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Donbass "boiler" for Ukraine

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A headless body is not just a sign of poor vision, but also evidence of brain amputation. You understand this, watching the actions of the Ukrainian army, which is similar to the rapidly running chicken without a head. No, of course, the Ukrainian generals have heads, but it seems that these heads are not meant for thinking, but for wearing military hats.

Those who watched the military parade on Khreshchatyk on the occasion of the next Independence Day, could not help but pay attention to the Ukrainian generals, dignifiedly lined up near their supreme commander. You look, and you understand, they are not just “team”, but eagles! One another beautiful! Everything is as per selection. And this beauty is also tightly hung with some shiny pendants - awards for parquet battles in the walls of the Ministry of Defense. When you see such pompous luxury, you understand that in Ukraine the general is not a title, but happiness.

What is interesting, while Petro Poroshenko ominously shook his fist from the podium at the enemies of Ukraine, read poems, talked about rampant patriotism and promised to shed the Ukrainian army in the very near future, in the Donbass the armed forces of the DPR without any pathos statements slammed the next “boilers” with seven thousand Ukrainian soldiers. Such a gift to conscious Ukrainians on Ukraine’s Independence Day.

According to the headquarters of the DPR Army, in the areas of Voikovsky, Kuteynikovo, Blagodatnoe, Alekseevskoe, Uspenka, and Ulyanovskoye settlements, the 8 Army Corps headquarters, 28-I and 30-I mechanized brigades, 95-I airmobile brigade, forces of Ukraine, as well as battalions "Aydar", "Donbass" and "Shakhtersk." And in the "boiler" is smaller, in the area of ​​the settlement Elenovskoe, in addition to the Ukrainian military, the battalions "Azov" and "Dnepr" were.

Such a set of encirclements can be called the “Dream of the Donbass Militia”.

After a convoy of Ukrainian prisoners of war was conducted along the central streets of Donetsk, the headquarters of the armed forces of the DPR routinely reported that at the moment the surrounding groups of the Ukrainian Armed Forces are being systematically destroyed. This sounds sad for Ukraine, since in the previous “Southern boiler” about six and a half thousand Ukrainian soldiers and officers were surrounded, of whom about four thousand people were killed. At the moment, the forces and organization of the DPR army are much higher, so the scale of the new military catastrophe of the Ukrainian Armed Forces may be more significant.

The situation is complicated for Kiev by the fact that, simultaneously with the entourage of the Ukrainian southern group, the Donetsk army launched a fairly rapid attack in the direction of Mariupol. Her forward detachments are already in Novoazovsk. In the Mariupol panic. The Ukrainian leadership of this city was evacuated to Dnepropetrovsk. T.N. territorial defense battalions are gradually being “absorbed”. there is practically no one to defend Mariupol. On the outskirts of the city in the direction of Zaporozhye on the highway there was a giant traffic jam. The National Guard is massively running using all cash vehicles.

The facts show that the war came at the time of its breakthrough. Destruction of the most capable units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that turned out to be in the “Southern boiler”, and the exit of the armed forces of the DPR to the coast of the Sea of ​​Azov can finally break the offensive potential of the Ukrainian army. This, in turn, will lead to the fact that the tactical counter-offensive operations of the armed forces of the DNR-LPR in the near future can develop into a large-scale strategic attack. It seems that Zaporizhia will soon become a theater of military operations.

As I remember, at one time the representatives of the Ukrainian army and the National Guard were very outraged that the political leadership of the country did not give them the order for a full-scale military operation in the Donbas. The brave Ukrainian generals and officers were deeply convinced that as soon as Bankova told them “face”, they would tear the “separatists” within a week, totally “cleaning” the rebellious provinces from the anti-Ukrainian “Nepotribe”. Self-confidence of these warriors was absolute. Obviously, at that time they had not yet passed the Maidan euphoria.

In the end, their dream came true. Poroshenko became president and gave the army a “fas” command. After that we went Tanks, howitzers, multiple launch rocket systems, helicopters and attack aircraft. Kiev strategists planned to finish the ATO in a few days. And suddenly it turned out that a quick, victorious military campaign in the Donbass is a stupid bluff of not quite smart people, and the self-conceit of the Ukrainian military borders on cretinism. Ordinary Donbass men with machine guns suddenly turned out to be more effective fighters than the entire Ukrainian army combined. Strelkov’s detachment, defending Slavyansk for several months, was a clear confirmation of this. The Strelkovites were able to confront the regular units of the Armed Forces for a long time, surpassing them in numbers and armaments by tens of times! The "stupid cattle of Donbass", which for the conscious Ukrainians are residents of Donetsk and Lugansk, in some inexplicably turned into a formidable force that can not only protect itself from the punitive and terrorist measures of Kiev, but also come to the capital on a return visit. It is no secret that now in the Donbass there are a huge number of people who dream of putting long-range howitzers in Troieschyna and in a couple of days to demolish not only the Maidan and Bankovaya, but also the floor of Kiev. The bestial cruelty of Ukrainian punishers aroused a terrible destructive force on the ancient Cossack land. And, most likely, to the death of Ukraine.

By itself, the phenomenon of Slavyansk showed that Kiev does not have a full-fledged and capable army. And it was not a secret to anyone even before the outbreak of hostilities. To start a war without having an army and military allies is not just a stupid adventure, but a frank insanity. But, nevertheless, Kiev started the war.

After Slavyansk, convinced of the inefficiency of the Armed Forces, the leaders of the Maidan relied on massive attacks on rebellious cities with heavy artillery and aviation. Ukrainian generals and the political leadership of Ukraine proceeded from the fact that the total destruction of the settlements of Donbass will make their defense meaningless and impossible. Until a certain point, this tactic yielded results. Demolishing everything in its path with the help of shelling and bombing, the armed forces of Ukraine began to gradually compress the ring of fire around Donetsk and Lugansk, being on the outskirts of the capitals of the rebel republics. They were followed by punitive battalions of Ukrainian neo-Nazis, organizing mass executions and executions of the "wrong" civilian population.

However, the deeper the tank wedges of the Ukrainian army plunged into the Donbass, the more violently and effectively the resistance of the militia became. And in this, at first glance, chaotic defense, there was its own clear strategic goal - to maximally exhaust and deplete the advancing enemy. In fact, the Donbass used the traditional defensive strategy of Russia, consisting in the gradual absorption of the invader army. There was no clear front line in the Donbas. For his organization there was neither strength nor meaning. The militia only held key territories, gradually “enveloping” and “digesting” enemy units. In fact, with the stubbornness of an idiot, the Ukrainian army chopped down a viscous "swamp" of the militia with tank columns, which gradually and inexorably absorbed them. The blows of the APU for the most part went into the void, bringing death most often to civilians. At the same time, the Donbas militia methodically “ate” the strike potential of the Ukrainian army without any special harm.

First of all, the DNR-LC was tasked with neutralizing Ukrainian air superiority. Given the scale and effectiveness of Ukrainian aviation, this was not difficult to do.

At the time of the outbreak of hostilities, the APU had approximately three dozen Mi-8 helicopters and twenty Mi-24 helicopters. And from them to rise into the air was capable of at best half.

The hunt of the militia on the Ukrainian rotorcraft gave quick results. The losses of combat helicopters turned out to be so high that, as an important military factor, they ceased to exist within a few months.

After this, the process of systematic destruction of the APU attack aircraft began. At the time of the outbreak of hostilities, the Ukrainian army had three dozen attack aircraft Su-25 (299-I brigade of tactical aviation) and two dozen fighter-bombers Su-24 (7-I brigade of tactical aviation). At the same time, of all the Su-25 available to the Ukrainian Air Force, about 14 machines could have flown into the sky, and only eight from the Su-24. Most of this “aviation armada” was destroyed by early August. The remaining attack aircraft are no longer able to exert a fundamental influence on the course of hostilities.

Ukraine still has several dozen MiG-29 and Su-27 fighters, which Kiev is trying to use as bombers, but their use against ground forces is ineffective and at low altitudes fighters are just as easily knocked down as ground attack aircraft.

Thus, by July, the superiority of the Ukrainian army in the air was completely neutralized.

After that, the main task of the Armed Forces of the DPR-LPR was the methodical destruction of the APU armored vehicles.

No one knows for sure (except for the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, which has studied this issue in detail a year before the war) how real the number of tanks and armored personnel carriers is in the Ukrainian army. In the warehouses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine there are thousands of units of Soviet armored vehicles, but most of it is scrap metal. According to some reports, in general, Ukraine can make up to a thousand, in one degree or another usable, tanks move and shoot. For the scale of hostilities in the Donbas, this is more than a serious military potential. A tank connection in 300-400 vehicles, reinforced by armored personnel carriers and infantry, could in itself tear down any defense of the militia that still lacked enough artillery in its path.

However, the overwhelming superiority of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in armored vehicles is leveled by the lack of the necessary number of trained tank crews and the army command, capable of effectively commanding a similar tank armada. That is why the Ukrainian army is forced to use relatively small tank groups in the combat zone, the largest of which do not exceed 6-8 dozens of vehicles. At the same time, the Ukrainian tank divisions, which are not reinforced by combat-ready infantry, especially in the conditions of large urban conglomerations, become very easy prey for Donbass infantry, currently supported by artillery and tanks. Moreover, as practice shows, the DPR-LPR manages to use its heavy weapons as efficiently as possible, as evidenced by the “boilers” constantly arising in the combat zone with the surrounded groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Stocks of tanks and armored personnel carriers of Ukraine are significant, but not infinite, and at the moment they are beginning to dry up. This is directly evidenced by the fact that the Americans began to transfer trains with old Soviet armored vehicles from the countries of Eastern Europe to Ukraine. This is the first sign that the strategy of the Donbass army is paying off - the APU is rapidly losing stocks of its heavy weapons.

And finally, no less, and perhaps a more important element of the strategy of the DPR-LPR army, this is the process of continuous, large-scale destruction of personnel of the units of the Ukrainian army and the National Guard.

In recent months, the extermination of Ukrainian soldiers, national guardsmen and militants of various territorial defense battalions has become simply catastrophic in connection with the succession of “boilers” in the south of the theater of military operations. All this, to a greater degree, begins to resemble not war, but a gigantic meat grinder, to which Kiev continuously sends thousands of recruits mobilized, but not ready for war.

In fact, the same scheme is repeated: the next grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, supported by tanks, deeply enters the territory of the DPR with a motorized wedge, and then the militia’s slamming blows from the flanks follow and the attacking Ukrainian units are surrounded by methodically destroying them with heavy artillery. At the same time, Kiev has neither the strength nor the desire to unblock the subunits that were surrounded. They are simply abandoned to their fate. In fact, the war of recent months has become a series of bloody "boilers" with the massive destruction in them of soldiers and officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

If we are already summing up the preliminary results of the military campaign in the Donbas, then it is necessary to state that, at the moment, the Ukrainian armed forces were unable to accomplish any of the strategic tasks assigned to them.

Firstly, the Ukrainian Armed Forces failed to cut off the DPR-LPR from the Russian-Ukrainian border.

Secondly, the Ukrainian army was unable to dissect and isolate the territories of the rebel republics from each other.

And, thirdly, the armed forces of Ukraine could neither surround, nor even capture the Donetsk and Lugansk.

At the same time, at the time of August, the Ukrainian army lost its most combat-ready infantry units, was left without aircraft and is now rapidly losing armored vehicles.

If the “Southern Cauldron” of the name of Independence Day will be destroyed in the same way as the previous ones (and this is likely to be the case), by the end of September the Ukrainian armed forces will lose their offensive potential. And this, in turn, will mean a turning point in the war.

It should be borne in mind that at the moment Donbass already possesses a sufficiently large, fired, volunteer (and therefore well motivated) army, which was able to move in its organization from scattered militias to a centralized system of army control. If in the initial phase of the battle for Donbass, the militia fought with sticks and hunting rifles, now the combined army of Novorossia has heavy artillery, tanks and armored personnel carriers. At the same time, judging by the effectiveness of the conduct of hostilities by the units of the DPR-LPR, the backbone of the Donbass armed forces consists of experienced personnel soldiers who are able to plan and carry out military operations at least at the level of brigade units.

If we talk in general, we have to state that the Ukrainian army has already reached the peak of its forces and now its military potential will only decrease (due to objective reasons that have developed not only in the combat zone, but also in the rear) LNR is just beginning to move towards the peak of its strength, and its military potential will only increase. This process will be especially intensive if new regions in the south and east join the rebellious republics.

In fact, for the time being, Donbass has become one big “boiler” for Ukraine, from which, apparently, it is no longer able to escape. Each new month of war inexorably brings the death of the country.
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  1. Giant thought
    Giant thought 30 August 2014 07: 56
    +25
    The fascist leadership stuck the country in such an ass that there is nowhere worse.
    1. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 30 August 2014 08: 01
      +43
      You are mistaken, have not stuck it yet, this is still a process of stuffing.
      And the jumpers will understand the depth of the dive when the rivers cool and the earth cools ....
      1. Civil
        Civil 30 August 2014 09: 46
        0
        From Illovaysk let out ...
        1. Cadet787
          Cadet787 30 August 2014 12: 13
          +3
          The battalion commander "Kryvbas" with subordinates - in the Zaporozhye region
          30.08.2014 - 10: 32
          The commander of the 40th territorial defense battalion from Kryvyi Rih, Alexander Motry, who voluntarily left the position near Ilovaisk with 50 subordinates, is on the border of Donetsk and Zaporozhye regions. This, as reported by the "Novorossiya" agency, said one of the battalion's servicemen, Alexander Potapenko.
          According to the military, the situation there was intolerable, and the commander decided to withdraw some of the soldiers from there. "About a hundred people came out. Half of them are already in Krivoy Rog, to the hospitals. We also want to go home, sleep well, rest," he says.
          According to him, the battalion was constantly fired upon from medium and heavy artillery. “We only had buses, small arms, machine guns and one grenade for each,” Potapenko says.
          According to the soldier, the decision to leave was made, among other things, due to lack of confidence in the competence and professionalism of the commander of the "B" sector, Lieutenant General Ruslan Khomchak, who was in charge of the operation in Ilovaisk.
          1. avg
            avg 30 August 2014 13: 10
            +5
            Mr. Parashenko’s militias will make them recall the Russian classics:
            ... The king ordered himself to undress,
            Crossed twice
            Wham into the boiler - and it was boiled there! laughing
            1. Corsair
              Corsair 30 August 2014 18: 56
              +2
              Quote: avg
              Mr. Parashenko’s militias will make them recall the Russian classics:
              ... The king ordered himself to undress,
              Crossed twice
              Wham into the boiler - and it was boiled there!


              In a caramel cauldron ...
          2. smart Fox
            smart Fox 30 August 2014 13: 34
            +6
            Ah, they wanted to sleep, the poor fellows got tired. How much effort was spent to scrub up to Zaporozhye. crying
            1. field engineer
              field engineer 1 September 2014 17: 31
              +1
              Lullaby under "VIA Akatsiya".
          3. _Forgiven_
            _Forgiven_ 1 September 2014 17: 28
            +1
            It was possible to stick a grenade into the anus and, shouting "hto do not jump, that mos.cal" run to Kiev. Perhaps the check would remain clamped))
        2. WKS
          WKS 30 August 2014 13: 14
          +2
          In fact, for the time being, Donbass has become one big “boiler” for Ukraine, from which, apparently, it is no longer able to escape. Each new month of war inexorably brings the death of the country.

          The most amazing thing is that this is such an obvious statement that is not perceived by the Ukrainian leadership. And even those politicians who are trying to voice this truth are stubbornly drowned and overthrown.
        3. Peter Timofeev
          Peter Timofeev 30 August 2014 14: 36
          +3
          The main thing is to razombirovat Ukraine, then the army of Donbass will increase by tens or even hundreds of times.
          1. Hadrut67
            Hadrut67 30 August 2014 22: 39
            +1
            Oh how long will this take
          2. shasherin.pavel
            shasherin.pavel 1 September 2014 17: 12
            +2
            And what if Russia gathers a hundred T-80s, 100 Kamaz trucks with artillery and ammunition, 40 Tornadoes and breaks into the land of Novorossia, gets "surrounded" and asks for a humanitarian corridor for soldiers, leaving all the equipment in the "cauldron." And then to G. Europe say: "We wanted to help Kiev, but we were surrounded and beaten."
        4. zg78u5
          zg78u5 31 August 2014 21: 42
          +1
          Why let out ... let them restore what they destroyed ...
        5. lex loci
          lex loci 1 September 2014 15: 40
          0
          "They release from Illovaisk .."

          Either carcass or stuffed ....
      2. WKS
        WKS 30 August 2014 13: 20
        +5
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        You are mistaken, have not stuck it yet, this is still a process of stuffing.
        And the jumpers will understand the depth of the dive when the rivers cool and the earth cools ....

        This stuffing has been going on for 23 years, but this year the process has accelerated sharply and from being stuffed it has almost turned into a cesspool. It’s about to flop.
      3. Corsair
        Corsair 30 August 2014 18: 54
        +3
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        You are mistaken, not stuck

        And here you can argue.

        Personally, I, so to speak, on my own skin, feel that I have "STOPPED", and quite deeply. Just about the "depth of depths" of this process, one can only speculate and speculate ...

        After all, everyone knows that stupidity, not limited by common sense and external influence, NO LIMITS...
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 30 August 2014 08: 32
      +6
      There was no strategy there. There was plan "A" and plan "B". The first - if they hit in the face, the second - and if the head is knocked off. Seems to be happening laughing
      1. Denis
        Denis 30 August 2014 09: 00
        +44
        Quote: siberalt
        There was no strategy there. There was plan "A" and plan "B". The first - if they hit in the face, the second - and if the head is knocked off. Seems to be happening laughing
        1. Korvin1000
          Korvin1000 30 August 2014 11: 44
          +14
          This is an American journalist I really like. Literate with intelligence ....
          And psaki, specially selected for a humorous show)))
          1. shasherin.pavel
            shasherin.pavel 1 September 2014 17: 15
            0
            Quote: Korvin1000
            This is an American journalist.
            give him money to run for president. And let Psaki arrange a theater of satire and humor.
    3. artemon0502
      artemon0502 30 August 2014 10: 12
      +3
      good article
    4. Cadet787
      Cadet787 30 August 2014 12: 09
      +4
      30.08.2014 - 10: 00
      Cowards or heroes? 75 “defenders of Novoazovsk” returned to Vinnitsa.

      75 employees of the 9th territorial defense battalion came to their homeland from Mariupol, where they voluntarily retreated from near Novoazovsk. The company commander who was in Mariupol wrote down the word “cowards” on military tickets and sent them back. They themselves claim that they spent two days under fire at the checkpoints without any help, with only machine guns. Relatives chanted "Heroes!".
      “We are no longer afraid of anything. It is not clear what our fault is. The other guys also wrote reports, but they stupidly tore them up. One soldier also wanted to leave. He has a disabled wife and three children. They don’t even give a vacation. We were thrown there like cannon fodder. There is nothing to fight. Some machines with us and all. For two weeks, our equipment was raised, and before the attack they were taken back to Zaporozhye. We will do our best to get our guys back from there, ”Vitaliy shows the ticket.
      They note that the command of the battalion should be immediately changed. The commander of the first company resorts to provocations, behaves inappropriately and not evenly.
      “Specially, so as not to go to the post, Major Petr Melnichenko gets drunk. Somehow got drunk to delirium tremens. He took and drove a knife to Captain Alexei Kondre. Now he is injured in a hospital in Dnepropetrovsk, the soldiers say. - Everything is done to embroil the fighters. They’ve just boiled porridge turned upside down, or they’ll come up with something else. This should be noted. If the command enters into disputes with the personnel, they should pick it up. Otherwise, they will shoot him. ”
      The military commissar Gennady Dolgashov invited all the fighters to discuss everything behind closed doors without the press and relatives. They did not want to. After half an hour of negotiations, we agreed to let in a representative of only one central channel. After that, everyone went home. According to Lieutenant Colonel Alexei Ostrovoy, who will be fit for service will again go to Donbass. Like, the soldiers swore allegiance to Ukraine.
      A month and a half ago, relatives of soldiers of the 9th battalion asked for rotation. In Mauripol there are 400 more people left from the battalion “Vinnitsa”
      1. GLUHOI
        GLUHOI 30 August 2014 14: 05
        +8
        It's easy to screw yourself! You look at what they are talking about! belay They do not shine or anything! With such "warriors"! Personnel on the actions of officers ...! lol Two Chechen companies passed. I look at ukrovoyak and OHYU.VAYA! OUR GUYS ARE THE BEST! Such crap does not fit into their heads! The most important thing is that everything prevents them from fighting something freaks! No one would have forgotten about the war and lived in peace! And then Russia, then Vova, then the Officers, then the Weapon is not that, then the Broniki is not that modification ... ZEEB.ALI are these HOOLS!
      2. GLUHOI
        GLUHOI 30 August 2014 14: 10
        +2
        “Specially, so as not to go to the post, Major Petr Melnichenko gets drunk. Somehow got drunk to delirium tremens. He took and drove a knife to Captain Alexei Kondre. Now he is injured in a hospital in Dnepropetrovsk, the soldiers say. - Everything is done to embroil the fighters. They’ve just boiled porridge turned upside down, or they’ll come up with something else. This should be noted. If the command enters into disputes with the personnel, they should pick it up. This suggests that people were torn from the tit of Mamkina and sent to .opa! Is that the whole Ukrainian army? In war, as in war! it's just everyday life! Not worthy of attention! And then the national tragedy is bloated media! lol
    5. REMBO
      REMBO 30 August 2014 19: 39
      +3
      The fascist leadership stuck the country in such an ass that there is nowhere worse.
    6. Solaris
      Solaris 1 September 2014 14: 47
      0
      in my opinion it doesn’t stretch her (head) for quite some time
  2. Denis
    Denis 30 August 2014 07: 58
    +17
    After a column of Ukrainian prisoners of war was held along the central streets of Donetsk, at the headquarters of the Armed Forces of the DPR, they routinely reported that at the moment, the surrounded APU groups are being systematically destroyed.
    1. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 30 August 2014 08: 02
      +7
      ))) here they are the descendants of ancient ukrov
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 30 August 2014 08: 45
      +7
      November 7 can be repeated, but already in Kuev with the instigators in the forefront.
      Damn new socialist revolution! Who would not think, but not to see the fact - to be blind. "From imperialist war to ...." Whose words were these?
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 30 August 2014 10: 16
        +6
        Quote: siberalt
        "From imperialist war to ...." Whose words were these?

        With all his piety to Ilyich, however, he never considered "oligarchic" wars! But at the same time in which we live, "J-dovo" oligarchs "sawed off" Ukraine, and EEF oligarchs, on the wave of Russian resistance in the South-East of "Ukraine" are trying to get something out of it. By sending the "Russian" oligarchs to the zone where, in fact, their place is, having formed a government of popular confidence, Putin could host the parade of liberation of Kiev on the date you specified. However, this will not happen, since ON is the guarantor of the obligations given to the Yeltsin regime.
  3. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 30 August 2014 08: 00
    +7
    Yes, for Kiev, the army has already reached a turning point and is incapable of falling into boilers in hundreds of deserts, and Novorossia is gaining strength every day thanks to Ukrainian equipment abandoned by the army of Ukraine, so it’s not a long time to sit
  4. kot28.ru
    kot28.ru 30 August 2014 08: 08
    +17
    The pseudo-government of Ukraine so far successfully only fulfills its main task, the destruction of Ukraine as a single independent state, turning it into a colony of the West! hi
  5. smith7
    smith7 30 August 2014 08: 13
    +5
    All military successes of the militia, paid for with the blood of volunteers and civilians, may "come to naught" after accusations from the "West" about the participation of the RF Armed Forces in them. Although they are fighting competently. Respect! Why is the leadership of the Ukrainian Armed Forces so mediocre? After all, one school! Apparently because the truth behind the militias of the southeast. After all, Ukrainians are not stupid people, they know how to fight no worse than ours.
    1. 77bob1973
      77bob1973 30 August 2014 09: 11
      +13
      What school are you talking about, Ukrainians do not have division, army-level commanders as a class, appointment to positions is not based on professional qualities, but after checking politically "correct views", and during the ATO Ukraine lost most of its junior commanders, but this will be more serious.
      1. Iline
        Iline 30 August 2014 13: 11
        +10
        He himself came across this when they took the Tu-95MS and Tu-160 in Ukraine in 99-2000. It was pleasant to talk with the officers of the old school, and drink a glass of tea. But even then young people appeared among the officers who openly looked at us as enemies, and at their old officers as renegades. If we say that, as specialists, these young people were a complete zero, there is nothing to say.
        As a result, Ukraine has what it has.
      2. Corsair
        Corsair 30 August 2014 19: 04
        +8
        Quote: 77bob1973
        What school are you talking about, Ukrainians do not have division, army level commanders as a class, appointment to positions is not based on professional qualities, but after checking politically "correct views"


        And this appointment procedure is right at the moment, and I like it (oh how you like it, I’m already mlei) laughing It would also be worthwhile to heed the military genius of Lyashko, and "clean up" the General Staff, appoint captains and majors "who know how to dig in" for general positions, and appoint Semyon Semenchenko, speaking balaklava, to the post of Defense Minister yes ...

        And Toda, ukroorda how to rattle, how to rattle wassat ...
    2. Constanta
      Constanta 30 August 2014 09: 34
      +9
      ... After all, Ukrainians are not stupid people, they know how to fight no worse than ours.

      That's it! When a people fights for their land, it is invincible, like a berserker, fearless and strong. And with him God himself. But fascist ambitions, even with the most intelligent leadership, will lead to collapse.
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    4. 23 region
      23 region 30 August 2014 10: 18
      +12
      I could not help but pay attention to the Ukrainian generals, who lined up gracefully near their supreme commander in chief. You look and understand that they are not just “commanding”, but eagles! One another is more beautiful! Everything is like a selection. And this beauty is also densely hung with some shiny pendants - awards for parquet battles in the walls of the Ministry of Defense.

      There may be one school. Only for some reason, contrary to the theory of probability, only "Losers" gathered in Ukraine.
  6. gmasterbit
    gmasterbit 30 August 2014 08: 17
    +16
    by all indications, the president of Ukraine lyashko and the prime minister has a nickname for him, because everything is done through the ass and more and more actively prepare for the land
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      1. Sergeqr
        Sergeqr 30 August 2014 12: 07
        +4
        laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
        Here Hitler is 1000% right
        lol lol lol
        And merkel.
  7. Akvadra
    Akvadra 30 August 2014 08: 18
    +16
    A very accurate comparison is a chopped-off chicken. It does not run for a long time, but everything will flood with blood.
  8. Mihail29
    Mihail29 30 August 2014 08: 25
    +5
    If I didn’t know that the whole leadership of Ukraine is, then one would have thought that the collapse of the country was planned by them earlier.
  9. FACKtoREAL
    FACKtoREAL 30 August 2014 08: 32
    +8
    no, well .... Sanya Zakharchenko - HELP!
    promised to "convince" ukrov Do not shell peaceful cities and do not destroy infrastructure ...
    wait, sir! ...
    Donetsk and Lugansk boilers
  10. Bronik
    Bronik 30 August 2014 08: 45
    +12
    For the disposal of abandoned dill scrap will have to be released Zaporozhye.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 30 August 2014 10: 19
      +8
      Quote: bronik
      For the disposal of abandoned dill scrap will have to be released Zaporozhye.

      Maybe a discount of $ 100 on gas is promised for this?
    2. Penzyac
      Penzyac 30 August 2014 12: 44
      +4
      Quote: bronik
      For the disposal of abandoned dill scrap will have to be released Zaporozhye.

      And Kharkov ...
  11. Elena Urzhumova
    Elena Urzhumova 30 August 2014 09: 08
    +4
    Wonderful article. + 100500!
  12. Rigla
    Rigla 30 August 2014 09: 15
    +8
    Well, now about the Su-25 dill. You can talk only in the past tense.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 30 August 2014 10: 21
      +1
      Quote: Rigla
      Well, now about the Su-25 dill. You can talk only in the past tense.

      Oh oh Su-25s were once produced in Tbilisi.
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 30 August 2014 12: 46
        +1
        Quote: 11111mail.ru
        Quote: Rigla
        Well, now about the Su-25 dill. You can talk only in the past tense.

        Oh oh Su-25s were once produced in Tbilisi.

        When was it? ... Do not even remember!
        1. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 30 August 2014 14: 43
          +1
          Quote: PENZYAC
          When was it? ... Do not even remember!

          1. Technological equipment (stocks, etc.).
          2. Technological documentation (originals).
          3. Personnel capable of providing (repair?).
          4. Just a very technological machine, adapted for military use.
          Watched in 1988? in Shprotava, landing of the Su-25 regiment on a flight to Chernyakhovsk. That was a class! Duty couple + landing squadron. Then the approach of the second duty couple with an excess of about 1500 m. And so on. before landing the third squadron, in the same order.
  13. Mihail177
    Mihail177 30 August 2014 09: 20
    +5
    In fact, for the time being, Donbass has become one big “boiler” for Ukraine, from which, apparently, it is no longer able to escape. Each new month of war inexorably brings the death of the country.
    Good article, positive. Once again confirms-well, they can not svidomye ... No.
  14. kotev19
    kotev19 30 August 2014 09: 21
    +10
    And today, the Ukrainian commander abandoned his army as Napoleon near Moscow, and fled to Brussels, so as not to witness the final chords of the junta tragedy ....


    Photography - Berlin, German soldiers surrender their weapons

    April 1945

    Finisher Deutsches Bundesarchiv (German Federal Archive), Bild 183-W0422-004

    Posted by Redkin, Mark
  15. KsenofoB
    KsenofoB 30 August 2014 09: 26
    +5
    And what did they think? That they will be treated with cookies in the Donbass?
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 30 August 2014 12: 48
      +2
      Quote: KsenofoB
      And what did they think? That they will be treated with cookies in the Donbass?

      A bottle of bacon ... fool
  16. victorrat
    victorrat 30 August 2014 09: 29
    +10
    And most importantly, the junta is doing everything to completely deprive its state of legal capacity. The last is the creation of a nuclear repository for which they will pay off debts, for there is no money, only debts.
    Already with horror we begin to understand what remains of Russia. After all, the militias will go forward, which is normal, they will finish off the Khokhlyat Nazis, and then they will turn to us for help!
    I think that in the USA they perfectly understand this and give orders to their subordinates Porosenko, Nalivaiko, Yaytsenyuk - to destroy everything that is possible.
    Now Kolomoisky is threatening to blow up a state district power station. There remains a Ruin full of zombies.
    And these zombies are by no means friends. Ie repetition of the post-war option. For 10 years, the struggle against Bandera, embittered and stupid.
    Again the fires and killings and the gloating of neighbors in the former Warsaw Union. Already real enemies.
    Who will say that they are partners? Poland, Hungary and even Bulgaria. No, there are adequate people there, so they were in fascist Germany.
  17. MSA
    MSA 30 August 2014 09: 32
    +6
    The Ukrainian army is suffocating, Russia has not introduced troops, all plans of the American junta have collapsed, apparently there will soon be a denouement.
  18. saag
    saag 30 August 2014 09: 45
    +7
    Quote: victorrat
    Now Kolomoisky threatens to blow up a state district power station

    He still didn’t have imagination before the nuclear power plant, or there was no order
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 30 August 2014 10: 29
      +5
      Quote: saag
      Quote: victorrat
      Now Kolomoisky threatens to blow up a state district power station
      He still didn’t have imagination before the nuclear power plant, or there was no order

      The example of Chernobyl and Fukushima showed that it is enough for high-tech production to RANDOMLY violate the technology of work and the desired result will be provided. "Didn't work ... For a reason ... And, as a consequence ... No one was interested in ... Please accept our condolences for what happened!"
  19. pahom54
    pahom54 30 August 2014 09: 58
    +10
    In fact, at the moment Donbass has become one big "cauldron" for Ukraine, in which a new state is "cooked" (prepared) and is being born ... And thank God ...
  20. delorian
    delorian 30 August 2014 11: 04
    +6
    after the launch of Donetsk and Lugansk metallurgical plants with raw materials, they will not have problems for a long time laughing
    1. Nikoha.2010
      Nikoha.2010 30 August 2014 11: 14
      +8
      Quote: Delorian
      after the launch of Donetsk and Lugansk metallurgical plants with raw materials, they will not have problems for a long time laughing

      The problem is one - peaceful people and opponents of the junta are dying. The consequences are unpredictable, the infrastructure is destroyed by 70%. It will be very difficult, but the third Maidan and the victory of the militias cannot be avoided by the Kiev junta. We won’t leave our loved ones, hold on to the New Russians!
  21. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 30 August 2014 11: 38
    +5
    As much as possible to preserve the country's infrastructure, which collapses into a self-dug hole. The prospect of a military victory is quite obvious. The prospect of an economic disaster, unfortunately, is also. Dill to spite mother frostbite ears, but the EU and the mattress will have nothing to show. And Russia will have to pull it out of the swamp into which they climbed on their own. Okay, pull it out, not the first time. But the belts will have to be tightened.
  22. Anisim1977
    Anisim1977 30 August 2014 11: 54
    +4
    Brothers of Novorossiya I want to give advice to the "couch strategist":
    1) We surround Mariupol along the DNR border line. Let the boiler be steamed in its own juice.
    2) The uprising in Dnepropetrovsk (as a pretext) - a throw to the "beni" lair - we surround and steam up.
    3) Without capturing the city - go to the border line of Odessa, Dnepropetrovsk, Kirovograd, Sumy - with the central regions of Ukraine.
    The idea is the following - it is easier to maintain a more or less straight front line, I think even an anti-tank moat will not damage this ditch line.
    And without reinforcements, dill in New Russia in boilers melting quickly becomes soup.
    The main idea is to leave Kharkov and Zaporozhye for self-healing, and direct the direction of the main blow to the "beni" lair - we will destroy the virus, the body will be healed!
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 30 August 2014 12: 57
      +2
      Quote: Anisim1977
      Brothers of Novorossiya I want to give advice to the "couch strategist":
      ... direct the direction of the main blow to the "beni" lair - we will destroy the virus, the body will be healed!

      Beni's lair is not in the Dnieper (there is only a branch), but in Switzerland, do you propose to land troops in Switzerland? In Bern or Geneva? Fantast!
  23. gfhjkm
    gfhjkm 30 August 2014 11: 57
    +11
    A Ukrainian pilot captives tells how Donetsk bombed while he was from Gorlovka where his closest relatives live, mother Shevtsova Nina Dmitrievna, Profinterna street 4 and Irina sister, Club 76 street. YES WHAT ARE THERE SMOKING THERE AH? to fly their loved ones to bomb fool
    1. Sergeqr
      Sergeqr 30 August 2014 12: 16
      +4
      Hard eyes ...
      He wanted to become Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force, so he bombed his own. He served ...
    2. Eugenenl
      Eugenenl 30 August 2014 12: 27
      +6
      As I agree with you! I have relatives in the Belgorod region, they have many friends, whose relatives turned out to be in Sumy and in Kharkov provinces. And these relatives consider Russia to be an occupier without exception, they completely abandon kinship with the Russians! But they themselves were Russian, just received a crust of Ukrainian citizenship during the collapse of the USSR. Imagine when a sibling claims to not know his brother! It’s like they’ve been brainwashed in dill for all these years! Well, nothing, the truth will triumph anyway, the brains will fall into place and come with repentance.
      1. TOR2
        TOR2 31 August 2014 12: 32
        +2
        Based on the fact that you set out to the militia, you need to attack carefully. First of all, to occupy those areas where the population is not saturated with the Bandera infection, and let the rest be cured.
    3. UFO
      UFO 30 August 2014 12: 33
      +4
      This "movie" should be disseminated as much as possible! As a video tutorial on the topic of "Ukropaganda" by Western orders, what you can reach by listening to the maydanuts. belay
    4. lex loci
      lex loci 1 September 2014 16: 07
      0
      A true Bandera and his mother will not regret it. After all, they are quilted jackets and females of Colorado.
  24. shturman112
    shturman112 30 August 2014 12: 11
    +4
    I think that puppeteers in Washington were obliged to count such a development. Not stupid people, unfortunately. With ANY development of the situation, Russia, in their opinion, should remain the loser. Will the Ruin be independent and extremely hostile to Russia, or we will need to restore the ruins. One can only hope for a breakthrough, as after the Great Patriotic War, which is very doubtful. But Russia has no other way.
  25. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 30 August 2014 12: 20
    +5
    A grandiose ass is approaching Ukraine. And they called her to themselves, with their jumps. Is it necessary to be such as to squander a pretty good country for half a year? The EU is now in a quiet ahui - they need it, it’s not clear what joined ?!
  26. svp67
    svp67 30 August 2014 12: 23
    +6
    From the site "Mariupol Today" ...
    ==
    Well, what else from the city news ... Ah! A huge flag of Ukraine hung at the drama theater - they say they have already removed it. They did the same with a few flags in strategically important places in the city. Interestingly, fences and ballot boxes will also be repainted? Maybe Lenin will be returned?
    ...
    Who convinced us that the situation in the city was stable and there was no reason to panic? They escaped first, only the heels sparkled. It seems that the bosses at city enterprises also fled. Wherever we call today, we are answered that there has been no leadership for two days and it is not known when it will appear. In the police, by the way, the same picture. Tree sticks! It seems that a planet without bosses has appeared on planet Earth!

    It looks like the fighters Lyashka and Mosiychuk ("AZOV" that is) are also hastily leaving. They threw their crumpled jihad-mobiles with us, got into the only serviceable ambulance and left. Even "Glory to Ukraine!" did not shout. Will they come back again or have other cities gone to "liberate"?

    Meanwhile, we have resumed political information. Nobody is called separatists anymore, everyone is ordered to "lie under Putin."

    In the city, stores of blue-red-white matter are rapidly melting in stores. Fabric sellers were not ready for unexpected demand ...
  27. divangeneral
    divangeneral 30 August 2014 12: 28
    +4
    Quote: EugeneNL
    As I agree with you! I have relatives in the Belgorod region, they have many friends, whose relatives turned out to be in Sumy and in Kharkov provinces. And these relatives consider Russia to be an occupier without exception, they completely abandon kinship with the Russians! But they themselves were Russian, just received a crust of Ukrainian citizenship during the collapse of the USSR. Imagine when a sibling claims to not know his brother! It’s like they’ve been brainwashed in dill for all these years! Well, nothing, the truth will triumph anyway, the brains will fall into place and come with repentance.


    need denazification of Ukraine. and for this we need a military victory of New Russia
  28. Alfizik
    Alfizik 30 August 2014 12: 52
    +2
    God grant that this is not "the death of the country", but the first step towards the revival of Ukraine, free from the Nazis. And everyone who jumps the Bandera hopak to the western border of Ukraine.
  29. Major Yurik
    Major Yurik 30 August 2014 12: 53
    +3
    Catching constantly cannon fodder into fights, what happens should happen. The meat is the meat, and sooner or later it should be in the boiler.
  30. Zomanus
    Zomanus 30 August 2014 12: 55
    +1
    Well, bullshit. The country tried to become truly independent. But I didn’t choose those who were fellow travelers along this path. Well, these fellow travelers, telling her tales and instructing her in every possible way, would undress the square to the bottom and unless they were raped in all forms. And maybe they would. And then this square one in snot and debt will come to us, so that we would again warm it and feed it.
    1. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 30 August 2014 19: 23
      +1
      I WILL NOT pay debts for them !!!! I have enough that I paid per click EBNa! stop
  31. Twilight
    Twilight 30 August 2014 13: 10
    +3
    Quote: Cadet787
    30.08.2014 - 10: 00
    Cowards or heroes? 75 “defenders of Novoazovsk” returned to Vinnitsa.

    75 employees of the 9th territorial defense battalion came to their homeland from Mariupol, where they voluntarily retreated from near Novoazovsk. The company commander who was in Mariupol wrote down the word “cowards” on military tickets and sent them back. They themselves claim that they spent two days under fire at the checkpoints without any help, with only machine guns. Relatives chanted "Heroes!".
    “We are no longer afraid of anything. It is not clear what our fault is. The other guys also wrote reports, but they stupidly tore them up. One soldier also wanted to leave. He has a disabled wife and three children. They don’t even give a vacation. We were thrown there like cannon fodder. There is nothing to fight. Some machines with us and all. For two weeks, our equipment was raised, and before the attack they were taken back to Zaporozhye. We will do our best to get our guys back from there, ”Vitaliy shows the ticket.
    They note that the command of the battalion should be immediately changed. The commander of the first company resorts to provocations, behaves inappropriately and not evenly.
    “Specially, so as not to go to the post, Major Petr Melnichenko gets drunk. Somehow got drunk to delirium tremens. He took and drove a knife to Captain Alexei Kondre. Now he is injured in a hospital in Dnepropetrovsk, the soldiers say. - Everything is done to embroil the fighters. They’ve just boiled porridge turned upside down, or they’ll come up with something else. This should be noted. If the command enters into disputes with the personnel, they should pick it up. Otherwise, they will shoot him. ”
    The military commissar Gennady Dolgashov invited all the fighters to discuss everything behind closed doors without the press and relatives. They did not want to. After half an hour of negotiations, we agreed to let in a representative of only one central channel. After that, everyone went home. According to Lieutenant Colonel Alexei Ostrovoy, who will be fit for service will again go to Donbass. Like, the soldiers swore allegiance to Ukraine.
    A month and a half ago, relatives of soldiers of the 9th battalion asked for rotation. In Mauripol there are 400 more people left from the battalion “Vinnitsa”

    * Battalions of territorial defense * - read the volunteers, that is, they were consciously going to clean up and kill those who disagree with the junta of civilians or not. THEY WOULD KILL, so what kind of understanding and mercy they could be talking about (I mean humanitarian corridors). Parts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine can and can be released, many not of their own free will. And such as * the basics * and so on, it is necessary to hail and tanks to the Earth asphalt ...
  32. Twilight
    Twilight 30 August 2014 13: 20
    +1
    And most importantly, the junta is doing everything to completely deprive its state of legal capacity. The last is the creation of a nuclear repository for which they will pay off debts, for there is no money, only debts.
    Already with horror we begin to understand what remains of Russia. After all, the militias will go forward, which is normal, they will finish off the Khokhlyat Nazis, and then they will turn to us for help!
    I think that in the USA they perfectly understand this and give orders to their subordinates Porosenko, Nalivaiko, Yaytsenyuk - to destroy everything that is possible.
    Now Kolomoisky is threatening to blow up a state district power station. There remains a Ruin full of zombies.
    And these zombies are by no means friends. Ie repetition of the post-war option. For 10 years, the struggle against Bandera, embittered and stupid.
    +++ Plus because it’s a very correct remark ... We will again have to restore it as after the Patriotic War, because we will never abandon our Slavic blood to our fate (in our Irkutsk Region two more convoys come with a thousand refugees, it’s already arrived and so all over the country)
    1. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 30 August 2014 19: 26
      +3
      still these refugees would understand that they are refugees, not parasites !!! need to work! they only require ... though not all, a lot of adequate people.
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  34. givigor71
    givigor71 30 August 2014 13: 31
    +2
    Good luck to the militia in the destruction of banderlog. FOR VICTORY!!!drinks
  35. nahalenok911
    nahalenok911 30 August 2014 13: 44
    +4
    CSKA New Russia! Thank you for the courage and intransigence in the struggle! This is your Great Liberation War! It sounds like slogans, but since February I have been living in a boiler brewed in Ukraine. I don’t have relatives there, but my heart is contracting from the injustice that is happening with our BROTHERS. BROTHERS !!!
  36. The point
    The point 30 August 2014 13: 46
    +3
    "The bestial cruelty of the Ukrainian punishers awakened a terrible destructive force in the ancient Cossack land. And, most likely, on bastard Ukraine ".
    As said! Bravo!
  37. Eugenenl
    Eugenenl 30 August 2014 14: 00
    +5
    It's time in Dill to release a new shooter game. You will need to go through 3 levels:
    1. Being surrounded to have time to undermine all your scrap metal, throw a gun and raise a white flag. The level has a time limit. I didn’t have time - the volley of hail, the game is lost.
    2. Thoroughly sweep Donetsk. The way out of the level is complete cleanliness and empty cesspools.
    3. On time. Have time to run home. Did not have time - a burning wick reaches explosives in the ass.
    4. Prize level: find and shoot Lyashko, Poroshenko and other mutants.

    Distribute the game to all Ukrainians for free, give the first batch to the army. Use as a combat training aid.
  38. KRNovoros
    KRNovoros 30 August 2014 15: 22
    +4
    Gunners, gave the shooters an order!
    Gunners Calling the Fatherland of Us!
    Of hundreds of our batteries,
    For the tears of lovely mothers
    For New Russia - the fire! Fire!
  39. Support
    Support 30 August 2014 17: 42
    +1
    I look at all this bacchanalia and think that if a Ukrainian is a nationality, then I would not want to wish this even to my enemies. And in general, it doesn’t matter to me anymore that women, children ... Who brought up these warriors? And not only a warrior ... Initially? What principles inspired them? And who inspired? These are fathers, mothers, grandparents. And then media propaganda. They cut down the bitches they were sitting on. They now need to fall and disappear .... from the face of the Earth.
  40. faterdom
    faterdom 30 August 2014 18: 28
    +2
    How should the current news that the army of Novorossiya managed to free Luxembourg be pleased with the euhoo ...
    It hints how a good half of Americans were perplexed in August 2008, what ... Russia sent troops to Georgia ...
  41. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov 30 August 2014 18: 29
    0
    are there really sober analysts in the west?)))) Another adventure - with the methods of warfare, which teach in the military academies of Western countries to defeat the Slavs)))) Well they do not
  42. Fedor
    Fedor 30 August 2014 18: 31
    0
    Kiev has no full-fledged and capable army. And this was no secret to anyone even before the start of hostilities. To start a war without an army and military allies is not just a stupid adventure, but frank madness. But, nevertheless, Kiev began the war.

    The trouble is that these woodpeckers from Kuev sincerely understood nothing of this. In the same way, they do not understand even now that the country does not and did not have not only an army, but in general all the necessary attributes of the state. All law enforcement agencies are absolutely corrupted by corruption or nepotism and protectionism, the Cabinet is the same, etc. And an important point for understanding the current situation - they are all rare profane, envious dropouts and mediocrity (this situation has developed partly as a legacy of Soviet times, when they moved forward "convenient" people, and partly as a continuation of the same system in the current conditions with the addition of protectionism by nationality). Moreover, due to the fact that they have no illusions about their business, mental and moral qualities, they experience a burning hatred of people who are more capable, more educated and simply more decent. The state of affairs with the pseudo-state of Ukraine itself is a direct consequence of the above.
  43. cosmos132
    cosmos132 30 August 2014 19: 45
    0
    Tasks defined by Zakharchenko:
    "We are continuing the offensive, finishing cleaning the cauldron, helping to break through the corridor between Donetsk and Lugansk. We are preparing a second large-scale offensive."
  44. skeptic2999
    skeptic2999 30 August 2014 22: 57
    +2
    Quote: cosmos132
    Tasks defined by Zakharchenko:
    "We are continuing the offensive, finishing cleaning the cauldron, helping to break through the corridor between Donetsk and Lugansk. We are preparing a second large-scale offensive."

    God and Russia to help you guys. And let Europe and the United States stick their next package of sanctions, you know where ...
  45. Roust
    Roust 31 August 2014 07: 55
    +1
    The ukrovoyaki crawling out of the boiler will begin the third Maidan in Kiev ... However.
  46. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 31 August 2014 13: 29
    +1
    Good article.
    It is necessary to clean / destroy the boilers, which pull back significant militia forces, and then, when there is no danger in the rear of the rearrangement of the militia forces to strike in the north.
  47. ROM76K.
    ROM76K. 31 August 2014 22: 27
    0
    I hope Ukraine does not last long!
  48. Gray 43
    Gray 43 31 August 2014 23: 33
    +1
    It is urgently necessary to restore the broadcasting of our TV in the liberated territories so that people know the truth, maybe they will see sooner
  49. dilyanna
    dilyanna 1 September 2014 02: 07
    0
    Perhaps I am ahead of events ... or maybe it seems, but in fact the Ukrainian army is not, because of this, what is Poroshenko and his team doing in Kiev?
    1. lonovila
      lonovila 1 September 2014 03: 17
      0
      -Yes, you are ahead of events ... -The business has not yet been completed and the main tasks have not been completed ...
      -And the war is still going on in the territory of the DPR and LPR (and the airports have not even been taken yet) ...
      -Because Little Russia itself is not only the DPR and LPR ...
      -A Kharkov, and Odessa, etc. ..? -Historical Little Russia consists of six provinces ...
      -And four of them are under dill ... -And there is a war in two ... -Do the militias have enough forces ... -In spite of the humanitarian aid, Russia does not help the militias sufficiently heavily ... -I need a well-armed uniform personnel army ... -And in Little Russia it has just begun to take shape and is not so numerous ...
  50. wanderer
    wanderer 1 September 2014 10: 38
    0
    look at these freaks (((they do not regret anything and do not repent. Report from Dubovoy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1mLGgUIYAM#t=411