New Chinese hypersonic submarine will be able to reach San Francisco in 100 minutes

Chinese scientists have managed to find a way to create a supersonic submarine that can bridge the distance between the PRC and San Francisco in just 100 minutes, reports gearmix.ru. The project of the new submarine was created thanks to new discoveries in the field of supercavitation.

Initially, this technique was developed for the Soviet torpedo "Squall", created during the Cold War. It could reach speeds of up to 500 km / h, however restrictions were imposed on the size of the used torpedo bubble and its maximum speed.

Now, Chinese experts have stated that they have found a way to generate large air bubbles that reduce water friction even with large underwater vehicles. They note that thanks to the new technology, you can create a full-size super-cavitation submarine capable of accelerating to the speed of sound.

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[Nevsky_ZU]

Vandervafle ?!

[master 84]

They probably lie or somewhere they stole something. It is interesting to see after its passage that a tsunami or just a storm is created

[vorobey]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Vandervafle ?!

Quote: master 84

They probably lie or somewhere they stole something

And what is the logic of such a prodigy .... torpedo I still understand, but the boat .... bust ..

[Andrey from Tver]

Quote: vorobey

And what is the logic of such a prodigy ..

Consumer goods delivered to America, why else?

[demon1978]

Andrey from Tver (1) RU Today, 10:23 ↑ New
Quote: vorobey
And what is the logic of such a prodigy ..
Consumer goods delivered to America, why else

100 %%, and Chinese noodles to hang on your ears !!!

[stalfal]

It is no longer suitable for anything) at such a speed to go around a mine is unrealistic.

[edge]

It is no longer suitable for anything) at such a speed to pass a mine is unrealistic. [/ Quote]
there is only one sense, as soon as possible to make legs squinting.

[edge]

100 %%, and Chinese noodles to hang on your ears !!! [/ quote]
- I did all the wretched things to slam, draw a little and scream to the whole world, -we can also sort of

[GDP]

Sound speed - 5800 km / h? RAVE! Or maybe still about 1200 km / h
among other things, the fastest fighter of the 5 generation of the raptor f 22 is capable of developing a cruising speed of not more than 1826 km / h ....

In short, complete nonsense! This is due to its weight and size characteristics and limited radius and, as a result, the mass of fuel and the volume of fuel tanks, moreover, to develop such a speed, fly in the upper layers of the troposphere, lower - air density will not allow ...

If such a boat were really created, then it could fly not much faster than the speed of sound, but most likely much less, only at a very short distance and without any serious weapons

It is unlikely that she would be able to swim, even to Japan, and even if she swam, she would have nothing to do there ...

However, the very idea of ​​creating an air bubble on the bow of the boat is interesting. It is possible to speed up for a short distance in order to avoid pursuit or to provide a more economical fuel consumption mode due to better hydrodynamics
The idea itself is similar to the domestic idea of ​​using plasma to improve the aerodynamic qualities of fighters ...

[Evgeniy.]

Sound speed - 5800 km / h? RAVE! Or maybe still about 1200 km / h
Of course nonsense! In water, the speed of sound is equal to a wavelength of about 1500 km / h

[Wedmak]

In water, the speed of sound is equal to a wavelength of about 1500 km / h

Um ... right? Heretic!!! Shoot!

[Pasus]

is there a massive violation of fundamental physics ????
ps: for reference, the speed of sound in water at 25 degrees. the target is equal to 1496 M / S (meters per second) emoe, shame!

[Wedmak]

Sound speed - 5800 km / h? RAVE! Or maybe still about 1200 km / h

In water, the speed of sound is 1532,3 m / s at a temperature of 24 degrees. In iron 5170 m / s, in fused quartz 5760 m / s. Will you translate it into kilometers per hour?

The idea itself is similar to the domestic idea of ​​using plasma to improve the aerodynamic qualities of fighters ...

What does plasma have to do with aerodynamics? It seems that the idea of ​​using plasma was different, namely, a decrease in radio visibility.

[Gambit]

Quote: Wedmak

What does plasma have to do with aerodynamics? It seems that the idea of ​​using plasma was different, namely, a decrease in radio visibility.

The relationship is direct - the object inside the plasma formation does not experience any resistance. Radio visibility in this case is a secondary bonus.

[GDP]

The relationship is direct - the object inside the plasma formation does not experience any resistance. Radio visibility in this case is a secondary bonus.

Moreover, the deterioration of the passage of the radio signal through the plasma is also a serious technical problem that seriously interferes with navigation and communication ...

[Saratovets]

under water, the speed of sound is different))

[ermolai]

sound speed 1188km \ hour 330m \ s x 3600sec \ hour = 1188000m \ hour, whence

Quote: GDP

Speed ​​of sound - 5800 km / h?

[Wedmak]

You counted the speed in the atmosphere, and we in the water.

[Cynic]

Quote: Andrey from Tver

Consumer goods delivered to America, why else?

Yeah, sort of megatons per 100.
Given the Sakharov idea of ​​undermining a nuclear warhead off the coast of the SGA, this is a very transparent hint.

Hello man-made nuclear tsunami !!!

[Gbanderlog]

So through the air faster. Although the interception in the water column has not yet been worked out at such speeds, but a trace of such a thing will be visible from the satellite.

[bmv04636]

which can deliver and install the losharik

[avg]

Yes, which today they just do not create with the help of bubbles, from fake news, to world crises.

[WKS]

Quote: vorobey

And what is the logic of such a prodigy .... torpedo I still understand, but the boat .... bust ..

And if we also take into account that this "discovery" is presented through the open press, then most likely somewhere the true developers had a serious leak. Most likely ours.

[Sid.74]

Quote: vorobey

And what is the logic of such a prodigy .... torpedo I still understand, but the boat .... bust ..

Kamikaze submarine!

[andj61]

Quote: vorobey

And what is the logic of such a prodigy .... torpedo I still understand, but the boat .... bust ..

Exactly. Immediately I remember the good old Soviet "Shkval". But 100 minutes to San Francisco? This is many times greater speed!

"Flurry" - Soviet high-speed underwater rocket (torpedo). Designed to defeat surface and underwater targets. It is part of an armament complex deployed on a surface ship, submarine or fixed installation ...
November 29, 1977 anti-submarine complex "Flurry" was adopted by the Navy of the USSR. Initially carried a nuclear warhead of 150 kt, subsequently created an option with a conventional warhead with autonomous control, without homing.

A high speed of movement (up to 500 km / h, depending on the density of the aquatic environment) of the torpedo was obtained through the use of an underwater jet engine running on hydroreactive solid fuel, which provides great traction, and the movement of the rocket in the cavitation cavity (air bubble), which reduces water resistance.

So the principle of operation is exactly the same.
But something tells me that this is a fake.

[armageddon]

Hmm ... Observing UFOs, the military became convinced of the possibility of such devices ... So do not indiscriminately: Like trusting 100 percent ... This is skeptical of information ... !!!

[RusDV]

Quote: vorobey

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Vandervafle ?!

Quote: master 84

They probably lie or somewhere they stole something

And what is the logic of such a prodigy .... torpedo I still understand, but the boat .... bust ..

Logic is only in speed ..... It is difficult to dodge the Shkval torpedo due to its speed, the attack takes seconds, but its 600 miles are heard .... That is, for a submarine, this super-noise makes it practically a missile boat - there is zero stealth.

[abrakadabre]

Enchanting article !!! Bravo!!! Rzhaka !!!

Those. for submarines, this super-noisiness makes it almost a missile boat - stealth is zero.

Well, it’s kind of supersonic . Ahead of his own sound type floats, that is, flies. And so she doesn’t care.
But given the mass of the average shock submarine at ... some 10-20 thousand tons ... In general, it takes energy to accelerate this boat to the declared speed (if supersonic in water, then to ... mmmm ... we put 2 km / sec) not just a lot, but a lot. Those who wish can strain the calculator and count for a vacuum. And even more so in a dense environment like water, the amount of energy needed will increase dramatically.
The Energy rocket is ten times lighter, and flew in a much more malleable environment, and not much of the structure reached the orbit.
Since they have such a breakthrough in power plants, isn't it easier to launch 100500-ton space cities into orbit? Or the military Death Stars. After all, no one surpasses.
Well, or just an ICBM in the dimension and weight of an underwater missile carrier. With this size and speed, she basically doesn't care ANY air defense / missile defense - you can book a rocket like a dreadnought. And in general, a warhead is not required - make it a kinetic blank and grind like a sickly meteorite. The result will be the same as from a vigorous bomb. Just do not fool around with the extraction of radioactive materials, nor with the aging of warheads, or with the contamination of the area after use. Know load warhead at least gravel from the nearest quarry.

[flSergius]

And what is the logic of such a prodigy .... torpedo I still understand, but the boat .... bust.

And what is the logic of the fact that you go to the cottage by car ... to another country on vacation, I still understand, but to the cottage .... bust. The maneuverability and responsiveness of the logic.

[shuhartred]

Quote: flSergius

And what is the logic of the fact that you go to the country by car

By car!!! And not on the tank !!! In my opinion, an ekranoplan is many times more effective than such a prodigy. If only, as an option, single-seat submarine fighters. Flew, sunk, fled. All out.

[Bkmz]

But what if the boat has 20 cruise missiles with a nuclear warhead? The technology is useful, whether the Chinese can implement it is another matter. But our engineers cannot relax and need to collaborate with the Chinese around this technology.

[mgfly]

as an option - to get away from such a torpedo))
but in general - this is one of the options for fast covert delivery of percussion instruments (short-range missiles, arctic foxes ...) to the shores of a potential enemy

[abrakadabre]

this is one of the fast secretive options

Secretive? !!!!!
When moving under water a material body 200-300 meters long, 15-20 meters in diameter (how many nuclear submarines are there) with the stated HIDDEN speed supersonic for water ?! After all, it’s 1.5-2 kilometers per second!
There will be such tsunamis and noise all over the world ocean! Given the shock front of a supersonic wave in incompressible water, there will be not only tsunamis and sound, but also the seismic component. There, a fish with whales for a couple of thousand kilometers around the route will float up belly. And in San Francisco, seismic sensors will work.
The article is nonsense shkolota.

[edge]

And what is the logic of such a prodigy .... torpedo I still understand, but the boat .... bust .. [/ quote]
I wonder how it will be controlled. Americans slammed technology-stealth, chines-flurry ... and screams at the whole world with dropping snot and hand shake, how smart they are

[Ataman]

The main weapon of the boat will be a giant wake trail, like a tsunami washing away everything on the American coast.

[insafufa]

Or friends on opium got hooked as their ancestors have fun after expansion consciousnesses

[demon1978]

Ataman SU Today, 10:17 ↑ New
The main weapon of the boat will be a giant wake trail, like a tsunami washing away everything on the American coast.

The Japanese ALREADY in ALESA — a couple of circles in a circle of them — and a complete Ambassador to samurai !!!

[Skiff_spb]

Yeah. And the route will be like for a starship - + - degree second and entered the rock.

[demon1978]

Skiff_spb RU Today, 10:38 ↑
Yeah. And the route will be like for a starship - + - degree second and entered the rock.

You forgot about the TELEPORTATION mode, if things go wrong and go to the next round, the main fuel was enough, although it is most likely on the PEDAL DRIVE, so the number of attempts is UNLIMITED !!! and in the end they WILL ACHIEVE GOALS because by the time of limitation, too, NO-will be reproduced without leaving the pedals !!!! CRUNCH !!!, USE LOST THE CHEF !!!

[shuhartred]

Quote: Skiff_spb

degree second and entered the rock.

Imagine what the flaw will be. Cleaner than a nuclear explosion.

[Sid.74]

They note that thanks to new technology, it is possible to create a full-size super-cavitation submarine capable of accelerating to the speed of sound - 5800 km / h.

And what will happen to the crew at such a speed? The pressure of the water masses is unlikely to achieve something like this! I think this is a fake! The titanium Soviet submarine K-222 "Goldfish" under the "Anchar" project developed some measly 80 km / h (42 knots).
And this is a miracle of Chinese engineering, it turns out that it should move through the water at a speed of 3131,75 knots! UFO nervously smokes on the sidelines!

[volodyk50]

And what will happen to the crew at such a speed? The pressure of the water masses is unlikely to achieve something like this! I think this is a fake! The titanium Soviet submarine K-222 "Goldfish" under the "Anchar" project developed some measly 80 km / h (42 knots)

moreover, she developed these 42 nodes a couple of times during tests, and the sailors on board at that moment told what bricks were put on the b / posts, because she was shaking and clobbering from side to side and up and down incredibly. Moreover, according to the recognition of those he submariners, the boat at that moment was practically uncontrollable.

[demon1978]

Sid.74 (2) RU Today, 10: 26 ↑ New

And what will happen to the crew at such a speed? The pressure of the water mass is unlikely to achieve something like this! I think it's fake!

NIFIGA !!!! they have a TELEPORTATION mode there, just write FORGOTTEN (why bother on trifles ??? !!! )

[andj61]

Quote: Sid.74

And this is a miracle of Chinese engineering, it turns out that it should move through the water at a speed of 3131,75 knots! UFO nervously smokes on the sidelines!

“Flurry” is a Soviet high-speed underwater missile (torpedo), the speed is only up to 200 knots. Is this submarine 15 times faster? Fake, definitely!

[Mama_Cholli]

Quote: Sid.74

They note that thanks to new technology, it is possible to create a full-size super-cavitation submarine capable of accelerating to the speed of sound - 5800 km / h.

And what will happen to the crew at such a speed? The pressure of the water masses is unlikely to achieve something like this! I think this is a fake! The titanium Soviet submarine K-222 "Goldfish" under the "Anchar" project developed some measly 80 km / h (42 knots).
And this is a miracle of Chinese engineering, it turns out that it should move through the water at a speed of 3131,75 knots! UFO nervously smokes on the sidelines!

The answer is simple ... The boat will go on autopilot, and the crew will land on its board right off the coast of the United States. Moreover, the carrier of the landing group will be a ballistic missile in the bow of which, instead of warheads, a change house will be installed (with a shower and a TV) for the crew ...

[jagdpanzer]

I think I’ll have to make a brown shape in advance

[iConst]

Congratulations to everyone on April 1 on the Chinese calendar ...

[iConst]

And the Chinese, it turns out, know how to joke ...

[GSH-18]

Now, Chinese experts said they found a way to generate large air bubbles

THEY ONLY FOUND THE METHOD (which may not yet be suitable for this purpose)! And here the article was already riveted about something like a ready-made submarine, which can reach syshya in 100 minutes! I would like to wish Chinese friends trindet less and do more. So far the situation is reversed.

[iConst]

Quote: GSH-18

THEY ONLY FOUND THE METHOD (which may not yet be suitable for this purpose)!

According to the same publication, inspired by the first theoretical successes, Chinese scientists began to develop a similar apparatus, but capable of moving underground through magma. Nothing is said about the speed of the device, but according to a representative of the research group "it will be impressive."

This is a joke...

[Scoun]

Quote: master 84

They probably lie or somewhere they stole something. It is interesting to see after its passage that a tsunami or just a storm is created

Yes, she’s just after a hundred miles that the thread will be bummed, well, or at least tormented.

[Very old]

It is interesting to compare the numbers: 5 km / h
Sound speed - tell me, please ..
But do not IKSuy five mach?

1224 -!

[Wedmak]

For 1 MAX, the speed of sound in the air near the earth is accepted - 1100 km / h. But this is a very approximate value, since it depends on the density of air. But in water, the speed of sound is already 1200 m / s, which is exactly 5800 km / h.

[Very old]

DENIS,
You are about density further. MEDIA is different, plus the speed of creating conditions requires some energy costs
Isaac Asimov is resting

[Wedmak]

Yes, here all the fantasies of the 20 century rest. In my opinion, none of them thought of such a heresy. Although the depths in 7-10 kilometers plunged easily and routinely.

[zeleznijdorojnik]

or somewhere they stole something

Not just somewhere, but it is completely known where - the Shkval torpedo missile.

[inkass_98]

Quote: master 84

created by a tsunami or just a storm

These are questions for science fiction writers. The speed of sound in water is about 5400 km / h (plus or minus salinity, density, etc.). She will not make noise either, apparently. And we will completely leave aside the question of its controllability, maneuvering at a distance of acceleration and braking. And what will the shock wave of transition to supersonic under water look like?

[Wedmak]

And what will the shock wave of transition to supersonic under water look like?

Given that the water is practically not compressible, most likely on a steel wall that opens up into a thin bloody suspension of fish and animals, leaving plowed soil at the bottom and ... but what will happen on the surface is very interesting? It’s like the border of two media with a density difference of 800 times.

[Cynic]

Quote: master 84

They probably lie or somewhere they stole something.

Well, it's not for nothing that "Shkval" was mentioned _

[tilovaykrisa]

most likely they brought the theoretical basis for such a project, it’s necessary to report somehow for the loot, but it’s not without reason that after 10 years it’s true they will build and test their capabilities, that is.

[volot-voin]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Vandervafle ?!

Something is not believed. UFO Chinese have not yet built? Interestingly, let's say they reached hypersonic speed under water (what’s wrong), then how will they calculate the trajectory? A torpedo squall is one thing, a submarine is another.

[Nikolav]

And imagine, if true? Aircraft carriers can be scrapped!

[Sid.74]

Quote: Nicholas

And imagine, if true? Aircraft carriers can be scrapped!

Why, there! You can even send ICBMs to the scrap!

[GSH-18]

Quote: Sid.74

Quote: Nicholas
And imagine, if true? Aircraft carriers can be scrapped!

Why, there! You can even send ICBMs to the scrap! wassat

And these boats will be equipped with kamikaze
and one large container of explosives in the bow compartment In general, an enlarged (up to impossible) copy of the Soviet "Shkval".

[abrakadabre]

and one large container of explosives in the bow compartment

You can save on explosives. With the mass of the nuclear submarine at 20 thousand tons and the speed in kilometers per second, the kinetic shock action of the boat itself plus the front of the shock wave in the water and the subsequent tsunami from the wake is quite enough. "Cheap" and extremely angry. In addition, no radiation contamination of the area.
In addition, you can attack not only the coastline. If on the approach to jump out of the water at the right angle, at this speed and mass, air resistance can be neglected and fly a lot into the territory.

[Wedmak]

Interestingly, let's say they reached hypersonic speed under water (what’s wrong), then how will they calculate the trajectory?

Calculating something is not a problem, but how to change it?

[demon1978]

Wedmak RU Today, 10:39 ↑ New
Interestingly, let's say they reached hypersonic speed under water (what’s wrong), then how will they calculate the trajectory?
Calculating something is not a problem, but how to change it?

And what for to calculate it, and even more so to change ??? !!! It is just the same in the DIRECTION of California: they should get to ONE from the Americas !!!

[Sid.74]

Quote: demon1978

And what for to calculate it, and even more so to change ??? !!! It is just the same in the DIRECTION of California: they should get to ONE from the Americas !!!

Something anecdote was remembered about the Soviet metro builders, Well, to the far end you will have two tunnels!

PS ... To copy someone else’s comment into your post, left-click to select the desired text, and click to quote under the comment!
It will turn out like that!

Quote: demon1978

Well, in California DIRECTION

[demon1978]

Quote: Sid.74

PS ... To copy someone else’s comment into your post, left-click to select the desired text, and click to quote under the comment!
It will turn out like that!

Thanks for the tip !!

[Oprychnyk]

Yes. The question is of course interesting. It is necessary to calculate the trajectory in such a way that it doesn’t catch a single stranger and underwater rock. In short, I get it. Pepelats will be unmanned.
Or, if you like, something like an underwater ballistic missile.

[iConst]

Quote: Oprychnyk

like an underwater ballistic missile

However, bent ...

[a52333]

Chinese scientists have managed to find a way to create a supersonic submarine that can cover the distance between China and San Francisco in just 100 minutes

[Basarev]

Fantasy. Even Soviet engineers failed to achieve this. Meanwhile, it was Soviet military technology that was the most advanced. Many are even now breakthrough and revolutionary. What can we say about those times ...

[Pajamas]

Well, well, first let those 5800 km / h (1,6 km per second) show in the air, imagine the acceleration with which the boat should move and the crew’s overloads, trepachki, any artificial obstacle in the way of such an underwater wunderwaffle and kirdyk, and it should make noise it will be so that you can hear on the moon, and it will also glow like a light bulb and emit steam like a kettle, and the location method in such garbage is interesting, the speed is faster than the acoustics, in general, it will be launched in the direction of North America and California, Mexico or Canada is already how will God give

[hoard]

Quote: Basarev

Even Soviet engineers failed to achieve this. Meanwhile, it was Soviet military technology that was the most advanced.

The deepest delusion. But before entering the VVMURE them. Popov, I thought so myself))). Moreover, most of the Soviet technologies (including military ones) were "seamless" from the West.

Quote: Basarev

Many are even now breakthrough and revolutionary.

I would say only a few.

[Basarev]

Just don’t tell me that the USSR was the most technically backward country, and the USA - the absolute leaders in everything.

[hoard]

The USSR as a whole technically lagged behind the West - this is no secret to anyone.

[Cynic]

Quote: magot

The USSR as a whole technically lagged behind the West - this is no secret to anyone.

Civil sector who argue. Here in the military ...

[abrakadabre]

Even Soviet engineers failed to achieve this.

Lies! Managed. True, submarines and water have nothing to do with it at all. This is called an ICBM.

[Very old]

Your cat from the Strategic Missile Forces -?

[Wedmak]

And let's think, is it really possible to make an underwater object moving at least 500 m / s for at least some long time?
So it seems to me a kind of "needle" of high elongation with rocket engines, a cavitator on the nose and bubble support elements throughout the body.

[demon1978]

Wedmak RU Today, 11:00 ↑ New
And let's think, is it really possible to make an underwater object moving at least 500 m / s for at least some long time?
So it seems to me a kind of "needle" of high elongation with rocket engines, a cavitator on the nose and bubble support elements throughout the body.

Supertanker-tanker in tow, forgotten with methyl-heptyl !!! (if this is a submarine, but not an easy "object")

[Demon0n]

Quote: Wedmak

And let's think, is it really possible to make an underwater object moving at least 500 m / s for at least some long time?
So it seems to me a kind of "needle" of high elongation with rocket engines, a cavitator on the nose and bubble support elements throughout the body.

Suppose theoretically possible ... However, energetically not beneficial (if at all feasible). The cavitator will no longer be a cavitator, but something resembling a "shaper" of a constant cumulative gas jet for preliminary rupture of the water column. Further, the task is to form a superdense gas envelope (since the water pressure in the boundary layer will be very high).
I can assume that the theoretical speed of movement, together with the gas density at the interface of the media, is the very theoretical justification ... It is only easier to put the 2nd Moon into orbit (in its entirety) than to create the thrust necessary for this miracle for a sufficiently long time. I will not say anything about materials (which are not), structural strength and a power plant with fuel ...
A theoretical justification is good, but in practice - you should not wait for implementation ...
Most likely, someone turned the message about mathematical calculation into a funny joke (funny).

[DMB-88]

The Chinese have not yet come up with anything new in modern science and technology, copying other people's ideas is an accent of China! In the 90s, a lot of technical documentation of the USSR on the latest and most promising developments ended up in China, and industrial espionage greatly helps the Chinese!

[mirrorfax]

Well, why is the Wonder ... fly. Everything is quite simple. 1500 Chinese, together farting into one pipe, create a bubble, and that there are forces rowed with oars.

[Giant thought]

In any case, this statement of the Chinese deserves a thorough study, such submarines would definitely not hurt us.

[MBA78]

in any case, it is good that they want to curb and break through "through the thicknesses and thorns" to the endless expanses of the big ocean ... perhaps this race in the future is given to become amphibians

[AVV]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Vandervafle ?!

It seems that the first of April has already passed, but not for everyone !!!

[spech]

mdya Anglican scientists smoke bamboo (while not exhaling)

[demon1978]

spech (1) RU Today, 10:10
mdya Anglican scientists smoke bamboo (while not exhaling)
100 %%
Moreover, a very long time.

[rotmistr60]

With all due respect to China - well, brothers, you turned down.

[MBA78]

for starters, it didn’t hurt to study the properties of H2O better

[bmv04636]

Balls Balls Balls Hypersonic rockets in the air can not fly for a long time and then in the water. What energy should this device have? The Chinese gathered to boil water, or something.

[bda]

Initially, this technique was developed for the Soviet flurry "Flurry", created during the Cold War

And what does our science say about this?

[Wedmak]

And what does our science say about this?

I think a finger twirls at the temple.

[demon1978]

bda RU Today, 10:12
Wedmak RU Today, 10:37 ↑ New
And what does our science say about this?
I think a finger twirls at the temple.

No, it doesn’t twist and is silent, it fell into a deep swoon !!! but how else, the basis of the universe to collapse !!!

[K-50]

Quote: bda

And what does our science say about this?

"And what will the head of the transport department tell us?" (FROM)
Nonsense, these are the remnants of the burning of opium from Chinese thinkers transmitted by inheritance

[abrakadabre]

And what does our science say about this?

Our science says that for some time large meteorites and asteroids can move at such speed in water. As a result of the last recorded such case, dinosaurs became extinct 65 million years ago.

[Aslan]

A copy of the Shkval, only with small compartments for the Chinese crew.

[volot-voin]

Quote: Aslan

A copy of the Shkval, only with small compartments for the Chinese crew.

Disposable, with kamikaze sailors.

[kavad]

Well yes! They are small. And also like Pelevin - they will cut off his legs!

[the villain]

Quote: kavad

And also like Pelevin - they will cut off his legs!

And they will pedal than what ???

[Aibolit]

how to slow it down. or kamikaze.

[Neighbor]

Yes, and controlled in a bubble and at such a speed ... And the satellite will immediately detect.

[sso-xnumx]

And I'm about the same. It is not clear which mover will be, direction and depth control (it will tear and twist everything that protrudes from the submarine’s hull), the notch of the cavitation path from the satellite is real, and the noise from the super-cavern should be detected by anyone.

[Weniamin]

Quote: sso-250659

Neighbor Today, 10:16 ↑ New
Yes, and controlled in a bubble and at such a speed ... And the satellite will immediately detect.
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sso-250659 (1) Today, 10:40 ↑ New
And I'm about the same. It is not clear which mover will be, direction and depth control (it will tear and twist everything that protrudes from the submarine’s hull), the notch of the cavitation path from the satellite is real, and the noise from the super-cavern should be detected by anyone.

Judging by the performance characteristics of the "Shkval", this submarine will be absolutely uncontrollable in the main mode. And if on its way there is some kind of underwater bekarasik, then one can imagine what kind of blow will be on the body. If it does not hit, then it will take you away from the course for sure. And there are plenty of animals in the ocean.

[svp67]

But I wonder how the noise of this "Chinese miracle"? And what will happen if on the way, suddenly a sandbank or a reef, or maybe a mine, which one will be drawn? Something tells me that they started talking about such a project a bit early ... What will they be armed with? How is Jules-Vernov's "Nautilus" triangular ram?

[kompotnenado]

There will be nothing with noise. The boat moves at supersonic speed. Arrives at the destination before the sound.

[Bombardier]

Oh, these tales, oh, these storytellers ....

To begin with, a torpedo, whatever they would do, and only then they took up a submarine.
What is the source of information?

[pensioner]

Now, Chinese experts said they found a way to generate large air bubbles

And I thought that according to air bubbles, the main experts are mattress-beds ...
And if on the topic, then I do not believe it. More precisely, theoretically everything is possible. But now, when you start trying to apply this theory to create a specific device - then all the devils get out.
And even from there, from where you do not expect. So, if such a submarine is possible to create, then very soon. Most likely not in this century. IMHO.

[gfs84]

No mattress covers are great soap bubble specialists ...

[volot-voin]

Quote: retired

on air bubbles the main experts mattresses

By air bubbles, maybe yes, a Hollywood flight to the moon is worth it.
The main specialists in cavitation in the Russian Federation, no one has yet recreated a flurry of torpedo.

[Sultan]

Science does not stand still .. It is likely that scientists (not only Chinese) are provided with more and more opportunities to design weapons of new types and new capabilities ... Surely this idea also occurred to our designers, therefore I am skeptical about the Chinese miracle submarine. .. The implementation of this type of submarine in metal at the moment is simply utopian. Until. Although not without interest ...

[VICTOR-61]

Well, the Chinese fellows have become largely in the leadership that in sports, how have they advanced, the economy can now be stolen from us in military weapons

[Wedmak]

China has become a leader in language chatter. How Mars has not been colonized yet, I do not understand.

[andrei332809]

what kind of nonsense? or took an example from the Yankees, they also always declare a line than

[Mercenary]

Let’s take a look, I think if it would be so simple our SQUALL has long felled adversary’s boats from 5800 km \ h

[Magic archer]

Question: Well, let's say they will make such an apparatus. Who will control it?! And how!? At this speed, and even under water ... any equipment malfunction threatens the crew with imminent death! And if it is unmanned then it is not a submarine but ultra-fast submarine rocket. In short, more questions and speculations than answers.

[Nychego]

Quote: Magic Archer

... any equipment malfunction threatens the crew with imminent death!

A very quick death ...

[Wedmak]

Well, the problem is okay. Just think, they will dissolve in sea water ... But imagine what a shock wave will follow this boat! Walk along the coast, wash away 100 kilometers deep ALL.

[pensioner]

Good afternoon, Vadim. Also, upon reading, I thought about a shock wave in water when the body moves with the stated speed. And I could not imagine: what would she look like, or something . And further. The motion of a submarine in a continuous medium with such velocities will cause strong vibrations of the shell (submarine shell) with the subsequent development of fatigue cracks. Will the boat collapse from them before it reaches America? Scientists know better, of course. But something, somehow I can’t believe it ...

[Nychego]

Why does a submarine need such speed? After all, it will be extremely simple to detect and, as a result, destroy it: a hypersonic torpedo rocket will be cheaper and faster.
Hiding, this is the most valuable property of a submarine and its advantage over a surface boat, otherwise it makes no sense to go under water.

[Metlik]

If the submarine is already detected, and is attacked by an anti-submarine ship, the speed will allow you to get away from the attack, and it is possible to hide.

For us, this news is rather good than bad. We, unlike America, have always relied on the submarine fleet.

[kompotnenado]

It can be detected only visually, which is problematic at the depths. Sonars are absolutely useless at supersonic speeds.

[Vovanische]

Did the Germans have any waffles there? The Chinese fellows have done even better stomping, though I don’t know how the people will call this tea shop, because, as one famous captain said, .... you name it and it will hang out in the hole.

[serega.fedotov]

Can create and zhebelyat-how to manage it? It’s possible to have hydro acoustics vryatli at such speeds! And optical systems under water are ineffective.
It turns out that he left the port, gave "gas" and pray that neither the whales nor other boats get caught! Although, on the other hand, let's say the carrier of strike weapons may have got to the target in normal mode, shot back and fell at full speed!

[kompotnenado]

On a given trajectory and inertial navigation. Arrived withered, flew away.

[a-cola]

Well, for starters, at least torpedoes with such a speed should be put into service, and then we’ll talk about hypersonic submarines. Something I do not believe ...

[ILYA M]

Well done China. They again slammed our technology, quickly promoted - we invented the pita, now we will wait until our finalize it and then buy 3 copies, copy it, call it TYPE - 200050008 and all the normals. R&D in Chinese.

[the villain]

And in service with this prodigy, go ahead, engineer Garin’s hyperboloid is the main caliber ICBMs, even Chinese ones, can reach the coast of San Francisco much faster and cheaper

[A1L9E4K9S]

The news is from the realm of science fiction, okay, they would say about planes that they have reached light speed, but supersonic underwater for a submarine is a utopia, a fairy tale for young children.

[Kyrgyz]

How much fuel will she need? "Spice" from Dune will run? Cool with what?
It sounds like stupidity, there is no hypersonic missile, but is there a submarine, or is it easier to overcome water resistance in China than air?
Lira walked 75km / h in the 80s, beat this record for a start, even though Lira was very expensive even for the USSR military-industrial complex

[mig31]

America in a trance, I can imagine how the serpent stirs, the psaki should already have information ...

[Mikhail m]

The energy in cavitation is quite acceptable. The greatest danger at high speeds is the collapse of the bubble. It’s going to hit like a concrete wall. The probability of survival is zero.
Let's wait for more details.

[Wedmak]

The energy in cavitation is quite acceptable.

In terms of? A flurry of only 100 m / s can develop. What engine should a boat have?

[Modern19]

A truly worthwhile military development would be classified in such a way that foreign soldiers would know about it only from satellite photographs through the years ... And so ... nothing more than an attempt by the Chinese to make it clear to the rest of the world that they know such a thing as cavitation. Say we are also smart. Flag in their hands. Let them work.

[arane]

it's all true! even the project managers are known - Harry Garrison, Herbert Wells and Kir Bulychev!

[the villain]

Quote: arane

it's all true! even the project managers are known - Harry Garrison, Herbert Wells and Kir Bulychev!

You have unjustly forgotten about science fiction writer Grigory Adamov: his book "The Secret of Two Oceans", which described the Pioneer submarine, Soviet, by the way, with both a rocket engine and a cavitator published back in 1939. Probably some thread China has read

[Cynic]

Quote: Villain

, and with a cavitator

So with the cavitator?
As far as I remember, simple honest steam.

[the villain]

Quote: Cynic

As far as I remember, simple honest steam

And exactly, damn it, the steam was there, your truth.

[demon1978]

Quote: Villain

And exactly, damn it, the steam was there, your truth.

Why didn’t they admit that hemp ??? !!! Didn’t want to shoot ??? So and so already all cut through !!!

[screw cutter]

Where is 5800 km / h? You already decide, in a bubble from the air, then 1200 km / h or in water, but then without a bubble.

[propolsky]

Disinformation, I won’t believe it!

[Ayujak]

I think you can move quickly under water. Remember those unknown underwater objects that at the moment changed their direction and disappeared from sonar at a furious speed. After all, friction has not been canceled. So they moved in some kind of bubbles, or energy shells. People just need to find a way.

[Humpty]

Even the Chinese "invented gunpowder." So the author of this bold idea is worthy of the prize. Berthold Schwartz.

[Gorbtk]

What the hell. How it will maneuver and what will happen if the equipment that creates the bubble fails. And there will be a child prodigy black from the outside, red inside ... And red is pure mincemeat. No options ...

PS: But as a horror story for amers - normal ...

[enot73]

For a start, they would create a simple dizeluha, and wouldn’t make an application until there is no finished iron.

[user1212]

I would not call modern diesel engine simple
Actually, here is the Chinese DEPL: http://lenta.ru/news/2013/02/27/s20/

[enot73]

Quote: user1212

Actually, here is the Chinese DEPL: http://lenta.ru/news/2013/02/27/s20/

Again unfortunately the layout. even the Chinese do not upload photos.

I would not call modern diesel engine simple

Compared to the stated course

[ksv1973]

Oh, these tales, oh, these storytellers ...

[RUSOIVAN]

Bullshit!

[Grigorievich]

The Chinese fanned another bubble 5800km sound speed

[Wedmak]

So hyper or super sonic?

capable of accelerating to the speed of sound - 5800 km / h.

Pi ... ly ...
The following is a test description of our goldfish:

The "goldfish" went on sea trials in 02: 30 on Monday 13 December, but the submariners had no time for superstition, since this was the time of maximum tide. The canal, which went down to the sea, was not designed for an eight-meter draft of an atomic ship.

The submarine was supposed to go at a depth of 100 meters. Horizontal and vertical helmsmen stiffened rigidly at the posts, the autopilot relay snapped. The submarine began to gain speed. In order not to fall, everyone in the central post grabbed hold of items. A rumble rumbled in his ears over the stream of water. It was growing, turning into an airplane crouching roar. Sailors followed the lag and depth gauge counters. The speed gradually increased - 20 nodes, 30 nodes, 42 nodes (77 km / h) under water and with only 80 percent of reactor power. It was a record. Not a single US destroyer was able to overtake the flying K-162 submarine in those distant years. And so the submarine approached the first turning point. The submariners first felt the acceleration and roll like in an airplane. The deck tilted underfoot so that they nearly fell down on the starboard side. Just a little more and the submarine could fall into a real aviation corkscrew with all the sad consequences. Over the cabin was 100 meters. At this time, the devices showed the speed of the 44,7 node, which is equal to the speed of the torpedo.

After the test at the native berths, those who met with difficulty recognized the submarine. Her body has become different. All the paint flew off, the entire titanium case was polished with water, even the welds were smoothed out.

Something I can hardly imagine how and with what the Chinese are going to control supercavitation at a speed of 1200 m / s.

[Nychego]

Quote: Wedmak

even welding seams are smoothed out.

Noble stuffing!

[Argyn]

Yes, it’s obvious that the Chinese trolling, and the people wound up in earnest =)

[Professor]

New? Hypersonic? Their "old" ones do not go out to sea, but here it is ...

[Lindon]

Quote: professor

New? Hypersonic? Their "old" ones do not go out to sea, but here it is ...

Maybe they stole the Flurry technology in Kyrgyzstan from the Dostan plant (formerly named after Lenin)?
A torpedo with a nuclear warhead in the 150 ct could accelerate to 500 km / h.
Around Dostan, the Chinese and Turks have been spinning for a long time.

[Kyrgyz]

Quote: Lindon

Maybe they stole the Flurry technology in Kyrgyzstan from the Dostan plant

Flurry technologies have not been unique for a long time, many have such torpedoes, any more or less technologically developed country can make a cavitating torpedo, but it is smaller than a submarine and has a very limited range, so it is not a fact that it is necessary at its high cost to approach a serious target by 7- 10km is extremely difficult and you can sink barges and the cheaper.

[Wedmak]

Apparently they decided not to suffer with junk, they should immediately master the new.

[Professor]

Quote: Wedmak

Apparently they decided not to suffer with junk, they should immediately master the new.

Yeah, I didn’t succeed in making Zaporozhets, I immediately proceed to the creation of Maybach.

[Mama_Cholli]

In general, this is the approach of Ukrainians ... They are always in the forefront.

[bmv04636]

Good afternoon professor. Soon the Chinese will provide us with a hypersonic underground mole tank.

[Professor]

Quote: bmv04636

Good afternoon professor. Soon the Chinese will provide us with a hypersonic underground mole tank.

It's just that simple. One Chinese man is hiding on one side of the trench, and the other on the other. The first dives into the trench, and the second emerges. And since "all the Chinese are on the same face," the movement of this soldier underground will be carried out at the speed of sound, and even faster.

[rubin6286]

The Germans and the British worked on the creation of a high-speed torpedo and a submarine moving inside the "bubble" at the end of the Second World War. Part of the technical and design documentation came to the USSR. Initially, the idea seems to be quite simple, but during its implementation a lot of accompanying problems arose, which later foreign experts refused to solve. In the Soviet Union, on the contrary, some of the problems were solved. This is how the Shkval torpedo appeared, which is still of some interest in constructive terms. It seems to me that the desire of Chinese designers to create a hypersonic submarine is due to the fact that they probably currently have samples Soviet torpedoes and a corresponding set of technical documentation. The implementation of the principles embodied in the Shkval torpedo seems so tempting that Chinese designers hastened to announce the possibility of even creating a supersonic submarine. It seems to me that their conclusions are hasty. "Oh, how many wonderful discoveries are preparing for us enlightenment spirit and experience - the son of difficult mistakes, and genius - friend of paradoxes!"

[Rock2]

They took the idea from our "Shkval". I am a little familiar with them (at one time I defended my diploma). There is a perspective. It would not hurt our scientists to continue their studies in this direction. If it doesn’t work out with submarines with propulsion devices operating on the same principle, then you can improve the "Shkval" or come up with something new. Not a bad weapon will be against aircraft carrier strike groups or coastal targets.

[Wedmak]

They took the idea from our "Shkval". I am a little familiar with them (at one time I defended my diploma). There is a perspective.

And in more detail it is possible about prospects? At least 200 m / s under water really develop? Though in a bubble, even without a bubble ...

[Caa]

And can you talk more about the prospects? At least 200 m / s under water really develop?

I join with the same question!

[domsony]

The late "Kursk" was just about to demonstrate to the Chinese representatives the aforementioned "Shkval" in action ... They did not give it ...

[Wedmak]

Is it? It seems like they were testing a "thick" torpedo, not a Flurry.

[AUL]

LTD! Das ist fiction!

[Kolorad]

a flurry and that is visible per kilometer. I imagine submarines of this class.

[djtyysq]

One word BLUFF !!!

[mazhnikof.Niko]

Quote: djtyysq

One word BLUFF !!!

Well, then what arose? Come on bluffing ...

[ALABAY45]

And the personnel in it will be ?! I understand that the Chinese sailors are tough and hardy guys and do not have the concept of "outrageous overload" in their official vocabulary, but I think they will obviously get sick in the compartments ...

[Metlik]

Overloads occur when accelerating quickly, braking or maneuvering. The "squall" can only move in a straight line, therefore, most likely, there will be no lateral accelerations.
It remains only to limit the speed at the beginning and end.

[Telakh]

And what is the relationship between the speed of sound in sea water and an object that, in fact, moves in a gas cloud?

[Wedmak]

If the gas cloud collapses, the connection will be the most direct. Boil a small lake is enough.

[Sardykar]

I alone noticed that for some reason the speed of sound here is 5800 km / h?

[Wedmak]

That's right, the speed of sound in water.

[Mama_Cholli]

The speed of sound in air is about 340 m / s - about 1 km / h
In water, it is higher, of the order of 1 m / s - that is, approximately 450 km / h

[traper]

this is the speed of sound in an aquatic environment

[lankrus]

The article reminded a joke of Soviet times.
China dropped an atomic bomb on the USSR, half a million people died.
The USSR dropped a humane rubber bomb on China; half a billion died.
The bomb continues to jump.
Article plus, long since did not laugh.

[Vladivostok]

Why print such nonsense on the site? All is not a yellow press.

[VadimL]

I do not believe. A project, and poorly thought out. The main point of the submarine is secrecy, and a supersonic cavitation boat from the northern hemisphere and off the coast of Antarctica will be heard. In addition, maneuvering such a boat will be very difficult because of the danger of destruction of the cavity (the Soviet torpedo Shkval this problem was observed). This boat will also move almost blindly, since the surface of the cavity prevents the operation of almost any sensors installed on the boat. And the question remains about the braking of the boat. Just disconnecting the cavitator is not an option, since if the cavity disappears at supersonic speed, the effect will be approximately the same as from a collision with a concrete wall.
In a word - a crazy idea.

[Shurale]

So, “Pioneer” was created, but not by us...
I wouldn't be surprised if they implement this...

[shitovmg]

A hydrogen (thermonuclear) torpedo the size of a submarine...

[Veteran of the Red Army]

Now Chinese experts have announced that they have found a way to generate large air bubbles that reduce water friction even in large underwater vehicles. They note that thanks to the new technology, it is possible to create a full-size supercavitation submarine capable of accelerating to the speed of sound - 5800 km/h.

Today we will smile, maybe even laugh.
And tomorrow?

[Mama_Cholli]

And tomorrow we'll take a ride on new Chinese submarines...

pisi: The main thing is to have time to catch on.

[Figvam]

theoretically this is probably possible
if there is a torpedo, then a larger object can be dispersed using such principles
only materials science should give birth to something
and a power plant needs to be developed))
Well, why would the crew be a drone?

[sergant6776]

Quote: Basarev

Fantasy. Even Soviet engineers failed to achieve this. Meanwhile, it was Soviet military technology that was the most advanced. Many are even now breakthrough and revolutionary. What can we say about those times ...

It seems the ENTIRE public of this site is captive of the past...)))) This is sad.
The Chinese have long proven to everyone that it is very dangerous to underestimate them. Perhaps this is chatter, then what is the point. If this is true, then again it’s sad... only for us ((((

[maxxdesign]

this is all in words and in the dreams of the Chinese))) but in reality so far, from underwater, faster than our “squall” there are no analogues in the world... the underwater speed record is still ours

[vvp2412]

Even if we assume that something underwater will develop such a speed, a logical question arises - who will steer? :) This is not air, not space. Even in the air there are problems with a hypersonic missile - the control system does not work. And the rocket reaches such speeds only for a short time.
So, obviously, you're fucking out!

[Mareman Vasilich]

up to the speed of sound – 5800 km/h.

What's this? After all, the speed of sound is an order of magnitude slower. Why write nonsense?

[sergeybulkin]

The thing is good and quite real. BUT! It is very difficult to manage, and it will be disposable.

[Mama_Cholli]

Like everything Chinese, however...

[Nychego]

Quote: Metlik

speed will allow you to evade attacks

The speed increase “from zero to 100500” will not be carried out in five seconds, because the rule is that a submarine detected by an anti-submarine officer, which is almost guaranteed to be an underwater mass grave of its crew, does not stop working.
Creating a weapon to destroy this hyperboat will obviously cost many times less than a boat.

[Metlik]

From the moment the submarine is discovered to the moment it is defeated is also not 5 seconds. But destroying an underwater target that has reached at least 80 km/h is not an easy task.

But you don’t have to go to the bottom and wait for a depth charge to hit you or not.

[Monax]

And how many fish go deaf? Probably from Polokean. The whale family will be completely covered. On the way, the submarine will ram someone. I wonder how they will control, and especially brake? After all, their own wake will catch up with them and, at best, throw them ashore. And in the worst case, it will cover them, that is, the water will crush them.

[Belopolyak]

Complete nonsense. How much dope does it take to overcome resistance? I’m certainly a novice in this area, but I still think it’s simply impossible....they’d rather make the submarine fly than swim like that.

[Homo sapiens]

Well, as my former boss said, this is just talk in favor of the poor. Or best wishes. Well, something like that people shouldn’t get sick, everyone should be happy and rich.... China should overtake and surpass America... I’m actually not against it, but.... Maybe it costs less science fiction for read at night?

[Underwood]

Well done Sinopithecus! There was a kilometer-long aircraft carrier, now an underwater hypersound. Chinese physiologists note an interesting fact: at overloads of 9 g, Chinese submariners' eyes widen.

[zheka]

They note that thanks to new technology, it is possible to create a full-size super-cavitation submarine capable of accelerating to the speed of sound - 5800 km / h.

The speed of sound is 1200 km/h!!!! Even airplanes can’t fly at a speed of 5800 km/h!!!!

[Mama_Cholli]

In an aquatic environment, the speed of sound is higher, so 5 km/h is the speed of sound in water.

pisi: But planes really don’t fly in water...

[Mountain shooter]

Complete nonsense. An airplane in the rarefied environment of the stratosphere reaches speeds half as low with great difficulty. And they are going to push an air bubble through the water at the stated speed.

[Mama_Cholli]

New Chinese hypersonic submarine will be able to reach San Francisco in 100 minutes

pisi: And if you put another 10000 people from the rest shift on the oars along with the watchmen, then you can get very close to the speed of light...
At the same time, 1000 people sitting on the steering wheel provide the boat with unsurpassed maneuverability. For example, a boat has the ability to almost instantly change direction and even make loops, and at the highest point (apogee) the height above sea level is approximately 1/3 of the distance from the earth to the Moon.

[kartalovkolya]

Bullshit, but since when is the speed of sound 5800 km/hour? Yes, the Chinese don’t even have planes with a speed of 3000 km/hour, and a submarine with a speed of 5800 km/hour is already too much, apparently the vigorous weed was born in the “Celestial Empire” this year "!

[meronem]

Just at the speed of sound - namely, 5800 km/h.
The author is probably already dizzy from the coolness of the sensation.

[BOB044]

And the crew are in suits like pilots. How will this three or five storey building reach the USA? At the end of the journey, one foundation will reach. The Chinese love to bend it a little.

[demon184]

This is the first time I hear that the speed of sound = 5800 km/h!!!!

[agfa]

1. Nonsense and no science
2. BREEEEED!!!
3. Movement at hypersound - THIS IS A PLASMA BAG and under WATER???? Morons, they most likely downloaded it from the Stupid resource of the SOFA INTERNET of the Chinese, don’t write any more - it’s the same as discussing TELEPORTATION today.

[basil200]

Here is the finished project

[antey]

Another Chinese noodle

[cerbuk6155]

Very interesting. Conclusions should be drawn from this. And not the distant statements of some people like, this cannot be, this is a joke, nonsense, just recently they were saying the same thing about airplanes, rockets, helicopters, etc. We need to invest more in science so as not to end up with nothing later. And don’t whine later that you thought it wasn’t all true.

[Aleksey888]

Even if so (they did it), the main advantage of a submarine is its stealth. At this speed, there will be no more stealth. An airplane is simpler, cheaper, and at least you can see where you are FLYING.

[doxtop]

just FUCKING FUCKING!!!! No... this is not a “wunderwaffle”, it’s a MEGASUPERwunderwaffle!
And to be honest. I hope the Chinese are generally aware of such concepts as hydro and gas dynamics!?

According to the most conservative and stupid estimates, in order to accelerate a certain body (having a mass no more than a “torpedo” and dimensions comparable to it) to the speeds indicated in the article, it is necessary to simultaneously generate the same power that an average hydroelectric power station produces in a week!
But that’s not even what’s fun! Such power can be developed using “nuclear” technologies. The funny thing is that in order to ensure such a high speed of “flight” in an aquatic environment, you need not only to create a SUPER cavitation bubble... but also to achieve a DARE atmosphere in it with values ​​​​not higher than 0,01.
Apparently the Chinese are already living in the 25th century!

[AleXL-77]

Well, they missed something in this article!!! 5800 (almost five machs!) not even all planes fly at that speed..... and especially under water

[stayer]

Quote: AleXL-77

5800 (almost five machs!) not even all planes fly at that speed..... and especially under water

I’ll say even more than that, airplanes don’t fly at that speed either.

[Thompson]

Quote: master 84

They probably lie or somewhere they stole something. It is interesting to see after its passage that a tsunami or just a storm is created

An oil stain is created)))

[VNP1958PVN]

Well, why don't the Chinese give this boat to ISIS to ride?

[Manul]

And it will be heard right in San Francisco from the start. During those hours (let’s be “realistic” ), while she is rushing, she will be met more than once. It’s not even theoretically suitable for military purposes. Indeed, it’s only suitable for supplying noodles.

[cerbuk6155]

But it’s also interesting, here the majority of people play the game, believe it or not, or think analytically. Of course, I understand that not everyone can calculate several moves ahead, but you’re not children, they don’t believe it.

[doxtop]

Quote: Mareman Vasilich

up to the speed of sound – 5800 km/h.

What's this? After all, the speed of sound is an order of magnitude slower. Why write nonsense?

Google the speed of sound in various media. ;)
Everything is written correctly.

[smershxnumx]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Vandervafle ?!

Yeah, accelerate to hypersound and crash into the shore at full gallop. Or do they have a drogue parachute, sorry, do they have (or will they have) a hyper/duper/super anchor?
Again, the question is - why the hell is this canoe needed if the people in it will not survive the overloads of the start/finish? Or it will be a "drone". Then it's a giant super-duper hyper-torpedo.
In short, this is not applicable in life.

[Mama_Cholli]

The Chinese are great... People, you just didn’t see the whole article...

The submarines will be launched from horizontal shafts left during the development of shale gas using a nuclear explosion or ordinary Chinese firecrackers. Moreover, as Chinese scientists write, the acceleration rate on the initial trajectory can be controlled. Here lies the main secret that Chinese developers are silent about. Firecrackers or nuclear charges will explode directly in front of the boat and evaporate the water. After which the body of the boat will fly in the vapor of the evaporated liquid...

...I almost forgot.
To impart further impetus to the boat's body, super-long oars will be used, which will be able to reach and rest against the unevaporated liquid at a great distance from the hull. The rest is actually a matter of rowing technology for the 20 underwater rowers of the Chinese military fleet.

[Patriot 1]

and the Americans, in response, will invent a time machine and, after the submarine starts moving towards San Francisco, will move time back. And 100 minutes will turn into years))

[Mama_Cholli]

Quote: Patriot 1

and the Americans, in response, will invent a time machine and, after the submarine starts moving towards San Francisco, will move time back. And 100 minutes will turn into years))

I see you prefer to smoke the same as me...+ 100500

[Telakh]

Writing a comment, of course, is easier than thinking about why the article says so.

To begin with, the speed of sound depends on the propagation medium. In sea water, sound is transmitted at a speed of 1500 m/s, if anyone has forgotten school.
The connection between the speed of sound in water and an object moving in a gas cloud is not clear, except for comparison. However, one must understand that, for example, a torpedo moving faster than sound transmission in water cannot be detected from the target side.
The principle of supercavitation, as I understand it, relies on increasing the size of the bubble, which, in turn, will increase the speed of the object. The squall just ran into this problem, and a speed of 500 km/h under water is far from the limit.

It is not possible to move along the surface of the water at such speeds due to the wavy surface. All that remains is flight. In this case, it occurs not above water, but under water. The value of a vessel capable of quickly moving to a given area and remaining there in an underwater state does not need to be explained to anyone, unlike the speed of sound transmission in different environments? Even if this “submarine” is designed for a crew of 2.5 Chinese.

[andj61]

Quote: Telakh

To begin with, the speed of sound depends on the propagation medium. In sea water, sound is transmitted at a speed of 1500 m/s, if anyone has forgotten school.

Well, not really like that.

In clean water, the speed of sound is 1500 m/s. The speed of sound in salty ocean water is also of practical importance. The speed of sound increases in saltier and warmer water. With greater pressure, the speed also increases, that is, the deeper, the greater the speed of sound.
At a temperature of 24 °C, a salinity of 35 ppm and zero depth, the speed of sound is about 1 m/s. At T = 532,3 °C, a depth of 4 m and the same salinity, the speed of sound is 100 m/s

[Landwarrior]

The Chinese comrades read Adamov’s book “The Secret of Two Oceans” and decided to make their own “Pioneer”

[el.krokodil]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Vandervafle ?!

aha

[kind]

At shallow depths such navigation is possible, but at such high speeds, there is a high risk of collision with other ships. At medium and great depths, the gas cavity may collapse due to high pressure; the gas generator will not be able to provide the required volume of gas.

[Dejavu]

"capable of accelerating to the speed of sound - 5800 km/h." I may not be good at physics, but the speed of sound seems to be 1240 km/h.

[Drunya]

Quote: wks

And if we also take into account that this “discovery” is presented through the open press, then most likely there was a serious leak somewhere among the true developers. Most likely ours

This technique was originally developed for the Shakval, a torpedo capable of reaching 230 mph (370 km/h) developed by the Soviet Navy during the Cold War. The bubble size and speed were limited.

http://sploid.gizmodo.com/supersonic-submarine-will-travel-shanghai-san-francisc


o-1626454845/+barrett

if we had a leak it's a pity of course,
but they write - to San Francisco, let them troll the Amerov. a little .
I think this is the original article -
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1580226/shanghai-san-francisco-100-minute
s-chinese-suponic-submarine

[Loginoff]

The rowers will not be able to withstand such a pace!

[Mama_Cholli]

Watch duty is possible, but if you include a resting crew, then...

[el.krokodil]

Quote: spech

mdya Anglican scientists smoke bamboo (while not exhaling)

But where did the Chinese comrades get such grass? smoked quite a bit along the way

[Sailor]

The prototypes have a speed of 5800 km/h in the air, but here in the water. They probably smoked something and discovered a new law of physics.

[special]

They will rivet boats, put those who want to there (there is a lot of population in China) and will ram American ships... And they won’t have time to dodge...
But by and large, it’s some kind of crap...

[The event]

A flurry of dangers awaits the hypersonic object and its crew.
The first thing that comes to mind.
1. there is no guarantee of meeting an obstacle
2. at such a speed, an attempt to maneuver is fraught with overload for the crew
3. there are problems navigating through the water in the bubble

[Orc-xnumx]

Well, well, will this underwater bubble be invisible? I DO NOT BELIEVE!!!

[YARUSSIAN39]

where will they sail on such a boat at such speed?

[Underwood]

Quote: RUSSIAN39

will swim

"swim" is not a completely accurate description.
In Chinese there is a special character to indicate this action.

[dchegrinec]

Accurately noted! With her movement, there can be no talk of conspiracy. You can see such a torpedo a hundred miles away. A wave of 15 points will cover all coastal cities not only in China but also on other continents. A tsunami in Indonesia will hit a kindergarten...