About the "poor hussars" put in a word
Ten of our paratroopers 331 parachute regiment were in fennel. One, judging by the testimony of the deputy platoon commander, a mechanic-driver of the BMD, who received burns, is in the hospital, and the other nine are given interviews under the cameras of the SBU and the Ukrainian media.According to RBC or SBU (I often confuse them), they allegedly were detained on August 24 near the settlement Zerkalnoye (Dzerkale) of Amvrosevsky district of Donetsk region in 20 km from the Russian-Ukrainian border. Already 25 August, the SBU published on the Internet the testimony of four prisoners: Sergeant Generalov AN, Gv. Corporal Smirnova A.D., Milchakova I.V. and Romantseva I.I. All four of them with varying degrees of inertness told that they arrived in the Rostov region for training exercises as part of a battalion and unexpectedly found themselves on the territory of Ukraine, where they came under fire and surrendered without a fight.
I will leave aside for the time being their statements that they were supposedly suddenly “seen the light”, and that Bandera’s supposedly are the best friends of humanity. I want to draw attention to some of the details that the "directors" could not smack.
According to the SBU / RBC, shelling of the column and the capture of paratroopers occurred on August 24 in the area of the settlement. Mirror. This is approximately 4-5 km southwest of s. Kuteynikovo.
Question: How could our column be there? If, according to the SBU, they drove a convoy with military equipment into the DPR, then why did you choose this most inappropriate route for this purpose? Let me remind you that with 23-24 of August the troops of the DPR launched an offensive in the area and, pushing the punitive forces away from the border, drove them into the Amvrosievsky boiler.
At this time, safely and covertly, it was possible to conduct a column north of the area, where the militiamen confidently controlled the territory, for example, at the Kozhevnya – Black Zhovten section.
All the prisoners in one voice say that they did not know where they were going and didn’t expect to come under fire. Here they are absolutely sincere. It is hard to imagine that in the conditions of a battle, shootout, and artillery cannonade, anyone with any purpose, and especially a “secret mission,” would have crossed this zone. Yes, and punitive at this point was clearly not to capture prisoners. It is even more difficult to imagine that unprepared and non-instructed fighters are sent to fulfill the secret mission. It is obvious from the testimony of Smirnov and Romantsev that they did not expect to be in someone else’s territory and come under fire. About Generalov and Milchakov talk separate.
In my opinion, the statement of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation that the unit accidentally wandered into foreign territory looks more like the truth, but this could not have happened on August 24 in this area.
So where and when did this happen?
Here are the testimony of I. Romantsev: August 16 announced the collection, August August 17 began loading on the train, unloaded in the area of Rostov-on-Don on the station. Matveyevka.
In the Rostov region there is no art. Matveyevka, but there is art. Matveyev Kurgan, north-west of Rostov-on-Don. It is located about 20 km from the border with Ukraine in the area of the border crossing Matveyev Kurgan - Checkpoint "Uspenka" and about 60 km from Zerkalny. I can assume that the locals probably call it “Matveyevka” for short.
With high probability, we can conclude that the Kostroma paratroopers unloaded exactly at this station. According to one of the paratroopers at a press conference (the materials of which were published on 27 August), the unit was to take the 70-kilometer march, on which the 3 of the day was assigned, took the route the next day after unloading and were captured the same day.
How many days they moved in a train from Kostroma to the Rostov-on-Don region is not known. However (by experience) no more than 1-3 days. So, they could go on campaigns 19, 20 or 21 August.
At this time, to the south of the checkpoint "Ouspenka" the border and the territory adjacent to it were controlled by the punishers and this area was still in their deep rear. This means that no hostilities were conducted on this part of the August 20-21 border.
20 August, NSDC spokesman Lysenko denied reports in the UkroSMI that the Russian convoy was fired on the territory of Ukraine. And ukroSMI reported that the Russian column was broken, that Russian paratroopers were captured and captured BMD-2. Since such "slop" regularly appeared before, no one paid attention to it.
Even then, many were wondering why this “voice of truth” from the National Security Council began to disprove its own media. Previously, this has never happened before, despite the most monstrous and absurd lie.
In my mind, there can be only one explanation. Trapped paratroopers captured (how and why - more on that below) namely 20 of August or the day before. But on August 20, four prisoners “let out juice” and “sang” during interrogation in front of the cameras by the notes of the SBU. The rest of the six could not immediately break, as evidenced by bruises on their faces. It was decided to hold this desired "candy" and use it on the eve of the meeting in Minsk, that is, they laid a testicle for Petrov's day.
Now about where, in what place captured our soldiers. For this you need to refer to the story of Guards. Sergeant Savosteyev at a press conference. According to him, after the start of the march, one crew fell behind, and the platoon commander ordered the two BMD convoy to be deployed and return for the laggards. Further Savosteev says that they returned to the railway crossing (!), Where they found the lagging BMD.
Let's look at the map of the area. The only railway in this sector is the Rostov-on-Don-Donetsk road, it goes through the Matveyev Kurgan station, the Uspenka checkpoint and Amvrosievka.
On the satellite map (thanks to Google), it is clearly seen that the railway is banked and has forest shelter plantations. On the whole stretch from Matveyev Kurgan to Amvrosiyivka there are only three railway crossings: 1) in the area of Samara settlement; 2) directly at the border crossing checkpoint "Matveyev Kurgan" - checkpoint "Uspenka" - on the Russian side and 3) in the village of Lysyche - on the Ukrainian side.
Funny, but true. The only railroad crossing that falls under the description is a crossing into Russian territory in the region of the settlement of Samara. This is the only move, which is located at some distance from the settlements. Such a move could be used to move the column of armored vehicles.
Let us return to the story Savosteev. He said that after connecting with the lagging BMD, they moved back to the crossroads, where they turned right (!) And, after traveling a few kilometers, did not find the main group and returned back. Then, unable to communicate by radio, they again advanced along the road leading to the right, drove several kilometers and came under fire.
If we proceed from the fact that this group ended up on Ukrainian territory, then a turn to the right meant that they initially moved from north to south or from northeast to southwest, i.e. along the border, and then turned to the west or north-west. Such a maneuver from moving to Lysychem could not have led them to Zerkalnoye where they were allegedly detained. They would have simply rested against Amvrosiyevka.
From Milchakov’s testimony, it can be seen that immediately before the shelling they were near some village where they saw a tank with a Ukrainian flag.
If this story is “tried on” to the map of the area, taking into account the terrain relief, multiple intersections of country roads, then we can conclude that the mountain paratroopers slipped into Ukrainian territory in the four-kilometer stretch of the border south-west of Avila-Uspenka and came across Stepnoye settlements or Vyselki (one simply cannot pass by), i.e. penetrated into the adjacent territory to a depth of no more than 4-5 km (the map can be assessed here: http://militarymaps.info/). To the south of this flat segment stretches a deep ravine 25-30 km long. There, judging by the story Savosteev, they just could not call on the BMD.
Such details, which themselves do not seem to say anything, it is impossible to compose specifically, because they reveal a picture only as a result of a focused, attentive analysis. SBU explicitly looked at these details.
In this part of the story Savosteyev can be trusted, because it is confirmed by objective data.
Thus, it can be concluded that the statement of the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation that the Russian servicemen, who were patrolling along the border, happened to be in the adjacent territory, is true. That they were detained not far from the border, and the place of detention in Zerkalnoye was “transferred” by the SBU to create the appearance of “deep penetration” into Ukrainian territory.
And now we will stop on some "weirdness" and "accidents".
From May-June, Ukrainian officials, the US State Department, Obama himself, a number of European leaders, and other EU officials tirelessly declared Russian military involvement in the conflict in southeast Ukraine. Every time the Foreign Ministry and the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation denied these statements, even allowed the OSCE mission to the border. This whole howl was broken about a simple question: “Where is the evidence?”
August Poroshenko’s 16 in a telephone conversation with Cameron stated that a Russian column of armored vehicles had been broken on Ukrainian territory. There is no evidence again. Maybe again hurried, as in the case of Boeing.
It is clear that at least some evidence of the presence of Russian troops in the territory of Ukraine Poroshenko and his minions were needed as air. Especially recently, when, after retaliatory Russian sanctions, European politicians began to look more soberly at the Ukrainian conflict.
It is easy to assume that the task of finding “relevant evidence” was set by the SBU. But how can this be done if the Russians do not go to war with Ukraine and do not send troops there? So you need to seize someone on the border or somehow lure into its territory. A bet on chance seems naive to me.
It should be borne in mind that the demarcation of the Russian-Ukrainian border has not yet been carried out. On the ground, where the ukropatriots did not have time to dig ditches, the border is not marked. In this regard, the plan for the capture of some patrolling group near the border looks quite feasible: the border is deserted in many places, and the checkpoints are far enough away from each other. Attacks and shelling from the Ukrainian side of the Russian border guards and customs officers have already been recorded. It is possible that there were other clashes, about which we are not aware. In recent months, our territory has been repeatedly shelled. The goal is obvious - to provoke an armed conflict. The position of the Russian side - under no circumstances resist provocations - the Ukrainian side is well known. Under these conditions, even the seizure of our soldiers in the Russian border area (you must prove that whose land it is), with the support of Western propaganda, may well “roll” under the Russian invasion. Entry into the war with Ukraine in the political plans of Russia is not included. This may explain why individual clashes, if they occurred, are not publicized.
I cited all these judgments in connection with the fact that RBC (or the SBU, I am confusing again) with reference to my sources reported that lately several paratroopers from different formations had died at the exercises in the Rostov region. Ukrainian journalists at the said press conference also reported this in their questions to the prisoners. Here we see a consistent imposition of the conclusions that de Russian soldiers are dying on Ukrainian soil. It is not at all surprising that psaki develops the same topic on behalf of the US State Department, and synchronous stirring in the "Committee of Soldiers' Mothers" begins. We all saw this bundle in the 90s.
All this is a general background, but let us return to the prisoners of Kostroma.
Personally, it seems to me very strange that the captured paratroopers (and now we know that this happened near our border most likely on August 20) literally during the first hours were subjected to “emergency gutting”, and within a few hours, two of them were broken (this refers to Smirnov and Romantsev) and agreed under the cameras to state what they were asked to by the Sbushniki. Otherwise, it is impossible to explain why Lysenko already 20 August disavowed leaks that appeared in UkroSMI. The interrogation was obviously conducted not by field commanders or territorial SBUshniki. It seems that the children of these waiting there.
An analysis of the video recording of the interrogation of Smirnov and Romantsev definitely indicates that they were stunned by the detention. Psychologically, they were not ready to be in a combat situation, which once again confirms that they did not overtake any equipment. Obviously, none of the fighters expected to be on foreign territory and fall under real fire. One can even see where they were broken - one has a pregnant wife, the other has a young family and a child. Surely they had a psychological impact: you are illegal with weapons entered foreign territory, the war on terrorism is here, you are terrorists, and according to the laws of wartime we can shoot you, think of your loved ones, etc. They could even shoot in their eyes someone from the prisoners of the militia for the frenzy. Punishers - one word. The video clearly shows what the prisoners are saying freely, even if they stammer, and what they said at the behest of SBUshnikov. In Smirnov’s view, doom is read — he understands that he is committing treason, and Romantsev justifies himself: “I didn’t subscribe to this. All this is sewn with white thread.
The other two, the Generals and Milchakov, behaved quite differently. The generals “sang” as if they repeatedly rehearsed their speech and behaved like a typical defector, and in Milchakov’s eyes one can clearly see the fear of a man who decided on an adventure. I would not be surprised if these two were left behind by the BMD and somehow contributed to the deviation from the route.
I have serious suspicions that the military counterintelligence with respect to these fighters strongly "slammed their ears."
I don’t know what will happen next with these fighters, but it will not be easy to scratch them out of captivity.
PS While I was writing, Poroshenko’s statement about the “Russian invasion” appeared. It seems that these would-be warriors want to use to the fullest. So, the “four” talkatives can seriously aggravate the conflict ...
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