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New Chinese hypersonic submarine will be able to reach San Francisco in 100 minutes

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Chinese scientists have managed to find a way to create a supersonic submarine that can bridge the distance between the PRC and San Francisco in just 100 minutes, reports gearmix.ru. The project of the new submarine was created thanks to new discoveries in the field of supercavitation.

New Chinese hypersonic submarine will be able to reach San Francisco in 100 minutes


Initially, this technique was developed for the Soviet torpedo "Squall", created during the Cold War. It could reach speeds of up to 500 km / h, however restrictions were imposed on the size of the used torpedo bubble and its maximum speed.

Now, Chinese experts have stated that they have found a way to generate large air bubbles that reduce water friction even with large underwater vehicles. They note that thanks to the new technology, you can create a full-size super-cavitation submarine capable of accelerating to the speed of sound.

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  1. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 27 August 2014 10: 10
    +42
    Vandervafle ?!
    1. master 84
      master 84 27 August 2014 10: 13
      +38
      They probably lie or somewhere they stole something. It is interesting to see after its passage that a tsunami or just a storm is created
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 27 August 2014 10: 16
        +16
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Vandervafle ?!

        Quote: master 84
        They probably lie or somewhere they stole something


        And what is the logic of such a prodigy .... torpedo I still understand, but the boat .... bust ..
        1. Andrey from Tver
          Andrey from Tver 27 August 2014 10: 23
          +34
          Quote: vorobey
          And what is the logic of such a prodigy ..

          Consumer goods delivered to America, why else? wassat
          1. demon1978
            demon1978 27 August 2014 10: 31
            +19
            Andrey from Tver (1) RU Today, 10:23 ↑ New
            Quote: vorobey
            And what is the logic of such a prodigy ..
            Consumer goods delivered to America, why else

            100 %%, and Chinese noodles to hang on your ears !!!
            1. stalfal
              stalfal 27 August 2014 10: 55
              +2
              It is no longer suitable for anything) at such a speed to go around a mine is unrealistic.
              1. edge
                edge 27 August 2014 16: 24
                -2
                It is no longer suitable for anything) at such a speed to pass a mine is unrealistic. [/ Quote]
                there is only one sense, as soon as possible to make legs squinting.
            2. edge
              edge 27 August 2014 16: 20
              -2
              100 %%, and Chinese noodles to hang on your ears !!! [/ quote]
              - I did all the wretched things to slam, draw a little and scream to the whole world, -we can also sort of
          2. GDP
            GDP 27 August 2014 12: 00
            +5
            Sound speed - 5800 km / h? RAVE! Or maybe still about 1200 km / h
            among other things, the fastest fighter of the 5 generation of the raptor f 22 is capable of developing a cruising speed of not more than 1826 km / h ....

            In short, complete nonsense! This is due to its weight and size characteristics and limited radius and, as a result, the mass of fuel and the volume of fuel tanks, moreover, to develop such a speed, fly in the upper layers of the troposphere, lower - air density will not allow ...

            If such a boat were really created, then it could fly not much faster than the speed of sound, but most likely much less, only at a very short distance and without any serious weapons

            It is unlikely that she would be able to swim, even to Japan, and even if she swam, she would have nothing to do there ...

            However, the very idea of ​​creating an air bubble on the bow of the boat is interesting. It is possible to speed up for a short distance in order to avoid pursuit or to provide a more economical fuel consumption mode due to better hydrodynamics
            The idea itself is similar to the domestic idea of ​​using plasma to improve the aerodynamic qualities of fighters ...
            1. Evgeniy.
              Evgeniy. 27 August 2014 12: 13
              +5
              Sound speed - 5800 km / h? RAVE! Or maybe still about 1200 km / h
              Of course nonsense! In water, the speed of sound is equal to a wavelength of about 1500 km / h
              1. Wedmak
                Wedmak 27 August 2014 12: 30
                +3
                In water, the speed of sound is equal to a wavelength of about 1500 km / h

                Um ... right? Heretic!!! Shoot!
              2. Pasus
                Pasus 27 August 2014 14: 32
                +1
                is there a massive violation of fundamental physics ????
                ps: for reference, the speed of sound in water at 25 degrees. the target is equal to 1496 M / S (meters per second) emoe, shame!
            2. Wedmak
              Wedmak 27 August 2014 12: 27
              +3
              Sound speed - 5800 km / h? RAVE! Or maybe still about 1200 km / h

              In water, the speed of sound is 1532,3 m / s at a temperature of 24 degrees. In iron 5170 m / s, in fused quartz 5760 m / s. Will you translate it into kilometers per hour?
              The idea itself is similar to the domestic idea of ​​using plasma to improve the aerodynamic qualities of fighters ...

              What does plasma have to do with aerodynamics? It seems that the idea of ​​using plasma was different, namely, a decrease in radio visibility.
              1. Gambit
                Gambit 27 August 2014 12: 50
                +5
                Quote: Wedmak
                What does plasma have to do with aerodynamics? It seems that the idea of ​​using plasma was different, namely, a decrease in radio visibility.

                The relationship is direct - the object inside the plasma formation does not experience any resistance. Radio visibility in this case is a secondary bonus.
                1. GDP
                  GDP 27 August 2014 20: 37
                  0
                  The relationship is direct - the object inside the plasma formation does not experience any resistance. Radio visibility in this case is a secondary bonus.

                  Moreover, the deterioration of the passage of the radio signal through the plasma is also a serious technical problem that seriously interferes with navigation and communication ...
            3. Saratovets
              Saratovets 27 August 2014 12: 47
              0
              under water, the speed of sound is different))
            4. ermolai
              ermolai 27 August 2014 15: 05
              -1
              sound speed 1188km \ hour 330m \ s x 3600sec \ hour = 1188000m \ hour, whence
              Quote: GDP
              Speed ​​of sound - 5800 km / h?
              1. Wedmak
                Wedmak 27 August 2014 15: 12
                0
                You counted the speed in the atmosphere, and we in the water.
          3. Cynic
            Cynic 27 August 2014 13: 06
            +3
            Quote: Andrey from Tver
            Consumer goods delivered to America, why else?

            Yeah, sort of megatons per 100.
            Given the Sakharov idea of ​​undermining a nuclear warhead off the coast of the SGA, this is a very transparent hint.

            Hello man-made nuclear tsunami !!!
            1. Gbanderlog
              Gbanderlog 27 August 2014 14: 14
              +2
              So through the air faster. Although the interception in the water column has not yet been worked out at such speeds, but a trace of such a thing will be visible from the satellite.
            2. bmv04636
              bmv04636 27 August 2014 15: 30
              0
              which can deliver and install the losharik
          4. avg
            avg 27 August 2014 15: 26
            +2
            Yes, which today they just do not create with the help of bubbles, from fake news, to world crises. belay
        2. WKS
          WKS 27 August 2014 10: 29
          +9
          Quote: vorobey
          And what is the logic of such a prodigy .... torpedo I still understand, but the boat .... bust ..

          And if we also take into account that this "discovery" is presented through the open press, then most likely somewhere the true developers had a serious leak. Most likely ours.
        3. Sid.74
          Sid.74 27 August 2014 10: 30
          +3
          Quote: vorobey
          And what is the logic of such a prodigy .... torpedo I still understand, but the boat .... bust ..

          Kamikaze submarine! laughing
        4. andj61
          andj61 27 August 2014 10: 40
          +3
          Quote: vorobey
          And what is the logic of such a prodigy .... torpedo I still understand, but the boat .... bust ..


          Exactly. Immediately I remember the good old Soviet "Shkval". But 100 minutes to San Francisco? This is many times greater speed!
          "Flurry" - Soviet high-speed underwater rocket (torpedo). Designed to defeat surface and underwater targets. It is part of an armament complex deployed on a surface ship, submarine or fixed installation ...
          November 29, 1977 anti-submarine complex "Flurry" was adopted by the Navy of the USSR. Initially carried a nuclear warhead of 150 kt, subsequently created an option with a conventional warhead with autonomous control, without homing.

          A high speed of movement (up to 500 km / h, depending on the density of the aquatic environment) of the torpedo was obtained through the use of an underwater jet engine running on hydroreactive solid fuel, which provides great traction, and the movement of the rocket in the cavitation cavity (air bubble), which reduces water resistance.

          So the principle of operation is exactly the same.
          But something tells me that this is a fake.
        5. armageddon
          armageddon 27 August 2014 10: 54
          +3
          Hmm ... Observing UFOs, the military became convinced of the possibility of such devices ... So do not indiscriminately: Like trusting 100 percent ... This is skeptical of information ... !!!
        6. RusDV
          RusDV 27 August 2014 11: 25
          +2
          Quote: vorobey
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          Vandervafle ?!

          Quote: master 84
          They probably lie or somewhere they stole something


          And what is the logic of such a prodigy .... torpedo I still understand, but the boat .... bust ..


          Logic is only in speed ..... smile It is difficult to dodge the Shkval torpedo due to its speed, the attack takes seconds, but its 600 miles are heard .... That is, for a submarine, this super-noise makes it practically a missile boat - there is zero stealth.
          1. abrakadabre
            abrakadabre 27 August 2014 15: 50
            +3
            Enchanting article !!! Bravo!!! Rzhaka !!! wassat
            Those. for submarines, this super-noisiness makes it almost a missile boat - stealth is zero.
            Well, it’s kind of supersonic wink . Ahead of his own sound type floats, that is, flies. And so she doesn’t care.
            But given the mass of the average shock submarine at ... some 10-20 thousand tons ... In general, it takes energy to accelerate this boat to the declared speed (if supersonic in water, then to ... mmmm ... we put 2 km / sec) not just a lot, but a lot. Those who wish can strain the calculator and count for a vacuum. And even more so in a dense environment like water, the amount of energy needed will increase dramatically.
            The Energy rocket is ten times lighter, and flew in a much more malleable environment, and not much of the structure reached the orbit.
            Since they have such a breakthrough in power plants, isn't it easier to launch 100500-ton space cities into orbit? Or the military Death Stars. After all, no one surpasses.
            Well, or just an ICBM in the dimension and weight of an underwater missile carrier. With this size and speed, she basically doesn't care ANY air defense / missile defense - you can book a rocket like a dreadnought. And in general, a warhead is not required - make it a kinetic blank and grind like a sickly meteorite. The result will be the same as from a vigorous bomb. Just do not fool around with the extraction of radioactive materials, nor with the aging of warheads, or with the contamination of the area after use. Know load warhead at least gravel from the nearest quarry.
        7. flSergius
          flSergius 27 August 2014 11: 35
          0
          And what is the logic of such a prodigy .... torpedo I still understand, but the boat .... bust.


          And what is the logic of the fact that you go to the cottage by car ... to another country on vacation, I still understand, but to the cottage .... bust. The maneuverability and responsiveness of the logic.
          1. shuhartred
            shuhartred 27 August 2014 17: 16
            0
            Quote: flSergius
            And what is the logic of the fact that you go to the country by car

            By car!!! And not on the tank !!! In my opinion, an ekranoplan is many times more effective than such a prodigy. If only, as an option, single-seat submarine fighters. Flew, sunk, fled. All out.
        8. Bkmz
          Bkmz 27 August 2014 12: 40
          0
          But what if the boat has 20 cruise missiles with a nuclear warhead? The technology is useful, whether the Chinese can implement it is another matter. But our engineers cannot relax and need to collaborate with the Chinese around this technology.
        9. mgfly
          mgfly 27 August 2014 14: 37
          0
          as an option - to get away from such a torpedo))
          but in general - this is one of the options for fast covert delivery of percussion instruments (short-range missiles, arctic foxes ...) to the shores of a potential enemy
          1. abrakadabre
            abrakadabre 27 August 2014 15: 59
            +1
            this is one of the fast secretive options
            Secretive? !!!!!
            When moving under water a material body 200-300 meters long, 15-20 meters in diameter (how many nuclear submarines are there) with the stated HIDDEN speed supersonic for water ?! After all, it’s 1.5-2 kilometers per second!
            There will be such tsunamis and noise all over the world ocean! Given the shock front of a supersonic wave in incompressible water, there will be not only tsunamis and sound, but also the seismic component. There, a fish with whales for a couple of thousand kilometers around the route will float up belly. And in San Francisco, seismic sensors will work.
            wassat The article is nonsense shkolota.
        10. edge
          edge 27 August 2014 16: 15
          0
          And what is the logic of such a prodigy .... torpedo I still understand, but the boat .... bust .. [/ quote]
          I wonder how it will be controlled. Americans slammed technology-stealth, chines-flurry ... and screams at the whole world with dropping snot and hand shake, how smart they are
      2. Ataman
        Ataman 27 August 2014 10: 17
        +27
        The main weapon of the boat will be a giant wake trail, like a tsunami washing away everything on the American coast.
        1. insafufa
          insafufa 27 August 2014 10: 25
          +7
          Or friends on opium got hooked as their ancestors have fun lol after expansion laughing consciousnesses
        2. demon1978
          demon1978 27 August 2014 10: 35
          +9
          Ataman SU Today, 10:17 ↑ New
          The main weapon of the boat will be a giant wake trail, like a tsunami washing away everything on the American coast.

          The Japanese ALREADY in ALESA — a couple of circles in a circle of them — and a complete Ambassador to samurai !!! crying
        3. Skiff_spb
          Skiff_spb 27 August 2014 10: 38
          +8
          Yeah. And the route will be like for a starship - + - degree second and entered the rock.
          1. demon1978
            demon1978 27 August 2014 11: 14
            +3
            Skiff_spb RU Today, 10:38 ↑
            Yeah. And the route will be like for a starship - + - degree second and entered the rock.

            You forgot about the TELEPORTATION mode, if things go wrong and go to the next round, the main fuel was enough, although it is most likely on the PEDAL DRIVE, so the number of attempts is UNLIMITED !!! and in the end they WILL ACHIEVE GOALS because by the time of limitation, too, NO-will be reproduced without leaving the pedals !!!! CRUNCH !!!, USE LOST THE CHEF !!!
          2. shuhartred
            shuhartred 27 August 2014 17: 17
            0
            Quote: Skiff_spb
            degree second and entered the rock.

            Imagine what the flaw will be. Cleaner than a nuclear explosion.
      3. Sid.74
        Sid.74 27 August 2014 10: 26
        +11
        They note that thanks to new technology, it is possible to create a full-size super-cavitation submarine capable of accelerating to the speed of sound - 5800 km / h.

        And what will happen to the crew at such a speed? The pressure of the water masses is unlikely to achieve something like this! I think this is a fake! The titanium Soviet submarine K-222 "Goldfish" under the "Anchar" project developed some measly 80 km / h (42 knots).
        And this is a miracle of Chinese engineering, it turns out that it should move through the water at a speed of 3131,75 knots! UFO nervously smokes on the sidelines! winked
        1. volodyk50
          volodyk50 27 August 2014 10: 35
          +5
          And what will happen to the crew at such a speed? The pressure of the water masses is unlikely to achieve something like this! I think this is a fake! The titanium Soviet submarine K-222 "Goldfish" under the "Anchar" project developed some measly 80 km / h (42 knots)

          moreover, she developed these 42 nodes a couple of times during tests, and the sailors on board at that moment told what bricks were put on the b / posts, because she was shaking and clobbering from side to side and up and down incredibly. Moreover, according to the recognition of those he submariners, the boat at that moment was practically uncontrollable.
        2. demon1978
          demon1978 27 August 2014 10: 40
          +2
          Sid.74 (2) RU Today, 10: 26 ↑ New

          And what will happen to the crew at such a speed? The pressure of the water mass is unlikely to achieve something like this! I think it's fake!

          NIFIGA !!!! they have a TELEPORTATION mode there, just write FORGOTTEN (why bother on trifles ??? !!! request )
        3. andj61
          andj61 27 August 2014 10: 44
          +2
          Quote: Sid.74
          And this is a miracle of Chinese engineering, it turns out that it should move through the water at a speed of 3131,75 knots! UFO nervously smokes on the sidelines!

          “Flurry” is a Soviet high-speed underwater missile (torpedo), the speed is only up to 200 knots. Is this submarine 15 times faster? Fake, definitely!
        4. Mama_Cholli
          Mama_Cholli 27 August 2014 11: 08
          +3
          Quote: Sid.74
          They note that thanks to new technology, it is possible to create a full-size super-cavitation submarine capable of accelerating to the speed of sound - 5800 km / h.

          And what will happen to the crew at such a speed? The pressure of the water masses is unlikely to achieve something like this! I think this is a fake! The titanium Soviet submarine K-222 "Goldfish" under the "Anchar" project developed some measly 80 km / h (42 knots).
          And this is a miracle of Chinese engineering, it turns out that it should move through the water at a speed of 3131,75 knots! UFO nervously smokes on the sidelines! winked

          The answer is simple ... The boat will go on autopilot, and the crew will land on its board right off the coast of the United States. Moreover, the carrier of the landing group will be a ballistic missile in the bow of which, instead of warheads, a change house will be installed (with a shower and a TV) for the crew ...
          1. jagdpanzer
            jagdpanzer 27 August 2014 12: 16
            +2
            I think I’ll have to make a brown shape in advance
      4. iConst
        iConst 27 August 2014 10: 29
        +12
        Congratulations to everyone on April 1 on the Chinese calendar ...
        1. iConst
          iConst 27 August 2014 10: 54
          +1
          And the Chinese, it turns out, know how to joke ...
      5. GSH-18
        GSH-18 27 August 2014 10: 35
        0
        Now, Chinese experts said they found a way to generate large air bubbles

        THEY ONLY FOUND THE METHOD (which may not yet be suitable for this purpose)! And here the article was already riveted about something like a ready-made submarine, which can reach syshya in 100 minutes! belay I would like to wish Chinese friends trindet less and do more. So far the situation is reversed.
        1. iConst
          iConst 27 August 2014 12: 32
          +1
          Quote: GSH-18
          THEY ONLY FOUND THE METHOD (which may not yet be suitable for this purpose)!
          According to the same publication, inspired by the first theoretical successes, Chinese scientists began to develop a similar apparatus, but capable of moving underground through magma. Nothing is said about the speed of the device, but according to a representative of the research group "it will be impressive."

          This is a joke...
      6. Scoun
        Scoun 27 August 2014 10: 41
        +2
        Quote: master 84
        They probably lie or somewhere they stole something. It is interesting to see after its passage that a tsunami or just a storm is created

        Yes, she’s just after a hundred miles that the thread will be bummed, well, or at least tormented.
      7. Very old
        Very old 27 August 2014 11: 07
        +2
        It is interesting to compare the numbers: 5 km / h
        Sound speed - tell me, please ..
        But do not IKSuy five mach?

        1224 -!
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 27 August 2014 11: 14
          +2
          For 1 MAX, the speed of sound in the air near the earth is accepted - 1100 km / h. But this is a very approximate value, since it depends on the density of air. But in water, the speed of sound is already 1200 m / s, which is exactly 5800 km / h.
          1. Very old
            Very old 27 August 2014 11: 50
            +1
            DENIS,
            You are about density further. MEDIA is different, plus the speed of creating conditions requires some energy costs
            Isaac Asimov is resting
            1. Wedmak
              Wedmak 27 August 2014 12: 02
              0
              Yes, here all the fantasies of the 20 century rest. In my opinion, none of them thought of such a heresy. Although the depths in 7-10 kilometers plunged easily and routinely.
      8. zeleznijdorojnik
        zeleznijdorojnik 27 August 2014 11: 12
        0
        or somewhere they stole something
        Not just somewhere, but it is completely known where - the Shkval torpedo missile.
      9. inkass_98
        inkass_98 27 August 2014 12: 43
        0
        Quote: master 84
        created by a tsunami or just a storm

        These are questions for science fiction writers. The speed of sound in water is about 5400 km / h (plus or minus salinity, density, etc.). She will not make noise either, apparently. And we will completely leave aside the question of its controllability, maneuvering at a distance of acceleration and braking. And what will the shock wave of transition to supersonic under water look like?
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 27 August 2014 12: 52
          0
          And what will the shock wave of transition to supersonic under water look like?

          Given that the water is practically not compressible, most likely on a steel wall that opens up into a thin bloody suspension of fish and animals, leaving plowed soil at the bottom and ... but what will happen on the surface is very interesting? It’s like the border of two media with a density difference of 800 times.
      10. Cynic
        Cynic 27 August 2014 13: 01
        0
        Quote: master 84
        They probably lie or somewhere they stole something.

        Well, it's not for nothing that "Shkval" was mentioned _

        wink
      11. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 27 August 2014 16: 40
        0
        most likely they brought the theoretical basis for such a project, it’s necessary to report somehow for the loot, but it’s not without reason that after 10 years it’s true they will build and test their capabilities, that is.
    2. volot-voin
      volot-voin 27 August 2014 10: 18
      +1
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Vandervafle ?!

      Something is not believed. UFO Chinese have not yet built? Interestingly, let's say they reached hypersonic speed under water (what’s wrong), then how will they calculate the trajectory? A torpedo squall is one thing, a submarine is another.
      1. Nikolav
        Nikolav 27 August 2014 10: 22
        +1
        And imagine, if true? Aircraft carriers can be scrapped!
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 27 August 2014 10: 28
          +5
          Quote: Nicholas
          And imagine, if true? Aircraft carriers can be scrapped!

          Why, there! You can even send ICBMs to the scrap! wassat
          1. GSH-18
            GSH-18 27 August 2014 10: 40
            +2
            Quote: Sid.74
            Quote: Nicholas
            And imagine, if true? Aircraft carriers can be scrapped!

            Why, there! You can even send ICBMs to the scrap! wassat

            And these boats will be equipped with kamikaze lol
            and one large container of explosives in the bow compartment lol In general, an enlarged (up to impossible) copy of the Soviet "Shkval".
            1. abrakadabre
              abrakadabre 27 August 2014 16: 07
              +2
              and one large container of explosives in the bow compartment
              You can save on explosives. With the mass of the nuclear submarine at 20 thousand tons and the speed in kilometers per second, the kinetic shock action of the boat itself plus the front of the shock wave in the water and the subsequent tsunami from the wake is quite enough. "Cheap" and extremely angry. In addition, no radiation contamination of the area.
              In addition, you can attack not only the coastline. If on the approach to jump out of the water at the right angle, at this speed and mass, air resistance can be neglected and fly a lot into the territory.
      2. Wedmak
        Wedmak 27 August 2014 10: 39
        +1
        Interestingly, let's say they reached hypersonic speed under water (what’s wrong), then how will they calculate the trajectory?

        Calculating something is not a problem, but how to change it?
        1. demon1978
          demon1978 27 August 2014 10: 58
          +4
          Wedmak RU Today, 10:39 ↑ New
          Interestingly, let's say they reached hypersonic speed under water (what’s wrong), then how will they calculate the trajectory?
          Calculating something is not a problem, but how to change it?

          And what for to calculate it, and even more so to change ??? !!! It is just the same in the DIRECTION of California: they should get to ONE from the Americas !!!
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 27 August 2014 11: 12
            +1
            Quote: demon1978
            And what for to calculate it, and even more so to change ??? !!! It is just the same in the DIRECTION of California: they should get to ONE from the Americas !!!

            Something anecdote was remembered about the Soviet metro builders, Well, to the far end you will have two tunnels!

            PS ... To copy someone else’s comment into your post, left-click to select the desired text, and click to quote under the comment!
            It will turn out like that!
            Quote: demon1978
            Well, in California DIRECTION
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            2. demon1978
              demon1978 27 August 2014 11: 32
              +1
              Quote: Sid.74
              PS ... To copy someone else’s comment into your post, left-click to select the desired text, and click to quote under the comment!
              It will turn out like that!


              Thanks for the tip !! hi
          2. Oprychnyk
            Oprychnyk 27 August 2014 17: 38
            +2
            Yes. The question is of course interesting. It is necessary to calculate the trajectory in such a way that it doesn’t catch a single stranger and underwater rock. In short, I get it. Pepelats will be unmanned.
            Or, if you like, something like an underwater ballistic missile.
            1. iConst
              iConst 27 August 2014 17: 45
              +1
              Quote: Oprychnyk
              like an underwater ballistic missile
              However, bent ... belay
    3. a52333
      a52333 27 August 2014 10: 27
      +7
      Chinese scientists have managed to find a way to create a supersonic submarine that can cover the distance between China and San Francisco in just 100 minutes
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 27 August 2014 10: 35
        0
        Fantasy. Even Soviet engineers failed to achieve this. Meanwhile, it was Soviet military technology that was the most advanced. Many are even now breakthrough and revolutionary. What can we say about those times ...
        1. Pajamas
          Pajamas 27 August 2014 11: 01
          +2
          Well, well, first let those 5800 km / h (1,6 km per second) show in the air, imagine the acceleration with which the boat should move and the crew’s overloads, trepachki, any artificial obstacle in the way of such an underwater wunderwaffle and kirdyk, and it should make noise it will be so that you can hear on the moon, and it will also glow like a light bulb and emit steam like a kettle, and the location method in such garbage is interesting, the speed is faster than the acoustics, in general, it will be launched in the direction of North America and California, Mexico or Canada is already how will God give
        2. hoard
          hoard 27 August 2014 11: 14
          +2
          Quote: Basarev
          Even Soviet engineers failed to achieve this. Meanwhile, it was Soviet military technology that was the most advanced.

          The deepest delusion. But before entering the VVMURE them. Popov, I thought so myself))). Moreover, most of the Soviet technologies (including military ones) were "seamless" from the West.
          Quote: Basarev
          Many are even now breakthrough and revolutionary.

          I would say only a few.
          1. Basarev
            Basarev 27 August 2014 12: 01
            0
            Just don’t tell me that the USSR was the most technically backward country, and the USA - the absolute leaders in everything.
            1. hoard
              hoard 27 August 2014 13: 35
              +1
              The USSR as a whole technically lagged behind the West - this is no secret to anyone.
              1. Cynic
                Cynic 27 August 2014 13: 39
                0
                Quote: magot
                The USSR as a whole technically lagged behind the West - this is no secret to anyone.

                Civil sector who argue. Here in the military ...
        3. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 27 August 2014 16: 11
          0
          Even Soviet engineers failed to achieve this.
          Lies! Managed. True, submarines and water have nothing to do with it at all. This is called an ICBM.
      2. Very old
        Very old 27 August 2014 12: 03
        0
        Your cat from the Strategic Missile Forces -?
    4. Wedmak
      Wedmak 27 August 2014 11: 00
      +1
      And let's think, is it really possible to make an underwater object moving at least 500 m / s for at least some long time?
      So it seems to me a kind of "needle" of high elongation with rocket engines, a cavitator on the nose and bubble support elements throughout the body.
      1. demon1978
        demon1978 27 August 2014 11: 20
        0
        Wedmak RU Today, 11:00 ↑ New
        And let's think, is it really possible to make an underwater object moving at least 500 m / s for at least some long time?
        So it seems to me a kind of "needle" of high elongation with rocket engines, a cavitator on the nose and bubble support elements throughout the body.

        Supertanker-tanker in tow, forgotten with methyl-heptyl !!! (if this is a submarine, but not an easy "object")
      2. Demon0n
        Demon0n 27 August 2014 18: 21
        +1
        Quote: Wedmak
        And let's think, is it really possible to make an underwater object moving at least 500 m / s for at least some long time?
        So it seems to me a kind of "needle" of high elongation with rocket engines, a cavitator on the nose and bubble support elements throughout the body.


        Suppose theoretically possible ... However, energetically not beneficial (if at all feasible). The cavitator will no longer be a cavitator, but something resembling a "shaper" of a constant cumulative gas jet for preliminary rupture of the water column. Further, the task is to form a superdense gas envelope (since the water pressure in the boundary layer will be very high).
        I can assume that the theoretical speed of movement, together with the gas density at the interface of the media, is the very theoretical justification ... It is only easier to put the 2nd Moon into orbit (in its entirety) than to create the thrust necessary for this miracle for a sufficiently long time. I will not say anything about materials (which are not), structural strength and a power plant with fuel ...
        A theoretical justification is good, but in practice - you should not wait for implementation ...
        Most likely, someone turned the message about mathematical calculation into a funny joke (funny).
    5. DMB-88
      DMB-88 27 August 2014 11: 08
      0
      The Chinese have not yet come up with anything new in modern science and technology, copying other people's ideas is an accent of China! In the 90s, a lot of technical documentation of the USSR on the latest and most promising developments ended up in China, and industrial espionage greatly helps the Chinese!
    6. mirrorfax
      mirrorfax 27 August 2014 11: 08
      0
      Well, why is the Wonder ... fly. Everything is quite simple. 1500 Chinese, together farting into one pipe, create a bubble, and that there are forces rowed with oars.
    7. Giant thought
      Giant thought 27 August 2014 11: 19
      0
      In any case, this statement of the Chinese deserves a thorough study, such submarines would definitely not hurt us.
      1. MBA78
        MBA78 27 August 2014 11: 47
        0
        in any case, it is good that they want to curb and break through "through the thicknesses and thorns" to the endless expanses of the big ocean ... perhaps this race in the future is given to become amphibians
    8. AVV
      AVV 27 August 2014 16: 13
      +1
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Vandervafle ?!

      It seems that the first of April has already passed, but not for everyone !!!
  2. spech
    spech 27 August 2014 10: 10
    +7
    mdya Anglican scientists smoke bamboo (while not exhaling) wassat
    1. demon1978
      demon1978 27 August 2014 11: 01
      +1
      spech (1) RU Today, 10:10
      mdya Anglican scientists smoke bamboo (while not exhaling)
      100 %%
      Moreover, a very long time. wassat
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 27 August 2014 10: 11
    +11
    With all due respect to China - well, brothers, you turned down.
    1. MBA78
      MBA78 27 August 2014 11: 52
      0
      for starters, it didn’t hurt to study the properties of H2O better
  4. bmv04636
    bmv04636 27 August 2014 10: 12
    +8
    Balls Balls Balls Hypersonic rockets in the air can not fly for a long time and then in the water. What energy should this device have? The Chinese gathered to boil water, or something.
  5. bda
    bda 27 August 2014 10: 12
    +1
    Initially, this technique was developed for the Soviet flurry "Flurry", created during the Cold War

    And what does our science say about this?
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 27 August 2014 10: 37
      +2
      And what does our science say about this?

      I think a finger twirls at the temple.
    2. demon1978
      demon1978 27 August 2014 11: 05
      0
      bda RU Today, 10:12
      Wedmak RU Today, 10:37 ↑ New
      And what does our science say about this?
      I think a finger twirls at the temple.

      No, it doesn’t twist and is silent, it fell into a deep swoon !!! but how else, the basis of the universe to collapse !!! wassat
    3. K-50
      K-50 27 August 2014 11: 42
      +1
      Quote: bda
      And what does our science say about this?

      "And what will the head of the transport department tell us?" (FROM) laughing
      Nonsense, these are the remnants of the burning of opium from Chinese thinkers transmitted by inheritance laughing
    4. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 27 August 2014 16: 15
      +1
      And what does our science say about this?
      Our science says that for some time large meteorites and asteroids can move at such speed in water. As a result of the last recorded such case, dinosaurs became extinct 65 million years ago.
  6. Aslan
    Aslan 27 August 2014 10: 12
    +4
    A copy of the Shkval, only with small compartments for the Chinese crew.
    1. volot-voin
      volot-voin 27 August 2014 10: 21
      +1
      Quote: Aslan
      A copy of the Shkval, only with small compartments for the Chinese crew.

      Disposable, with kamikaze sailors.
    2. kavad
      kavad 27 August 2014 10: 33
      0
      Well yes! They are small. And also like Pelevin - they will cut off his legs!
      1. the villain
        the villain 27 August 2014 16: 57
        0
        Quote: kavad
        And also like Pelevin - they will cut off his legs!

        And they will pedal than what ???
  7. Aibolit
    Aibolit 27 August 2014 10: 12
    +2
    how to slow it down. or kamikaze.
    1. Neighbor
      Neighbor 27 August 2014 10: 16
      +1
      Yes, and controlled in a bubble and at such a speed ... And the satellite will immediately detect.
      1. sso-xnumx
        sso-xnumx 27 August 2014 10: 40
        0
        And I'm about the same. It is not clear which mover will be, direction and depth control (it will tear and twist everything that protrudes from the submarine’s hull), the notch of the cavitation path from the satellite is real, and the noise from the super-cavern should be detected by anyone.
        1. Weniamin
          Weniamin 27 August 2014 10: 56
          +1
          Quote: sso-250659
          Neighbor Today, 10:16 ↑ New
          Yes, and controlled in a bubble and at such a speed ... And the satellite will immediately detect.
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          sso-250659 (1) Today, 10:40 ↑ New
          And I'm about the same. It is not clear which mover will be, direction and depth control (it will tear and twist everything that protrudes from the submarine’s hull), the notch of the cavitation path from the satellite is real, and the noise from the super-cavern should be detected by anyone.

          Judging by the performance characteristics of the "Shkval", this submarine will be absolutely uncontrollable in the main mode. And if on its way there is some kind of underwater bekarasik, then one can imagine what kind of blow will be on the body. If it does not hit, then it will take you away from the course for sure. And there are plenty of animals in the ocean.
  8. svp67
    svp67 27 August 2014 10: 13
    +3
    But I wonder how the noise of this "Chinese miracle"? And what will happen if on the way, suddenly a sandbank or a reef, or maybe a mine, which one will be drawn? Something tells me that they started talking about such a project a bit early ... What will they be armed with? How is Jules-Vernov's "Nautilus" triangular ram?
    1. kompotnenado
      kompotnenado 27 August 2014 10: 41
      0
      There will be nothing with noise. The boat moves at supersonic speed. Arrives at the destination before the sound.
  9. Bombardier
    Bombardier 27 August 2014 10: 14
    +2
    Oh, these tales, oh, these storytellers ....

    To begin with, a torpedo, whatever they would do, and only then they took up a submarine.
    What is the source of information?
  10. pensioner
    pensioner 27 August 2014 10: 14
    +2
    Now, Chinese experts said they found a way to generate large air bubbles
    what And I thought that according to air bubbles, the main experts are mattress-beds ...
    And if on the topic, then I do not believe it. More precisely, theoretically everything is possible. But now, when you start trying to apply this theory to create a specific device - then all the devils get out.
    And even from there, from where you do not expect. So, if such a submarine is possible to create, then very soon. Most likely not in this century. IMHO.
    1. gfs84
      gfs84 27 August 2014 10: 17
      +4
      No mattress covers are great soap bubble specialists ...
    2. volot-voin
      volot-voin 27 August 2014 10: 28
      +2
      Quote: retired
      on air bubbles the main experts mattresses

      By air bubbles, maybe yes, a Hollywood flight to the moon is worth it.
      The main specialists in cavitation in the Russian Federation, no one has yet recreated a flurry of torpedo.
  11. Sultan
    Sultan 27 August 2014 10: 15
    0
    Science does not stand still .. It is likely that scientists (not only Chinese) are provided with more and more opportunities to design weapons of new types and new capabilities ... Surely this idea also occurred to our designers, therefore I am skeptical about the Chinese miracle submarine. .. The implementation of this type of submarine in metal at the moment is simply utopian. Until. Although not without interest ...
  12. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 27 August 2014 10: 15
    +1
    Well, the Chinese fellows have become largely in the leadership that in sports, how have they advanced, the economy can now be stolen from us in military weapons
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 27 August 2014 10: 36
      +2
      China has become a leader in language chatter. How Mars has not been colonized yet, I do not understand.
  13. andrei332809
    andrei332809 27 August 2014 10: 15
    +1
    what kind of nonsense? or took an example from the Yankees, they also always declare a line than
  14. Mercenary
    Mercenary 27 August 2014 10: 15
    0
    Let’s take a look, I think if it would be so simple our SQUALL has long felled adversary’s boats from 5800 km \ h
  15. Magic archer
    Magic archer 27 August 2014 10: 16
    0
    Question: Well, let's say they will make such an apparatus. Who will control it?! And how!? At this speed, and even under water ... any equipment malfunction threatens the crew with imminent death! And if it is unmanned then it is not a submarine but ultra-fast submarine rocket. In short, more questions and speculations than answers.
    1. Nychego
      Nychego 27 August 2014 10: 17
      +1
      Quote: Magic Archer
      ... any equipment malfunction threatens the crew with imminent death!

      A very quick death ...
    2. Wedmak
      Wedmak 27 August 2014 10: 35
      +1
      Well, the problem is okay. Just think, they will dissolve in sea water ... But imagine what a shock wave will follow this boat! Walk along the coast, wash away 100 kilometers deep ALL.
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 27 August 2014 10: 54
        +1
        Good afternoon, Vadim. hi Also, upon reading, I thought about a shock wave in water when the body moves with the stated speed. And I could not imagine: what would she look like, or something what . And further. The motion of a submarine in a continuous medium with such velocities will cause strong vibrations of the shell (submarine shell) with the subsequent development of fatigue cracks. Will the boat collapse from them before it reaches America? Scientists know better, of course. But something, somehow I can’t believe it ...
  16. Nychego
    Nychego 27 August 2014 10: 16
    0
    Why does a submarine need such speed? After all, it will be extremely simple to detect and, as a result, destroy it: a hypersonic torpedo rocket will be cheaper and faster.
    Hiding, this is the most valuable property of a submarine and its advantage over a surface boat, otherwise it makes no sense to go under water.
    1. Metlik
      Metlik 27 August 2014 10: 30
      +1
      If the submarine is already detected, and is attacked by an anti-submarine ship, the speed will allow you to get away from the attack, and it is possible to hide.

      For us, this news is rather good than bad. We, unlike America, have always relied on the submarine fleet.
    2. kompotnenado
      kompotnenado 27 August 2014 10: 45
      0
      It can be detected only visually, which is problematic at the depths. Sonars are absolutely useless at supersonic speeds.
  17. Vovanische
    Vovanische 27 August 2014 10: 16
    +2
    Did the Germans have any waffles there? The Chinese fellows have done even better stomping, though I don’t know how the people will call this tea shop, because, as one famous captain said, .... you name it and it will hang out in the hole.
  18. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov 27 August 2014 10: 16
    0
    Can create and zhebelyat-how to manage it? It’s possible to have hydro acoustics vryatli at such speeds! And optical systems under water are ineffective.
    It turns out that he left the port, gave "gas" and pray that neither the whales nor other boats get caught! Although, on the other hand, let's say the carrier of strike weapons may have got to the target in normal mode, shot back and fell at full speed!
    1. kompotnenado
      kompotnenado 27 August 2014 10: 46
      0
      On a given trajectory and inertial navigation. Arrived withered, flew away.
  19. a-cola
    a-cola 27 August 2014 10: 18
    0
    Well, for starters, at least torpedoes with such a speed should be put into service, and then we’ll talk about hypersonic submarines. Something I do not believe ...
  20. ILYA M
    ILYA M 27 August 2014 10: 18
    +1
    Well done China. They again slammed our technology, quickly promoted - we invented the pita, now we will wait until our finalize it and then buy 3 copies, copy it, call it TYPE - 200050008 and all the normals. R&D in Chinese.
  21. the villain
    the villain 27 August 2014 10: 19
    +1
    And in service with this prodigy, go ahead, engineer Garin’s hyperboloid is the main caliber wassat wassat wassat ICBMs, even Chinese ones, can reach the coast of San Francisco much faster and cheaper laughing laughing laughing
  22. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 27 August 2014 10: 19
    +1
    The news is from the realm of science fiction, okay, they would say about planes that they have reached light speed, but supersonic underwater for a submarine is a utopia, a fairy tale for young children.
  23. Kyrgyz
    Kyrgyz 27 August 2014 10: 20
    +2
    How much fuel will she need? "Spice" from Dune will run? Cool with what?
    It sounds like stupidity, there is no hypersonic missile, but is there a submarine, or is it easier to overcome water resistance in China than air?
    Lira walked 75km / h in the 80s, beat this record for a start, even though Lira was very expensive even for the USSR military-industrial complex
  24. mig31
    mig31 27 August 2014 10: 20
    0
    America in a trance, I can imagine how the serpent stirs, the psaki should already have information ...
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  26. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 27 August 2014 10: 21
    +2
    The energy in cavitation is quite acceptable. The greatest danger at high speeds is the collapse of the bubble. It’s going to hit like a concrete wall. The probability of survival is zero.
    Let's wait for more details.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 27 August 2014 10: 45
      0
      The energy in cavitation is quite acceptable.

      In terms of? A flurry of only 100 m / s can develop. What engine should a boat have?
  27. Modern19
    Modern19 27 August 2014 10: 21
    +1
    A truly worthwhile military development would be classified in such a way that foreign soldiers would know about it only from satellite photographs through the years ... And so ... nothing more than an attempt by the Chinese to make it clear to the rest of the world that they know such a thing as cavitation. Say we are also smart. Flag in their hands. Let them work.
    1. arane
      arane 27 August 2014 10: 29
      +2
      it's all true! even the project managers are known - Harry Garrison, Herbert Wells and Kir Bulychev!
      1. the villain
        the villain 27 August 2014 17: 17
        +1
        Quote: arane
        it's all true! even the project managers are known - Harry Garrison, Herbert Wells and Kir Bulychev!

        You have unjustly forgotten about science fiction writer Grigory Adamov: his book "The Secret of Two Oceans", which described the Pioneer submarine, Soviet, by the way, with both a rocket engine and a cavitator wink published back in 1939. Probably some thread China has read wassat
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 27 August 2014 17: 47
          +1
          Quote: Villain
          , and with a cavitator

          So with the cavitator?
          As far as I remember, simple honest steam.
          hi
          1. the villain
            the villain 27 August 2014 19: 34
            +3
            Quote: Cynic
            As far as I remember, simple honest steam

            And exactly, damn it, the steam was there, your truth. hi
            1. demon1978
              demon1978 27 August 2014 21: 13
              0
              Quote: Villain
              And exactly, damn it, the steam was there, your truth.


              Why didn’t they admit that hemp ??? !!! laughing Didn’t want to shoot ??? bully So and so already all cut through !!!
  28. screw cutter
    screw cutter 27 August 2014 10: 23
    0
    Where is 5800 km / h? You already decide, in a bubble from the air, then 1200 km / h or in water, but then without a bubble.
  29. propolsky
    propolsky 27 August 2014 10: 24
    0
    Disinformation, I won’t believe it! stop
  30. Ayujak
    Ayujak 27 August 2014 10: 24
    +3
    I think you can move quickly under water. Remember those unknown underwater objects that at the moment changed their direction and disappeared from sonar at a furious speed. After all, friction has not been canceled. So they moved in some kind of bubbles, or energy shells. People just need to find a way.
  31. Humpty
    Humpty 27 August 2014 10: 25
    0
    Even the Chinese "invented gunpowder." So the author of this bold idea is worthy of the prize. Berthold Schwartz.
  32. Gorbtk
    Gorbtk 27 August 2014 10: 26
    0
    What the hell. How it will maneuver and what will happen if the equipment that creates the bubble fails. And there will be a child prodigy black from the outside, red inside ... And red is pure mincemeat. No options ...

    PS: But as a horror story for amers - normal ...
  33. enot73
    enot73 27 August 2014 10: 27
    0
    For a start, they would create a simple dizeluha, and wouldn’t make an application until there is no finished iron.
    1. user1212
      user1212 27 August 2014 10: 30
      +1
      I would not call modern diesel engine simple
      Actually, here is the Chinese DEPL: http://lenta.ru/news/2013/02/27/s20/
      1. enot73
        enot73 27 August 2014 10: 56
        0
        Quote: user1212
        Actually, here is the Chinese DEPL: http://lenta.ru/news/2013/02/27/s20/

        Again unfortunately the layout. even the Chinese do not upload photos.
        I would not call modern diesel engine simple
        Compared to the stated course
  34. ksv1973
    ksv1973 27 August 2014 10: 27
    0
    Oh, these tales, oh, these storytellers ...
  35. RUSOIVAN
    RUSOIVAN 27 August 2014 10: 28
    0
    Bullshit!
  36. Grigorievich
    Grigorievich 27 August 2014 10: 30
    0
    The Chinese fanned another bubble lol 5800km sound speed what
  37. Wedmak
    Wedmak 27 August 2014 10: 30
    +1
    So hyper or super sonic?
    capable of accelerating to the speed of sound - 5800 km / h.

    Pi ... ly ...
    The following is a test description of our goldfish:
    The "goldfish" went on sea trials in 02: 30 on Monday 13 December, but the submariners had no time for superstition, since this was the time of maximum tide. The canal, which went down to the sea, was not designed for an eight-meter draft of an atomic ship.

    The submarine was supposed to go at a depth of 100 meters. Horizontal and vertical helmsmen stiffened rigidly at the posts, the autopilot relay snapped. The submarine began to gain speed. In order not to fall, everyone in the central post grabbed hold of items. A rumble rumbled in his ears over the stream of water. It was growing, turning into an airplane crouching roar. Sailors followed the lag and depth gauge counters. The speed gradually increased - 20 nodes, 30 nodes, 42 nodes (77 km / h) under water and with only 80 percent of reactor power. It was a record. Not a single US destroyer was able to overtake the flying K-162 submarine in those distant years. And so the submarine approached the first turning point. The submariners first felt the acceleration and roll like in an airplane. The deck tilted underfoot so that they nearly fell down on the starboard side. Just a little more and the submarine could fall into a real aviation corkscrew with all the sad consequences. Over the cabin was 100 meters. At this time, the devices showed the speed of the 44,7 node, which is equal to the speed of the torpedo.

    After the test at the native berths, those who met with difficulty recognized the submarine. Her body has become different. All the paint flew off, the entire titanium case was polished with water, even the welds were smoothed out.

    Something I can hardly imagine how and with what the Chinese are going to control supercavitation at a speed of 1200 m / s.
    1. Nychego
      Nychego 27 August 2014 10: 49
      0
      Quote: Wedmak
      even welding seams are smoothed out.

      Noble stuffing! smile
    2. Argyn
      Argyn 27 August 2014 10: 51
      +1
      Yes, it’s obvious that the Chinese trolling, and the people wound up in earnest =)
  38. Professor
    Professor 27 August 2014 10: 30
    +2
    New? Hypersonic? Their "old" ones do not go out to sea, but here it is ... wassat
    1. Lindon
      Lindon 27 August 2014 10: 40
      0
      Quote: Professor
      New? Hypersonic? Their "old" ones do not go out to sea, but here it is ... wassat


      Maybe they stole the Flurry technology in Kyrgyzstan from the Dostan plant (formerly named after Lenin)?
      A torpedo with a nuclear warhead in the 150 ct could accelerate to 500 km / h.
      Around Dostan, the Chinese and Turks have been spinning for a long time.
      1. Kyrgyz
        Kyrgyz 27 August 2014 10: 47
        +1
        Quote: Lindon
        Maybe they stole the Flurry technology in Kyrgyzstan from the Dostan plant

        Flurry technologies have not been unique for a long time, many have such torpedoes, any more or less technologically developed country can make a cavitating torpedo, but it is smaller than a submarine and has a very limited range, so it is not a fact that it is necessary at its high cost to approach a serious target by 7- 10km is extremely difficult and you can sink barges and the cheaper.
    2. Wedmak
      Wedmak 27 August 2014 10: 47
      +1
      Apparently they decided not to suffer with junk, they should immediately master the new.
      1. Professor
        Professor 27 August 2014 11: 19
        0
        Quote: Wedmak
        Apparently they decided not to suffer with junk, they should immediately master the new.

        Yeah, I didn’t succeed in making Zaporozhets, I immediately proceed to the creation of Maybach. laughing
        1. Mama_Cholli
          Mama_Cholli 27 August 2014 11: 40
          0
          In general, this is the approach of Ukrainians ... They are always in the forefront.
    3. bmv04636
      bmv04636 27 August 2014 15: 32
      0
      Good afternoon professor. Soon the Chinese will provide us with a hypersonic underground mole tank.
      1. Professor
        Professor 27 August 2014 15: 36
        0
        Quote: bmv04636
        Good afternoon professor. Soon the Chinese will provide us with a hypersonic underground mole tank.

        It's just that simple. One Chinese man is hiding on one side of the trench, and the other on the other. The first dives into the trench, and the second emerges. And since "all the Chinese are on the same face," the movement of this soldier underground will be carried out at the speed of sound, and even faster. wassat
  39. rubin6286
    rubin6286 27 August 2014 10: 31
    +2
    The Germans and the British worked on the creation of a high-speed torpedo and a submarine moving inside the "bubble" at the end of the Second World War. Part of the technical and design documentation came to the USSR. Initially, the idea seems to be quite simple, but during its implementation a lot of accompanying problems arose, which later foreign experts refused to solve. In the Soviet Union, on the contrary, some of the problems were solved. This is how the Shkval torpedo appeared, which is still of some interest in constructive terms. It seems to me that the desire of Chinese designers to create a hypersonic submarine is due to the fact that they probably currently have samples Soviet torpedoes and a corresponding set of technical documentation. The implementation of the principles embodied in the Shkval torpedo seems so tempting that Chinese designers hastened to announce the possibility of even creating a supersonic submarine. It seems to me that their conclusions are hasty. "Oh, how many wonderful discoveries are preparing for us enlightenment spirit and experience - the son of difficult mistakes, and genius - friend of paradoxes!"
  40. Rock2
    Rock2 27 August 2014 10: 32
    +1
    They took the idea from our "Shkval". I am a little familiar with them (at one time I defended my diploma). There is a perspective. It would not hurt our scientists to continue their studies in this direction. If it doesn’t work out with submarines with propulsion devices operating on the same principle, then you can improve the "Shkval" or come up with something new. Not a bad weapon will be against aircraft carrier strike groups or coastal targets.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 27 August 2014 10: 49
      +2
      They took the idea from our "Shkval". I am a little familiar with them (at one time I defended my diploma). There is a perspective.

      And in more detail it is possible about prospects? At least 200 m / s under water really develop? Though in a bubble, even without a bubble ...
      1. Caa
        Caa 27 August 2014 11: 17
        0
        And can you talk more about the prospects? At least 200 m / s under water really develop?


        I join with the same question!
  41. domsony
    domsony 27 August 2014 10: 33
    0
    The late "Kursk" was just about to demonstrate to the Chinese representatives the aforementioned "Shkval" in action ... They did not give it ...
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 27 August 2014 10: 50
      0
      Is it? It seems like they were testing a "thick" torpedo, not a Flurry.
  42. AUL
    AUL 27 August 2014 10: 33
    0
    LTD! Das ist fiction! laughing
  43. Kolorad
    Kolorad 27 August 2014 10: 33
    0
    a flurry and that is visible per kilometer. I imagine submarines of this class.
  44. djtyysq
    djtyysq 27 August 2014 10: 34
    +1
    One word BLUFF !!!
    1. mazhnikof.Niko
      mazhnikof.Niko 27 August 2014 11: 00
      0
      Quote: djtyysq
      One word BLUFF !!!


      Well, then what arose? Come on bluffing ...
  45. ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 27 August 2014 10: 35
    +2
    And the personnel in it will be ?! I understand that the Chinese sailors are tough and hardy guys and do not have the concept of "outrageous overload" in their official vocabulary, but I think they will obviously get sick in the compartments ...
    1. Metlik
      Metlik 27 August 2014 10: 41
      0
      Overloads occur when accelerating quickly, braking or maneuvering. The "squall" can only move in a straight line, therefore, most likely, there will be no lateral accelerations.
      It remains only to limit the speed at the beginning and end.
  46. Telakh
    Telakh 27 August 2014 10: 36
    +1
    And what is the relationship between the speed of sound in sea water and an object that, in fact, moves in a gas cloud?
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 27 August 2014 10: 52
      +1
      If the gas cloud collapses, the connection will be the most direct. Boil a small lake is enough.
  47. Sardykar
    Sardykar 27 August 2014 10: 37
    +1
    I alone noticed that for some reason the speed of sound here is 5800 km / h?
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 27 August 2014 10: 52
      +1
      That's right, the speed of sound in water.
    2. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 27 August 2014 10: 57
      0
      The speed of sound in air is about 340 m / s - about 1 km / h
      In water, it is higher, of the order of 1 m / s - that is, approximately 450 km / h
    3. traper
      traper 27 August 2014 11: 07
      0
      this is the speed of sound in an aquatic environment
  48. lankrus
    lankrus 27 August 2014 10: 38
    +2
    The article reminded a joke of Soviet times.
    China dropped an atomic bomb on the USSR, half a million people died.
    The USSR dropped a humane rubber bomb on China; half a billion died.
    The bomb continues to jump.
    Article plus, long since did not laugh.
  49. Vladivostok
    Vladivostok 27 August 2014 10: 38
    +3
    Why print such nonsense on the site? All is not a yellow press.
  50. VadimL
    VadimL 27 August 2014 10: 39
    +9
    I do not believe. A project, and poorly thought out. The main point of the submarine is secrecy, and a supersonic cavitation boat from the northern hemisphere and off the coast of Antarctica will be heard. In addition, maneuvering such a boat will be very difficult because of the danger of destruction of the cavity (the Soviet torpedo Shkval this problem was observed). This boat will also move almost blindly, since the surface of the cavity prevents the operation of almost any sensors installed on the boat. And the question remains about the braking of the boat. Just disconnecting the cavitator is not an option, since if the cavity disappears at supersonic speed, the effect will be approximately the same as from a collision with a concrete wall.
    In a word - a crazy idea.