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Hello again!

I recently impromptu, on emotions, wrote an article Boy, what country do you live in??, which is posted on our website "Military Review". I did not think that she (the article) would cause such a heated discussion. But, apparently, the people boiled. All readers - my low bow.

Some comments are generally masterpieces of thought. But something still hurt me - rudeness. Simple rudeness, when commenting, clinging to a word or a line from an article, begins to insult the author or other commentator. I do not accept this. I do not care about the minuses and pros, I care about the culture of communication. And here I want to talk a little about it, and not only.

After publishing the article on “VO” the next day, my old friend called me and asked: “Vitalich, is it not you who accidentally squeezed the article about the“ boy ”? Otherwise I read the signature: “major071”, and I don’t know any other such majors. ”

I confirmed the authorship, but I asked where he managed to read it, because the Military Review website is not in his interests. It turned out that the article was separated by various third-party resources (including the website of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, I was in a big "ofige"), and there is a serious discussion.

I decided to run through these sites (who cares, type the title of the article in a search engine) and read the comments. After five minutes of reading, I apologize for the expression, crouched on the fifth point. I’m not talking about everyone, but the percentages of 20-25 expressed to me as the author my big “Foo-y”! And in my face at the same time those who agreed with me.

I did not expect such a flow of negativity, frankly. Well, the young people, as they say, “troll” the author, but then quite adult people, some older than me, were insulted (among which were “stupid cop”, “officer rednecks”, “bribe taker” and for some reason - “ensign” were not the roughest).

I, of course, a man tempered on this account, nevertheless, consider that the Ministry of Internal Affairs gave it almost twenty years, and I didn’t see such “peppers” there, but still jarred on.

And God bless them, with these comments, we have freedom of speech, and everyone can express his opinion, hiding behind some kind of “nickname”! But another problem pops up: those who have negatively reacted to the article think not like us, they have a completely different outlook on life.

I refer to the definition of “us” to sensible people (regardless of age), who understand that at present Russia is on the verge of great changes, and it depends only on us where it goes further: it will pass the threshold and move into the future or make step back into the quagmire of the western world.

Now we can not retreat. Having said “A”, we must and must say “B”, and continue speaking until all the letters of the alphabet are called. And here these people frighten me, these 20-25%, who first in the comments write about everything good from Western life, and then insult Russia and accuse us of everything (I wanted to write “Russians”, but I realized that they themselves will come up with us).

It is no longer a question of education, although it is important, here is a question of information warfare for the minds and souls of the people, but this is already a topic for a separate article, and many authors have written about it.

I apologize for writing so messy, but how it happened.

PS So that there are no questions on the previous article, I will say right away: I did not catch the boy, he was fired a week later for stealing a tablet while unloading the car. Where is he now, I do not know.

PPS People, humans, if you want to write a negative to the author, I ask you, write in a personal. And I feel good, and you are calmer.
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  1. Serge56
    +94
    27 August 2014 09: 04
    Internet, he is like that.
    Spit and forget.
    There, to the site of Mic. Zadornova, take a look - how many evil hiss and a nightmare screech are there for wonderful articles. Dogs bark - the caravan is coming.
    1. +49
      27 August 2014 09: 27
      The article - reflections on the topic that worries our youth now: cola, Pepsi and iPads, was correct. Which I immediately confirmed. But for more than 20 years after the collapse of the USSR, our youth, and other "ages", sang in their ears about the "delights" of life in the West. And now it is "revealed" in the reaction of this category of people to the actions of Russia, and it is necessary to fight against this, to restore the RUSSIAN worldview. Something like this
      1. +72
        27 August 2014 10: 04
        It's not just about youth! The day before yesterday I came across the video "the independence day of ukraine in St. Petersburg" (I can be a little mistaken, but somehow it is called that), I recommend watching! Everything is there, and by the way, far from young people came out to troll people, although there were also young people! I was even enraged not so much by the fact that these scum came out in the center of St. Petersburg with Ukropov symbols, but by the behavior of our cops! None of them even reacted to the open insult to our president! They began to take away when it came to a fight! Moreover, there were no Ukrainians there, except for one guy with a Ukrainian passport, who, by the way, was on our side! In general, I can hardly imagine such a rally or picket anywhere in Kiev! And trying to hang out your fucking blue and yellow rag on a high-rise in Moscow or on a bridge near the Kremlin, how is that ?!
        1. DPZ
          +31
          27 August 2014 10: 27
          I liked the reaction of St. Petersburg. Well done, did not pass by. and a woman in a blue-yellowish rag stopudovo as an instigator must be reproached. ascribe to her some little article of about 7 years old and let her sit - thinks sss.ka
          1. The comment was deleted.
          2. +8
            27 August 2014 10: 40
            About the woman-instigator - http://marina-yudenich.livejournal.com/1222629.html
            1. +19
              27 August 2014 11: 29
              Quote: DMB87
              About the woman-instigator - http://marina-yudenich.livejournal.com/1222629.html

              Natalia Tsymbalova. Coordinator of the Heterosexual Alliance for LGBT Equality. laughing
              1. avg
                +13
                27 August 2014 15: 55
                I think that this rally was not allowed, because I can’t imagine which mayoral official could allow it. Therefore, the cops had to quickly connect the participants, starting with a bloke with a video camera. Once again we rest against their professional unpreparedness.
                As for the yellow-blue woman, then she has a poher for what to rally, it is important that against Russia.
                1. +2
                  28 August 2014 12: 36
                  For more than 20 years, the police have been taught not to get involved with "democratic" vychers. Only you can shake off problems from our justice. The result is obvious. As it turns out now, American cops are not at all as white and fluffy as we have been shown all this time. However, it is too late to rush now. Reflexes are serious stuff. I myself have served for 20 years and I know what I'm talking about.
                  1. Shur
                    0
                    29 August 2014 20: 57
                    But how cheerfully they cling to the "nationalists".
                2. 0
                  28 August 2014 23: 26
                  to Kolyma sssukkkkkkuuuuuuuu .....
                  1. 0
                    29 August 2014 01: 28
                    No need to be so bloodthirsty, you can take a closer look. In sunny Vorkuta, for example. Yes
              2. 0
                29 August 2014 01: 25
                But the Baba Yaga is against, no matter what! .. Such a position will lead, if not to the zugunder, but to the psychiatric hospital.
          3. +24
            27 August 2014 10: 43
            For DPZ. Me from this bitch painted, through the monitor screen telepol, would not be there could not resist! This rag in which she wrapped herself would have pushed her in one place! In general, Peter is certainly a tolerant city, they would try to create these things in Rostov, they would kill, and the cops would not save!
            1. +17
              27 August 2014 10: 57
              Quote: Varyag_1973
              They would try to create these creatures in Rostov, they would kill, and the cops would not save!


              Well, killing so rude ... There are so many things to do in Russia where these trash can be sent for occupational therapy.
              1. +7
                27 August 2014 11: 06
                land reclamation in Taimyr can be done; or Siberian rivers to Central Asia turn
                1. +12
                  27 August 2014 14: 58
                  God forbid! No need to turn our rivers anywhere. stop
                  1. +3
                    28 August 2014 23: 28
                    it is necessary to protect the Russian nature - she is our mother ..................
                2. +9
                  27 August 2014 16: 56
                  Rivers are not needed, they will come in handy, and runways, ports in the Arctic are just right.
              2. rodevaan
                +48
                27 August 2014 12: 01
                Now we can not retreat. Having said “A”, we must and must say “B”, and continue speaking until all the letters of the alphabet are called. And here these people frighten me, these 20-25%, who first in the comments write about everything good from Western life, and then insult Russia and accuse us of everything (I wanted to write “Russians”, but I realized that they themselves will come up with us).

                - Major, do you know what I will tell you? What do you think, all that pro-Western garbage that our favorite zombies have been stuffed every day by "daragikh raseyan panimash" for the slaughter for 20 years - did you think that it would pass like this, simply and without a trace?
                Dr. Goebbels was undoubtedly right that "Give me the media and I will make a herd of pigs from any society" ... Absolutely real, and 100% works. And as an obvious result - the reaction of zombies to your article, who are still confident that "the West will help us." You will be very surprised, but such specimens in our country still remain in huge numbers. (For this special "thanks" to the modern magazines of the 90s, diligently denigrating the word "patriotism", "people" and "Motherland"). Let me give you an example - in the dashing 90s, being a student of grades 7-10, EVERYONE laughed at me for my patriotic statements. Like, man, - you are not modern, nowadays it is fashionable to wear a baseball cap and say "Ok and wow!" Personally, I was always only sick of all this foreign superficial muck. Now, thank God, this disease has long begun to pass among the people ... Although then I do not exclude - for the Zapadoid and NATO - in the 90s there was the best moment for an attack on Russia. I can confidently say 100% that from my entourage, from the class, from friends and acquaintances, I alone would have sat in a trench with an ATRD, the rest would have run to surrender and prostrate themselves in front of Pin before, or rather, not even from the entrance would not come out.

                2. Next, do not forget - in the country there are imbeciles who really believe that we are a great people - who live in a vast territory, which has a rich history, which has a powerful army and huge potential - should live in a West-like patterns. That we are not a separate, our own civilization, but part (and far from leading) of the West-shaped general human community .... They still seriously believe that the Zapadoids are the holy measure of human civilization, because they put merchandise, the dough cult at the forefront and selfish stomach. And you can not prove to these nerds that loot, stomach and democracy (that is, the absolute power of the strong) is far from the only thing for which man and society live.

                Therefore, major, take these idiots calmly. The Russian man is not like that, our mentality is not like that, and all this alluvial Western MODEL OF BEHAVIOR is just a temporary fogging of the brain of a Russian person who is already beginning to pass and disappear from our society. The Russian people themselves will be cleansed of foreign and alien elements. It has always been and always will be.
                1. +5
                  27 August 2014 12: 53
                  Society has always been heterogeneous, and this heterogeneity to one degree or another determines the internal state of the state, enemies have always used and use it. The ideological, propaganda war is just designed to cultivate opposition anti-patriotic thinking among the masses, this is especially dangerous in times of global change. After all, the February and then the October revolutions would not have happened under a single cohesive society, there would have been no justification for this, because at the beginning of the 1st World War it was impossible to imagine all the horror of subsequent events. The people in a single impulse were ready to smash the adversary, the authority of the imperial family was as high as ever. And what happened to society? The result is that the royal family was destroyed, the country changed and went in a completely different way. And this despite all the great past and ancient traditions. Conclusion: self-cleaning is too abstract and inaccurate term - patriotism must be fought in all possible ways, there must be a system, but for this need support at the state, government level and not in words but in deeds. If you look back at the USSR, it can be argued that such a system was and worked, but not without flaws, but it was. There is nothing perfect in the world and there is no limit to perfection; the main thing is to have an idea.
                  1. +4
                    27 August 2014 13: 11
                    Close-knit society was only workers of factories. I mean the workers. And the peasants - the bulk of the population at that time, the revolution found itself aback.
                  2. rodevaan
                    +2
                    28 August 2014 01: 22
                    - That's right. Such a system should be, and even more so with us, in 1/6 of the land, on which enemies have always rooted and will roar. And society should be well aware that a peaceful sky above their heads is ensured precisely by their (public) attitude towards their country and their external environment. And a lot depends on them, on the position of citizens. Of course, the state is obliged to educate society, this is even without question. It was in the USSR, and the 5th column was sitting offshore (I don’t take the 80s), the dermocracy came in the 90s and we almost lost a piece of the country ...
                2. -2
                  28 August 2014 10: 42
                  It's bad that this fogging continues on "our" channels ...
                3. +1
                  28 August 2014 20: 41
                  quote = rodevaan]Now we can not retreat. Having said “A”, we must and must say “B”, and continue speaking until all the letters of the alphabet are called. And here these people frighten me, these 20-25%, who first in the comments write about everything good from Western life, and then insult Russia and accuse us of everything (I wanted to write “Russians”, but I realized that they themselves will come up with us).

                  - Major, do you know what I will tell you? What do you think, all that pro-Western garbage that our favorite zombies have been stuffed every day by "daragikh raseyan panimash" for the slaughter for 20 years - did you think that it would pass like this, simply and without a trace?
                  Dr. Goebbels was undoubtedly right that "Give me the media and I will make a herd of pigs from any society" ... Absolutely real, and 100% works. And as an obvious result - the reaction of zombies to your article, who are still confident that "the West will help us." You will be very surprised, but such specimens in our country still remain in huge numbers. (For this special "thanks" to the modern magazines of the 90s, diligently denigrating the word "patriotism", "people" and "Motherland"). Let me give you an example - in the dashing 90s, being a student of grades 7-10, EVERYONE laughed at me for my patriotic statements. Like, man, - you are not modern, nowadays it is fashionable to wear a baseball cap and say "Ok and wow!" Personally, I was always only sick of all this foreign superficial muck. Now, thank God, this disease has long begun to pass among the people ... Although then I do not exclude - for the Zapadoid and NATO - in the 90s there was the best moment for an attack on Russia. I can confidently say 100% that from my entourage, from the class, from friends and acquaintances, I alone would have sat in a trench with an ATRD, the rest would have run to surrender and prostrate themselves in front of Pin before, or rather, not even from the entrance would not come out.

                  2. Next, do not forget - in the country there are imbeciles who really believe that we are a great people - who live in a vast territory, which has a rich history, which has a powerful army and huge potential - should live in a West-like patterns. That we are not a separate, our own civilization, but part (and far from leading) of the West-shaped general human community .... They still seriously believe that the Zapadoids are the holy measure of human civilization, because they put merchandise, the dough cult at the forefront and selfish stomach. And you can not prove to these nerds that loot, stomach and democracy (that is, the absolute power of the strong) is far from the only thing for which man and society live.

                  Therefore, major, take these idiots calmly. The Russian man is not like that, our mentality is not like that, and all this alluvial Western MODEL OF BEHAVIOR is just a temporary fogging of the brain of a Russian person who is already beginning to pass and disappear from our society. The Russian people themselves will be cleansed of foreign and alien elements. So it was and always will be. [/ Quote]

                  Yes, at least Crimea. There, young people, for the most part, voted for Russia - they had already made money in Ukraine, and they themselves understood the unviability of the Ukrainian state. And the West has already fallen in the eyes of Russians for a long time - the rating of Western countries has fallen sharply after the NATO attack on a peaceful European country - Yugoslavia. After that, the West failed to rehabilitate itself in the eyes of Russian society, having seen the poisonous fangs of NATO, we will never be able to think anything good about it, and I congratulate you on this. By the way, I myself used to think that the USA was a good and good country, but when I studied the history of US conflicts and the reasons why the USA started wars, I understood how I was mistaken. Now the poison of the West is not terrible for me - I and most of our people have immunity. That is why the Maidan (Manezh 2.0) did not take place in Russia, and it was prepared like that - the Russians are no longer used for fighting for slaughter by the West - we have our own way.
                4. +1
                  28 August 2014 21: 01
                  Quote: miv110
                  Society has always been heterogeneous, and this heterogeneity to one degree or another determines the internal state of the state, enemies have always used and use it. The ideological, propaganda war is just designed to cultivate opposition anti-patriotic thinking among the masses, this is especially dangerous in times of global change. After all, the February and then the October revolutions would not have happened under a single cohesive society, there would have been no justification for this, because at the beginning of the 1st World War it was impossible to imagine all the horror of subsequent events. The people in a single impulse were ready to smash the adversary, the authority of the imperial family was as high as ever. And what happened to society? The result is that the royal family was destroyed, the country changed and went in a completely different way. And this despite all the great past and ancient traditions. Conclusion: self-cleaning is too abstract and inaccurate term - patriotism must be fought in all possible ways, there must be a system, but for this need support at the state, government level and not in words but in deeds. If you look back at the USSR, it can be argued that such a system was and worked, but not without flaws, but it was. There is nothing perfect in the world and there is no limit to perfection; the main thing is to have an idea.





                  Yes, at least Crimea. There, young people, for the most part, voted for Russia - they had already made money in Ukraine, and they themselves understood the unviability of the Ukrainian state. And the West has already fallen in the eyes of Russians for a long time - the rating of Western countries has fallen sharply after the NATO attack on a peaceful European country - Yugoslavia. After that, the West failed to rehabilitate itself in the eyes of Russian society, having seen the poisonous fangs of NATO, we will never be able to think anything good about it, and I congratulate you on this. By the way, I myself used to think that the USA was a good and good country, but when I studied the history of US conflicts and the reasons why the USA started wars, I understood how I was mistaken. Now the poison of the West is not terrible for me - I and most of our people have immunity. That is why the Maidan (Manezh 2.0) did not take place in Russia, and it was prepared like that - the Russians are no longer used for fighting for slaughter by the West - we have our own way. Well, in general, there are almost no such imbeciles in our country, and those that are able to only spoil the Internet, and they will be translated.

                  I wanted to add it here.
                  Here is an interesting article on the failure of Maidan in Russia:
                  http://topwar.ru/page,1,2,48242-k-provalu-maydana-na-manezhke-kak-my-vdrug-povzr
                  osleli-i-kogo-za-eto-blagodarit.html
                5. 0
                  29 August 2014 01: 21
                  Right. Remember how they ate chewing gum in the 90s! Chewing gum was everywhere: in the mouth, at the entrance, on benches, on the walls. Wherever you look, everyone chews, or even bubbles blow. And where is it now?
                6. Shur
                  0
                  29 August 2014 21: 05
                  Yes, yes patterns from feces. If you do not try to prevent all these creeps, then this will not work. It is necessary to treat them not only by persuasion, but simply by force. Whether we want to or not, it is healthy to separate from the patient. It will not become easier, but the disease will go into a tumor and then there will be a struggle for either-or. But not today and not tomorrow.
                7. OpForSoldier
                  0
                  31 August 2014 04: 11
                  Patriotism became a curse word

                  Not because of the magazine whores. And because of the people who sold brains for Putinka. Most of all I am saddened by the Russian people that they stop simply thinking. Do you want to be "western" - your opinion is over there, on the left. Do you want to be a "patriot" - on the right, hold it. People just forgot how to think critically. Although, in defense of my native nation, I will say that the same Americans did not know how.
              3. Shur
                0
                29 August 2014 20: 59
                Against the background of the consequences of such "parades", society can "kill". Defensive reaction to svidomitov.
            2. +3
              27 August 2014 22: 12
              Quote: Varyag_1973
              They would try to create these creatures in Rostov, they would kill, and the cops would not save!

              Rostov - respect. Drive them to the KUBAN, we will meet with dignity!
            3. 0
              28 August 2014 23: 27
              I agree one hundred percent .....
          4. 0
            28 August 2014 17: 07
            Big handsome, he dropped the "glory of Ukraine"))) FOR GDP and Russia, they all had to be dropped there)))
          5. 0
            28 August 2014 17: 13
            Big handsome, he dropped the "glory of Ukraine"))) FOR GDP and Russia, they all had to be dropped there)))
          6. 0
            28 August 2014 17: 14
            Big handsome, he dropped the "glory of Ukraine"))) FOR GDP and Russia, they all had to be dropped there))) Let them jump in Kiev
        2. Dim
          +6
          27 August 2014 12: 01
          Yes, the upbringing of patriotism in our country is now a big problem. Remember how it was before: October, pioneer, communist (childhood, adolescence, adulthood). That is, a person was almost constantly taught to love his homeland. What now? Only childhood is less covered (all the same, they work at least a little with this at school (though not enough), in my opinion they have beaten this for a long time, and I generally am silent about adulthood (can anyone remember that he would be instilled with love at work to the homeland ?. So these (as it would be more decent to say) subhumans are obtained.
          1. +5
            27 August 2014 12: 35
            Quote: Dim Sum
            Less childhood only

            And that is only mainly due to the strength and money of parents.
            And the main problem is, as it is not strange, in the absence of IDEOLOGY! There is none! There used to be religion, monarchism, communism at last. What now? what is needed and what is modern man striving for in our time? 99% - money, pleasure, comfort, grub, etc. You can teach a money lover patriotism only with money, but what kind of patriotism will it be?
            Yes, there are people and young people who care, who strive for something more, but this is very poorly supported at the state level.
            For example, taking money from the bank to open a shop-a-wine-shop-tire fitting and so on is not a problem, but you don't even have to try to go to a non-profit art school. It is necessary to revive the culture from 2-3 years old and a certain number of generations have already been lost. The result of turning "backwards" to children and their cultivation is evident in our "magic" neighboring neighbors. Although the climate there may be?
          2. 0
            28 August 2014 21: 09
            Let me disagree with you. Only in kindergarten they talk about it. The school has not even thought about it for a long time. Now there are no teachers in schools, there are only teachers. Hence the result. And the West introduced into the consciousness of our youth that hypocrisy, deceit, lies, ignorance, etc. these are quite normal human manifestations.
        3. rodevaan
          +11
          27 August 2014 12: 26
          Quote: Varyag_1973
          It's not just about youth! The day before yesterday I came across the video "the independence day of ukraine in St. Petersburg" (I can be a little mistaken, but somehow it is called that), I recommend watching! Everything is there, and by the way, far from young people came out to troll people, although there were also young people! I was even enraged not so much by the fact that these scum came out in the center of St. Petersburg with Ukropov symbols, but by the behavior of our cops! None of them even reacted to the open insult to our president! They began to take away when it came to a fight! Moreover, there were no Ukrainians there, except for one guy with a Ukrainian passport, who, by the way, was on our side! In general, I can hardly imagine such a rally or picket anywhere in Kiev! And trying to hang out your fucking blue and yellow rag on a high-rise in Moscow or on a bridge near the Kremlin, how is that ?!


          - Varangian - why are you surprised at that?)) I’ll tell you a banal and very scary thing - you look at the Ukrainian pravosek! You look at the idiots jumping around there! Now tell me - how many real Ukrainians are there? Well, those natural Svidomo classic ukrov 10 knee ??? How many will you find there? God grant if at least 5%.
          The rest of the crowd is ours, but the same people who speak Russian, think Russian, swear, and drink Russian. Only unlike us — those Russians suddenly decided to become sharply ukraine and sharply become Russophobia. Question - why? The mass of reasons - the first, is that they already live in another state, although Russian. And if so, then it is necessary to support the policy of this state, even if it is rotten and Russophobic (ideologists and sponsors are sitting overseas). The second is the complex! Inferiority complex. The complex of the fact that in Great Russia they no longer exist, but somehow it is necessary to bulge out. Here are the attempts to dig the Black Sea, the construction of the Pyramids and the design of the Great Wall of China, and other sviromo-Svidomo nonsense.
          So, the Varangian - all these Ukrainians - are yesterday’s priests who suddenly became abruptly svidomo and schir ...
          1. +2
            27 August 2014 12: 48
            rodevaan

            Totally agree with you.

            Confirmation of what you are talking about, citing the events in Ukraine as an example, is very well formulated in the article on this site "Ukrainization was carried out tediously and for a long time" dated 25.08.2014 about the Kuban Cossacks and "Svidomo Ukrainians".
          2. +1
            27 August 2014 22: 25
            Quote: rodevaan
            The rest of the crowd is ours, but the same people who speak Russian, think Russian, swear, and drink Russian. Only unlike us — those Russians suddenly decided to become sharply ukraine and sharply become Russophobia. Question - why? The mass of reasons - the first, is that they already live in another state, although Russian. And if so, then it is necessary to support the policy of this state, even if it is rotten and Russophobic (ideologists and sponsors are sitting overseas). The second is the complex! Inferiority complex. The complex of the fact that in Great Russia they no longer be,

            Totally for. Somehow laid out, but I repeat. From correspondence with a fellow soldier from KHARKOV:
            - "If you hate" Nazis ", then write me there (Russian was born in Oryol), my wife, a Muscovite from Nizhny Novgorod, who truly prays for Ukrainian soldiers, my friends and relatives every evening (except my mother is a "vialikarutskay chauvinist" who hates everything Ukrainian at the genetic level.) My wife has lived here since 1992, and since Crimea has been constantly asking the question “when will the matskalnu be overrun?" So she is a Nazi worse than me. Olya's girlfriend, who is from the Voronezh region, has been in Ukraine for a long time and is also a Nazi, and Sveta's girlfriend, whose parents are in Matskve, also turned out to be a Ukrainian Nazi-Nazi.
            So these are the pies ....
            1. rodevaan
              +1
              28 August 2014 01: 28
              Quote: Region 23
              . From correspondence with a fellow soldier from KHARKOV:


              - Here it is ... And there are a lot of such people and in my environment! Some, by the way, in Makeevka, almost all were born and raised in Russia, then moved to the Donbass - and where did that go! Suddenly abruptly slanted and conceived.
              You watch private videos of all this schiro-kats apsky bacchanalia, and think where the Russian people are going? What abyss?
              I look at Ukraine now and see Russia 93-95 years.
              1. +3
                28 August 2014 14: 05
                The most curious thing is that this happens to people who moved to Ukraine somewhere from the beginning of the 90s, maybe the end of the 80s. I myself was born and raised in Uzbekistan, studied at a university in St. Petersburg, I had to move to Russia in 1992. It was so hard that I don't want to remember! Negative in relation to herself - "come in large numbers", I had to sip a lot. BUT! Now this is my HOMELAND - RUSSIA !!! And at that moment she was just sick, hard, as can happen to anyone. I am not a blind patriot, I see all the negatives and blunders of our government. BUT I want to believe that such concepts as devotion to their roots, their faith and just decency are still alive. I am forever engraved in my memory one phrase said by my friend's mother (a sincere believer): "Remember God created us different, and the devil strives to make us the same." Right now in Ukraine this is happening, isn't “whoever rides, that one” not from this opera?
        4. +7
          27 August 2014 14: 48
          Quote: Varyag_1973
          It's not just about youth! The day before yesterday I came across the video "the independence day of ukraine in St. Petersburg" (I can be a little mistaken, but somehow it is called that), I recommend watching!

          Alexey, I looked and, to put it mildly, oh..l. "Fascists" are shouting in the face of these creatures, and they don't even mind much. And this is in SUCH city !!! The head of the St. Petersburg police and his subordinates, who appeared in this video, should at least be fired, or even imprisoned for their carelessness. Bandera, that is to say, the fascist "glory to heroes, glory to heroes" is loudly heard on the streets of the martyr city. If I am not mistaken, this is direct propaganda of Nazism. Anyone who opened their mouths to utter this nasty thing should be sentenced to the maximum term.
          Thank you, Alexei, for the tip on this video. Good luck hi
          1. +1
            27 August 2014 22: 29
            Quote: ksv1973
            The head of the St. Petersburg police and his subordinates, appearing in this video, must be fired at least, or even imprisoned for their gouging.

            “You went crazy here!” cried Wrigl in exasperation. - Who is Handsome, do you think? Huh? .. Handsome is a famous person! Everyone knows the handsome. Handsome is a millionaire! Half of the police was bribed by Handsome, and tomorrow, if he wants, he will buy us all with all our giblets ... And who is this? - Wrigl continues to shout, pointing to Dunno. “Who is he, I ask!” Who knows? What did he do? .. Have lunch for free? So for it him here? And he only needs it here, you kind of fool! Here he is warm and light, and fleas do not bite. He only dreams of getting into jail as soon as possible and starting to eat around the police! This is not a real criminal, but a chantrap with empty pockets. What can you get from him when he doesn’t even have money for lunch? ”
            (Dunno on the Moon).
        5. +3
          27 August 2014 14: 53
          So it turns out ... there is no war between us? No. This means that there is allegedly no political implication in the hanging of the symbols of a state-like entity with the name "Ukraine", and there is also no ban on holding actions in support of this entity (if permission is agreed). It is another matter if these actions are carried out with violations, or calls are made to incite interethnic hatred and enmity, public insults to various officials and employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs during execution, vandalism, etc. etc. Then such persons should be detained / punished, and in order not to miss the violation, their actions should be watched. It's not worth hitting their muzzles just like that for being there or hanging some rag somewhere (although they want to), they are waiting for this to have a quarrel, squabble, scandal ... they had soil under their feet, there was what to wear on Twitter and Facebook, this is pure trolling. The best thing is not to pay any attention to them, not to "feed" the trolls. I repeat, the competent authorities must observe and respond, they receive a salary for this.
        6. +4
          27 August 2014 17: 35
          Quote: Varyag_1973
          It infuriated me not so much the fact that these freaks appeared in the center of St. Petersburg with dill symbols, but the behavior of our cops! None of them even reacted to the open insult of our president!

          And you look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhIWE-n7cww#t=197 and you will understand that there are "agents" at the height of oh, how many, and it is no longer necessary to send Stalin but STALIN to weed the beds there to Olympus Understand the men that the "maidan" is already bringing you myaginko unstably but confidently!
        7. +1
          27 August 2014 20: 24
          Quote: Varyag_1973
          The day before yesterday I came across the video "Independence Day of Ukraine in St. Petersburg

          Looked. Looked another vidos "Slaughterhouse in St. Petersburg - Independence Day of Ukraine". In the foreground is the "main" p.e.f.a.s.t. Peter. Kudazh S ... Oh, without him, redhead bastards!
        8. +1
          28 August 2014 13: 43
          And this is only the beginning, or rather the continuation of the clearly "swamp" origin! How much does the US spend on the development of democracy and liberalism in Russia? It is not known, but corrupt people were at all times and every nation. I think now you can not remain indifferent, this is the worst of all. Why do those who disagree find it possible to hold such actions, but we silently pass by? Yes, and we have corruption and theft flourishing, but we are not alone - a fresh example of the scandal at the IMF Lagarde and Tapi, but this is not a reason to "drown" your homeland.
        9. 0
          28 August 2014 18: 06
          But as the people reacted, I think you noticed and the police acted quite correctly .... I personally liked the reaction of the people. They behaved very correctly, although it was clear that their hands were scratched. I would definitely not have restrained in their place.
        10. 0
          29 August 2014 19: 08
          I also watched this video ... I want to say one thing ... it's more convenient for me to watch from Riga from the side ... and I agree with you that the police were some kind of amorphous indifferent ... which really surprised! There, a lady with a flag draped over her shoulders in Riga also organized such a "booze" at the Russian Embassy ... Most likely this lady is just a professional provocateur! But in Riga, the police quickly put this lady in place and dismissed the rally ..
        11. Shur
          0
          29 August 2014 20: 55
          About the fact that Russia is closer to the Urals, and not Moscow and St. Petersburg. In the future, this split will become even worse. Moscow will be a Europe and everything connected with it will be there. This is a defeat after infection. And we will go north. They promised warming.
      2. +11
        27 August 2014 10: 42
        V.I.Dal - Proverbs and sayings (favorites):

        Everything is new, but when is it right?
        Cut a new caftan, and try on the old one!
        Our grandfathers lived simply, yes, about a hundred years, and we are fifty, and even then become a dog.
        He climbed into wealth - and forgot the brotherhood.
        Smooth and disgusting, and ripples and God's servant.
        Without faith, God will not deliver, without truth, God will not correct.
        To refuse from God - to adhere to Satan.
        Listen, people, this is damn yelling. (Media and glamorous party)

        With a kind word, the homeless is rich.
        The sun will rise and to us in the yard.
      3. rodevaan
        +1
        27 August 2014 12: 18
        Quote: xenod55
        And now it is "revealed" in the reaction of this category of people to the actions of Russia, and it is necessary to fight against this, to restore the RUSSIAN worldview. Something like this


        - It will be difficult. Too many metastases have gone in 20 years. But to do this is a must!
      4. +2
        27 August 2014 12: 49
        After the collapse of the USSR and privatization, foam came up and r ... but, unfortunately, they managed to grab a bite and live happily ever after, loot in the West, and all kinds of real estate there, they only have one thing - conscience. And their children have grown up, such same unicellular, like Rodaki. They need to be re-educated and I think they will do it soon, and simple people, not spoiled, need to do this !!!
      5. +4
        27 August 2014 13: 44
        since the 90s there was no ideology, one cult of a lump in the Russian Federation and even now the same thing
        according to personal observations - youth is looking for an ideology itself somewhere and subconsciously
        but often finds not there, crime, sects, and so on incl. west worship

        schoolchildren are happy to engage in circles associated with military affairs, and at least with some real business and in sports, they may BUT need a person who does this

        this year was in the area at the festival of verbal writing of Cyril and Methodius, despite the organization of the event and the overlays, it was interesting to look at schoolchildren of different ages were up to 9 cells. about
      6. bda
        bda
        +4
        27 August 2014 16: 23
        Vladimir Lytkin (major071)
        And here these people scare me, these 20-25%, who first write in the comments about all the good things from Western life, and then insult Russia and blame us for everything (I wanted to write “Russians,” but I realized that they themselves are an epithet for they will come up with us).

        These cracks are sure that they are the light of our world and that their every word is the Revelation of the Lord!
        xenod55
        for more than 20 years after the collapse of the USSR, our youth, and other "ages", sang in their ears about the "delights" of life in the West. And now this is "revealed" in the reaction of this category of people to the actions of Russia, and this must be fought against, the RUSSIAN worldview must be restored

        And everything that does not coincide with their Kreaklovsky opinion (some kind of Russian worldview, Orthodox roots, etc.) - all this, at best, obscurantism. And all this pro-Western aphid is quite well organized (managed by foreign owners from a single center, and therefore always yells in unison and in chorus).
        Vladimir Lytkin (major071)
        We must not retreat now. Having said “A,” we must and must say “B,” and speak further until all the letters of the alphabet are named.

        And to say "B" should not only "we", as patriots of Great Russia, but also the Russian State in the person of its power: call white white and black black, without trying to maneuver "in the gray zone" so that "everyone is fine", for it cannot and should not be equally good at the same time:
        and the criminal and the victim,
        and a patriot and a traitor-antistate,
        to us and to those who dream of making humus out of us for the growth of "great Western values".

        Without resolving these dilemmas, we will never act truly effectively neither in domestic politics, nor in foreign, but also in the economy, and in raising the younger generation.

        PS: and the author has great respect for the article about the boy, and for the courage in its analysis.
      7. Fast
        0
        27 August 2014 22: 59
        On our site, thank God, while no one has written anything good about Western life!
      8. 0
        28 August 2014 01: 28
        Quote: xenod55
        But for more than 20 years after the collapse of the USSR, our youth, and other "ages", sang in their ears about the "delights" of life in the West


        hi ... our youth ...

        That's what they left to our youth and what they taught it - now we are reaping it.
      9. +1
        28 August 2014 23: 24
        by the way, a whole generation has grown up in our country, raised on "beer advertising". Someone profited from beer shit, made money for the health of our youth ... We practically lost a whole generation of Russian youth, excluding the Islamic republics, alcohol is prohibited there ... Now the salvation of the future of our Russia begins. We removed advertising for beer, cigarettes ... But this is not enough ...
      10. 0
        29 August 2014 20: 36
        I agree with the author, there was a situation with the young growth, when the "cool manager" of our office, told the manager, who was thrilled by HIS attention, that he was going to ride along the Don River to Moscow ... I asked him if he had a secondary education? He answered why, if he has a higher! Laughed for a long time, right up to tears.
    2. +5
      27 August 2014 09: 28
      The caravan has to go. Otherwise, the meaning of everything? ...
      1. -38
        27 August 2014 09: 40
        Quote: sscha
        The caravan has to go.
        The question is where?
        To the author.Quote "I am worried about the culture of communication." But in the last article, the author talks about his style of communication with the boys at work. "Almost 20 years in the Ministry of Internal Affairs affect"? After all, with this style you initially tell a person that you consider yourself superior to him, and his not worthy of your attention. Isn't that so, Major? And from others you require a culture of communication. Something that makes ends meet you do not make ends meet. Screen from your last article.
        1. +31
          27 August 2014 10: 09
          Quote: baltika-18
          After all, in such a style you initially tell the person that you consider yourself superior to him, and that he is not worth your attention.

          My minus.
          Why did you get this? Look at the screenshot yourself!
          "Well ..." - a proposal to the interlocutor to think for himself and to be the first to say, to realize what he did.
          "I prefer to communicate with them with interjections and short phrases" - exactly the way they communicate and understand!
          Does it bother you that Vladimir worked at the Ministry of Internal Affairs? But a person is still worried about these very guys who could give up a hand while retired! He has a CONSCIENCE, and Worry about the state! What you didn’t want to see.
          1. -7
            27 August 2014 11: 37
            Quote: Egoza
            Why did you get this? Look at the screenshot yourself!
            Well? (Like?)
        2. megapatriot
          -33
          27 August 2014 10: 10
          The employee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation is a priori a crystal-clear and incorruptible patriot of Russia, the mind, honor and conscience of our people. all know this, except for the liberal liberals and other traitors. It would not hurt the government to think about raising taxes in order to at least triple the monetary allowance for all employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (FSB, prosecutors, FSKN, mo, FSIN, etc.), as well as pensions to veterans of the department. it would be nice to legally oblige the mob to bow to our heroes, law enforcement officers, at least in the waist, and in the future, when proper respect will be instilled in citizens, you can already oblige them to fall to their knees in the presence of a man in uniform.
          1. +20
            27 August 2014 10: 19
            Quote: megapatriot
            The employee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation is a priori a crystal-clear and incorruptible patriot of Russia, the mind, honor and conscience of our people.

            Quote: megapatriot
            It would be nice to legally oblige the mob to bow to our heroes, law enforcement officers, at least in the waist, and in the future, when proper respect will be instilled in citizens, we can already oblige us to fall to our knees in the presence of a man in uniform.

            In vain you make mistakes! Yes, there are also unworthy people among the police. But they do not come from Mars, they are the same members of society as they are. But when you are attacked or robbed - for some reason everyone runs to the police and shouts "Help!" And you try to live without the police! When all crimes will be committed with impunity, and there will be no one to catch the criminals.
            My minus.
            1. megapatriot
              -11
              27 August 2014 10: 43
              I am absolutely serious, not a trace of malice. without the police (already the police) we can’t live. always when they rob and kill me, I run to the nearest police station and shout “guard!”, and you know, it helps, it takes everything by hand.
              plus mine.
              1. P-38
                +4
                27 August 2014 11: 28
                Wanted to get it? They didn’t get it. Wanted to add negativity? Added. To myself.
          2. +7
            27 August 2014 11: 55
            megapatriot "sanyok" What nonsense are you talking about, someone wronged you from the above-mentioned power structures? Or do you have experience of dealing with criminals? As an experienced trainer, you can safely enter the "lion cage", ie to criminals, not the ones we are shown in the TV series, but natural killers? You shouldn't be so about people in uniform.
            1. megapatriot
              -2
              27 August 2014 13: 42
              Quote: Federal
              Or do you have experience with crime?

              there, money was extorted from me, at the same time BEP (probably the only werewolves in uniform in the Ministry of Internal Affairs) and lads. but this is only an exception confirming the rule - the police are all knights.
          3. +10
            27 August 2014 12: 15
            I minus the same. The reason is simple - if you, dear "megapatriot" hate law enforcement officers, then you shouldn't be so open about it, because you should be envious (
            Quote: megapatriot
            three-fold increase in monetary allowance to all employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs
            ) bad not only according to biblical canons! Yes, and if you think well, name the person who suits your cliche
            Quote: megapatriot
            a priori, a crystal honest and incorruptible patriot of Russia, the mind, honor and conscience of our people
            ?! (By the way, Russia is capitalized) What side of our life may be, where are all such people! And Egoza is absolutely right
            Quote: megapatriot
            they are not coming from Mars, they are the same members of society as they are
            , almost all government agencies are the mirror of our lives, well, so ... there’s nothing to blame for the mirror if the face is crooked ... And if you personally don’t know the author, then there’s no need to blame a person. (although you can understand your negativity, but you yourself work on what basis? !!! Here everyone will be interested)
            1. megapatriot
              -1
              27 August 2014 13: 19
              Quote: AndreyS
              And if you personally do not know the author, then there is no need to blame the person.

              was there even one offensive word from me? only praise and gratitude.
              Quote: AndreyS
              What side of our life may be, where are all such people!

              Ministry of Internal Affairs, for example. our government, there is also one more honest than the other. our courts are the fairest. in principle, if people serve the state, this already characterizes them positively, with such people I would "go into intelligence."
          4. +7
            27 August 2014 12: 57
            I am a pensioner of the Federal Drug Control Service, by the way, I do not have a very large pension, but, mind you, I do not pretend to be transcendental and regard your post as a mockery at all of us, yes, yes - not only over representatives of law enforcement agencies, but - ABOUT ALL OF US !!! Minus with pleasure !!!
            1. megapatriot
              +8
              27 August 2014 13: 34
              thank you for everything. on such as you all holds. I also served in the Federal Security Service, and before that I worked in the tax police (for 7 total, I became a captain), turned out to be weak, could not stand it, went into the national economy, in the service sector.
              I know law enforcement from the inside, and therefore I praise.
              1. +4
                27 August 2014 14: 35
                Quote: megapatriot
                thank you for everything. on such as you all holds. I also served in the Federal Security Service, and before that I worked in the tax police (for 7 total, I became a captain), turned out to be weak, could not stand it, went into the national economy, in the service sector.
                I know law enforcement from the inside, and therefore I praise.

                And why did you quit, if it's not a secret? You write, it turned out that you were weak, that you were offered a bribe, but you couldn’t resist and took it? Or did you become a “white man”? Because your praise is so much ... like those dismissed for actions that discredit the rank of officer Usually such people then go around and whine, "and what for me? The bosses are stealing nothing, but me for a trifle outside the gate!" I myself am a pensioner of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, almost 20 years in the investigation, there were all sorts of things, but I worked honestly and I am jarred by your praise, so one is "mine"
                1. +2
                  27 August 2014 22: 48
                  Quote: Captain45
                  I myself am a pensioner of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, almost 20 years in the investigation, there were all kinds of things, but I worked honestly and I am jarred by your praise, so one "-"

                  The search and, in general, the entire "criminal police" - "a ray of light in the dark kingdom." And this is not a banter, but my conscious opinion. And you, as a pensioner and a veteran, have never been ashamed of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. I was.
                2. +1
                  28 August 2014 21: 19
                  I am simply touched by your appeals to the megapatriot. Don’t you see that he writes everything with sarcasm?
              2. 0
                27 August 2014 18: 20
                Quote: megapatriot
                went into the national economy, in the service sector.

                Yeah! And in this area, everything is crystal clear and incorruptible! Do not tease people, otherwise drown !!!!! I hope that you do not show weakness in the service sector and do the work you have done crystal-clear, do not be rude to citizens, help the poor and the elderly (for free and disinterestedly), since weakness visited you in the fight for justice in the Federal Drug Control Service.
                1. megapatriot
                  0
                  28 August 2014 09: 14
                  Oh, how right you are, bribery is rampant in this area (merchants solicit bribes from police and other officials), looting, and other nasty things. but I try to carry out the work entrusted to me with votes in my head (because I am my own boss) more or less within the law. I repent, I don’t help the poor and the elderly, only my retired mom.
                  1. 0
                    29 August 2014 11: 14
                    Quote: megapatriot
                    extortion flourishes in this area (merchants solicit bribes from police and other officials)

                    Yes, no, respected megapatriot, this area suffers from another disease: bribery (do not give bribes to police and other officials, you will see that it will become cleaner in the country), weighing and deceiving citizens, trying to evade responsibility in all inconceivable ways, to hide your income (so that God forbid the extra penny cannot be listed in the state treasury), etc. etc.
                    Quote: megapatriot
                    work more or less within the law
                    (that's it!) work "crystal clear" You are mine, only within the framework of the law, and then happiness and prosperity will descend on you, and the opportunity to blame everyone else, already with a pure heart, "righteous" you are ours!
          5. +1
            27 August 2014 20: 55
            Quote: megapatriot
            oblige to fall to your knees in the presence of a man in uniform

            It's not obligatory. And answer me one single question: when you are robbed, beaten, money and cell phone are taken away and at the same time your turnips are cleaned up, to whom are you writing a statement?
            1. megapatriot
              0
              28 August 2014 08: 56
              personally, I’ll manage without statements, of course, not because it’s pointless, but only so as not to add already busy people in uniform of extra work, not to tear them off from really important matters
          6. 0
            27 August 2014 22: 33
            Quote: megapatriot
            The employee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation is a priori a crystal-clear and incorruptible patriot of Russia, the mind, honor and conscience of our people. everybody knows it

            “And who are these cops?” - asked Herring.
            - Bandits! - said Spikelet with irritation. - Honestly, bandits! In fact, the duty of the police is to protect the population from robbers, but in reality they protect only the rich. And the rich are the real robbers. They only rob us, hiding behind the laws that they themselves come up with. And what, tell me, is the difference, according to the law, they will rob me or not according to the law? I do not care!.
            (Dunno on the Moon)
            PS. He served, I know.
            1. megapatriot
              +1
              28 August 2014 09: 01
              Well, it's in a fairy tale and in decaying cap.countries, everything is different with us. we have people behind law enforcement officers as behind a stone wall, and even as Christ has in his bosom.
        3. +12
          27 August 2014 10: 13
          The article itself was good, I liked it too, and I’ll say one youth dreams now that it’s to blame the West and vilify this country. I’ll say one more thing the closer to the capital, the higher% of those who vilify our country and dream of a luxurious life in Europe. They already do not associate themselves with this country in their minds; in their minds they are in Europe on the Cote d'Azur. And they are ready to sell their mother for a gadget, Coke and McDonalds. With each other people, for the most part, each generation has been degrading since the collapse of the USSR, then society was better not so bad for the future.
          1. +11
            27 August 2014 11: 20
            Quote: insafufa
            I’ll say one youth now dreams of falling to the west

            I’ll tell you so. It all depends on parenting. And do not broadcast for all young people. My oldest is 19 years old and I know her friends. To go on vacation during the holidays is possible. But none of them wants to live there. Where beyond the hill you can so calmly go out into the countryside, with a brazier, fishing rods and barbecue. Without pigs, of course. There is no this freedom. And youth knows and appreciates what we have.
          2. P-38
            +5
            27 August 2014 11: 26
            Quote: insafufa
            nowadays, young people are dreaming of falling to the west and blaspheming this country. I will say one more thing: the closer to the capital, the higher% of those who blasphemy our country and dream of luxurious life in Europe.

            insafufa, you are wrong. Judging by my children and their friends. I am convinced that the majority of today's youth are patriots. Among them there are Westernizers, "democrats", but such, it seems to me, are a minority. It's just that this minority is aggressive and hysterical, so it seems that there are many of them.
          3. +14
            27 August 2014 12: 47
            Well, I don’t know where the prada is, my son’s example, all the same, Pepsi Aipeds, etc., somehow tried to get him to play basketball, it’s healthy, you’ll play well, you can play in America, to which I heard in response why do I need America, I want to live in this country, (7th grade), which surprised me incredibly, I thought that he still didn’t think about it. It took time to study, earn extra money, although he didn’t refuse money in reasonable amounts, maybe on the contrary, it’s time to join the army, mother can dismiss the baby, the child got into such a scandal, mother didn’t know where to go, now the third month in the Marine Corps is happy as an elephant after a bath, well, I’m with him, and yes, and Pepsi and everything else.
            1. +6
              27 August 2014 23: 48
              Quote: demel2
              it’s time to join the army, mom can dismiss the baby, the baby threw such a scandal, mom did not know where to go, now the third month in the Marine Corps is happy as an elephant after a bath ...

              I firmly squeeze your hand and the hand of your Son !!! hi
          4. +5
            27 August 2014 13: 34
            That is why, the sooner Russia gets rid of "liberalism" and "crap", the sooner it "sober up" ... Well, not for Russia all these Western delights! Let's remember history: only a strong personality at the head of the state ensured the flourishing of this very state. IMHO. I'm wrong?
          5. +4
            27 August 2014 17: 32
            Quote: insafufa
            . With each other people seem to be degrading for the most part with each generation after the collapse of the USSR

            I would like to ask if we are not, the generation of the late 60-70-80 years of birth contributed to the collapse of the Great Country, chanting: "Glasnost, democratization, freedom ...". In fact, dreaming of European or American prosperity and poorly understanding that with their protest (in many respects just) they poured water on the mill of our outspoken enemies. There is no need to oversimplify and drive everyone into the "stall of like-mindedness and one-man command" - this is the way to nowhere. And for the youth I want to say: "Learn to separate" creatiff "from Creativity and you will have wisdom and happiness" - this is how my old friend (Jew) used to say.
          6. +1
            28 August 2014 11: 15
            this red creature ... would send .... to Svidomo stop
          7. Steel loli
            0
            28 August 2014 13: 38
            It seems to me that you are shifting from a sick head to a healthy one. The outflow of the population from the country proceeds precisely because it is shameful to live in the country, and not for a turn.
            That is why people from the east of the country travel massively to the west? Because in Moscow and St. Petersburg they will work as loaders and breakdowns to earn TWO times more than working in industrial enterprises of the Urals and Siberia.
            That is why the liberals so vehemently clutched at the slogan of "Well-fed Moscow and hungry regions", because it true.
            In Russia, there are only three decent mass feeders for the population: oil and gas production, Moscow and St. Petersburg.

            And quite rightly, young people want to live well, no worse than living in Europe and the Americasbut at home they cannot live well for so many reasons.
          8. Steel loli
            0
            28 August 2014 13: 38
            It seems to me that you are shifting from a sick head to a healthy one. The outflow of the population from the country proceeds precisely because it is shameful to live in the country, and not for a turn.
            That is why people from the east of the country travel massively to the west? Because in Moscow and St. Petersburg they will work as loaders and breakdowns to earn TWO times more than working in industrial enterprises of the Urals and Siberia.
            That is why the liberals so vehemently clutched at the slogan of "Well-fed Moscow and hungry regions", because it true.
            In Russia, there are only three decent mass feeders for the population: oil and gas production, Moscow and St. Petersburg.

            And quite rightly, young people want to live well, no worse than living in Europe and the Americasbut at home they cannot live well for so many reasons.
        4. +7
          27 August 2014 10: 14
          Quote: baltika-18
          In this style, initially tell the person that you consider yourself superior to him, and that he is not worth your attention. Isn't that right, Major?
          At least the person sincerely expresses his opinion, what can you say about you. Screen of your recent comments
          Quote: Leonidych
          in our opazitsii
          Learn to write in Russian, "patriot" fucking. Opposition is written.
          Quote: Leonidych
          leberasts
          The same crap. Liberasty. Pisaka, damn it ......
      2. +19
        27 August 2014 10: 00
        Quote: Giant thought
        Insulting a stranger for an opinion is from a small mind and lack of education. It is almost impossible for these people to prove anything, because they only hear themselves loved. And the article about the boy came out very good, I, in any case, liked it.

        I support your point of view! I also agree with the author of the article.
        The level of education, thinking, literacy, respect, these are all the components that define a person as a person.
    3. artemon0502
      -10
      27 August 2014 10: 16
      the dog barked at Uncle fraer)
    4. +11
      27 August 2014 11: 20
      Do NOT look there. After all, it was not the criticism of his article that worried the author, but the number of young people "looking in the mouth" of the West, the number of those who
      they think differently from us, they have a completely different outlook on life.

      This suggests that in the information war for the minds, the West is leading for now. And this problem must be solved without delay. Ukraine has clearly shown what happens if you underestimate this danger.
    5. +1
      27 August 2014 18: 42
      Just from the site of Mikhail Zadornov. I give repost links to the article "Why does the war happen?"
      http://zadornov.net/2014/08/pochemu-sluchaetsya-voina/

      And at the bottom of the video of the song - I recommend listening after reading at least the last paragraph.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaP5ANtGx7w

      All of the above sheds light on the true causes of current events. There is only one way out - CLEANING.
    6. +4
      27 August 2014 20: 40
      Quote: Serge56
      Internet, he is like that. Spit and forget.
    7. +1
      28 August 2014 12: 14
      Now the main weapon of decay is not a lie against our country. A smart person on the Internet will easily expose a lie. Perestroika began with the same thing - praise of the West and contemptuous statements about Russia, a constant mention of the shortcomings that exist in any country - bribery, inefficiency, laziness, drunkenness, as features of a Russian character.
    8. Valestine
      +1
      28 August 2014 14: 37
      No, the time has come to organize serious monitoring of such statements on the one hand and to form mechanisms for the effective formation of a nationally oriented mentality at all levels of upbringing and education of the young generation of "Pepsi" on the other hand. It is advisable to use the method of projects in the information field, providing substantial grants for their development. To attract talented directors, publicists, teachers, successful organizers, creative people, and student youth to these projects. Young people, by the way, are extremely resourceful in this respect. There is an information war going on. We didn't start it. Ukrainian history has shown that such processes cannot be left to chance - this is a threat to national security.
    9. 0
      28 August 2014 20: 32
      Quote: Serge56
      Internet, he is like that.
      Spit and forget.
      There, to the site of Mic. Zadornova, take a look - how many evil hiss and a nightmare screech are there for wonderful articles. Dogs bark - the caravan is coming.


      Yes, there are a lot of Ukrainians in RuNet, and all of the post-Soviet republics "Europeans" are unfinished.
  2. +23
    27 August 2014 09: 05
    Insulting a stranger for an opinion is from a small mind and lack of education. It is almost impossible for these people to prove anything, because they only hear themselves loved. And the article about the boy came out very good, I, in any case, liked it.
    1. megapatriot
      +5
      27 August 2014 11: 04
      according to your logic, you cannot touch Makarevich. insult for opinion, in the face for insult, etc. ascending. it should be so.
      1. +7
        27 August 2014 13: 40
        Whether "touching" Makarevich is an interesting question! .. I would treat such "originals" as carriers of a dangerous virus. How does the world feel about those infected with the Ebola virus? Answer yourself.
  3. +19
    27 August 2014 09: 07
    Great article. It’s definitely not worth worrying about the fact that a quarter of commentators turned out to be mad. This is their problem, not yours.
    1. +9
      27 August 2014 09: 38
      I agree! Article PLUS! And the fact that it’s easier to put a minus without argumentation is a sign of weakness, insanity! And scolding the author is ugly, dishonest and unethical! Here is the VO Forum, not the Censor! If you want to shower each other with slops - go to the Censor, stretch to the fullest! (I foresee the cons!)
  4. VICTOR-61
    +1
    27 August 2014 09: 07
    if here all the information for the truth is taken and then branded for long
  5. +4
    27 August 2014 09: 09
    “Vitalich, is it not by chance that you“ wrote ”an article about a“ boy ”?

    If someone has questions about the uniqueness of the text http://text.ru/ copy, paste and see the result. To author + hi
  6. +8
    27 August 2014 09: 10
    Good article was
    .Author, do not pay attention.
    1. +2
      27 August 2014 09: 18
      Quote: Kosta153
      Author, do not pay attention

      These ... more than necessary. I read the comments on the news on mail.ru and my hands were combed. I don’t see other methods of persuading the big horny stuff
      Wash in the spirit of the Spark and others. 90-
      human beings x
  7. +8
    27 August 2014 09: 11
    I agree with the author. The overwhelming majority is engaged in pulling phrases out of context ... (not a typo)
  8. +7
    27 August 2014 09: 12
    Right on target. After all, someone raised that boy, cherished, fed, dressed, taught life, and now "this boy" is like "nowhere else." So his parents, that is, they write one negative. We are, like. we educate him correctly, but you (most likely "YOU") ...... Well, let's go. The usual thing. The simplest thing is to throw mud at it, until time passes, everyone will forget, but the sediment will remain ..... negative. Good luck.
  9. +16
    27 August 2014 09: 14
    Not scary. Inet he is a couch command center. Not so long ago (a year ago), all social networks were bursting with comments criticizing the power structures that they were bureaucratic, Putin was generally envoys of the West. A year has passed. Opinions have changed. And why? The same Vasya Pupkin wrote a year ago, urging the people to "take the pitchfork." Now on his page there is an active emotional patriotic - "We are the Best" !? What has changed in Vasya? And the information shell in which he was has changed. He saw that there were fewer people like him. And arguing with the majority is not profitable. He also "disguised himself" as a normal person who understands what is happening. But who knows how YOU will be tomorrow? It all depends on his entourage (the same Vasiliev). This is information war. And in order to resist it, you need to listen and draw conclusions. And then, when I thought 7 times - thinking, to speak.
    1. 0
      27 August 2014 11: 14
      "... Ivan Arnoldovich - never read Soviet newspapers ..." (c) Professor Preobrazhensky. Censorship is the missile defense of information warfare. Let's get it back?
      1. +1
        27 August 2014 14: 42
        Quote: OldWiser
        Censorship is a missile defense ABM. Let's get it back?

        With both hands FOR!
        Here from swearing, etc. filter invented, but how to invent it from lies and stupidity ???
  10. Serge56
    +1
    27 August 2014 09: 17
    recently surprised to learn the statistics of Internet users. For three years, several groups of experts worked to identify the average user. (everyone is doing this, since no one has canceled the ideological war)
    So all groups showed almost absolutely similar indicators -
    - 65-70% children and adolescents
    - 25-28% of people with a mental disorder
    - the remaining interest - it is possible that these are normal.
    1. Nikolav
      +5
      27 August 2014 09: 49
      Somehow I do not believe this information. What are some fools and teenagers sitting on? Nonsense.
    2. 0
      28 August 2014 21: 32
      By the nature of my work, I encounter a large number of citizens every day. What can I say? According to my observations, today more than 50% suffer from a mental disorder. There you go.
  11. djtyysq
    +19
    27 August 2014 09: 19
    In general, rudeness on the site has become a lot, which is unacceptable. If you don’t like your opponent, better shut up, you’ll be smarter.
    1. bda
      bda
      +2
      27 August 2014 16: 46
      In general, rudeness on the site has become a lot, which is unacceptable.

      Internal tension in society has reached the knot. It is difficult to even call it a society (from the word "general"): the intercivilizational faults within our country have grown so much that "overtly" it is not even possible to recall a single event, not a single holiday, which would be equally sacred for everyone:
      - even on the sacred day of May 9, there are people who are beginning to make jokes about this, and to smear one world with our soldiers and fascist ones, J.V. Stalin, A. Hitler, etc. Yes, one terrorist act in Kaspiysk on May 9, 2002 is worth a lot (one could say: "evil Wahhabis", but think about it - there are almost a million Wahhabis in our country already !!!);
      - New Year? - these days on the streets of some "Islamic" regions in the costume of Santa Claus it is already dangerous to appear - with accusations of paganism, you can not get to your destination (in Dagestan, already in many schools, under fear of trouble from the "bearded men", this holiday was abandoned - but our future is brought up in schools);
      - March 8? / just plugging my ears from howling cameras and others like them /
  12. +12
    27 August 2014 09: 25
    Well done, Major!
    And the previous article was what was needed.
  13. +12
    27 August 2014 09: 27
    Vova! Do not mind it. If you pay attention to all ebiloids there will be no time to live. Too many of them. You have a grateful audience that values ​​you. And send the rest to ...
    Hi dear! hi
  14. +9
    27 August 2014 09: 29
    "20-25 percent expressed to me as the author their big" Phew "! And in my face, at the same time, and those who agreed with me."
    Well, think ... you see, it’s not stuffed tonguetalk to the censor - you will learn so much about yourself that your mother didn’t even suspect about you laughing
    healthy, Vitalich hi
  15. +4
    27 August 2014 09: 29
    PS So that there are no questions on the previous article, I will say right away: I did not catch the boy, he was fired a week later for stealing a tablet while unloading the car. Where is he now, I do not know.

    Probably got a job on a side job, with a paint brush, to see his empty head star on a high-rise in Moscow was painted, and then hid in McDown's back room, until the next "action"
  16. +4
    27 August 2014 09: 32
    Strongly agree with the author. Article plus. Rudeness in the comments is unacceptable.
  17. Marisat
    +7
    27 August 2014 09: 33
    You komenty not write about that. The author quite reasonably raised the question of 20-25% of our population who consider Western values ​​to be native living here, earning from us and watering everyone around the
    And rudeness in comments is already a derivative.
    1. +7
      27 August 2014 10: 14
      Quote: Marisat
      The author quite reasonably raised the question of 20-25% of our population who consider Western values ​​to be native living here, earning from us and watering everyone around the

      +++++ 1000!
      That's it! And it all starts with this! Vladimir correctly sounds the alarm. And we all need to pay attention to all the resources we visit, and where we can raise this topic and take the fight.
    2. +3
      27 August 2014 14: 29
      I agree, in the family, in this case, in the country, as they say, not without a freak, but 25% already agree, it’s a bit much. Sad statistics are outlined.
  18. +5
    27 August 2014 09: 33
    The article about the boy touched on SUPER a serious topic. If we lose the minds of the hearts and souls of our children now, then after 5-10 years, get a second Ukraine (especially with a small one in this context). And since this major presented and presented this topic, not every journalist can - hence the resonance and discussion.
  19. +4
    27 August 2014 09: 33
    For all the time on the site, I did not put a single minus, neither to the authors, nor the forum users. If not mine, I just pass by, if I like, I put a plus. Those who like to minus that want to show their superiority? I always thought that it is necessary to respect a different opinion, you can not agree, but not reject. hi
  20. Everest2014
    +11
    27 August 2014 09: 33
    Everything is fine, major. You just woke up famous. As you know, how many people have so many opinions. Do not pay attention. And, the topic of the article delivers, no offense:
  21. Olga Sinigrosova
    +12
    27 August 2014 09: 35
    I remembered your article about a boy. And surprised - for what negative comments? After all, the truth is! Not all, but most of them are indifferent consumers, imagining themselves experts in economics, culture, and politics. I work in a young environment.
    I have not been registered on VO before, but now I would put +1000 in your article
  22. waisson
    +15
    27 August 2014 09: 36
    ----------------- hi
  23. +11
    27 August 2014 09: 38
    Rudeness, illiteracy and slang on the site must not be allowed, otherwise we will slip into a common heap. Minus such comments mercilessly. Here I want to see normal, competent, self-respecting and other people. Comments like "give", "bravo", "to the gallows" and the like are best left to yourself. Greetings to friends, write in a personal, please. Do not clutter up the information space.
  24. 0
    27 August 2014 09: 39
    ... and so that there are no questions, it is necessary to cover so that there are no questions. And it will not be necessary to justify. hi
  25. +5
    27 August 2014 09: 42
    Vladimir, we are with you.
    Do not pay attention to trolling, but for the minds of our children, as the guys write, we must fight now.
  26. +4
    27 August 2014 09: 45
    I agree with the author of the article.
    Similar thoughts came to my mind when I tried to discuss the topics brought up on the forum with colleagues, friends, acquaintances ... And I was unpleasantly surprised by the detachment of people from global problems. NOBODY attaches importance to the events in Ukraine! NOBODY realizes the possible consequences of these events! Complete detachment (Ukraine is far away)! The fruits of the "consumer society" are emerging. All information from TV and Internet news, and without analytics, only headlines.
    Against this background, the weekly Political Information in Soviet schools was recalled. Taking advantage of my official position, I try to unobtrusively conduct such lessons in my team. Let it be small, but one more little step in the direction of Soviet society (in this concept I put all the best that was in it!).
  27. +1
    27 August 2014 09: 45
    No, of course, a shy man, but not so much as to take so close to heart. Forget the major, never mind, it will be thicker. In short, do not worry, as we say in Siberia.
  28. +2
    27 August 2014 09: 45
    I remember this article about a boy with difficulties in civil self-identification. Unfortunately there are enough of them. Such young people are the older generation that "chooses Pepsi" (there was such a slogan in those days). Among those whose childhood and adolescence fell on the 90s, such a deformation of the worldview occurs especially often.
  29. +2
    27 August 2014 09: 46
    This is normal, this is the Internet. Here you can get personal and insult people without fear of getting in the face for it. But at the time of Pushkin, they answered for the insult with blood and life, and therefore watched their speech. It’s a pity that those days are gone.
    1. 0
      27 August 2014 11: 21
      Do not pay attention to idiots with fingers glued to keyboards and empty heads. Normal people are engaged in business, but do not stick out on sites and forums.
  30. +2
    27 August 2014 09: 47
    Idleness gives birth to madness. If we add to this the complete disregard for this problem of power, then the result is obvious.
  31. +2
    27 August 2014 09: 54
    Article http://topwar.ru/55745-nemnogo-o-molodezhi.html really not very ... "one emotion", but it is short and sharp, like a bullet, strikes right through the heart. That is why the readers have such a sharp negative-positive response without halftones. But the fact that the generation today is so "unreasonable" I do not agree, it was just as "unreasonable" 10, 20 and 30-40-50 years ago. Yes, it cannot be otherwise ... how many people can give a correct, well-reasoned assessment of certain political and economic processes ??? ... right, not at all, simply because they did not learn political economy, there is no access to statistical information, they do not see alternatives to the existing economic model of development ..... But this does not mean that you do not need to learn to think, count and analyze, you look in life and come in handy.

    There is a turn in life
    When will it be decided that
    To buy hard-earned money
    Salt matches or do not store
    We have food in the cellar
    And take and ride mushrooms
    To the island of fabulous Guam
    Or buy yourself a Figw ...
  32. +3
    27 August 2014 09: 57
    Major, forget the opinion of Russophobia. The more you are scolded, the more correct the article. No, I don’t go to Echo. This is where you understand how the inhabitants of this Russia themselves hate Russia. But fortunately there are few of them.
  33. +1
    27 August 2014 09: 58
    Do not pay attention - liberalism, it is such, without CocaCola die. And for some reason, a normal majority wants to project their fears.
  34. +4
    27 August 2014 09: 58
    It was a normal article. The problem of what and what the current ones are interested in, hmm, I don't even know how to call that. Let there be "Titanic office workers with a storehouse of knowledge", this problem is urgent. I myself have witnessed the dialogues of these "workers" more than once. Stupidity (excuse me) just touches. They don't see beyond their own nose, the conclusions they make are completely devoid of logic (logic? And what is it? Ah, yes, this is that the iPhone 6 will be differently cooler than the iPhone 5, here it is logic in their language).
    And the fact that the author was "spattered" - so it just says that he "picked" an abscess. And those who proceeded with bile are precisely the "glorious" representatives of the cohort whom the author described in his article. And I believe that the author achieved the result with his article, since he was so "pounced" on.
    I know a lot of smart (in the past) people who turned into banal consumers. They are not interested in anything; they have forgotten how to use the brain (just eat). All information from the Internet, and accepted and outstanding for the postulate and absolute reliability.
    The fact that the author in his article communicates interjections with this contingent (as noted in the comments here). So he spoke in their LANGUAGE, for they do not understand the high syllable, they do not know, they did not teach.

    PS Many times the idea to write like this arose. But, something laziness won laughing . And I can give a bunch of examples that I witnessed myself. Many of them are so absurd that you get tired of laughing. That's just not funny for some reason.
  35. 0
    27 August 2014 09: 58
    Both the previous and this article are a plus. I don’t understand why to troll the previous article? Likely to paraphrase the IVS, once the author is blamed by the author, then he wrote everything correctly.
    1. 0
      27 August 2014 11: 27
      loud scream when pressing on a sore callus. Only personally, I doubt the figure of 20-25%. An insignificant bunch of renegades screams loudest. Normal people for the most part either do not read all this at all, or do not consider it necessary to enter into a discussion. Therefore, the real percentage of these "liberals of the society of total consumerism" is inflated by an order of magnitude.
  36. +1
    27 August 2014 10: 00
    Auto RU

    Take it easy.

    Remember?
    "Nerve cells do not regenerate. Health magazine points out this directly."

    This is a disease of the Internet: when instead of dialogue and discussion, a monologue occurs, or even just an insult to the interlocutor (in this case, the author).

    So do with such "interlocutors" as the classic did: "Ugh at you! ... Ugh at you again."
  37. +2
    27 August 2014 10: 01
    With regards to 20-25 percent of buggers seems to be true. I watched the SBU video about the interrogation of paratroopers detained in the Donbass, if this is not a performance with mummers. Three out of ten, and this is not in conditions of military confrontation, have shown themselves to be ideological pacifists, if not traitors. If so then the idea of ​​contract service, and it was precisely the contract servicemen that gives us in the ranks of the Armed Forces a new ROA, it remains to find General Vlasov. By the way, photos of other soldiers from this group show signs of beatings, and by the looks of the younger guys it looks like conscripts. It is time for military commissariats, personnel officers of the Moscow Region and military counterintelligence agencies to wake up.
    1. 0
      28 August 2014 17: 22
      It is not clear whether it is true or not.
      And from personal experience: none of them have a Kostroma dialect, and it is very specific.
    2. Mwg
      0
      28 August 2014 20: 42
      They were blown there in the best traditions of the USSR during the period of decline. It is guaranteed. To save life and health, the guys could say everything that was dictated to them. God forbid, if only they let go safe and sound.
  38. pryanik
    0
    27 August 2014 10: 02
    the correct article was I am proud that I was born in
  39. +6
    27 August 2014 10: 03
    Vladimir, glad to welcome you! I have the same story on the article. Instead of normal discussion - arrogant rudeness. We have, of course, freedom of judgment, but not freedom of insults. And if someone had said "officer's" in my eyes, then ... In short, that opponent would not have to envy.
    I have many people in my family who have linked their lives with the army and law enforcement agencies. Many are already gone. Honestly fulfilled their duty to the motherland. So this is an insult to their memory.
    I remember very well that your article - everything is written with pain for these young guys. And expressing negativity in your article is from envy to your worldview, to your ability to clearly and easily express your thoughts. This is only if your opponents do not professionally fool our children. Your lines are really harmful for these. In one article, many of their works ...
  40. 0
    27 August 2014 10: 07
    Well, our liberals need to more often show the real life of the West, and not its colorful facade, to which a vivid example of the rebellion in Fergusonite riots in Europe
    1. Alf
      +1
      27 August 2014 13: 12
      Quote: bmv04636
      Well, our liberals need to more often show the real life of the West, and not its colorful facade, to which a vivid example of the rebellion in Fergusonite riots in Europe

      The idea is great, but nothing will come of it. If you show the real, without breaks, human life in the west, then our liberosny will howl first, they do not want to work. As we had in the 90s, I myself saw through a box — a Moscow virgin showed how people are miserable, not receiving a half-year salary and a penny, moreover, and she in return, they don’t want to work.
  41. +1
    27 August 2014 10: 08
    Vladimir, as the French say: this is life:. Rudeness is enough everywhere and a lot. As the previous authors of the statements correctly noted, do not take it to heart. And the more socially prosperous a person is, the more rude he is. This is the Internet and now we must not struggle with it (everything is completely useless), but simply accept and live on. As politicians say, consistently and persistently carry their point of view to people. And there are many smart, capable and purposeful among all age and social groups. Good luck to you!
  42. +2
    27 August 2014 10: 09
    Vladimir, never mind, there are many adherents of the West who are members of anti-Russian organizations. It often creates an image as if there are a lot of critics, in fact, very often several accounts are registered for one person. You wrote the right article.
  43. Signature
    +4
    27 August 2014 10: 11
    Resolutely respected by me "major071". First of all, thanks for both articles!

    But if we recognize the sanctity of the right of "trolls" and countless "daughters of naval officers" to possess "their own opinion" - even if this opinion boils down to the fact that all other individuals can be freely removed from existence - will invariably plunge into sheer danger and "personal", and "personality" (= literally faces).
    Maybe we need boundaries for the "possible"?

    (PS .: Where are you, KustanayZK?)
  44. +3
    27 August 2014 10: 12
    [quote] Now we must not retreat. Having said “A”, we must and must say “B”, [/ quote] [quote]
    Thank Vladimir major071 And for "Boy" and for today's conversation! She also gave a link to this article in the Mordokbook ("facebook" in their language). There I have a lot of belolentochniks who used to be friends, not network ones, real ones. But we didn't know who was who before the deadline. And now the heavens have opened and the gates of hell have opened! So much poison poured out on the "Boy"! And you can no longer retreat. Someone advises to "keep silent", "do not ask for trouble", "do not touch ... otherwise it stinks."
    But they are not silent, they crawl into all the cracks and the stench from them is unbearable. And therefore, the tale of "A", it is necessary to reach the "I", blocking the lips of lies and death to those who bring.
  45. +3
    27 August 2014 10: 14
    I came across a similar one about 15 years ago, then the Internet was mainly in large cities. Since then I regard the Internet as a cesspool - everything can be found.
    Forget about the comments - the main thing is like-minded people smile .
  46. +3
    27 August 2014 10: 16
    Nice shot, Major. Exactly in the "top ten". That's why there is so much stench. Keep it up.
  47. +3
    27 August 2014 10: 21
    Burn the major further (you have a clear talent) And if some criticize so it's great, then hit the nail on the head! Good luck and my plus! good
  48. +12
    27 August 2014 10: 30
    The topic is topical.
    Especially at the expense of those who, living in Russia, hate Russia. One here said - "a flawed country". I've already learned to take it calmly. I ask - "and what do you think is not flawed?" He's drinking ... He knows what "Germany" will say, I will immediately remind you of what kind of mutt this once power has become under-American. The United States will say - I will immediately give you a breakdown of REAL incomes, which is a real puff after paying on all accounts with a seemingly awesome huge nominal amount ...
    In general, enough guys to fuss. It is not necessary to beat the mugs yet, but it is high time that we spread rot, verbally.
    1. Nikolav
      +3
      27 August 2014 10: 49
      And I am cramped by the words of the so-called. compatriots "in this country ...", meaning Russia, is usually pronounced with contempt and disdain. It is immediately clear who you are dealing with.
    2. 0
      27 August 2014 11: 34
      the Ministry of Truth, the party control committee, the central audit commission, and finally the OBHSS. Here is where to go?
    3. Mwg
      0
      28 August 2014 20: 36
      Dissatisfied here - dissatisfied everywhere. As a rule, such people are dissatisfied with everything in life and try to mischief others ahead of imaginary attacks. Such always explain the actions of others with the most base motives. Checked, it’s such a warehouse of character in them: infantile yearning)))
  49. +6
    27 August 2014 10: 33
    Hello Dear Vladimir Vitalievich! The article is written competently and constructively from a psychological point of view. We don’t touch the spelling, many people have problems with it now, or the finger hit the wrong key.
    Regarding the rudeness in the comments, I saw a positive result from the article. I think it was written by those who saw themselves in this "boy", realized that they were the same, and of course were offended. But beyond the concept of "himself such" brains did not work. It is not yet given to many to assess their mental and moral state and development. Defect in teaching in modern schools and universities affects. And the development of self-awareness is either there or not. Maybe these critics will finally have something in their heads? After all, they thought about the article, and this is already a plus! Thank you for your work!
    1. Oprychnyk
      +1
      27 August 2014 20: 51
      I put a plus for the excellent bureaucratic opus in the Soviet form. Smiled.)))
  50. +2
    27 August 2014 10: 40
    Black sheep always spoil the flock. And we will stand. Do not pay attention to them, they are only on the Internet and can fart. In the open - the gut is thin. (major071) my plus !!!
  51. +3
    27 August 2014 10: 49
    And in general, the use of swear words, even personal insults, kills me - because of this, I don’t want to enter into any kind of controversy at all. I believe that THESE abuses humiliate those who use them and bring a sense of SHAME for their opponents...
  52. DenisRusos
    0
    27 August 2014 10: 51
    It’s no secret that a significant proportion of comments on the RuNet are left by users from “friendly” Ukraine. I think there’s nothing to be upset about, most of the negativity comes from them.
  53. dmb
    0
    27 August 2014 10: 52
    Dear Vladimir. I re-read your first article again. If I may, a few questions. Were you only taught at school and college, or did you come to the service and listen to what your older and more experienced comrades had to say? I think that you have always studied. For example, I continue to do this now. I personally would consider it an honor if a young man came up to me and asked my opinion on some issue. This means that my opinion is not an empty phrase for him. So this guy HIMSELF came up to you. And what an answer he received. Judging by the text of the article, he is a nonentity, and you are a Prophet. You had a great opportunity to convince a person that you were right, it’s a pity that you didn’t take advantage of it.
  54. +1
    27 August 2014 10: 56
    Yes, these are the boys for whom cola is higher than the Motherland, and who are so afraid of the decline of the economy due to the closure of McDonald's - at heart they are petty swindlers and thieves. I think these are “universal human values” that are vigorously implanted in us and give rise to poisonous seedlings.
  55. Lana0277
    +3
    27 August 2014 10: 57
    Good afternoon, I read this article and the article about the Boy.... Unfortunately, you are right.... I worked in a trading company (now at home with the baby), and I noticed that over the past 6 years, young people, unfortunately, have changed for the worse...the main meaning in life, material wealth, money and preferably in a square.... The last months of working there, I tried to talk with them about the situation in Ukraine. It felt like we were from different planets.
  56. +2
    27 August 2014 11: 02
    Brilliantly!
    The author spit and forget! This is pseudo-liberalism. 20 percent - it seems like you have your own business and travel to Europe, but you want more... but they can’t, they start to get angry, and blame everyone, the police, their exes, and the hard worker from the stairwell...
    All this is bullshit. The Internet is a cesspool, when reading comments, filter swearing and that, if the criticism is constructive it will be without swearing and rudeness, (with sarcasm and irony, maybe with lifting...but without negativity;)) since rudeness and swearing are emotions, and emotions are 99% unconstructive.
  57. vladsolo56
    0
    27 August 2014 11: 04
    Regarding the previous post, I just read it now, and I’m honestly surprised. Did the author just wake up? doesn't know what country he lives in? The boy understands exactly where he is and who he is. He is in the capitalist jungle, such a little gray mouse. But the author seems to think that we are in the USSR. Who needs a country where God has chosen the dollar, (well, not the dollar, the ruble, what difference does it make) Who, what kind of idealist will go to fight today for the oligarchs, bankers, and officials. To protect their palaces, their insolent wives and children, who, by the way, will not protect anyone or anything, not even themselves. The example of Ukraine shows that the oligarchs will quickly come to an agreement with any enemy and sell us all out. We want to have a real country and homeland, the land of our ancestors, we must first drive out the oligarchs and force officials and all other parasites to work. Trying to build a fair and honest society under capitalism is either sheer stupidity or naivety bordering on stupidity.
  58. Gold dragon
    0
    27 August 2014 11: 07
    Don’t take the Internet so literally, just because 25% of comments bark at you doesn’t mean at all that 25% of citizens have that opinion...
  59. +1
    27 August 2014 11: 23
    Friend (author)! Don't take online comments to heart. On my own behalf, I want to say - I’m 17, I have a large circle of friends, from 14 to 26 years old and older. Not everyone has such an all-losing attitude. The main difficulty for me and my peers now is that internal politics is somewhat blurring our future; The country has no goal, no idea, or something. Among my acquaintances aged 14-17, few have long-term goals, many are computer nerds. Result: in the middle. The patient's condition is stable and is slowly improving.
  60. +1
    27 August 2014 11: 27
    Vladimir Lytkin (major071): spit on everyone who spewed in your direction. I read the article about the boy and I completely agree with your position. Very well written. The most important thing is that you are a patriot. And they will always spew curses. This is the fate of the authors.
  61. +1
    27 August 2014 11: 28
    I gave the author pluses for both articles, the topic was sensitive and did not appear yesterday, if I’m not mistaken, it was after August 2008, then they also wanted to impose sanctions against us, a similar panic arose in the media - how are we without the West? Really back to the USSR? I was born and raised in the Soviet Union - maybe not luxurious, but honestly.
  62. +2
    27 August 2014 11: 34
    Vladimir write more.
  63. +2
    27 August 2014 11: 34
    Major, since they squeal, it means he wrote it correctly. And the fact that the “fifth column” and its hangers-on live freely in Russia is a fact and the current situation needs to be changed. The West showed how they “love” us there.
  64. P-38
    +2
    27 August 2014 11: 35
    I decided to run through these sites (who cares, type the title of the article in a search engine) and read the comments. After five minutes of reading, I apologize for the expression, crouched on the fifth point. I’m not talking about everyone, but the percentages of 20-25 expressed to me as the author my big “Foo-y”! And in my face at the same time those who agreed with me.

    In fact, you made the democratic mongrels bark hysterically and loudly, which means you got a good result. The shell you fired landed in a concentration of enemy personnel and caused a commotion.
    But 25% of negative reviews are only 25! - this is a good indicator. In fact, there are not many so-called “democrats”, “liberals”, or whatever they are called. But they are extremely active on the Internet, arrogant, absolutely convinced that they know the ultimate truth, and bark at anyone they can if it is safe for them. So it seems like there are a lot of them. I give you a plus
  65. rodevaan
    +3
    27 August 2014 11: 43
    But something still hurt me - rudeness. Simple rudeness, when a commentator, caught on a word or line from an article, begins to insult the author or another commentator. I don't accept this.

    - author-->author-->author, spit on it, saliva. Some people here squeal and put on a comedy live, like little children who think their mother is so good and the only one - they give minus marks! They downvoted him because he was so offended, he turned away from the wall and took the whole blanket over himself)))

    I personally think so - that’s why a general forum is a forum to simply express in writing your thoughts, vision of the situation, analysis and generally just pour out what’s boiling! Yes, even just to swear properly, well, so, firmly, in Russian! Well, they will put a warning, a remark. And to hell with him. The main thing is to express your personal attitude to the matter! That's what's important.
    For example, for me personally, it’s purple, whoever swears at me, or minus, plus, multiplies or puts equal signs on me - let them do what they want. I just know that any opinion expressed by me or any other person will have both supporters and opponents. And that's okay.
  66. +2
    27 August 2014 11: 46
    Once again I give the author a “plus sign”. The problem he raised is one of the most pressing. And we need to start from school! They don’t teach anything there now, especially in terms of behavior (I know from my own child). And smoking in schools! During breaks, near any school there are dozens of smokers aged 11-17, including girls. And checkmate? Teachers “don’t see” - it doesn’t concern them.
  67. +2
    27 August 2014 12: 11
    “whatever you call the ship, that’s how it will sail..” - today, unfortunately, everyone names it themselves! The state does not give any guidelines, only if it is completely forbidden, as in the case of monuments, but otherwise it is connivance on the verge of betrayal!
    The same Putin - apologizing for the Molotov Pact is beyond any scope!!!
    In general, it’s already too late to introduce the “Russian Ministry for Propaganda and State Ideology”! Without this, nothing will happen and even worse - the liberal scum and other Makarevichs - will continue to crawl like lice!
    The most striking example is the purchase by Jews of the rights to publish Mein Kampf - now NO ONE will be able to read this opus, without “correct references and interpretations” from the Jews!
    1. bda
      bda
      +1
      27 August 2014 16: 49
      The same Putin - apologizing for the Molotov Pact is beyond any scope!!!

      Without firing a single shot, they pushed back their western border by five hundred kilometers: they are so guilty, they are so guilty!
      The only thing worse (for every Western and pro-Western fagot) can be our Victory in 1945 - they will not forgive us for this “guilt” until the end of our lives!
  68. +2
    27 August 2014 12: 15
    It’s a pity that the guy turned out to be not only brainwashed, but also “with a pimply conscience”
    And thank you, author!!! And for feedback too!
  69. wladimir
    +1
    27 August 2014 12: 25
    Why worry - the Internet is such a garbage dump, some hysterical woman sent Putin there. Why pay attention to every damn thing now!?
  70. +2
    27 August 2014 12: 26
    The major touched on a complex problem. For 30 years now they have been drumming into us that imported goods are better, that in Russia everyone drinks, that we don’t know how to do anything. And now television is actively working in this direction, I just watched the news at lunch, they said that next year they will launch the MS plane and 400 million dollars have been allocated for this matter. They count not in rubles, but in dollars. Or the following news: Aeroexpress is asking for 25 billion for its development and the purchase of trains in Switzerland. Guys, hey, where do you live? 25 yards is enough to pave three-quarters of our region, and you can go to the airport on simple electric trains, which are made in our country.
    And what a squeal there is about “sanctions”. TV presenters enthusiastically list in which country Russia will now buy potatoes, meat, and milk. Why don’t top officials say that they have adopted a plan for restoring agriculture, that next year they will build several hundred new industries in villages with housing and infrastructure?
    Part of the population has already lost the habit of working, of working not sitting in an office, but actually working with physical labor. Now a problem arises: refugees from Ukraine do not want to go to work in agriculture. For example, our farmers are ready to provide housing, work with a salary of 15-20 thousand, and assistance in starting a personal farmstead. To this they receive the answer, what are you talking about, the toilets in your houses are on the street, the houses are not new, they need to be repaired every year. We'll get better benefits.
    Therefore, for such a part of the population, sanctions, and as a consequence, a decrease in speculation in imports, the closure of offices of various trading companies are like death. How can you live without an iPad, iPhone, foreign car, jamon, parmesan and other vital things?
  71. +2
    27 August 2014 12: 30
    Dear author. I just read both of your articles, albeit in reverse order (I missed the first one, so I started from the end). I consider your article, “Boy, what country do you live in,” a cry from the heart not only of yours, but also of mine, and I think 70% of the VO audience. It pains me very much to see the modern generation of “thumbs” (those who are 20-25 years old), in values ​​and intellect, no different from their Western fellow tribesmen. This generation lacks knowledge in the humanities, and it’s not worth talking about the exact sciences at all. This problem is systemic. There was no such ignorance in the USSR; we were one of the most educated nations on the planet and the most read!!! Now these indicators are falling, with each generation the situation is getting worse.
    In support of your article, I would like to write that young people can still be re-educated; this should be urgently addressed by the state and must be done in the interests of national security.

    P.S. I want my children to live, like me, in a free country of the Russian Federation, and for those ignoramuses (20-25%), I suggest that they drink Coca-Cola, eat a hamburger, then have some chewing gum (to avoid tooth decay), buy a plane ticket and fly to your favorite tan. And shout there in a place with the population of the city of Ferguson about “FREEDOM OF SPEECH”
  72. +4
    27 August 2014 12: 32
    Quote: xenod55
    The article - reflections on the topic that worries our youth now: cola, Pepsi and iPads, was correct.

    I’ve been working at a university for eight years now; our youth are very different. There are many patriotic guys who sign up as volunteers, they love their country and show it with their actions. They have iPads, but this does not greatly affect their patriotism. And recently, my student told me how bad Pepsi and fast food are for the stomach lining, very reasoned... I listened with pleasure.
    So, citizen, be more careful in assessing youth - there is just gold, not guys.
  73. 0
    27 August 2014 13: 46
    Major, haven’t you noticed this for the same 23 years? “The fish rots from the head” - no one has canceled it yet! Personally, only this year I noticed that power is becoming POWER.
  74. postoronim V
    0
    27 August 2014 14: 01
    As a commentary to the first article, I would like to say that my interest in technology and the military also awoke after I, as part of a group of schoolchildren in Sevastopol in the early 90s, climbed a large anti-submarine combat ship (with the permission of the ship’s commanders), I agree the sailors suffered a lot with us remove from masts and pick out from holds, but comparing myself and others present with those who did not have this, I can say that it instilled several additional positive qualities. I hope for life. Therefore, I think the negative attitude towards the general mass of people is wrong.
  75. +1
    27 August 2014 14: 21
    My wish to everyone who cares about the future. While everything is still calm, look around. Appreciate those around you. Neighbors, acquaintances, friends. It may sound rude and cynical, but appreciate these people. The main question is how will they behave in a crisis situation? In case of natural disasters or social disasters. Which side will they take? Of course, there is a possibility of error, but I think you can’t go wrong with the basic assessment. Your main advisor is life experience. Apart from the “swamp”, decide who will be with you, i.e. friend and those in whom cattle is most likely to manifest itself. Question: why do this? Answer: when the time “H” comes, it will be too late to re-educate someone, and there is no point. The price of the question is life or death. I wish that the time “H” never comes for you. The previous article by the Author about the same thing, I completely agree with him.
  76. mechanic 1
    +1
    27 August 2014 14: 50
    I appeal to the author, and also to those who are trying to do something in this field. I don’t claim to be the ultimate truth, but a person who knows how to speak is now simply obliged to speak and write such articles. After all, we all see that the decline of education and culture in general is a product of the collapse of the education that existed in the USSR. I don't mean the ability to count and read. Although this is not unimportant. And education is the culture of a nation. In twenty years, they destroyed the entire layer of education and worldview that was taught in school, institute, and technical school. Most people have stopped thinking; they do not read books, newspapers, or educational magazines. People are taught to think for themselves. Everything is on the Internet. There is no history education in schools. And whoever does not remember his history, does not remember himself, the easier it is to manage, he does not have his own opinion, he does not understand “what is good and what is bad.” There are no roots, we have lost them. And there is only one way out, to begin to return the education system that we could and were proud of in those stagnant times. And also, it wouldn’t hurt to tell children in class about the ancestral culture of those of whom we are all descendants. We didn't have the Inquisition, we didn't have the Crusades. We have never started a war ourselves or attacked our neighbors. We did not destroy the indigenous population of those territories that became part of our territories. We came to Afghanistan and built schools, hospitals, factories. It’s strange to list all this at all. Have people really traded their sense of homeland for cola, iPhone and chewing gum? Chaotic, sorry if something is wrong.
  77. +2
    27 August 2014 17: 27
    Volodya, look at the readers’ attitude towards these two articles:
    1. "Boy, what country do you live in?" Pros 845, Cons 31.
    2. "Shall we talk?" At the moment: Pros 212, Cons zero.
    This is OUR attitude towards you.
    good
    And reprints in other resources... let's just say, translate your article into English and shove it under the Yankees' faces, then you would, ahem... shovel away a fucking cloud of negativity...
    laughing
    So the audience is different, right?
    Well, don’t worry about the Internet.
    One of my articles (also reprinted from VO) was seriously discussed on one resource as “maliciously ordered”; I laughed while reading the comments.

    So once again, Volodya - with initiative (already numerous)!
    We are waiting for it to end.
    drinks
  78. +1
    27 August 2014 17: 49
    “I didn’t expect such a stream of negativity, I honestly admit. It would be nice if young people, as they say, “trolled” the author, but quite adult people, some older than me, hurled insults (including “stupid cop”, “officer”, “bribe taker”) "and for some reason - the "ensign" were not the rudest)" ---- So, after all, different people read... and trolling is a favorite pastime for many who are not brilliant with their own intelligence... you unsubscribe from the censor... and you are confident about yourself there you'll find out something you didn't even know about laughing there are trolls there... and not just any... but Svidomo laughing good luck to you! Yes
  79. +1
    27 August 2014 18: 52
    And this is not a matter of generation and not of “boys”. Listen to what the “boys” say to the gray-haired ones... the same thing about foreign cars, food, etc. The fact is that regardless of age, these are bourgeois. They loved to criticize the authorities, but finding themselves in a critical situation was no better. They are ready to betray their homeland for foreign cars and a holiday in Malta and some goods in the supermarket. They are not ready to sacrifice anything material, let alone give their lives for their Motherland. But this category of people has always existed, as it turns out. And I only now began to understand that not everyone volunteers for the front line, that a large number of people really need foreign detachments, otherwise they will surrender in droves to the enemy at the first shot.
  80. +1
    27 August 2014 19: 56
    Quote: ksv1973
    Bandera's, or fascist's, "glory to the heroes, glory to the heroes" can be heard loudly on the streets of the martyr city.


    At the same time, the President of Russia was insulted
    Everything was recorded on video.
    Definitely going to trial.
    Sincerely.
  81. +1
    27 August 2014 20: 18
    Dear Vladimir.
    You served in the internal affairs bodies for so many years, and, fortunately, you remained a decent and patriotic person.
    My friends have served for thirty years and this is what they say.
    The crimes of thirty years ago were not of such a brutal, massive nature.
    The murder was an extraordinary event and the entire administration was rushed to solve it.
    And then the Iron Curtain was destroyed.
    And they began to instill “Western values” in us.
    Then the liberalization of the judicial system began.
    And then the unbridled protection of everyone and everything began.
    The purpose of the person who got the organs was only one thing - enrichment.
    And how could he think otherwise if his parents paid for both his education and his employment?
    It’s probably not worth giving prices.
    They are famous.
    Those. The Ministry of Internal Affairs is a profitable business.
    Criminal clans appeared, in the Western style.
    They got high-class (resourceful) lawyers and cops in their service.
    Contacting the authorities with your problems was obviously futile.
    And the man “from the street” saw and understood all this.
    And if he didn’t understand, then mom and dad explained.
    That a hard worker and a scientist are not honored, but a bandit and a prostitute are held in high esteem.
    This is the kind of youth that has appeared today. With such principles of life.
    And those who were not “canonized”, who were removed from the benefits of civilization in the wilderness of Russia, simply degenerated and became drunkards.
    So today we are reaping the fruits of the stupid “son of a combine operator” Gorbachev, the scoundrel and drunkard Yeltsin and that very notorious “fifth column”, for which the worse Russia is, the better.
    But still.
    We have more healthy things.
    And we will succeed.
    And “this” will die and go nowhere.
    You are well done.
  82. +1
    27 August 2014 20: 20
    Dear author. Dear Vladimir!

    Followed the link. I read your article about the "boy".
    belay
    And I just can’t understand.. What is there to discuss vigorously? The article is correct. Short.
    -------------------
    P.S. Forgive me for God's sake. Vladimir. And the last name (which signed this article) ..
    Are you sure this is not a pseudonym? laughing
    1. 0
      27 August 2014 22: 42
      I want to apologize.
      I read the last name incorrectly. I read the letter P instead of the first letter L.
  83. +1
    27 August 2014 21: 52
    I don’t know whether this comment will reach the recipient or not. But... his first article greatly excited me and my surroundings. We had very heated discussions on the topic of the article. There is a lot of truth there.
    My wife won’t let me finish writing, she makes me go to bed!!!
  84. 0
    27 August 2014 22: 49
    Quote: 23 region
    Quote: ksv1973
    The head of the St. Petersburg police and his subordinates, appearing in this video, must be fired at least, or even imprisoned for their gouging.

    “You went crazy here!” cried Wrigl in exasperation. - Who is Handsome, do you think? Huh? .. Handsome is a famous person! Everyone knows the handsome. Handsome is a millionaire! Half of the police was bribed by Handsome, and tomorrow, if he wants, he will buy us all with all our giblets ... And who is this? - Wrigl continues to shout, pointing to Dunno. “Who is he, I ask!” Who knows? What did he do? .. Have lunch for free? So for it him here? And he only needs it here, you kind of fool! Here he is warm and light, and fleas do not bite. He only dreams of getting into jail as soon as possible and starting to eat around the police! This is not a real criminal, but a chantrap with empty pockets. What can you get from him when he doesn’t even have money for lunch? ”
    (Dunno on the Moon).
  85. 0
    27 August 2014 23: 12
    I always never tire of repeating to all those who believe that Russia is a lost country, etc., etc., the words of the leaders of one of the liberal and democratic states, Australia.
    "In our democratic country, everyone has the right to choose. Either you live with us according to our laws, or you have the free right to leave the country." (quote inaccurate)
    And to those whom I meet who are abroad and who criticize the country, I simply note: “You’re not in Russia. What’s the problem?”

    Once I argued, argued, splashed with saliva - then I just realized there are those who feel good in any country. And there are those who, even in heaven, will rumble about how bad it is and even if there is a stake on his head.
  86. 0
    27 August 2014 23: 25
    - Come on!!!... WARRANT OFFICER?!!! wassat
  87. +2
    27 August 2014 23: 57
    I've been reading this portal for a long time and finally registered. I am far from weapons and war, but I like many thoughtful people here. There is something to read, something to think about, something to argue with. I, in turn, will try to write or comment on something, whatever is in my heart... Evgeniy
    1. 0
      28 August 2014 00: 06
      Quote: Ajevgenij
      There is something to read, something to think about, something to argue with. I, in turn, will try to write or comment on something, whatever is in my heart... Evgeniy

      Good luck, Evgeniy.
      wink
      1. +1
        28 August 2014 00: 40
        Thank you Alex, I hope I will be able to communicate productively and warmly with you and other forum adherents!
  88. 0
    27 August 2014 23: 59
    I am interested in military equipment, especially ships, and in my free time I make paper models of ships. Although my profession is a building designer.
  89. +1
    28 August 2014 00: 09
    Articles devoted to mentality and culture are always interesting, and I also saw that a very important topic for me was discussed on this portal - affordable housing. I have been designing buildings for 15 years with a very busy schedule (projects for Lithuania, Belarus, Russia. The topic is of course far from military, but the housing issue still reaches the level of national security. I will try to cover this topic, maybe someone will be interested. Thank you for patience my writing is off topic.
  90. 0
    28 August 2014 04: 38
    I personally, Vladimir, agree with you. And your article was good, and we have similar thoughts, and those who start waving their swords with foam at the mouth and proving that only he is d'Artagnan simply saw himself in that very boy. and now he wants to prove that it’s not him, but life that’s like that
  91. Dimas2
    0
    28 August 2014 06: 46
    Dear Vladimir Lytkin (major071), I personally support you, I liked your articles. You write everything correctly, you shouldn’t be upset about 25%, I’m more happy for the remaining 75%... I’ll add on my own that even though I’m 8 years older than the boy in the article, two years ago I worked with guys who were 20 +- years each. So this is my personal opinion from my experience that finding a person who really loves the West and everything Western is difficult... yes, mobile phones, tablets and jeans, but without fanaticism and without the desire to go to the West... simple examples from the last guys I worked with -3 guys are cadets - they all left for 5 years as contract officers, 1 is a future nuclear physicist, 1 is a hydroelectric power plant engineer, 2 are laser engineers... all the guys were students and about 20 years old...
  92. 0
    28 August 2014 06: 50
    PS So that there are no questions on the previous article, I will say right away: I did not catch the boy, he was fired a week later for stealing a tablet while unloading the car. Where is he now, I do not know.
    It’s unfortunate, I was expecting something else that could be fixed with this boy, but here everything is more complicated than a military training ground alone.
    Vladimir, drink some coffee, smoke a cigarette and write something else interesting. And there will always be spiteful critics everywhere, without them it’s no fun!
  93. 0
    28 August 2014 09: 46
    I don’t understand what we’re talking about at all. There’s nothing like this in my city, well, at least it’s practically invisible. In our country, Americans and European values ​​have never been loved, neither by adults, nor by teenagers, nor by children. yes, it was in the 90s, but they are so full of them here in Crimea that there is enough for several generations of memory and disgust.
    Now, from young to old in the city (besides the city’s purely local problems), everyone is discussing only one thing: when and how they will finish off the junta and what will happen after that.
  94. 0
    28 August 2014 10: 57
    The author raised a very correct topic for modern society in our country.
    In ancient times (about 30 years ago) in our country, the opinion when “my ass is warm and everything is fine - I want Czech beer and German sausage” was wildness.
    Considering that in Soviet textbooks there was a thesis “the main unit of society is the family”, today my eldest (12 years old) will not watch cartoons - but will listen to another historical lecture on the topic “Gayropean patriots with UPA flags”, although the photos are dated July 30, 1941 Lvov - I won’t show her.
  95. 0
    28 August 2014 11: 10
    Good health, I wish!
    Unfortunately, I observe the same situation in my organization: 25% of workers, not only the “engineering and technical” staff, but also ordinary workers, foaming at the mouth, prove that Russia is a prison of nations and Putin is practically the second Stalin. Another part is generally ballast, which will go where the wind blows.
    But there are also sensible people who are ready to sacrifice themselves and comfort. It's a pity that there are very few of them.
    And if he presses down seriously, the picture will be even worse.
    I'm afraid to even imagine what will happen if a serious fight begins. For me, it’s better to immediately get rid of all this motley and rotten public. I’m even ready to buy them tickets to the border with Canada, just so they don’t get in the way.
  96. 0
    28 August 2014 12: 30
    Dear Vladimir,
    what did you think? Is it only in Ukraine that “their” “creative” generation grows up on Amer’s grants? Yes, our process has not gone that far. We are little scientists. But they are trying and will continue to try. And the main danger is not them, but these 20-25%. It is with their hands that the country will be overthrown.
    Imagine if in the 1985s we would not have clapped our hands to the marked one, but would have immediately said, “Uuuuu, s...a.”
    In general, the problem is not new.
    Vasily Fedorov. 1955.
    "HEARTS

    All having experienced
    We know ourselves
    What are the days of mental attacks
    Hearts not occupied by us
    Without delay, our enemy will take
    It takes, reducing all the same scores,
    Will take, zayadet,
    We are razy ...
    Hearts!
    Yes, this is the height
    Which cannot be given away. "
    And we give again.
  97. 0
    28 August 2014 14: 27
    No matter what the author writes, no matter who he is, whether you respect him or not, when you write comments, still think a little. There are arguments not in favor of the author, but there is rudeness. These are different things. Rudeness has never been honored. Don't try in vain.
  98. 0
    28 August 2014 15: 15
    They write here mainly about young people, who are not like that, but I saw such people among officers before the collapse of the Soviet Union. I talked to one. He was in a hurry to quickly leave the army and settle in the Baltic states, because in his words, “this is the future Europe.” I was shocked. I was also surprised by the reaction of Russians living in the Baltic states to our leadership’s proposal to accept Russian citizenship so that the Russian Federation could protect their interests. The answer is "No". It would be better for us to be non-citizens, but in Europe." The seeds were sown a long time ago and yielded "good" shoots. As long as the enjoyment of life is achieved only through the stomach and entertainment, there will be no sense.
  99. 0
    28 August 2014 15: 37
    I AM FOR THE MAJOR, DEATH TO TRAITORS
  100. 0
    28 August 2014 16: 59
    Respect to the author of the article,“And here these people scare me, these 20-25%, who first write in the comments about all the good things from Western life, and then insult Russia and blame us for everything...” Author, write to all these “Russians” (with a small letter) let them go to their Western life and live there calmly and happily. They are so welcome there))) And let those people who want to live here remain in RUSSIA.

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