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Soldiers of the same front!

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Soldiers of the same front!


I was inspired to write this article by three factors.

1. Article Let's talk? Vladimir Lytkina (major071).
2. Conclusions and comments on this article.
3. Comments to many recent articles and news Forum "VO" and the message that Ukraine is ready to make a deposit for Savchenko.

It may seem that these are two different articles in two different planes. In my opinion, almost one battlefield.

And this battle, informational, based on the article by the respected Vladimir Lytkin (and not only) is already underway. And not somewhere in the backyard of the great Ineta, but here, on our website, you don’t have to go far ... You can only look at the number of newly appeared "fighters" and especially the date of their registration, and their forum signs of distinction.

“Glory to Russia (Ukraine),” cried these fighters for Russia and Novorossia, zealously seated at their keyboards, actively and tons of comments filled with “patriotic” slogans, “revealing” secret and obvious enemies of Russia, stigmatizing and minus comments of sensible members of the forum, who are lost in the stream of angry "Kill, urine, scum, death to the fascists, not a step back" (but do not support this stream of "malicious patriotically" grin), branding them (with these secret minuses) in non-patriotism explicitly verbal and carrying the flag of "true truth" in masses Koruzlykh from this "non-patriotism" of the citizens of the forum and Russia as a whole.

Information warfare is primarily determined by the activity on the resource.
If the resource is weak, there will be no "fighters". If the resource is strong (and the VO website can be clearly defined as a powerful resource), then here they are, the “fighters” of that side ... Here is the fifth column that everyone is trying to see in the upper echelons of power.

Yes, she is there too, but there are leaders of the "army", but where are the ordinary fighters?

If we know Kurginyan, we know his essence of time, do we know these fighters by sight? Not.

They walk hundreds on the march in columns around Moscow in support of Russia and Novorossia, and then sit down at the keyboard and start an invisible “war”, but from a different angle.

They do not need to look at the "Censor", they are here. They are not supporters of the “Censor”, no, they are not supporters of the United States and the European Union, no, they are with all their “word flow” FOR Russia, FOR New Russia, and they are always ahead.

There is a term in science: mimicry. Mimicry (imitation, masking, fr. Mimétisme, eng. Mimicry) is an expression originally introduced into zoology by Bates to denote some special cases of extreme external resemblance between different species of animals belonging to different clans and even families and orders.
(https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CC%E8%EC%E8%EA%F0%E8%FF, Wikipedia).

So, “patriotic mimicry” is the most dangerous factor. Such people are “their own”, such people write “correct comments”, such people stigmatize and burn with a verb those who really write correct, reasoned, meaningful questions, and give opportunities for an extended discussion, but not bright URA commentary ...

But do these people really give at least a bit of benefit?

Did they give a real comment in a really important article, they gave a comment on a reasoned layout for an article, a news story or a comment from another forum member who gave a very extensive comment and was waiting for the same, extended or not very, but honest answer?

So people do not need honest and reasoned answers, do not need honest information that you need to look for, check and recheck repeatedly, before you put it out and convey, they don’t need extended comments (the shorter the emotional “hurray”, the more effective the “zombie strike”) no argument is needed, they do not need a dialogue, they need a field, an information field of sowing, their mass zombies. As if patriotic, but tuning as it is necessary for them.

I decided to write it for one purpose only. The war is coming. And this war is not just with a female face, but not even with a human one. This war is an explosive mixture of blood and cyber traffic in the Internet.

And when some are fighting with a machine gun in their hand, others, those who are not with him and not there, but who realize themselves as fighters, and most importantly, can be, informative warriors, must clearly understand - THEY ARE THE SOLDIERS OF ONE FRONT!
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  1. Giant thought
    Giant thought 28 August 2014 08: 49
    +8
    Just do not need all under one comb.
    1. Spnsr
      Spnsr 28 August 2014 11: 23
      0
      I don’t understand! Is this about what? can you please detail, the homeland should know its heroes in person !!!!!
      otherwise it smacks of provocation! bully
    2. artemon0502
      artemon0502 28 August 2014 11: 33
      0
      I don’t understand what the author wanted to say about? everyone to the front line? some cattle from a 5-column campaign!
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 28 August 2014 13: 01
        +9
        Well, everyone understands to the best of their promiscuity. I understand it in such a way that there are and still appear a large number of nicknames who simply mindlessly write comments, not particularly delving into the essence of the article, but at the same time consider their opinion to be the ultimate truth. With types that are clearly "on the other side", everything is clear. They are minus, clogged with normal comments and this trollolo either merges or changes the nickname. Although there are also bison that have been trolling on the resource for years. Although, I think they are ideological. But the uryakalka who shout "glory to Russia" or "glory to Novorossiya" or "glory to VVP" are more and more difficult with them. It seems that they say the right words. Why and quickly gain stars. But there is nothing behind the words. Because they are not used to thinking. A good example is Saur-Mogila. This height was needed by the militias until the corridor south of Marinovka was blocked, along which the Ukrop columns were pulled out of the Izvarinsky boiler. Because from it it was possible to adjust the fire of the then few fire weapons of the militia on them well. Therefore, the militiamen laid their heads there under the Ukrop fire. But after the enemy was finally cut off, the height fulfilled its purpose and people were taken away from it, so as not to lose them in vain. And ... it began, "how dare they give up the strategic height, now, as from Karachun near Slavyansk, Donetsk will shoot dill" (does not remind the kenguryanich from his "Shooters - a deserter"?). And look at the map and compare the distance from Karachun to Slavyansk and from Saur to Donetsk ... No ... this is not to squeeze comments. Or just recently there was a comment, "what kind of offensive, if the Saur-grave was not taken." But look at the map, this height has been in the cauldron for a long time, so why climb on it. When I ran out of b / s from dill, then the militia again got out on the navel to finish aiming at the dill.
        It seems that there is nothing dangerous from such "mistakes of nature". But it's not for nothing that the proverb says. Yours is worse than the enemy. Because today he, ideological, yells "VVP returned Crimea - glory to VVP", and tomorrow - "VVP has merged Novorossia - GDP - get out." And, taking into account the mental development of these individuals and the belief in their own infallibility, they are in patriotic ecstasy and will go to Bolotnaya in order to arrange a GDP "get", they will go along with the beloletochniki, whom they branded. They will go, because on Bolotnaya there were pi ... sies and football fans, and they didn't kill each other. So the kangaroo "patriots" will get along with the liberals if one enemy is shown. And this is precisely where the danger lies, because nuclear weapons well protect Russia from an external enemy, but from an internal enemy and a fool, it does not protect Russia. It's no use peeling poplar in Moscow ...
        1. Captain45
          Captain45 28 August 2014 15: 52
          +2
          Quote: alicante11
          And therein lies the danger, because nuclear weapons well protect Russia from the external enemy, but from the internal enemy and the fool, neither does it protect.

          As it was said in one book, I don’t remember the author and the title: "God save us from the internal enemy with red lapels (in the sense of a general), but we can handle the external ones ourselves!" I don’t remember the author, a book about the First World War, from a conversation between comfrey officers.
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 29 August 2014 04: 33
            0
            "God save us from an internal enemy with red lapels (in the sense of a general), and we can handle the external ones ourselves!"


            There is Stepanova in Port Arthur, captain Zhukovsky said, commander of the Electric Cliff :)
        2. Spnsr
          Spnsr 29 August 2014 22: 16
          0
          Quote: alicante11
          alicante11 (4) SU Yesterday, 13:01 ↑

          here you have it all clear, what are you talking about or about whom, the author is a little more complicated with this, it’s not even clear
          GDP returned Crimea - glory to GDP ", and tomorrow -" GDP merged Novorossia - GDP - get
          what of this in his article he wants to say
    3. kingnothing
      kingnothing 28 August 2014 12: 01
      +4
      I agree - it’s not necessary to level everyone! But the author’s words have something to agree with and disagree with.
      I agree - there are many "Hurray" patriots on the resource. And I consider myself to be such! Just remember how many comments and commentators there were before the military clashes in Novorossiya and now. And this, I think, is very good. It pulls us together, strengthens, unites us! This turns us not into some kind of Russian - but into RUSSIAN. In those who were our grandfathers and great-grandfathers, in those whom I would like to see not only my own, but also YOUR children and grandchildren. Yes, I read almost all articles about the present, I confess - historical ones much less often, I don't have enough time. But I do not read in order to instruct the minuses or pluses, but for the sake of the opportunity to look from different angles on the topic under discussion. For this reason, I rarely comment and give plus / minus to both the articles and the author. The author is too critical. We are all different and our thinking is different. Not everyone has the knowledge and time to analyze a lot of information. I will not deceive - I myself do not have this, I work 30 days a month for 10 hours, until you get home - there is no time for analysis. But I find time and look here and get information. Yes, there are a lot of "garbage" comments that do not carry information - but this is the case everywhere! This is the Internet and you get used to it quickly. What I want to say to the author - "Do not stop writing articles and comments. Do not pay attention to the" cons "and negative statements, this resource was created to convey information to people! Maybe YOUR point of view will be correct and make someone look at what is happening from a different angle "
      With respect...
      1. Ayujak
        Ayujak 28 August 2014 16: 48
        +3
        I only agree that there are too many shouting "beat the fascists", "death to the fascists" and so on. And that's all. One phrase. I'm all for it, of course. I would have shot all the reptiles myself. But you can't write about it everywhere you can. Once ok, twice will do, but three, four, etc. times is too much. I ignore this.

        But I read other comments, which minus. About which the author speaks - with a rational grain. I think many of them are minus in the case. If a person has a "sober view" of the situation, as the article says, it is more like "I know everything, and you all." After all, no one knows 100% of the facts. Yes. But the fact that dill destroy their fellow citizens is a fact! The fact that Boeing was shot down is a fact! And when a person says: "yes, I'm not sure that the militiamen are telling the truth ..." - it is certainly like a slap in the face to all of us and not respect for the militias. Even if the militia is pretending to do something, this does not give us the right to speak negatively about them. People on the front line, giving their lives. And we are here. And we can only support them spiritually, morally and financially! What we are doing. And don't give a damn about us, saying that we are blind!

        About the GDP. Many shouted that the GDP shook Novorossia. But, if he attacked, then think about what would happen tomorrow. No one will say what would happen. Would you be glad that tomorrow Minitman will fall on you with a charge of 335 ct? Don't you really want to live a little longer? I think GDP thinks the same way - that is, thinks soberly.
        The same applies to the situation when the Strelkov "leaked" Slavyansk, or the militia "surrendered" Saur Mogila.

        It is necessary to think soberly!
        This is all IMHO.
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 28 August 2014 08: 50
    +13
    Well, what do these "fighters" want and in whose tune are they whistling? The topic has not been disclosed, except for the message that the enemy is cunning and resourceful, which, in principle, is already known.
    1. andj61
      andj61 28 August 2014 08: 55
      +4
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Well, what do these "fighters" want and in whose tune are they whistling? The topic has not been disclosed, except for the message that the enemy is cunning and resourceful, which, in principle, is already known.

      I also read it - everything seems to be correctly written, but absolutely vague: "if someone is here and there at times" ...
      And more:
      And when some are fighting with a machine gun in their hand, others, those who are not with it and not there, but who are self-aware fighters, and most importantly they can be informative warriors, must clearly understand - THEY ARE SOLDIERS OF ONE FRONT!

      Yes, we are soldiers of one front, only one fighting a machine gun is equivalent to the battalion behind the keyboard of a computer ...
      1. Nikolav
        Nikolav 28 August 2014 10: 15
        +2
        And you can do this: - I will teach you to love the motherland!
      2. WKS
        WKS 28 August 2014 11: 00
        +2
        So people do not need honest and reasoned answers, do not need honest information that you need to look for, check and recheck repeatedly, before you put it out and convey, they don’t need extended comments (the shorter the emotional “hurray”, the more effective the “zombie strike”) no argument is needed, they do not need a dialogue, they need a field, an information field of sowing, their mass zombies. As if patriotic, but tuning as it is necessary for them.

        This is human nature and breed, and you can’t alter it. And this should be taken as an irresistible fact. Not everyone needs arguments and facts, slogans corresponding to the internal mood are perceived easier and faster. If all people would question everything, then modern civilization would not exist, and humanity would at best reside in the Stone Age. Wandering through the virgin expanses of Eurasian Africa in small groups, indulging in thought and discussion. Progress is achieved due to the willingness of large groups of people on faith to accept the statements of the leader.
        1. Cadet787
          Cadet787 28 August 2014 11: 58
          +1
          The army of New Russia destroyed 20 mobile mortar groups of security forces of Ukraine
          28.08.2014 - 10: 23
          According to the press service of the Donetsk People’s Republic, over the past week, counterintelligence officers of the Novorossiysk Army eliminated 20 sabotage and reconnaissance groups of Ukrainian security forces firing Donetsk from portable mortars.

          According to the DNI, the fire was fought to defeat passers-by.

          On the roof of the supermarket on Leninsky Prospekt, 3 female snipers were identified, Two of them were eliminated, one managed to escape. Two Ukrainian gunners were detained in Makiivka; radio beacons were discovered with them, which they were planning to install near the electrical substation of the Sovetsky District. A fire spotter was caught there, reporting to the security forces the coordinates of the bomb shelters, Russian.rt.com reports.
      3. Cadet787
        Cadet787 28 August 2014 11: 58
        0
        "CyberBerkut" declassified the losses of the junta in technology
        28.08.2014 - 10: 58
        The hacker group "CyberBerkut" has declassified the data of the Ukrainian security officials about the armored vehicles seized by the militia.

        The hackers say, Ridus writes, that in just a week, the militia captured 14 T-64 tanks, 25 infantry fighting vehicles, 18 armored personnel carriers, one armored reconnaissance patrol vehicle, one Hurricane multiple launch rocket system, and two 2S1 Gvozdika self-propelled artillery mounts , four D-30 howitzers, four mortars, one ZU-23-2 anti-aircraft gun and 33 vehicles.
    2. revnagan
      revnagan 28 August 2014 11: 04
      0
      Quote: Vladimirets
      that the enemy is cunning and dodgy, which, in principle, is already known.

      Why should the enemy dodge! Hiding behind a "nickname", you can write any "revelations"! In my opinion, the author "went too far".
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 28 August 2014 12: 04
        0
        Quote: revnagan
        Why should the enemy dodge! Hiding behind a "nickname", you can write any "revelations"

        First you need to gain credibility on the site, so that people more or less read you, and then start neat stuffing, which leads to certain thoughts.
  3. saag
    saag 28 August 2014 08: 52
    +4
    the case was, before the war, in Belarus. one German spy was exposed there because he shouted the right words at the party meetings loudest, overdid it with patriotism as they say :-)
    1. djtyysq
      djtyysq 28 August 2014 09: 22
      +4
      Quote: saag
      the case was, before the war, in Belarus. one German spy was exposed there because he shouted the right words at the party meetings loudest, overdid it with patriotism as they say :-)


      I agree and would ask: "Who are the judges?"
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  5. demon184
    demon184 28 August 2014 08: 58
    +7
    Well, how to deal with this and what kind of reaction should there be to an open box in Western media?
  6. Avdey69
    Avdey69 28 August 2014 08: 59
    +5
    Someone, as the author, has the time and opportunity to search and analyze information (for which we are very grateful to them), and to the conscript soldier to run in for a minute and hurray! shout already in joy. The author, forgive me, "stars" inadequately to the situation.
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 August 2014 09: 03
    +4
    Something the author overdid. I understood that I would respond positively and express my thoughts about the victories of the militia, about Russia. but at the same time, not bewildering the Russian government - bad.
    1. shtanko.49
      shtanko.49 28 August 2014 11: 12
      0
      Something in this opus is a lot of unclear, the author observes. Isn't the Cossack mishandled?
  8. siberko
    siberko 28 August 2014 09: 09
    0
    Are you an author yourself not from the 5th column?
  9. Klim2011
    Klim2011 28 August 2014 09: 11
    +11
    As a long-time reader, VO registered relatively recently, read articles about weapons and historical articles here (there were no special information on other topics before)
    Yes, there are a lot of recruits, some of them just churn out slogans, if earlier comments and disputes to articles were sometimes more informative and interesting than the article itself, now I read the comments "sideways". But when it all ends, it will end (hopefully successfully) and the events in Novorossiya, there will be fewer reasons to scold at VO.
    PS but in general I am glad that there are so many new people on your favorite site, for those who want to increase their level of knowledge, the site can provide such an opportunity.
    IMHO
  10. djtyysq
    djtyysq 28 August 2014 09: 19
    +3
    May the author forgive me, but I will answer him like this: "There is no more stupid desire to be smarter than others" !!!
  11. Veteran of the Red Army
    Veteran of the Red Army 28 August 2014 09: 31
    +7
    I agree with the author one hundred percent.
    Compare the installation time of this article on the site and the time the first comments appeared.
    When to comprehend them, it is urgent to "cut" balls.
    Shouting "hurray" (Avdey69) is appropriate on the parade ground, in the attack and in similar cases.
    1. Ayujak
      Ayujak 28 August 2014 23: 36
      0
      Yes, I noticed that the first comments often sound like "beat the fascists", "urine the fascists", etc. Somehow it is necessary to move away from this. To be fair, I will say that there are fewer of them.
  12. lexx2038
    lexx2038 28 August 2014 09: 32
    +7
    Apparently the author meant that it is necessary to comment on the essence of the articles, and not throw slogans clogging up the "air", which is a sin to hide, and he himself can succumb to the general mood and stick a laudatory one. In general, he is right, until you get through these "Hurray" to the normal expression of thought, and sometimes you will not get there. In short, no need to litter where you live.
  13. Lukerya Weaver
    Lukerya Weaver 28 August 2014 09: 34
    +5
    I absolutely agree with the author. All the troubles in this world come from very extreme views. Understand, people, the world is diverse and colored with different colors, not just black and white. You can’t assume that only your views are correct, and all the rest are wrong. There is absolute evil in the world - these are radicals of any color. These are people trying to impose their views on the world, because they believe that only they know the truth. You look at what the radicals turned Islam into, a completely peaceful religion. Christianity - Crusades. Many people supported and support Stalin, and yet he is also from the radicals, only communist. Hitler is also a radical, only he had the idea of ​​the superiority of a nation over another. We will not go to extremes, we will not assume that the Russians are the coolest and most correct, everyone else is not worthy, otherwise we will very quickly build Russian fascism. Russian is not better and certainly NOT worse than others. Let us look at our strengths and weaknesses with open rather than blinded eyes. Let's listen to different points of view, even if we do not like them. And yet, for example, I am very scared when an idol is made of Putin. He is a man and may be wrong. He is a man and he has a lot of shortcomings. No wonder there is a commandment - do not make yourself an idol. The idols very quickly disappointed and send them to a landfill.
    1. miv110
      miv110 28 August 2014 15: 39
      +1
      The author tried somewhat confusedly to convey to us an idea that most all the same understood - Don’t speak beautifully, but speak on business! And I agree with him and many others on this. It is necessary to discuss, to look into the essence of events, to search for truth, which does not always lie on the surface. It seems to me in the subject, just, there was a new diary entry on the site of Eugene Grishkovets http://odnovremenno.com/archives/4913, do not be lazy to read.
  14. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 28 August 2014 09: 40
    0
    Uraaaaa))))) wassat laughing
    1. Ayujak
      Ayujak 28 August 2014 23: 37
      0
      haha ... Beat the fascists!
  15. muginov2015
    muginov2015 28 August 2014 09: 42
    -1
    He himself understood what he had planted. He sprayed patriotic saliva and scribbled. Zaminusil.
    1. Kubanist
      Kubanist 28 August 2014 11: 26
      +1
      If you are talking about the author, then he understood everything. And you don't seem very good. Many people put a plus or a minus to any article, without even really thinking about what was said in the article. The same situation is with comments. This can be easily seen from the article about the "type" of our paratroopers caught in Ukraine. Many comments from the series "everything is gone, the army is bullshit, how bad everything is." Even for a second, people do not want to think and analyze the information they receive.
  16. Trom
    Trom 28 August 2014 09: 48
    +5
    If I understood the author correctly, then he calls for a balanced discussion of articles, and not for a surge of emotions in the comments. Some of the Soviet classics (I'm afraid to be mistaken, in my opinion Tvardovsky) equated a feather to a bayonet, by the way, in Sevastopol above the Artbukhta there is a stele symbolizing the union of a bayonet with a feather. And if there is an information war, then we are warriors or victims in it. After all, at first there was a word, and then someone took the machine gun ... in my opinion, the sequence is the following with regards to the situation in Ukraine. The author is a "plus", because more often you want to read arguments, albeit alternative to your thoughts, than just slogans.
  17. iConst
    iConst 28 August 2014 10: 04
    +3
    An article is a good litmus test. wink
  18. CONTROL
    CONTROL 28 August 2014 10: 10
    +2
    ... "in the world of muddy thoughts" ... and words!
  19. Yon_Silent
    Yon_Silent 28 August 2014 10: 23
    +1
    This "mimicry" has long been known. About self-defense tools too:

    "You will recognize them by their fruits. Are they harvested from
    blackthorn grapes, or from a burdock of figs?

    So every good tree brings fruit
    good, but a bad tree bears bad fruit ... "The Gospel of Matthew.
  20. TVM - 75
    TVM - 75 28 August 2014 10: 25
    0
    The author created something like that and he himself did not understand what happened.
  21. Rigla
    Rigla 28 August 2014 10: 53
    0
    In my opinion, some kind of stuffing against Kurginyan, I almost never support him, but I must admit for him the RIGHT to say what he thinks. and for the formation of the EMPIRE he did quite a lot, there is no way to take it away, and it is good that polar opinions are discussed here. Truth is born in a dispute. Agree7
  22. borru74
    borru74 28 August 2014 10: 54
    -1
    He put a plus, but the respected author of the opus is similar to those scribblers who wrote the same hedgehogs before the First World War in the Russian Empire. He seems to be right, he seems to have filed everything correctly, but filed with a sweet heart.
    PS If that excuse me! recourse
  23. Loner_53
    Loner_53 28 August 2014 10: 58
    +1
    with regards to the author,
    something tricky issued you, comrade winked
  24. Bayun
    Bayun 28 August 2014 11: 00
    +1
    War in life is for warriors; on the Web - for smart people. A soldier in an info war looks as ridiculous as a wise guy on the front line. There are exceptions, but the rule works. It is also worth honestly admit that there are more clever liberals on the side of evil. So the best tactic in the info war, especially if there is a real war, is CENSOR.
  25. Alfizik
    Alfizik 28 August 2014 11: 07
    0
    Yes, there are many "fighters" of screamers, thoughts and benefits from them are few. This is the whole society (in any country): 10% are screamers, 10% are a thoughtful, creative part of society, 80% are weathercocks. As in any company, shouters and sane people "direct the wind" - they fight for "direction of weather vane". And everyone imagines himself to be a strategist.
  26. artemon0502
    artemon0502 28 August 2014 11: 34
    -3
    with 5 columns!
  27. Rigla
    Rigla 28 August 2014 11: 44
    0
    Friends! Throw a link to the review of the war map TODAY in PM.
  28. Mishanya 84
    Mishanya 84 28 August 2014 11: 52
    0
    The fact that being a patriot has become fashionable is good. And people writing short comments - the slogans were and will be.
  29. Kingfisher
    Kingfisher 28 August 2014 12: 37
    -1
    Wow ! Familiar rhetoric - "zombie strike", "massive zombie messages", "vicious patriotic grin" ... Advertising "Censor" for some reason ... Kurginyan dragged ...
    Mimic a dude?
    Minus am
    1. Kingfisher
      Kingfisher 28 August 2014 13: 54
      +1
      Quote: Kingfisher
      Wow ! Familiar rhetoric - "zombie strike", "massive zombie messages", "vicious patriotic grin" ... Advertising "Censor" for some reason ... Kurginyan dragged ...
      Mimic a dude?
      Minus am

      And I consider myself a patriot, even if I “hurray” and in the information war I will sow, as far as possible, on this field both appeals and slogans - so that the forest weeds do not break through. "We'll find it in the toilet and soak it in the toilet" - the field also requires weeding, albeit an "evil patriotic" one. So gentlemen, liberally rigged favors, please minus me.
  30. zllllo
    zllllo 28 August 2014 14: 08
    +3
    I rely on sanity, which I also wish you.
  31. Captain45
    Captain45 28 August 2014 15: 44
    +2
    “Glory to Russia (Ukraine),” cried these fighters for Russia and Novorossia, zealously seated at their keyboards, actively and tons of comments filled with “patriotic” slogans, “revealing” secret and obvious enemies of Russia, stigmatizing and minus comments of sensible members of the forum, who are lost in the stream of angry "Kill, urine, scum, death to the fascists, not a step back" (but do not support this stream of "malicious patriotically" grin), branding them (with these secret minuses) in non-patriotism explicitly verbal and carrying the flag of "true truth" in masses Koruzlykh from this "non-patriotism" of the citizens of the forum and Russia as a whole.
    Ah, well done, Oleg! good As b.a.d.da.k began in Ukraine, so the fighters of the invisible front came out of nowhere. The article comes out, for example, at 7.15, and at 7.20 already a bunch of "tear, soak". Do not sleep around the clock, or what? For example, Portos85 registered in May, in June it was already a marshal, and all comments are "tear it up, soak it". It is clear that there are solid pluses on the emotional wave. Previously, they argued on the site in discussions, arguments were given, but now there is an article about the situation in Novorossia, in the comments there are continuous re-posts of summaries from different sites on 5-6 pages. It is clear that I want to share, but you even have articles read the comments, otherwise they post one summary 5-6 times. It is clear that the site is Dear, articles from it are posted on other sites, but let's keep the brand of the site, stop yelling "we'll break it." Whoever has been on the site for a long time I noticed that many participants no longer participate in the discussions, because there is no point. Continuous Hurray, march-march. It was already annoying. Honestly, I already read comments to articles obliquely, because there is nothing new to learn from the discussion. hi
  32. postoronim V
    postoronim V 28 August 2014 16: 06
    +2
    I agree with the author of the article, comments on the articles have become completely not informative in relation to the topic under discussion. It is up to the moderators to clean up the trash, which is off topic, but let us also take at least the minimum, but everyone needs to start and start.
  33. Paul
    Paul 28 August 2014 17: 09
    0
    Everything is too messy written, there were thoughts that Klitschko wrote, or in a hurry, or on emotions, but, in principle, I agree that we need "comments" justified and only on the topic.
  34. Rigla
    Rigla 28 August 2014 18: 35
    +1
    Quote: Captain45
    [i] "Glory to Russia For example, Portos85 registered in May, in June already a Marshal, hi

    careers are fast in war fellow
  35. Balamyt
    Balamyt 29 August 2014 03: 13
    +1
    August is a time when people with whom you have been discussing world problems for half a year suddenly write that tomorrow they’re going with their mother to buy school uniforms. wassat
  36. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 29 August 2014 20: 43
    +1
    I agree with the Author.
    Thank you for the article.

    Military Review is a strong platform.
    It was not easy to "join the ranks" on it, as there were quite a few pros who cracked like a nut almost anyone who tried to "splurge".
    The authority of the Military Review was on a high bar. Articles cited by other publications. The comments were often more professional than the MOST article ...
    Is it good and worthy?
    Yes

    But Military Review at the moment has become the mouthpiece of the defense of the Slavic world against the arrogance of the West, which is trying to just chew on one of the parts of our world - Ukraine.
    And articles on this topic became dominant on the site.
    At times, the number of forum users has increased. There was a certain unification of different in life people, united for the sake of THIS goal.
    A certain sledgehammer of information war appeared.
    It's good ?
    Yes.

    But look what has become of the QUALITY of comments?
    The gray mass came and began to stupidly yell monosyllabic words, copying the same koment on different topics.
    - If earlier they fought for the race "to be the first in the discussion" (yes, there was a case), but quickly and easily brought out those who threw a comment without reading the article itself, now THIS IS NOT EVEN noticeable.
    - And to write a comment in sequence - it is already considered shameful - everyone climbs "up". Everyone wants to shout a couple of cheap phrases as quickly as possible and earn pluses.
    - Today we scream for Putin, and tomorrow we pour mud on Putin ... such komenty are cheap.
    What do we have?
    In the comments, the crowd rages with monosyllabic chants and frantically pluses itself for "highlights".
    It seems that everything is correct - Patriotism after all, but ... some kind of cheap patriotism.
    Military pros - it took a lot of them. They just do not like "performances", have seen enough during their service, and ... they do not like the war itself, and besides, they do not digest empty slogans.
    It's good ?
    No.

    What this threatens:
    One example ...
    - "tsensor.net" do you like? It is clear that not, you are on Topvar))). Why don't you? Nazis? Yes. Don't understand what they are doing? Yes. Do they have zombie TV? Yes. Do they have empty comments? Yes. Are they vicious and aggressive? Yes.
    - And now we will remove from their reasoning the word "Nazis" and "do not understand what they are doing", we will move the sign "-" to the sign "+" and what will we see ???
    And if you think and answer honestly?
    Yes, we will see the current comments of the Military Review on "Ukrainian themes".
    Yes, we went down to them (Tsenzorovsky level).
    And the sooner we admit ourselves to this, the ... WE WILL BECOME STRONGER.

    Yes, not everyone fights at the forefront.
    Yes. the information war in the 21st century is categorically NOT LOSE, and these are ONE SIDE OF THE FRONT, as the author of the article concluded, but ...

    IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO MAKE INFORMATION. WAR IS SO CHEAPER AS HOW WE ARE TAKING IT NOW ON FUEL.
    So far this: quality at the level of the Maidan is shorter.
    ......................................................................

    Thanks again to the author for the article.
    It is a pity that yesterday I could not talk.
    It is a pity that so few comments in principle.
    It is a pity that there are few sensible comments among them.
    I just believe that we will learn how to wage an information war more beautifully and boldly, sophisticatedly, about as effectively as the militias are now putting out the National Guard.
    And ... I hope that the level of professionalism in discussing articles on political topics will get stronger, and on military topics ... will return again.

    Respectfully:
    Alex.