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"You can not ignore the will of the insurgent people of New Russia"

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"You can not ignore the will of the insurgent people of New Russia"


Vladimir Putin there is no reason to compromise with Poroshenko

Negotiations took place in Minsk yesterday between Vladimir Putin, Petro Poroshenko, representatives of the European Union and the leaders of the countries of the Customs Union (Kazakhstan and Belarus).

The highlight of the summit was the meeting of the presidents of Russia and Ukraine, which lasted more than two hours.

Member of the State Duma Committee on Defense Vyacheslav Tetekin specifically for KM.RU commented on the results of the negotiations.

It is clear that the winning party is New Russia

- In the course of various negotiations and attempts at political settlement, the most important factor of the events taking place is ignored. This factor is the will of the insurgent people of New Russia. I have already said that diplomats and politicians, as a rule, draw up the results that are already on the battlefield. In the meantime, these results did not show up, diplomats can beat around the bush as long as they wish, but the conversation will be about nothing. So, the situation in Novorossia has reached such a stage that it will not be possible to simply say “stopped and let's settle the issue”.

It is clear that the winning party is New Russia. Previously, they agreed to federalization, but now they say that after all that has happened, with the current balance of power, they demand complete independence. In other words, the situation is largely determined not only and not so much by Moscow or Washington. Accordingly, Vladimir Putin has no reason to compromise.

This is on the one hand, but on the other hand, Poroshenko also cannot agree to an agreement, because it depends on its far-right nationalists. As soon as he tries to talk about some kind of compromise settlement, he will immediately be swept away. In short, the ground for diplomatic negotiations has not yet matured.

Poroshenko is a toy in the hands of more powerful political forces, including international

Does the summit legitimize Poroshenko's status? I must say that Poroshenko’s legitimacy is flawed, because the population of Donetsk and Luhansk people's republics did not participate in the elections. Let me remind you that almost 7 million people live there. But still we cannot call Poroshenko an impostor at all. He has a certain mandate to conduct negotiations from Ukraine.

However, there is formal legitimacy, but there is a real ability to govern the state. In this sense there are serious doubts regarding Poroshenko. The most industrialized territory frankly does not obey him, and is in a state of rebellion. A number of oligarchs headed by Kolomoisky also almost openly refuse to obey him.

Western Ukraine behaves as she wants. The right-wing forces say that if Poroshenko will not do what they indicate to him, then he will be overthrown. That is, Poroshenko is in many ways a toy in the hands of more powerful political forces, including international ones.

If Novorossia wins, the uprising will almost inevitably spread to other Russian-speaking areas. It would be absurd to accuse Russia of allegedly engaging in incitement. For New Russia, it would be natural to remove the threat from Kolomoisky, who usurped power in the Dnipropetrovsk region. And besides, I think, in this area and in Kharkiv an internal insurgent movement will begin. The composition of the population there is about the same as in Donetsk and Lugansk, and people there experience the same feelings.
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  1. portoc65
    portoc65 29 August 2014 18: 49
    +12
    Putin made Porashenko. And not only him .. Only this will be seen later. Ukrainian Minister Sedna said that Ukraine has achieved a lot. The first is the victory of terrorists and the second became independent of energy supplies from Russia.))) I was smiled
    1. MSA
      MSA 29 August 2014 18: 54
      +9
      It is necessary that these ghouls are responsible for their actions !!!
      1. Cadet787
        Cadet787 29 August 2014 23: 30
        0
        29.08.2014 - 23: 05
        A message from the militia: there may still be wrecked aircraft | Russian spring
        Message from the militia Prokhorov:

        “To the south of Gorlovka, the National Guard was kicked out of the village of Krasny Partizan. Respect for the Gorlovka guys.
        From the media: “Today, the self-defense forces managed to shoot down four Su-25 attack aircraft of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. One of them was shot down on the territory of the LPR, and three more in the DPR. According to the DPR Prime Minister Oleksandr Zakharchenko, all the aircraft were shot down at night from MANPADS. At the same time, two attack aircraft managed to escape from the positions of the militia and fell, shot down, not far from Mariupol, on the territory that the DPR army does not control. "
        At lunch, dill by two attack aircraft and one Su-27 (used as a scout) tried to attack the militia in Starobeshevo. They also worked for them, so perhaps ukrov also has damaged aircraft.
        1. Cadet787
          Cadet787 29 August 2014 23: 34
          0
          VSN closed the fourth "boiler" near Volnovakha
          29.08.2014 - 21: 13

          The Armed Forces of Novorossiya (VSN) have already closed the fourth "boiler". This time near Volnovakha. The remnants of three punitive battalions are reportedly surrounded.
    2. tanit
      tanit 29 August 2014 18: 54
      +3
      Why would Putin have to make someone out of shit, Putin already had Yanukovych, made of the same material? Or do you use the term "to do" in the sense of "dilute"? smile
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 29 August 2014 19: 44
        +6
        The GDP was pressed against the wall, if the Donbass "gives up", he is a political corpse in the Russian Federation. After all, beyond the east will come the turn of Transnistria or the Rusyns in the west. And this is another slap in the face for Russia. And what will be the rating of him and his party? Russian nationalists will already raise their heads, who (as in Ukraine) will go to the Duma. A similar scenario will begin there. Is it a GDP or not? I think everyone in the Kremlin has figured it out long ago. Therefore, Novorossiya "will not surrender."
        Minsk. All clear. GDP has outlined all the scenarios for him, where Poroshenko will simply be merged by his Western partners (Saakashvili, Mursi, Talabani, etc.). Poroshenko came home and ... continues the US scenario. "The Russian Federation has introduced troops, the UN Security Council, new sanctions of our Western partners." I believe VVP explained to him that there would be no input and why. So why did Poroshenko go on talking again? In my opinion, it dawned on him that he needed to pack his bags rather than the Novorossiys. Well, gas. Here it is very interesting and there are many development options. "... We paid for the transit, and they returned the money ..." - says that Moscow can turn off the tap at any time - the EU has no guarantees, especially since this is included in the plan of Uzbekistan's sanctions against the Russian Federation. Those. The EU has reasons to drain Poroshenko, and they understand that the Russian Federation is more important to them than Kiev.
        It is possible for the GDP, as one of the options, to demand from the EU full control over the Ukrainian gas transportation system and the introduction of peacekeepers (Bordyuzha's statements today). Until recently, I considered it a stalemate (bringing in peacekeepers), but now for some reason I tend to think differently. If the conflict is "frozen", then everyone will start squabbling with everyone in Ukraine against the backdrop of falling welfare of the population. At the same time, against the backdrop of the rise of Crimea and the restoration of Donbass (even at the expense of the EAEU). Against this background, all other regions of Ukraine (especially the Russian-speaking ones), having understood what happened (they are being ruined and pulled out of the latter), will not sit - Maidan-3 or something harder. hi
        1. tanit
          tanit 30 August 2014 05: 09
          0
          And that, the introduction of peacekeepers is quite normal. The Kazakhstani brigade or regiment would have come to the point. It is clearly no worse than the peacekeepers from Fiji.
          The guys are trained and equipped.
      2. WKS
        WKS 29 August 2014 22: 59
        0
        This is on the one hand, but on the other hand, Poroshenko also cannot agree to an agreement, because it depends on its far-right nationalists. As soon as he tries to talk about some kind of compromise settlement, he will immediately be swept away. In short, the ground for diplomatic negotiations has not yet matured.

        The fact that Poroshenko is a temporary figure and intended solely as a whipping boy (a big ass can’t be missed) is incomprehensible only to himself. All those around, more or less possessing brains, understand this, perhaps he himself began to speculate about this recently. Not only the president of Ukraine is not negotiable; the whole of Ukraine is not negotiable. The country is led by a street crowd. Only brute physical force can overthrow this power of the crowd. And such a force in Ukraine is possible only in the form of a dictatorship. And the need for the people in this dictatorship takes place, but no one is drawn to the role of the dictator from the current political talkers. This figure can arise only in the late autumn, and if it does not, the state of Ukraine will order a long life, and in Poroshenko they will spit and blame for all mortal sins for many more years in any situation. To lead the state is not to sell sweets, and not to pose in front of cameras in courageous poses.
    3. Giant thought
      Giant thought 29 August 2014 19: 21
      +3
      The people of the whole of New Russia will achieve the fall of the fascist regime, this is for sure, and will create such a state as it sees fit, and no one will have the right to interfere with it in this, and Russia will simply help him.
    4. Cadet787
      Cadet787 29 August 2014 20: 02
      +2
      The regime, which builds its policy on lies, is doomed to go into obscurity, soon we will witness these events in the territory that will remain from Ukraine.
    5. term
      term 29 August 2014 20: 09
      0
      You know how in chess, I didn’t have time to think over the move of the great grandmaster (he thinks experienced, clever, they said !?) a few steps ahead ... he runs .. (give acceleration ...?). Let not rush ....
    6. attentive reader
      attentive reader 29 August 2014 20: 30
      +1
      it makes no sense to smile, the Ukrainian authorities continue to steal transit gas going to Europe, Gazprom is silent, thereby informally supporting the illegitimate power of Ukraine.
    7. Cadet787
      Cadet787 29 August 2014 21: 07
      +2
      Captive officer: out of 150 military, only 17 left the encirclement
      29.08.2014 - 20: 13

      On the morning of August 29, the militia announced that they managed to capture the Ukrainian military, who were trying to break out of the encirclement. A Life News correspondent managed to speak with one of the prisoners.
      “For three or four days we were in Kuteinikovo, surrounded. Then we left it with a fight, as there was an order to leave the further, the better. There were 150 of us in total, I know only 17 survivors,” said Lieutenant Colonel Andrei Svetlinsky. At the same time, the Ukrainian military did not know that in Starobeshevo, where they were trying to break through, there was no longer a garrison of their colleagues.
      Svetlinsky does not complain about the conditions of captivity, he says that the militias treat him "normally", "like an officer." He has no thoughts on further plans. “Now the Ukrainian military wants to go home,” the prisoner summed up.
    8. Cadet787
      Cadet787 29 August 2014 21: 14
      +7
      On the death of the commander of the militia Evgeny Ponomarev ("Dingo")
      29.08.2014 - 19: 04

      "Dingo was with us from the very beginning of the capture of Kramatorsk.

      I remember how I directed the picket and filmed the arrival of the “wolves” in the city department, and after that I remained on duty there for the night with them. I remember them as smart, brave and rustic warriors. The people met them as the long-awaited liberators and defenders from the Nazi invaders and local corrupt policemen. With their arrival, the Kramatorsk residents felt that the Donbass was not forgotten as well as the Crimea.
      A few days later they told me that a certain Cossack with the call sign “Dingo” was looking for a guitar. I said that I was ready to give mine, and then he was called. He behaved so simply that then I didn’t even realize that in front of me was the gallant intelligence commander of Kramatorsk. Later I gave him my six-string ... by then he had already bought bass and solo, wanting to create a rock band, I even hoped to participate (he was enough for that, he was a versatile person) ...
      I learned about him as a field commander after the glorious operation of assaulting the ukrov checkpoint at Stella Slavyansk: in pitch darkness to the song of Vysotsky “Center Group Soldiers”, during which the enemy lost in equipment and manpower, and the remaining demoralized soldiers fled to Mount Karachun, where they were met by their welcoming friendly fire ...
      Eternal memory to you, Cossack! I think no one else doubts that you are a hero who did not abandon us, but wandered around our land with his reconnaissance troopers, and, freeing her from the runaway Ukrotuzemtsy and PMKashnikov, he met his fate, and forever entered our history and eternity.

      Glory of the Great Russian Empire! Eternal memory and Glory to You, Hero! Save God! "
    9. Cadet787
      Cadet787 29 August 2014 21: 21
      +1
      29.08.2014 - 18: 57


      Alexander Kots: "Well what can I say about the Point U ... (Photo).
      - Well, what can I say about Point U ... Well, they do not fly a couple, they fall, old ones. This one under the snow flopped. To the garden.
      - This is how Aleksandr Kots commented on the evidence of the attacks by the Ukrainian "liberators" of the inhabitants of Donbass with ballistic missiles.
      It turns out that even Soviet missiles do not want to fight for the Kiev junta ...
      1. AVIATOR36662
        AVIATOR36662 29 August 2014 22: 05
        +3
        The spectacle of the launch of Tochka-U is very, very impressive, especially when two or three units start in cloudless weather. It was in this weather that several Tochka-U units were observed to start from the Shalkhi training ground, which is somewhere near Vladikavkaz 15-18 back. The effectiveness of this complex (everyone remembers from the statements of the media) is simply ideal if professionals work. It's just that “every business needs to learn!” This is an expression from Nosov's fairy tale about Dunno. I often use this expression myself to my grandchildren. But it is generally applicable to everyone and in any age. I really want to believe that there are specialists in "Tochka" in Novorossiya. It cannot be wrong. We will wait for the professional use of this complex by the army of Novorossiya.
  2. nils
    nils 29 August 2014 18: 51
    +10
    It looks like the Ukraine project is ending in the near future.
    1. tanit
      tanit 29 August 2014 18: 58
      +7
      Unfortunately, this project is still crumbling and shaking. They will also shoot at our backs, that is, the Novorossiysk army, in the same Mariupol.
  3. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 29 August 2014 18: 52
    +4
    Yes, parashenko just a puppet serves the Americans a fascist he didn’t stay for long, most likely they’ll strangle them if they fail to escape
    1. AQUARIUS 65
      AQUARIUS 65 29 August 2014 21: 46
      +1
      VICTOR-61
      Yes, parashenko just a puppet serves the Americans a fascist he didn’t stay for long, most likely they’ll strangle them if they fail to escape

      Poroshenko is a toy in the hands of more powerful political forces, including international


      And he understands this very well. But there is no turning back. And he does not know what to do.
      Photography is more eloquent than any words.
  4. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 29 August 2014 18: 53
    +25
    laughing just a joke ... laughing
    1. Yon_Silent
      Yon_Silent 29 August 2014 19: 28
      +2
      since such a booze has gone ..
      "- Comrade Sergeant, I won't wear this.
      - Cho are you yelling, fighter?
      - I won’t ...
      - And on e..alu?
      “And you try, Comrade Sergeant!”
      - That's an order!
      - This is not according to the charter!
      - And I have everything, according to the charter ?! I, b ..., my whole life is not according to the charter! He ate dogs in Chechnya! Fucking Ukrainian taught - I’m the son of the officer, the priest, from Simferopol! He painted his face with shoe polish - dont be a jester, bro! hand-wap! What's this?! Also according to the charter ?!
      - Comrade Sergeant, they will make fun of us ...
      - Put on a kilt, son, and get in line, I said !!! To jump tomorrow ... Nothing ... Over there in England, the guards wear these skirts - so the GRU special forces will be able to ... ohohoh ... "

      Nick Shepelev. "Blood and Guts"
      1. Magic archer
        Magic archer 29 August 2014 19: 38
        -2
        Mykola! Send her a beat!
        Petro, what if they are us ?!
        And us for sho?)) laughing
  5. Magic archer
    Magic archer 29 August 2014 18: 54
    +8
    Ukrainians, by the way, say so, all areas bordering Russia are hostile! We are sending them weapons and soldiers across the border. I asked one of them what about Kharkov?! To which he replied, we keep the border there and the entire pro-Russian opposition there planted or kicked out. Here is such a democracy in dill ....
  6. andrei332809
    andrei332809 29 August 2014 18: 55
    +4
    "You can not ignore the will of the insurgent people of New Russia"

    and it won’t work out.
  7. olegglin
    olegglin 29 August 2014 18: 55
    +10
    Humble militias say hello to the National Guard:
    1. Sergeqr
      Sergeqr 29 August 2014 19: 07
      +2
      Cool movie!
      Faster them: the National Guard without talking to destroy,
      contingent brainless to restore to bluish blue.
      Glory to the New Russia!
      1. WKS
        WKS 29 August 2014 23: 17
        +2
        Quote: Sergeqr
        Cool movie!
        Faster them: the National Guard without talking to destroy,
        contingent brainless to restore to bluish blue.
        Glory to the New Russia!

        Only cats give birth quickly.
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 29 August 2014 18: 57
    +2
    Yes, you will not envy dill. New Russia rules. What is Kharkov there? Does anyone have info?
    Along the way, we will soon see "flags on the towers" in the center of Kharkov.
    1. WKS
      WKS 29 August 2014 23: 20
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Yes, you will not envy dill. New Russia rules. What is Kharkov there? Does anyone have info?
      Along the way, we will soon see "flags on the towers" in the center of Kharkov.

      In Kharkov, according to polls, 30% for the continuation of the ATO in the Donbass, 30% blame Russia for the war, and the rest are waiting for something.
  9. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery 29 August 2014 19: 00
    +5
    Well, I breathed a fume on Vladimir Vladimirovich Poroshenko, promised to free the Russian paratroopers, that’s the whole result of the negotiations. I do not want him to be the president of the semi-Ukraine; I want Vse. But it doesn’t work out, and therefore he yelled upon arrival in Kiev about Russian aggression. And no prospects are visible. It remains to go into binge again, and there will come another doctor-anesthetist like Merkel. Generally - agony.
    1. PATTIY
      PATTIY 29 August 2014 20: 36
      +1
      Quote: surovts.valery
      Merkel-type anesthetist

      not Merkel, but Frost Red Nose!
  10. avt
    avt 29 August 2014 19: 03
    +3
    "Vladimir Putin has no reason to compromise with Poroshenko" - request In fact, they compromise with EQUAL. And who is Porosenko ??? The issue of compromise, hypothetically, can be resolved in the negotiations between Keri and Lavrov.
  11. His
    His 29 August 2014 19: 07
    +3
    Well said Dorenko
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    -8UxFw & feature = player_detailpage]
  12. Signature
    Signature 29 August 2014 19: 15
    +4
    Someone from the leaders of Novorossia noted that the situation of 1917 could be repeated: in February - a bourgeois coup, and in October, respectively ...
    Therefore, in Mariupol, and in Kharkov, and anywhere in the back, they will shoot (hence the gunners from the residents of Donetsk). The antagonism was not just linguistic (Russian-speaking versus Ukrainian-speaking), but with the complication of a serious social component ("the lower classes do not want to live in the old way"). And, therefore, it is difficult to say who is unequivocally interested in the victory of the militia.
    1. fiodor
      fiodor 29 August 2014 19: 26
      +7
      The militias themselves are primarily interested in the victory of the militia, otherwise they would not have fought if they did not believe in victory.
      1. Signature
        Signature 29 August 2014 19: 40
        +1
        Doubting the interest of the militias was not in my thoughts. But in the picture under the heading (where six gentlemen and one lady) there are no militias. Speech, of course, is about the persons involved in the "summit".
        1. Signature
          Signature 29 August 2014 20: 20
          +1
          By common sense, I’m taking off the topic: it looks like some kind of ridiculous provocation (for my part, of course).
      2. tanit
        tanit 30 August 2014 04: 57
        0
        Quote: fiodor
        The militias themselves are primarily interested in the victory of the militia, otherwise they would not have fought if they did not believe in victory.

        And for what in Serbian lands our fought? For victory? Yes, there didn’t smell of victory. We fought for ours.
        They are fighting for ours now. There are already almost forgotten words - our.
        1. fiodor
          fiodor 30 August 2014 13: 52
          +2
          Well, of course, for their land, for their home, for their own, for themselves, for ours, for the Slavs, for the Russians, but with faith in the future, in victory and faith in God.
  13. RUSLAT
    RUSLAT 29 August 2014 19: 29
    +1
    The junta is better to go immediately to the world. Transfer half of the territory of Ukraine to Novorosia and pay indemnity with restoration of damage. Otherwise, the militias themselves will take everything right up to Lviv!
  14. Loner_53
    Loner_53 29 August 2014 19: 31
    0
    Vladimir Vladimirovich took parosenko to a painful receiver! There will also be consequences, it will heal for a long time and may not heal winked
  15. Black
    Black 29 August 2014 19: 32
    +2
    it is necessary to compromise with Poroshenko! For example, to promise him the top shelf in the caches ... even for the unit that is opposite to the one consonant with his last name (pseudonym). And he ... well, cho from him .... yes, in general, almost nothing is needed. yes

    the lamb passed it today ... stating that the United States without Ukraine has plenty to defend who to protect ... The Balts are already falling into fragments. And we will not give weapons, he says, anyway the militia will go over.
    Europe demanded to pay gas bills ....
    "Frost Voevoda", however, is not far off, not beyond the valleys !!!
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 29 August 2014 20: 36
      +1
      Quote: Chen
      it is necessary to compromise with Poroshenko!

      Ukraine recognizes Crimea as Russian, in smile the response of the Russian Federation recognizes the DNI and LC ...
      1. hooligan
        hooligan 30 August 2014 01: 29
        +1
        The GDP needs to be defended by Crimea and Novorossia) and there is simply no such prezor Poroshenko)
  16. zone72
    zone72 29 August 2014 19: 46
    0
    THERE IS IF GOD GOTS GETS LOOKING LIKE THE ULTRASES HOPPING THE MILITARY PEOPLE THAT EXACTLY WILL NOT BE DISPLACED WITH ANYONE WITH ANYONE.
  17. Veteran of the Red Army
    Veteran of the Red Army 29 August 2014 19: 53
    +4
    Negotiations took place in Minsk yesterday between Vladimir Putin, Petro Poroshenko, representatives of the European Union and the leaders of the countries of the Customs Union (Kazakhstan and Belarus).

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/874/knkf785.jpg
    1. Max otto
      Max otto 29 August 2014 21: 02
      +2
      They got up correctly, does Parash manage urkaine?
  18. Veteran of the Red Army
    Veteran of the Red Army 29 August 2014 19: 54
    +2
    That is, Poroshenko is largely a toy in the hands of more powerful political forces, including international ones.

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/205/uifd745.jpg
  19. Iline
    Iline 29 August 2014 20: 02
    0
    The confusion and vacillations in the masses and among the oligarchy in Ukraine are very strong. Poroshenko wants his military coup (and his coming to power he is) to be legitimate or simply to distract people from these thoughts with new elections to the Rada. Only now in a wolf pack he is not a recognized leader and this can play into the hands of the army of New Russia.
    Soon it may happen that in the new government there will be no one to agree on any issue, since all these "leaders" will be able to control the situation only in their closest circle.
  20. Listen grandfather
    Listen grandfather 29 August 2014 20: 22
    0
    Miroslav Niyazov: Ukraine is the “Kozlik”, which is now torn to pieces by the East and West ............. AND WHERE IS STANDING BACK TO US AND BEFORE THEM ... WELL AND WE WILL REACH US WITH IT HORNS AND HORNS
  21. vodolaz
    vodolaz 29 August 2014 21: 21
    0
    Khan of Ukraine as a country.
    1. hooligan
      hooligan 30 August 2014 01: 32
      +1
      Quote: vodolaz
      Khan of Ukraine as a country.
      Amen!
  22. Evilcat
    Evilcat 29 August 2014 21: 57
    +1
    Negotiations took place in Minsk yesterday between Vladimir Putin, Petro Poroshenko, representatives of the European Union and the leaders of the countries of the Customs Union (Kazakhstan and Belarus).

    It seems like he should respect his President ...

    Nazarbayev:
    In 1973-1977 - Secretary of the Party Committee of the Karaganda Metallurgical Plant [4].
    In 1977-1979 - secretary, second secretary of the Karaganda regional party committee.
    In 1979-1984 - Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Kazakhstan.
    In 1984-1989 - Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the Kazakh SSR.
    In 1989-1991 - First Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Kazakhstan.
    From July 14, 1990 to August 23, 1991 - Member of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU.
    Member of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR 10-11 convocations (1979-1989) from the North Kazakhstan region [5]
    People's Deputy of the USSR from 1989 to January 1992.
    In February - April 1990 - at the same time Chairman of the Supreme Council of the Kazakh SSR.
    Since April 1990 - President of the Kazakh SSR.

    Lukashenko:
    There is nothing to say. It began with the Bialowieza Accords and where is Belarus now.

    Putin:
    Do not discuss.

    Should I continue to chew, or is everything clear already?
  23. Alfizik
    Alfizik 29 August 2014 22: 06
    +2
    How much can you feel! It's time to test the Kolymsky usurper. For strength, or, as the people say, for vigilance.
  24. Gnufus
    Gnufus 29 August 2014 22: 16
    0
    as if they weren’t released into the arena of ulya Timoshka according to plan B, and the piglet was drained
  25. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 29 August 2014 23: 24
    0
    The last paragraph of the article says that Kharkovites are, well, indifferent, let's say that! I note that this is said by the author in the article! Those who can read, let them read.
  26. Victor-M
    Victor-M 29 August 2014 23: 52
    +1
    Anxiety swept the representatives of the authorities. Yulia Tymoshenko demands to declare war on Russia, Igor Kolomoisky urgently builds defensive lines on the outskirts of Dnepropetrovsk. As it became known to the publication Life News, the oligarch is even preparing to blow up the Dnieper hydroelectric station and flood everything around if the militiamen approach Zaporizhia.

    The most ardent supporters of “united Ukraine” promise to direct their bayonets against the government. The leader of the Right Sector, Dmitry Yarosh, has repeatedly stated that he is ready to go to Kiev. So the situation for Poroshenko is not at all joyful.


    Yarosh is ready to go to Kiev, if only as soon as possible under the specious excuse to pull off from New Russia. laughing
  27. I think so
    I think so 30 August 2014 02: 11
    0
    Of all this brawl, only this woman was impressed! Well and fear! I did not expect her to be so ugly! Moreover, the mare’s face and brain are the same ...
  28. Barakuda
    Barakuda 30 August 2014 04: 38
    0
    He was a miner
  29. andrejwz
    andrejwz 30 August 2014 07: 19
    +1
    But nevertheless, we cannot call Poroshenko quite an imposter.

    And we also cannot openly voice the publicly seen and understood open participation of the foreign ministers of France, Germany and Poland in the anti-constitutional coup in Ukraine. So unseemly that we shyly turn away and bypass any recollection of it. It seems like nothing happened. But there was. And we shouldn't have talked about it, but shouted. And Putin shaking Poroshenko's hand is a shame. But this is Putin and we are bashfully silent. Not just scolding, criticizing Putin is impossible, self-censorship will negate him. And the fact that we maintain ("closely cooperate") relations with Germany, France and Poland through political criminals, through misunderstanding or malicious intent of the foreign ministers, makes us complicit in the ongoing political mess.
  30. shef598
    shef598 30 August 2014 07: 26
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    Quote: Victor-M
    Yulia Tymoshenko demands to declare war on Russia

    Again put on galaperidol ????