Military Review

Forgotten power

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Not one of the most modern and equipped armies in the world will budge and it’s not at all possible that they will not be able to defend themselves if they are deprived of provisions. How many fortresses, citadels and defensive lines have fallen, having exhausted the supply and lacking provisions.

Well, who is the main producer of food? Of course, he, the peasant! Sometimes rustic, with a cunning, himself on his mind. At least three times a day, we all owe our existence to this martyr and sufferer. How are we? Rather, they will erect a monument to the dictator or make a murderous murderer saint than remember with gratitude the one they cannot live without. Believe me, it will do without us, without our blessings of civilization and technical progress.

How many times in the old days happened; not protected by his army, driven away from the invaded territories by the invaders with the remaining family, the man went to the north. Then he returned with numerous offspring, once again settled the deserted land - Russia was revived.

What a sin to conceal, his work is not revered, and sometimes just despise some well-groomed and glossy in their brilliance townspeople. When we return home after work, we don’t care about her - even if she’s burned with a “blue flame”.

The peasant, on the other hand, gets up and lies with the thought of his little bastard. His working day - all the time, except eight hours of sleep. With an eternal headache about where to attach their products, which is oppressed by the state, he does his own, necessary thing.

At a time when few wanted to serve in the army, the village meekly gave up their healthy and hardy sons, losing the necessary strong hands in the economy. And still in the village there are still girls who look suspiciously at those who have stumbled ...
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  1. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 29 August 2014 09: 09
    +3
    The people will plow the bones of zapadentsev ... The harvest will be better ...
    1. cap54
      cap54 29 August 2014 09: 18
      +7
      Before smelling, it will be necessary to carry out not a small amount of work to neutralize the remnants of the war on the fields of the peasantry: mines, shells, unexploded remains of missiles, ammunition, remnants of bodies, nameless burial places, and so on and so forth !!! And only after that - the harvest will be better! Work - on the five-year plan, for sure!
      1. Mama_Cholli
        Mama_Cholli 29 August 2014 09: 24
        +4
        I do not argue ... You can attract by the way the perpetrators and directors of the "celebration" ...
        1. nfoma80
          nfoma80 29 August 2014 09: 38
          +14
          You are about one thing, but you are all about bones, then the bones are stocked up, but people cannot be changed. Who! Who will plow? Here, one figure sang songs about the rise of the industry, but he himself was not going to the factory. Do you know how much work it takes to rebuild and plow? Speaking is easy.
          1. Consul-t
            Consul-t 29 August 2014 10: 03
            +19
            I agree completely, the correct article and the right accents.
            Work at the factory. Development Specialist. We are trying to revive production.
            Question - with whom to work?
            There are no youth in factories. Everything is completely old. If young people appeared, they wanted to go to the main building, but nobody wanted to go to the machine.
            But ... lately, the trend has begun to change. Intelligent young guys began to appear at the machine tools. We hope for a speedy revival of industry.
            And agriculture is the foundation of any state.
            We must turn to the village face. And we are all back and forth.
            1. nfoma80
              nfoma80 29 August 2014 10: 17
              +2
              There you go! Nobody wants to work in factories, there are guys from villages and Uzbeks, you can’t force urban people with rare exceptions.
            2. nils
              nils 29 August 2014 11: 16
              +3
              Census data. Russian newspaper No. 5660 of 16.12.2011:

              Over the past 8 years, we have missed another 2,3 million of the country's population. In this case, the village was particularly affected: the loss of the rural population is three times more than the urban.
              Not only people die, but the villages themselves. Since 2002, the number of rural settlements has decreased by 8,5 thousands.
              Some of the villages are de facto alive. They just became part of neighboring cities and changed their status. But part of it was eliminated, because due to the departure of residents to the cities and "natural decline" they were empty. However, the census takers counted even more rural settlements, which de jure still exist, but no one really lives there - 19,4 thousand. Compared to the last census, this is 48 percent more.

              Here are such things. And this is not only a matter of the country's food security, it’s its future,
              1. zao74
                zao74 30 August 2014 00: 33
                0
                I was on a business trip to Karelia ... wonderful places but many abandoned VILLAGE, not just houses.
            3. 12423 student
              12423 student 29 August 2014 13: 13
              +1
              In 2002, one soldier told me, "In our village, whoever did not sit or served, he is not a man" Interesting comparison of a defender of the fatherland with a criminal?
            4. Nick
              Nick 30 August 2014 01: 17
              0
              Quote: Consul-t
              And agriculture is the foundation of any state.
              We must turn to the village face. And we are all back and forth.

              Absolutely true Anatoly.
          2. WKS
            WKS 29 August 2014 13: 20
            -9
            At one time, I.V. Stalin was told about the progress of the offensive operation: "Our troops are suffering heavy losses of personnel." To which Stalin replied: "The women are still giving birth," and, despite all the cynicism of rights, they gave birth.
            1. 23 region
              23 region 29 August 2014 14: 04
              +3
              Quote: wks
              To which Stalin replied: "Women are still giving birth,"

              This phrase in various interpretations was attributed to many - and Peter I, and Apraksin (under the same Peter I), and Catherine the Great, and Marshal G.K. Zhukov. But with all the variety of candidates for the authors of this "catch phrase", which has become a kind of "meme", attention should be paid to TWO FACTS: 1) None of the authors ranting on this topic (who put this phrase into the mouth of anyone - for example, "bloody Stalin's butcher, Marshal Zhukov, told Eisenhower: "There are many soldiers! Why should you feel sorry for them? Women still give birth! ..."), does not give any references to real historical documents, where this phrase is recorded, so to speak. 2) All "authors" of the "meme" those who utter this phrase are Russians, and not simple ones, but large military leaders (Apraksin, Menshikov, Zhukov ...) or state leaders (Peter I, Catherine the Great, ...). In light of what, this phrase and this plot become frankly Russophobic, with a clearly expressed frankly Hitler-fascist allusion to the inferiority of the Russian nation and its leaders, leaders. Whence, the continuation automatically follows ("the second series" of the Russophobic kin) - "Corpses filled up! That's why we won! In another way, Russians (Stalin, Zhukov, Bolsheviks, commies, ...) do not know how to fight !!! "Next comes the" third series "about" one rifle for three "," Penal battalions "," detachments "," cuttings from shovels "from Mikita Nakhalkov. It all ends with the" fourth series ":" But in the West (Americans, Germans, in Tsarist Russia ...) ... "
              1. WKS
                WKS 29 August 2014 22: 25
                +1
                You're not right. Imagine that you slip and begin to fall into a deep stone crevice. If you fall to the bottom, you will either die or be crippled so that you remain disabled. You also have a chance to grab the sharp stone edges on the fly and try to get to the top while injuring your palms and skinning your stomach and chest. You will naturally cling to sharp edges in an effort to keep the entire body alive. In this case, clumps of skin will remain on the stones. And if your hands could talk, they would tell you that we are losing a lot of cells in our body clinging to these stones, to which you, knowing that there is no other way, would answer your hands: "New cells will grow."
                Those people whom you listed and to whom they attribute the discussed expression possessed state thinking. State thinking considers the country as a single organism, and if this organism is in mortal danger, then they make the necessary sacrifices in order to save life for the whole organism. I think that all the statesmen you listed, as well as most people, shuddered at the sight of many corpses. But in contrast to this majority, they had to make a decision on which the fate of the power, the whole organism, depended. Therefore, each of them could pronounce this phrase, who aloud and who silently. And there is no Russophobia, here is common sense and responsibility for their decisions, and this phrase was conveyed to us by people who perceive it literally as manifestations of cold demonism and cruelty.
          3. vladimirZ
            vladimirZ 29 August 2014 13: 54
            -1
            Quote: nfoma80
            Who! Who will plow? Here, one figure about the rise of the industry sang a song ...


            Almost 100 years have passed. Compare the photo of the beginning of the 20s - a peasant plows the land, with a modern photo in the article.
            As the saying goes, "find the 10 fundamental differences."
            So, basically, now the land is being tilled by a peasant - a farmer, alone, on horseback, just as his ancestors plowed 100 or more years ago.
            Most of the former arable land is overgrown with weeds and forests, an unbearable strength of a single peasant. The liberal power was destroyed by large-capacity agricultural production in the form of collective farms and state farms. Units survived turning into kulak, that is, farms, in the best case LLC or ZAO.
            This condemned the capitalist liberal power of the Russian Federation to the people and the state of food dependence on imports, unemployment in the countryside, mass total drunkenness and the gradual extinction of the rural population of Russia.
            To my deep regret.
            1. nfoma80
              nfoma80 29 August 2014 16: 04
              0
              What are you talking about, dear last time I saw a horse plowing land in 1987, it’s my dad tried the grandfather plow for fun. No one, ON HORSES, plows. But about the fact that everything was destroyed and did not leave any prospects, yes, this is our everything! We will destroy to the ground, and then heroically build something and somehow. In general, now there is a fight over the land. People want and know how to work, there is not enough land, they are throwing open the abandoned. But this is in the Black Earth region, we have rich harvests (Oryol Oblast). In the north, of course, a wild horror.
              1. vladimirZ
                vladimirZ 29 August 2014 16: 54
                -3
                nfoma80, You can’t be more polite?
                I didn’t like to drink with you and didn’t switch to a familiar tone.
                If you have not seen empty villages and villages, overgrown fields, and villagers drunk, barely surviving in their villages, where most of them have no work, and people live in a garden plowed by a horse, haymaking on a horse for cows due to which they somehow reduce make ends meet, these are your problems.
                You can watch, but not see.
                You travel by train from Siberia to Moscow - everywhere equally abandoned fields and destroyed buildings of production facilities, as if the war had passed.
                The situation is better near large cities, and in the outback there is a complete collapse.
                And by car, you drive along the Angara River — abandoned cowsheds, machine-tractor parks, skeletons of tractors and cars near houses, chaos and desolation in most cases.
                1. nfoma80
                  nfoma80 30 August 2014 18: 12
                  0
                  I’m already too polite, and we speak to you only to those who are respected, specifically you didn’t live in the village and I can see it and I don’t respect you for anything, I’m from the village, but if they work there, and specifically they plow with a horse, HORSE then shoot me. The phrase: "Haymaking is done on a horse for cows at the expense of which" says that I have never been to the village at all.
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 29 August 2014 16: 16
              0
              Quote: vladimirZ
              So, basically, now a peasant - a farmer, plows the land now

              Excuse me, have you been in a village for a long time?
              I've never seen this before, I'm sorry, but it’s easier to buy a walk-behind tractor at a price with a horse will be about the same
          4. Naum
            Naum 29 August 2014 15: 43
            0
            I agree. The lack of prestige of peasant labor in Russia over the century has strengthened in the minds of the townspeople so much that derogatory definitions such as "collective farmer", "selpo", "dyarevnya" have taken root. Only now, some (not all of them are far away!) Began to understand the true meaning of the concept of "food security" and "national agrarian policy."
            In Germany, when a city dweller in a Mercedes meets a farmer on a tractor on the road, he makes way for him and also greets him. He knows that the Breadwinner is coming, from whose work EVERYTHING begins, the whole human life depends. And we make faces ...
            The Russian village fled. To return the villagers, one needs to invest in housing, infrastructure, and well-paid jobs. Return the debt to the village, which has accumulated over 70 years of "socialism" and the last 20 years of capitalism.
            1. nfoma80
              nfoma80 29 August 2014 16: 12
              0
              Eh Naum, what socialism did at the end of its history for the village, our state will never do. We built entire villages with full infrastructure, schools, roads, baths, gas, water supply, central heating. And how then it all collapsed before my eyes. First, we cut off street lighting, why everyone knows their village, then people like heating did everything in the 19th century in every house, the central sewage system is nothing to do with it, so after 15 years everyone has cesspools, roads, buses you don’t need where you are going! So, in order for the level of the USSR of 88-90 to be achieved in the countryside, it is necessary to build such communism that you really want to see it. It is unrealistic, however. Now, a third of the population of us, the Armenian-Russians are dying.
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 29 August 2014 17: 14
              0
              Quote: Naum
              The lack of prestige of peasant labor in Russia for a century has strengthened in the minds of the townspeople so much that derogatory definitions such as "collective farmer", "selpo", "dyarevnya"

              not so much labor as everyday life, although with today's technology, by and large, the opposite is true
          5. Nick
            Nick 30 August 2014 01: 16
            +1
            Quote: nfoma80
            Do you know how much work it takes to rebuild and plow? Speaking is easy.

            Eyes are afraid, but hands do ...
        2. Sergey777
          Sergey777 29 August 2014 11: 11
          0
          It is not possible, but necessary! wink
        3. chunga-changa
          chunga-changa 29 August 2014 21: 55
          0
          Who will attract them, they themselves know what nationality. This nationality can only be compensated, but not for anything, otherwise anti-Semitism will work. And this, according to the current scenario, is much worse than racism and homophobia combined, in general, a firing squad. You can’t even talk about it directly, even think.)
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 29 August 2014 10: 42
        +1
        Quote: cap54
        Before smelling - it will be necessary to carry out not a small work on disposal

        First of all, it will be necessary to winter, and this oh how it will not just be with the destroyed infrastructure
    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 29 August 2014 11: 39
      +5
      Our peasant does not interfere, but help a little with fair loans, and he will feed not only Russia, but also half the world.
    3. net abortion
      net abortion 29 August 2014 12: 18
      +6
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      zapadentsev ..



      Sorry , it was humanitarianly proposed to take pity not on ordinary soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but on punishers from special and territorial battalions, on whose hands civilian blood.


      In addition, it is not necessary to expect that relatives of sadists and murderers will appreciate the generous gesture - yesterday these relatives staged a Sabbath in Kiev, demanding that the authorities do not stop the war, but even more fire.

      Cute little girls with posters "Give a tank a tattoo!" and a raging woman with shouts and demands to throw new portions of cannon fodder to the rescue of their murderers - in general, these will definitely not appreciate humanism.

      They just don’t know what it is.
    4. tokens2
      tokens2 29 August 2014 23: 58
      0
      Generally...
      the auction must be held in the EU.
      The object of sale-sanctions on food.
      Whoever sells at a bargain on the one and lay the entire volume of "tribute" laughing in the form of a ban on the import of products.
      Let the "united" Europeans compete every year.
      Yes ... and in the distant tsarist period before conscription, not everyone was taken into the army lol rather ... those who were burdened with work in the field. Maybe we will live to see this time.
  2. master 84
    master 84 29 August 2014 09: 09
    +2
    A hungry soldier will not fight (EXAMPLE UKRAINE MASS DESERT)
    1. omsbon
      omsbon 29 August 2014 10: 19
      +1
      Quote: master 84
      A hungry soldier will not fight (EXAMPLE UKRAINE MASS DESERT)


      Watching what to fight for!
      1. Drednout
        Drednout 29 August 2014 11: 02
        +2
        Quote: omsbon
        Quote: master 84
        A hungry soldier will not fight (EXAMPLE UKRAINE MASS DESERT)


        Watching what to fight for!

        I agree. Half-starved defenders of Leningrad, the Brest Fortress, Kovpak partisans in the Carpathians, etc. Not only fought, but also won.
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 29 August 2014 10: 59
      +1
      Quote: master 84
      A hungry soldier will not fight (EXAMPLE UKRAINE MASS DESERT)

      I can give another example - Kerch catacombs
  3. SS68SS
    SS68SS 29 August 2014 09: 09
    +5
    ... Then he returned with numerous offspring, again populated the deserted lands - Russia was reborn ....


    The most important thing was to return to where. So that immigrants from the west or from the east do not inhabit these places .... (in the east there are generally one and a half billion) ....
    1. RusDV
      RusDV 29 August 2014 09: 26
      +5
      Some people in Ukraine do not care for the crop and for those who do not have enough ....
  4. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 29 August 2014 09: 11
    +19
    "His working day is all the time except for eight hours of sleep."

    The author took too many hours to sleep, especially in the summer.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 29 August 2014 10: 43
      0
      with established production, you can
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 29 August 2014 10: 52
        0
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        with established production, you can

        During plowing and harvesting, people practically sleep in tractors.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 29 August 2014 11: 01
          0
          Quote: Vladimirets
          During plowing and harvesting, people practically sleep in tractors.

          I have no plowing, the main thing is to prepare feed
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 29 August 2014 11: 30
            0
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            the main thing to prepare feed

            Well, mowing? In general, the song, as a child, I didn’t love summer because of this. smile
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 29 August 2014 17: 24
              0
              Well, what about mowing, before the dew comes down, you don’t mow all one, for a day our 7 hectares mow without any problems, it’s nervous only you have to guess how the weather is and in time it’s normal
    2. lelikas
      lelikas 29 August 2014 11: 40
      0
      Quote: Vladimirets
      The author took too many hours to sleep, especially in the summer.

      But modestly kept silent about the winter!
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 30 August 2014 08: 26
        -1
        and what in the winter?
    3. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 29 August 2014 12: 26
      0
      Quote: Vladimirets
      "His working day is all the time except for eight hours of sleep."

      The author took too many hours to sleep, especially in the summer.
      - no, well, you really went too far! The author also exaggerated a little! Swam - we know! hi
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 29 August 2014 13: 11
        0
        Quote: Dazdranagon
        Swam - we know!

        We also know.
        Quote: Dazdranagon
        no, well, you really went too far!

        Mowing in the evening in the summer until dark, in the morning with dawn, and so a couple of months. Well, of course, all by hand, in Lithuanians.
  5. djtyysq
    djtyysq 29 August 2014 09: 15
    +11
    Author +++++++! Short. but 100% to the point!
  6. Tima
    Tima 29 August 2014 09: 17
    +1
    Judging by the photo, this is Europe!
  7. GRIGORY
    GRIGORY 29 August 2014 09: 18
    +6
    It is necessary to lower the price of fuel, because due to such prices for diesel fuel the price of local carrots and cabbage is already at the price of overseas bananas, etc.
    1. saag
      saag 29 August 2014 09: 34
      0
      Quote: GRIGORY
      Need to lower fuel prices

      They have a coal shaft there, to build a coal hydrogenation plant and will have its own synthetic fuel
      1. nfoma80
        nfoma80 29 August 2014 09: 40
        +2
        Which will be twice as expensive as simple diesel fuel. And who will build this plant?
      2. aleks 62
        aleks 62 29 August 2014 10: 42
        0
        ..... It is very expensive at cost .... The Germans in the Second World War had several factories and that was due to the fact that oil supplies were blocked ...
    2. aleks_29296
      aleks_29296 29 August 2014 10: 18
      +5
      It is necessary to lower the price of fuel, because due to such prices for diesel fuel the price of local carrots and cabbage is already at the price of overseas bananas, etc.

      In addition to fuel prices, the system of dealers needs to be destroyed. In Soviet times, this was called speculation, and now business. It is because of such businessmen-resellers that prices are rising.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 29 August 2014 10: 49
        +2
        Quote: aleks_29296
        In addition to fuel prices, the system of dealers needs to be destroyed

        first of all, it is necessary to create normal sales, there is no sales - there is no development of production and interest in this matter.
        with today's technologies, life in rural areas can be equipped just better than urban, with our premises and despite the fact that occupancy in modern industries is more and more automated, which means that the need for labor resources decreases, including the development of small and medium-sized ones is the solution to very many problems both social and economic
        1. Altona
          Altona 29 August 2014 11: 02
          +1
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          with today's technologies, life in rural areas can be equipped just better than urban, with our premises and despite the fact that occupancy in modern industries is more and more automated, which means that the need for labor resources decreases, including the development of small and medium-sized ones is the solution to very many problems both social and economic

          ----------------
          I also wanted to write about it ... Now agricultural work is not the same as before ... An extensive line of tractors, both ours and imported, a lot of mounted equipment so that the tractor does not stand idle, now it can not only plow, but also mow hay , harvest, work as a snow blower and loader ... There is gas in the village, even roads are built in some places ... It’s quite possible to deal with the village ... And this will have an effect along the chain - machine builder, gasman, road and housing builder, food truck and so on ... And our land is idle ... Yes, we need sales so that retail chains push imports ... For peasants, we need to create cooperation so that farmers' products are collected in large lots ... In general, there are now opportunities to raise village...
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 29 August 2014 11: 14
            +1
            Quote: Altona
            There is gas in the village

            not everywhere
            Quote: Altona
            For the peasants it is necessary to create cooperation so that farmers' products are collected in large batches

            what did it all have to do with consumer surgery
            1. Altona
              Altona 29 August 2014 11: 26
              0
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              not everywhere

              -------------------
              I know that it’s not everywhere ... But it’s 70-80 percent ... I can even tell you where, for example, in the Nizhny Novgorod region it is not everywhere, although in Chuvashia there are 100% everywhere ... Interesting you, you want me to outline the whole problem with a short post ... I can even tell you that cheap loans are needed, we still sponsor the West with cheap money ... Water and electricity tariffs should be reduced, agricultural aviation should be revived, now there’s a lot of mini-aviation there are even drones. Seed funds and nurseries should be revived, land reclamation to prevent flooding, or vice versa ...
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 29 August 2014 17: 25
                0
                Quote: Altona
                But 70-80 percent that is

                yes god be with you
                our area has just begun to gasify, in my opinion Siberia is not gasified
  8. Hyperboreec
    Hyperboreec 29 August 2014 09: 26
    +3
    In the villages, the strength of Russia.
    1. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 29 August 2014 12: 32
      +3
      Quote: Giperboreec
      In the villages, the strength of Russia.
  9. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 29 August 2014 09: 28
    +1
    Yes, busting with fuel prices for their bent and chased for cheap products - which doesn’t give you anything good for health but incomprehensible illnesses, and before 40 years ago they ate real products and were not sick like now so the government urgently needs to lower the price for agriculture and produce everything useful but its
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 29 August 2014 10: 50
      0
      Quote: VICTOR-61
      Yes bust with fuel

      not only fuel, lack of gas, shitty electricity
  10. Signature
    Signature 29 August 2014 09: 35
    +1
    No need to rob honestly working - in the field, at the machine and anywhere else.
    But, I’m afraid that nobody will succeed in harmonizing the situation with popularization-moral measures of influence.
  11. nfoma80
    nfoma80 29 August 2014 09: 43
    +1
    Nobody needs a natural one, a natural one has a too fresh taste, and I’m not ready to give my own for that, and people want to buy a natural one at the price of plastic, but no one considers my production costs as well.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 29 August 2014 10: 53
      +2
      Quote: nfoma80
      natural tastes too sweet

      it's like not understood
      Quote: nfoma80
      and people want to buy natural at the price of plastic, but no one considers my labor and production costs.

      here on a local forum he clashed with one "specialist", he said that we are grabbers and specially raise prices, gave him all the calculations - feed, utilities, etc.
      so it’s for me - I don’t give a damn how much your costs are dragging I want at the price I like
      and the fact that replacing a ball is worth a quarter of a lamb despite the fact that in the first case, work for half an hour and in the second for a year
  12. Signaller
    Signaller 29 August 2014 09: 45
    +1
    That's for sure
    At a time when few wanted to serve in the army, the village meekly gave up their healthy and hardy sons, losing the necessary strong hands in the economy. And still in the village there are still girls who look suspiciously at those who have stumbled ...
    It is necessary to serve in the Army. The defense of one's Fatherland is the Holy Duty and Responsibility of any citizen of his country, especially RUSSIA. Therefore, I always look at those who have slanted with a share of sarcasm, and observing them you understand, the BLOOP in front of you. If something serious happens, dirt, cold, death will fly overhead, it will stupor and start a panic. Relying on them in difficult times is not impossible. Only the time of testing cures them, and sometimes there is no time.
  13. Million
    Million 29 August 2014 09: 45
    +1
    Our government does not need peasants, retailers feed the country
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 29 August 2014 10: 54
      0
      Quote: Million
      country retailers feed

      God forbid, one huge Leningrad will be
    2. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 29 August 2014 12: 28
      0
      Quote: Million
      retailers feed the country
      - from these hucksters benefit zero! There is no contribution to GDP, only prices are too high ...
  14. leha1128
    leha1128 29 August 2014 09: 47
    0
    Agriculture will rise, the country will rise
  15. tundra
    tundra 29 August 2014 09: 58
    0
    Article plus! If only the government did not strangle the peasants, the local oligarchs buy the land and enslave the peasants, they have to work not for themselves but for their uncle. And not any help from the government. The fact that they are now talking about food safety is from the evil one, another company. Although you cut me, well, the official cannot do anything sensible from the heart, without taking into account his selfish interests (well, maybe with rare exceptions).
  16. Bear in the north
    Bear in the north 29 August 2014 09: 59
    +2
    Article + is only about 8 hours of sleep, apparently he spent little time in the village. But + definitely.
  17. victorrat
    victorrat 29 August 2014 10: 03
    0
    Lord! Are you about Russia or the Ruin? Hohland is full of seams. The fields are burned, not sown, there is no fuel for tractors, there’s nothing to buy food for.
    After all, it was not in vain that they proposed creating a fund at the UN to help these loafers and Nazis. And they suggest including Russia there))))
    But the US plan was a success. The country was ruined, and now help Russia.
    And who will restore? Germany, Poland, Moldova? Haha
    One joy is the sanctions, which have already helped the development of our agricultural sector.
    1. Cristall
      Cristall 29 August 2014 12: 01
      +1
      Quote: victorrat
      Hohland is full of seams. The fields are burned, not sown, there is no fuel for tractors, there’s nothing to buy food for.

      By August 26, nearly 35,2 million tons of grain was threshed in Ukraine - Minagroprod
      As of August 26, in Ukraine with an area of ​​9,624 million ha, which is 99% of the plan (excluding Crimea), 35,172 million tons of early grain and leguminous crops were harvested with an average yield of 36,5 c / ha. This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Agrarian Policy and Food of Ukraine.
      According to the agency, winter wheat was harvested from an area of ​​6,033 million ha (99%). With a yield of 40,4 c / ha, the gross grain harvest amounted to 24,38 million tons.
      In addition, buckwheat with an average yield of 14,7 kg / ha was harvested from an area of ​​62 thousand ha (45%), 91 thousand tons were threshed.
      Millet was harvested on an area of ​​62 thousand ha (60%). With an average yield of 18,2 c / ha, 112 thousand tons of grain were threshed.
      388 thousand tons of sunflower were threshed with an average yield of 11,4 kg / ha from an area of ​​339 thousand ha (7%).
      Soybeans were harvested from an area of ​​39 thousand ha (2%), 68 thousand tons of oilseeds were threshed with a yield of 17,5 kg / ha.
      223 thousand ha are sown with winter rapeseed, which is 26% of the planned area.

      yes I agree full seams .... could feed 500 million and so only 100 ..
      1. Gomel
        Gomel 29 August 2014 14: 53
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        all went to the ATO
        under the best conditions in Ukraine, the crop per person is worse than in Belarus, located in the risky farming zone.
        sadly

        ps I have other data on the average grain yield, but ... since the official Kiev wrote that only 36,5 .... this is absolutely a seam. A very serious confirmation that there is not enough fuel - they did not start cleaning on time and the grain began to disappear ...
  18. Alfizik
    Alfizik 29 August 2014 10: 06
    +1
    Yes, the whole truth of our world is in the hinterland, with all the peasant hardships and soulfulness.
    The peasant feeds everyone, and it’s very disappointing when you realize that criminals of all stripes, idlers of majors, and, of course, the Ukrainian junta, carefully destroying the work of his breadwinner, eat from his hands. And often the breadwinner himself.
  19. navara399
    navara399 29 August 2014 10: 46
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    There are simply no options; support for our agricultural sector is always necessary and relevant. As for the agricultural sector of Novorossia, then gritting your teeth will have to help, otherwise we will get a neighboring state that is hungry and accustomed to fighting.
  20. bober2708
    bober2708 29 August 2014 10: 59
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    Good article!!!
    I was always drawn to the village - to work physically. And at the same time, "relax" - with a walk-behind tractor or a shovel in hand. They say the happiest people are those who come back from work physically tired and sweaty more than once throughout the day. They do not have the strength to think about their "I" and about transcendental dreams.
  21. netwalker
    netwalker 29 August 2014 11: 17
    +2
    Yes .., the cult of success finally brought out of fashion normal strong guy wars and normal curvaceous and figured girls, mothers in childbirth.
    Meanwhile, this is what leads us to collapse, and only now, in view of the political situation, we are beginning to understand this.
    Somehow it so happened that for a beautiful life we ​​go to cities to work, leaving the land, and we buy everything we need, and as a rule from foreigners. A commonplace example is Polish apples, Scandinavian dairy products. Although anyone, even a summer resident, has a dear apple tree on the site, and how many regions are engaged in breeding cows cannot be counted. And now, at last, when the flow of Western "zhrachki" has dried up, we remembered this.
    In addition, if we recall the Theory of State and Law, from the first year of the institute, then everyone is familiar with the "Basis" scheme, and above it the "Superstructure", where the Basis is the economy (production, including agriculture, and the Superstructure is politics and other managers - for some reason in our country they have changed places. After all, traditionally the Basis, although it was under the Superstructure, was always greater than it and was its support, but not in our time. We have a hypertrophied administrative apparatus and minimal production of our own, and where not Look. Starting from state structures and ending with the last LLC-shka. For some reason, highly effective managers are produced in our Institutes and they are respected more than a simple worker who, in fact, does all this, and the manager only drives the air and that's it ...
    But now, when it became necessary to produce everything ourselves - they remembered about it.
    The West thinks that by depriving us of this, we will not be able to restore the past, but we are Russian ..! We have always won and will cope now. We recall that Russia has always been primarily an agricultural country, a breadwinner, one of the largest grain exporters in the world. Once again, we will cope ... Glory to Russia ..! smile
  22. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 29 August 2014 11: 47
    +1
    Yes, this force is not forgotten, but destroyed, specially destroyed by our beloved liberal shit-democrats to please the West, the slogan is that we do not need agriculture, foreign countries will help us, for the sake of this, state farms and collective farms have been destroyed, complexes for raising poultry and pigs have been destroyed, large cattle, but you don’t have to list it, you need to make a white paper. As a result, the fields are not cultivated, they are overgrown with weeds and forests. The villages are dying out, and these crap are still in power, that's such an oil painting.
  23. EvilLion
    EvilLion 29 August 2014 11: 58
    -4
    Right now I will cry from emotion and pity for the peasant. A typical peasant psychology is formulated very simply: "They sleep in the city until twelve o'clock, dooo!" So I don't have much respect for the Pisants, without a tractor produced in the city, how much will your Khrystyanin work? Even without a bowl made by an ancient potter, it will be problematic to eat food produced by a peasant. I’m already silent about the fact that the worker at the factory is much less free than any pizant. Well, peasant greed and the hysterical eternal search for how his unfortunate state is robbing him is a separate story.

    By the way, you, everyone who rushed together in the wake of the author to lament, are not at all embarrassed to call the kooky ukrov Selyuk, and indeed it is. Dumb illiterate b_y_d_l_o, which turned the center of Kiev into one large garden. Because the village does not develop, it is developed, and without the city the peasants would still be engaged in hoe farming.
    1. Kingfisher
      Kingfisher 29 August 2014 12: 59
      +2
      Quote: EvilLion
      Right now I will cry from emotion and pity for the peasant. A typical peasant psychology is formulated very simply: "They sleep in the city until twelve o'clock, dooo!" So I don't have much respect for the Pisants, without a tractor produced in the city, how much will your Khrystyanin work? Even without a bowl made by an ancient potter, it will be problematic to eat food produced by a peasant. I’m already silent about the fact that the worker at the factory is much less free than any pizant. Well, peasant greed and the hysterical eternal search for how his unfortunate state is robbing him is a separate story.

      By the way, you, everyone who rushed together in the wake of the author to lament, are not at all embarrassed to call the kooky ukrov Selyuk, and indeed it is. Dumb illiterate b_y_d_l_o, which turned the center of Kiev into one large garden. Because the village does not develop, it is developed, and without the city the peasants would still be engaged in hoe farming.

      You shouldn’t be so. It’s not worth crying from tenderness, but you don’t need to jerk too. A peasant, even with a hoe, will feed himself and his family. Shoe and dress. But imagine if in any metropolis electricity disappears for about two weeks at least ... Will we eat Lexus? To drink air and throw poop out the window? Remember Leningrad.
    2. Cenij150814
      Cenij150814 29 August 2014 20: 27
      0
      Quote: EvilLion
      Right now I will cry from emotion and pity for the peasant. A typical peasant psychology is formulated very simply: "They sleep in the city until twelve o'clock, dooo!" So I don't have much respect for the Pisants, without a tractor produced in the city, how much will your Khrystyanin work? Even without a bowl made by an ancient potter, it will be problematic to eat food produced by a peasant. I’m already silent about the fact that the worker at the factory is much less free than any pizant. Well, peasant greed and the hysterical eternal search for how his unfortunate state is robbing him is a separate story.

      By the way, you, everyone who rushed together in the wake of the author to lament, are not at all embarrassed to call the kooky ukrov Selyuk, and indeed it is. Dumb illiterate b_y_d_l_o, which turned the center of Kiev into one large garden. Because the village does not develop, it is developed, and without the city the peasants would still be engaged in hoe farming.

      About how he spoke, tractor, etc ..., Czech then your brother fled to the village in the famine of the first half of the twentieth century. And on the account (how the state takes away his unfortunate state, this is a separate song), and how to name the fact that the products produced in the village went to buy cities request
  24. Dniester
    Dniester 29 August 2014 12: 00
    +2
    Russian agriculture needs a loan with a negative% rate. Those. Borrowed 1 and a year later returned 000. Everything is like in China - the rate (-000%).
    1. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 29 August 2014 12: 30
      +1
      Quote: Dniester
      Russian agriculture needs a loan with a negative%
      - Yes, at least with + 5% per year, everything will already be easier!
  25. Cristall
    Cristall 29 August 2014 12: 04
    -1
    I still have a question - what kind of leshigo are you spreading information that in Ukraine there are "seams in the agro-industrial complex"?
    There is a lot of information already about the harvest. Is it too lazy to check - or Kisilev media?
    The impression that Vinnitsa and Poltava burned all the fields ...
    http://www.apk-inform.com/ru/harvest2012/1034758#.VAAzKaPPYnQ
    A good site for the agricultural sector of Ukraine. We can draw conclusions.
    1. Signature
      Signature 29 August 2014 13: 27
      0
      Just everyone wants to right now - without waiting for two effective mentors (Cold and Hunger) - Ukraine and all its population were sobering safely (they became good, kind and broadly looking at the world). It is a pity that between the desired and the real, something is always threateningly hanging around ... (A child never dies in a person.)
    2. Kingfisher
      Kingfisher 29 August 2014 13: 40
      0
      Quote: Cristall
      I still have a question - what kind of leshigo are you spreading information that in Ukraine there are "seams in the agro-industrial complex"?
      There is a lot of information already about the harvest. Is it too lazy to check - or Kisilev media?
      The impression that Vinnitsa and Poltava burned all the fields ...
      http://www.apk-inform.com/ru/harvest2012/1034758#.VAAzKaPPYnQ
      A good site for the agricultural sector of Ukraine. We can draw conclusions.

      Naturally, not all the people of Ukraine are schizophrenics from the "sectors". Only immature brains are not spared by propaganda.
    3. Gomel
      Gomel 29 August 2014 15: 02
      +1
      Oh well
      with a crop in 2013 year - 63,1 million tons
      2014 harvest of the year - 35,2 (at the end of the harvest, it will rise no higher than 36)
      and that a drop in 50% is normal ??? In your?
      and what does it mean .. the average yield for the groups of countries does not change much (under normal conditions), therefore the yield of the crop in Urkain should have been no less than 38-40 kg / ha. (like the neighbors - Belarus Poland Russia.
      and here???
      36,5 kg / ha is not a tragedy of course, in Belarus there were even fewer (see figure). but still a clear sign that the posture began, without fuel and with a lack of people and equipment
  26. special
    special 29 August 2014 12: 28
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    Quote: omsbon
    Quote: master 84
    A hungry soldier will not fight (EXAMPLE UKRAINE MASS DESERT)


    Watching what to fight for!

    And depending on what soldier! soldier
  27. RONIN-HS
    RONIN-HS 29 August 2014 14: 06
    0
    Quote: wks
    To which Stalin replied: ...

    DO NOT LIE...! am
    Stalin did not say that. These are the words of Nicholas II, his commentary on the cholera epidemic at the end of the 19 century in the Volga ... It seems so. what
  28. Luda67
    Luda67 29 August 2014 16: 12
    0
    Thanks to the author of eqeryi56 for the article! How right you are that: "Not one of the most modern and equipped army in the world will budge and not even to advance - it will not be able to defend itself if it is deprived of provisions. provisions. "
    I live in the Smolensk region and it is here, and for this reason one of the greatest armies in the history of mankind perished, I mean the army of Napoleon. The wise Kutuzov deployed it near Maloyaroslavets, cutting off a retreat along the untouched lands of the Kaluga province (depriving horses of fodder, and provisions soldier) and driving them through the devastated (and angry) Smolensk region.
    Smolensk peasants spontaneously gathered in partisan detachments that operated in Krasnensky, Porech counties, and then in Belsky, Sychevsky, Roslavlsky, Gzhatsky and Vyazemsky districts. The result is known.
    In World War II, peasants again became the main force of partisan detachments.