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Skilled workers of the Ukrainian aviation industry are invited to work in Russia

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Given the growing demand of the Russian aircraft industry for new personnel, the Ministry of Industry and Trade has prepared a program aimed at adapting qualified workers from neighboring Ukraine to domestic enterprises, reports CCI-Inform.



The Deputy Minister of Industry and Trade, Yuri Slusar, said: “We have a program for employees aviation industry of Ukraine, ready to come to Russia. The program involves social adaptation, housing and citizenship issues ”.

According to the newspaper, "the fleet of helicopters in the southern regions of Russia in the last decade showed a sharp increase and continues to increase." Both military and civilian operators require new facilities to service this modern technology. The industrialists are planning to build another plant to repair the helicopter fleet, as well as an enterprise for the production of helicopter blades made of composite materials.

Considering that new productions will require more than one hundred qualified specialists, the Ministry of Industry and Trade has developed its program for the adaptation of migrant workers.
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  1. Vend
    Vend 29 August 2014 14: 51
    +40
    Ay bravo, well done. Deprive Nazis of qualified personnel. Competently. And Russia’s profit.
    1. The comment was deleted.
      1. Момент
        Момент 29 August 2014 14: 56
        +23
        The leadership of the Lugansk machine-building plant decided to remove workers and the most valuable equipment to Russia, in particular to Chuvashia, to start living and working in their new homeland. Therefore, the Lugansk machine-builder will soon receive its rebirth near Cheboksary, although it will be for thousand kilometers from Lugansk.
        http://www.newsli.ru/news/ussr/ekonomika/9392



        And why do ukropia specialists? In Russia, they are definitely needed.
    2. lelikas
      lelikas 29 August 2014 14: 57
      +16
      Quote: Wend
      Ay bravo, well done. Deprive Nazis of qualified personnel. Competently. And Russia’s profit.

      Aw, wow, wow, I still find you wow .... (C) Lolita
      You have to teach your own and bring up the same.
      1. kr33sania
        kr33sania 29 August 2014 15: 24
        +4
        Just yesterday...
      2. Vend
        Vend 29 August 2014 15: 34
        +5
        Quote: lelikas
        Quote: Wend
        Ay bravo, well done. Deprive Nazis of qualified personnel. Competently. And Russia’s profit.

        Aw, wow, wow, I still find you wow .... (C) Lolita
        You have to teach your own and bring up the same.

        They learn and educate their own. In vain do you think the Russian president regularly visits Seliger? Believe me, most technical universities have long been working for enterprises. Graduates get guaranteed jobs.
      3. typhoon7
        typhoon7 29 August 2014 15: 48
        +5
        Welcome all. I watched the last interview of Pavel Gubarev today. He said that Novorossia is at least eight regions of Eastern Ukraine, but he does not exclude that Kiev and other regions of Central Ukraine may enter there. He also said that events will move quickly. Based on this, it can be assumed that basically the entire industry will remain in Novorossiya, although of course everything is in a deplorable state there, in any case, the developments, samples, and the design bureaus themselves and the Antonov factories would not like to lose forever.
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 29 August 2014 16: 32
          +5
          Quote: typhoon7
          these are at least eight areas

          Excuse me, do you see these eight areas ?? Me not! I see only parasites on the neck of Donetsk and Lugansk. Of course, I can believe that representatives of other regions are fighting among the militias in Novorossia, but this does not mean that the regions are on the side of the militias.
          That's when the Zaporozhye, Odessa, Dnepropetrovsk and even more so the Kharkov regions will come out against the brutalized Westerners who received weapons in their paws, then I will count them. In the meantime, they are all hangers-on from the category "myhataskrayu"
    3. Juborg
      Juborg 29 August 2014 15: 15
      +3
      Not very sure about the integrity of these workers. it will still be migrant workers, but there is no faith and cannot be, given the situation with the propaganda of Russophobia in dill. And judging by those refugees arriving in Russia, they won’t scatter too much work. And we have a lot of parasites in Russia. I don’t argue that among them there are working people who are able and willing to work in Russia, but this percentage is scanty, the majority are negatively related to Russia and Russians and there’s no reason to expect any returns from them, and the field is very sensitive, the aviation industry is do not make lighters and grow beets. Who will be responsible for sabotage or sabotage at these enterprises ??? This is not an option, we must create our own potential of qualified specialists, and not invite Svidomo (potential saboteurs). I would like to believe that a visitor from the former Ukraine is sincere, but I can’t believe it!
      1. user1212
        user1212 29 August 2014 15: 33
        +10
        Aviation industry in Ukraine Khan. A lot of unemployed specialists will remain. If we don't pick them up, then the Chinese will pick them up. This also applies to rocketry. China has big plans. Do you think Russia will greatly benefit from this? Caution is good and necessary, but it is also not necessary to fall into insanity. We are not the "right sector"
      2. nvv
        nvv 29 August 2014 15: 55
        0
        Obolvannye not go, scared of the Gulag. I don’t know if anyone will go.
      3. kimyth1
        kimyth1 29 August 2014 16: 27
        +1
        I fully support! I wanted to write the same thing drinks
      4. Homohuman
        Homohuman 29 August 2014 19: 56
        +3
        I agree with you that the percentage of people who are able and willing to work in Russia is scanty. But in Ukraine there are Russian-speaking and Russian people who are tired of what is happening in the "Square". They are tired of how the arrogant and arrogant Ukrainians, who most often do not see beyond their noses, treat them, and they are ready to leave. However, many of those who would like to go will not go to work in Russia, because they need to leave their home, relatives, friends and acquaintances that they already have, and in a new place there is only the prospect of finding it.
        1. Alan
          Alan 29 August 2014 21: 35
          0
          Quote: HomoHuman
          to abandon their home, relatives, friends and acquaintances that they already have, and in a new place there is only the prospect of finding it.


          I do not agree with you, all of the above can be obtained in your own country. Itself 11 years ago threw all that you listed and went to the North; never regretted. The regret was that he had not done this before, and the matter is not even in material wealth (although this is not unimportant), the matter is in relation to you and your professional qualities. And with friends, the relationship did not break off.
      5. Alf
        Alf 29 August 2014 23: 19
        0
        Quote: juborg
        Not very sure about the integrity of these workers. it will still be migrant workers, but there is no faith and cannot be, given the situation with the propaganda of Russophobia in dill. And judging by those refugees arriving in Russia, they won’t scatter too much work.

        This issue can be resolved in a very simple trial period for 1 year. If you work well, we will help you, you work badly - "sorry, you do not suit us, buy a ticket to uk-ropia yourself."
        . Who will be responsible for sabotage or sabotage at these enterprises ???

        And why are we feeding the office then? And about complete trust in general is out of the question. For the first year or two, the office will have to look in the ass, "are there any illegal thoughts there?"
    4. 1812 1945
      1812 1945 29 August 2014 15: 35
      +2
      A very correct and timely decision. Due to the circumstances, Ukraine did not produce immensely "lawyers" and "economists". There are also specialists in the field of real production, not managers. It's time to solve our problems and support people, deprived, by the evil will of the Anglo-Saxons and their dill lackeys, of the opportunity to feed their families.
    5. Giant thought
      Giant thought 29 August 2014 15: 55
      +1
      Good specialists in Russia are very necessary in all sectors of the economy, therefore, if one of the Ukrainian specialists wants to work at Russian enterprises, in particular the aircraft industry, then, I think, he will be happy to be hired and help with housing.
    6. WAN
      WAN 29 August 2014 16: 11
      +2
      There is evidence from work partners that already from dill, a lot of valuable personnel have arrived and are working for our defense industry. The guys are really specialists!
    7. zg78u5
      zg78u5 30 August 2014 01: 24
      0
      laughing IL-76 is already being collected in Ulyanovsk ....
  2. Stypor23
    Stypor23 29 August 2014 14: 52
    +11
    Right, a great idea, but in the beginning, skip through counterintelligence.
  3. Sly
    Sly 29 August 2014 14: 52
    +3
    super! just great!
  4. Telakh
    Telakh 29 August 2014 14: 53
    +9
    I don’t know how Motorsich, but Antonov has been peeping out from under a copper basin since the beginning of the year. Only spare parts and repair orders are interrupted.
    1. sso-xnumx
      sso-xnumx 29 August 2014 15: 28
      0
      Yes, from the very beginning of the division, the entire team of the OKB and the Antonov plant had to be exported to Russia along with the design documentation. And now their own transport workers and main lines with the name "AN" would fly over Russia!
      1. Telakh
        Telakh 29 August 2014 16: 41
        +1
        We have ILs and Carcasses that for some reason do not fly. But Poghosyan with the money.
      2. Alfer
        Alfer 30 August 2014 00: 08
        0
        Yes, everyone destroyed their design bureaus. And Antonov's design bureau at least somehow exists. And we buy Boeings from amers from the fence.
  5. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 29 August 2014 14: 53
    +13
    KB Antonov ditched in 23 years of "independence" ... such Antei and Mriya did under the USSR.
    1. Stypor23
      Stypor23 29 August 2014 14: 55
      +2
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      KB Antonov ditched in 23 years of "independence" ... such Antei and Mriya did under the USSR.

      I thought that, for example, the Chinese would want to bring to mind the 2nd Mriya.
    2. user1212
      user1212 29 August 2014 15: 57
      +3
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      KB Antonov ditched in 23 years of "independence" ... such Antei and Mriya did under the USSR.


      I would be glad to agree that dill is to blame for everything, but ... Tu, Yak, Il, MiG. We are good fellows ourselves
    3. Alfer
      Alfer 30 August 2014 00: 06
      0
      And what did they do? Was it not so much that it was broken up and plundered? In my opinion, tragedy is still on a large scale. How many plants have been destroyed in Russia.
  6. fzr1000
    fzr1000 29 August 2014 14: 53
    +6
    Welcome to Russia, aircraft manufacturers! Together we will revive the domestic aircraft industry. There would be even more plants.
  7. Roman1970
    Roman1970 29 August 2014 14: 54
    +5
    Cadres decide everything. Especially qualified.
  8. Pazifist87
    Pazifist87 29 August 2014 14: 55
    +1
    And where to go? MAI graduates, for example? We clearly have a lot of qualified aviation engineers, many have to work outside of aviation. Idiocy, no one will appreciate such chivalrous steps.
    1. Stypor23
      Stypor23 29 August 2014 14: 58
      +4
      Quote: Pazifist87
      And where to go? MAI graduates, for example? We clearly have a lot of qualified aviation engineers, many have to work outside of aviation. Idiocy, no one will appreciate such chivalrous steps.

      Nezya specialists leave fascists No. . Forced step. Moreover, as many Asians and others are imported that it is 100 times worse.
    2. DV69
      DV69 29 August 2014 15: 06
      +3
      Quote: Pazifist87
      And where to go? MAI graduates, for example? We clearly have a lot of qualified aviation engineers, many have to work outside of aviation. Idiocy, no one will appreciate such chivalrous steps.


      Everyone needs to be involved. and MAI graduates and specialists from Ukraine.
      In order for specialists to be arranged, it is necessary to raise their aviation industry.
      And about the graduates of the Moscow Aviation Institute. Please tell me, many of them are ready to go to work at the aviation industry enterprises? After all, these enterprises are mostly located not in the capital, but in the periphery. Are there many who want to go to Ulyanovsk or Komsomolsk-on-Amur?
      1. Pazifist87
        Pazifist87 29 August 2014 15: 12
        +1
        And what about all the graduates from Moscow?
        ZP + housing and guaranteed work in the specialty, not a very bad incentive. Why create knowingly winning conditions for Ukrainian specialists in front of ours?
        1. fzr1000
          fzr1000 29 August 2014 15: 16
          +2
          Many MAI graduates who are not Muscovites tend to stay in Moscow afterwards. Many Muscovites graduates do not go to work in their specialty. It is.
          Graduate of the 2nd faculty of MAI 1993.
    3. avt
      avt 29 August 2014 15: 16
      +3
      Quote: Pazifist87
      And where to go? MAI graduates, for example?

      There is such a concept - school, the succession of generations has not been canceled. After graduation, young specialists, specifically in production, need to learn from middle-aged masters. It's okay if, having thrust super ambitions and claims on salaries, they learn from competent specialists from the same Antonov - only benefit and a huge reserve for their not so distant future. They will not notice how 7-10 years will fly by and they will walk in trump cards, well, under the condition if they really do not catch flies with their mouths, but they will learn.
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    4. kr33sania
      kr33sania 29 August 2014 15: 26
      +3
      Skilled movers are also worth its weight in gold ...
      1. Stypor23
        Stypor23 29 August 2014 15: 32
        +1
        Quote: kr33sania
        Skilled movers are also worth its weight in gold ...

        I support, especially those who can steer punishment and sparks, as well as having computer skills. wink
    5. screw cutter
      screw cutter 29 August 2014 18: 00
      +1
      Quote: Pazifist87
      And where to go? MAI graduates, for example? We clearly have a lot of qualified aviation engineers, many have to work outside of aviation. Idiocy, no one will appreciate such chivalrous steps.

      Those who went to MAI to build planes, planes to build, regardless of the VP, and those who went to MAI for a prestigious diploma, those aircraft are not needed.
    6. Alfer
      Alfer 30 August 2014 00: 04
      0
      Yes, you said everything correctly. You need to restore your personnel, and not save some Ukrainian specialists in eroplanes. What kind of people are we all the same. Your hell with them. But brothers who hate us, by the way, need to be saved. And for me, and to hell with them with those ukrospetsami.
      1. Stypor23
        Stypor23 30 August 2014 02: 45
        0
        Quote: Alfer
        Yes, you said everything correctly. You need to restore your personnel, and not save some Ukrainian specialists in eroplanes. What kind of people are we all the same. Your hell with them. But brothers who hate us, by the way, need to be saved. And for me, and to hell with them with those ukrospetsami.

        You are absolutely right, but this salvation will be directed at the interests of Russia. Remember the German scientists who drove to them 70 years ago as trophies.
  9. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 29 August 2014 14: 55
    +2
    Yes, in Ukraine there are good specialists, they helped us a lot, especially since they all allowed the new government there
  10. viktorrymar
    viktorrymar 29 August 2014 14: 55
    +7
    It is necessary to collect all really worthy specialists, they are more expensive than gold, take care of them and value them.
  11. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 29 August 2014 14: 56
    +1
    Do not come saboteurs and saboteurs? And then they won’t tighten the gadget ... You don’t have to call everyone together. Every one should be checked carefully - tea will not be produced by tin teapots.
    1. flSergius
      flSergius 29 August 2014 15: 05
      +1
      tea not tin teapots will produce
      request

      Of course, tea is produced on plantations, and teapots do not produce anything, this is dishes, it is simply brewed in them laughing
    2. Alfer
      Alfer 30 August 2014 00: 01
      0
      So it can be easier not to call them here. That would then be checked. They want to Europe. Well, let them go there. Without them, more fun.
  12. Good cat
    Good cat 29 August 2014 14: 56
    +5
    Enough space for everyone! As if MAI graduates would go to Chuvashia, it’s better to be a manager in Moscow
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    2. Alfer
      Alfer 29 August 2014 23: 59
      +1
      We must probably provide the conditions for our own people. And our government should do this. The President. The Duma. At the places of power. And the devil knows what they are doing. They don’t think about their people. All thoughts are about some Ukrainians. Who should be brought here arrange. And create conditions. Like these Svidomo and without it, little is hanging around in Russia. In my opinion, three million feed here.
  13. Sanglier
    Sanglier 29 August 2014 14: 57
    +2
    The most interesting thing is that it is not necessary to go far. The climate in Voronezh or Samara differs little from the Ukrainian one. True, it is colder in winter in Kazan, and so ... we are asking for mercy!
    1. Alfer
      Alfer 29 August 2014 23: 55
      -1
      They have nothing to do in my Voronezh. Yes, and in Russia too. The climate will not suit them here. Let them jump to Europe. For their own conditions, it is necessary to create conditions and not to import any kind of abomination from Ukraine.
    2. Cristall
      Cristall 30 August 2014 00: 12
      0
      Quote: Sanglier
      The climate in Voronezh or Samara differs little from the Ukrainian one. True, it is colder in winter in Kazan, and so ... we are asking for mercy!

      Not much from Kharkov (continentalism will certainly let you know), but from Nikolaev .. excuse me ..
  14. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 August 2014 14: 58
    +2
    Considering that new productions will require more than one hundred qualified specialists, the Ministry of Industry and Trade has developed its program for the adaptation of migrant workers.

    At the same time, one must not forget that the special services of the ukraine will necessarily take advantage of this under the patronage of the United States.
    I support Stypor23 (2).
  15. Loner_53
    Loner_53 29 August 2014 14: 59
    +3
    SO KEEP COMRADE! smile
  16. Pazifist87
    Pazifist87 29 August 2014 15: 04
    +6
    Who would give a domestic university graduate an apartment, or at least a job in his specialty for the initial acquisition of experience! Everywhere they want already with experience. They would be better provided with at least normal practice. Yes, and there are big doubts about the qualifications of their specialists, they have had the whole industry there for 23 years in agony and convulsions. All the standing specialists fled for a long time, including us. In general, all this "for the catchphrase ..."
  17. Naval
    Naval 29 August 2014 15: 08
    +3
    That's right, scientific, engineering and technical workers, this is capital, which must be valued and cherished. Not for nothing that the Americans after the war took German scientists and engineers to their homes. And they were created by Werner von Braun, the Nazi designer of the Fau and Fau2 missiles. And when you consider that a smarter Ukrainian becomes Russian, then we can have a lot of benefit from these people.
  18. erased
    erased 29 August 2014 15: 19
    +1
    The right decision. Qualified employees like air are needed. If only they didn’t start playing divers. Here you need to check them out. And so let them work and live normally.
  19. 0255
    0255 29 August 2014 15: 32
    +2
    right, why do aircraft manufacturers need dill - the Antonov Design Bureau and Motor Sich were built by the evil invaders. If they want independence, so they will be independent from the aviation industry, along with gas!
  20. ddmm09
    ddmm09 29 August 2014 15: 35
    +1
    Such decisions will further weaken the position of the Kiev junta. The people of Ukraine in this case will understand that they are only hostages of the war of the West against Russia. In this case, the Zepedents does not count; these will not learn anything from the lesson taught to them.
    1. Alfer
      Alfer 29 August 2014 23: 52
      0
      They don’t understand anything there. Nobody says there. Stop the war.
  21. Not served
    Not served 29 August 2014 15: 47
    +5
    Do not be naive. SBU is working, there are lists of travel abroad. They are now rowing everyone into the army for up to 50 years.
    About ours, MAI and universities. The problem is not with the engineers (although they already have them too). The problem is skilled workers who can read blueprints. In Moscow, in the same design bureau, there are pilot plants (workshops). So there are laboratory workers over 60, and there are those over 70. Young people are not allowed to be hired, since there is a staffing table and, like, take a guy under the "grandfather" it does not work, and yes, and the RFP is not at all funny.
    Moscow is generally a tumor of Russia. 15% of the population gathered on a piece of territory, which does not really produce anything, but serves itself. It pulls everyone like a magnet and no one wants to go back to the regions to work in the same factories. Everyone wants to sit in offices. I have a lot of friends with MAIShnikov, Baumantsev mainly work as IT IT specialists.
  22. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 29 August 2014 15: 48
    +1
    Do not let frames disappear. On the icy outskirts you should not leave them for the winter. May not survive.
    1. Alfer
      Alfer 29 August 2014 23: 51
      -1
      They won’t survive and to hell with them. They arranged it for themselves so. Then they jump on Maidan and scream Ukraine and Europe. They tear there. So they put a flag in their hands and a drum around their neck. What are we worried about? We need more for our people think. And for them, let Obama and Merkel think.
      1. Cristall
        Cristall 30 August 2014 00: 15
        0
        Quote: Alfer
        They won’t survive and to hell with them. They arranged it for themselves. Then they jump on Maidan and scream Ukraine and Europe. They tear there. So they put a flag in their hands and a drum around their neck. What are we worried about? We need more for our people think. And for them, let Obama and Merkel think

        I’m sitting and thinking, but it’s fun to watch how some Kharkov engineer or like Malysheva shouts like that with KB ...
        Only now, when there was Maidan, the East and the south worked ... and angrily expressed dissatisfaction with the outrage.
        1. Alfer
          Alfer 30 August 2014 10: 18
          0
          Yes, the same Kharkov engineer is now screaming that Ueraina is Europe. Enough for you to be naive.
  23. Zheka40
    Zheka40 29 August 2014 15: 50
    0
    Quote: lelikas
    Quote: Wend
    Ay bravo, well done. Deprive Nazis of qualified personnel. Competently. And Russia’s profit.

    Aw, wow, wow, I still find you wow .... (C) Lolita
    You have to teach your own and bring up the same.

    While you teach, while you educate. and here are ready smile
    1. Alfer
      Alfer 29 August 2014 23: 48
      0
      But you’re not afraid that these ready ones will run away if you don’t like it. Or to their beloved Europe. They shouted there Ukraine and Europe. And we won’t learn our own ones either. And we’ll sit cheating. We’re cool.
  24. Sharikov
    Sharikov 29 August 2014 15: 51
    +1
    The deepest crisis is coming for anyone throughout Ukraine. But if in Ukraine there will be a deepest crisis, then in the bombed-out Southeast, there will be a doubly crisis, and in any case. That is, there will be poverty on the verge of starvation. Virtually no jobs, no infrastructure to create them. Plus, Kiev will spread rot in any region.
    The only solution (for those who are not ready to fight) is emigration to Russia. No matter how difficult it is, but there is a chance to at least provide itself with normal nutrition, and during 3-5 years it can even somehow arrange your life.
    Look at the guest workers from Central Asia. A year later, all of them will be replaced by guest workers from Ukraine. The one who so far has the opportunity to move as a refugee to Russia will win. Then this shop will be closed. This is a difficult decision, but there is simply no other way out :(
  25. bmv04636
    bmv04636 29 August 2014 15: 52
    0
    Yesterday the news passed
    Lugansk Engineering Plant was taken to Cheboksary.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 29 August 2014 15: 55
      +3
      Quote: bmv04636
      Yesterday the news passed
      Lugansk Engineering Plant was taken to Cheboksary.

      On what?
      In the trunk of a Zaporozhets under the shelling?
      1. Barakuda
        Barakuda 29 August 2014 16: 26
        +1
        On balloons. smile Not one hundred wagons are needed. Maybe all the documentation?
  26. Barakuda
    Barakuda 29 August 2014 15: 55
    +7
    So the Ministry of Industry and Trade needs to sort out the program specifically, what is the salary, where the people live, what are the benefits for obtaining citizenship, who pays the family's relocation, etc. And throw the information to the Antonovites, "ZaporizhzhyaSich" ..
    If it is intelligible, believe will be pulled.
    And to me from the FMS of Russia only letters of application come — your request has been processed automatically, come to Russia, say, get in line, register, live wherever you want and how you want, and maybe we will start trying to decide your will to live in Russia. And a pile of documents is needed with a translation into Russian certified by a notary. Bureaucrats!
    And what remains for me, to cross the stupid border, enroll in refugees - a healthy man and beg for later? And with all this, I was born in Russia like all my relatives. And I also need to prove that I know Russian! Lermontov and Pushkin they read from memory? Retell Leo Tolstoy? Boiling ...
    1. Alfer
      Alfer 29 August 2014 18: 19
      0
      I haven’t tried to Europe? Maybe you’ll be there as needed.
      1. Cristall
        Cristall 30 August 2014 00: 17
        0
        Quote: Alfer
        I haven’t tried it in Europe? Maybe you’ll be more useful there.

        by the way from Odessa is easier to Europe for permanent residence than in the Russian Federation ... I don’t know why. But in the same Polish representative office it is much simpler than in the Russian consulate having relatives and even a place of residence in the Russian Federation ...
        Maybe it’s necessary of course ...
  27. Juborg
    Juborg 29 August 2014 15: 56
    +4
    Although zaminusuyut comrades, well, I do not believe in the sincerity and conscientiousness of specialists from dill. They need to grow their own, with the provision of benefits, housing, good salaries, guarantees to their families, etc. It’s clear that it’s easier to get a ready-made specialist, but I have not seen more than one who would do the work in good faith. I am a doctor and I have seen these newcomers, ready-made temporary specialists with experience. Believe me, this is not the best option. And to spy on every such specialist, this is the same way out.
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 29 August 2014 16: 17
      +1
      I would minus, but the truth is in the "temporary workers". But what if a person has been driving to work in the same place for years? Does he have a reason to mess around?
      Somehow I was asked .. I put together a team for construction sites in Orel. So the third year there is no end to calls, men are not allowed to stay with their families for a week. Come and the apartment is already rented.
      1. Alfer
        Alfer 29 August 2014 20: 57
        +1
        Raise your Ukraine with your brigade. And do not bring down the price in Orel. Local hard workers.
    2. meronem
      meronem 29 August 2014 17: 50
      +5
      I am also a doctor. And also the administrator. Lately, I have been talking every day with Ukrainian doctors looking for work in the Russian north. 2-3 people call a day. Two young doctors come to us from Lugansk in early September. And I am glad for them, and I will hire them, because the industry is simply empty - there are not enough doctors - citizens of the Russian Federation. There is also a Libyan doctor, three Central Asian doctors working in the hospital from the "non-local". Now two Indian graduates are applying for a job.
      So it’s not up to fat, I would be living.
      As Filatov said: "If a regiment were crowding here, there would be a lot of bickering. Well, no, grab anyone, even if he was a Bryansk wolf."
      That's how we live.
    3. Alfer
      Alfer 29 August 2014 18: 12
      +1
      I completely agree with you. You need to train your specialists. And think about your people. And not about those who in 91 with enough squeals to feed the Russians ran from the Union. We ran in general. And now how much hatred towards us. Three hundred years they don’t need these ukrospets on eroplans.
  28. crambol
    crambol 29 August 2014 16: 02
    +1
    Quote: juborg
    I would like to believe that a visitor from the former Ukraine is sincere, but I can’t believe it!

    Have to believe it. The facts of the arrival of Ukrainian specialists are not advertised, but they are not isolated and very positive!
    _ And on the account of the fact that it is better to grow your frames, so far it is from the realm of fantasy. Compare the salaries of the factory worker and the marketer.
    1. Alfer
      Alfer 29 August 2014 18: 15
      0
      Comparison is not in favor of the plant. So it would be necessary so that they would eager to arrange their own at the plants. And not wait for some kind of ukrospetsov. This should be done by our state. Housing, salary, benefits are different ... And there will be no end to their own.
  29. leon17
    leon17 29 August 2014 16: 13
    +1
    Judging by the fact that the plant is moving, there will be more serious military operations in Ukraine and we all really need engineering.
    1. crambol
      crambol 29 August 2014 16: 30
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      Quote: leon17
      there will be more serious fighting in Ukraine


      Bash on bash. We introduce a bunch of paratroopers, and they give us their plants. I think it's fair!
  30. bubla5
    bubla5 29 August 2014 17: 23
    +1
    That damn policy [i] will come will [/ i] work, let’s, let’s have more of a negatively-minded population — refugees, migrant workers — there will be a faster cause of a social explosion, and it’s not enough to teach your own, otherwise higher education there’s no one to work without education. It’s just a long time ago that there is a need to revise the payroll policy, to tie the management board to the worker’s board, otherwise we have a difference
  31. screw cutter
    screw cutter 29 August 2014 17: 51
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    Quote: typhoon7
    Welcome all. I watched the last interview of Pavel Gubarev today. He said that Novorossia is at least eight regions of Eastern Ukraine, but he does not exclude that Kiev and other regions of Central Ukraine may enter there. He also said that events will move quickly. Based on this, it can be assumed that basically the entire industry will remain in Novorossiya, although of course everything is in a deplorable state there, in any case, the developments, samples, and the design bureaus themselves and the Antonov factories would not like to lose forever.

    Not the last, but the most extreme. And also the airplane on the avatar.
  32. Alfer
    Alfer 29 August 2014 18: 08
    -1
    But in fact, why do we need their specialists? We need to raise our cadres. To train. And not to rely on any Ukrainian people. Which, incidentally, are not very friendly with us. Also, look how these Ukropecians didn’t do any nasty things. They much to it. Okay, this is Svidomo zapadenschiny. Vuykam. They hated us for a while. But so much hatred in Kharkov and Zaporozhye, Dneprpetrovsk and darling Odessa. And this despite the fact that they live there actually the same Russian mostly. So for me, let those yeroplan specialists from Ukraine scratch into Europe. They certainly won’t let them go to the aircraft industry. But they’ll do it in dirty work. I’m for my country. I’m for my people. And not for those who hate us. UKRAINIANS! YOUR LADY FAITHFULLY SAID. NEVER WE WILL BE BROTHERS .. ME AND ALL RUSSIANS SUCH A KINNER AND GIFT ARE NOT NEEDED.
    1. Egevich
      Egevich 29 August 2014 20: 42
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      Quote: Alfer
      But in fact, why do we need their specialists? We need to raise our cadres. To train. And not to rely on any Ukrainian people. Which, incidentally, are not very friendly with us. Also, look how these Ukropecians didn’t do any nasty things. They much to it. Okay, this is Svidomo zapadenschiny. Vuykam. They hated us for a while. But so much hatred in Kharkov and Zaporozhye, Dneprpetrovsk and darling Odessa. And this despite the fact that they live there actually the same Russian mostly. So for me, let those yeroplan specialists from Ukraine scratch into Europe. They certainly won’t let them go to the aircraft industry. But they’ll do it in dirty work. I’m for my country. I’m for my people. And not for those who hate us. UKRAINIANS! YOUR LADY FAITHFULLY SAID. NEVER WE WILL BE BROTHERS .. ME AND ALL RUSSIANS SUCH A KINNER AND GIFT ARE NOT NEEDED.


      and you do not sign for everyone - "do not flatter yourself, come closer"
      1. Alfer
        Alfer 29 August 2014 20: 54
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        Did I really say something wrong? That they hate us in the bulk. We are invaders for them. It's a fact. Open your eyes. And live in the real world. Next. Do we really need to raise our staff? We will hope for someone for a long time ? Tomorrow, these ukro-specialists will run away if we hire them and again we are in the deep ass. There is no one to do planes. And all the rest. The Ukrainians scattered. I am for looking at all this really. And not from the side of fucking pan-Slavism.
      2. Alfer
        Alfer 29 August 2014 23: 44
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        About this, do not flatter yourself in your own thrust, write. And open your eyes. And throw all this Pan-Slavism out of your head. Go to them and tell us what kind of brothers we are. I think you’ll get smarter on the head. Lord, how can we erase this Pan-Slavism from us. How this infection has eaten in us.
        1. Cristall
          Cristall 30 August 2014 00: 22
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          Quote: Alfer
          Go to them and tell us what brothers we are.

          if we introduce in the Russian Federation an unlimited ifnoe war with censorship and filtration and the flow of material, say the Chinese or the Kazakhs in general, the result will be the same. The slogans of the Kazakhs on the count and more.
          Do not forget psychology - every day you are told 24 hours a day about the invasion of the enemy about treachery about fascism .. in all troubles .. In short, you are aware of Putin laughing
          This is not one day .. At first they deceived one city (KIEv) and got the keys to cover the whole country .. yes, and also the reasons (the same Crimea)
          1. Alfer
            Alfer 30 August 2014 10: 31
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            C'mon. Not yesterday there is this hatred towards us. Tot Taras Shevchenko, to whom the Russians dedicate their creative nights for some reason, hated us, the Russians. Even then. And he wasn’t the only one there. Where else is this coming from. And even with from earlier times. And why would the present Ukrainian hero Mazepa betray Russia. The only incidentally awarded the Order of Judah. ​​The whole essence of Ukraine lies in that. Whatever the bastard ,, snitch, traitor and other abomination that any people would be ashamed to remember from they are a national hero. We must also remember how they fled from the Soviet Union in 91. They rushed for the first time. They squealed joyfully. We are now independent and have enough to feed the Russians. Here’s such a people. Nobody fooled him. He’s been born like that .
  33. 3vs
    3vs 29 August 2014 19: 51
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    Do it right.
  34. delorian
    delorian 29 August 2014 21: 10
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    DESIRABLE WITH DRAWINGS an-225 laughing
  35. vodolaz
    vodolaz 29 August 2014 21: 28
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    That's right, from Tashkent have already been lured)
    1. Alfer
      Alfer 29 August 2014 23: 39
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      They lured away from Tashkent .. They themselves actually left and they were Russians. Real Russians. With normal brains. And not these, svidomye with abnormal brains. People from Tashkent did not scream that we needed knives and a junk. In Tashkent they didn’t ride like hell in hell and didn’t shout that we should be hanged. Adequate people were coming from Tashkent, and not this Ukrainian murmur is abnormal. So, these people from Ukrospets specialists have nothing to do with eroplans. Let them scratch in Europe. They’ll chat with us on social forums, and then rejoice. Open one censor and read. And I hope to communicate with these experts. And for a long time.
  36. Russian_German
    Russian_German 29 August 2014 22: 13
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    Quote: Wend
    Ay bravo, well done. Deprive Nazis of qualified personnel. Competently. And Russia’s profit.

    And why deprive them of something, they themselves have long deprived themselves. And the shots will be useful to us, otherwise they will be ravaged in Geyropu and will be lost there in vain.
    1. Alfer
      Alfer 29 August 2014 23: 42
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      And for me they’re all qualified there and just like that, all with a bullet in their head. Hatred of the Russians is bubbling. So let them put on embroidered shirts, well, you can still venuy on your head and go to Europe.
  37. Alfer
    Alfer 30 August 2014 00: 34
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    Yes, and what is actually idle talk? It’s not enough what nonsense our officials can blab. No one is going to go from there. They are gathered in Europe. And now everyone hates us. There are no Russian-minded people there. They all hate us there. And he’s old and young. And suddenly rush to work in Russia. Don’t tell.
  38. Cristall
    Cristall 30 August 2014 00: 35
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    I’m not a specialist at Antonov Design Bureau, not a Zory engineer, not a Kharkov master .. however, I have a brother, an engineer of nuclear plants (Polytech Odessa prepares personnel for the South Ukrainian NPP)
    I myself am a humanist (Mechnikov Geological Geographic)
    As for the import of specialists, there are pros and cons.
    Very frightening both the climate and the change of place. Secondly, depending on who is going to go at all. Valuable personnel for MS, but it’s Zaporozhye and everything is fine there; money is; orders are; everything is fine with them.
    Dawn? It is also stable there. It is so stable that the Nikolaev shipyards compared to the ZM is a devastation.
    Kharkiv? Yes, he is trying to cross young people with elders.
    Yuzhmash with Yuzhnoye Design Bureau is also trying a little with young people (by the way, this year the space industry of Ukraine showed growth by some kind of makar)
    Understand rocketers (except specialists on Satan) have their own projects. Do the Russians want to give Zenitists to engage? The engines there generally need the whole staff and Ivchenko Progress too - but Zaporozhye itself is a rather unique place - there are not a few of them. There you need to carry half a city ...
    I do not argue, some specialists can go. They could have gone before.
    But all the necessary specialists for the Russian Federation are located in cities outside the ATO zone (Nikolaev Zaporozhye Kiev Kharkov Dnipro)
    also hold on to them too.
    It is possible that Ukraine managed to save a lot of things because it was not in the Russian Federation when there was a wild wave of privatization. The same Antonov Design Bureau survived itself, Kharkov slowly climbed out without the Russian Federation (even in spite of the Russian Federation and in fierce competition with the Russian Federation)
    I just have a doubt about what - will not "spoil" the Russian Federation even those specialists who come?
    Actually in Ukraine the Spartan (exaggerating of course) conditions allowed the "artist to be hungry" provided that there were a lot of "artists". In Ukraine, there are a lot of people with higher education from the USSR.
  39. special
    special 30 August 2014 00: 48
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    How would saboteurs not bring on his neck ...