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New Russia gave battle

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A stunning gift for Independence Day received a neo-Nazi regime from the army of New Russia. While Poroshenko arranges parades and plays the play with the lost Russian paratroopers, forgetting about the lost Ukrainian BMP in June, nine thousand of the Ukrainian military and Bandera militants from the death battalions are dying surrounded.

Hide such successes militia turned out to be impossible. The only way out that the false Ukrainian media found was to smear the effect with fables about the incredible losses among the militia. As always, the “heroic” battalions destroy several hundred militiamen a day, but at the same time they are surrounded by the fact that “Russian troops” fire at them from their territory, and the “damned terrorists” hide behind civilians. Yes ... unconvincing ...

Generally a very fun trend. Now, any success of the militias in the opinion of the Ukrainian authorities is exclusively the merit of the Russian army.

New Russia gave battle

In fact, everything is very simple. The counteroffensive has been asking for a long time. Now it becomes clear why it was necessary to leave Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. Having retained an impressive grouping of troops, the militia drew off the main forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the capitals of the people's republics. The Ukrainian military command, apparently, considered taking control of Donetsk and Luhansk as the main likely success. That is why no one was in a hurry to free the soldiers of the APU, surrounded on the border with Russia. They were simply abandoned ... They were abandoned in order to make heroes posthumously ...

Due to the fact that the length of the perimeters of Donetsk and Lugansk is very significant, the Ukrainian troops failed to make a very dense cordon and completely surround these cities. Dodgy pseudo-patriotic propaganda of the command and media punitive did not begin to strengthen their positions enough to restrain the enemy attack. They believed that the “terrorists” were already in a panic and were only waiting for an order to begin the full-scale assault on these cities.


Lunting the vigilance of military and Bandera militants with positional battles, the militia accumulated ever new forces to counterattack. As the cities turned into ruins, an increasing number of volunteers joined the army of New Russia.

That the offensive was being prepared was understandable even by optimistic statements by the leading officials of Novorossia. Oleg Tsaryov, for example, repeatedly stressed that the APU had exposed Mariupol and the Kharkiv region. Therefore, it was quite easy to predict the direction of the impending strike. But not for the US puppet in Kiev ...

The appearance of several new boilers at once, where 7000 soldiers and militants got into the environment, is connected precisely with a number of the factors listed above. Exposing the rear, the punishers allowed the militia to successfully shut the traps. It should be noted separately that the appearance of the Ilovaisky boiler by the militia is largely due to the Ukrainian military leaders who tried to surround the Donetsk-Gorlovka fortified area, creating a narrow gap between the DPR and the LPR.

Mariupol is of great strategic importance. With his capture, the militia will open the way to the south and, above all, to the Zaporizhia region. In terms of population, it is comparable to Lugansk! At the same time, to defend him, apart from the neo-Nazi battalion of the gay Lyashka and several reserve formations, there was really no one. The assault on Mariupol can last from several days to a week.

Also among the priorities - pushing the Ukrainian Armed Forces from Donetsk and Lugansk to a distance from which they will not be able to bombard the cities with “Gradami”, “Hurricanes” and artillery, although in the near future these settlements are unlikely to protect them. work out. There is a high probability that in the coming days there will be a series of surprises for the punishers in the north of the DPR and the LPR.

30 000 soldiers APU were helpless against 20 000 soldiers of New Russia because of the stupidity of their leadership, the greed of the oligarchs and their own delusions. It is the delusions of warring against Novorossia that give such bloody results. After all, without tens of thousands of soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the conflict would have ended much faster. Neo-Nazi death battalions and the Right Sector are not able to fight without cannon fodder from conscripts and contract soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. They are waiting for a tragic fate.

The fate of Ukraine, unfortunately, is no less tragic. The state is struck by the red-black virus of terror, where an impressive part of the population thinks that it is better to burn dozens or even hundreds of “Colorado” than listen to their opposition opinion. The only way to save people living on its territory is to separate different ideologies by the state border, namely, the border of Novorossia and Ukraine. No wonder Pavel Gubarev expressed confidence that in the near future new people's republics will be declared. New Russia has more chances to be recognized in the world than small DNR and LC. There is a great probability that several years after its appearance, the central regions and Kiev, tired of the promises of the next US puppet to join 2020, 2030, 2040 in the EU, tired of the oligarchs with their battalions dividing the territory based on their resource base, without gas and the economy, without breadwinners from the Southeast, they also decide to hold a referendum and enter a new state.
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  1. Fuse
    Fuse 28 August 2014 11: 10
    +69
    The best tank destroyer of Motorola’s division will give Poroshenko a sweet cock laughing
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 28 August 2014 11: 18
      +36
      Broad popular support for the militia of Novorosia will allow the militia to further develop success. Good luck and victories, brave militia fighters!
      1. evgenii67
        evgenii67 28 August 2014 11: 40
        +28
        Taken from the Vkontakte group "Satire Without Sartir": Remember the old anecdote?

        The ensign takes a wheelbarrow with shit through the checkpoint, the officer asks him:
        -What sleep *** l?
        - Nothing, I'm taking it!
        - You're lying! I will check!
        -Check ...
        He rummaged, rummaged in shit, found nothing ...
        -Okay, go.
        The ensign takes the car out of the gate, drove away, dumped:
        -What you sleep *** l, that sleep *** l ... I sleep a wheelbarrow *** l!

        There is infa about Kamaz trucks, humanitarian aid and the "sudden" offensive of the militias along the entire front. There is no proof, according to one person directly related to that convoy. Believe it or not, everyone's personal business.

        For the offensive, the militia was sorely lacking in fuel. Each Kamaz has two tanks of 300 liters. each. Lugansk is 70 km away. There 150 km back. Fuel consumption by Kamaz, an average of 25 l / 100 km. The tanks were filled to capacity, they spent 40-50 liters. 550 liters left in every Kamaz. Multiply by 280 it turns out 154 liters. diesel fuel!
        Well, there I recounted a little Since a loaded KAMAZ will eat at least 40 liters (take 50 liters per 100 km with a margin), "There back 150" km, we get what is left in the car not 550 liters, but multiply 475 by the number of cars - 280, we get 133000 liters., The subject says "
        it turns out 154 liters. diesel fuel "which is more by 000 liters is relatively small (error 21000%)
        here is food for thought!
        1. rul
          rul 28 August 2014 11: 55
          +14
          in fact, they brought in about a dozen more diesel power stations, and fuel and gas tankers went to them in the convoy, which they allegedly returned later, but even this is not the main thing. the border is not locked ...
        2. Pula
          Pula 28 August 2014 11: 58
          +16
          Nuuuu, stupid ... How can I not recall Zadornov and the joke with a beard ...
          Across the border, a man rides a bike, the Marlboro block on the trunk.
          Border guards pass, customs officers seize the block - contraband ...
          and so a week, another ...
          one border guard doesn’t stand it and asks: You see that you can’t smuggle cigarettes, but you go anyway?
          A man says: but today I have passed the last bike duty-free across the border ...
        3. Mama_Cholli
          Mama_Cholli 28 August 2014 12: 02
          +29
          Why merge such info in social networks? You can add Russian problems with your conclusions ...
          Under Stalin, they would have already received a "ticket to the camp" ...
          1. evgenii67
            evgenii67 28 August 2014 12: 25
            +19
            Quote: Mama_Cholli
            Why merge such info in social networks?

            Liberal group Vkontakte Satire Without Sartir, I just duplicated it with slight adjustments in fuel consumption))) this information is so-so compared to that which Natalia posted on VO in the topic "Psaki ..": “Yes, Russia really helps the militia with shells, cartridges and ammunition. For example, 53-F-864K shells for tulips of about three Kamaz trucks were delivered to the section of the border controlled by the militia, and the same number of 9M22U shells for hail. And since now the entire border is controlled by the militia to the flesh to the sea, it will become much easier to do. This is known by the fact that no one is hiding, one condition, no comments and not to cover it in the media, until it is covered. In addition, shelling of Russian border posts stopped after a couple Once Russia has pinpointed the firing points of the Ukrainian forces. The only thing we are not doing yet is not supplying the actual equipment. And such assistance began to be provided quite recently. Hence the success of the militia in the fight against Kiev. There were no cartridges, there were no people, everything was so pessimistic, and today already those times, 5000 soldiers are coming out in the boiler. By the way, I think it's no secret to anyone that the RF Ministry of Defense has worked to attract personnel "volunteers" for the war on the side of the DPR and LPR. It is naive to assume that 3000 Russian volunteers sprang up on their own, it is clear that no one was forced to fight there, but work was done. Work to organize so many people. "
            And this is not done so secretly, it is simply not covered in the media. And it started relatively recently. The West just needs to understand that since it interferes in the affairs of a neighboring state, we simply cannot sit idly by. "
            it seems like the truth, otherwise in the Donbass there is no one and nothing to fight.
            1. kay4yk
              kay4yk 28 August 2014 12: 40
              +15
              and rightly so: Russia is not fighting against Ukraine and its people. Russia is fighting evil
              1. Semen Semyonitch
                Semen Semyonitch 30 August 2014 18: 55
                +1
                Quote: kay4yk
                and rightly so: Russia is not fighting against Ukraine and its people. Russia is fighting evil


                Two girls are sitting on the roof, one good and the other evil, and they spit on passers-by. The evil one hit three times, and the good-seven .... And because good always conquers evil. laughing .
            2. Mama_Cholli
              Mama_Cholli 28 August 2014 12: 52
              +7
              Quote: evgenii67
              Quote: Mama_Cholli
              Why merge such info in social networks?

              The liberal group Vkontakte Satire Without Sartir, I just duplicated with slight corrections in fuel consumption)))
              It is just necessary that the West understands that since it interferes in the affairs of a neighboring state, we simply cannot sit idly by. "[/ B] seems to be true, otherwise in Donbass there is no one and nothing to fight with.

              Ok ... Accepted. They can’t hold our tongues. smile
              pisi: I remain an adherent of "surprises" for the West.
              1. Scoun
                Scoun 28 August 2014 14: 04
                +5
                Quote: Mama_Cholli
                Ok ... Accepted. They can’t hold our tongues.
                pisi: I remain an adherent of "surprises" for the West.

                Looks like the time has come. I wrote just yesterday.
                Scoun SU Yesterday, 19:05 | DNR: the border with Russia is taken under full control
                Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
                For the first time in the photo, militias with covered faces in the same equipment. Conclusions you draw.
                Personally, I always tried not to talk too much, so to speak, but I was always sure that there were specialists
                nevertheless, we remember the legendary Nona (who defended Slavyansk), which laid shells just like a hole (this is where such specialists came from in Ukraine, given that they successfully rotted their army, and remember recent shots that were shot like a jewelery block post in two cameras .. .
                Let us recall how the Ukrainian aviation landed, but what a masterly possession of MANPADS were Ukrainian former soldiers.
                In general, I'm just sure that a small number of specialists were there, and now the militias themselves have learned to fight under their leadership. Half a year of "training" has passed .. now only forward.

                And as ordered on the news channels went an interview with Zakharchenko who said that "volunteers", including personnel on "vacations, helped.
                PS
                I think that it could not be otherwise, our people live there, whom the Austro-Hungarian spitting out wanted to destroy.
              2. Semen Semyonitch
                Semen Semyonitch 30 August 2014 18: 57
                +1
                Quote: Mama_Cholli
                Ok ... Accepted. They can’t hold our tongues.
                pisi: I remain an adherent of "surprises" for the West.


                Moreover, Western intelligence agencies take all their intelligence from social networks laughing
            3. Valestine
              Valestine 30 August 2014 10: 59
              +2
              It is unfortunate that such things are discussed on social media. The "correspondents" have too long language. It is unhealthy.
          2. siberalt
            siberalt 28 August 2014 13: 02
            +10
            Do not touch Stalin! It all started when his crest Khrushchev began to merge.
            1. smern1974
              smern1974 31 August 2014 01: 11
              0
              Comrade Stalin NKVD GEPU ?? are you all hawk?
          3. Cynic
            Cynic 28 August 2014 20: 06
            0
            Quote: Mama_Cholli
            Why merge such info in social networks?

            So this is a very old gesheft on the Polish border!
            Also the discovery of America, even if someone closed!
            bully
        4. FACKtoREAL
          FACKtoREAL 28 August 2014 12: 16
          +8
          and WHY to merge from KamAZ when there were several fuel trucks in the convoy? wink
          fuel for mobile power plants was transported ...
        5. Salamander
          Salamander 28 August 2014 12: 38
          +6
          Tank Novorossia went to crush ukurokurskoy abomination! (clickable)
        6. supply manager
          supply manager 28 August 2014 12: 47
          +6
          I do not want to polemicize, just for clarity: there are no such KamZs with a consumption of 25/100, it simply does not exist in nature. Yes, even on strange roads, and even loaded. In the best case, 35/100, and then the injection pump should be perfectly rehearsed.
          1. evgenii67
            evgenii67 28 August 2014 12: 49
            +2
            Quote: supply manager
            I don’t want to polemicize, just for clarity: there are no such KamZs with a flow rate of 25/100,

            you read to the end my comment, there is an amendment
            Quote: evgenii67
            Well, there I counted a little. Since a loaded KAMAZ will eat at least 40 liters (take 50 liters per 100 km with a margin), "There back 150" km, we get what is left in the car not 550 liters, but multiply 475 by the number of cars - 280, we get 133000 liters. , the subject says "
            it turns out 154 liters. diesel fuel "what is more by 000 liters is a relatively small amount (error 21000%), that's food for thought!
            1. supply manager
              supply manager 28 August 2014 12: 56
              +6
              Excuse me, I didn’t finish reading ... from now on I will be more attentive.
        7. Waterfowl
          Waterfowl 28 August 2014 13: 15
          +3
          Quote: evgenii67
          There is infa about Kamaz trucks, humanitarian aid and the "surprise" offensive of the militias along the entire front.

          In the second humanitarian aid in every Kamaz tank there will be GRU special forces for an attack on Kiev! Reliable information - he attached them there himself.))))))))
        8. SVAROGE
          SVAROGE 28 August 2014 13: 32
          0
          If so, then .... ACCOUNTED !!!
        9. fif21
          fif21 30 August 2014 18: 31
          0
          Quote: evgenii67
          here is food for thought!

          What to ponder then? Diesel fuel as diesel fuel, the fillers were still in the column. Coal generators do not work, humanitarian aid however fool
        10. GLUHOI
          GLUHOI 30 August 2014 21: 08
          0
          I immediately told my people about this at work! wink Technique did not go in vain! fellow
        11. acute
          acute 31 August 2014 09: 23
          0
          You ... why did you write this?
        12. The comment was deleted.
      2. Valestine
        Valestine 30 August 2014 11: 12
        +4
        PSAKI: PRO-RUSSIAN TERRORISTS HOLD THE VICTORY BECAUSE RUSSIA SUPPORTS THEM!
        MATTHEW LEE: DOES THE UKRAINIAN ARMY tolerate a defeat because the US and the EU support it?
        1. Gemini
          Gemini 30 August 2014 20: 45
          0
          laughing 100500 Matt is handsome, burning not childishly. Lord, give America at least half a percent of such journalists ...
    2. Hans51
      Hans51 28 August 2014 11: 19
      +65
      Well done boys ! Low bow and respect! God be with you!
      1. WKS
        WKS 28 August 2014 11: 36
        +9
        The Ukrainian military command, apparently, considered taking control of Donetsk and Lugansk as the main likely success. That is why no one was in a hurry to release the soldiers of the Armed Forces, surrounded on the border with Russia. They just threw them ... They threw them to make heroes posthumously ...

        In Ukraine, the ochlocracy (ohlos-crowd) ball now rules, the opinion of the crowd (not the people) determines the policy of a crumbling state, media policy, military policy, foreign policy, etc. etc. It is difficult to imagine Kutuzov or Suvorov before making decisions that take into account and are guided by the opinion of a gathering of Moscow or St. Petersburg citizens. But in Ukraine it is a reality. Gas Harakiri is a prime example. This ATO itself is the same example. So far, the mothers of fighters dying in the civil war have not shouted the maydan throats. The cries of distressed pensioners are also not heard. Warlike politics will change only after these crowds of destitute and lost loved ones shout over the Maydan.
        1. zanoza
          zanoza 28 August 2014 11: 59
          +4
          Quote: wks
          . Warlike politics will change only after these crowds of destitute and lost loved ones shout over the Maydan.

          When they again reach the boiling point, the crowd will again be called to the Maidan, which will allow another grouping within the current government to come to power ... And the people and the crowd will be promised "paradise apples" ...
        2. kay4yk
          kay4yk 28 August 2014 12: 44
          +3
          are you sure someone will shout over the maydanuts? it seems that Ukraine is not ruled by conscience, good and common sense, but His Majesty - the dollar. The same Zapadenka’s mother-wives in protests do not demand the end of hostilities, but that their relatives should be returned home, while there was a certificate that he was at war.
          1. vigor1288
            vigor1288 30 August 2014 16: 47
            0
            For them, loot has always been the dominant factor.
            1. Darkan
              Darkan 30 August 2014 18: 30
              0
              and some even arrived in Russia under the guise of refugees, trying to turn their noses. Here is a case: I live in the Irkutsk region and refugees came here from where I don’t know for sure, here they threw a cry who has the opportunity to help with resettlement, help her wife A colleague has an apartment. Well, she calls and says that I will help. In general, a woman from Ukraine contacts her, a colleague explains to her that there is an apartment. Live only for a communal apartment, pay it to her, and what I will pay for is no money. Well, she tells her that they say that a friend in the store works that will suit you, the seller will work well, and accordingly the income will be, but she doesn’t tell her, I’m an accountant and the seller they say I’m not going to work naturally, after these words the conversation went in a different direction and as a result the hohlushka was sent to hell, and think how to be!!!??? The guys did not come up with everything for garlic according to his wife
      2. sboeff
        sboeff 30 August 2014 15: 43
        0
        ... what the doctor ordered !!! Glory to New Russia !!!!! drinks
    3. insafufa
      insafufa 28 August 2014 11: 28
      +11
      all this catastrophe with retreat and lure would not have been possible without a well-organized plan and thought out in the General Staff well implemented on the spot without operational intelligence information there is nothing to do
      My hi former military specialists of the USSR
      1. Vkill
        Vkill 28 August 2014 12: 49
        +5
        Quote: insafufa
        My former military specialists of the USSR


        Well, why the former? )) IMHO ex does not happen!
    4. Little Muck
      Little Muck 28 August 2014 11: 57
      +5
      Map of the fighting on August 20-28
      1. Fuse
        Fuse 28 August 2014 12: 01
        +5
        UkroSmi report:

        In the Khryaschevaty Lugansk region, a column of the 24th brigade was fired at night.
        This was told by the volunteer Bogdan, who stands at the checkpoint near Khryashchevat, volunteer Andrei Ruban.
        According to the volunteer, he saw the "remnants of the brigade" driving, which was scary to look at.
        The soldiers said that they were not given orders to shoot back, although there was an opportunity.
        Meanwhile, it’s already 2 days since there is no connection with the 30th brigade of Novograd-Volynsk, which for 2 months has been in one of the settlements beyond Happiness in the Luhansk region.

        http://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2014/08/28/7036010/
        1. Jackyun
          Jackyun 28 August 2014 12: 44
          +10
          The soldiers said that they were not given orders to shoot back, although there was an opportunity.

          Pancake! What a baby talk! The battle began, what order were these "fighters" to receive? Or do they have a reaction like Pavlov's dog, only on command? Such is the conditioned reflex.
          And it seems to me that they were simply given, the diapers were messed up, and it’s a shame to admit.
          Not the first time I hear such an excuse. Everyone whined under the nut whines that he was not given an order to shoot.
          1. Mama_Cholli
            Mama_Cholli 28 August 2014 12: 56
            +4
            Quote: Jackyun
            The soldiers said that they were not given orders to shoot back, although there was an opportunity.

            Pancake! What a baby talk! The battle began, what order were these "fighters" to receive? Or do they have a reaction like Pavlov's dog, only on command? Such is the conditioned reflex.
            And it seems to me that they were simply given, the diapers were messed up, and it’s a shame to admit.
            Not the first time I hear such an excuse. Everyone whined under the nut whines that he was not given an order to shoot.

            When everyone is scrambling, orders are not given. And the Ukrainians are amateurs as I watch "wave their fists after the fight" ..
            Let the truselas be washed, you see, they didn’t give an order ....
        2. aleks 62
          aleks 62 28 August 2014 15: 10
          +2
          Meanwhile, it’s already 2 days since there is no connection with the 30th brigade of Novograd-Volynsk, which for 2 months has been in one of the settlements beyond Happiness in the Luhansk region.

          .... There is no brigade ... crying
    5. siberalt
      siberalt 28 August 2014 12: 31
      +7
      Hammers guys! Every day I watch the "war map" on an Internet. Everything seems to converge. Good luck to you! We are with you! good
    6. mirag2
      mirag2 28 August 2014 13: 06
      +8
      A moment for a smile (starring: Lyashko, Julia, Avakov ...
    7. Matroskin 18
      Matroskin 18 31 August 2014 10: 46
      +1
      Why merge such info in social networks? You can add Russian problems with your conclusions ...
      Under Stalin, they would have already received a "ticket to the camp" ...

      Yes, gentlemen, let's not "hand over" our own!
      I live in the Rostov Region myself, my relatives are in Novoshakhtinsk, my friends serve on the border with Ukraine, my colleagues are on a business trip at a temporary refugee accommodation center ... so much information flows that it’s not interesting to watch the news. Believe me, it’s not what is shown on the news that’s happening there ... however, I won’t write about it - it’s impossible, I don’t have the right, I can do any harm!
  2. portoc65
    portoc65 28 August 2014 11: 11
    +27
    Novorosia will end at the borders of the Republic of Pridnestrovie. The guys can no longer be stopped
    1. Момент
      Момент 28 August 2014 11: 16
      +38
      You can’t say better. We recognize Novorossia as part of LDR, DPR, etc. (a large list of regions of Ukraine follows).
      1. Cossack Ermak
        Cossack Ermak 28 August 2014 11: 27
        0
        Quote: Moment
        You can’t say better. We recognize Novorossia as part of LDR, DPR, etc. (a large list of regions of Ukraine follows).

        Only stsu.k.o Nicholas II did not obey the namesake of the first.
        1. ybrcfy27
          ybrcfy27 28 August 2014 11: 54
          +5
          If it were not for the Bolsheviks of Lenin, who, just like in Ukraine, had organized a revolution, Russia would have been among the winners, and these are huge reparations and a patriotic upsurge of the population, the reforms had already begun, and if not for the revolution, who knows how everything turned around, so that s.ts.uko was not Nikolai 2, but it was precisely Lenin's comrades
          1. saag
            saag 28 August 2014 12: 13
            +2
            Quote: ybrcfy27
            If it were not for the Bolsheviks of Lenin, who, just like in Ukraine, had organized a revolution, Russia would have been among the winners, and these are huge reparations and a patriotic upsurge of the population, the reforms had already begun, and if not for the revolution, who knows how everything turned around, so that s.ts.uko was not Nikolai 2, but it was precisely Lenin's comrades


            It seems so to you now, then after the February revolution, in general, the goal of the war was lost, if earlier it was - "for the faith, the king and the fatherland", then the king fell out, and instead of him "the war to a victorious end," unclear, so we did what we did
            1. Irokez
              Irokez 28 August 2014 13: 07
              +9
              Quote: saag
              It seems so to you now, then after the February revolution, in general, the goal of the war was lost, if earlier it was - "for the faith, the king and the fatherland", then the king fell out, and instead of him "the war to a victorious end," unclear, so we did what we did

              If the generals of the 2 column (traitors in fact) had not left Nicholas 5, then everything would have been under the Russian Empire.
              And the Bosphorus and some Asian countries, to say nothing of the Baltic states, Pshek and that.
              He was meanly thrown a knife into the back of Russia (Europe and the USA can do this).
              Trotsky, Sverdlov and Lenin did their job. The authorities managed to intercept Stalin on which all the sins of the revolution and the purges after it were attributed as a consequence, and this was just the struggle between the two groups of Trotsky and Stalin. Therefore, the purges were on both sides from the bottom to the top, removing opponents, and they write to us repressions against the people, the famine and so on. A tough struggle for power, and the fact that the bread was seized in the 30s, is if anyone doesn’t know there was only one currency to buy machines and the like abroad for raising industry, but they didn’t take away genocide by force, but in those Under the conditions of the USSR, they could only survive like that, for they refused to take gold as currency and subtly calculated that there was no bread — there would be a hunger revolution against Stalin and the authorities.
              With great hardships, the USSR survived pursuing a tough policy almost prison, but survived and defeated the 5th column (the enemies of the people in its face) and took Berlin and flew into space.
              Do not spread rot against Stalin. Almost always only bad things were said about him, and as a rule they were silent about the good - this is also the propaganda and politics of the 5th column.
              Everything is bad - it’s Stalin, but the fact that it’s good in spite of or in spite of Stalin, but it can’t be - propaganda began with Khrushchev, and after the perestroika, they didn’t even like Stalin, but Trotsky, as it were, suffered and his poor they killed, Sverdlov was hardly mentioned at all, and Lenin was the leader of the people who gave us freedom.
              Of the great trinity, Sverdlov, Trotsky, Lenin - Lenin was the last, Trotsky public speaker, Sverdlov gray and financial cardinal.
              They were united by one thing - the overthrow of the power of Russia, and then each for himself.
              You will not read this in the textbooks of the USSR, the ideology after all, but the USSR survived the ancestors of this trinity and thanks to the tough subsequent discipline and all the same the spirit of the Russian people (and other nationalities naturally united in the USSR).
              Right now, history is somehow repeating by analogy, and it is necessary to survive and destroy, first of all, the 5th column.
              1. DMB-88
                DMB-88 28 August 2014 14: 49
                +1
                Quote: Irokez
                Lenin - Lenin was the very last, Trotsky speaker in public, Sverdlov gray and financial cardinal.

                Lenin is an ideologist, if you carefully read his works, you can find the answer to almost any question of our time. Stalin embodied Lenin's theory in the practice of building Socialism in a hostile environment. And the ranks of the Party had to be cleaned even harder, then there would be no temporary counter-revolutionary revenge! And the ideas of Socialism live in people at the genetic level, as evidenced by the emergence of New Russia!
                1. Irokez
                  Irokez 28 August 2014 17: 16
                  +1
                  Quote: DMB-88

                  -Lenin is an ideologist, if you carefully read his works, you can find the answer to almost any question of our time.
                  -Stalin embodied the theory of Lenin in the practice of building Socialism in a hostile environment.
                  -And the ideas of Socialism live in people at the genetic level, as evidenced by the emergence of New Russia!

                  -Lenin! Ideologist! Something seems to me his works are someone's collective work released under his name. Now we no longer know who and where. In those days there was a subject in the gymnasiums "Logic" and so on this subject, well, Volodya Ulyanov was very bad, well, he was not friends with logic.
                  -Stalin was in the team of Lenin and opposed Sverdlov and Trotsky. The assassination of Sverdlov (well, the workers beat him at the next performance, he was beaten and died). The otvetka attempt on Lenin. After Lenin's long illness (he was already insane on his head in recent years) and his death, the confrontation continued with Stalin-Trotsky and their teams with each other. Stalin ideologically continued the course of Lenin as opposed to Trotsky, which helped Stalin.
                  -You are talking about what ideas of socialism you are talking about. From all according to their ability - to everyone according to their needs (this is communism with a high self-awareness of the masses), and if from all according to their ability - equally to everyone (this is also not socialism, but level-playing and state exploitation). Developed socialism is non-built communism, i.e. when all the Union republics were purely subsidized and only the RSFSR fully provided for itself and even the rich and supposedly working nurse, Ukraine produced less than the RSFSR (an example of the restructuring of how all the former Soviet Socialist Republics of our USSR live). Socialism is said to have been built in Sweden or Sweden, but it’s somehow in a small country and with other principles. That is, I want to say that Socialism, Capitalism, Dictatorship, Democracy are such extensible and relative concepts in which you can live everywhere and everything depends on the leadership and rulers - how they will arrange their economy. In Libya, under Gaddafi, consider communism was what he paid for (do not hang out).
                  New Russia, I suppose or foresee the arrangement will be something in between the theory of socialism and capitalism, but based on the benefits of the people and the ideology of anti-fascists, the classic natural lifestyle (not European values) and again an experimental model that the whole of Russia can accept in the future (we also must be cleaned). Crimea will also be a little experimental.
                  1. kompotnenado
                    kompotnenado 30 August 2014 17: 11
                    0
                    What nonsense in the head of our people! Lenin, Trotsky, Sverdlov are proteges of world Jewry, which plundered Russia until the 30s. Stalin, concealing himself as an alleged Leninist theory that does not exist in nature, created a powerful empire of the monarchical type. The triune God - Marx Engels Lenin, his steward on Earth - Joseph Vissarionovich, the boyars - members of the Central Committee, the nobility - party nomenclature, serfs - collective farmers. Everything worked like a clock. If Ulyanov had clicked on Lenin, he would not have glued the fins in time, he would have definitely shared the fate of Bronstein, Radomyslsky, Rosenfeld. There would be some other god. It is only a pity that Stalin did not leave an adequate successor.
              2. sokrat7
                sokrat7 28 August 2014 22: 09
                0
                They themselves summed up everything that is written in textbooks and fiction. Rummage through the archives, you will find many interesting things.
              3. aleks700
                aleks700 31 August 2014 10: 32
                0
                If the generals of the 2 column (traitors in fact) had not left Nicholas 5, then everything would have been under the Russian Empire.
                And the Bosphorus and some Asian countries, to say nothing of the Baltic states, Pshek and that.
                He was meanly thrown a knife into the back of Russia (Europe and the USA can do this).

                Nikolai 2 very skillfully, brilliantly caught a knife.
          2. P-38
            P-38 28 August 2014 12: 53
            +1
            If not for the Bolsheviks of Lenin, who, just like in Ukraine, had organized a revolution, Russia would have been among the winners


            First, Nicholas II brought Russia to a pre-revolutionary state, then abdicated, then citizen Kerensky appeared, and only then Lenin and Trotsky. There you go. Therefore, I’m minus one, or you don’t know the story, or distort (I hope the first).
            1. Irokez
              Irokez 28 August 2014 13: 28
              +4
              Quote: P-38
              First, Nicholas II brought Russia to a pre-revolutionary state, then abdicated, then citizen Kerensky appeared

              No not like this.
              Nicholas II did not bring Russia to such a state, but the same 5th column in the person of a part of the officers and intelligentsia came under the influence of the same west with new values ​​and so on. Fashionable Masonic circles, the rising industrial bourgeoisie wanted more freedom for enrichment, and the work of world capital to eliminate the rapidly growing industrial upsurge of Russia. This led to the fact that Nicholas II was forced (actually forced) to renounce because of his pacifism and high spirituality.
              Kerensky is that Moor who, like Gorbachev, cleverly ruined everything and transferred power to the ward of the great trinity.
              1. aleks700
                aleks700 31 August 2014 10: 36
                0
                This led to the fact that Nicholas II was forced (actually forced) to renounce because of his pacifism and high spirituality.
                Is the pacifist in power during the war? That’s the defeat. To hell with such pacifism.
          3. DMB-88
            DMB-88 28 August 2014 13: 00
            -1
            Quote: ybrcfy27
            If it were not for the Bolsheviks of Lenin, who, just like in Ukraine, had organized a revolution, Russia would have been among the winners, and these are huge reparations and a patriotic upsurge of the population, the reforms had already begun, and if not for the revolution, who knows how everything turned around, so that s.ts.uko was not Nikolai 2, but it was precisely Lenin's comrades


            If it weren’t for the Revolution, it’s possible that you would still be illiterate, Russia would not fly into space and would not have a nuclear shield !!!
            1. Irokez
              Irokez 28 August 2014 13: 19
              +2
              Quote: DMB-88
              If it weren’t for the Revolution, it’s possible that you would still be illiterate, Russia would not fly into space and would not have a nuclear shield !!!

              I do not agree with you. The revolution threw Russia 20-30 years ago.
              1. DMB-88
                DMB-88 28 August 2014 13: 40
                +1
                Quote: Irokez
                I do not agree with you. The revolution threw Russia 20-30 years ago.


                The question is very controversial!
                1) The industrialization of the country in the first 20 years of Soviet power led the USSR to the world leaders in industrial production and machine tool construction!
                2) Over 20 years, illiteracy and unemployment have been completely eliminated.
                3) The economic foundation of victory in WWII was laid!
                it is possible to list for a long time, but with the basic tenet that Russia has turned from a dark, illiterate, basto-agrarian, feudal country into a great industrial power in 20 years !!!
                1. Irokez
                  Irokez 28 August 2014 16: 41
                  +3
                  Quote: DMB-88
                  Russia from a dark, illiterate, bastion-agrarian, feudal country in 20 years has turned into a great industrial power, it is impossible to argue !!!

                  You have said many correct words, but this is not the merit of the revolution of 17 years as such.
                  20 years must be divided into 2-3 periods when Trotsky ruled and when, to put it mildly, they left. 20 years is just such a period taken to show merit or development, but in fact it’s worth taking a period from 1930 and above when Trotsky (Leibo Davidovich Bronstein) did not lead. From that moment, the west turned to us and booty and Stalin had to make incredible efforts to cover up or reorient to the USSR, which caused a storm of sanctions and hatred (all the joint projects with the West organized by the Trotskyists (profits from these projects sometimes went up to 90% for the cardon) ( analogy as Putin and sanctions right now).
                  Under Trotsky, mainly gold was exported from churches being closed and other valuables for machine tools and equipment prohibitive in price. And also oil, minerals, timber and other valuable resources just went for free to the west.
                  You still forget how many clever heads and scientists left after the revolution (Odin Sikorsky that stands for raising the US aviation and helicopter industry). The decline was catastrophic.
                  And they probably forgot that back in the time of Khrushchev, the country's GDP was compared with the period of Tsarist Russia and still lagged behind it (Is that a fairy tale or an indicator that they wanted to come close to).
                  In no way do I want to say that you are somewhat incompetent, but I want to say that we don’t know much about our Great Past and even the near, not to mention the distant.
                  Illiteracy was everywhere and in Europe, too, but for some reason they always point to ours, although it wasn’t the same as the Russophobes write. Take a look back at the found birch bark letters so ordinary peasants write there with a normal translation and I don’t remember exactly the 13th-16th centuries.
                  Lapotno-agrarian, I beg you, well, the agrarians could not at that time build a navy who fought in the Japanese and other wars, and some ships that are rather big and even now are not so easy to build, and this is 100 years ago, damn it there were Rousseau-Balt and aviation began in the country then bastard.
                  Lapti and the Trans-Siberian Railway themselves were laid without foreigners (how many BAM we built) and 5 million peasants were overpowered to the east, if desired, and even paid for it.
                  Guys stop spitting on Russia and humiliate it, but you live in it.
                  1. DMB-88
                    DMB-88 28 August 2014 17: 11
                    -1
                    in 1918-1925 - Commissar for Military and Naval Affairs and chairman of the Revolutionary Military Council of the RSFSR, then the USSR. Trotsky In 1927, removed from all posts, sent to exile. In 1929, he was expelled from the USSR. In 1932, deprived of Soviet citizenship.

                    I want to note that the purchases of the RSFSR and the USSR were carried out really for gold, because The Soviet gold ruble at that time was absolutely convertible!

                    About the failed Russo-Japanese War can be remembered (with the exception of the Greatest Heroism of soldiers and sailors), solely as a harbinger of the 1905 Revolution.
                  2. DMB-88
                    DMB-88 28 August 2014 17: 14
                    0
                    In 1856, there were 701 cities in the Russian Empire without Poland and Finland. In 1910 - 775 cities. In 1989 - 2190 cities. During the years of Soviet power, 1300 cities were formed, that is, almost 200% of the pre-revolutionary number; meanwhile, over the same period, approximately 75 years before the revolution, the increase was only 10%. The scale of urbanization was 60% of the total; that is, at the time of the revolution, 20% lived in cities, 80% in the village, and by 1991, 80% in the cities, 20% in the village.

                    This is truly an unprecedented pace of development for the whole world, with insignificant external loans, in the conditions of a constant hostile environment, at the cost of participation in two world wars. The same processes that took place in European countries that went far ahead stretched for many centuries.

                    Indicators 1913goda
                    average life expectancy (years) - 34;
                    the average number of years of adult education (years) - 1,5;
                    cumulative development index - 11;
                    RI / USSR (1990):
                    Indicators for the 1990 code
                    per capita GDP at purchasing power parities of currencies (international dollars of 2001) - 7550;
                    average life expectancy (years) - 69;
                    the average number of years of adult education (years) - 10,1;
                    cumulative development index - 46;
                    The growth of the development index (a generally accepted indicator for assessing “quality of life”) is more than 4 times.

                    This is official data !!!
                    1. Irokez
                      Irokez 28 August 2014 17: 52
                      +2
                      Quote: DMB-88
                      This is official data !!!

                      Yes, I do not argue with official data, although statistics are stubborn and sometimes correct as necessary.
                      But you do not take into account other facts that have occurred over the past 100 years and have tremendous influence.
                      And this:
                      - Science and development which has increased labor productivity at times, or even orders of magnitude.
                      - In the economy, energy carriers came to the fore which changed the further vector of development of industry as a whole
                      - Life expectancy this directly affects the development of medicine in which life expectancy has increased by many years. Moreover, in modern conditions, hard work has almost disappeared, which was common 100 years ago.
                      - The development of science and technology simply forced the construction of science-intensive and industrial cities, while the rural population could provide the rest with less force. Time goes forward and development, too, well, we will not compare aliens with their technologies and our today's world.

                      Well, you can’t compare our economies with a difference of 100 years for various reasons, but to show the merits of tsarist Russia and the testimonies of the 50-60s were still compared when we still caught up with the tsar in the already advanced economics and science of the times of Khrushev.
                  3. sokrat7
                    sokrat7 28 August 2014 22: 18
                    0
                    Do not try to prove something to someone in a discussion. There is your point of view, there is another, including the opposite. For example, for that period of time I have a different point of view from you. After all, if Stalin had not intentionally turned off the NEP, perhaps Russia would have become a developed industrial power and not with such victims before? At the same time, I do not detract from Stalin's merit in the development of the country.
                    1. Irokez
                      Irokez 28 August 2014 23: 47
                      0
                      Quote: sokrat7
                      After all, if Stalin had not intentionally turned off the NEP, perhaps Russia would have become a developed industrial power and not with such victims before?

                      I agree with everyone their opinion. And there are a lot of them. Here’s another look, take a lazy time of 25 minutes.
                      Yes, yes, this is also just one of the opinions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a84MXKsTDs
                      [img] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a84MXKsTDs [/ img]
                  4. aleks700
                    aleks700 31 August 2014 10: 40
                    0
                    apotno-agrarian, I beg you, well, the agrarians could not at that time build a navy who fought in the Japanese and other wars, and some ships, well, rather big ones, which are not so easy to build right now
                    And read where this fleet was built. I’ll share it so they don’t look. America, France, England.
          4. Cynic
            Cynic 30 August 2014 18: 51
            0
            Quote: ybrcfy27
            If not for the Bolsheviks of Lenin

            Yeah, maybe we can start ab-ovo?
            C gold Mikado _ revolution of 1905?
            Or Kaiser's gold stamps and pounds of nuggets Saxons _ revolution of 1917?
            The revolutionaries are simple people, they will take money for the revolution from the devil on the security of their soul!
            They want the best for everyone!
            And nothing that will flood the whole country with blood _ The end justifies the means!
            And with these sponsors of the revolution, it's still easier. Mikado and Kaiser invested yen / stamps in the victory, and it was better for the arrogant Saxons to destroy Russia than to pay off on promises.
            And oh, how much was promised!
            hi
      2. aleksfill
        aleksfill 28 August 2014 11: 38
        +15
        "The limits of Russia at the tips of the bayonets of Russian soldiers"
        Generalissimus A.V. Suvorov.
    2. Prometheus
      Prometheus 28 August 2014 11: 30
      +1
      At the western border)
    3. FACKtoREAL
      FACKtoREAL 28 August 2014 12: 19
      +1
      maybe Romania ... lol
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 28 August 2014 12: 32
      +1
      Spit and knock a tree! Who would mind.
    5. Vladimir Petrov
      Vladimir Petrov 30 August 2014 15: 32
      0
      And they should not stop. They will not create a republic of NOVOROSSIA, tomorrow the USA and the EU will put together a new Ukrainian army, arm them, and force Poroshenko to return Crimea to Ukraine. And the war will be very harsh. It would be better today to free the regions of the southeast from Bandera and nationalists, and to avoid a bloody war in the future.
    6. cat hippopotamus
      cat hippopotamus 31 August 2014 09: 22
      0
      Yes, and Transnistria must be attached under any conditions, there are also Russians
  3. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 28 August 2014 11: 11
    +9
    Well done militia Novorossia to Kiev to drive the Nazis
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    2. Nick
      Nick 28 August 2014 12: 14
      +5
      Quote: VICTOR-61
      Well done militia Novorossia to Kiev to drive the Nazis

      And better to Transcarpathia ...
      1. Valestine
        Valestine 30 August 2014 11: 19
        0
        Oh, not that! My long-time old grandfather took part in the Brusilovsky breakthrough and made very unpleasant impressions of Galicia even then.
  4. Magic archer
    Magic archer 28 August 2014 11: 13
    +7
    And in the leadership of New Russia real strategists !!! Bravo !!! hi
    1. djtyysq
      djtyysq 28 August 2014 11: 53
      +2
      Quote: Magic Archer
      And in the leadership of New Russia real strategists !!! Bravo !!! hi



      They "academies" are held in the trenches, not at the desk, and this is the best academy!
    2. start thinking
      start thinking 28 August 2014 12: 00
      +4
      I would like to know (reliably) about the fate of the person who stood at the origins of these victories - Strelkova. I would like to remember this man !!!!
      1. DMB-88
        DMB-88 28 August 2014 13: 03
        +1
        Igor Ivanovich is now coordinating the actions of the DNI and LNR Armies, as well as many partisan formations in the Donbas!
      2. Valestine
        Valestine 30 August 2014 11: 33
        0
        And best of all, if he led the revived New Russia!
  5. mig31
    mig31 28 August 2014 11: 13
    +14
    Rather, this massacre would end and Novorossia would find what it was fighting for. With God...
  6. Comrade Bender
    Comrade Bender 28 August 2014 11: 14
    +6
    It's just shameful for the kaklov to lose the war to the militia. But it’s not a shame to lose to a strong army of the Russian Federation.
  7. Rigla
    Rigla 28 August 2014 11: 14
    +13
    Spit on everything! Death to the Punishers! The main thing now is not to negotiate! After the death of 10000 punitive in the boilers, the junta will be more accommodating and finally settled in its zapadenschine.
    1. DMB-88
      DMB-88 28 August 2014 13: 06
      0
      Quote: Rigla
      After the death of 10000 punitive in the boilers, the junta will be more accommodating and finally settled in its zapadenschine.


      For the junta, death means absolutely nothing! The war will continue until the entire suburbs themselves turn their bayonets against the junta!
  8. Name
    Name 28 August 2014 11: 15
    +6
    Now, any success of the militias in the opinion of the Ukrainian authorities is exclusively the merit of the Russian army.- The success of the army of Novorossia is the heroism of its soldiers, among which there are many in the \ servicemen who studied at schools of the USSR. soldier
  9. Russian jacket
    Russian jacket 28 August 2014 11: 15
    +9
    It is a pity that the great Ukrainians of folk wisdom do not remember. I remember. Not all cats are Pancake week, there will be a great post hi
    1. PalSanych
      PalSanych 28 August 2014 11: 20
      +6
      Yeah!!! not everything is cottage cheese to the cat;
    2. arkady149
      arkady149 28 August 2014 11: 38
      +3
      Quote: Russian quilted jacket
      Not all cats are Pancake week, there will be a great post

      And for lyashkov - this option: "Not all lyashka with butter, will be without petroleum jelly."
    3. Old Cynic
      Old Cynic 28 August 2014 11: 44
      +1
      Popular wisdom can be only one, Dear.
      Unfortunately, Galicians remember tilki the qiu axis: "If I don't, I'll bite" ...
    4. Name
      Name 28 August 2014 11: 47
      +13
      Quote: Russian quilted jacket
      It is a pity that the great Ukrainians of folk wisdom do not remember.

      Suppose I was born in the USSR, but the words below are correct:
      1. sboeff
        sboeff 30 August 2014 15: 46
        0
        Gold words!!!!!
  10. Signaller
    Signaller 28 August 2014 11: 17
    +5
    Suvorov's words "To win not by numbers, but by skill" refer entirely to the soldiers of Novorossiya. Keep it up.
    1. Pula
      Pula 28 August 2014 12: 17
      +2
      The film "Suvorov" - Suvorov walks along the line - Glory to Izmail! Glory to Warsaw! Glory to Poltava!
      And in the First World ...
  11. Siberian
    Siberian 28 August 2014 11: 18
    +6
    Yes, we agree - New Russia, Little Russia, Russia - it is all Russian. Finally, they understood.
  12. MolGro
    MolGro 28 August 2014 11: 19
    +28

    One people is one greatness!
  13. abc_02
    abc_02 28 August 2014 11: 20
    +25
    Source in the DPR army: Colonel of military intelligence of Ukraine liquidated near Mariupol

    In the battle near Mariupol, Colonel of the Main Intelligence Directorate (GUR) of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine Vyacheslav Galva with the call sign "Kuzmich" was destroyed.

    “Not an easy fruit. Hereditary military, ”the report said.

    Galva, as part of the exchange of experience between the intelligence structures of Ukraine and the United States, underwent special training programs at Counter-Terrorism Training Groups, International Training Inc. and the US FBI. At the Commando Center in France (autonomous actions behind enemy lines), Kuzmich has the status the commander of the demining group of the 2nd level.

    V. Galva - paramedic instructor, took a special course of snipers in urban conditions in the UK, was part of the contingent in Sierra Leone, etc.

    Very good collectors are needed to collect "fruit" data! wink
    1. portoc65
      portoc65 28 August 2014 11: 27
      0
      I heard that Semyon Semenchinko committed suicide .. is this a fake? Who knows what.
      1. Bombardier
        Bombardier 28 August 2014 11: 30
        +3
        He may have "left" us, but he may return under a new name. Until the little body is shown I will not believe it.
        1. andj61
          andj61 28 August 2014 11: 37
          +5
          Quote: Bombardier
          He may have "left" us, but he may return under a new name. Until the little body is shown I will not believe it.

          So Semenchenko without a balaclava did not appear anywhere. Now he will declare himself dead, remove the balaclava - and already a peaceful Ukrainian.
          1. Bombardier
            Bombardier 28 August 2014 11: 39
            +1
            Somewhere, on the branches laid out his photo. If you ask the people, everything will be found.
          2. djtyysq
            djtyysq 28 August 2014 12: 04
            +2
            So Semenchenko without a balaclava did not appear anywhere. Now he declares himself dead, removes the balaclava - and is already a peaceful Ukrainian. [/ Quote]


            A person may not have a soul. But there is always a face, and you cannot hide it behind any mask!
      2. Eugenenl
        Eugenenl 28 August 2014 13: 03
        +1
        Committed suicide? And what did he take for himself a new name? Lena? Galya? laughing
    2. abc_02
      abc_02 28 August 2014 11: 34
      +6
      U.S. Army major buried who graduated from West Point and was killed near Ilovaisk

      The funeral of Mark Poslawski, a major in the US Army and a U.S. citizen who belonged to the elite of the U.S. armed forces and graduated from West Point Military Academy, took place.

      Ukrainian media report that Poslawski allegedly renounced American citizenship and served in the rank of private soldier in the Donbass battalion.

      According to other sources, the necessary formalities required by Ukrainian law were not followed. The US Army major was buried with all military honors in the presence of senior officials of the Ukrainian security forces.
      1. sboeff
        sboeff 30 August 2014 15: 45
        +1
        Dog dog death !!! soldier
    3. DMB-88
      DMB-88 28 August 2014 13: 08
      0
      Quote: abc_02
      Very good collectors are needed to collect "fruit" data!


      Such people are called scavengers !!! wink
    4. Valestine
      Valestine 30 August 2014 11: 48
      0
      This is news so news! In general, it is a pity that they did not take him alive. The mental route to betraying the interests of one's own country is very interesting. What was at the heart of the "fateful" choice of the "hereditary military man"?
  14. sever.56
    sever.56 28 August 2014 11: 21
    +4
    "The whole song, the whole song, the song is over ...!" The spring of the offensive unclenched. Now, against the backdrop of the defeat of the ukroarmii, they should expect very unpleasant surprises in the neighboring areas. I am sure that our work in this direction is going on.
  15. RUSOIVAN
    RUSOIVAN 28 August 2014 11: 26
    +2
    yes what fight? call a spade a spade: give pi ...!
  16. Sasha75
    Sasha75 28 August 2014 11: 27
    +6
    Russians - Give Crimea
    Ukrainians - you have already taken the Crimea
    Russian - Give Crimea
    Ukrainians- ……………
    Russian - give Crimea to Kiev))))))))))))))).
  17. Nychego
    Nychego 28 August 2014 11: 28
    +10
    Dear Novorossians, please eliminate the rings: seven rings on the map - where does it fit? Especially bad three to the west, southwest and south of Lugansk. It is clear that dumb people are often commanded by dumb people, BUT a few sensible officers and a couple of battle-worthy battalions are enough to force you to stop the attack and again throw troops under Lugansk.

    Battle success to you!
  18. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 August 2014 11: 29
    +4
    Yes, a corridor to Transnistria suggests itself. The entire South-East is the outskirts in half! Leave Kiev in general to dill, everything has rotted in the bud. But will Novorossiya interfere when the Hungarians, Poles and Romanians begin to "tear" the remnants of the outskirts? Will it be necessary to tell them "Cyt!", Or let them deal with Bandera themselves? IMHO, do not give them anything. Let the remnants of Ukraine ask for protection from Novorossiya!
    Its territorial integrity.
  19. Yellow white
    Yellow white 28 August 2014 11: 29
    +10
    We are waiting for national performances in Kharkov, Zaporizhia, Nikolaev, Odessa, Dnepropetrovsk, we are really looking forward to ....
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 28 August 2014 13: 12
      0
      Who will rebel, "I apologize to ask"? There are more likely against us "invaders" ...
  20. saag
    saag 28 August 2014 11: 29
    +11
    God forbid such a misfortune begins in Zaporozhye, with someone it will be fired from the city of nuclear power plants in this case
    1. portoc65
      portoc65 28 August 2014 11: 59
      +11
      What is the minus? I agree ... he was born in Zaporozhye .. God forbid such a scenario .. from dill everything can be expected
      1. DMB-88
        DMB-88 28 August 2014 13: 26
        0
        Quote: portoc65
        What is the minus? I agree ... he was born in Zaporozhye .. God forbid such a scenario .. from dill everything can be expected


        Yes, this terrible scenario can be considered, because. All the same, the junta leaders do not live in Ukraine, they will go there where it is warmer and more satisfying, there to their masters! And the tragedy will be written off to the Army of New Russia !!! Here, certainly, one cannot do without Russian special forces, to protect nuclear facilities means to prevent a global nuclear catastrophe !!!
        1. maxxdesign
          maxxdesign 28 August 2014 14: 14
          0
          the radioactive cloud will reach everywhere ... where can they hide? only to another world
    2. djtyysq
      djtyysq 28 August 2014 12: 08
      +5
      Quote: saag
      God forbid such a misfortune begins in Zaporozhye, with someone it will be fired from the city of nuclear power plants in this case


      Coment of a thinking person! +++
    3. izGOI
      izGOI 30 August 2014 19: 50
      0
      And there is also Rivne, Khmelnytsky, South-Ukrainian, and from the Chernobyl, too, you can "catch". I already wrote that all this should be taken under international protection. Not even some "blue helmets", but the best special forces from the best countries of the world.
  21. iConst
    iConst 28 August 2014 11: 30
    +3
    The appearance of several new boilers at once, where 9000 soldiers were surrounded
    I remember it was 5000, then 7000, now 9000. I no longer like this tendency - it starts to smell like dill with dill ...
    1. Homo
      Homo 28 August 2014 11: 45
      +6
      Quote: iConst
      I remember it was 5000, then 7000, now 9000. I no longer like this tendency - it starts to smell like dill with dill ...

      And you carefully read all the messages and everything will fall into place. Not everyone encompassed the environment en masse, but in parts of August 24, 25, 26, 27, 28. Information is updated every day.
    2. semmish
      semmish 28 August 2014 13: 42
      0
      I agree. And someone gave a day to lay down arms and surrender. So what...? Silence for now. Nobody destroys anyone. Or, again, bluffing like Russia with the introduction of troops?
  22. cap54
    cap54 28 August 2014 11: 30
    +2
    Ukrainian troops failed to make a very tight
    narrowing of the point ...
  23. Loner_53
    Loner_53 28 August 2014 11: 33
    +1
    Warriors of New Russia Russian Warriors and the Russian Warrior, as you know, we won’t win! hiAND THANK GOD!
  24. Stinger
    Stinger 28 August 2014 11: 34
    +1
    The motto of dill is simple: What to advance - to run, what to retreat - to run.
  25. MolGro
    MolGro 28 August 2014 11: 34
    +13

    Glory to Novorosiya !!!
    1. kay4yk
      kay4yk 28 August 2014 12: 55
      +1
      blood, blood, blood ... HORROR is Ukraine. Who are they for us now?
  26. Tourist
    Tourist 28 August 2014 11: 35
    +1
    There is a huge chance that a few years later after its appearance, the central regions and Kiev, tired of the promises of another US puppet to join the EU in 2020, 2030, and 2040, were tired of oligarchs with their battalions dividing the territory based on their resource base, without gas and economy, without breadwinners with Southeast, also decide to hold a referendum and enter a new state.
    Where did the author get such pessemism from? IMHO, but everything will be decided if not for the New Year, so for Christmas
  27. Bombardier
    Bombardier 28 August 2014 11: 36
    +3
    The flag of New Russia is beautiful (photo in the article)! I like.
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  29. shelva
    shelva 28 August 2014 11: 38
    +1
    Dill learned double standards and irresponsible nonsense from their curators - Americans.
    From the day of the establishment of the DPR and LPR, the state without borders was ephemeral about the need to create borders.
  30. gfhjkm
    gfhjkm 28 August 2014 11: 39
    +9
    Now we need to blow up the bridges across the Don, so that reinforcements to dill could not so easily pull up. yes
    1. Pula
      Pula 28 August 2014 12: 39
      +2
      What dill, if they went ... some to the west, some to the heavenly hundred ...
      And the picture ... and the first one ended ... Xia.
      RazEtakim Heroes veeeeechnaya slaaavvaaaaa .... posthumously! drinks
    2. Naval
      Naval 28 August 2014 15: 00
      +1
      Why blow up bridges across the Don, is it the Russian river?
  31. Rigla
    Rigla 28 August 2014 11: 39
    +2
    Friends! Throw a link to the review of the war map TODAY in PM.
  32. O. Bender
    O. Bender 28 August 2014 11: 41
    +1
    We would simulate the population of the occupied cities to simulate the APU and the nat.Gadov. But I could only get into a compact group. And with hail and tornado there. Dreams ......
  33. el.krokodil
    el.krokodil 28 August 2014 11: 46
    +6
    Quote: abc_02
    Source in the DPR army: Colonel of military intelligence of Ukraine liquidated near Mariupol

    In the battle near Mariupol, Colonel of the Main Intelligence Directorate (GUR) of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine Vyacheslav Galva with the call sign "Kuzmich" was destroyed.

    “Not an easy fruit. Hereditary military, ”the report said.

    Galva, as part of the exchange of experience between the intelligence structures of Ukraine and the United States, underwent special training programs at Counter-Terrorism Training Groups, International Training Inc. and the US FBI. At the Commando Center in France (autonomous actions behind enemy lines), Kuzmich has the status the commander of the demining group of the 2nd level.

    V. Galva - paramedic instructor, took a special course of snipers in urban conditions in the UK, was part of the contingent in Sierra Leone, etc.

    Very good collectors are needed to collect "fruit" data! wink

    in our second one sniper said: -the mass of the body does not affect the speed of the bullet .. no matter how much the dead man have regalia and special courses, he is mortal like everyone else .. RIP hi
  34. BOB044
    BOB044 28 August 2014 11: 52
    +1
    Pants crack on Poroshenko’s ass, now a militia will come in and it will hurt.
  35. el.krokodil
    el.krokodil 28 August 2014 11: 53
    0
    Quote: portoc65
    I heard that Semyon Semenchinko committed suicide .. is this a fake? Who knows what.
    ..where I heard? .. maybe a fake .. but according to the dill tradition, he had to shoot himself twice or hang himself as many times .. what I wish him .. bully
    1. portoc65
      portoc65 28 August 2014 12: 03
      0
      A line went along the dill TV channel that one of them does not believe that Semenych shot himself ...
    2. portoc65
      portoc65 28 August 2014 12: 03
      +1
      A line went along the dill TV channel that one of them does not believe that Semenych shot himself ...
  36. 2224460
    2224460 28 August 2014 11: 53
    +1
    Neo-Nazi regime received a stunning gift for Independence Day from the army of New Russia
  37. delorian
    delorian 28 August 2014 11: 53
    +1
    further will be even more interesting
  38. Alfizik
    Alfizik 28 August 2014 11: 59
    +1
    Yes, the fate of Ukraine is tragic. But who caused this tragedy? The answer is obvious: the Orange-Bandera forces of Darkness. And the situation is aggravated by "silent people" and zombies. Do they really want the same future for their children? But it will be so! Perhaps, finally, to break away from his "great ukrovskoy holiness", to undertake and write a "letter to the Turkish sultan" - the many-sided naughty Yankees?
  39. Azovian
    Azovian 28 August 2014 11: 59
    +1
    When they left Slavyanak, they hardly thought of a counteroffensive in the south. the author is a psychic.
  40. Prometey
    Prometey 28 August 2014 12: 06
    +5
    Still, you shouldn't indulge in bravado. The presence of encirclement rings does not mean their elimination yet. And it is not yet known for sure that dill will not be able to pull up reinforcements and not gain new meat. Yes, new brothers and allies in the person of the Western allies can toss a pod in the form of drones, turntables and tanks. At the same time, the Dill Censor really believe that if NATO had planted a couple of hundred Abrams and Leopards for them, their ATO would have ended long ago in Rostov or Belgorod. Although, of course, the Svidomo do not have enough brains to even think about who will control such toys, which will take at least half a year to master.
  41. Signature
    Signature 28 August 2014 12: 09
    0
    evgenii67 ↑
    Taken from the Vkontakte group "Satire Without Sartir":
    The ensign takes out a wheelbarrow ...



    It looks like the secret is burning my pocket to my skin. Would have waited 30-50 years (this is me about "Satire Without ..."). The most successful ones always keep quiet.
  42. sergant6776
    sergant6776 28 August 2014 12: 26
    +2
    Quote: evgenii67
    Taken from the Vkontakte group "Satire Without Sartir": Remember the old anecdote?

    The ensign takes a wheelbarrow with shit through the checkpoint, the officer asks him:
    -What sleep *** l?
    - Nothing, I'm taking it!
    - You're lying! I will check!
    -Check ...
    He rummaged, rummaged in shit, found nothing ...
    -Okay, go.
    The ensign takes the car out of the gate, drove away, dumped:
    -What you sleep *** l, that sleep *** l ... I sleep a wheelbarrow *** l!

    There is infa about Kamaz trucks, humanitarian aid and the "sudden" offensive of the militias along the entire front. There is no proof, according to one person directly related to that convoy. Believe it or not, everyone's personal business.

    For the offensive, the militia was sorely lacking in fuel. Each Kamaz has two tanks of 300 liters. each. Lugansk is 70 km away. There 150 km back. Fuel consumption by Kamaz, an average of 25 l / 100 km. The tanks were filled to capacity, they spent 40-50 liters. 550 liters left in every Kamaz. Multiply by 280 it turns out 154 liters. diesel fuel!
    Well, there I recounted a little Since a loaded KAMAZ will eat at least 40 liters (take 50 liters per 100 km with a margin), "There back 150" km, we get what is left in the car not 550 liters, but multiply 475 by the number of cars - 280, we get 133000 liters., The subject says "
    it turns out 154 liters. diesel fuel "which is more by 000 liters is relatively small (error 21000%)
    here is food for thought!



    Your surname is not accidentally Perelman?))) Then how much equipment do you need to provide a solarium, that all the fighting on the front from Donets to Mariupol .. I’m waiting for an answer.
  43. Pula
    Pula 28 August 2014 12: 33
    +4
    I read komenty and it becomes scary. Everyone wants blood. And it doesn’t matter anymore that human life is being selected, and ambitions at the expense of others are going wild.
    It's hard to stop the locomotive, but ... and you can stop it, but at what cost.
    "... we won't stand the price ..." - I understand the Novorossiys, but even they treat prisoners of war.
    The rest may be worth channeling energy to understanding your vision of the situation, and not to bloodthirsty calls and dirt.
    1. badger1974
      badger1974 31 August 2014 11: 15
      0
      and you don’t read it, because your family didn’t tear the shell in your own apartment, and you didn’t crush your acquaintances in the basement with a Natsik grenade in the basement, and you didn’t burn the pregnant women’s gasoline in the houses, well and much more
      your comment is somehow inappropriate here, it must be done on your own skin, and so to appeal to the general humanism - "not that coat" as they say in Donbass
  44. vostok1982
    vostok1982 28 August 2014 12: 45
    +2
    This is my homeland, be glorified New Russia!
  45. KBR109
    KBR109 28 August 2014 13: 03
    +2
    They "academies" take place in the trenches, not at the desk, and this is the best academy! [/ Quote]
    This is the worst academy. Because there you have to pay with buckets of your blood for every day. Every tenth person will receive "education" there at best. You have completely lost the coast ... It's just that there is no other way.
  46. Victor1
    Victor1 28 August 2014 13: 03
    -4
    I do not like the flag of New Russia, not only is it done in the Anglo-Saxon manner, but also red crossed out with blue.
    1. Rebus
      Rebus 28 August 2014 13: 29
      +5
      Quote: Victor1
      I do not like the flag of New Russia, not only is it done in the Anglo-Saxon manner, but also red crossed out with blue.

      It is made in the manner of guis and the serf flag of Russia
      Fortress flag arr 1913:

      Guys and the fortress flag of the USSR Navy 1924-1932:

      Guys and the fortress flag of the Russian Navy since 2001:

      Flag of New Russia:


      So, there is nothing Anglo-Saxon.
      1. Victor1
        Victor1 28 August 2014 17: 50
        0
        But only in those days, the Anglo-Saxons had an influence on political structures, just as the imperial flag was too Germanophilic, well, the new Tsar was smart enough to return Russian. Fashion for everything western is a very bad habit. For example, the flag of the confederation is almost an exact copy of the flag of New Russia.
        1. badger1974
          badger1974 31 August 2014 11: 43
          0
          you never know what is somewhat similar, the tea and the Vietcong also have red flags, but the number of stars and the location are different, so the Confederates have white stars, and if you dig into history, then everything is different here, Novorosskaya "fig" (aka jack, it is also the 3rd additional) exclusively for a military banner, Anglo-Saxon - political and economic there is also the Navy and combat - differ in color of the diagonal with stars
  47. kotev19
    kotev19 28 August 2014 13: 05
    +2
    For New Russia!
    1. izGOI
      izGOI 30 August 2014 20: 06
      0
      Definitely not sure, and really afraid to make a mistake. But .. I read somewhere that this picture was taken in the Donbass. Something in the depths of memory was postponed.
  48. Rigla
    Rigla 28 August 2014 13: 15
    +2
    Quote: Pule
    I read komenty and it becomes scary. Everyone wants blood. And it doesn’t matter anymore that human life is being selected, and ambitions at the expense of others are going wild.
    It's hard to stop the locomotive, but ... and you can stop it, but at what cost.
    "... we won't stand the price ..." - I understand the Novorossiys, but even they treat prisoners of war.
    The rest may be worth channeling energy to understanding your vision of the situation, and not to bloodthirsty calls and dirt.

    You tovarisch probably do not understand that the war on the extermination of the inhabitants of New Russia has been declared just by the U.K.r.r.m.i! And New Russia is only defending itself! On whose mill do you pour water ???
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 28 August 2014 13: 56
      0
      At first there were "onizhedeti". Then it turned out that they were never children. Now it turns out that they are "people". And we must deal with them humanly.
      No. Fascists are subject to destruction. Are our ancestors shed a little blood to understand this?
  49. navara399
    navara399 28 August 2014 13: 41
    0
    Given the successes of the Armed Forces of Novorossia and the panic in the camp of the enemy, something is not heard about the support from the residents of Kharkov, Mariupol, Odessa. A knife in the back of the defending Ukrainians would not hurt us. Apparently it worked well for the Ukrogestapo or are afraid of Donetsk, Lugansk or Slavic destruction.
    1. Valestine
      Valestine 30 August 2014 12: 06
      0
      Yes, the Gestapo worked very well, it was not in vain that they studied in the Polish-Lithuanian "nurseries of democracy". All forest plantations around Kharkov and Dnepropetrovsk are littered with the corpses of supporters of federalization. These are those whom they did not manage to quietly burn in crematoria. In large cities, there are "battalions of death" (American experience gained from coups in Latin America), funded by Kolomoisky. The only form of resistance is deep underground and targeted sabotage. As for Odessa, as a native Odessa woman living in Moscow said: “But Odessa no longer exists ...” Odessa is generally a “specific” city, where purely mercantile priorities have always dominated. Remember, In "Golden Calf" the dream of a herd of former brokers and clerks about Odessa, as about Porto Franco? So now brokers and salesmen are in power there.
    2. izGOI
      izGOI 30 August 2014 20: 12
      0
      Quote: navara399
      Apparently she worked well for ukrogestapo or are afraid of Donetsk, Lugansk or Slavic destruction.

      The second is very likely. I talked with a friend from Kramatorsk. It is not said directly, but such a mood is felt.
  50. Barakuda
    Barakuda 28 August 2014 13: 49
    0
    A lot of Kadyrovites with equipment appeared. Dotryndelya Ukraine. Has Putin given permission?
    1. demand1
      demand1 28 August 2014 16: 51
      +4
      Putin did not give permission, we have a free country. And we make decisions ourselves
    2. Cynic
      Cynic 28 August 2014 20: 19
      0
      Quote: Barracuda
      A lot of Kadyrovites with equipment appeared. Dotryndelya Ukraine. Has Putin given permission?

      If for a very long time the Kadyrovtsy and the Kadyrovtsy shout, then why wonder?
      They came to scream!
      They are polite people _ They were called, they came!