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Happy Independence Day: Russia in the mirror of Ukraine

Happy Independence Day: Russia in the mirror of Ukraine

24 August, the remnants of the Republic of Ukraine, decomposed into neo-feudal oligarchic domains - the parliamentary republic of Euromaidan and the authoritarian Dnepropetrovsk Kaganate - traditionally celebrate Independence Day.

This fetish holiday is on a par with the same meaningless red calendar days in any fragment of post-union Eurasia. Each republic exchanged federal sovereignty for national “independence”. After that, each new entity went on its way to exchange the remnants of sovereignty for independence. Someone, like Moldova, Georgia and Tajikistan, immediately plunged into a civil war. Someone came out of the darkness of national development in 1994, like Belarus, someone in 1999, like Russia.

Each of the national paths was different from each other, but they were all the same according to the method - integration into the global project on the rights of the periphery.

But since citizens constantly buzzed and threatened to arrange a “red revenge” in the next elections within the framework of electoral democracy, they had to fetishize “independence”.

The Ukrainian case of “independence” is not unique in the method of integration into a global project and in bringing the state to collapse. But it is indicative - when even complete bourgeois understand that civil war is not somewhere far in mountain Badakhshan, but here and now. And the oligarchy is not polished, smiling people from the gossip, but specific ghouls, ready to drown the cauldron of civil war with your neighbors and with you.

Ukrainian “independence” is a way of reflection for an ordinary citizen who did not want to be interested in politics, being absorbed by the joy of consumption and credit. And to which reflection came in the form of Ukraine.

Therefore, it is necessary to draw the right conclusions from the Ukrainian “independence” - for the Ukrainian collapse can happen even in Russia, even in Belarus, or in Kazakhstan. Because in reality the case is not "Bandera", "pravosekah" Poroshenko, Kolomoisky and Yanukovych. At stake is the question of genuine sovereignty, which Russia and allies must gain. Accordingly, the issue in the socio-economic model of society and the state - a model that is able to provide such sovereignty. Because if this is not done, the crisis according to the Ukrainian scenario will sooner or later be launched in Russia. Because between the socio-economic models of Ukraine and Russia are much more common than different.

Therefore, it makes sense to deal with the fact that, in fact, lies behind the fetishized “independence”.

Peripheral "Square" economy

All история “Square” Ukraine is the path laid down in the allied policy of Mikhail Gorbachev: the desire to get into the “civilized” world.

In ideology and rhetoric, this meant that "we will live in Europe and the USA." And in the economy, this meant that we are joining the global game in the world market. Where we define our place, for which the ruling elite receives its financial rent and becomes a handshake.

In Russia, this model was aptly named "oil in exchange for pleasure." In Ukraine, oil can be replaced by "coal and metal." But this does not change the essence - the economy, as it was peripheral to the emission center, remains so.

Attempting to protect your market within the framework of the Customs Union is the right, but really insignificant, step towards true sovereignty.

The next step - the Eurasian Economic Union - also does not solve the problem of full economic sovereignty. Because today, Eurasian integration still follows the rules and principles of world trade - that is, ultimately, it still plays in favor of the global market, where Russia is a peripheral economy.

Privatization as a true goal

The second characteristic of “independence” is the absence of sovereign economic policy as a way of designing and managing the future.

The state is seen as a relic of the past, which must be removed from the game. By and large, all politics comes down to a discussion between the Social Democrats, who believe that the state should at least regulate social policy, and the liberals, who believe that the state should be silent in a rag.

But, despite stormy discussions, such a political model still leads to squeezing the state out of economic and, as a result, from political life.

Therefore, the whole essence of “independence” is privatization as the only political and economic process.

The alienation of state ownership of the production of the means of production is the goal and means of any policy of “independence”. The rhetoric and pretexts can change from election to election - then we need an “effective owner”, then we need to “not allow a red back”, then we “look for additional sources of investment” - but the essence does not change.

The Ukrainian case is a vivid example of where total privatization and dismantling of the state lead. There are even more vivid examples - say, Georgia, but due to the small size of the state, the processes went unnoticed, and the disaster was attributed to the psychopathy and corruption of Saakashvili.

National parasitic capitals

The third pillar of any “independence” is the reformatting of national capitals into regional branches of the emission center. The peripheral model of the economy requires a special type of national capital - which is more like a bank branch than a city. And it is very little like the capital.

The “capital” capital should, first of all, provide legal support for the financial flows “periphery - global market - emission center” and be a place of comfortable living for national officials and the oligarchy.

Therefore, by and large, there is no special functional difference between national capitals - just the Moscow branch is much larger than the Kiev branch and hundreds of times larger than the Chisinau and Bishkek branches.

As long as our economy is a peripheral economy and we cannot ensure financial sovereignty, our capitals will not fulfill the development objectives. Because a person is weak and the temptation for an official to parasitize on financial flows will always be above the fear of punishment. Moreover, the severity of Russian laws is compensated for by their selective use - as we can see from the example of the former defense minister and the Moscow mayor.

“Square” capital of the parasitic type is not just a brake on the development of the whole country. The capital always performs the function of an example to follow. And if in Moscow 30-years Stalin's skyscrapers were built and the metro was launched in record time, similar processes were observed throughout the country from Uzhgorod to Vladivostok.

And if in Moscow the central processes are spot building in the historic center, the annual shifting of asphalt and curb in the same place, the reproduction of pathos restaurants and boutiques, the construction of shopping centers, paid parking and the work of illegal immigrants - then similar processes will take place in other cities.

Actually, all the ugliness of the development of our cities on the peripheral model is clearly visible in subsidized regional centers - the routes of intra-district electric trains are closed, and dozens of taxi services appear in return.

The degradation of the capital as a bank branch and a vip-consumption center is the most important process of “independence”, which sooner or later leads to Maidan, tahrir and marsh.

From elite to elitist

Accordingly, the peripheral socio-economic model leads to the fact that the state loses not only property and sovereignty. Gradually, a stratum of traitorous-minded elites is being formed - a class of national elitist.

This type of people appears during the merging of business and public administration. Corruption in the context of a peripheral socio-economic model becomes the only incentive.

It is useless to fight corruption within the country in which elitist people raise their children abroad. And they do it because they bring profits there. And they cannot withdraw profit from the periphery - because the economic model is as follows. Why keep money at the branch if you can do it at the head office?

Therefore, the problem of elite degradation in the elitist is unsolvable in the framework of the current economic model. An elitist is a type of post-union person who regards his tenure as a compulsory duty on the way to real life. Life, which is located in warm latitudes, where everyone goes in white pants. In the peripheral model, Russia is a kind of “watch” in the far North - which must be defended.

In the Ukrainian example, you can see that the elitist will sooner or later crush the state. After that, an open oligarchy is approved.

Peripheral model of the economy will always strive for political design in the oligarchy. And the oligarchy will naturally lead to a rollback to the new Middle Ages - because private individuals, privatizing the state in parts, will strive to pass their part of power and property on. And since there are many such individuals in the oligarchy, sooner or later the country will fall into neo-feudal plots. What we, in fact, can see on the example of the Ukrainian crisis.

... 24 August owners of the remnants of Ukraine frantically celebrate Independence Day - paint fences and bridges in yellow and blue, looking for traitors everywhere, fighting in a patriotic hysteria and trying to present a civil war to the homeland. The future that these people have predetermined to unfortunate Ukrainian citizens is extremely bleak. Therefore, they need war, so that citizens feel happy, if only because they do not kill them. For the same reasons, the need to fetish "independence" - so that a citizen does not even think to think about the essence of sovereignty. And he didn’t ask the only right question: “Where is the state, and who are all these people?”

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  1. master 84
    master 84 26 August 2014 14: 16
    The last holiday in your ukrofashistsky den
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 26 August 2014 14: 20
      Read comrades! This is something! Wounded at the fifth point Semenchenko threatens Kiev!
      Semen Semenchenko: If there is no movement of troops before 14-00, you must start picketing the Ministry of Defense

      I understand Volodya Parasyuk, who "has never been in such a heat before." And we were. Lisichansk, Popasnaya, the first Ilovaisk - all this is behind us. And Volodya will get used to it. Hold on, brother. Now the main thing is to stop hysterics, including among the fighters. And it succeeded inside the city. The peacemaker is doing well. The Kherson battalion lost its commander, the Donbass took him under its wing, the Svityaz battalion, there were problems with management, they decided that the Dnieper battalion was holding on. To be honest, what are the main losses? There is a mortar shelling, commanding a shelter, and the boys calmly smoke. Front-line soldiers bl ..., my relatives, well, when will we learn to be afraid, afraid in the military sense of the word ...

      Of course there will be screams on Facebook from unstable and weak in spirit, from unshooted fighters from random people or simply temporarily losing control of themselves. Believe me. So far, if you stop hussing with rodents in UAZs around the city or smoking on the street during mortar shelling - you can hold on there. Separs have managed no less than some of ours. Remember how long Slavyansk, Gorlovka held on. Are we worse? Are we second-class people? We are Ukrainians in the end! But what to do and how you can help, I will write to you now.

      To whom I contacted:
      1) To the President
      2) To the Minister of Defense
      3) to the Minister of the Interior
      4) to the Deputy Minister of the Interior
      5) to the commander of the National Guard
      6) to the deputy commander of the National Guard
      7) to the sector commander
      8) To the head of the special operations department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs
      9) to the commanders of individual units and subunits

      An armored brigade went yesterday and couldn’t break through according to them. Today they promised to strengthen the group. Now everything depends on the ATO commander and the Minister of Defense. They must be pressed. As an option, everyone connect the President. If there is no movement of troops before 14-00, one must start picketing the Ministry of Defense. Write to the page of the Ministry of Defense and the President, he really can force them. It will not help - we will act tougher

      PS I have an operation now, if I don’t leave before 14, organize and act independently. And no panic! This can only do harm. Hard pressure at the right points. Which - I wrote. Who has the will to act - act. Glory to Ukraine
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 26 August 2014 14: 24
        DNR militia took control of Saur-Grave

        Previously, Saur-Mogila, which is a mound, passed from hand to hand from militias to the National Guard and vice versa. Earlier, from this highest point in the Donetsk region, representatives of the Ukrainian army could control the movements of militias.

        According to Life News reporters, the interception of the Cyrus Graves could be considered a turning point in the fighting. Now militia forces are watching from this point over the redeployments of the Ukrainian armed forces. In fact, this means that the DNR forces won another victory in an attempt to encircle the National Guard.
        1. Turik
          Turik 26 August 2014 14: 30
          I looked today at the Russian service of BIBISI and SIENEN - everywhere they are ringing that near Ilovaisk, the army of Ukrostan is scheduled for Staligrad:

          Ukrainian security officials confirmed that they were surrounded near Ilovaisk (a city in the Donetsk region). This was reported by RIA "Novosti" with reference to the commander of the battalion of security forces "Donbass" Semyon Semenchenko.

          According to Semenchenko, in Ilovaysk there are currently units of the Donbass National Guard Guard battalion, the Svityaz Interior Ministry battalion, the Mirotvorets Interior Ministry battalion, the Dnipro Interior Ministry battalion and the Kherson Interior Ministry battalion.

          Semenchenko also said that in the Donbass, the commander of the battalion of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine "Kherson" Ruslan Storchius was killed.

          Earlier, in the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic, they said that the militias were taking control of the neighborhood of Ilovaisk, which was released from the Donbass and Azov battalions on August 20.

          с офиц. сайта Микрософта:
          0% ba% d0% be% d0% bc

          As predicted, the spring begins to slowly and correctly open, pressing into the meat those who squeezed it.
      2. Fuse
        Fuse 26 August 2014 14: 25
        ahhahah, sadly Semyon became, finally Poroshenko was able to collect the national battalions in one place for slaughter. Near Ilovaisk, by the way, are both Korchinsky and his son, and Parasyuk (a famous centurion of the Maidan).
      3. Oleg Sobol
        Oleg Sobol 26 August 2014 14: 42
        Forgetting History, History itself will remind, and help, ordinary people, soldiers, citizens, all together!
      4. Tamod
        Tamod 26 August 2014 15: 11
    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 26 August 2014 15: 53
      The Kiev fascist regime will come to an end soon, if New Russia does not restore order with a hard hand, then anarchist time will fall to Ukraine, which will completely destroy Ukraine.
    3. AVV
      AVV 26 August 2014 17: 00
      Quote: master 84
      The last holiday in your ukrofashistsky den

      Yes, it’s a yellow blocking rag in their hands !!! A deceived and deceived people only feel sorry !!! And no one doubts that their high priestess will soon, like Sakoashvili, an emigrant in American Paradise, America accepts all criminals !!!
    4. varov14
      varov14 26 August 2014 20: 43
      Well, Ukrainians, Giblets must be gutted, and they are each other.
  2. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 26 August 2014 14: 16
    there is no celebration, but time to cry and repent.
  3. Koloradovatnik
    Koloradovatnik 26 August 2014 14: 18
    Ukraine! Happy Independence Day! Happy Independence Day from your people, from sovereignty, from conscience, from the army, from the economy, from heating, from history! Glory to Ukraine! Celebrated the glory!
  4. artemon0502
    artemon0502 26 August 2014 14: 19
    Long live Novorossia and rot in the extreme forever and ever!
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  6. RusDV
    RusDV 26 August 2014 14: 22
    You can't be a little honest, a little pregnant and a little dead ... What, nafig, "nezalezhnosti", if without the instruction of the states - nowhere, if the military and officials of Western countries are sitting in their ministries, and a Kiev general, on his knees, gives the mattress to the saber ..... Well, there is no a little "square" ......
  7. quote
    quote 26 August 2014 14: 24
    True to pain. I liked the article. Plus.
    1. Ivan 63
      Ivan 63 26 August 2014 18: 32
      Yes, I agree, the article is unusual, the author’s reasoning deserves the closest attention and estimates: everything is basically put on the shelves and explained on the fingers of both cause and effect - the complete sentence of capitalism as a system, or the slavish existence of the overwhelming population of the Planet. And, as I understand it, in order to live, it will be necessary, once again, to begin to save humanity and again to Russia.
  8. industries_88
    industries_88 26 August 2014 14: 24
    I have already forgotten about such a state of Ukraine. She buried herself. Now the soul hurts only for New Russia. And I always thought that it was a mistake to think that Ukraine is a small Russia, in fact Ukraine is a big Moldova.
  9. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 26 August 2014 14: 34
    While the independence results in freedom from drinking, eating, washing and warming up! The EU left such habits at the end of the 19th century!
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 26 August 2014 14: 34
    What will remain as a result of the Outskirts, Obama can be slipped under the cabinet door.
  11. Pro100Igor
    Pro100Igor 26 August 2014 14: 36
    It is very sad that such a republic has died!
    1. IOwTZ
      IOwTZ 26 August 2014 15: 47
      where is Ukrainian - everything has been eliminated there!
      1. Cristall
        Cristall 26 August 2014 23: 43
        Quote: IOwTZ
        where is Ukrainian - everything has been eliminated there!

        follow the words ... with such success it is possible to say about Russians and about anyone .. this is not a character trait of Ukrainians.
  12. demon1978
    demon1978 26 August 2014 14: 46
    And the article FULLY EXACTLY describes the processes going on in Russia and the former republics of the USSR (and not only) in varying degrees of intensity !!!! And it clearly shows that the path chosen (imposed) in the 90s is DEAD !! Something NEEDS TO BE DONE !!! BUT !!! God forbid, not Maidan !!! The Chinese model is more preferable for us than the West, but far from OPTIMAL !!! Many claim that the USA should be destroyed, but I think that we for BEGINNING you need to BURN on the Red Square of Humpback, Chubais, Gaidar, EBN (after exhumation) and their ilk !!, and the United States is circulating itself !!!!
  13. Grbear
    Grbear 26 August 2014 14: 59
    Auto RU.

    You + for the well-reasoned flailing over Russia and sprinkling ash on your neighbor’s head. Everyone knows that IS in fact, they know that SHOULD DO ANYTHINGBut HOW? No one speaks out loud. Or do we have no political economic thought? Everyone has become all kinds of liberals?
    Said A, speak B ©. No, minus. As a result, the concussion of the noosphere and the blockage of runet.
    1. Demon0n
      Demon0n 26 August 2014 18: 04
      Quote: GrBear
      Auto RU.

      You + for the well-reasoned flailing over Russia and sprinkling ash on your neighbor’s head. Everyone knows that IS in fact, they know that SHOULD DO ANYTHINGBut HOW? No one speaks out loud. Or do we have no political economic thought? Everyone has become all kinds of liberals?
      Said A, speak B ©. No, minus. As a result, the concussion of the noosphere and the blockage of runet.

      If in "two words", if the result is needed relatively quickly, then create greenhouse conditions for "small" businesses and small producers, with tightening on average and "draconian" in large (You can go different ways ... like "from below" , and "from above", but better from all directions; the only obstacle is not the negotiability of ourselves at the basic social level). As for officials, then ... Since the reason is the human factor, then there and beat. The system of filters and assessments (for all personal characteristics - that is, work for psychologists and sociologists with the result in the form of methods and technology). About service in the army, as a demand - by (missed the target, but not quite a miss - or measured) ...
  14. arch_kate3
    arch_kate3 26 August 2014 15: 05
    Clever article! 5+
  15. max702
    max702 26 August 2014 15: 06
    And the article is excellent precisely for the vision of a global problem, and it has been said about the ruin here in a slip, just for an example of how everything can end, but considering the global development processes of the current world is a huge plus! All the same is happening in Russia, and children abroad and grandmothers (bills, houses, factories, ships) and dreams of living there in white pants are all the same .. And the current aggravation of relations between the "head" office and the regional branch is an attempt bargain for more favorable conditions .. And the fact that the payment for this is blood, someone's lives, destroyed cities and villages, this is because all the other "assets" have been mastered and only these values ​​remain, there is nothing else ..
  16. natasha_kuzneczova
    natasha_kuzneczova 26 August 2014 15: 27
    We will return socialism in defiance of all the Rothschilds. Oligarchs always and everywhere do not care about the people. They are organizing wars. The profit is ...
  17. sergeybulkin
    sergeybulkin 26 August 2014 15: 47
    Capitalism is not ours !!! Let there in the geyrop and the United States gnaw each other's throats over the mountains of green candy wrappers!
  18. vovan1949
    vovan1949 26 August 2014 16: 16
    "...annual transfer of asphalt and curb in the same place, the proliferation of pretentious restaurants and boutiques, the construction of shopping centers, paid parking ... "

    And I thought that it is only here in Astana that the asphalt changes annually in hectares, and the small ones do not touch for decades.
  19. MolGro
    MolGro 26 August 2014 16: 23
    Winter Is Coming)
  20. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 26 August 2014 16: 40
    Problems, some problems, but where is the way out and what needs to be done? Practically everyone knows what is happening, but no one knows the way out of the impasse into which the "liberals" led us, or does not want to know, much less follow it. And everything is very simple: leave the chatter about the "good" of the people alone and really begin to implement this idea into reality and, first of all, call the Chubais privatization illegal and return everything plundered to the people, and judge the thieves and destroyers of Russia (even posthumously) in an open national court , but first you need to "cleanse" the country from the "lawyers" every time raising a "chime" about the fact that somewhere they pressed the oligarch for illegal deeds, or rather for crimes. Well, and then according to the scenario "Towards a brighter future"!
  21. borru74
    borru74 26 August 2014 17: 15
    “And where, in fact, is the state - and who are all these people?”
    In Obama's black anus, white Merkel and Hollande! recourse repeat
  22. zol1
    zol1 26 August 2014 19: 57
    We are Russian, we are Russian, we are Russian!

    The first story.
    I came to Kandahar as a representative of a neighboring state. Nothing has changed there in twenty years. At first sight. In fact, the attitude of people towards us has changed. - How do you live? I asked one of the former well-known field commanders. “We are fighting,” he answered shortly. - Well, how is the enemy? I asked. “Ah,” he waved. - These are not men. They only know rockets. Men don’t fight like that. First one hundred rockets, then one soldier appears. You go out on the field! One on one! Like a man! Show the power! I will tell you a story. This was during the war with Shuravi (a Soviet soldier in Afghanistan). There were one hundred and fifty of us. We had to go to the valley. At an altitude along the road, shuravi sat. We knew for sure - there are five of them. At first we went directly. Sewed a machine gun. We are bypassing. There, too, we are met by a machine gun. We are on three sides to the height. So we are watered with machine gun fire from three sides. And so six days! Six days we can not break into the valley. Lost a hundred people. Finally, on the seventh day, ammunition ran out at a height. We get to the heights. There are five young soldiers. Each of them is not yet twenty. Hungry, - they ran out of food five days ago. They didn’t drink for two days. Barely hold on. And they look - wolves! Ready to bite alive! I looked at them, said: “That's it, shuravi. Read the prayer! ” I swear by all the saints - we were ready to tear them to pieces! And all five closed, held hands, and stood in a row. Men! We fed them, watered them, wound them up, the next day they gave them their arms, and I said: “Shuravi, I would like my sons to be like you. Now go. " And they left. But none of them has ever looked back! Here is the enemy! And you ask - the Americans ...
  23. azbukin77
    azbukin77 26 August 2014 20: 04
    Quote: AVV
    Quote: master 84
    The last holiday in your ukrofashistsky den

    Yes, it’s a yellow blocking rag in their hands !!! A deceived and deceived people only feel sorry !!! And no one doubts that their high priestess will soon, like Sakoashvili, an emigrant in American Paradise, America accepts all criminals !!!
    Be sure to choke with a bone or get confused in a scarf!
  24. Captain45
    Captain45 26 August 2014 21: 34
    Quote: azbukin77
    Be sure to choke with a bone or get confused in a scarf!

    Kiev. In the morning. A man is going to Maidan, includes a news channel, there the announcer says:
    - Yesterday, a fire broke out in the Verkhovna Rada due to a short circuit. The Rada building burned down completely along with the deputies and the speaker.
    A man switches to another, and there the announcer says:
    - Yesterday, during the pre-sale inspection of the GTS, Prime Minister Yatsenyuk was gassed. Unfortunately, due to the lack of gasoline, the ambulance arrived too late.
    A man shakes his hand and switches to the next channel, and there’s an announcer:
    - Yesterday, during a tasting of new products from the chocolate factory, President Petro Poroshenko choked on a chocolate bar. Unfortunately, medicine was powerless. And now our direct inclusion from the press conference of the President of Russia.
    Vladimir Putin appears on the screen and says: Dear Russians, I’ll be briefly stunned !!!
    1. hooligan
      hooligan 27 August 2014 01: 57
      Smiled)) thanks.
  25. Gomel
    Gomel 26 August 2014 21: 58
    Another piece of news: Lyashko with an American company got into a cauldron near Donetsk. And one more thing: today, at the Askold's grave in Kiev, the US Army Major Mark Paslavsky was buried. This is official. No one even hides it.
  26. Gomel
    Gomel 26 August 2014 22: 04
    and ukrosmi are hungry and worn out
    pay attention to the screenshot
    1. Gorinich
      Gorinich 26 August 2014 22: 39
      The expression on Nazarbayev’s face is interesting. I think Kazakhstan has not yet said its word ...
  27. skeptic2999
    skeptic2999 26 August 2014 23: 34
    The article is correct. Russia has managed (hopefully forever) to jump out of the path prepared for it by American political technologists after the collapse of the USSR. Independent of amers behavior, few people in the modern world can afford. Russia can. Ukraine is not.
  28. nomad74
    nomad74 26 August 2014 23: 50
    Quote: Gorinich
    The expression on Nazarbayev’s face is interesting. I think Kazakhstan has not yet said its word ...

    Nazarbayev has the face of a surprised man, he simply does not understand how the president can be a puppet of America and destroy his people!
    Article + bold! First, the questions, before they are clearly formulated and when there are few questions and they become super laconic then the next task will be to find answers to these questions! And here on the site everyone has "How to be and What to do?" Sounds for everyone individually!
  29. Cristall
    Cristall 26 August 2014 23: 56
    against the background of curses against Ukraine as a state, I am very indignant (I am not against curses against Kiev - this is really a well of rotting the country's political Olympus with its Maidanism)
    but against my country, outraged.
    As well as accusations that she is fascist and so on. I do not want to be like no censor and no censor (VO)
    but the question is - why is it Ukrainian Review? After all, you have all buried the country - well, so there, discuss Uzbekistan there ... your problems and weapons at last ...
    No, it is Ukraine that needs to be kicked .. every day it should be distinguished from the other 14 republics. It is the worst among the Russians, the poorest, the most fascist, the nastiest - and the most popular!
    Not a single former. there is no such close attention to the republic! (where was it when it was possible to solve everything before the coup?) There are not so many claims to any republic of the former USSR (and for some reason they remember that Ukraine is always with claims - even in Ukraine there is no such thing that all sites turn into “Russian or Russian review!” There is of course no Censor, but his VO is successfully catching up.
    Truly, I can say that Ukraine is bad because the enemies have settled both in the center (Kiev, a bunch of prostitutes of the EU and the USA) and along its borders.
    Moreover, 1% of Ukrainians are really guilty of what is happening (Maidan) and more than 40% are guilty of sympathy for them!
    I’m not happy with a lot of things in my country (Russian language, Maidan’s politics, nationalists, ZRADA president, etc.) but she’s MY COUNTRY! And since the big MOTHERLAND was successfully ruined when I was too young, I only had UKRAINE left! It doesn’t matter if it is called the Ukrainian SSR or Ukraine (the same even in the USSR) it is MY COUNTRY.
    Be people, respect each other ....
    1. xan
      xan 27 August 2014 14: 22
      Quote: Cristall
      It is the worst among the Russians, the poorest, the most fascist, the nastiest - and the most popular!

      In Ukraine, the war is on, but in other places the Russians are not fighting.
      The homeland is understandable, but do you personally see that Ukraine is a complete stabilizer with power and the brains of the people?
      Sometimes things need to be called by their proper names. Wu country is completely bankrupt in every sense, in the economic, military, political, and ideological.
  30. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 27 August 2014 02: 19
    On August 24, the owners of the remnants of Ukraine frantically celebrate Independence Day - they paint fences and bridges in yellow and blue, look for traitors everywhere, fight in patriotic hysteria and try to imagine a civil war in Russia

    Celebrated. Then they counted, wept. They wiped themselves out, blamed Russia and again "happily" healed.