag, you probably make no sense in this matter?

            Why such a view?
            Quote: nvv
            300 people dug by hand.

            You were out of luck :-) we had a potato digger working :-) I'm sorry
            And watermelons had to be removed (in another place and in another time period)
            1. nvv
              nvv 31 August 2014 04: 04
              0
              Quote: saag
              Quote: nvv
              Sahag, you probably make no sense in this matter?

              Why such a view?
              Quote: nvv
              300 people dug by hand.

              You were out of luck :-) we had a potato digger working :-) I'm sorry
              And watermelons had to be removed (in another place and in another time period)

              Why no luck? Young, healthy, blood plays, uh !! And as for the potato digger, we see different time zones. Sakhalin. After all, we only got television in the early 70s.
              1. saag
                saag 31 August 2014 08: 18
                +1
                Well, maybe I harvested potatoes in the Kuibyshev region, the village of Idea :-)
    3. tokens2
      tokens2 30 August 2014 09: 59
      +3
      Correctly. Instead of filling out the "crazy" reporting in the workplace, drive office plankton: accountants and other inspectors who check for harvesting. And then they sit on dating sites looking for companions with whom to wave to Turkey-Egypt. There are places and closer laughing naturally at the expense of the state with a full social package lol
      1. kostya-petrov
        kostya-petrov 30 August 2014 10: 59
        +2
        I fully support your idea!
        It is time to drive out this entire plankton to the fields, let them work a little for the native state.
        Yes, and collective farms and state farms are preserved, just the sign was changed to OJSC and LLC, LLP and so on.
        There are a lot of cows now, there is someone to milk and grow. Yes, and at the grain flow hands are not redundant. A delicious lunch the collective farm canteen always feed.
    4. Elena Bor
      Elena Bor 30 August 2014 19: 05
      +2
      And at the end of the 90s we hooked on such outings in the student body. We tried. 7 to the state is one for myself, it was a difficult time. Carrots, aronia and sea buckthorn ...
  4. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov 30 August 2014 09: 40
    +11
    "Ensure the cost-effectiveness of transportation" It always amazed me: Russian fish is transported to China or Korea, from there to Moscow - and it is PROFITABLE! But immediately to Moscow, bypassing intermediaries, no! It seems that you just need to plant someone, look and the fish will fall in price!
    1. persei
      persei 30 August 2014 12: 08
      +1
      and some people’s hands should be shortened as practiced in China ...
    2. sgazeev
      sgazeev 30 August 2014 18: 45
      +3
      Quote: serega.fedotov
      "Ensure the cost-effectiveness of transportation" It always amazed me: Russian fish is transported to China or Korea, from there to Moscow - and it is PROFITABLE! But immediately to Moscow, bypassing intermediaries, no! It seems that you just need to plant someone, look and the fish will fall in price!

      The Old Man has no intermediaries, bidding is through the exchange. We are behind.
  5. saag
    saag 30 August 2014 09: 42
    0
    While these are all words, it is only possible to change foreign suppliers. That's interesting, but Seliger is not the same as the Grushevsky festival near Samara, young people live in tents, and then the next generation of the same time of birth appears: :-)
    1. serega.fedotov
      serega.fedotov 30 August 2014 09: 48
      +4
      Duc agriculture planted such a-SPRING plant, AUTUMN removed! And no matter how much GDP is fluttered with fingers, our goods will not immediately appear on the shelves! The effect will only be noticeable next spring.
      I hope the ban on imports from Europe will be kept for at least a couple of years!
    2.  pistons
      pistons 30 August 2014 10: 32
      +7
      Yeah, from these Seligerysh, before whom the great and terrible crucified, about problems in the village hardly anyone knows ..
      And they are unlikely to go to raise this very village ..
      1. Korablev
        Korablev 30 August 2014 11: 21
        +6
        What kind of village?!?, Etozh "golden" youth - children of officials and oligarchs.
        1. 23 region
          23 region 30 August 2014 14: 27
          +3
          Quote: Korablev
          What kind of village?!?, Etozh "golden" youth - children of officials and oligarchs.

          Well done!!! - You’ll go to Seliger.
  6. shelva
    shelva 30 August 2014 09: 43
    +2
    At the expense of "happiness" and "unhappiness" - that's for sure. It is high time to switch from foreign shit to domestic products.
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  8. Veteran of the Red Army
    Veteran of the Red Army 30 August 2014 09: 49
    +15
    Meanwhile, all the assurances of government officials that they are completely in control of price increases after Russia introduced a ban on food imports from the United States, Canada, the EU, Norway, Australia, remain no more than statements.

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/450/ukui900.jpg
  9. morpogr
    morpogr 30 August 2014 09: 51
    +2
    In August I went to my friends in the Tambov region, all the fields were sown in Moscow and Tula, and in Ryazan, which traveled all the fields at work. Two years ago this was not. So there is a positive trend in the face. If the peasants had affordable loans and fuel at normal prices, we would also have more than delivered them for export.
    1. DMB-88
      DMB-88 30 August 2014 14: 50
      +1
      Quote: morpogr
      In August I went to my friends in the Tambov region, all the fields were seeded in Moscow and Tula, and in Ryazan, which drove all the fields in work.


      Did you happen to drive from Belarus?
      In our fields birch growing and mushrooms!
  10. Pupon63
    Pupon63 30 August 2014 09: 52
    +7
    And here about the Polish apples! Sverdlovsk region. Were from 35rub. to 70, Krasnodar appeared from 80 to 130 !!!!!!!!!!!!! And this is control ??? Everything rises in price! And do not care about businessmen officials !!! negative
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 30 August 2014 12: 24
      +1
      Come on? Even at our place in Arkhangelsk the price of our apples is no more than 45 rubles .. While entering the store I immediately understand ... our apples are sold here .. flavor .. familiar from childhood.
      In Moscow .. even not so .. in "Magnets" .. throughout the country .. our apples are 35-39 rubles .. I travel a lot .. a trucker. I often go to shops in different cities. I have never seen apples for 100 rubles.
      1. Ptah
        Ptah 30 August 2014 13: 27
        +1
        If their (from the dacha) tomatoes this year in bulk, the pepper did not work out because of the cold weather in May. For the preparation of lecho and other "seaming" went to the market.
        "Before the sanctions" market pepper cost 50-60 rubles. per kg. Last week, it rose by at least 80 rubles.
        From local gardens and greenhouses ("at the attendants") it rises to a hundred ...
        The price may go down, but there is a rise in prices. Last year they didn’t live here, but the "locals" say that fruit prices have risen strongly (in relation to last year). Grapes, peaches, apricots, plums ...
        Of course, not entirely exotic, but still a seasonal product. If we are talking about natures. a product, and not about, as biologists say - "substances that resemble famous fruits in their appearance" ...
      2. VAF
        VAF 30 August 2014 14: 06
        +3
        Quote: dvina71
        Come on? Even in Arkhangelsk, the price of our apples is not more than 45 rubles


        In Rostov, on the market local apples from 50 rubles! soldier
        Maybe we have a criterion for evaluating such a product as Apples are different? wink
        I remember in childhood and youth in Sverdlovsk in the market apples were sold in glasses, because there apples are RANETS wassat
    2. plebs
      plebs 30 August 2014 13: 57
      +1
      And here about the Polish apples! Sverdlovsk region. Were from 35rub. to 70, Krasnodar appeared from 80 to 130 !!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Putin emphasized that the authorities have been looking for ways out of this situation for a long time. As a result, as the head of state put it, "there would be no happiness, but misfortune helped."
      It is clear who helped.
    3. DMB-88
      DMB-88 30 August 2014 14: 51
      +1
      Quote: Pupon63
      do not care about businessmen officials !!!

      And officials on the people !!!
    4. sgazeev
      sgazeev 30 August 2014 18: 56
      +1
      Quote: Pupon63
      And here about the Polish apples! Sverdlovsk region. Were from 35rub. to 70, Krasnodar appeared from 80 to 130 !!!!!!!!!!!!! And this is control ??? Everything rises in price! And do not care about businessmen officials !!! negative

      Krasnodar is always more expensive, even without moving. I rested in 2000 near Gelendzhik, the prices are equal to Moscow. So Medunovsky in a row is more alive than all living things.
    5. smart Fox
      smart Fox 30 August 2014 20: 21
      0
      bullshit, today I bought 45 rubles, also Sverdlovsk region.
  11. reut.sib
    reut.sib 30 August 2014 09: 54
    +5
    Dreamers, however! It takes time to revive domestic production, and those who work "on the ground" know this very well! The state has long turned its back to the village and does nothing to help the same farmers, just chatting sitting in warm offices and expensive cars ...
    1. shuhartred
      shuhartred 30 August 2014 11: 46
      +2
      Quote: reut.sib
      ! The state has long turned back to the village and does nothing to help the same farmers,

      Yes, even if it does not interfere.
      1. 23 region
        23 region 30 August 2014 14: 40
        +3
        Quote: shuhartred
        Quote: reut.sib
        ! The state has long turned back to the village and does nothing to help the same farmers,

        Yes, even if it does not interfere.

        There is such a profession - to search for notes on banknotes.
        1. sgazeev
          sgazeev 30 August 2014 19: 03
          0
          Quote: 23 region
          Quote: shuhartred
          Quote: reut.sib
          ! The state has long turned back to the village and does nothing to help the same farmers,

          Yes, even if it does not interfere.

          There is such a profession - to search for notes on banknotes.

          Right, below in the eyepieces, already on the run. lol
    2. DMB-88
      DMB-88 30 August 2014 14: 53
      +2
      Quote: reut.sib
      The state has long turned back to the village and does nothing to help the same farmers, just chatting while sitting in warm offices and expensive cars.


      This is the place that the state turned to the People, many perceive as a person !!! wassat
    3. sgazeev
      sgazeev 30 August 2014 18: 59
      0
      Quote: reut.sib
      Dreamers, however! It takes time to revive domestic production, and those who work "on the ground" know this very well! The state has long turned its back to the village and does nothing to help the same farmers, just chatting sitting in warm offices and expensive cars ...
  12. Rebus
    Rebus 30 August 2014 09: 55
    +3
    Because we should have done some things for a long time, for example, to ensure the profitability of transporting our fish products from the east to the European part, many things are related to supporting agriculture.

    Exactly, some things had to be done yesterday ... For the last ten years, if not more, much has been said about supporting agriculture, and nothing has been done.
    Huge subsidies and state support are received, mainly, only by the so-called "agricultural holdings" and other similar organizations, which themselves are not producers, but only buyers and sellers of products (in fact, speculators), and farmers, often barely make ends meet. You can talk a lot and beautifully about food security, but without real investments in small farms and without re-creating consumer cooperation, these will be just words.
  13. reut.sib
    reut.sib 30 August 2014 10: 00
    +5
    Quote: morpogr
    In August I went to my friends in the Tambov region, all the fields were sown in Moscow and Tula, and in Ryazan, which traveled all the fields at work. Two years ago this was not. So there is a positive trend in the face. If the peasants had affordable loans and fuel at normal prices, we would also have more than delivered them for export.

    Glad for it! But the overall picture is poor.
  14. Stinger
    Stinger 30 August 2014 10: 02
    +1
    Raise the village in a year? Even the great Grisha took in 500 days. They said to him: What are you doing? And he I am Grisha! Thank God they did not. Now an expert on apple democracy is working.
  15. asar
    asar 30 August 2014 10: 26
    0
    The President noted that the problem of food security has been brewing for a long time

    God grant that real words follow the words! And not just words!
    There is much to talk about this problem, I will limit myself to a few points:
    1) Reduce purchase prices, otherwise the manufacturer often works at a loss;
    2) reduce the% interest rate on loans, since they are often predatory, the manufacturer often works at a loss;
    3) our manufacturers most often cannot make their way to the domestic market, since retail chains are not particularly keen to purchase domestic products, since imports include packaging, a large batch, and possibly kickbacks;
    4) to help manufacturers purchase agricultural machinery, processing lines, delivery vehicles ... at normal, real, prices;
    Having such a vast territory, we buy food products abroad! Not ashamed?!
    I remembered how before the First World War, the merchants - "grain growers" of the central provinces of Russia paid generous "grandmothers" to railway officials to create difficulties for the Siberian "grain growers"! Since they were simply driving down prices with a huge amount of grain imported from beyond the Urals!
    And we have the Kuban, Volga region, the Caucasus ... (I do not want to offend anyone - just list for a very long time!)! Well, let's feed ourselves ?!
  16. kostya-petrov
    kostya-petrov 30 August 2014 10: 54
    +5
    May I now insert my five cents in this productive dialogue!
    We now have such a tendency in Russia, there are livestock, there are personnel, but there is no high-quality policy in the field of the agro-industrial sector, in particular, livestock, namely dairy and beef cattle breeding.
    As far as poultry and pig farming is concerned, everything is clear - early maturity and a high turnover of the herd, as well as a shorter production cycle make it possible to talk about the profitability of these areas.
    In dairy farming, everything is quite complicated - we are forced to raise heifers up to the age of 2 years, then later to inseminate it, and after 9 months to get a calf from her and start milking the cow. During this time, we will be able to get two offspring cycles in pig breeding (gestation of sows 3 of the month 3 of the week and 3 of the day), we will be able to increase the number of livestock on the bird, feed it and send it for slaughter.
    For a cow - if we are unable to inseminate the cow on time, the period of the breeding season is extended (the period from calving to fruitful insemination), the cow can then be safely transferred to the category of summer ones, and if after 5 - 6 months we don’t get pregnant at all, then the cow remains barren the next year.
    Now we will translate all of the above into fodder days - it turns out that we have to feed a cow 2 once a day (sometimes 3) - a cow eats up to 18 kilograms of hay per day, drinks 100 liters of water and consumes 3 liters of concentrates. If we do not get a calf, and later milk, then why do we need such a cow - not profitability! Since we must receive a calf from a cow every year (without a calf there is no certainty about a future successful herd). Yes, and the replacement in the herd must be kept constantly - so to speak, its updating.
    Now let’s see: it turns out that if one link doesn’t finish production (namely on the farm), then the whole team works on smarka (the tractor driver fed, the cowherd cleaned under the cow, the milkmaid was milked, but the veterinarian forgot to treat the cow, and as a result the cow remained sick , the veterinarian did not say to the inseminator (said nothing) - the inseminator spent the sperm dose on the cow - in vain, because the cow was not covered due to the pathology of the reproductive tract, and in the end we get nothing.
    When the work is conducted efficiently and socially honestly, then we can talk about high labor productivity. In the meantime, three will get a smoke break - and one will plow.
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 30 August 2014 13: 43
      +3
      And there is such a moment, since you mentioned cattle breeding.
      Belgian gobies. Believe me, we don’t need this.
      "Belgian Blue cattle", also called "two-muscle", look like they spent most of their life not in the meadow, peacefully chewing grass, but in the gym, devouring tons of steroids. But in fact, this species owes its appearance to experiments with the introduction of GMOs.
      If with Belgian bulls everything is more or less clear, then the experiments of Chinese scientists cannot be explained in any way, or even justify. Chinese scientists have implanted the human gene in the DNA of cloned cow embryos, which were implanted in surrogate cows. And now the Chinas can boast a herd of cows giving An analogue of breast milk. After analyzing it, scientists found that it contains more nutrients, 20% more fat, as well as a set of proteins that strengthen(??) immunity of adults and children(!!!). However, in GMO cows tailless mutant calves are born, with 99% dying soon after birth.

      Shl. Does "our response to sanctions" apply to the Chinese? But their "experimental hawka" (not to call it food) is capable of ruining any "national food security" ...
      1. kostya-petrov
        kostya-petrov 30 August 2014 13: 53
        +1
        I have a bull from the Orenburg region in my photo, an acquaintance (head of the farm) is breeding and raising Hereford breed of cattle.
        I agree that you should not bother with such breeds that are grown in chemistry. I fully support you
  17. zvědavost
    zvědavost 30 August 2014 11: 26
    +5
    Dear comrades, everyone somehow forgets that we now have private property, not state property. The state is obliged to include certain regulators that will affect the growth of indicators in the sectors of the economy. And this value of the state does not need to be minimized. But let's think, is any of the owners ready to work for the long-term future of their business? I know not, because in conditions of instability of domestic politics and many obstacles for small and medium-sized businesses, they give up, I don’t want to fight indefinitely. I have my own company for 10 years. I am a tax consultant and my company provides accounting services. I don’t see the lumen. I earn as much as my employees, that is, approximately 40-50 thousand rubles. month. Many of my clients are also struggling to survive and keep their business. Anyone who conducts business honestly and honestly pays taxes loses in competitive conflicts. I do not rob my workers, I pay them honestly that they have earned. Everything is transparent, no one has complaints against me. But what do I have from such a business? By my first education I am a process engineer, but in the 90's, no one needed engineers. With whom now to raise agriculture and industry? There is no desire to further develop this topic, you all already know everything. Therefore, I ask you not to suffer from idealism, that bureaucracy and big business will rush to take care of the food security of Russia and the development of its industry.
    1. kostya-petrov
      kostya-petrov 30 August 2014 11: 35
      +5
      I’ll tell you, I just graduated from Omsk State Agrarian University, now I entered graduate school. I plan to do my scientific work in the quiet of the institute’s classrooms and in production, in cowsheds and calves. I initially worked in the direction of cattle reproduction, and I must tell you, after leaving graduation, everyone left the group in agriculture (most of them in pig farming).
      There is someone to work with, you only need to adjust directions, young people need to be sent to the village. Yes, and salaries now (statement of fact) in the village more than in the city.
      Now we have a veterinarian on a farm who receives from 25 thousand rubles and above, plus he has a personal interest: a business plan is being drawn up and what kind of indicators a veterinarian should achieve (percentage of cattle retirement from the herd, percentage of death of young stock, percentage of pregnant in a herd and stuff).
      And not as it used to be - leveling and that's it!
      1. Nikoha.2010
        Nikoha.2010 30 August 2014 13: 41
        +3
        Konstantin hello! Thank you, I’m glad for your graduates, but how many and what fell apart in the 90s cannot be retold. I was on vacation with my parents in the village of Vozhgora of the Arkhangelsk Region ... Everything is ruined. Men who do not plump, but work on the fingers to count ... Retired people live relatively normal. Children come on vacation, help relatives. And there were farms, a creamery, a timber industry farm, a collective farm, an air defense military unit, and so on. There are no roads, and none of the above is there, and in my opinion no one needs it ... But at the expense of youth, that's all to the city. Nothing to do in the village. The villages die quietly! IMHO!
  18. kostya-petrov
    kostya-petrov 30 August 2014 11: 30
    +5
    Nobody said the main thing here - the volume of state support in Russia is 1%, in Europe - 25-27%. We must first proceed from this. Gennady Andreyevich Zyuganov did not in vain articulate this figure in Yalta - it is very indicative, and primarily for the President and the Prime Minister. Very sure that they personally know this figure. But let's not forget that if we want our milk to be competitive, we need to make quality. For quality to be invested, without investment there is no point in engaging in dairy business. At our place, the prime cost of 1 liter of milk goes to about 19-23 rubles - this is true. It is necessary to reduce the cost, for this we need to modernize existing industrial sites, we need to modernize existing farms. The amount of state support personally, I think, needs to be done by everyone, on an equal basis, but taking into account the conditions of the enterprise itself. State support for agriculture is everywhere - in any country.
    Now allow me to voice my vision about dairy cattle: everything is much more complicated here. To provide our population with milk, for this we need a production reserve from young animals, from a good forage base and production sites for working with young animals.
    If we take into account that the rejection percentage is approximately 5%, then the bias should be done specifically for forcing the livestock. For each dairy herd (already existing), a young cattle train of approximately 30-40% is needed to update the herd and introduce new cows. Now the question is in the field of personnel in the countryside, if you approach this issue from the point of view of production, then you need to increase the level of knowledge and experience at the modern level of the inseminator. The introduction of new insemination technologies also requires considerable investment - but it's worth it.
    Another very painful issue is on the agenda - in our village people are afraid of learning something new, since it is very difficult to break old technology, they are afraid of learning the unknown. But this needs to be done, and moreover, how quickly the operator of artificial insemination can learn, the faster the work will be established within the farm itself.
    Another very painful issue is on the agenda - in our village people are afraid of learning something new, since it is very difficult to break old technology, they are afraid of learning the unknown. But this needs to be done, and moreover, how quickly the operator of artificial insemination can learn, the faster the work will be established within the farm itself.
    Well, the system that was laid back in the 70 years does not work already. This must be noted.
    Now about veterinary shots, everything is even sadder here. If our veterinarians (unfortunately) do not want or are not able to conduct a rectal examination of cows and heifers either to make a diagnosis of diseases of the reproductive system, or to establish a pregnancy, then the process becomes complicated, lengthens, new costs grow, and this all entails certain Problems. The question is also about raising the knowledge of the veterinarian himself - we have a lot of new viral, bacterial and other diseases that not all doctors know about. They are diagnosed by the old nomenclatures, but this is completely wrong.
    I personally think that it is necessary to transfer even livestock farmers to the livestock safety factor.
    This will increase the level of employee social responsibility. But it doesn’t turn out that the veterinarian is blown away for everything. This logic is wrong and counterproductive.
    In conclusion, I would like to summarize: the sooner we can understand the new systems of livestock husbandry, and dairy and meat, the faster we can get to a new level of development.
    Many people write in our old fashioned way - on a piece of paper, but we need to switch to new information technologies.
  19. Diter
    Diter 30 August 2014 11: 36
    +4
    Recently I bought oats at a state farm. In accounting, they told me that at a cost of 11 rubles per kg, they for some reason sell for 6 rubles. When asked about subsidies from the state, they replied that to get them they go to Moscow, where all their nerves will be drained of it, and then they will give a pittance. Here is such an incomprehensible picture.
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  21. kostya-petrov
    kostya-petrov 30 August 2014 11: 54
    +1
    Agricultural planning was carried out by the relevant party, Soviet and trade union bodies. If employees of state institutions or students from year to year went "for potatoes" to the same place, then the corresponding collective and state farms were called sponsored.
    The trip to the potato could be short-term (one weekend) or longer (several weeks). In the latter case, the citizens were provided with temporary housing (for example, in the buildings of the pioneer camp). Workers were fed in rural canteens for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
    Each worker was allocated a section of the field, for example, a section of a ridge marked with flags. Often worked in pairs, as in this way it was convenient to fill the bags with collected crops.
    To observe the order, as a rule, a special person stood out from the party committee or trade union committee, or a Komsomol leader.
    In the evenings, the workers rested.
    “Potato” trips in Russia came to naught in the first half of the 1990-s due to the abolition of the coercive system and the general degradation of “collective farm” agriculture. Now this tradition needs to be more actively and actively introduced into school education, as well as all students to be taken to the fields - to help farms to harvest.
  22. GLUHOI
    GLUHOI 30 August 2014 13: 12
    +1
    Previously, all the fields in the circle were sown! Cowsheds! Pigsties! In every village! Gardens! All yours! Tasty! Awesome! I'm waiting for it to come back! "There would be no happiness, but misfortune helped."
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    1. Ptah
      Ptah 30 August 2014 13: 46
      +6
      I drew ... Yesterday ...
      But it didn’t cause support in the society, more precisely on this site ...
      Here it was not customary to doubt and reason ...
      It is necessary to "shuffle" ...
  24. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 30 August 2014 13: 15
    +5
    To talk about food security, you just need to remove from the wholesale trade all foreign resellers, look who is in charge of our agricultural products markets: at best, we come from the Caucasus, and in the worst case, they are citizens of foreign states, the same Azerbaijanis (mostly not even Russian citizenship). Look at our markets, their crowds selling foreign products and what will these foreign people care about our food security? Not at all, only about your pocket and send money to their homeland! It may be enough to support strangers at our expense!
  25. Signaller
    Signaller 30 August 2014 13: 20
    +5
    Words, words, but where is the deal then ????? It's time, it's time and where are the changes ???. So another indulgence, no more. Certainly not "the tsar's business", but all the power must be used.
  26. pahom54
    pahom54 30 August 2014 18: 28
    +4
    A bit off topic: The European Union vetoes the import of vodka, caviar and diamonds from Russia, HOWEVER (!!!) without refusing to import Russian energy resources ... Again, double standards ??? That is, we will bite you (Russia) economically, but you still give us gas and oil, so that we (them) would be warm, satisfying and comfortable ???
    But is it not possible that Russia will be bribed with such equivalents and it will send all tries ??? Russia will survive, just a few people will not live comfortably, but it is not fatal. Even now, mortal hunger does not threaten us, we leave behind the Iron Curtain.
    But what will happen to these parasites if we don’t give or sell anything to them ???
    Let them eat their apples, mangoes, oysters, jamon ... we are simpler people, we will manage with bread, cucumber, cabbage, potatoes ... We have enough of this good ...
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 30 August 2014 20: 16
      +2
      Quote: pahom54
      But what will happen to these parasites if we don’t give or sell anything to them ???

      And nothing will happen, because "they give - sell" are just parasites, not us.
    2. Naum
      Naum 31 August 2014 11: 41
      +1
      For some reason, the fact is "forgotten" that the rise in prices for Russian goods (including food) is largely due to the rise in energy prices. In our area (Taganrog) in August, gasoline rose by 50 kopecks. weekly, from 30-50 to 33-00 per liter of the 92nd. More expensive than a "mattress" with much lower average wages. After fuels and lubricants, everything else becomes more expensive.
      Is Russia an oil producing country and cannot ensure the stability of domestic prices for oil products? I DO NOT BELIEVE! Tell me what's going on?
  27. Karabin
    Karabin 30 August 2014 20: 20
    +5
    Putin emphasized that the authorities have been looking for ways out of this situation for a long time.

    And they found. Entered the WTO. Now they are looking for ways to get around this WTO.
  28. anton197103
    anton197103 30 August 2014 22: 49
    +3
    To restore agriculture, help is needed not only in words but also in deeds, for example there are 2 farms in the Tula province, where the chairmen really produce meat and milk, but most of the former state farms are in ruins, as if after the hostilities
  29. Cenij150814
    Cenij150814 31 August 2014 02: 28
    0
    Lord, I'm not sleeping ??, where did I go from the comments "Hurray-patriotism" ???, is it really another step towards the revival of RUSSIA !?
    1. brelok
      brelok 31 August 2014 08: 49
      +2
      Quote: Cenij150814
      Lord, I'm not sleeping ??, where did I go from the comments "Hurray-patriotism" ???, is it really another step towards the revival of RUSSIA !?

      Only residents of Russia can scold Russia! And a portion of fair criticism has not hurt anyone yet! The village needs to be raised unequivocally! The village may very well become the engine of the economy! Stolypin already proved it!
      1. Cenij150814
        Cenij150814 31 August 2014 11: 29
        +1
        I agree with you, PARTIALLY, Only residents of Russia can scold Russia! you probably wanted to say the inner politics And a portion of fair criticism has not hurt anyone yet! Ah words, words, words ... yes our government is so fat that spat to all criticism The village needs to be raised unequivocally! Yes, but above all, by great efforts and not by WORDS, The village may very well become the engine of the economy! well if not a locomotive then at least with energy setting it in motion!
  30. vvvvv
    vvvvv 31 August 2014 03: 33
    +3
    It is a pity that it is impossible to post significant things here and that as many people as possible see them ... sad
    In many respects we lose the information war and I will give only one example showing why this is happening. Social Odnoklassniki network - Russian. And it seems that there are laws that oblige to suppress some things on the network and in general. There are also Russian interests. But what's in the social. Odnoklassniki networks write to me from Kiev in response to my joy in the success of New Russia:
    Denis Paris answered Victor
    17:16
    HUY to you and your children in a point, m.r.a.s. !!!

    Moreover, he posts photos, etc. - fully equipped, i.e. this is the one who personally kills people in the Donbass.
    At the same time, he freely conducts anti-Russian propaganda on the Russian site.
    http://www.odnoklassniki.ru/profile/226407740043
    If in Russia this is the case with the blocking of such simple things, then ... I don’t know ... the thing is seams ...
    Administration of social. the networks don't give a damn about it. By the way, social. the network belongs to "mailgroup"
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail.Ru_Group
    and Mail.Ru on a regular basis posts materials from RBC - usually anti-Russian.
    The controlling stake in RBC OJSC (57,05%) through the Cyprus company Pragla Limited is controlled by the Onexim group of Mikhail Prokhorov.
    So I click any news now on mail.ru, the material opens, and the material on the top right has been hanging for more than one day:
    http://top.rbc.ru/incidents/29/08/2014/945879.shtml?utm_source=newsmail&utm_medi
    um = news & utm_campaign = news_mail1
    In general, in such situations, non-optimistic thoughts begin to appear in me. In huge Russia there is no strength to press such matters ... And nobody cares. And after my post here everything will remain in its place.
    1. Styx
      Styx 31 August 2014 22: 27
      +1
      I will subscribe to every word! Especially on OK: I personally filed a complaint about some post on the site (they turned white hot!) There was an answer: there are so many complaints that administrators choke and do not have time to respond in time. The materials and rhetoric on OK are often just sub-article and outrageous to trembling . And with RBCoy generally a joke: they screamed about ours
      the invasion of Ukrainian and about the capture of our landing in the amount of 10 people. as prisoners of war. I wonder how they will comment on the fact that these prisoners of war were simply released
  31. Flexsus
    Flexsus 31 August 2014 21: 54
    0


    The primary task of the Russian World!
  32. vbnvb75
    vbnvb75 31 August 2014 23: 24
    0
    URGENT NEWS =: The government has posted online a database of all citizens of Russia and the entire CIS: telephones, addresses, photo and video recordings, personal correspondence and much more. By the way, all the data is in the public domain, see for yourself ======== - http://linkmize.net/11av
  33. I think so
    I think so 31 August 2014 23: 33
    +1
    The president of a country that CANNOT FEED FOR HIMSELF took care of this situation ONLY FOR THE SECOND TEN years of his reign ... It seems possible to comment on the mental and other abilities of the leader of such a country and even claiming great status (?) ...
  34. muginov2015
    muginov2015 1 September 2014 09: 51
    0
    Amazing! For the first time I see in the comments on the article 100% of the number of adequate people! AU! Where have the pseudo-patriots gone !? I guess the beer-vodka-kebabs.
    R.S. I viciously neglected me for such statements at the previous debate.