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Media: German aviation is in poor condition

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In the Air Force of Germany there is a severe shortage of funding: dozens of aircraft have become unusable for a long time, and there is not enough money to repair them. "RT in Russian" notes that this was reported by the German edition Der Spiegelreferring to the data of a confidential report, which fell into the hands of journalists.



Only one tenth of the CH-53 helicopters and the Eurofighter Typhoon fighters are in perfect working order. Due to the catastrophic shortage of funds, mechanics have to disassemble the old aircraft to “patch up” a newer one.

The publication notes that the report data caused great concern in the military circles of Germany. However, representatives of the German Ministry of Defense said that it was misinterpreted: there allegedly contains a list of equipment that requires regular maintenance, which does not mean that it is out of order.

Such a reaction of the authorities is quite natural: serious problems in the German Air Force may prevent Germany from participating in NATO military activities. According to official figures, the country ranks second in the alliance by the standards of international influence, and its aviation is in fourth place in terms of power. However, the published data say something completely different.

It is worth noting that recently the United States has been urging NATO members to increase military funding because of the “Russian threat in Ukraine.” However, such requirements could put Germany in a dead end, as the authorities of the country plan to further reduce their own defense budget, which will cause even greater decline, including in the German Air Force.

Earlier it was reported that from 28 of NATO members only 4 countries were able to meet the current standard for allocating military spending, but after the Crimea joined Russia, 7 states, primarily Eastern Europe, began to move in this direction.
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  1. tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim 28 August 2014 09: 18
    +1
    Rich Germany, and saves on the army! She drives herself into the coffin.
    1. KAPITANUS
      KAPITANUS 28 August 2014 09: 21
      +9
      She is not a friend of Russia, so keep it up!
      1. Момент
        Момент 28 August 2014 09: 37
        0
        With the head of the German government is very deplorable. And nothing-they rule.
        1. rodevaan
          rodevaan 28 August 2014 12: 17
          +2
          Well, for example, the Army of Belarus is quite capable of defeating the Bundeswehr. Both in heaven and on earth.
          You will not spoil the Old Man, there, unlike the Ukrainians and Fritz, everything that has passed from the USSR flies and goes, and even modernizes.
          1. supertiger21
            supertiger21 28 August 2014 21: 03
            0
            With all patriotism, do not underestimate the enemy stop ! The armed forces of Belarus are impressive, but the Bundeswehr is also a very serious and worthy adversary. As for air superiority, I doubt a little. Since the Belarusian MiG-29, with all their technical performance, is physically outdated, because they were built during the USSR. The German Air Force is doing better, the basis of aviation is Eurofighter Typhoon - generation 4+ fighters with radar with headlamps and, in some versions, with airborne engines, all this makes them a worthy and quite dangerous opponent for the 29th MiGs. Do not forget about the human factor when comparing aviation.
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 28 August 2014 09: 23
      +8
      for inexpensive we can sort out our MiGs, recapitalize ... wassat(photo in the sky above Germany)
      1. stalfal
        stalfal 28 August 2014 09: 27
        -2
        In Russia, it just so happened - everything domestic is being repaired in the garage on the knee. And with minimal capital investment. wassat
      2. Nayhas
        Nayhas 28 August 2014 10: 39
        +1
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        for inexpensive, we can sort out our MiGs, recapitalize ... wassat (photo in the sky over Germany)

        They have long been sold. In Germany there were no pilots left, who remembers them.
    3. GRAY
      GRAY 28 August 2014 10: 15
      0
      Quote: tronin.maxim
      Rich Germany, and saves on the army! She drives herself into the coffin.

      So the Bundeswehr also pays taxes.
      11.03.2012
      German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble invited the government to introduce taxes for military personnel and civilian personnel from the Ministry of Defense in 2013, The Local reports citing the local press. According to the publication, the corresponding proposal is contained in the tax plan for the next financial year, prepared by the Schäuble office.

      However, the initiative of the Ministry of Finance raised sharp objections from the Minister of Defense Thomas de Mezieres and the Minister for Family Affairs Cristina Schroeder. Both of them indicate that the tax-free regime for military personnel and civilian personnel makes it possible to equip the armed forces with the necessary number of volunteers.

      Schäuble, however, insists that since the army in the Federal Republic of Germany is professional, the military and civilian personnel, in fact, are employees hired by the state and are subject to tax laws.

      However, the German Servicemen's Association called the initiative "destructive". Union spokesman Ulrich Kirsch said in this regard: "This is a voluntary service to the community. If the government lightens the wallets of these people, the army career will become much less attractive."

      Until July 1, 2011, the Bundeswehr was equipped on a mixed basis, along with conscripts serving along with volunteers. After this date, the army became fully contracted.
      I heard that the initiative was successful. An occupied country, the Americans are milking it in all areas.
    4. Altona
      Altona 28 August 2014 10: 22
      +1
      Quote: tronin.maxim
      Rich Germany, and saves on the army! She drives herself into the coffin.

      ---------------------
      Germany is doing everything absolutely right ... Germany is an occupied country and an American protectorate in Europe, therefore its security, like the security of all of Europe, is the smack of Americans ... In general, like all NATO ... Plus, NATO has a large bureaucracy, which In my opinion, it eats up the entire budget ... For us, this is generally good, because NATO, in addition to physical weakness, also shows operational weakness and all of it cannot fight at once until it receives the consent of its parliaments ... Therefore, the most combat-ready are fighting a maximum of 4-5 countries ... For amers, this is also a pain in the neck, because the Amerovo military-industrial complex needs to shove its ammunition and devices somewhere ...
    5. Giant thought
      Giant thought 28 August 2014 10: 37
      0
      The less combat-efficient equipment Germany has, the better for us.
  2. Magic archer
    Magic archer 28 August 2014 09: 20
    +12
    Hmm. If Germany’s airplanes became unusable and there’s nothing to be repaired, then what happens to Italians or Portuguese, for example!? Germany is the EU’s main economic donor. And there’s not enough money! Strange .. And by the way, why in the photo Rafal ???! If the article is about the German air force, then there should be Eurofighter !!!
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 28 August 2014 09: 26
      +9
      Quote: Magic Archer
      And not enough money! Strange.

      Yes, there’s just enough, just the Germans really understand that in the near future no one is going to attack them, and there are few fools to feed the US military-industrial complex.
      1. serega.fedotov
        serega.fedotov 28 August 2014 10: 08
        +1
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Yes, there’s just enough, just the Germans really understand that in the near future no one is going to attack them, and there are few fools to feed the US military-industrial complex.

        Yes, and in the adventure of the United States can be unflattering, excuse iron!
  3. turanchox
    turanchox 28 August 2014 09: 22
    +3
    in the photo "Rafale"
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    2. Papakiko
      Papakiko 28 August 2014 11: 43
      0
      Quote: Turanchox
      in the photo "Rafale"

      Etozhzhzh does not really care for anyone, as in general one tenth of CH-53 helicopters and Eurofighter Typhoon fighters
      Tornadoes - 200 pcs.
      100 Eurofayters
      Eurocopters - a lot ...
      And so on to infinity according to the mantra "everything is lost."
      Article golem button accordion.
      Why is there no information in the article about the German car industry in which everything is also probably "bad".
      Probably we will soon see an article about the crappy (wasabi) condition of the Japanese Air Force.
  4. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 28 August 2014 09: 22
    +1
    In the light of recent events, they began to prepare for war ...

    pisi: Apparently Germany, which "drags" the entire EU on itself, had extra money ...
    1. avt
      avt 28 August 2014 10: 11
      +1
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      In the light of recent events, they began to prepare for war ...

      Yes, it seems like not just crying about the fact that everything fell apart - they really want to launch the dough for weapons, which is what the US has long been demanding from the EU. so rejoice I would beware.
  5. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 28 August 2014 09: 24
    +1
    Yes, even in Germany, at least the whole war was better for us. The main thing is that we rearmament at a good pace with modern weapons. Thanks to the designers.
    1. yehat
      yehat 28 August 2014 09: 49
      0
      it is necessary to rearm not with modern, but with advanced weapons.
      The 20th iteration of Kalash or T72 is not rearmament, but only replenishment.
  6. Wedmak
    Wedmak 28 August 2014 09: 28
    +3
    If you believe this, and so it goes further, only Russia and the United States will remain well armed. Separated by the oceans, and not able to wage a classic land war among themselves. And the ICBM is the last argument. World-peace? Only now the Middle East will remain calm.
    1. Funnels
      Funnels 28 August 2014 10: 29
      +3
      Dear, China is on the way.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 28 August 2014 10: 40
        0
        China yes, on the way. But for now, he can only take a number. Chinese technology, of course, is rapidly catching up with ours, and in some places with American ones. However, it is one thing to catch up, and quite another to stand up and outrun.
  7. P-38
    P-38 28 August 2014 09: 35
    0
    Interestingly, and those MiG-29s that they got when Gorbachev leaked the GDR still fly? I'm still upset that we gave them away.
    1. FACKtoREAL
      FACKtoREAL 28 August 2014 09: 41
      -1
      Quote: P-38
      Interestingly, and those MiG-29s that they got when Gorbachev leaked the GDR still fly? I'm still upset that we gave them away.

      only our Migi are in their Air Force and "fly" ... byada, damn it! crying
      and far, do you steal a Mercedes on our Drying even on the runway? request
      wassat
    2. Proud.
      Proud. 28 August 2014 09: 44
      +1
      Quote: P-38
      Interestingly, and those MiG-29s that they got when Gorbachev leaked the GDR still fly? I'm still upset that we gave them away.

      Maybe a few can still take off, but they are clearly not in service. The Germans sold them to their "friends" Poles 10 years ago, at a symbolic price of 1 euro. One MiG-29 was left in the Luftwaffe Museum. By the way, the GDR pilots called them MiG -29 "Red Diva".
    3. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 28 August 2014 09: 44
      +1
      Quote: P-38
      Interestingly, and those MiG-29s that they got when Gorbachev leaked the GDR still fly? I'm still upset that we gave them away.

      Uv. Pavel, After the unification of Germany, its Air Force inherited 24 MiG-29s from the Air Force and air defense forces of the former GDR. Originally designed for air defense missions in East Germany, the MiG-29 "Fulcrum" fighters were the only combat aircraft left in service with the German Air Force. These fighters were participants in various air force exercises. The aircraft were modernized for integration into the NATO system, but in 2002 22 fighters were transferred to Poland. hi
  8. mig31
    mig31 28 August 2014 09: 36
    0
    The Luftwaffe degenerates ...
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 August 2014 09: 39
    +1
    Russia "mourns" the state of German aviation. God grant that there is a deplorable state throughout NATO.
  10. RUSOIVAN
    RUSOIVAN 28 August 2014 09: 42
    0
    Is this an attempt to beg money from the US? And what: everyone is asking, what is worse than the Germans? What if they give?
    Not "asking", but "begging".
  11. Vend
    Vend 28 August 2014 09: 44
    0
    Here is the answer to the lovers of the West. NATO has long been not as combat-ready as it is trying to teach. It seems that this is just PR, and not particularly talented. Like any US project.
  12. Freeway_3007
    Freeway_3007 28 August 2014 09: 46
    +1
    Quote: mig31
    The Luftwaffe degenerates ...


    They "degenerated" in the 45th. The modern Luftwaffe is a pale shadow of their former greatness.
  13. Bowless
    Bowless 28 August 2014 10: 06
    0
    There was the Luftwaffe, became the Luftwaffle.
  14. KBPC50
    KBPC50 28 August 2014 10: 06
    +1
    The Germans have nothing to fear. Russia will not go to war with them! Why the hell do we need them together with Germany ?! But in the technical interaction, in economic cooperation, the future of all of Europe. Soon the elections in France I want Madame LE PEN to be the President there, the French will leave NATO, you see, and the Germans dare, although the occupied country has 289 US bases on their territory, what can I take from them?
  15. sazhka4
    sazhka4 28 August 2014 10: 07
    0
    Imagine their state when Putin announced over 20 trillion weapons
    But we have weapons for our loved ones will be cheaper than in the west. We will be "cooler" in terms of quality and capabilities. Well, Russia will ensure the mass character. No getting used to, not the first time ..
    Rather than buying from the outskirts, it is easier to transport the plant with personnel to Cheboksary. Further Antonov and Yuzhmash? )))
  16. RUSLAT
    RUSLAT 28 August 2014 10: 24
    0
    Last year, information on the debts of the leading countries of the world appeared on one of the Latvian sites, after half an hour it disappeared. So German debts, according to that article, exceed the country's GDP by 130 percent! Therefore, it is not surprising that there is not enough money for the army.
  17. ImPerts
    ImPerts 28 August 2014 10: 33
    0
    I tried to count, roughly ...
    Germany's GDP is approximately 3,6 billion cu Defense spending 1,3% of GDP. This is enough for the 10-th part of the aircraft. What time will it take to raise costs and where to cut it off?
    Let them raise and spend.
  18. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 28 August 2014 10: 47
    0
    23 "victorious" years and the West have pretty much calmed me down, which is not upsetting at all! request
  19. kelevra
    kelevra 28 August 2014 11: 15
    0
    Another plus in our piggy bank!
  20. bratchanin
    bratchanin 28 August 2014 11: 26
    0
    Well, now you have to "knock with bones", as they said and warned - do not wake the Russian bear. Well, like unreasonable children, really.
  21. Loginoff
    Loginoff 28 August 2014 12: 14
    +1
    I hope the German army will approach the Russian one in the late nineties in terms of "order" and technical condition. winked
  22. Leshka
    Leshka 28 August 2014 12: 14
    0
    I thought it was only we had
  23. igor1981
    igor1981 28 August 2014 12: 21
    0
    What good news. good
  24. wladimir
    wladimir 28 August 2014 13: 00
    +1
    Yes, this information leak is made on purpose. to get extra money for the defense industry.
  25. Horst78
    Horst78 28 August 2014 13: 36
    0
    Only one tenth of the CH-53 helicopters and the Eurofighter Typhoon fighters are in perfect working order. Due to the catastrophic shortage of funds, mechanics have to disassemble the old aircraft to “patch up” a newer one.
    Welcome to the army of Germany sample of the army of Russia in 90x
  26. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 August 2014 13: 40
    +1
    And what were they going to Russia with? Yes, to intercede for Ukraine. Their aviation does not fly without any air defense itself.
  27. tomket
    tomket 28 August 2014 16: 36
    0
    And this situation is called systemic. Even at the time of the war in Libya, there were cases of cannibalization of spare parts among the "Eurofighter". Tellingly, cannibalism occurs in countries that participated in both the development and production of this fighter.
  28. supertiger21
    supertiger21 28 August 2014 21: 07
    0
    One did not understand why the French fighter Dassault Rafal was put on the photo for the article, because he is not in service with Germany ... request