Gingerbread for Poroshenko: the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation recognized the fact of crossing the border by the Russian military. Who to impale?

On the SBU website published a statement that in the Donetsk region, near the settlement Mirror, representatives of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Security Service of Ukraine have detained Russian servicemen from the Russian Airborne Forces unit. It is reported that the paratroopers during the arrest had not only identity documents, but also weapon. The SBU notes that all paratroopers belong to the 331 th regiment of the 98 Svirsky division of the Airborne Forces of the Russian Armed Forces (military unit 71211).

During the interrogation, as reported by the SBU, the Russian paratroopers told how they were moving as a part of the BMD column, without even knowing that they were entering the territory of Ukraine. The SBU website reports that the Russian paratroopers did not know anything about their mission, as the officers did not say anything about it.

After such statements from the Security Service of Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko’s advisor, Mr. Lutsenko, declared that now Russia will not be able to write off blood to the militia. Putin, according to Lutsenko, will have to take his prisoners and stop the aggression.

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation does not deny that the detainees are Russian servicemen, however, they claim that the fighters crossed the border by accident.

From the “explanatory” Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation (quoted from ITAR-TASS):

These soldiers actually participated in patrolling the Russian-Ukrainian border, crossed it, probably by chance, in an unequipped, unmarked area. Resistance to the Armed Forces of Ukraine during the arrest, as far as we know, was not provided.

Further attempts to justify themselves are as follows:

Ukrainian troops, with a total number of more than 500 people, have entered the Russian territory many times over and in groups, including with arms and armored vehicles; We did not arrange any excessive hype about this, we simply returned everyone to the Ukrainian territory in a safe place.

However, all these excuses no longer cancel Kiev’s grandiose joy about what happened. After all, if the fact that there is a “independent” Russian military in the territory was recognized by the Russian Ministry of Defense itself, then this is a super reason for the immense persecution of Russia.

If the paratroopers got into the territory of Ukraine by chance, then, one wonders, why the hell is it, and who is monitoring the observance of the border control procedure? .. If not by chance, then the resignation of the paratroopers during the surrender to the Ukrainian troops is alarming. And in general, all this story with the captivity of the Russian military and the revelations of the Ministry of Defense looks like a discharge of Russian interests. One failure, which may cost too much ... Or have freelance officers of the SBU already appeared in the Defense Ministry? ..

Strangeness, strangeness ... The interrogation of the captive corporal was deleted some time after the publication on Youtube.

Comments

[master 84]

There will be a stink. For them, it’s a whole carriage of little liver

[Drednout]

Quote: master 84

That stink will be

Yes, and so it was to heaven. Now, of course, they’ve generally seen boiling water ss .. tsya. But somehow really strange. Maybe a trial ball?

[23 region]

Quote: Drednout

But somehow really strange. Maybe a trial ball?

Or maybe it BEGINS?

[Crazyzyear]

Stirlitz has never been so close to failure. I hope everything will be resolved for the better.

I almost forgot: the United States must be destroyed!

[Gxash]

Yes, it’s not clear ... If this is a test ball, then it’s weak ... If a distracting maneuver, then where is the main action? Somehow it does not fit ...

And indeed, our military should not be there - there is no training there, or anything else ... But the border and the border guards with the FSB border service will calmly keep ...

I think that it’s worth waiting for an official response on this situation from the Russian security forces and official representatives of the authorities. Before that, everything - rumors and speculation ...

[Koloradovatnik]

That is why it was recognized? Why? Well, now it’s too late to recognize or not to recognize anything. The word is not a sparrow, fly out - you will not catch. Now dill is jumping for joy. Yes, and puppeteers too.

[Koloradovatnik]

Synopsis from the Information Bureau of the Army of the Southeast: the movement continues to Mariupol, RDG militias are effective, the National Guard is suffering heavy losses

During the night of August 25-26, the situation did not change much. Punishers inflicted massive artillery strikes on the settlements of Khartsyzsk (DPR), Novosvetlovka (LPR). In the Donetsk direction, the enemy continued to retreat in the direction of Mariupol, was driven out of the settlements Granitnoe, Solntsevo, Telmanovo and Uspenka. In the area of ​​Pobeda village (55 km south- east of Donetsk), there was a clash between a unit of the National Guard of Ukraine and the forces of the people's militia. The losses of the Bandera troops amounted to four killed and six wounded. During the fierce battles near Kuteinikovo, units of the 51st Mechanized Punisher Brigade suffered significant losses. Up to four self-propelled artillery mounts, two D-30 guns with a crew and one armored tractor were destroyed. To the north of Novoazovsk, a reconnaissance group of the Novorossiya army captured the head of the State Fire Service of Ukraine "Novoazovsk", Major OI Podolyan. and three servicemen of the special purpose unit of the border service of Ukraine. In the Luhansk direction, clashes between the forces of the LPR army and Nazi units were noted in the areas of Georgievka, Lutugino, Shchastia. As a result of the rapid and sudden actions of the militia company in the area of ​​Aleksandrovka, 40 punitive officers from the 38th were taken prisoner. and the 40th battalion of the territorial defense of the National Guard of Ukraine. During the fierce battle of the militia with the units of the National Guard in the area of ​​Krasnaya Talovka, Bandera suffered significant losses in manpower. Up to 55 militants were killed and wounded. Six all-terrain vehicles were destroyed. According to intelligence, the total losses of Ukrainian punitive forces over the past day amounted to up to five tanks, up to three armored combat vehicles, up to ten guns and mortars, up to fourteen vehicles, one ammunition depot. Up to 80 people were killed and wounded. According to information received from the prisoners, the troops are anti-demoralized, the personnel are in a depressed state. http://rusvesna.su/news/140904808

[nicolay338]

And here is the answer)))
The 10th Airborne Forces will not be released - they will already receive reports not from New Russia, but from Russian news feeds. The landing does not leave;)

[Ataman]

All this is fake.
Where is the photo of the destroyed BMD-2 with white circles?
Why did the column go under Amvrosievka? What other sections of the border are few?
Why conscripts, not contract soldiers?
Where is the militia? If there really was a transfer of equipment, the militia would be dismantled right at the border.
Where are the vests? Is it the Airborne Forces?
If dropped by an explosion from the armor, then where is at least one scratch?
About the anonymous source from the Ministry of Defense in general I am silent.

[nicolay338]

Stuffing or not stuffing - it does not matter. The main thing is that the 10 captured Airborne Forces brought kipesh into the Ukrosmi, and this says something. And who said that this is a stuffing?))) If we take into account the fact that just at that moment the counterattack of the DPR army went, then at least 3 different conclusions can be made:
1. dill piss and thrown (to ask again for help from the West)
2. ours still "unofficially" help to squeeze out the Nazis
3. ours made a setup and look forward to continuing ...
Something like this ...
And then time will tell ...

[31231]

2. ours still "unofficially" help to squeeze out the Nazis

Well, not conscripts with milk shreds ?!
these dredgers do not even know the identification marks of ukrov, no one explained this to them for one simple reason. They did not plan to fight. And crap the local command of the landing. Starting from komroty and ending kompolka.

[severniy]

but it seems to me that someone Vova put a pig with a specialist ...

[Revolver]

Quote: severniy

but it seems to me that someone Vova put a pig with a specialist ...

Did you drink with him? If so, I envy you in a good way. And if not, then it’s not Vova for you, but Mr. VV Putin, or the GDP, well, for the most extreme Vladimir Vladimirovich.

[asar]

I agree! Let’s do it all without fancy familiarity! He is not a kid from the bazaar that sells seeds, but the president of the Russian Federation!
As for the fighters of the Airborne Forces - I think everything will be clarified in the near future, let's not flog a fever, its bulk!

[rodevaan]

I HERE RYUZH SIMPLY! THE LOGGAGE IS COMPLETE, AND YOU HERE STUPPED THE STUPID HOLIVAR!
DUCKS MOUNTED ANOTHER FAKE, WITH A PIN TO THE DESK TO THE CAMPAIGN BY THE DIRECTOR ...
Well, what kind of nonsense is SILEN MERIN - A SOLDIER IN A BMP PORTRAIT PORTRAIT IN A FRAME, YES? CLASSIC PADDERS HANG ON THE WALLS ... FORGOTS ONLY BEARS, BALALAIKA, EARNINGS AND WOTKU - AND SO THE WHOLE CAVING HULIVUDS ARSENAL IN ACTION ...

PEOPLE, YOU ARE ALL ADULT SMART PEOPLE, WELL YOU WILL LOOK ATTENTIVELY ALL THIS LAZA, WELL WHAT NOW THE RUSSIAN MARINEERS, YE-MAY ???

[b0bi]

I think that one of our corrupt military could have arranged this.
The US must be destroyed.

[bvf]

And where can I see? Throw the address!

[bvf]

Right. The headache of command is visible. In a shoot from Dill, the elder said that they had no connection and did not know where to move when they lagged behind the column. Question: Are our commanders ready for sudden actions?

[31231]

I think the paratroopers are real. Fully speak their data. That's only out of ten kakly managed to talk so far 4. At what it is seen that almost everyone reads a piece of paper.
There is not a single question from the interrogator where they fought and whether they shot at Ukrainians. For they were not taken at the front. And they don’t even know how warriors Ukrainians look.

I think there was a company column along the border, one bams broke and the compartment remained with it. They either did or did not. If you could become mistakenly wandering to the kaklam, or the RDG kaklov filled them in general in our or neutral territory.
There is a big question for the commander of their company, their battalion, their regiment. Why were they thrown in an unknown area and did not wait for their repair ?! Is it not clear that the frontline zone and from Kaklov can you expect anything? Now let these gentlemen, the officers go and storm along with the militia the kaklov who filled them.

[KG_patriot_last]

I am only interested in one thing - the place of their detention is located near the village of Kuteynikovo, which is in the hands of the militia. In general, there are junta troops in the boiler type. Now the question is - how were they detained and handed over to the authorities?
It turns out that they feed us for 2 days, that there is a cauldron or is it a fake.

1) How could the paratroopers go to the shooting / sounds of battle without getting in touch with the higher management?
2) How could the paratroopers purposefully call in there and then, when captured, give everything out? Why did they go then?

In general, a very strange situation ...

[traper]

Yes, complete nonsense, there should not be such officers in the Airborne Forces who would leave the car and squad on the march. Rather, the car would have been easily left, but l / s should follow 100% as part of the unit: minimum platoon. But patrolling a single machine is not about our army.

[Hon]

Well, anything happens. it's only in the movie everything is smooth.

[green20181]

And you couch "general" do not be fiery to brand officers! Since the border was touched, so is the story for you personally: there is such a term - DEMARCATION. One of the components of the term is the installation of border pillars. So, after the end of the Second World War, on one of the sections of the State Border with Afghanistan, a sergeant of military service (senior border guard) was engaged in installing signs. The task was completed for 3 months. Until now, no one doubts! And the term "patrolling" the border is not.

[Saburov]

I think 10 surrendered paratroopers, the phrase itself is in great doubt.

[Hon]

What should they do for themselves?

[krechet-1978]

Yes, but not myself ...

[bvf]

Keep!

[ren1999]

The RF Ministry of Defense acknowledged and provided explanations. What a "fake". ?

It’s hard to admit, but where are you going?

[Hon]

so have officially confirmed that ours. all the rules, smile and wave. officially they just got lost. you have to be careful

[Nick]

Quote: Ataman

I’m silent about an anonymous source from the Ministry of Defense

Here I am about it ...

[forester]

Quote: Ataman

All this is fake.
Where is the photo of the destroyed BMD-2 with white circles?
Why did the column go under Amvrosievka? What other sections of the border are few?
Why conscripts, not contract soldiers?
Where is the militia? If there really was a transfer of equipment, the militia would be dismantled right at the border.
Where are the vests? Is it the Airborne Forces?
If dropped by an explosion from the armor, then where is at least one scratch?
About the anonymous source from the Ministry of Defense in general I am silent.

The same opinion - this is bullshit for ukrov

[Kindof]

In my opinion, this is a brilliant way to separate flies from cutlets ..
And here is what we have in the end:
1. Rumors about the military presence of the Russian Federation in the southeast are greatly exaggerated. Only one case of random crossing of the border of 10 a / s has been established.
2. The success of the militia in the Donbas? Well, you, the RF Ministry of Defense has nothing to do with this.

[Alexander I]

Only a demon of consciousness and the dead can be captured by the Russian landing force. This erysipelas does not look like a soldier, and even more so on a paratrooper. Complete disinformation.

[Hon]

Yeah, and they are also a member of a lamppost smash.

[ddd1975]

... this mug definitely does not look like an conscript - he is about thirty. And so such information would be chased across all channels.

[Flinky]

The puppeteers are just silent.

[stalfal]

Quote: Flinky

The puppeteers are just silent.

They think what other stupidity to freeze.

[demon1978]

stalfal RU Today, 13:24 ↑ New
Quote: Flinky
The puppeteers are just silent.

They think what other stupidity to freeze.

Psaki tyr-no flew out (rarely, but it happens)
Soon, the thread will "sound"
As I understand it, 500 dill are UNDERSTANDING ??? !!!

[222222]

demon1978 (2) RU Today, 13:30 ↑
stalfal RU Today, 13:24 ↑ New
Quote: Flinky
Puppeteers are just silent ... "Puppeteers just do this themselves ... they condemn some, they don't see others" The US and EU condemned the airstrikes of Egypt and the UAE on Tripoli
August 26, 2014, Empire
A joint statement by the United States, France, Germany, Italy and Britain said that air strikes by Egypt and the United Arab Emirates in Libya would only exacerbate the split in the country and hamper the transition to democracy.

The first airstrikes were struck a week ago, then UAE aviation again bombed militant positions on Saturday, the BBC reports.

It is believed that in this way Cairo and Abu Dhabi wanted to prevent the Islamists from taking over the airport in Tripoli, but this did not succeed.

On Sunday, militants in Libya curled about the seizure of the airport of the capital - the city of Tripoli.


Israeli army hits 70 targets in Gaza per day
August 26, 2014, Empire
The Israeli army hit more than 70 targets in the Gaza Strip per day, including launchers and two Hamas missile operators.


This is reported by Israeli media.

In turn, Palestinian militants fired 120 missiles from the Gaza Strip over Israel on Monday. 14 missiles were intercepted by the air defense system, the rest exploded on the territory of the Jewish state, and four caused damage to various objects. One Israeli, according to media reports, was injured.

More than 8 Palestinians have been killed in the Gaza Strip since 2 July, when the Israel Defense Forces launched Operation Protective Edge (Hebrew for Unbreakable Rock), according to Palestinian medical services. During the 48 days of the operation, Israel killed 68 people, including four civilians. "

[Argyn]

Quote: 222222

A joint statement by the United States, France, Germany, Italy and Britain said that air strikes by Egypt and the United Arab Emirates in Libya would only exacerbate the split in the country and hamper the transition to democracy. The first airstrikes were struck a week ago, then UAE aviation again bombed militant positions on Saturday, the BBC reports. It is believed that in this way Cairo and Abu Dhabi wanted to prevent the Islamists from taking over the airport in Tripoli, but this did not succeed. On Sunday, militants in Libya curled about the seizure of the airport of the capital - the city of Tripoli.

Now, as the supporters of the Jamahiriya are called under the dead Gaddafi.

[AK-74-1]

The issue of the presence of the Russian Armed Forces in their own territory, as well as in adjacent territories, will no longer affect the process.
Xoxlostan leaked it is no longer interesting.
And one corporal there, or the whole 2-I Gua, is now not important.
The process is not going according to America’s plan, but the territory of the conflict is an instrument in the struggle for .... I’m not afraid of these words, for the territory west of the Bug.

I want to rephrase:
Putin to the ROD, Merkel to SERET!

[Black Colonel]

For Psaki, such news can endure the remnants of the brain.

[SVAROGE]

))) EXPLOSION OF THE BRAIN !!!

[Jacques]

The charge is not large, as cotton as from an open beer.)))))))))))))

[demon1978]

Black Colonel (2) IS Today, 13:38 PM ↑ New
For Psaki, such news can endure the remnants of the brain.

No, it doesn’t exist !!! She (his brain) holds it in the Maalnalkai test tube, she keeps the office safe. Therefore, she tries to contact the office for consultations all the time, she doesn’t get any current, she has lost the key to the safe, or the test tube along with the contents rotten (HEAT HOWEVER) !!!

[romashki74]

Why think something? One call Pssyke and she will put everything in its place ....

[rodevaan]

- Yes, this is some kind of crap! Another fake .... It's time to get used to it.

[traper]

Most likely crap, but why the hell "ITAR-TASS" is involved in this ??, with links to sources in the RF Ministry of Defense ??

[Hon]

because it’s not messy, and yet, yes, ours from our territory iron dill with artillery

[avia1991]

Quote: Hon

and yet, yes, ours from our territory will iron dill with artillery

Drive, sir!
..And even if not - still drive! Do you understand? KNOW and FUCK are two big differences.

[rodevaan]

Quote: Hon

because it’s not messy, and yet, yes, ours from our territory iron dill with artillery

- Have you ever watched this so-called "DON'T"? In the BMPh, the soldiers have a portrait of Putin in a frame, yeah ... Some kind of quilted jackets are hanging on the walls ... Gentlemen, you don't drive a blizzard!
To complete the picture, it remains only to tie a bear with a balalaika to the BMPhe in a fur hat, and write the word "Wotka" on the quilted jacket - and the most Russian paratroopers will turn out! Hike there, the directors of this fake were pildos, with cave hoolivudi manners ...
Dill again mounted some garbage next at Uncle Vasya’s in the garage, and you’ve connected the Russian Defense Ministry, the Strategic Rocket Forces, the KGB and others ...
Don’t turn into fools ...

[MilesAth]

They have an earlier morning.
Now they wake up and stink ... with joy

[kergudu straight]

Quote: Colorado

That is why it was recognized? Why? Well, now it’s too late to recognize or not to recognize anything. The word is not a sparrow, fly out - you will not catch. Now dill is jumping for joy. Yes, and puppeteers too.

We must admit that if they are really ours, we must not give up our own, let us raise the stench we have something to answer, judging by how the Novorossiysk banderlogs are fenced, more than one hundred ssykuns will run across our border, it’s just that they need to raise a specific cry, such as dill without declaration of war attacked Russia

[vadimN]

Relatives of paratroopers detained in Ukraine gathered in Kostroma

http://top.rbc.ru/society/26/08/2014/945085.shtml#xtor=AL-[internal_traffic]--[r
bc.ru] - [main_body] - [main_item] - [title]

[avia1991]

Quote: vadimN

Relatives of detainees in Ukraine

Damn, did you read the article yourself ?! BIG! And not a single photo, not a single video from Western correspondents, and other rats! Do not throw such links.

[41 REGION]

Quote: kerguda straight

We must admit that if they are really ours, we must not give up our own, let us raise the stench we have something to answer, judging by how the Novorossiysk banderlogs are fenced, more than one hundred ssykuns will run across our border, it’s just that they need to raise a specific cry, such as dill without declaration of war attacked Russia

I agree you can’t refuse your own, you need to think about how to get it out.

[Hon]

themselves will give) to prove that they did not get lost they will not be able, so we must give)

[Sanya Terek]

It was necessary to refuse that these are our military personnel? Throw a dozen boys, and then claim that Russia does not abandon its own. Here with the perpetrators of this incident - ask in full.

[father nikon]

That is why it was recognized?

But how not to recognize? Non-recognition means a renunciation of their own citizens, then the guys will remain outside the law! Who then will guarantee their life?

[andj61]

Quote: Colorado

That is why it was recognized? Why? Well, now it’s too late to recognize or not to recognize anything. The word is not a sparrow, fly out - you will not catch. Now dill is jumping for joy. Yes, and puppeteers too.

In fact, no one has yet recognized it, although ITAR-TASS has already reposted this information. If they really detained our people, then we must admit, we must take them, and then we must understand. It is quite possible that it will turn out that our poor and weak gouges "rested" after military training near the border on OUR territory, and they were kidnapped by evil Ukrovskie special forces, forcing them to talk on camera later, hell knows what. And another note on the fact of violation of the border and the forced withdrawal of the military, institute criminal cases for violation of the state border and kidnapping.
As a matter of fact, nothing particularly terrible has happened: for six months now Ukriya has been "at war" with Russia, and in the minds of ukrov one fact will not change anything.

[PalSanych]

I think! DESA ... if only the GRU would go across the border .. well, no matter how the landing ....

[Hon]

friends of the cops are now fighting there, although officially now they are going gray in their offices and are scribbling protocols, and they are not the GRU. our troops constantly cross the border to scare ukrov, this time a failure. nothing happened and worse.

[the polar]

For such a throw-in of crap from the "echo of Moscow" the author of the throw-in must be castrated. The article has five hundred cons.
Who is the author of the stuffing? Why anonymously?

[TsUS-Air Force]

and you want the boys to be abandoned again and betrayed in the best traditions of the Russian government as in 1994 when the Dudaev’s opposition stormed the formidable with our tanks and our tank crews from all over the Moscow Region, and then psa Mercedes said-there aren’t and cannot be my soldiers !!! and all these guys were tortured for a long time and then executed

[torkov66]

Another filkin's letter of dill .. The paratroopers really got lost and crossed the border, being on duty with weapons and documents where they were detained by the Ukrainians. And this is a mess for stuffing ... They removed their "artists" under their names with the necessary text .. Who knows them by sight ..? Comments are disabled, they are not in social networks ... Another duck, the Ukrainians are stupid ... for the mass consumer ... so that they grabbed and did not understand ...

[ren1999]

That is why it was recognized?

Not understood. This is how not to recognize? Write off the boys? Like let them take a steam bath, are they themselves to blame?
To unscrew the guilty commanders, and to take all opportunities for rescue.

If the landing is fornication, then who is going to fight and how?

[Nick]

Quote: Colorado

That is why it was recognized? Why? Well

Yes, all this nonsense. Provocation. Please note that the author is not specified, the source, too. Bullshit in one word.

[Cadet787]

It seems to me that this is yet another provocation of the Ukrainian fascists; no official statement by the Russian Foreign Ministry has been published in the media. Russian paratroopers (pictured) in the Soviet maskhalats, in the Russian Airborne Forces, have a completely different camouflage.

[Vitaly72]

It also seems to me that this is a setup, well, ours couldn’t screw up like that after CRIMEA

[ermolai]

while they ride, the Sea of ​​Azov is cleared.

[Rostov]

Quote: 23 region

Or maybe it BEGINS?

I don’t know about whether it started or did not start, but here’s what these guys themselves say

[kostiknet]

BU-HA-Gasha, not a video of "interrogation" !!! Bradvan, voiced by these "prisoners" was clearly written by someone Psakoobrazny !!! And in general, we demand to immediately release Russian tourists !!!

[Rostov]

Quote: kostiknet

Bradwan, voiced by these "prisoners" was clearly written by someone Psakoobrazny

Everything can be, but the whole point is that they are truly OUR.

[Ustas]

Quote: Rostov

but the whole point is that they really are OUR.

Did dill tell you that?

[gdv]

Yes, and on conscripts they somehow languidly pull!

[Nick]

Quote: Ustas

Did dill tell you that?

Found. Original source http://top.rbc.ru/society/26/08/2014/945052.shtml
For those who don’t know, RBC is the resource of the Russian oligarch Prokhorov, the one who was detained by the Swiss police for his relationship with youngsters, the one that required the introduction of a law on 60 hours of work week.
How did this fake article from RBC get into the news section on VO? I would like to understand the motives of the moderator who posted it on the site ...

[Mhpv]

And where did the convoy accompanying them go? The first one reads at all, and they immediately showed the third page of Vkontakte, as if they knew that he would get to them

[Rostov]

Quote: mhpv

And where did the convoy accompanying them go? The first one reads at all, and they immediately showed the third page of Vkontakte, as if they knew that he would get to them

Brothers, well, if these questions are for me, then how can I know this. Does anyone have doubts about these guys?

In general, a cool tendency on the site is a bunch of "righteous anger:" Where is our military assistance? ", And how even the slightest infa gets that there is still help - no less a bunch of the same anger:" Come on. ..! It can't be! "
Where is the logic?

[Edvagan]

it’s really incomprehensible, I think that if our landing had been introduced with a specific order, then they would simply not give up dill without a single shot.

[EvgenSuslov]

In fact of the matter. What a fig these conscripts did there. And where is the rest of the brigade. If the whole part is real there, they should already have rolled out ukrov and recaptured theirs. There is an opinion that they were taken out of Russia by a specialist and that heresy was forced to say entw a whip or a carrot.

[41 REGION]

Quote: Rostov
Brothers, well, if these questions are for me, then how can I know this. Does anyone have doubts about these guys?
[/ quote

What doubts there may be, the main thing is that they are alive and there is a chance to take them back. And the fact that they will now be slipping texts from the SBU, who would doubt it.

[Nick]

Quote: 41 REGION

<!--QuoteBegin ростовский
Brothers, well, if these questions are for me, then how can I know this. Does anyone have doubts about these guys?
[/ quote -> Quote: Rostov
Brothers, well, if these questions are for me, then how can I know this. Does anyone have doubts about these guys?
[/ quote
What doubts there may be, the main thing is that they are alive and there is a chance to take them back. And the fact that they will now be slipping texts from the SBU, who would doubt it.

Only i-diots can be absolutely sure

[41 REGION]

Quote: Nick

Only i-diots can be absolutely sure

Russian News Service
11:03
Putin hopes that the situation with the paratroopers in Ukraine will be resolved
“I hope that in this case, too, there will be no problems on the Ukrainian side,” Putin stressed.

Russian Planet
09:39
Putin: Russian paratroopers "could be" in Ukraine while on patrol
Russian President Vladimir Putin, at a press conference following talks with his Ukrainian counterpart Petro Poroshenko in Minsk, suggested that Russian paratroopers detained by Ukrainian security forces could "find themselves" on the territory of a neighboring country "while patrolling," Interfax reports.

RIA News
09:29
Putin: paratroopers could be in Ukraine while on patrol
Russian President Vladimir Putin commented on the incident with Russian paratroopers detained in Ukraine: according to him, they patrolled the border and could end up on Ukrainian territory

Interfax
09:55
Putin commented on reports of Russian paratroopers in Ukraine

Are these statements enough? And the artists could dress up and put in front of the camera.

Only i-diots can be absolutely sure

I don't always trust myself And at the time of the article's publication, there was already info in our media. I can of course assume that the uk-rop managed to hack our media databases, but then there would have been a refutation (news-resonance, given that it passed through our media), until I heard a single refutation. So before you call someone an i-diot, you need to get all possible information, think with your head, and only then act.

[Nick]

Quote: Rostov

Does anyone have doubts about these guys?

And very large.

[Rostov]

Quote: Nick

And very large

Well, that's just that Putin himself personally confirmed this information while in Minsk, though without details. What now "Stirlitz" say?

[avia1991]

Quote: Rostov

Well, just that Putin himself personally confirmed this info

Link to the source, pliiz! I watch telly at the same time with the computer, in real time I did not see anything like this!

[Rostov]

Quote: avia1991

Link to the source, pliiz! I watch telly at the same time with the computer, in real time I did not see anything like this!

Sure, not a problem.

“I have not yet received a report from the Ministry of Defense, the General Staff. But the first thing I heard was that they (the military) patrolled the border, they could be on Ukrainian territory, ”ITAR-TASS quoted Vladimir Putin as saying. The President recalled that the Ukrainian military also repeatedly entered the territory of the Russian Federation, including armored vehicles. “There have never been problems,” he said.
27.08.2014, 01: 47
“I hope that in this case, too, there will be no problems on the Ukrainian side,” the president emphasized. He added that he discussed this issue, including with the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko. The day before, the Ukrainian side announced the detention of several Russian troops on its territory.

Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/47128#ixzz3BXQ5MKvm

there was just a live broadcast on rtr24

Py. sy. I think that infa that I wrote to you in a personal email was confirmed by recent events?

[avia1991]

Quote: Rostov

and how even the slightest infa gets that there is still help - no less a pile of the same anger: "Come on ...! It can't be!"
Where is the logic?

Have you tried to THINK? Brains .. No offense : logic is iron, but in order to get to it, you have to be a little patriot.

[Rostov]

Quote: avia1991

No offense: the logic is iron, but in order to get to it, you have to be a little patriot

Yes, what insults? But patriot and cheer-patriot - are somewhat different from each other, don’t you?

[dany]

And the SBU always carries with it a color printer, even in the fields)))

[Jacques]

Something strange .... FORM, chain ..... some kind of nonsense, something is not right here.

[Nick]

Quote: Jacques

Something strange .... FORM, chain ..... some kind of nonsense, something is not right here.

Another provocation from dill, primitive and poorly prepared IMHO.

[avia1991]

Quote: Nick

Another provocation from dill

Timed to the meeting of the President with the dill of Dill .. not just this info arose!
Damn, WELL, WHAT CAN YOU TALK WITH A PARACHE? !! But we did agree: "... it is necessary to resume consultations in the energy and gas sector ..." (according to Putin)

[Момент]

What are they carrying? The government should reconsider, politics, money. It cannot be that the paratroopers say this.

[31231]

that on a piece of paper.
plus these four can be seen "persuaded".
the remaining six have not yet broken and ended up with eggs.

[bvf]

I support. Their speech is strange, as if they do not know the intricacies of our lives. This is not ours!

[Barabama]

Well, since the topic has gone ...

http://top.rbc.ru/society/26/08/2014/945085.shtml


Circumstances of the detention

The agency distributed a message about the detention of the Russian military on the night of Monday to Tuesday by the UNIAN agency, citing a statement by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. The detention itself, according to the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense, occurred on August 24 near the village of Zerkalnoy in the Donetsk region, 20 km from the border with Russia. Ten servicemen of the contract 98th Guards Airborne Division of the Airborne Forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, based in Kostroma and Ivanovo, were detained.

The servicemen were interrogated. During the interrogation, it was found that they had been sent to Rostov-on-Don a week earlier, the Ukrainian defense department said in a statement. The group also included an artillery division, a reconnaissance company and support units with a total of 350-400 people, about 30 airborne combat vehicles, 18 Nona artillery installations and other vehicles with a total of up to 60 units. The detainees were wearing Russian-style military uniforms, without insignia, camouflage robes. On the technique, the identification marks are painted green, white circles are applied instead, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine reported.

According to the Ukrainian defense department, on the night of August 24, the Russian unit was raised by alarm and began to march towards the territory of Ukraine in radio silence mode. The group crossed the border and went to Ilovaisk, 2 armored vehicles lagged behind the group, while one of them was destroyed. The platoon commander, senior lieutenant Mikhail Milenko, disappeared from the scene, leaving subordinates who decided to make their way to their own, but after some time were surrounded and were forced to surrender to the ATO forces without a fight. The detainees were delivered to the headquarters of the ATO forces for carrying out appropriate procedural actions.

Ukrainian Defense Minister Valeriy Geletay last night on his Facebook page addressed the relatives of Russian servicemen: “Immediately find out where your relatives are. Take them away from Ukraine <...> Today, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have captured many Russian servicemen. Officially, they are on exercises in various parts of the Russian Federation. They really participate in the military aggression against Ukraine. "

Interrogation

Later, the SBU press center published videos of interrogations of four detainees who identified themselves and their personal numbers, as well as a part: Sergey Smirnov, Corporal Ivan Milchukov, Corporal Ivan Romantsev, Sergeant Aleksey Generalov. All from the 98th Guards Airborne Division.

On the video, Generalov said that the military did not understand what they were doing in Ukraine, “all this is politics and money,” he said that there could not be a Donetsk People’s Republic in Ukraine, but the country should be united.

Ivan Romantsev says that the training camp in Kostroma was announced on August 16, the military said that they were going on a business trip, they traveled to Rostov by train, set up a camp near the city, where they painted numbers on military equipment with white circles, as they told the military that they would bilateral exercises, and in circles it will be possible to distinguish between the parties.

read more...

[iConst]

Quote: Barabama

Circumstances of the detention

Yeah - infa with RBC. Still those prostitutes ...

[Nick]

Quote: iConst

Yeah - infa with RBC. Still those prostitutes ...

That's it! And some posted it on the VO website, in the news section.
I would like to know this hero in person ...

[23 region]

Quote: Barabama

according to the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense, occurred on August 24

Different sources have different dates on August 24 or 25. I would like to know more precisely.

[aleks 62]

..... Another junting delirium .... Detained 20km from the border ..... Ha ha ha !!!!!!

[Ustas]

Quote: Barabama

Barabama

When there is an information war, compatriots, be vigilant. Even in VO there are deeply conspired opponents.
The mechanism is simple:
1, Implementation (registration)
2. Several, a couple of dozen comments in the wake of the general mood of the site participants to obtain a positive image.
3. The stage of the offensive along the entire information front: collections, reposts, fakes. At the initial stage, 60-70% of true information, 20 water, 10% of pure lies. Over time, when the vigilance of the forum users is lost, the lie comes first.

[Jacques]

Too in the style of propaganda hype of previous stuffing. The cars lagged behind (?), The testimonies given (?) Everything is somehow silly and too lined up. Something wrong.

[Gunia]

Well, yes, we rode the train, put up a tent, made a fire and sang songs, and then moved to the Khokhlov! Laughter !!!!! That we go there, I think it's not a secret to anyone. But it’s not SO SUCH!!!!

[Nicholas C.]

Cheap Jesuit propaganda. Bandera actor without emotions and hesitation reads from the screen a text written by a stupid Jesuit. The reader has no sign of thought. It is characteristic that he never once averted his eyes from the screen.

[Victor R]

Interrogation of Sergeant Generalov ..., - a duck. Another attempt to repaint Bandera as a "national liberator" and create a fifth column in Russia. H. p. en. On brown, immunity for a long time. And from the sweet already nauseous. Who shot down BOEING ?! They are silent like a fish on ice!

[Evil rabbit]

After watching the videos, at least two questions arose. Question one: if these are Russian paratroopers, where are their vests? Have you ever seen a landing without a vest? They won’t even go to fountains without a vest! Question two: during interrogation, Corporal Milchakov named the number of the PERSONAL token after he looked and called it very uncertainly and stammered! Is this his token?

[Hleb]

Have you ever seen a landing without a vest?

I saw. We didn’t dress at the exit. It was easier to change the wet underwear several times, and more often just throw out the beluga whale, which was considered as bags in contrast to the vests

[Jacques]

Note the color of the masks. the robe is clearly not that.)))

[core]

where are the vests? the landing vest takes the main difference. is not it so?

[Hleb]

there are no axelbands on them yet, right? take them serve ....

[ussr1960]

The first moment - in the Russian army there is no uniform in the Airborne Forces? Or is it a new form for the Airborne Forces from Yudashkin?
The second moment - in the Airborne Forces are allowed to wear chains around the neck with a wedding ring? And she was not confiscated at the time of her arrest?
The third moment - now the military are reporting on the passage of their service in "Vkontakte"? Well, this is quite Avakovsky.
The place of interrogation is all on the same background, on one stool, just like in a field movie studio. Why are all interrogated taken only to the chest, and not to their full height? Pants and shoes were not found suitable?
BULLSHIT.

[Jacques]

Too many blunders. For me, this is a linden for the Minsk meeting.

[lonshakovpetr]

Not one of them, not even a scratch on his face ... that really no one resisted ... probably they drove into the tent themselves.

[Estet59]

And when did this so-called Sergeant Generalov manage to assess the situation in Novorossiya in detail? On the 25th they took me, kicked my ass, night in the zindan, and on the 26th, such deep knowledge in the field of interstate relations, internal Ukrainian problems and conflictology. Just some kind of Clausewitz! Painfully quickly I realized that he was "screwed up" in Russia, he didn't even want to go home! Colleagues! It's a setup, disguised as "Svidomo". By the way, a reference to some unknown source in the Ministry of Defense (and there is a general there to communicate with the media!) Underlines the degree of idiocy of the authors of the provocation.

[bvf]

They don’t pull on paratroopers. There are many inconsistencies between words and facial expressions. This is a minus to the directors of the Marlezon Ballet!

[spec.78]

A rough cut, as they say, "show what is profitable." Mindful of their service, although not the Airborne Forces, but still intelligence, after this it is better not to return to the unit. or a Ukrainian prison or a bullet in the forehead. such a shame will not be forgiven.
Although there are a lot of questions about the video. and clothes and chains and what a fig for 20 km climbed and did not stumble upon the militia (there is just a "bowler hat"). If you look closely, then something else will be found

[bvf]

Right! Shame on you! And what are mothers! It is as if the sons in the pioneer camp, and not in the Airborne Forces! Shame!

[father nikon]

The speech is too beautifully delivered, the memorized text is pronounced by these actors, a certain Romantsev is clearly reading the text from the poster, and a certain Generalov is generally a philosopher. Where are the vests, why not in the statutory f / o (cotton number), where are the documents and personal numbers of each, where the tattoo "For the Airborne Forces" is on the edge of the palm, why are many words uttered in syllables ... and also why "allegedly Russian paratroopers" cry ???
Moreover, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation did not confirm that Russian troops who appeared on the territory of the DPR are paratroopers.
PS
Wikipedia for 98 Guards The VDD has brief information about only one unit and this unit, oddly enough, 331 regiments.

[EvgenSuslov]

Yes, they are somehow awkward. They cannot even really name their part. And they constantly look somewhere to the side. If this is ours, then whisper it to them. Or in the end ... and agreed to everything just would not have nailed.

[Elizabeth]

I listened, watching the eyes, the facial expressions of the first two "paratroopers". I'll see the rest later. In the meantime, I am in a hurry to share my first impressions. Of course, let our real airborne assault have its say, but this is a very bad performance by the BDT (Bolshoi Drama Theater).
1. I will never believe that the real paratroopers simply "got lost" and did not know what territory they were in, their own or the enemy.
2. I will never believe that real paratroopers knowing where they will surrender so easily
3. I will never believe that real paratroopers immediately start injecting themselves and telling the enemy, and even under a movie camera, details about their unit, about the size of the group, and about the number and composition of equipment.
4. I will never believe that real paratroopers will betray their homeland, their commander in chief, and even publicly under a movie camera.
5. I will never believe that real paratroopers will take off their vest and take them, not knowing where and why they are going, all the more, "accidentally" getting into the territory occupied by the enemy.
6. The first "paratrooper" with the surname Generals, did not take his eyes off the text at all, which for the viewer was off-screen. So to intimidate the paratrooper into giving evidence under the dictation of the enemy? !!! I will not believe!
7. The second "paratrooper" changed the direction of his gaze, but when it was necessary to answer questions, naming numbers and names, he looked at the same point as the first, to where there were prepared answers. I also noticed that once, when he did not have time to look at the clue, he confused the Ivanovo region with the Kostroma region.
8. The guys who mowed down under the paratroopers, possibly Russian, from the fifth column, may have agreed to participate in the production, perhaps for money, perhaps for fear, but not for conviction. Belolentochny obstinacy is not observed. They did not have time to sacredly believe in what they have to say.
9. With such a frank and impudent statement, it is not clear why the RF Ministry of Defense was forced to confirm this "accident".
Something smells really bad!

[Elizabeth]

Looked at the third actor. Generally a disgusting game. And the direction is mediocre. The poor man, only being in captivity, suddenly learns the pure truth from the enemies of his homeland. And before that, the commanders did not say anything at all, neither about the war in the neighboring state, nor about who is who. Here is such a clean, white page on which you write what you want! At least, almost six months have passed since the spring draft, and the boy didn't know anything! On the other hand, Vkontakte, the command of the military unit of the Guards Division, allowed them to sit and write all sorts of dregs there: "Soak the Maidan!" The girl is sorry for him! Find out that your boyfriend is a traitor. In general, it is not known whether there was a girl and who is this boy? A play for idiots, for maydauns and psaki.

[41 REGION]

Quote: Elizabeth

3. I will never believe that real paratroopers immediately start injecting themselves and telling the enemy, and even under a movie camera, details about their unit, about the size of the group, and about the number and composition of equipment.

But have you thought up little ways to talk and make the text read? Or is it that we (Russia) have confirmed this information also raises doubts?

[bvf]

It causes great doubts that this is the guards unit. THIS is not paratroopers!

[Geokingxnumx]

Quote: Elizabeth

I listened, watching the eyes, the facial expressions of the first two "paratroopers". I'll see the rest later. In the meantime, I am in a hurry to share my first impressions. Of course, let our real airborne assault have its say, but this is a very bad performance by the BDT (Bolshoi Drama Theater).
1. I will never believe that the real paratroopers simply "got lost" and did not know what territory they were in, their own or the enemy.
2. I will never believe that real paratroopers knowing where they will surrender so easily
3. I will never believe that real paratroopers immediately start injecting themselves and telling the enemy, and even under a movie camera, details about their unit, about the size of the group, and about the number and composition of equipment.
4. I will never believe that real paratroopers will betray their homeland, their commander in chief, and even publicly under a movie camera.
5. I will never believe that real paratroopers will take off their vest and take them, not knowing where and why they are going, all the more, "accidentally" getting into the territory occupied by the enemy.
6. The first "paratrooper" with the surname Generals, did not take his eyes off the text at all, which for the viewer was off-screen. So to intimidate the paratrooper into giving evidence under the dictation of the enemy? !!! I will not believe!
7. The second "paratrooper" changed the direction of his gaze, but when it was necessary to answer questions, naming numbers and names, he looked at the same point as the first, to where there were prepared answers. I also noticed that once, when he did not have time to look at the clue, he confused the Ivanovo region with the Kostroma region.
8. The guys who mowed down under the paratroopers, possibly Russian, from the fifth column, may have agreed to participate in the production, perhaps for money, perhaps for fear, but not for conviction. Belolentochny obstinacy is not observed. They did not have time to sacredly believe in what they have to say.
9. With such a frank and impudent statement, it is not clear why the RF Ministry of Defense was forced to confirm this "accident".
Something smells really bad!

[Ustas]

Quote: GEOKING95

Geokingxnumx

Well, why are you sticking your filinka letter here? What do you want to prove? Photoshop mastered?

[bvf]

This was done by one who supports betrayal. Ready for anything for which they will not fill their faces?

[edeligor]

What is going on? Guys haven’t even been instructed if this is true ?! Complete insanity! Drive the commander with a filthy broom from the sun !!!

[Hleb]

If you received a personal order from Putin V.V. about sending you to the combat zone of the Russian army on the territory of Ukraine you should:

Item 1. Before shipping.

1. Take from the commander of a military unit all documents, including a passport, military ID, etc.
2. On a separate sheet, write your e-mail address, a link to a page on the VKontakte social network (if there is none, it is MANDATORY to bring), it is desirable to write on the wall that you have left to fight in Ukraine at the call of the heart.
3. A leaflet with information. MANDATORY, you need to process the chem. composition so that it does not burn out and information on it can be read.
4. Receive from the commander in TWO copies patches and badges with the symbols of the armed forces of the Russian Federation. To sew the symbols and fix the icons on the form. Take an additional set with you and, if necessary, fasten and sew instead of the lost ones.
5. Obtain a special nameplate from the commander. Check that your name is correctly knocked out there and the military unit is indicated correctly. Be sure to make sure that the name of the military unit contains the words Russian Federation.
6. Secure the received nameplate on the weapon entrusted to you.
7. On the eve of dispatch, make sure that everything is assembled, insignia in place, documents securely in your pockets.

Point 2. Crossing the border and behavior in the combat zone.

1. Be sure to make sure that all documents and insignia are not lost.
2. Crossing the border. ALWAYS shout loudly for Putin! for Russia! Mark the battlefield with berets and vests, and use them to navigate during the battle
3. Every 20-30 minutes to check whether the insignia and documents are lost. In case of loss, immediately request a duplicate, if not possible, retreat to the territory of the Russian Federation.
4. If possible, refresh the page in the social network on VKontakte. Valid entries on the wall: Well, here I am in New Russia, urinating dill. I love Putin, I'll tear everyone for him. Obama is a black man. Poroshenko is bad.
5. In case of capture. It is MANDATORY to immediately inform you that you are from Russia and provide documents. When asked why they came. Respond. Comrade Putin sent! To the question how much they pay. Respond. 200 dollars. (Be sure to specify what per month!)
6. If you are being filmed. Be sure to say hello to my mother, who lives in the Pskov region.
7. If you will be shot. Get on your knees, let down tears and ask for mercy.

[Dejavu]

I can talk as much as I like about monuments that are not ruinous, about crosses that are not cut down by all kinds of famens, and so on. One thing remains true - Biden and Brenen came personally to Ukropostan and many others. And they personally taxied ghouls from the top of Khokhlostan. From this I conclude that everything that is happening in Ukraine is the work of the United States. And they always defend their interests with the blood of others. Point. They are our enemies and the enemy came to the land of New Russia and destroys the homes of our brothers. The rest is idle talk and manipulation of facts.

[31231]

The first two are clearly reading a piece of paper.
And where are six more landings?
Maybe those six turned out to be real paratroopers with eggs and didn’t go to "persuasion" ?!

[Sandov]

Full crap. A clear provocation of punishers, the crusaders gave birth to this dregs.

[PalSanych]

bullshit! ....

[Irbis5974]

The option of getting lost is. But I will never believe that landing will be so simple and in this form will give the ukram press conference, they’ll spit in the balls and stick it on their faces. Most likely, the real assault is currently being held in some kind of zindan, and the SBU shushki’s earplugs give the interviews, presenting documents and personal numbers of the detainees.

[Ragoz]

These are not paratroopers of the Russian Federation, but traitors - future policemen and Bendera. those close to their shameful behavior should be very ashamed if, of course, they do not belong to the fifth column

[Hon]

you are now as a maydanut Ukrainian, blaming people for whose disgrace you have not visited. Turchinov recently asked soldiers and officers not to cry but to die worthily for their homeland.

[bvf]

There is such a word - military honor. (If you understand what I mean)

[old man54]

n-yes, if this is true our fighters, then for such a market and observance of military secrets, I shot them, in all seriousness! Are these paratroopers? :))))) I wish I started crying!

[armageddon]

PPC !!! Until normal explanations of our side are given ... It is completely unclear how to comment on the situation ... The Russian military did not show any resistance ... Damn, some sort of crappy situation ... I’m sure of one thing !!! The epaulets of the guilty will soon fly ... Maybe the States have paid someone to create a provocation ... There is no end to the work for the FSB ... !!!

[Road runer]

As one wise turtle from the American cartoon said: "Accidents are not accidental !!!" ... so I also think that nothing accidental happens in politics, all the more so on the nose of the probable meeting between VVP and Pig. Something our muddy, 100%.

[Alekseev]

Quote: Gxash

And indeed, our military should not be there - there is no training there, or anything else ... But the border and the border guards with the FSB border service will calmly keep ...

"Border guards with a border service" do not have the strength and means to hold the border; all important settlements on Russian territory have been covered by troops for a long time.
Why were you in Ukraine?
The mess is most likely fornication during relocation and the like. All the more there was no clash. An official statement needs to be heard for clarity.
If you start hostilities in the Donbass with the introduction of at least some number of troops, then you need to talk about this openly.
For you can’t hide the sewn in the bag, there have been no wars without losses, prisoners, etc.
I do not exclude a provocation of this kind: the company commander, performing the task in isolation, and even, possibly a Ukrainian by nationality, was given a million dollars to send an armored group along the route. And there they are waiting for her. It is necessary to understand.
As for Parashenka, he went to FIG.
It won’t go to the honorable world - disconnect everything and recognize the DNI / LC.

[Nikitich]

They lagged behind the convoy and got lost ...

[BIP PS FSB RF]

The border guard himself. Regular parts (or parts of them) could not get lost in this way. Moreover, their location should not be closer than 50 km from the border. And they agreed for one simple reason - they spotted it ... Sorry they missed it - they went in the wrong place and won the defense too. Return back - we’ll sit on the lip for a week.

[BEKHA]

In my opinion, the guys leaked. There is a mole in the FSB

[Sandov]

Quote: Gxash

I think that it’s worth waiting for an official response on this situation from the Russian security forces and official representatives of the authorities. Before that, everything - rumors and speculation ...

In my fake. Our landing does not give up. These are not aeromobiles.

[Makosha]

Quote: Gxash

And indeed, our military should not be there - there is no training there, or anything else ... But the border and the border guards with the FSB border service will calmly keep ...

There are patrols there. And this was reported repeatedly in connection with the constant attacks of ukrov on Russian territory. In this regard, the Ukrainians put forward claims, and the United States, even earlier. But only border patrols on BMD. And what else in the thickets?
But the situation is really strange. For all the points indicated in the article. Now the mothers of the conscripts are also worried; there is no news from their sons.

Why do you minus the author? The questions are posed correctly.

[Cadet787]

26.08.2014 - 20: 30
Report from Ilovaysk: how the DNI forces destroy the enemy.
Militiaman Borisych reports:
“We arrived in Sadovoe when it was already getting dark, there was a battle. Towards the outskirts of Ilovaisk, a militia unit of three companies tried to break through into Zelenoe: Bachi, Oplot, and Shakhtar. The infantry was supported by the Oplot tank fire, I have a video, it’s actually very beautiful, when the BMP hits the tracers in the dark, I’ll post it later. To step on a possibly fortified area (we did not know this yet) was suicidal in the dark, so it was decided to step back a little.
At night, the green around Zeleny was intensely strewn with phosphorous charges ... this was the first time I saw it, a really beautiful sight. We met the dawn in motion with constant downdowing, waiting, listening and peering. And then the advanced part of the group quietly approached the well-fortified place of the Ukrainian army in the Zeleny district on the railway. In this place, several bunkers and several units of armored vehicles were discovered, go to the fort. the area did not make sense, everything was clearly visible. The group crossed the green and left the line of possible shelling.
By this time, the tanks and BMP Oplot (by the way, which had shown themselves excellently in this battle) reached the outskirts of Zeleny across the field. Here on this field there are several tanks that fired at the armor of Ukrainian punishers. Punishers responded with both fire from tanks and mortar fire. In the end, the company Bachi, the guys from the Bastion and the Miners went to the outskirts of Green. Covering themselves with the Oplot armor, they entered Green from the side opposite the Ukrainian fort. area. Green was cleared, the enemy was completely squeezed into his fort. area on a piece of iron. Settled in the courtyard ... several locals are hiding in the basement. Soon, the Ukrainians began to cover us with mines, and in order not to endanger the civilian population, the militias left Zeleny. Despite this, they beat them with phosphorus at night.
After the heroic liberation of Miusinsk, the Furniture Maker’s unit of serviceable armored vehicles - about thirty gifts were left from the Ukrainian army. It is already customary that Ukrainians mark their equipment with such two stripes, in order to distinguish it from the equipment of the army of New Russia ... it is necessary to paint. From there, from Miusinsk, only 53 units came out whole ... and all because the furniture maker’s militia had nothing to beat on it. Today I heard a detailed story by the Furniture Engineer about the liberation of Miusinsk, wrote to the recorder, I will process and make a report. These tanks with inverted towers from there. The furniture maker personally adjusted mortar fire on them. Moreover, as I corrected - STANDING UNDER THE FIRE AND HANDS INDICATING THE DIRECTION WHERE TO BE BEAT. You ask how many of them were there ... this is only near one of the Ukrainian dugouts strengthened. area near Miusinsky (see photo). And how much ammunition ... unmeasured. Looking ahead, I’ll say that Bachi’s company, thereby playing a trump card, also fell through. Now they have a BMP! In general, give me a couple of days, I’ll do a reportage and retell in detail the story of the Furniture Worker about the capture of Miusinsk. ”

[Rus2012]

Quote: CrazyBear

I hope everything will be resolved for the better.

about landing, rather a fake of the SBU ...

But it seems to be true-
Igor Ivanovich Strelkov returned from short-term vacation

Igor Ivanovich Strelkov returned from short-term leave from the Russian Federation. He returned not empty-handed. He now has a special mission. He will coordinate the counterattack of the militias of the LPR and DPR as a military adviser. At the moment, there is a joint special operation of the militia forces. Soon you will see for yourself!

http://donbass.center/news/882-igor-ivanovich-strelkov-vernulsya-iz-kratkosrochn
ogo-otpuska.html

[zone72]

let your fingers show everything in place and then dill screamed wounded finger shot

[Aljavad]

let your fingers show everything in place

Who cares? He does not play Chopin ...
The main thing is the head is intact. And God help him!

[scutum]

God forbid that it was so Igor Strelkov - you can say the soul of the militia ..

[xbhxbr-777]

Exactly! USA must be destroyed !!!!

[viktorrymar]

Here it is, really !!!

[Rus2012]

Quote: viktorrymar

Here it is, really !!!

Well, yes ... so it is !;)))))))))
As for the participation / non-participation of us in New Russia -

In the last week, against the background of systematic cries of the junta that it is fighting not with the militias, but with the Russian Army, misunderstood citizens have become more active, asking standard questions like "Is the junta telling the truth?", "And where does the T-90 come from?" And where did the BTR 82-A come from ?, And where did the new grenade launchers come from ?, Whom do the fascists show in the commercials?

It would seem that the experience of the operation in Crimea, when Russian military participation from February 26 was obvious, but was officially denied until mid-March, should have helped to understand the line of behavior of the Russian Federation in this matter. Then, after all, it was exactly the same thing, the Nazis released videos in the same way, where they tried to prove that someone was captured here (waving passports and military IDs), stubbornly argued that such weapons and uniforms are not sold in the "Voentorg", that in the Crimea there are not so many militias, and who in nature could not have "Tigers" and the latest models of small arms. The junta yelled about it throughout the spring. On these screams, they officially lied with the device, stating "There are no Russian troops there, but roll up your evidence and shove it into one place." When the situation was already played out, Putin spoke and said yes, there were. But this happened exactly when it no longer bore any significant consequences for the operation.
...
Since this game continues and is accepted by all parties (it would seem that the owners of the junta already have a bunch of "proofs" of the work of the "Voentorg", but with enviable constancy they mark time in the style of "But here, this was definitely not possible for the militia to" receive already standard answers in the spirit of “Well, you never know where and what is being filmed, and you never know what the militia has, you have no evidence.” Since this scheme is cyclical, it will continue for as long as you like, even until the capture of Kiev or even Lvov, Lavrov will come up to the microphone and tell that Russia is not involved in anything. And officially it will be. And what some blogger or commentator wrote on his blog is the private opinions of private individuals. And try to say that this scheme doesn't work.

Actually, the meaning of all these disputes is that, in addition to a real war, the parties are fighting among themselves for creating an oppressive informational picture, so that the situation gets an official reassessment and in this case Russia has recognized at least some facts of its participation in the Donbass war now (and not sometime later, when the situation is already flirting).

Therefore, it does not matter at all what evidence is real or fake, the junta presents, they will be denied in any case, because these are the rules of the game. When this simple thing becomes clear to you, you will be much less concerned about the next "revelations" from the junta. You can ignore them at all, since they are led by the enemy, against whom there is a war to destroy him. From the point of view of the unfolding offensive operations south of Donetsk, this is generally an insignificant issue, since the catastrophe of the southern grouping of the junta's troops comes much faster than any "evidence of a Russian invasion" will have at least some consequences.

And as regards the "voentorg workers", whose presence the junta is trying to prove, they are of course not officially there. And officially it won't. Well, then I think you yourself understood everything and you will not ask stupid questions.

PS. And I completely forgot, the United States is participating in what is happening according to a similar scheme.

http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1751820.html

[Edvagan]

So is it from the Americans that all Mariupol ran?)))))))

[Zhekson]

yes there really aren’t even poles and something like a control strip. Well hit and what? How many were there, why not anywhere?
It was just intelligence that they checked how dill was being guarded by cardon and what actions they would take.
guys, this is not the 90s when the mess was. If you get caught, then it’s necessary.
Yes, parashenka doesn’t have any gingerbread, if it only takes it at the factory.
and yes, the USA must be destroyed!

[Matrosov]

Quote: Region 23

can it really BEGIN?

Are you guys kidding me? which started? If so, consider what has already ended. Here's a brain.
Svidomye has been yelling for almost half a year that the Russian troops are fighting against them, and there is not a single proof. That is, if they are fighting it is clearly without the identification marks of the Russian Federation and professionally. Even "Polite people" remember it is trite, all without insignia and chevrons, carefully instructed, prepared, and I strongly doubt that there were documents with them.
And here, a group of paratroopers, on armor, in uniform with insignia, with DOCUMENTS, just rides and calmly reacts to the detention.
I hardly trust the information that "the soldiers did not know where they were being taken and that they were not told anything", when they move somewhere they give a goal, most likely the Junta distorts reality by adding to the fact that the soldiers really did not know that they were already on the territory of Ukraine.
The fighters now have the main thing to hold on to, or else they can begin to beat out any kind of confession, right up to the invasion and participation in hostilities.

[aleks 62]

..... It’s logical, but it’s embarrassing that 20 km from the border .... This time ..... And more ... There is a war in this territory, the area is border and densely populated. Passing through any village you can see the marks war .... In my opinion, fake in its purest form, and faces are not ours ....

[P-38]

But in our Ministry of Defense did they recognize a violation of the border? After all, the link is given to an unnamed source. Most likely fake

[alex-cn]

The battalion commander also took us 30 km to the other side, confused the azimuth, you see ...

[Alekseev]

Quote: aleks 62

. Logical, but confused that 20 km from the border ....

20 km is half an hour on BMD traffic on a good primer.
The case is not good, but tragedy does not need to be done.
Firstly, with the intensive activity of the troops, all sorts of things, including and the Airborne Forces, and about the insufficiently prepared there is nothing to say, and fornication, and they crush themselves, and burn, etc. etc.
Not many, of course, but there are usually 1, 2 or more fatal cases at DTU. And at night, in the fogs and 10 and 20 miles for a mad dog is not a hook.
What to do? In terms of information, it’s honest to say that we are patrolling the border, we are not allowing provocations, a mistake has come out.
Well, Ukrainians can not doze off. He wrote above that they could organize such fornication for money or something else.
Or maybe nonsense! It is absolutely possible!

[Elizabeth]

and not our faces ....

Yes, and not our talk ...

[soft]

Something is wrong here, everyone says the same thing under the hood, secondly they wouldn’t allow the incapable -that at the moment they are going to military operations, those who do not speak their language there, Conclusion: either it’s necessary for some reason, or ... PS WITHOUT A SINGLE joint for six months, and then on those youths sent to war without their knowledge, something does not grow together

[Sandov]

Quote: Matrosov

The fighters now have the main thing to hold on to, or else they can begin to beat out any kind of confession, right up to the invasion and participation in hostilities.

Disguised punishers according to the gringo script sculpt a crap. Do not succumb to the stuffing of the crush.

[indeveral]

What started? Drain? If the introduction of troops, then on contact there would be a battle. And so, or really a setup, or the commander, according to the "navigator" led.

[VAF]

Quote: Region 23

Or maybe it BEGINS?

Do you mean that STARTED TABURETKIN? And who told you that IT .. END ???
Everything is the same. Only "with a different sauce", unfortunately

Also say thank you that this "ended", and not .... "the whole regiment surrendered ... without using weapons"

In principle, the "normal" result according to the "results" of Aivdarts, biathlon and ... other "crap" is satisfied. A. forgot the "CTO peace missions" in all countries of the Highway

Sad, my others ... oh how sad

[bvf]

And I like tank biathlon!

[DEfindER]

Quote: Region 23

Or maybe it BEGINS?

In general, it’s doubly illogical, firstly, the militia confidently sets in, and now it makes no sense to invade, secondly, if it were decided to help the militia secretly, they would hardly have taken documents and the Russian uniform with them, and if they decided to help openly, then certainly not a small, small infantry, but at least targeted strikes on the APU accumulation .. If this is a test of reaction, then it’s painfully risky, so substitute yourself ..

[Ramzaj99]

I watched the video carefully. All the time does not leave a feeling of some sort of WRONG.
The brain especially makes these circles on technology.
The only case where they would make sense is a full-scale invasion of Russia, which would distinguish the friend or foe technique visually.
BUT in this case, it can not be only 2 BTR-a ....
According to the logic of things, all equipment located along the borders with the Ruin should be painted like this.
And most importantly, at the time of entry of the column, the ALL militia technique should already have been painted, or in this any sense is lost AT ALL ......
However, we do not see this ....
Also, we generally do not see any movements from the Russian side.

Further. If the military went to fight, why did they give up without firing?
And in general, how could fighters go to fight with one ammunition, without grenade launchers of amplification means and communications ?? It also smacks of delirium.
And if they did not go to fight, then their words "that we did not know where we were going but knew that we were eating the territory of the Ruins .." is also nonsense !?
And if they are military personnel, why did they rush in chorus to slander Russia, were they really able to intimidate so?
Russia's reaction is generally incomprehensible, if dill burned our equipment, then why silence ??
So, somehow the picture doesn’t add up, at least that way, at least that way, some kind of delirium comes out .........

[Vadim2013]

If it had begun, they would have resisted the Armed Forces of Ukraine during the detention and would not have any documents.

[Cadet787]

Gentlemen, the Nazis, and why T-shirts on supposedly Russian paratroopers, Ukrainian-made, last year bought two exactly the same in Ukraine. Provocation!

[bvf]

Ay, yes "dill"! Really pierced?

[Scoun]

Quote: Drednout

Quote: master 84

That stink will be

Yes, and so it was to heaven. Now, of course, they’ve generally seen boiling water ss .. tsya. But somehow really strange. Maybe a trial ball?

Here I am about the same truth on another branch

Scoun RU Today, 12:53 PM New
at the wrong time ...... now such a howl will be raised by the Maydan ... begin to post photos everywhere .. write what’s the proof that here are the remains of the Pskov Division .. they’ll tear out all the wool on their ass now .. they’ll smear all the Internet with their guan ..
Not at the right time.

[Denimax]

This may be the reason for the failure of negotiations in Minsk.)

[T80UM1]

Yes, by the way, now the peaceful resolution of the conflict is disadvantageous to anyone ... especially after the start of the counterattack

[Tanechka-clever]

Quote: Denimax

This may be the reason for the failure of negotiations in Minsk.

All the same, YOU guys are funny, if you think so - or maybe it's the other way around, if there is a plan "for a peaceful settlement" taking into account how anxiously and tenderly we greeted the Ukrainian soldiers on our territory, treated them and then transferred them to Ukraine. And this leak was not accidental, if we recall the betrayal and execution of Russian guys at the Donbass airport, and even if we recall the betrayal in Chechnya and the exchange of our servicemen for money. Life taught me long ago to believe and trust only facts ... Money ... money ... business

[soviet skytourist]

the Donetsk brothers will try to create their own princedom and they are not on the way with the people, they will talk for the sake of their dough. the soldiers stupidly set up and apparently read the text

[pan_nor]

Dnieper brothers have already done. What, in the Donbass entirely lads? Directly on channel 112 channels ...

[aleks 62]

This may be the reason for the failure of negotiations in Minsk.) .....
Yes, and the jester with them .... Parashenki and the West need them more than the RF ...

[Sunjar]

All this scribe is how suspicious. Galimov provocation If the landings did not know where they shied away, this means that they were sent there by specialists. Since they didn’t resist and didn’t try to shoot back, they didn’t know where they had to go back again. And among our military there are traitors. And most likely quite a high rank.

The bolt on the 37 must be scored. Tryndyat yes shut up. New Russia and so it smashes, by the way, here's the reason for you to give up beautifully. Like not the militias, but Russia lost.

[Flinky]

Here I agree by the way. This whole story looks very suspicious.

[lord]

I agree, a golem provocation! This is a direct gift for giblets! The Russians could not substitute like that, if only there were some traitors!

[iConst]

Quote: wavlad

May provocation! This is a direct gift for giblets! The Russians could not substitute like that, if only there were some traitors!

http://itar-tass.com/politika/1399996

But the time was chosen "lucky", damn it ...

[kostiknet]

Poroshenko himself said that the Dillies are not at war !! So it's at least strange to call our guys prisoners. Then, how often do the airborne troops patrol the borders? Are the border guards all on vacation? Further - where did they get them? The guys with the patrol route abruptly missed. They took it without a fight! This is a landing then ?! On the face of a clear "multi-move", and that the result is incomprehensible, not visible, etc. ... This means a QUALITATIVE "multi-move"! We will wait for the results. And then how something incomprehensible happens - we immediately start looking for "witches".

[gdv]

take paratroopers with weapons (like they themselves did not show resistance!) ?????? somehow sluggish))) sluggish, sluggish!

[Jacques]

The only right decision. We will wait a bit, listen, read, if it is not a linden in the evening there will be a message. But judging by the fact that this canoe lasts from August 24-25.08.14, XNUMX they take doubts about its veracity.

[Sandov]

Quote: Sunjar

All this scribe is how suspicious. Galimov provocation If the landings did not know where they shied away, this means that they were sent there by specialists. Since they didn’t resist and didn’t try to shoot back, they didn’t know where they had to go back again. And among our military there are traitors. And most likely quite a high rank.

The provocation is wicked as twice two.

[Момент]

The indicated servicemen did take part in patrolling a section of the Russian-Ukrainian border, probably crossing it accidentally, on an unequipped, unmarked section.

There are no clear boundaries on this territory, and knowing how Kiev lies, then one can assume all.
Let's hope this is a misunderstanding.

[arane]

nothing special will be! in any case, the Russian Defense Ministry does not confirm this information!
smells like dill from an article! and gray .....

[iConst]

Quote: arane

in any case, the Russian Defense Ministry does not confirm this information!

http://itar-tass.com/politika/1399996

No need to panic - make a face Psakoy - well, the guys of their grandmothers stopped by to see, business ...

[arane]

thanks! a mistake came out! but still nothing will happen! stronger squeal than usual on the censor. no, it just doesn’t happen!
Look at Psaki. Astrakhan borders on Ukraine, but here a little lost

[iConst]

Quote: arane

thanks! a mistake came out! but still nothing will happen! stronger squeal than usual on the censor. no, it just doesn’t happen!
Look at Psaki. Astrakhan borders on Ukraine, but here a little lost

It can even be not so bad - you can even make fun of it: well, they finally caught the lost BMDhu (although nowhere is it said about the number of detainees).

[23 region]

Quote: iConst

No need to panic - we make a face Psakoy - well, the guys of their grandmothers stopped by to visit, business

Russian psychologists conducted the test "Which of the stars is the smartest."
The shameful title of the most stupid representatives of the beau monde is now worn by Masha Malinovskaya, Dana Borisova and the infamous ballerina Anastasia Volochkova.
So let whoever of them voice "Our answer to Chamberlain"
so to speak with their own weapons, but in the same place.

[Captain45]

Quote: Region 23

The shameful title of the most stupid representatives of the beau monde is now worn by Masha Malinovskaya, Dana Borisova and the infamous ballerina Anastasia Volochkova.
So let one of them voice "Our response to Chamberlain"

Moreover, they will be prettier than Ssaki, and if Volochkova comes out in a ballet tutu, they will generally forget what nonsense she carried

[Xroft]

and who is the source of information? there is nothing on the MO website, officials didn’t answer. It looks more like a throw-in.

[Tanechka-clever]

Quote: arane

Russian Defense Ministry does not confirm this information

MOSCOW, 26 August. / ITAR-TASS /. Russian servicemen accidentally crossed a stretch of the Russian-Ukrainian border at the patrol site and did not offer resistance when detained. This was reported by ITAR-TASS a source in the Ministry of Defense.

MOSCOW, Aug 26 - RIA News. Russian servicemen detained in Ukraine patrolled a section of the border and probably crossed it by accident; they did not offer resistance to the Ukrainian security forces during the detention, a source in the Russian Defense Ministry said.

Well, then yourself .....

[Rus2012]

Quote: Tanya-umunechka

a source in the Russian Defense Ministry said.

in this context, "a source in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation" = a cleaner, OBS or something else ...
Representatives of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for statements and communication with the press can only be an authorized head of the press service or the Minister, or to whom he ordered !;)

[Xroft]

Once again I say the official statement. WASN’T all the other information. THROWNING does not need to panic and get on it. Only after official statements can you say something. And it will definitely be after such a collision.

[STALGRAD76]

And if they were crumbled into the trash, would a trial ball be expensive?

[aleks 62]

....... Note .... The article is without a signature and sources of information ....

[shershen]

Clear day, provocation. But dill, of course, now all shit will come out.

[Hon]

Yes, they’ve been rolling across this border for several months now, so that they play a point at ukrov, they say suddenly this time for a reason. this time a failure, no cho, a similar outcome is always foreseen, ponies and ceases.

[Oleg Sobol]

I think we need to stop expressing common speculation and wait for more intelligible information on this case.

[SS68SS]

Quote: Oleg Sobol

I think we need to stop expressing common speculation and wait for more intelligible information on this case.

It is necessary without hysteria, with informing the media, to dismiss a couple of generals for their jobs .... And all ..... Westerners and ukrosishniki themselves shut up ... You see ....

[insafufa]

Quote: SS68SS

Quote: Oleg Sobol

I think we need to stop expressing common speculation and wait for more intelligible information on this case.

It is necessary without hysteria, with informing the media, to dismiss a couple of generals for their jobs .... And all ..... Westerners and ukrosishniki themselves shut up ... You see ....

I support it is necessary to remove the time of the generals what would you think with a head start

[kostiknet]

Quote: insafufa

need to remove the time of the generals

And where does the "holy confidence" come from that these generals did not follow the order "from above"? The general is not an oligarch - if something happened "you can't get over the hill", and it is so stupid to risk EVERYTHING at such rates, no one simply dares.

[23 region]

Quote: SS68SS

No hysteria, with media reporting

Special order of the Minister of Defense of Russia!
All personnel of the Russian Federation, including officers and ensigns.
If you received a personal order from Putin V.V. about sending you to the combat zone of the Russian army on the territory of Ukraine you should:

Item 1. Before shipping.

1. Take from the commander of a military unit all documents, including a passport, military ID, etc.
2. On a separate sheet, write your e-mail address, a link to a page on the VKontakte social network (if there is none, it is MANDATORY to bring), it is desirable to write on the wall that you have left to fight in Ukraine at the call of the heart.
3. A leaflet with information. MANDATORY, you need to process the chem. composition so that it does not burn out and information on it can be read.
4. Receive from the commander in TWO copies patches and badges with the symbols of the armed forces of the Russian Federation. To sew the symbols and fix the icons on the form. Take an additional set with you and, if necessary, fasten and sew instead of the lost ones.
5. Obtain a special nameplate from the commander. Check that your name is correctly knocked out there and the military unit is indicated correctly. Be sure to make sure that the name of the military unit contains the words Russian Federation.
6. Secure the received nameplate on the weapon entrusted to you.
7. On the eve of dispatch, make sure that everything is assembled, insignia in place, documents securely in your pockets.

Point 2. Crossing the border and behavior in the combat zone.

1. Be sure to make sure that all documents and insignia are not lost.
2. Crossing the border. Be sure to scream loudly for Putin! for Russia!
3. Every 20-30 minutes to check whether the insignia and documents are lost. In case of loss, immediately request a duplicate, if not possible, retreat to the territory of the Russian Federation.
4. If possible, refresh the page in the social network on VKontakte. Valid entries on the wall: Well, here I am in New Russia, urinating dill. I love Putin, I'll tear everyone for him. Obama is a black man. Poroshenko is bad.
5. In case of capture. It is MANDATORY to immediately inform you that you are from Russia and provide documents. When asked why they came. Respond. Comrade Putin sent! To the question how much they pay. Respond. 200 dollars. (Be sure to specify what per month!)
6. If you are being filmed. Be sure to say hello to my mother, who lives in the Pskov region.
7. If you will be shot. Get on your knees, let down tears and ask for mercy.

[tomket]

Quote: SS68SS

remove a couple of generals from office for razd ... action.

Either provocation, or questions to Shamanov appear.

[iConst]

Quote: tomket

Either provocation, or questions to Shamanov appear.

Another suggestion is a planned provocation: information flashed in the Russian media that our military was patrolling the border, as, I suspect, the border with Ukraine is mostly visible only on the map - there are no PSCs and there are no two rows of thorns.

The same guys patrolled not the first day along the usual route. It is likely that a part of the route was "cut off" through the Ukrainian part - ravines, swamps there ... The dill noticed this and prepared a trap - the time coincided very suspiciously! What is called "in the very hole"!

[41 REGION]

Quote: iConst

The same guys patrolled not the first day along the usual route. It is likely that a part of the route was "cut off" through the Ukrainian part - ravines, swamps there ... The dill noticed this and prepared a trap - the time coincided very suspiciously! What is called "in the very hole"!

This is more like the truth

[Jacques]

Leave the shaman alone. We are three now, not verified information, like an old vest. There is no exact information, all speculation and rumors. Let's wait for the official announcement.

[Tanechka-clever]

Quote: Oleg Sobol

and wait for more intelligible information on the occasion

I am sure that YOU and all of us will receive official information only after the completion of the negotiations. And INFO will be in the form that will be "polished" for the results of these negotiations. No wonder Putin is today in person at a meeting ...

Today these negotiations will be final and without a "reverse course".
And today's "gingerbread for Poroshenko" will be packed in a package of "two or three side negotiations" and the question of how to present it to the public - EATING - will be resolved. But when we all eat it, then we will draw conclusions ...

[Alexander Romanov]

What kind of source? OBS is, not a source.

[Juborg]

I think one of the warlords of the bosses decided to plant a bream for Putin before the talks in Minsk. A stab in the back, chosen successfully. Bastards.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: juborg

I think someone from the warlords of bosses decided to plant a bream for Putin

Stop nonsense to post.

[Z.A.M.]

Quote: juborg

I think someone from the warlords of bosses decided to plant a bream for Putin, before the talks in Minsk

Again, to Putin, "someone" puts the bream. And again, he did not sleep or spirit. how tired it is already.
But what about this?
“This will probably seem strange to you, but until recently the Ukrainian army regularly received cartridges from Russia. Not being able to receive them from its only cartridge factory, which now remained in Novorossia and now produces cartridges for the militia with special bullets that pierce not only body armor, but and 16-millimeter armor, the Ukrainians, as if nothing had happened, bought ammunition for small arms at the cartridge factories of Russia.Since the beginning of May, the supply of cartridges even increased, and our arms factories were in a hurry to cut down Ukrainian money, supplying cartridges to dill and not supplying them to their own army. However, recently the Verkhovna Rada has done another stupidity: having stopped the supply of military products to the Russian Federation, it simultaneously banned the import of such products from the Russian Federation. "

Source: warfiles.ru

Is that true? False? If true, Putin was not in the know again? Medvedev, the government?
Although these are all rhetorically ridiculous questions.

[Kulakov_Dmitry]

It's all a lie, there were already similar tales.

[ussr1960]

Quote: Z.A.M.

Is that true? False? If true, Putin was not in the know again? Medvedev, the government?
Although these are all rhetorically ridiculous questions.

At least you first got to the source before doing the repost !!!
The source is not warfailes.ru, but www.anaga.ru "Universal portal about everything" - "yellow press", it never turns yellow.
Provider Kazakhstan Almaty City - Almaty - Ps Internet Company Llc

[mihasik]

Quote: master 84

Interrogation of the captured corporal.

Yes, this is a golem fake, and you see each other!
where are you? Where did the video immediately evaporate?)

[Styx]

And along with the name of the author !! It seems that they hacked someone

[pistons]

If this is a fake, I can guess who participated in the main roles ..

Semenchenko writes (stylistics preserved):

Further. I appeal to you people to stop hysteria. Poor boys do not hold out until the morning - a lie. They ended everything, water, food, cartridges - a lie. Yes, there are people who are weak in spirit. The day before yesterday, such 10 people escaped without permission from the city. Their comrades stopped, disarmed, and now there is a treatment with occupational therapy - dig trenches for your comrades. Do not confuse! These are not poor boys, these are the soldiers of Ukraine, this is the elite, unlike those organisms that escaped yesterday exposing our rear.

[Tony bullet]

This is a test !! You just revealed all the plans of the junta))

[Alexander Romanov]

In short, I read komenty and I understand who is what the hell. Now our Defense Ministry should officially speak out and refute it by showing real fighters or admitting it.
We took a dumb habit of being silent, like Putin.

[iConst]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

In short, I read komenty and I understand who is what the hell. Now our Defense Ministry should officially speak out and refute it by showing real fighters or admitting it.
We took a dumb habit of being silent, like Putin.

Yes, it’s clear what’s going on there - fat generals pushing around urgently looking for the extreme. Shoigu is also not a magician to drain the Serdyukov swamp at the moment.

[volot-voin]

Quote: master 84

There will be a stink. For them, it’s a whole carriage of little liver

What a provocation. Strange somehow, all this is not believable. Russia has enough clever means and special services to launch paratroopers illegally into Ukraine and allow them to surrender.

[23 region]

Quote: volot-voin

What a provocation. Strange somehow, all this is not believable. Russia has enough clever means and special services to launch paratroopers illegally into Ukraine and allow them to surrender.

MOSCOW, Aug 26 - RIA News. Russian servicemen detained in Ukraine patrolled a section of the border and probably crossed it by accident; they did not offer resistance to the Ukrainian security forces during the detention, a source in the Russian Defense Ministry said.

RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20140826/1021446691.html#ixzz3BUKuJfkG

[Mahmut]

But what about the border locked. And not just a border, but a border with the belligerent. Since some time the border began to be patrolled by the Airborne Forces. Where were the border guards at that time. If they walked along the path of the border guards, then how could they be outside the territory. Or the smugglers' trail turned out to be more trodden than the one followed by the outfit. If they did not know that they were on the territory of a foreign state, then why did they not show armed resistance to the "violators" of the border. The purpose of their patrol. And why their fathers commanders are still not on the rack.

[Eustace]

PCB, wire keys, etc. on the border between Ukraine and Russia there. Border guards work only at official border crossing points.

[Victorio]

but in fact there is something, how is it that a whole detachment of soldiers, even paratroopers !!!, is 15 km from the border, where are the commanders, where is the connection, where is the promised army glonass? and the fact that Ukrainians will squeeze out of this case everything that is here and discuss something!

[timurpl]

Yes, it’s a fake of pure water, you’ll see even today a refutation of our defense will be given.
-I feel in my gut "ukrnauchfilm" work, not our guys!
- The landing cannot look so thin - not our style, as they say ...
It turns out that the whole squad going to the front surrendered to the lords without a fight ??? RAVE!!!

[mitya24]

Where is this front? In the Pskov region? in the Ryazan region? This is the TERRITORY OF ANOTHER STATE and try to explain to the guys what H.E.R.A. they must die in an unequal battle. And then everyone here is upset, I see that this is not our signature, the landing party does not fight so stupidly. We live in Russia, gentlemen, and we all have to get used to the fact that the phrase "done through the ass" applies not only to roads and cars of fret ..... It's just a shame. I am ashamed to the officer that the MO is babbling about the lack of marking, that the elite unit of our Armed Forces can get lost in three pines. Minus.

[timurpl]

Quote: mitya24

I’m ashamed of the officer

It's a shame for such officers "made through the ass"
-filled himself in the ears of dill propaganda and screamed like a woman
-According to the laws of the military, the time for such alarmists to be put on the wall !!!

[oratai104]

23 years of which 9 years - the complete destruction of everything, including the army; plus the commercialization of everything, including the soul; plus traditional fraud and hatred, as well as such an increase in imitation of activity, through paper scrapping, the mind is incomprehensible. It is a fact. We have just begun to come to our senses and return to our previous positions a little bit. Again, minus it!

[And Us Rat]

Quote: master 84

There will be a stink. For them, it’s a whole carriage of little liver

Some kind of surreal news, either a blank for some cunning plan, or someone monstrously screwed up.
We will look at the development of events.

[Yegorchik]

Ukraine will be forced to return the fighters, thereby confirming the fact that the regular units of the Russian Federation do not participate in battles, plus after they return the Zambian population of Ukraine, they will begin to insert a pendel to the authorities - "how do you say that they are aggressors and return", so that these prisoners are a headache Ukraine and it is necessary to return and return quietly will not leave the population indignant.

[Madcape]

I don't think it's "accidental". Now the parasha will stink about this fact, the rest of the gays from geyrop and pi_ndostan will stink ... BUT THE WAR IS NOT DECLARED !!! Ours simply irritate them with the threat of our troops entering, and with their small "mistakes" make them make big mistakes with the dill, because now the dill will become even more afraid and will not pull back their forces to try to resist the breakthrough and destroy the southern group of the dill VSN (armed forces of Novorossiya).

[Alexander Romanov]

Guys, here's another info from Antimaidan ...
information from the moderator of the AM channel ---
sasch.lobanow201 The people I served in 98 Airborne Forces in 331 regiment !!!!!! called a familiar battalion commander !!! ALL PART in place!
STOP exaggerating the topic.
1. that I’ve been in stock for a long time ... no, it seems .. corporals now ....
2.Here YOU - The Union of Marines paratroopers will now find out everything !!!
http://supermnenie.mirtesen.ru/blog/43343866157/«Soyuz-desantnikov»-proverit-dan
nyie-o-zaderzhanii-rossiyskih-vo? utm_campaign = transit & utm_source = footer & utm_medi
um = page_0 & domain = mirtesen.ru & padw = 1

[Styx]

Exactly, exactly, where did this landing get dried ?? Buchenwald is resting

[Victor R]

There will be no stink. Winter is on the nose. Jackets are needed.

[siberalt]

"According to the Russian Defense Ministry." A link to a certain source from the Ministry of Defense. Until there is an official statement from Russia, then all this is pure fake. Now, all over the Square, they show how Russian servicemen, captured, are asking Russian mothers not to send their children to Ukraine as cannon fodder. And the inhabitants of the cities captured from the militiamen are praying for the Kuevo authorities.

[viktorrymar]

“There were a few reassuring rumors in the panicky rumors. On California, the sailors learned that the Russians were already bombing Tokyo, and there was a rumor among the West Virginia sailors that the Japanese were filling some of their bombs with oyster shells due to a lack of steel. walked among those rescued from "Oklahoma": all those who survived will be given 30 days of vacation.
On the battleship "Maryland" on the ship broadcast announced the sinking of two Japanese aircraft carriers. A wilder version of the story spread through the naval hospital: Pennsylvania captured two Japanese aircraft carriers and towed them to Pearl Harbor. Everyone believed, although everyone knew that Pennsylvania was in a dry dock.
On the Nevada, everyone believed the report that the Japanese had landed on the island, but the army threw them back into the sea. "
Lord W.L. Day of shame

[Kubanist]

I totally support you. Bullshit and provocation. They caught the paratroopers, GY GY GY.

[Ustas]

Kind of weird. On the eve of the talks in Minsk.
Only it seems to me, this is a shitty trump card in the hands of ParAschenko. Militias in near Mariupol will be more substantial.

[222222]

http://dyn.function.mil.ru/news_page/country.htm
on the website of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation there is nothing yet ... information published
http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20140826/1021446691.html#ixzz3BU3vRyJS
.... conversations and promotion of mummies began here. (see from page 373 all the way .. here and refutations and clarifications ..
http://www.prizyvnik.info/threads/140958-v_ch_71211_331_pdp/page374
- page 394 .. "" Fake, 100 percent, for 4min39sec the "paratrooper" made a reservation: instead of - "combat actions" he said "combat diy", though then he recovered ... and blushed ...) "" ""
- page 391 "A captured Russian soldier," who had not yet served in the army, simply became aware when he learned about his capture from UkrOSMI, sitting at home in Yoshkar-Ola.
http://glagol.in.ua/2014/08/25/20-letniy-zhitel-yoshkar-olyi-uznal-iz-ukrainskih
-smi-chto-on-popal-v-plen /

..Maybe and probably went to the replacement of units 106 to ensure the strengthening of the border and humanitarian corridors of refugees ..None photo of the airborne forces without vests ... ???????????

..from the people
https://plus.google.com/105556115120490505985/posts/AjTKxjtVE7g
..
..Maybe and probably went to the replacement of units 106 to ensure the strengthening of the border and humanitarian corridors of refugees ..None photo of the airborne forces without vests ... ???????????
-a and a passenger train .. Trains are on the way from Rostov-on-Don to the city of Kaluga from 22 h 24 min to 23 h 43 min ...

[VAF]

Quote: master 84

For them it’s a whole carriage of little liver

Yes, to hell with them, with dill ...

But for us, what will it be? WHOLE COMPOSITION ..... g.on ???

[gdv]

Ukrainian aero mob is, not Uncle Vasya’s troops !!!!

[Giant thought]

There are a lot of oddities in this matter, which causes vague suspicions about the work of special services, but only whose.

[Ramzaj99]

Su.ka, but when will we openly peck these yellow-blue vyb.lyadok !!! .......

[the polar]

From the “explanatory” Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation (quote from ITAR-TASS):
-----------------------------------
There is nothing on this link to ITAR-TASS.
What the stuff of shit?

[REMBO]

I do not believe. Not true!

[oratai104]

On August 27.08.2014, 450, the President of the Russian Federation answered the question about the prisoners that he had received preliminary information that a group of Russian military personnel had been detained while patrolling the border. But from Ukraine up to XNUMX people came to us and nothing: we received them and sent them back.

[wanderer_032]

Quote: master 84

There will be a stink. For them, it’s a whole carriage of little liver

I personally think that this is all stuffing. Organized by dill. There is no evidence.
As there is no official recognition of our authorities that these people are really Russian military personnel.
But there may be another option.
The children could be sent to strengthen the state border protection to help border guards, and the RGD of dill could easily set up an ambush at the patrol site and capture them.

[avia1991]

Quote: master 84

There will be a stink.

And why, excuse me?

(quote from ITAR-TASS):

When you click on the link, you get to the main page of the ITAR-TASS website, and attempts to find the mentioned "quote" lead nowhere ..

Interrogation of the captured corporal was removed after some time.

When SUCH information appears on YouTube, bloggers immediately take it to their resources, simply deleting "close" such a video will not work.
WHERE SIGNATURE OF THE AUTHOR ?! ADMINISTS, FROM WHERE THERE WAS THERE AN EMISSION ??

[Ilkhan]

Captured Russian paratroopers - this is a pre-planned provocation of the SBU. Source - http://chidag.ru/bezopasnost/obschestvo-smi-internet/plennye-rossiiskie-desantni
ki-na-ukraine-provokacija-sbu.html

[Genur]

Slap it ...

[Cosmos1987]

maybe Russia is probing the soil, Europe has already tasted the fruits of the landslide from America, and America is once again stuck in Iraq, and will not be snorting already ????

[mig31]

They stop in Kiev and stop; one case doesn’t say anything if this is true ...

[DMB-88]

Quote: mig31

They stop in Kiev and stop; one case doesn’t say anything if this is true ...

It is possible that this is a provocation! And the videography is a forgery, too "talkative" and "frank" corporal!
There is something to think about!

[nvv]

Quote: DMB-88

Quote: mig31

They stop in Kiev and stop; one case doesn’t say anything if this is true ...

It is possible that this is a provocation! And the videography is a forgery, too "talkative" and "frank" corporal!
There is something to think about!

Valera, you are always on top.

[muhomor]

Unclear! One car came in, or a convoy? If a column, then where are the others? If one machine, then this can not be called an invasion. Most likely fornication at night in an unfamiliar area. The invasion cannot be led by a corporal-contractor! We must warn Svidomo that if they are to inflate this topic, not a single senior officer of the Armed Forces in the Russian Federation will be saved from militias!

[Warlock_r]

Come on, they have already shouted "wolf" so much that there is every chance that they will not be stupidly believed. Even if this event took place.
But in general, it is very similar to the first move of some kind of operation. They took this unit, and a dozen more could slip into the background.

[ny4ulo]

Who has any thoughts on this? today all day I’ve been trying to find out at least something worthwhile, there weren’t any answers, and more questions = (
And there is also news about 14 paratroopers from Pskov who allegedly fought in Ukraine and died there

[Scandinavian]

What to say, our warriors went to bed .... I don’t see another. I just can’t understand where they got there, it seems like they cleaned all the dill on the border. Or were they taken deep into the DPR?

[avt]

Quote: Scandinavian

What can I say our warriors crawled .... I see no other.

The same crap was in Abkhazia, then a group was dragged into the Zugdidi region that was traveling on an armored personnel carrier. Ivanov then, being the Minister of Defense, already on TV threw caviar - “What are these paratroopers? They didn’t have any weapons? ykrov in the Rostov region.

[23 region]

Quote: Scandinavian

What to say, our warriors went to bed .... I don’t see another. I just can’t understand where they got there, it seems like they cleaned all the dill on the border. Or were they taken deep into the DPR?

Earlier, the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) said that near the settlement of Mirror Amvrosievsky district of Donetsk region, ten servicemen of the 331rd regiment of the 98th Svir division of the Airborne troops of the Armed forces of the Russian Federation were detained. It was alleged that they were detained with personal documents and weapons.
"The Union of Russian paratroopers" intends to find out whether the information is reliable

[23 region]

Quote: Scandinavian

What can I say our warriors crawled .... I do not see another

Yes, it seems ours. But it’s strange where the wrecked equipment is? It is full of labeled aggregates.

[special]

Greetings! Maybe another headache?

[STALGRAD76]

If this is gagging, then by the way it happened so I don’t believe in this version, leaked? but for what and who? the unit should be sent somewhere or not to the warehouse for blankets .......
In general, pitch-black ....

[Buran]

And our army !!!

[Combitor]

Well, it happened! Russian troops invaded Svidomo territory. I can imagine what bacchanalia will now rise in the western and dill (especially) media.
The leaders of the junta have a reason to arrange a grand Bukhalovo.

[ny4ulo]

it happened yesterday. but really there is no data and no stink has been observed either

[shuhartred]

Quote: Kombitor

The leaders of the junta have a reason to arrange a grand Bukhalovo.

Well .... what's next? There was no battle, no war declared, no more border incident. What are the reasons for such great joy? Lost 10 people call the invasion army? Here even Psaki will not believe.

[Ilkhan]

Captured Russian paratroopers - this is a pre-planned provocation of the SBU http://chidag.ru/bezopasnost/obschestvo-smi-internet/plennye-rossiiskie-desantni
ki-na-ukraine-provokacija-sbu.html

[max_brain]

immediately in the news feed a little lower: "The United States will strike at militants in Syria without the approval of Damascus."

[B.T.V.]

And what is this ... ???

[serega.fedotov]

Exchange the guys for the Ukrainian BMP which is already the third month with us!

[Alexei]

Why are you so? Yes, damn it took time to cross someone else’s border. Nehru generally do at the border.

[VNP1958PVN]

Well I say, let's go for the bubble! If there were cartridges, they would have left back, a fact!

[RAU Rostov]

It’s strange. If you went there to fight, how did you get there? After all, were you with weapons? And like the airborne ...

[APS]

It’s very strange if we were going to fight, we wouldn’t have taken them so easily ... It can be assumed that if we have problems with the return of our guys, those who are hidden will no longer cross our border, it's like checking ...

[SERGANT3715]

INCLUDING THE MATTER OF THE AIRCRAFT ... THIS BEFORE THE AIRCRAFT HAS BEEN, AND NOW THE BLUE-HEAD POWERS ...

[volot-voin]

Quote: SERGANT3715

INCLUDING THE MATTER OF THE AIRCRAFT ... THIS BEFORE THE AIRCRAFT HAS BEEN, AND NOW THE BLUE-HEAD POWERS ...

Maybe lately Shoigu also trained the guys with exercises. But r-diaev always enough. And in this case, most likely some kind of provocation. In my right mind, at present in war time I have to tuck into Ukraine, with Russian documents for the whole parade (it’s good to have matryoshka dolls, balalaika and bears) ... this is what kind of dolby .... do you have to be? Something here is not clean.

[81 onwards]

One failure, which can be too expensive ... Or have the SBU freelancers already appeared in the Russian Defense Ministry? ..
Why immediately failure ?? This is a distraction

[Twice RUSSIAN]

If this is true, then our MO provided a very good reason for the stink. Irresponsibility is complete. You can’t do that, brothers.

[bmv04636]

And the position of the Surname can be indicated who declared in the Russian defense min, otherwise it is somehow not clear

[raliv]

It seems that the guys went around for women or to get vodka and got lost.

[father nikon]

Well, fathers-commanders, to the answer!

[special]

Well, to whom now thank you say? Is this a drain of information about the movement of our columns or another headache?

[miv110]

The stench practically did not stop, but the fact is significant and will probably have serious consequences, wait and see!

[Fuse]

Here is another video:

[Fuse]

Interrogation of the Russian paratrooper sergeant Generalov A.N.

[Scandinavian]

He said the most .... in the army they no longer wait for him.

[AlNikolaich]

Quote: Scandinavian

He said the most .... in the army they no longer wait for him.

I watched the video, the same was somewhat surprised ... They call different military units, cities, for a long time they remember the number of the token, the name of the commander of the unit, and on the other hand, exactly according to the arrival dates, settlements. Folding humpback sculpt ... Camouflage unregistered ...
Who in general says, besides ukrov, that these are Russian paratroopers on video? Recorded by the SBU of artists, under the guise of paratroopers, for complacency and fooling its population and the world community, it sends it to everyone!
Too verbose characters ...
I believe that Ukrainians could really detain ten lost our paratroopers, but other people are on the video! Provocation!

[Fuse]

Yes, it is clear that we still need to understand the situation. just as a fact, it is necessary to note the presence of the video and the statement of a certain source in the RF Ministry of Defense. and each may have its own conclusions.

[Styx]

And why I have an unpleasant sensation that they are watching us, maybe a schiz?

[shuhartred]

Quote: Styx

And why I have an unpleasant sensation that they are watching us, maybe a schiz?

As the saying goes: if you are paranoid, it does not mean that you are not being followed. And the film is so good there is "Conspiracy Theory".

[Gunia]

I’m supporting! The fact that these people are far from the landing can be seen right away! Maximum military personnel somewhere near Krasnoyarsk! Who will trust such idiots to distill technology, and even to hohland! Nonsense !!!! It scares another, why did the RF Ministry of Defense recognize this ?! Still, I trust Kuzhugetovich.

[SERGANT3715]

THIS IS JUST TIME OF AIRCRAFT ... CURRENT AIRCRAFT ... I WOULD LIKE TO SERVE IN AIRCRAFT, LOOKING AT THE AFGHANIAN EXPLORATIONS, I HAVE BEEN SERVING ME AT DESANDING ... ON OFFICE I HAVE BEEN DURABLE ... PERSONAL COMPOSITION (BATTALION STATE 50 PERSONALS) FOR 1.5 YEARS I LOST 7 FIGHTERS. I SERVED IN BB !!!

[Scoun]

It already seems to me that the border crossing took place and the interviews were given by the Ukrainians themselves ... otherwise I cannot perceive all the "snot" about living in peace and other things .. the soldier should speak briefly and clearly went to the exercises, got lost, "snot "there should not be about fighting - if you really are not fighting .. everything looks like a substitute ... and I cannot imagine that a Russian soldier would have a weekly stubble. Maybe I'm confusing something?

[Owl27]

Which second generally clearly read the text, follow his eyes. This is a clear statement. And what about their appearance? We have homeless people at the train station more beautiful. Nonsense!

[Fuse]

Naturally, we need official infa from Shoigu or Shamanov, because the video is available, but the fake version cannot be ruled out.

[Styx]

Look what a big-eyed, and also a man seems to have lit up a primer in the corridor of a circus parish school and the bukavak is finally throwing :))))
Karoch, pendo sniki, your run-in fake failed with shame! Go get better, zebroid loshariki

[Leviton]

Something doesn’t agree with me ..... it’s very similar to a setup .... and some paratroopers are generally not very paratroopers ... we will wait for official information

[Curculum]

Quote: LevITon

something doesn’t converge with me ..... it’s very similar to a setup .... and some paratroopers are generally not very paratroopers ...

"Paratroopers" without vests? Nu-nu ... A "morning inspection" canceled in the RF Armed Forces? Ali due to sanctions the blades run out?
Brad.

[Fuse]

Well, so far our MO is silent dill and will frolic with versions. they are already writing that his wife is going for A.N. Generalov.

[gdv]

without vests this is an ukrov aeromob, not the Russian airborne

[Letnab]

h.ren some kind !!! It hurts to sing smoothly, as if everyone had read the memorized text ... They are rightly telling everything, even to those questions that they were not asked! And it seems that all three seemed to see the light and talk about the Slavic brotherhood is ...

[Fuse]

The video is definitely cut. maybe the measures were applied? it is necessary OFFICIAL infa from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

[Styx]

A couple of minutes of captivity and such an upheaval of self-consciousness :)))) pen to sy-cue authors of the script :))) and finally, what disantura is this type of dried Heracles dried ?? I'm not very used to these not our size

[mitya24]

And if you saw a pumped-up two-meter blond in a vest, clean-shaven with a tattoo "For the Airborne Forces" on the palm of your hand, would you believe it right away? Don't tell my socks. I live in Ryazan and, unfortunately, I can state the fact that lately there are more and more people wearing blue berets.

[Styx]

This is young, fatten, sway and everything will be a bunch :)) and the greens just would not have been sent to anywhere. But finally, is it not necessary to monitor the airborne forces? The parachute will not blow away? :)))
Here is another interesting thing for me: everything is clear with Ryazan, but where is the part of the airborne forces in Kostroma? Enlighten, please, girl

[Gunia]

Almost ALL the units previously based in the Baltic states are now located there. My brother-in-arms was a foreman there. But these are clearly not from there, is it possible that the army crushed it for 15 years ?!

[gdv]

but the video does not have chakhliki in berets! and along the way, not two-meter blondes agree that the actors are sluggish even by appearance, not talking about some informational aspects

[Tima]

Yes, what is this vtv-shnik, this is some kind of drug addict. Not shaved, obviously hungover or stoned ...

[Kulakov_Dmitry]

I do not believe! In the theater he would immediately scream and go home! Ukrainians do not want to negotiate with Putin, more precisely, the United States does not want to negotiate with Putin. The militias will have to take Kiev!

[anima]

It seems really ours. They quickly understood something about the cities with monuments and the lies of the Russian media. It can be seen that the guys were cool when the BMD was burned in front of their eyes. But they knew where they were going, or really got lost in the green - this is a question. Maybe because they got lost and were not psychologically ready for a real fight and broke so quickly? In general, the situation is strange. It really seems like some kind of glitch. Everything is always smooth on paper, what ukrov has, what we have, and real gullies and greenery are for everyone.

[Akvadra]

Quote: anima

It seems really ours. They quickly understood something about the cities with monuments and the lies of the Russian media. It can be seen that the guys were cool when the BMD was burned in front of their eyes. But they knew where they were going, or really got lost in the green - this is a question. Maybe because they got lost and were not psychologically ready for a real fight and broke so quickly? In general, the situation is strange. It really seems like some kind of glitch. Everything is always smooth on paper, what ukrov has, what we have, and real gullies and greenery are for everyone.

It does not seem, but really yours - ukroheroi!

[expert2008]

Somehow too much time this captivity happened and these interrogation videos appeared. Today, the vice president of urine meets in Minsk with Vladimir Putin ... It looks like a setup.

[Scoun]

Pipelats what the corporal says. What the hell is he talking about some kind of propaganda?

[ochakow703]

And these are paratroopers ??? !!! Shame !!! Provided if it is true. Their holiday is not on August 2, but on March 8. All airborne disgraced.

[Yrsh.2008]

This is not a landing, but a kindergarten! I think provocation banderlogov, but I would like official comments from Shamanov

[Akvadra]

With such a chain and a cross you can put a company of dill! Since when to wear such a tzatsk in the Airborne Forces has not been rejected?

[Siberian 19]

And what about them for chlamydas? And what the vests wear only on holidays? What kind of dregs.

[shuhartred]

Quote: Sibiryak 19

And what for them for mantle?

In my opinion, this is the "Palm" of the 1944 model.

[doctor]

Return the guys.

[Styx]

Well, no, we don’t need a stranger;

[Federal]

They didn’t take them prisoner in military operations, of course, let them stop and stop.

[ochakow703]

This is normal? Captured landing? The landing is getting smaller, since there are such shots.

[asv96]

especially when asked again and where is the data on the Boeing?

[Dimkin]

Oops .... unexpected, well, now everything will start to stink go from all angles. Okay, let's see who is most afraid of us, that will stink more.

[Telakh]

Again, the ZhPS "twisted" a couple of kilometers to the left?

[Veteran of the Red Army]

If the paratroopers entered the territory of Ukraine by accident, then the question is, what the hell, and who monitors the observance of the order of border patrol? In general, the whole story with the capture of the Russian military and the revelations of the Ministry of Defense looks like a frank drain of Russian interests.

Something very muddy story.

[schizophrenic]

Quote: Veteran of the Red Army

Something very muddy story

Very muddy, similar to sounding the soil.

[KazaK Bo]

Something very muddy story.

Indeed ... it looks like a deliberate set-up of V. Putin and Poroshenko ... A stab in the back ... accidentally or deliberately ... but ... Now V. Putin will have to "scuffle" a little bit in front of this bandit president ....

[DMB-88]

Yes, this is embarrassment !!! Are there really not enough border guards? Now the whole world will stink! It remains only to say that the territory on which our paratroopers were belonged to Russia !!!

[Rider]

Those who sent them to patrol the tribunal. corrupt.

[sinukvl]

Well, what the hell ?! Already or would send troops to the full or would not have entered! Anyway, you could be silent for a couple of days! What did the fifth column draw in the Ministry of Defense?

[Vend]

But is this negligence, sabotage, or a thoughtful move interesting?

[rotmistr60]

However, all these excuses no longer cancel the grandiose joy of Kiev about what happened. After all, if the fact of the presence on the territory of the “independent” Russian military was recognized by the Russian Ministry of Defense itself, then this is a super-reason for the grand persecution of Russia.

What is it - negligence, sloppiness or something else?
Either one p.Ridurok uploads photographs of him "hammering out howitzers at u.kropii", then as many as 10 people get to u.krams. Who to ask?

[RAU Rostov]

And somehow very timely, today in Minsk, a meeting with dill ...

[23 region]

Quote: RAU Rostov

And somehow very timely, today in Minsk, a meeting with dill ...

[novobranets]

Now svidomye will smash - "Help! Attack! Attacked, killed, robbed. The Airborne Division killed 1000 patriots." Ugh. But what infection gave them such a holiday? Have you forgotten how to read maps?

[zone72]

what the hell is this * paratrooper carrying this paratrooper as the last traitor .or again drowning

[Yellow white]

Right now the stars then fly from someone ....

[muhomor]

And they will fly right! The fighters are dressed, God knows what! Not shaved for five days! Where are the shirts? Who instructed the "convoy escorts" and how?

[zsdk]

Not stars should fly, but heads. With the deprivation of benefits and housing.

[Landwarrior]

The border is not marked in kind, but the landscape ... I admit that by chance persecle. It is a pity that Ukrainians will not act like ours with that BMP at Millerovo, but they will raise a stink. They would have let go quietly, like our Ukrainians ...
However, by doing this, they are building bridges for their warriors; now they will not treat and feed them with Russia.

However, all this may be fake - the English-speaking CNN and BBC are silent for some reason.

[rotmistr60]

If there is a patrol by the military personnel of the Ministry of Defense, then a senior border guard (as a rule, a sergeant, formerly of the old servicemen), who knows the area and the "line" perfectly well, must be assigned.

[Flinky]

This is strange, yes. About the nonexistent "Buk" of the Russian air defense immediately a howl rose ...

[saag]

Somehow they got into it very on time, just during a meeting in Minsk

[SRC P-15]

Quote: saag

Somehow they got into it very on time, just during a meeting in Minsk

Someone really does not want peace!

[Sasha Major]

the landing is in captivity !!! the campaign is some kind of young !!! KILLED WITH FOOT FIGHT ON KNEELS !!! STAND UP YOU CAN'T LIE GO !!! Why did you GIVE UP AT ALL ???

[SPACE59]

Maybe it's good that there was no shooting. If there was a fight, the scandal would have come out grandiose. On the other hand, the fact that the paratroopers were captured becomes a shame.

[STALGRAD76]

Maybe ordered to do so ??? NOT?

[Draz]

A cursory examination of the website of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation did not find confirmation of these "news"

[Victor R]

It looks like a cover for a convoy. There was no team to fight. Yes, prone to Khokhlov.

[SNB]

I can’t understand yet what it is, how it could have happened and what it smells like, but it’s getting nasty inside.

[gas113]

Chet is not like Russian paratroopers. In theory, the dolins were to take the border guards with their bare hands and trophies home ...

A case from the life of the Airborne Forces: Margelov received a call from the police - "Drunk paratroopers have been detained. Yours?"

"No, not mine"
After 3 hours, another call: "the paratroopers overslept, beat the convoy and disappeared"
"These are mine"

[Hleb]

if he had served in the army, he wouldn’t have invented illusions. Or is it easier to live? Are the landings not people or what? Or do you want to say all the heroes there? You don’t seem to see the devils and deserters yet, but they are everywhere and in Airborne forces too

[Den77]

If crossed with intent, then the legs of the SBUshnikov would never walk again on the Ukrainian land ....

[Arbatov]

Sloppiness. Normal, but unforgivable.

[zzz]

Quote: Arbatov

Sloppiness. Normal, but unforgivable.

No, not excusable! And not sloppiness! Now there is such a situation on the border that there can be no place for sloppiness! Someone thought of them, maybe someone incited them. In the end, they gave money ...There are no accidents in life.

[23 region]

Quote: zzz

Someone thought of them, maybe someone incited them. In the end, they gave money ... There are no accidents in life.

Also, thoughts in my head are not good. Really for "pennies"?

[andj61]

Quote: zzz

Someone thought of them, maybe someone incited them. In the end, they gave money ... There are no accidents in life.

Or stole from our territory peacefully resting gouging! There is no real border there.

[mitya24]

Is randomness an unknown regularity?

[andrey56]

Recall to them the case of a stalled APC and not react strongly. Let the dog bark, but the caravan will go anyway! While the caravan will bark, it will reach our Kiev!

[kit-kat]

This is treason!

[killganoff]

Stink alone will not do. There is a setup, a provocation.

[tanit]

On the website of ITAR-TASS they write "This was reported to ITAR-TASS by a source in the Ministry of Defense." - but who it is, this source, ITAR-TASS does not report. Looks like terribly mysterious. However, the cleaning lady in the MO corridor is also, apparently, a source.
By the way, by the way, tell me, have the vests in the landing been canceled long ago? And when did you enter 5-digit personal numbers?

[Akvadra]

Quote: tanit

On the website of ITAR-TASS they write "This was reported to ITAR-TASS by a source in the Ministry of Defense." - but who it is, this source, ITAR-TASS does not report. Looks like terribly mysterious. However, the cleaning lady in the MO corridor is also, apparently, a source.
By the way, by the way, tell me, have the vests in the landing been canceled long ago? And when did you enter 5-digit personal numbers?

And instead of numbers, chains and crosses were introduced, like those of priests. Even the laces of the detainees are taken away. And such a cross can kill many people.

[tanit]

I mean that the personal number is 6-digit. Format "Letter" dash 6 (six) digits. And not 5, like this "paratrooper"

[2k11]

... Depending on the specified category of user, enter the personal number of the serviceman (format: one or two Russian letters, not case sensitive, a dash and six digits) or SNILS of a civil servant (format: 11 digits without spaces and dashes); ...

taken from the MO site (instructions for registration in your account)

[smershxnumx]

Quote: Veteran of the Red Army

Something very muddy story.

I have not found any official statements of the RF Ministry of Defense on this fact ... And quoting / linking to an unknown / anonymous source is a thankless task. In general, I will say this: this supposedly transition is "pysyam.m.i. on vilyano water". IMHO.

[priest58]

I have not found official statements of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on this fact.

All news agencies refer to an anonymous source of the ITAR-TASS news agency, although this is most likely true.

[African]

See - http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1921249&cid=7

[Mig 31]

I completely agree! Many questions with documents and what is the most interesting stuffing into the press before the talks and the video in my opinion has already been prepared?

[revnagan]

Quote: Mig 31

and what is the most interesting stuffing in the press before the talks and the video in my opinion has already been prepared?

Exactly, straight "the piano in the bushes." No, brothers, as one famous bear said: "Well, it's not for nothing!" Well, if they really got lost, what's wrong with that? They didn't shoot at the Ukrainians, they didn't support the militias .It happens.

[sinukvl]

Find out the surname, name and patronymic of this informer from the Ministry of Defense. It’s necessary to take its FSB into good circulation, there are a lot of coincidences.

[maxxdesign]

Yes, there is no snitch from the Ministry of Defense! .. do not know how journalists write articles in the kitchen, with beer? some kind of psakism ... sources said ... those who wished to remain anonymous ... everywhere one unknown ... it all looks like the equation (x + y + z = paratroopers) and under "x", "y" and "z" you can substitute anything .. if only the answer was (paratroopers)

[curl]

интересуюсь,на каком участке ГС это произошло,знает кто?

[gdv]

по ходу где то под киевом этот участок! из той же оперы про посла из Литвы или Латвии зажували уже ,(у посла медальон, у Шпака магнитафон! а после Боинга так я быстрее поверю что это вообще инопланетные ВДВ какието срочники по 35 лет запохмеленные и не бритые как бомжи и без тельняшки!! дас из нихт ВДВ, дас из аэромобилы укров! палюбому!!)

[wladimir]

Очень странно, что военнослужащие пересекли границу и то что быстро откликнулось МО РФ. пахнет провокацией, теперь уже со стороны чиновников России

[Mugerets]

Бухарей каких то нашли. Чушь несусветная.

[ImIooImI]

Странные десантники... Все рассказали! "Язык мой - враг мой!"©
Имя -фамилия и личный номер! Вот максимум раскрытой инфы! Да и то не стоит даже это раскрыть врагу!

[IAlex]

Вот что значит иметь непроверенных на лояльность свидомых хохлов в РФ, они не только демонстративно устряют подставу нам же, так еще и нас утопят...

[Underwood]

А по-моему, у казуса слабоват потенциал для мега-раскрутки yкpoжoпыми. Ну, зашли на территорию в немаркированном месте. Ну, тиснут ykpoжoпыe ноту. На вторжение не тянет. Соплей, конечно, будет в достатке.

[Patriot 1]

Вообще бред какой-то. Если этот участок ни как не обозначен,то и ошибки могут быть с обоих сторон. Может это укропская ДРГ к нам зашла и на нашей территории задержание провели...
А кто видел или слышал официальное признание МО РФ кроме этого источника?

[Ermak]

Цитата: ImIooImI

Странные десантники... Все рассказали! "Язык мой - враг мой!"©
Имя -фамилия и личный номер! Вот максимум раскрытой инфы! Да и то не стоит даже это раскрыть врагу!

Еще и личную оценку ситуации на Украине высказали...

[INFOLegioner]

это больше всего и настораживает в их поведении. уж слишком заливисто-говорливые вояки украм попались в сети. поют как по нотам аж не остановишь, и такое поют что и в сладких снах СБУ даже и не снилось.

[Demon_blood]

Quote: filutek

интересуюсь,на каком участке ГС это произошло,знает кто?

Пишут что задержали в поселке Зеркальный, амвросиевского района, донецкой области. Он более в 20 км. от границы с РФ.

[Lyton]

Это точно десантники, каким образом их так легко в плен взяли, нужно подтверждение информации.

[Dragon-y]

У офицеров 6-значные... не считая буквы.

[345pdp]

парни всё там нормально не переживайте. так было задумано

[Noki51177]

Да не будут в европе такие мелочи обсуждать. Всем и так уже известно, что ето сша на Украине пакoстит.

[Serega125]

Ну и кто теперь скажет,что укропы дураки своих за деньги сливают?

[Noki51177]

Да не будут в европе такие мелочи обсуждать. Всем и так уже известно, что ето сша на Украине пакoстит.

[Khan]

Официальных данных нет от МО РФ, а снять можно всё что угодно да ещё в преддверии саммита. Это операция спецслужб Украины но корявая сама по себе.Источник не назван в МО РФ ,а журналистам надо пользоваться проверенной информацией и не нагнетать обстановку спокойствие и только спокойствие.

[SVD]

Quote: raliv

It seems that the guys went around for women or to get vodka and got lost.

Вот если там им физиономию почистят хорошенько - будет урок. А так по закону, думаю и дезертирство могут пришить, ведь ушли на территорию другого государства.
А вообще думаю, что подарок сделали Киеву к дню незаалежности и к переговорам в Минске.

[511]

Подстава однозначно.Эти ребята не десантники.Не знаю кто они,может артисты может переодетые пьянь продажная,но точно не росийский десантник.

[Kubanist]

Какие-то мутные эти десантники. Что-то я не помню среди нашей военной формы "кенгурушки" как на на человеке с видео. Думаю это провокация, так как документы можно сделать любые и кому угодно. А наличие воинской части с таким номером, тоже секретом большим не является. Подстава это грязная, не наши это.

[curl]

дааа,тот ещё пряничек...

[Division]

о господи...что за И.Д.И.О.Т.Ы. там в МИНОБОРОНЕ?Если все таки решили помогать ополченцам,то вводите армию,а не 10 человек.Щяс погоны полетят...

[DAGESTAN333]

Ничего страшного, молодой парень сориентировался как мог. Лишь бы инвалида не сделали из него. Держись братишка! Наши тебя там не оставят! Они вежливые на камеру, а потом могут и почки опустить пацану.

[mojohed2012]

К вечеру услышим улыбающихся хунтовских чиновников с грозными речами - мол "вот доказательство участия РФ в войне против нас - само МО РФ признало"
Далее к травле присоединяется Псаки, далее Кэмерон, далее Канада, Австралия, Прибалтика и ЕС.
Все - к понедельнику ждем новой волны санкций.
Сценарий отработан уже. Только аль, что сами мы лоханулись и такой подарок дали им. гадам.

[perfect100]

Ошибки и распиз.дяйство и в десантуре никто не отменял. Скорее всего действительно заехали не туда. Если бы ехали воевать с оружием в руках и с боевой задачей, было бы всё по-другому. Видимо, были уверены, что на нашей стороне. Может быть и верно сделали, что не стали оружие применять. Очень я сомневаюсь, чтобы штатных десантников с оружием, на БМД и с документами отправили на боевую задачу на украину... А то, что десантура оказалась на границе с украиной, так это правильно, война же идет по-серьёзному! А десантура как раз войска быстрого реагирования, учения постоянно, мало ли что... погранцов одних негоже оставлять.

[shimus]

Десантники сказали то, что им сказали сообщить укропам!
Раз перешли границу, значит надо было с точки зрения тактики!

[lambert]

Как получать боевые все горазды. А как отрабатывать деньги которые тебя платять, так сразу выбирают свободу. Так что идеи нет, а деньги идею не заменят.

[Krsk]

Could it be a fake?

[Dmitriy1975]

Ребята, Вы чего? Вы поверили в это? Какие десантники, какое патрулирование?

[Stas1]

Очень как то в одну тему все три рассказа. Как то всё это с душком. Больно идеологически "подкованы" на украинский манер. Похоже на какую-то постановку. Только цель пока
не ясна.

[Victor R]

Зима скоро, ватников на всех не хватит, торгуются.

[Tanechka-clever]

" И вообще вся эта история с пленением российских военных и откровениями Минобороны выглядит как слив российских интересов"..

а мне это напоминает когда в самом начале еще пытались захватить в Донецке аэропорт и расстреляли много российских граждан - и там оказались предатели и слив. Аналогии - страшная вещь.....

[tracker]

Согласен, американцы с СБУ провели отличную операцию в донецком аэропорту ну сейчас похоже

[DMB-75]

В 41 также всё начиналось, только теперь Россия другая, а эти пряники пусть засунут себе в 21.

[Loner_53]

Ты смотри, прям так быстро наших десантников пленили.П Р О В А К А Ц И Я !!!
Я бы, не одного укровояку после пересечения нашей границы не вернул назад.А задействовал на общественных работах,по корчеванию пней в тайге.С применением кирок и лопат!

[tracker]

Лично видел на канале "Эспрессо" видео с допросом. И на цензоре полно сообщений с видео. Десантура облажалась по полной, заехали и сдались как сопляки.

[Victor R]

Да, это вовсе не наши, наши вчера сь за горилкой ездили. В самоволке рота была, вернулись вроде все...

[maximus235]

Канал эспрессо (это кофе чтоли?) и цензор - у нас теперь источник непререкаемой истины?
Уже два слова: цензор и эспрессо - и все становиться ясно.

[Aslan]

Что за н.а.х.е.р,похожа на провокацию,хунта должна иметь хотя какой то козырь к Минским переговорам после провала на фронтах,вот и нашли под рукой десантников.

[1961NNN]

И ЭТО ВДВ!!! ШАМАНА Н...Р В ОТСТАВКУ!!!ОБОСРАЛИСЬ!!!"

[gispanec]

или я .урак или лыжи не едут.....но все както очень плохо пахнет.....

[a-cola]

Ничего себе десантники. Номер части запомнить не могут))) Полностью смотреть не стал. Все понятно. Читают с бумажки, которую кто то держит за кадром. Очередной псакинг от укропов.

[barbiturate]

да чето както не тянет на вторжение, 10 заблудившихся солдат, небось не туда повернули и всего делов, требовать немедленного освобождения и передачи солдат домой, можно обменять на их тучные стада, которые сбежали в Россию) На самом деле этого стоило ожидать, когда ведутся боевые действия на сопредельной территории и вдоль границы катаются усиленные патрули, то рано или поздно ктонить не туда заедет однозначно, история об этом четко рассказывает

[La hire]

Что за бред, б***ь? Десантники, какого-то хрена патрулирующие границу, безымянный источник в Минобороны... Не верю.

[lord]

Да уж, дюже мутная история...

[O. Bender]

спокейно граждане!Пока нет заявлений от официальных представителей МО РФ че волны гнать.?

[Division]

я так понимаю,что их командир засланец...и отправил ребят типа на "учения".Короче х**** нам будет,ибо не докажем,что это не специально.

[region46]

кстати прочитал на цензоре одну новость
http://censor.net.ua/photo_news/299613/v_pskove_pohoronili_ubityh_v_ukraine_sold
at_76yi_desantnoyi_divizii_foto
обычно у украинских сми много вранья, но надо признать и у нас не всё договаривают

[pvv113]

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation does not deny that the detainees are Russian servicemen, however, they claim that the fighters crossed the border by accident.

Товарищи, а кто видел, слышал или читал официальное "неотрицание" МО РФ? Если да - дайте ссылку. А если нет - то откуда ноги растут?

[La hire]

Вот именно. А пока что у нас есть только неназванный источник в Минобороны (в РИА Новости его так и называют - "источник"), ограничивающийся жалкими "извините" и "сам такой".

[maximus235]

А может просто дядя мимо здания МО проходил и ляпнул в шутку: типа десантура заблудилась

[zadorin1974]

Вот это НОВОСТЬ !!!!Все как то пахнет БОЛЬШОЙ КАКАШКОЙ.Мое мнение что или нашим ВС поставили задачу сделать такую постанову(БМД то подбили,бойцов запугали-видно что некоторые ответы они просто зачитывают за спиной оператора-самое интересное что они без офицера и не оказывали сопротивления)что бы показать что нам все до пояса или просто очередное раздолбайство(в стиле анекдота про сокрашение ракет и пьяного лейтенанта)

[maximus235]

Фото подбитой БМД с бортовым номером в студию! А? Что? как нет?
Ну тогда идите на х...

[komrad.klim]

тут вот фото остальных есть, но тема мутная

http://www.yaplakal.com/forum3/topic898413.html

[Mugerets]

Да ё моё, лажа это всё, нет официального подтверждения. Десантники обосрались, не десантура облажалась, а вы повелись. Мляха муха не дай Бог с такими как вы в разведку пойти (( . Шеф гипс снимают, клиент уезжает, тьфу...

[Victor R]

Да, похоже на наше прикрытие гумконвоя. Не думаю, что это факт военной агрессии со стороны РФ. Фронтового наступления нет. Численность роты десанта - не наступление. Упоминание о колонне продолжения не имеет. Маркировка техники сопровождения белыми кругами говорит о решении оперативной локальной задачи. Серьёзных военных последствий не будет. Украина не создала безопасный коридор конвою. Россия это выполнила своими силами. Легально это сделать было невозможно. Сам конвой с техникой, содержимым и людьми тоже не пряник Украине за 5 копеек. Уничтожение русских пора прекращать! И Россия это сказала!

[aszzz888]

ДА ЗАЛИПУХА ЭТО!!!
ЧЕГО ВЫ ВСЕ В ПАНИКУ БРОСИЛИСЬ!!!???
ВЫ ПОСЛУШАЙТЕ СЛОВА(особенно первый)ЧИСТОЙ ВОДЫ П О Д С Т А В А!!!

[Russ69]

В Донецке, наводчицу к столбу поставили, на обозрение...

[23 region]

Quote: Russ69

В Донецке, наводчицу к столбу поставили, на обозрение...

Её б в клетку. А то местные могут и прибить. И охрана не поможет.