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Production of armored vehicles is closed at the Kharkov tractor.

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The Kharkov Tractor Plant (KhTZ) production association has failed to renew the license giving the right to manufacture dual-use equipment, Ukrainian reports news broker Status quo with reference to the general director of the company Vladislav Gubin.

Production of armored vehicles is closed at the Kharkov tractor.


“After the production of dual-use equipment at our plant was banned, we kept this production for six months, paying employees a salary. We hoped that we could prove the need to continue production. Now the site is disbanded, about 200 workers are laid off. KTZ irrevocably lost its competence in the production of military equipment and dual-use equipment, including the Gvozdika howitzer. It is impossible to restore production. Topic locked »- said Gubin.

According to him, the enterprise also needed a license “for the production of snow and swamp vehicles on the basis of a light-armored multipurpose tractor, which was recognized as a dual-purpose vehicle.”

“Every month the company received about 30 mln. UAH from sales of snow and swamp-going vehicles. In addition, India’s order for a multi-purpose tractor lightly armored for $ 900 million was lost. MTLB is a unique vehicle, it has no analogues in the world ”- said the general director.

The plant failed to prove to the authorities that “geologists and oilmen are needed for civilian purposes by snow and swamp-going vehicles, and that there is no need to prohibit their production,” the manager stated.

“These non-military vehicles are in demand due to their unique terrain and buoyancy, they can deliver cargo to hard-to-reach areas. And it is possible to recognize a dual-purpose technique as any car. For example, they put a bazooka on our tractor in Africa, so the tractor can also be recognized as military equipment. But no arguments were accepted. ”- Gubin noted with regret.
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  1. Mooh
    Mooh 25 August 2014 18: 38
    +69
    Insanity is incurable. Nothing, a change of power is just around the corner. Let's hope that the Kharkov People's Republic will be more circumspect than the former Ukraine.
    1. MSA
      MSA 25 August 2014 18: 44
      +72
      It's time to go back to Russia, then everything will work out
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 25 August 2014 18: 51
        +64
        I think the industry and scientific potential of Ukraine is simply being stupidly destroyed .. "farm thinking" to the delight of the United States is bearing fruit in 23 years (brainwashing "specialists scatter enterprises stop .." Walk-field "want to make from Ukraine .. Well, it's not over yet. !
        1. Nick
          Nick 25 August 2014 18: 58
          +27
          Quote: MIKHAN
          I think industry is simply stupidly destroyed

          Exactly! They were afraid that the established military production would go to the advancing army of New Russia.
          1. serega.fedotov
            serega.fedotov 25 August 2014 19: 10
            +15
            Quote: Nick
            Exactly! They were afraid that the established military production would go to the advancing army of New Russia.

            At the "anti-Maidan" even a month ago, it was infa that the "jumping" were taking out equipment to the western regions from the KhTZ! It seems that is why they prohibit that the machines should be urgently removed, and then the militia will come!
            1. Vasek
              Vasek 25 August 2014 19: 28
              +10
              Quote: serega.fedotov
              otherwise the militia will come!

              and put things in order! bully
              1. Koloradovatnik
                Koloradovatnik 25 August 2014 19: 55
                +22
                Cool. They have a war going on there, the army is retreating, and they also stop releasing armored vehicles! Glory to ukromarazmu! Glory to morons!
            2. tundra
              tundra 25 August 2014 22: 31
              +5
              I doubt that the latest machines were there. And the machines also need brains and where to get them, judging by the faces on the Maidan, this is a very large deficit. They’ll hand over scrap, they will buy lard, the main thing is that lard should not be dropped.
            3. wanderer987
              wanderer987 25 August 2014 23: 03
              +4
              Machine tools are not the most important thing, the most important are the specialists who know all the details of technology. Stalin once said, "STAFF IS DECIDING EVERYTHING!"
          2. Shishiga
            Shishiga 25 August 2014 19: 22
            +11
            Guys and why resent ???
            As the saying goes, there would be no happiness, but unhappiness would help; there is no license, not only for production, but also for the restoration of military equipment.
            That is, now the fenced technique of dill is nowhere to be repaired nearby, with which we congratulate them. love laughing
            And the factory will go into the right hands, no one will remember the license.
            So Sala Heroam, Death to the Curd. good
            1. zeleznijdorojnik
              zeleznijdorojnik 25 August 2014 19: 35
              +10
              Comrades, do not confuse the giant of the Soviet industry KhZTM named after Malyshev, where they make tanks with a relatively small KhTZ !!!!
            2. REMBO
              REMBO 25 August 2014 19: 36
              +4
              I think the industry and scientific potential of Ukraine is simply being stupidly destroyed .. "farm thinking" to the delight of the United States is bearing fruit in 23 years (brainwashing "specialists scatter enterprises stop .." Walk-field "want to make from Ukraine .. Well, it's not over yet. !

              How did it happen! Our good is stolen! Novorosskoe! We have to restore everything. Pancake.
        2. sssla
          sssla 25 August 2014 19: 22
          +5
          Quote: MIKHAN
          . "farm thinking" to the delight of the USA

          And to the joy and by order of amers!
        3. The comment was deleted.
          1. PeaceByForce
            PeaceByForce 25 August 2014 21: 49
            0
            I confirm that they are actively using them in Surgut.
        4. sds555
          sds555 25 August 2014 21: 53
          +10
          Dill is in shock Tymchuk and all lied to them wassat
        5. insafufa
          insafufa 26 August 2014 06: 43
          0
          If it goes on like this Banderlog will run with a baton and riding a bull laughing
      2. The comment was deleted.
      3. enot73
        enot73 25 August 2014 19: 23
        +10
        Quote: MSA
        It's time to go back to Russia, then everything will work out
        According to him, the enterprise also needed a license “for the production of snow and swamp vehicles on the basis of a light-armored multipurpose tractor, which was recognized as a dual-purpose vehicle.”
        The plant failed to prove to the authorities that “geologists and oilmen are needed for civilian purposes by snow and swamp-going vehicles, and that there is no need to prohibit their production,” the manager stated.
        Just such machines are in demand only in Russia, but this did not suit dill, and they seem to be generally ready to cover all industries working for Russia and at the same time everything connected with it.
        1. Evilcat
          Evilcat 25 August 2014 19: 35
          +3
          Most likely, you are right.
        2. Vasek
          Vasek 25 August 2014 23: 36
          +7
          Quote: enot73
          We are ready to cover all industries working for Russia and at the same time everything related to this.

          These are the "Ukrainian sanctions" in action: to spite the conductor - I will buy a ticket and go on foot.
      4. armageddon
        armageddon 25 August 2014 19: 48
        +19
        Hmm ... Russia with enormous pleasure will receive experts from the defense industry !!! Welcome home !!!
      5. 1812 1945
        1812 1945 25 August 2014 20: 11
        +5
        Quote: MSA
        It's time to go back to Russia, then everything will work out

        Holy words! No more, no less.
      6. Signal
        Signal 25 August 2014 21: 53
        0
        Quote: MSA
        It's time to go back to Russia, then everything will work out

        Well, as they say +100500
      7. shershen
        shershen 25 August 2014 23: 20
        +1
        The main thing is to make copies from the technical documentation. It will come in handy yet.
      8. skeket
        skeket 26 August 2014 01: 22
        +2
        Quote: MSA
        It's time to go back to Russia, then everything will work out

        Putin said in the spring that all engineers and scientists should come to work in the Russian Federation, we beg you, we will provide decent salaries and housing
    2. Andrey Skokovsky
      Andrey Skokovsky 25 August 2014 18: 47
      +21
      Quote: MooH
      Insanity is incurable. Nothing, a change of power is just around the corner. Let's hope that the Kharkov People's Republic will be more circumspect than the former Ukraine.

      nothing to do with insanity
      just a branch of the State Department in Kiev, it is also called the "government of ukraine" conducts a systematic de-industrialization of the controlled territory
      Well, the military-industrial complex, in principle, is destroyed by bulldozers
      1. nils
        nils 25 August 2014 18: 56
        +14
        "The plant failed to prove to the authorities ..."
        Authorities failed to prove the IMF ....

        "... Give us more money - we owe everyone anyway!"

        You listened to the short course of economic policy of Ukraine.
    3. Giant thought
      Giant thought 25 August 2014 18: 52
      0
      Well, stupid! As for Zadornov! You can’t call them smart.
    4. Angro Magno
      Angro Magno 25 August 2014 18: 58
      +5
      I met a month ago a message that all equipment from Kharkov was exported, and the plant was evacuated to the west.
    5. gav6757
      gav6757 25 August 2014 19: 25
      0
      Let the guys release tractors, they don't need to release military equipment "YET", there is no need!
      1. kodxnumx
        kodxnumx 25 August 2014 19: 38
        0
        Yes, this bonder went to the railway station, where they can create such a military-industrial complex, if the people of Ukraine do not understand this, they will be with the bonder in that place from where he is sending greetings to you now, that is, from hell!
      2. Snake831
        Snake831 25 August 2014 19: 41
        +7
        Do not flatter yourself about Kharkovites, guys. Most people are pro-Ukropian. I know what I'm saying, because I live in Belgorod.
    6. Mareman Vasilich
      Mareman Vasilich 25 August 2014 19: 50
      +3
      This is not insanity, these are the agreed requirements of the West.
    7. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 25 August 2014 19: 59
      +6
      Quote: MooH
      Kharkiv People's Republic will be more circumspect

      And don't get your hopes up! Its inhabitants, for the most part, are from the category "myahataskrayu" and there is a specific example of this from my brother-in-law and his children.
      When the last Maidan was just beginning, he told him, tear your claws to Russia, to me. When the roasted rooster pecked all of them, it was too late. Do not listen to the elders!
    8. vatnik.detekted
      vatnik.detekted 26 August 2014 05: 29
      0
      for complete caution, they must go on a campaign in Moscow and destroy the fascists of the Kremlin
  2. mad
    mad 25 August 2014 18: 38
    +4
    The fascists sense that the factory will soon leave for New Russia! Nothing, we will provide orders for the T-90, what for we collect dill junk soldier
    1. peter-tank
      peter-tank 25 August 2014 18: 54
      +17
      MT-LB, by the way, is a very good junk. Especially on Sakhalin, it is simply irreplaceable for troops.
      1. Shishiga
        Shishiga 25 August 2014 19: 26
        +3
        And also for areas of the Far North and the Arctic. repeat
        fellow Hi Sakhalin.
      2. Skvor
        Skvor 26 August 2014 02: 09
        +2
        We cut across the Caucasus on metals with pleasure. You fly along the intersection and inside the leash sways slightly.
        1. Rusi dolaze
          Rusi dolaze 26 August 2014 11: 00
          0
          Quote: Skvor
          We cut across the Caucasus on metals with pleasure.

          And we MTLBU affectionately called matalygami :)) EW systems put on them :))
    2. Nick
      Nick 25 August 2014 18: 59
      +6
      Quote: mad
      Nothing, we will provide orders for the T-90, what for we collect dill junk

      Why junk? MTLB machine in demand.
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 25 August 2014 19: 06
      +11
      25.08.14/18/02 XNUMX:XNUMX PM Message from reporters

      Today, as a result of the successful offensive of the militia, a wave of panic swept Mariupol. People hurriedly leave the port city, into which not only a lot of Donetsk residents, but also employees of the Donetsk Regional State Administration and Governor Sergey Taruta temporarily moved.

      Report of the Committee for Social Communications of the DPR:

      According to unverified information: in Mariupol, the National Guard is driving civilians into groups in order to use them as a human shield.

      Units of the Ukrainian National Guard in a hurry leave the city of Mariupol in the south of Donetsk region, where on August 25, security forces were preparing to defend against militia forces. Fighters on trucks leave in the direction of the city of Mangush Zaporizhia region. In the direction of Zaporozhye from Mariupol there are cars hung with Ukrainian symbols; on the outskirts of the city there is already a big traffic jam from those who are running. While the locals mostly wait with approval for the arrival of the militia, elements of a loyal junta are panicked and fleeing the city.
      Eyewitnesses also report that now, in the direction of Amvrosievka-Novoazovsk, punitive units are moving towards Mariupol. Soldiers are removed from checkpoints, separate units of territorial battalions leave previously occupied lines, trying not to enter the battle with the militia.
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 25 August 2014 19: 35
        +13
        Quote: Sith Lord
        Mariupol covered a wave of panic

        this is that, here Lyasha in Severodonetsk can take for ochko ... here's the news ...

        with dill ... resource ...
        Elena Edokimova
        Alexander, here is the original text: Not verified !!! A guy from Lysychansk Self-Defense writes:
        "I just spoke on the phone with Lyashko, this scum in Severodonetsk cannot leave the city!
        They are beginning to fear, the guys are now leading an offensive on Severodonetsk, dill there in a cauldron, the city is surrounded!
        Here is the number Lyashko +380674663588
        Call him who wants to talk with him for the last time!
        Soon he won't be able to talk at all! "
        an hour ago to Alexander
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 25 August 2014 19: 49
          +11
          Quote: cosmos111
          Lyasha in Severodonetsk can take for a point

          Put him on a stake, let him die just as he sinned.
        2. mad
          mad 25 August 2014 20: 04
          +15
          Quote: cosmos111
          LASHKO + 380674663588

          I called, busy (((Apparently a lot of people decided to say a couple of affectionate))
  3. Basarev
    Basarev 25 August 2014 18: 40
    +6
    But this is already useful. Even less armor will come to the crop.
    1. Nick
      Nick 25 August 2014 19: 02
      +1
      Quote: Basarev
      Even less armor will come to the crop.

      Through dill, technology passes to the troops of New Russia.
  4. Archikah
    Archikah 25 August 2014 18: 40
    +12
    This is the intentional destruction of factories in New Russia. Ukrainians understand that soon Kharkov will leave them - that’s why they bankrupt and stop production of everything and everything. fool
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 26 August 2014 09: 54
      0
      Destruction of ALL industry of the South-East is the main task of the ghouls-amers and their poultry dill. And the whole infrastructure too. sad
  5. DMB-88
    DMB-88 25 August 2014 18: 40
    +18
    Great news is now not coming to the front of the equipment from Kharkov !!! Do not worry when the Kharkov People's Republic enters into an alliance with New Russia, the production of armored vehicles will be restored immediately, since the armor will be needed to protect the Independence of the Union !!!
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 26 August 2014 09: 55
      0
      Such optimism requires considerable resources.
  6. queen
    queen 25 August 2014 18: 42
    +4
    But how, they will soon come and force NATO, their competitors are useless.
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 25 August 2014 18: 42
    +5
    Didn't you have enough money for a bribe? Or these machines are needed by geologists of Russia, and they decided to "spite mom's ears to freeze". And what does the Indian contract have to do with it?
    Yes, it seems that no treatment will help them, only brain surgery.
    1. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 25 August 2014 20: 30
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      brain surgery.

      It seems to be called a "lobotomy", although in medical terms I am rather weak.
  8. Rimsler2014
    Rimsler2014 25 August 2014 18: 42
    +1
    this is the result of the economic crisis
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 25 August 2014 19: 02
      +2
      Quote: Rimsler2014
      this is the result of the economic crisis

      The new owners Ruins, the plant is not needed. Soon with Antonov, the same garbage will happen. Although, something like a repair plant will remain ...
    2. demon1978
      demon1978 25 August 2014 19: 39
      +2
      Rimsler2014 RU Today, 18:42 New
      this is the result of the economic crisis

      This is the result of acute brain failure !!!
  9. Akvadra
    Akvadra 25 August 2014 18: 42
    -7
    And what kind of freak in the picture? Enlighten ... the same snow and swamp vehicle?
    1. SibRUS
      SibRUS 25 August 2014 19: 08
      +6
      In contrast, a completely normal exhibit fellow
      And what kind of freak in the picture?

      MTLBu
      1. Gecko
        Gecko 25 August 2014 19: 56
        +10
        Shooting the movie Mad Max in Ukraine ...
        1. Mwg
          Mwg 25 August 2014 20: 58
          +11
          This version is called "Mad Taras"))))
      2. Ramzaj99
        Ramzaj99 25 August 2014 22: 16
        +2
        Quote: SibRUS
        And what kind of freak in the picture?


        And the hole there in front so that the militia could come up and piss on the driver))
  10. HAM
    HAM 25 August 2014 18: 42
    0
    The idiots from “Ulan Bator” do not care, as long as it is across common sense, they do not have to break, they don’t have to build, they have everything already built in California.
  11. Reserve officer
    Reserve officer 25 August 2014 18: 43
    +9
    It is useless to prove anything to the current Ukrainian authorities. They have little interest in the problems of production workers. But they do not know how to take a step forward, and there is no need. They are well aware that for a long time they will not be on Ukrainian soil, that they would be able to take their feet in time.
    This government executes only the commands of the US ambassador, but this command was not received by KhTZ.
  12. Klim2011
    Klim2011 25 August 2014 18: 43
    +5
    Here are the fools, this is the factory, the pride of mechanical engineering!
    Well, nothing, there will be a holiday in our street in Kharkov.
  13. pvv113
    pvv113 25 August 2014 18: 44
    +3
    KhTZ has irrevocably lost its competence in the production of military and dual-use equipment, including the Gvozdika howitzer. It is impossible to restore production.
    Good news! Replenishment for dill will not come !!!
  14. Loner_53
    Loner_53 25 August 2014 18: 45
    +5
    GOD will give everything to work out when they enter the composition of New Russia. Everything will turn around, everything will work! wink
  15. Prutkov
    Prutkov 25 August 2014 18: 45
    +3
    I could be wrong. But, in my opinion, the use of artillery with a caliber larger than 152 mm of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is prohibited by international laws. Because These products can fire tactical nuclear weapons. And Ukraine has signed an international treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons. The same treaty limits the types of weapons that can be used to use nuclear weapons.
    1. avt
      avt 25 August 2014 18: 56
      +6
      Quote: Rods
      . But, in my opinion, the use of artillery with a caliber larger than 152 mm of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is prohibited by international laws. Because These products can fire tactical nuclear weapons. And Ukraine has signed an international treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons. The same treaty limits the types of weapons that can be used to use nuclear weapons.

      request Well, you give a pancake! And here nuclear weapons and gun caliber? Look, and "Peonies" were put into action. It's just that the fashion has gone - to switch to one caliber 152mm. From here, by the way, they wanted to remove 122mm - optimization of the understanding, especially considering that there is no money to maintain equipment in Ukraine.
      1. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 25 August 2014 21: 07
        +4
        Quote: avt
        It’s just such a fashion went - go to one caliber 152mm. From here, by the way, they also wanted to remove 122mm - optimization ponimash,

        I don’t understand what you are talking about at all ... Switch to one caliber? In what sense? The whole world exists on one caliber, just in Russia, as in the USSR, the caliber is measured by the internal slices, in other words, the projectile is measured along the wall of the projectile. And in the west, the caliber is measured by the outer slices, that is, the caliber includes the copper belt of the projectile and therefore the western caliber 155 is equal to our 152 mm. And the rifled caliber of 122 mm guns was turned into a smooth-bore and the projectile was added 3 mm of the belt and 122 became 125 mm of modern tank guns, and the 85 mm anti-tank guns became smooth-bore and received the name "Rapier". It is only necessary to note that before the war, when Petrov proposed to create field howitzer caliber 122 mm, many told him that it was a caliber for heavy siege weapons and even the Germans stopped at the caliber 105 mm, for field howitzers. But Petrov creates a field 122 mm howitzer M-30.
      2. viktor_ui
        viktor_ui 26 August 2014 05: 48
        +1
        No, the rods are absolutely not mistaken when they indicate the possibility of firing tactical IDs with a caliber of 152 ... and peonies have an ent in the most specialized respected avt drinks
        1. avt
          avt 26 August 2014 10: 28
          0
          Quote: viktor_ui
          when it indicates the possibility of firing tactical IDs with a caliber of 152 ... and peonies have ente the most specialized respected avt

          If not forgotten - the US had 203mm cannons for nuclear weapons, and the Pion type was a otvetka, but then they switched to 155 with a nuclear charge and 203 to the reserve. Honestly, I did not see any documents limiting Ukraine in terms of nuclear weapons carriers, and even more I don’t know, but if we take Prutkov’s version, then the question is - why do they have the "Points" and the Su-24? Even in a purely amateurish way, it is a discrepancy.
    2. demon1978
      demon1978 25 August 2014 19: 42
      +7
      Prutkov UA Today, 18:45 New
      I could be wrong. But, in my opinion, the use of artillery with a caliber larger than 152 mm of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is prohibited by international laws. Because These products can fire tactical nuclear weapons. And Ukraine has signed an international treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons. The same treaty limits the types of weapons that can be used to use nuclear weapons.

      And she did not sign the agreement on the ban of phosphorus munitions and other needle-cluster rubbish ??? !!!
      1. KBR109
        KBR109 25 August 2014 23: 49
        +1
        It’s unlikely that I’m mistaken: the nuclear warheads are designed for shells precisely starting from the caliber 152 (USA-155) mm.
    3. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 26 August 2014 09: 58
      0
      A "Point" is supposedly a sparrow from a slingshot.
      1. demon1978
        demon1978 26 August 2014 13: 25
        0
        Black Colonel (2) IS Today, 09:58 ↑
        A "Point" is supposedly a sparrow from a slingshot.

        Although it is NECESSARY for rabbits with banderlog !!!
  16. Mishanya 84
    Mishanya 84 25 August 2014 18: 45
    +2
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Didn't you have enough money for a bribe? Or these machines are needed by geologists of Russia, and they decided to "spite mom's ears to freeze". And what does the Indian contract have to do with it?
    Yes, it seems that no treatment will help them, only brain surgery.


    You can’t operate on what’s not. And the lack of a junta brain demonstrates regularly laughing
  17. Major Yurik
    Major Yurik 25 August 2014 18: 47
    +8
    Do not shoot at the barn of Kernes, Avakov, he directs as he can. This old saboteur is still useful. bully
  18. Bronik
    Bronik 25 August 2014 18: 48
    +7
    I remember about the Kharkov Tractor Plant (KhTZ) since childhood, there was no stronger and more reliable bicycle than the "Ukraine". And I was always surprised why my father called the plant a tank.
    1. not main
      not main 25 August 2014 23: 23
      0
      Quote: bronik
      I remember about the Kharkov Tractor Plant (KhTZ) since childhood, there was no stronger and more reliable bicycle than the "Ukraine". And I was always surprised why my father called the plant a tank.

      And I still have my memories, the tractor drivers deciphered KhTZ: you’ll get a comrade!
  19. SHOCK.
    SHOCK. 25 August 2014 18: 52
    +4
    The good news is that riveting armored vehicles for puppies is enough. Time will come and everything will be restored.
  20. tank64rus
    tank64rus 25 August 2014 18: 52
    +7
    NATO HTZ is not needed in any way. And those who restored the armored vehicles of Ukraine could understand that he is making weapons for fratricidal punitive war. Moreover, children were shot from these tanks, the elderly and women, while the crews were having fun, the SS was resting. But now you have to pay for everything, the plant is no longer needed. If Kharkov joins New Russia, KhTZ will work as it did in the USSR. If to Geyrop, the plant will simply die.
    1. andj61
      andj61 25 August 2014 21: 01
      +6
      Actually, KhTZ is the Kharkov Tractor Plant, and the tanks are made by the V. A. Malyshev Kharkiv Transport Engineering Plant (KhZTM).
      1. Hyppopotut
        Hyppopotut 26 August 2014 07: 27
        0
        And at KhTZ - armored personnel carriers.
  21. Funnels
    Funnels 25 August 2014 18: 52
    +11
    Yes, "biker" is a good thing. Maybe the plant did not want to prove anything to the "authorities"? Sabotage?
  22. Iline
    Iline 25 August 2014 18: 53
    +5
    The saddest thing in this article is that fellow gene. the director is not worried about the war in his country and that the equipment produced by his factory can help kill people. He only cares about money and pity for layoffs. Tractors now do not need Ukraine.
    1. Vladimir73
      Vladimir73 25 August 2014 21: 24
      +1
      Quote: Iline
      “After the production of dual-use equipment at our plant was banned, we maintained this production for another six months, paying employees wages. They hoped that it would be possible to prove the need to continue production. Now the site has been disbanded, about 200 workers have been dismissed. KhTZ has irrevocably lost its competence in the production of military and dual-use equipment, including the Gvozdika howitzer. It is impossible to restore production. The topic is closed, ”Gubin said.


      If it is impossible to restore production, it means that the product documentation has been destroyed ?! Or already sold to someone ?! request
      1. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 26 August 2014 10: 05
        +1
        If anything, you can "copy" all sizes and nodes from finished products. Surely there are repair plants in Russia where MTLBs were repaired, which means that there is no documentation.
  23. Swetly
    Swetly 25 August 2014 18: 54
    +5
    Break not build. Amerikosy rule!
  24. Normal
    Normal 25 August 2014 18: 54
    +6
    KhTZ irrevocably lost its competence in production military equipment and dual-use equipment, including the Gvozdika howitzers. It is impossible to restore production.


    Harosh! No military equipment uk-ram! Let them produce tractors and special equipment. And then "Carnation! Give them!
    That will become part of New Russia, then production can be restored.
  25. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 25 August 2014 18: 55
    +7
    Something else will happen ... The West will forbid doing everything, because it does everything itself, and the Ukrainians will consume their products. Soon apples will be sent to Ukraine from the voi, and they will be banned from growing in Ukraine, the Balts will demand to lime the livestock of cows, pigs, and sheep, since they intend to supply all these products to the Ukrainians. Now the Ukrainians will now become masters of all the polls, they will only consume, they will not need to work themselves, they even "take envy" ...
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 25 August 2014 19: 20
      +6
      Quote: Anchonsha
      That will still be ... The West will forbid everything to be done ...

      Ukrainians will specialize in hay, horseradish and dill ... tongue
    2. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 26 August 2014 10: 09
      0
      The West will forbid everything to be done, since everything itself does
      Well, the Bulgarians were ordered to close the plant, as dangerous. And now they themselves are buying electricity from Europe. fool Nothing personal just business.
    3. Rusi dolaze
      Rusi dolaze 26 August 2014 11: 19
      0
      Quote: Anchonsha
      The West will forbid to do everything, since it does everything,

      Of course it will forbid Previously, there was even infa by box, that in case of entry / association with the EU, they would be forbidden to even grow vegetables and fruits on their plots in the villages ... and they will also be reduced in area ... Well, keep livestock too. ..
  26. jPilot
    jPilot 25 August 2014 18: 58
    +7
    It looks like the Americans decided to leave Ukraine without any industry at all, this is not only not funny, but also causes complete bewilderment how in 23 years it is possible to bring such a mass of people to complete cretinism so as not to see "xy from xy" and not draw conclusions belay
    In addition, the US Department of State must be destroyed
  27. tomcat117
    tomcat117 25 August 2014 18: 58
    +1
    All. The trendy one has descended!
  28. pensioner
    pensioner 25 August 2014 19: 03
    +7
    Beautiful tractor good . In Gazprom, it takes place under the name NK. Excellent in mud and walks well. There is a slight drawback - the passage from the cargo compartment to the driver’s cab is narrowyesbut it’s easy to fix, you only need to lose weight recourse ... I was not even interested: where is he released, and it’s over there what ...Well - fool - enchanting dolbyotyatly.
  29. tag17
    tag17 25 August 2014 19: 04
    +2
    It was reported that equipment from the factory near Lviv was taken away ..
    1. spech
      spech 25 August 2014 19: 36
      +5
      It was reported that equipment from the factory near Lviv was taken away ..

      hike fake
      1 sites
      2 energy
      3 staff
      or just sell metal machines fool
  30. sch1987
    sch1987 25 August 2014 19: 07
    +8
    It is correct to write in factories: KRAZ, ZAZ, KhtZ, Motor Sich, Antonov, the production of equipment has been discontinued.
  31. BOB044
    BOB044 25 August 2014 19: 07
    +2
    They need leaders from Kiev to the Bekhterev Institute. What would they study their brain, if it is of course. They in Kiev are all sick on the head and even very much.
  32. staric
    staric 25 August 2014 19: 08
    +9
    to all dill
  33. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 25 August 2014 19: 08
    +16
    Tse peremoga !!!. How can we compare the totalitarian, developed by the sworn m_oskalskimi designers MT-LB with these creations of a gloomy Ukrainian genius:








    pay attention to the barrel zpu
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 25 August 2014 19: 46
      +3
      Quote: Novel 1977
      pay attention to the barrel zpu


      they are such shushpatsrov, riveted a lot, with various weapons and partial armor ...


      1. vnord
        vnord 26 August 2014 09: 57
        0
        in the photo a Muscovite 2141 pickup truck, in 1993 or 1994, a Muscovite tried to cram the Russian Defense Ministry with all-wheel drive
    2. demon1978
      demon1978 25 August 2014 19: 53
      +6
      Novel 1977 RU Today, 19:08
      Tse peremoga !!!. How can we compare the totalitarian, developed by the sworn m_oskalskimi designers MT-LB with these creations of gloomy Ukrainian

      Yeah !!! DIDNISHED out by SUMRAK !!!! And with ZPU, everything is normal, just IT is plasma-neutrino-proton: it shoots through the planets !!! wassat
    3. cosmos111
      cosmos111 25 August 2014 19: 55
      +7
      destroyed equipment of 28 punitive brigades ....

      BMP-2 dill, with beds on the sides, did not help

    4. pensioner
      pensioner 25 August 2014 20: 06
      +4
      Quote: Novel 1977
      pay attention to the barrel zpu

      The pipe is water and gas, DN 65? what
      1. Roman 1977
        Roman 1977 25 August 2014 21: 11
        +5
        Not Yurych, not guessing - an ordinary mop stick, however, some argue that the stand from the tent is USB-56. Kolomet "Shtuchka" is the newest invention of the galloping Ukrainian genius. This "creation" belongs to the "Aydar" battalion. It's a terribly cool thing, it is incomprehensible only the stake is firing or is it fixed on a tripod? - after all, these tactical properties radically change: it's one thing to drive up to a vampire's k_atzapo by thirty to fifty meters and make an aimed shot in the heart, and quite another thing is to maneuver in reverse to file a mosquito ghoul on the easel ram.
        Generally a magnificent sight!
        Especially a bottle that supports the barrel.
        Now you need a beautiful inscription across the board:
        "Honduras-on-Dnepr"
        and coat of arms, of course!
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 25 August 2014 21: 39
          +1
          Quote: Novel 1977
          mop stick

          Uki count on the effect of surprise am . While the enemy will figure it out: WHAT was it? belay , you can catch time ... to run away, in general repeat .
    5. wanderer987
      wanderer987 25 August 2014 23: 09
      +1
      The technique is that you only need to carry manure and collect dung and a machine gun so that dung are not stolen!
    6. Reinhard
      Reinhard 25 August 2014 23: 47
      0
      To think! What would you do? I won’t drink so much!
    7. Funnels
      Funnels 26 August 2014 04: 36
      +4
      Yes, just the masterpieces of design thought.
    8. Komsomolec80
      Komsomolec80 26 August 2014 05: 00
      +1
      Mother, dear, "inhabited island". They spied on Fedya Bondarchuk.
  34. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 25 August 2014 19: 08
    +2
    feel dill power their demise here and destroy their production that is, I myself don’t eat an apple and I won’t give others a bite
  35. shitovmg
    shitovmg 25 August 2014 19: 10
    +6
    It's a pity anyway. The entire Soviet Union invested in this production. My grandfather in the 43rd year was seriously wounded in the head during the liberation of Kharkov! So many people have laid, is it really just that we’ll give everything back now? ..
  36. saag
    saag 25 August 2014 19: 12
    +2
    they there before dissolution of the Rada there want to ratify the association with the European Union, then the whole industry will transdec
  37. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 25 August 2014 19: 14
    +3
    we would have to revive our Volgograd tractor. from Chelyabinsk near-uh would have built
    1. Rusi dolaze
      Rusi dolaze 26 August 2014 11: 32
      0
      Quote: seregatara1969
      we would revive our Volgograd tractor. not far from Chelyabinsk

      I'm sorry, Volgograd is not far from Chelyabinsk ???
      Well, on the scale of the Milky Way, yes :)))
  38. African
    African 25 August 2014 19: 15
    +3
    Does anyone after this have questions regarding the current government in Ukraine? Director, keep the workers, drawings and machines. This is your future after Truth triumphs.
  39. typhoon7
    typhoon7 25 August 2014 19: 18
    +4
    By the way, the media of Ukraine announced that the troops of the junta will use Oplot tanks against Donbass. How menacing it sounds, just like Germany at the end of the war. Let them fit, the collection of Novorossiya just lacks these cars.
    1. Komsomolec80
      Komsomolec80 26 August 2014 05: 05
      0
      In Kubinka, in my opinion, there is no such exhibit yet.
  40. uteko
    uteko 25 August 2014 19: 24
    0
    Well so, you never know what)))
  41. spech
    spech 25 August 2014 19: 26
    0
    buy from mattress and have Happiness laughing
  42. novobranets
    novobranets 25 August 2014 19: 28
    +2
    The junta lost all chances of winning. Now there will be a systematic destruction of industry in the territories that may escape Kiev's control. "Not for me, so no one" is a familiar motto. Now we need to look after enterprises that, in the event of a deliberate accident, can cause environmental or other harm.
  43. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 25 August 2014 19: 29
    +23
    Serbs are not vindictive like we are Russians .. Sooner or later we will break through to each other and reunite (to all evil ..) God forbid to see this in life ..
    1. andj61
      andj61 25 August 2014 21: 05
      +2
      I heard another saying from the Serbs:
      Us and Russ - 200 million;
      Us without Russ - 200 camions (trucks).
      1. Rusi dolaze
        Rusi dolaze 26 August 2014 11: 35
        0
        Quote: andj61
        Us without Russ - 200 camions (trucks).

        I heard about five camions :))
  44. PiP
    PiP 25 August 2014 19: 33
    +7
    Only last week I remembered the "motorcycle league", like, "why can't you see where they are all?", And then the plot twist ... Matl is a cool car and has no equal (IMHO). There was a video on the net (I posted it and I'll post it again) MT-LB their modding ... Simply beautiful and practical (cheap and cheerful).
    1. patriot75
      patriot75 25 August 2014 22: 15
      +1
      Why doesn't it shoot? When they show military equipment, they show how it shoots! And then he drives and drives a sting! Is she only capable of this and that’s all?
      1. PiP
        PiP 26 August 2014 00: 00
        0
        Quote: patriot75
        Why doesn't it shoot?

        So no patron laughing
        On the site there is an article on MT-LB and various "bells and whistles" to them: http://topwar.ru/27009-transportnye-modifikacii-mashiny-mt-lb.html
    2. UFO
      UFO 26 August 2014 07: 00
      +1
      Quote: PiP
      Mat-cool car and it has no equal

      It is quite good For artillery batteries as a tractor + support medium, it’s quite good
  45. NDR-791
    NDR-791 25 August 2014 19: 33
    +7
    The general director is not the owner, but Kolomoisky, or whoever drives KhTZ, takes out the equipment by itself. It's worth hriven !!! And MTLB with a kind of bulletproof armor from the times of "Komsomolets" can be called dual-use as many times as you like, while it will never be a front-line technique. As a resident of Siberia, I regret more about the collapse of LUAZ production. But this happened back in 1992. True, if my memory is deceiving, then correct me, MTLB was not so sickly produced in Chelyabinsk and Vyatka.
  46. propolsky
    propolsky 25 August 2014 19: 50
    +3
    The right hand does not know what the left is doing! But this is the only case when you want to be happy than to lament.
  47. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 25 August 2014 19: 53
    +2
    equipment can be taken out, but who will work on it? Pravoseki or what ?! This is not a machine gun in your own army to shoot in the back!
  48. Echelon
    Echelon 25 August 2014 19: 56
    0
    there are no geologists and oil workers in Ukraine
  49. NDR-791
    NDR-791 25 August 2014 20: 04
    0
    Dear bronik? I support you completely about bicycles Kharkov (Tractor?) Plant.
  50. Everest2014
    Everest2014 25 August 2014 20: 06
    +6
    This is not insanity, they will close the nuclear power plants in the distant future. The ears of the EU are so modestly sticking out.