EU, Russia, Ukraine: the end of "abnormal" relations?

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EU, Russia, Ukraine: the end of "abnormal" relations?


Last Sunday, voices from Europe almost lovingly reported that it was time for the EU, Russia and Ukraine to return to the “normal" temperature of relations. In the government of Finland they generally said that Russians should be viewed from the positive side. The very same warm words came from Germany: Angela Merkel believes that the resolution of the Ukrainian crisis should not harm Russia.

As transmits RIA News", on Sunday, Austrian President Heinz Fischer said that relations between the EU, Russia and Ukraine should "return to normal temperatures."

Speaking at the opening of the political division of the European Forum Alpbach in Tirol, Mr. Fischer said: “I hope that Russia will not take steps in the future that will be perceived as a provocation, and relations between the EU, Russia and Ukraine should return to normal temperatures” .

According to him, the meeting of the EU, Russia and Ukraine should be held on an equal footing: “It is necessary to meet on an equal footing and to talk seriously about security interests.”

To this, Fisher added that in politics one must “be able to turn the chessboard over and think with the partner’s head”.

On the same day a voice came from Finland.

Finnish Prime Minister Alexander Stubb gave an interview to Yle TV and Radio Company, in which he urged to look at Russia and the Russians from the positive side.

The fact is that some Russian residents of Finland, due to the Ukrainian crisis, began to speak more quietly in public places. These people are afraid of a negative reaction.

“You cannot blame Russian culture, Finnish Russians, or Russian language for the actions of the Russian government. We need to build a society in which no national minority, including Russians, would be subjected to discrimination, ”Stubba quotes. RIA News".

According to Stubb, if he was now offered to study another foreign language, he would choose Russian. The prime minister recalled that in Finland there are about twenty thousand people with dual Finnish and Russian citizenship and more than sixty thousand people whose first language is Russian.

A press statement from France appeared in the press. Its author is Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius.

The fact that France is open to dialogue with Russia, Monsieur Fabius told the world community through an interview given to Figaro.

“As for Ukraine and Russia, our position remains the same: firmness and dialogue,” the channel quoted Fabius as saying. "RT".

The minister added that “no one in his right mind can offer to fight with Russia, forgetting about stories and geography.

The head of the French Foreign Ministry also noted that Ukraine "should have the opportunity to be in good relations with both neighboring Russia and the European Union, which is also a neighbor."

The code in this European play was performed by Angela Merkel.

According to her, Ukraine’s exit from the political crisis should be safe for Russia. Merkel said this in an interview with the television company ARD, returning from Kiev from a meeting with Poroshenko.

“I would like the resolution of the Ukrainian crisis not to harm Russia,” the Merkel channel quotes "RT". The Federal Chancellor believes that Ukraine and Europe want to maintain a “trusting relationship” with Moscow.

According to Merkel, the only way out of this situation is negotiations. Yes, the planned negotiations in Minsk are unlikely to be a “decisive breakthrough” in solving the problem, but they are necessary. According to her, the Ukrainian crisis will be resolved only with the help of a political solution: “I am convinced that the Ukrainian crisis can only have a political solution, which the European Union and Germany can contribute to, including. There is no military, aggressive solution to the problem, dialogue, political negotiations are necessary as soon as possible. ”

Channel "InoTV" cites other words of the Federal Chancellor.

The West cannot offer NATO membership for Ukraine, Angela Merkel told ARD. According to her, the emphasis is on the territorial integrity of Ukraine, on that “so that the voices of all Ukrainians are heard,” however, they will not offer NATO membership to Ukraine.

“There is a council Ukraine - NATO. To participate in it, President Poroshenko will come to Cardiff, UK. But, as I said, we are not talking about membership. ”


In the meantime, Russia is counting on the fact that NATO will enlighten Ukraine - in the person of Poroshenko, of course. At the same time, the alliance should "rationalize" itself.

As transmits RIA News"Moscow hopes that the North Atlantic Alliance will influence Kiev in order to achieve the fulfillment of the Berlin Declaration and the Geneva Declaration. This 23 August, said the Foreign Ministry.

The statement was connected primarily with a humanitarian convoy.

"Among the numerous fables that sound from Western capitals in connection with the delivery of Russian humanitarian aid to the south-east of Ukraine, attention was drawn to the statement by NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen that the entry of our humanitarian convoy allegedly violates Moscow’s international obligations, taken in Berlin and Geneva, ”the agency comments on the information and press department of the Russian Foreign Ministry.

But after all, it is precisely the fulfillment of the Geneva statement that Moscow demands from Kiev, and “above all in regard to Kiev’s commitment to ensure an inclusive, transparent and accountable constitutional process”.

And not without irony, it is emphasized that neither in the Geneva Statement of Russia, the European Union, the USA and Ukraine of 17 in April, nor in the Berlin Declaration of the Russian Federation, Germany, France and Ukraine of 2 in July, "the theme of humanitarian assistance is not mentioned at all." Well, and a summary: "Therefore, the speech of the head of NATO would not hurt to get acquainted with these documents before bringing the charges."

Let us hope that NATO's unfortunate hacks and the most important commander in NATO will read at least a few paragraphs from the provisions of the documents they so zealously defend in the international arena. And not only will they read it, but they will retell what Mr Poroshenko read, which enlightenment would also benefit.

Maybe then all these actors of the geopolitical theater will understand why the officials of Austria, Finland, France and Germany, despite their busyness, suddenly pulled in large numbers on newspapers and on television channels on Sunday in order to tell their people that they should look at the Russians from the positive side.

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    1. +18
      26 August 2014 09: 34
      ... they will understand why the officials of Austria, Finland, France and Germany, despite their busy schedule, suddenly pulled out in droves on Sunday to newspapers and television channels in order to tell their peoples that they should look at the Russians from the positive side.

      This happened because Russia began to firmly defend its interests and imposed retaliatory sanctions. The West only understands force.
      1. BYV
        +28
        26 August 2014 09: 38
        This one especially smiled:
        The minister added that "no one in his right mind can offer to fight with Russia, having forgotten about history and geography."

        It’s like in a joke: for those who want to review the results of the Second World War, Russia is ready to show them laughing
        1. 0
          26 August 2014 21: 25
          We can repeat many times and encore!
      2. +7
        26 August 2014 09: 51
        Quote: rotmistr60
        This happened because Russia began to firmly defend its interests and imposed retaliatory sanctions. The West understands only power.


        This is a long-standing truth with a gay person, as with representatives of the solar system, you can speak only from a position of strength, and a blatant Saxon rabble can only be talked about when the last fork or hot crowbar rests on the ass.
      3. mihasik
        +8
        26 August 2014 10: 34
        Quote: rotmistr60
        This happened because Russia began to firmly defend its interests and imposed retaliatory sanctions. The West understands only power.


        And I would have also forced to answer for defamation in an international court!
        To get their rough tool for anilingus, the USA is less likely to get it, or even lick it completely.
        (Anilingus lat. Anus - anus + lingo - lick)
      4. 0
        26 August 2014 12: 32
        I would suggest for Poroshenko a slightly different route, instead of Kiev - Minsk - Cardiff, more suitable for him - Kiev - Minsk - KOLYMA. And the purpose of the route: LABOR TOURISM with a lifelong stay.
      5. 0
        26 August 2014 13: 14
        The minister added that "no one in his right mind can offer to fight with Russia, having forgotten about history and geography."

        This means that if Russia was less, but less weak, they would gobble up and not disdain. Where is the civilized approach to European affairs? Where is common Europe and the construction of a common bright European future?
        There is none, there is neither intention, nor desire to include us (and the former USSR in general) in the common European house. They will always be We.
        All of this should be carefully considered - for the residents of, first of all, Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Georgia, and Azerbaijan. negative
    2. +9
      26 August 2014 09: 39
      Only the forcemeat cannot be turned back, and meat from cutlets cannot be restored. Russia was forced to pay for the concert, now dance. They think they will pat Vlad on the shoulder condescendingly, well, we’re ours, you understand, it didn’t work out, and Russia again wags its tail like under Gorbachev.
      Anglo-Saxons and their lackeys need to be put in place, you look and the world will be safer.
    3. +2
      26 August 2014 09: 50
      oh, one place was combed in Europe, they began to think, morons ...
      1. +1
        26 August 2014 11: 45
        Quote: Evgesh91
        oh, one place was combed in Europe, they began to think, morons ...

        They just hope that we will be happy and begin to help Ukraine financially. Don’t give money, they will smash with gas without an advance payment.
    4. +3
      26 August 2014 09: 52
      It is necessary to once and for all learn that Anglo-Saxon policy was always directed against Russia, even when they helped they did it only for their own benefit and always kept a knife behind them!
    5. The comment was deleted.
    6. +10
      26 August 2014 09: 53
      "To this Fischer added that in politics you need to" be able to turn the chessboard over and think with your partner's head. "
      Russia needs to take the chessboard more often and beat these fucking partners over the head. They will be more peaceful, that's truly: "every 100 years the world gathers against Russia in order to get a pill and live in peace for another 100 years."
      1. 0
        26 August 2014 21: 23
        They need to run Twelve Chairs at the box office to know how it's done! - "Excuse me, my boat was just here," and then Osia Bender showed it in practice! Got it, that's where Fischer (a chess name, by the way) took over the theme.
    7. +7
      26 August 2014 09: 54
      Messrs. NATO members have already seen CRIMEA as their base, and here, the OPA and the bummer. Now they are unanimously offering to be friends with their families, except for especially frostbitten ones.
    8. VICTOR-61
      +1
      26 August 2014 09: 54
      I think that in October the EU will begin to draw closer to Russia, moving away from the influence of amers, we were able to defend our point of view in Ukraine and the Americans lost everywhere, their failures went even with Syria, the mistake turned out
    9. +6
      26 August 2014 09: 56
      To believe in Europe and the United States means to be, to put it mildly, a naive fool. The USA, Europe will NEVER be not only friends to us, but also just peaceful neighbors. Their goal is one - the collapse of Russia and the seizure of territory. They have been pursuing this goal for a very long time and believe that they are closer than ever. But you can play "peaceful intentions". Only for your own benefit.
      1. netwalker
        +2
        26 August 2014 14: 42
        "Russia has only two druses: its Army and Navy"
        I think Alexander III
    10. +5
      26 August 2014 09: 58
      The harder the militias beat punishers, the kinder Frau Merkel laughing Frau is afraid that only memories will remain from their project "fascist Ukraine" wassat The EU and the USA are to blame for what is happening there, even if they continue to carry out the orders of their black master am Russia is again "trying to spread the bazaar" and deceive as always.
    11. +3
      26 August 2014 09: 59
      The truth about Russia can’t be erased from the world’s analogs, just as gentlemen do not twist the Russian translators, and the Russian doctrine is defensive ....
    12. +3
      26 August 2014 10: 00
      here, scalded European bugs with boiling water, immediately recovered
    13. +9
      26 August 2014 10: 01
      Europe was barking at the old dog. And they already forgot the Russian boot in their own city.
    14. +8
      26 August 2014 10: 02
      Quote: Oleg Chuvakin
      Maybe then all these actors of the geopolitical theater will understand why the officials of Austria, Finland, France and Germany, despite their busyness, suddenly pulled in large numbers on newspapers and on television channels on Sunday in order to tell their people that they should look at the Russians from the positive side.

      As soon as Novorossiya drove the enemy, so immediately the west of the world wanted.
      Remember *** how it usually ends ...

      1. netwalker
        +3
        26 August 2014 14: 48
        "Diplomats begin work when the war is effectively lost"
        Someone from modern politicians smile
        1. -1
          26 August 2014 17: 24
          Quote: netwalker
          "Diplomats begin work when the war is effectively lost"
          Someone from modern politicians

          Someone who is not quite modern said: "When the politicians are silent, the cannons begin to speak."
    15. +16
      26 August 2014 10: 21
      Amazing metamorphoses occur in the speeches of European politicians in recent days. More recently, when she was in Kiev, Frau Merkel completely unprovenly accused Russia of delivering weapons to New Russia and even direct military intervention in Ukraine. But only a couple of days passed and the rhetoric of this frau changed a lot. The military successes of Novorossia brought the crisis of power to almost the point of collapse. The defeats of the Ukrainian army are similar to the Kursk defeat of the Nazis in the summer of 1943. By the way, symbolically, the defeat of the ukronazists began on the day of the victorious end of the Battle of Kursk.
      Poroshenko urgently needs a truce, just like air, otherwise the end. The army is crumbling, the economy is falling apart, winter is coming, there is no money in the treasury, Kolomoisky has already clung to the military guard, the military pideras is getting confused and Yulia has not lurked for nothing. Generally oil painting.
      Frau understands that the Ukraine project has collapsed. Russia not only did not succumb to pressure, but itself stepped on the corn of Europe quite painfully.
      From the history of the last fifty years, we can state that Europe has finally slipped to the position of a whore in content. She doesn’t care, sucks from America, so why not lick from Russia. That's just America is jealous. They are unlikely to want to pull the black bolt out of Europe's mouth. So Frau will have to come up with a new pose. Kama Sutra is resting
      1. 0
        26 August 2014 20: 50
        Quote: Jackyun
        Amazing metamorphoses occur in the speeches of European politicians in recent days.


        It's only the beginning. laughing
    16. zvvzvv
      0
      26 August 2014 10: 55
      The best answer for the geyropes: YES NO CAN BE.
    17. +1
      26 August 2014 11: 25
      Cranks sober up. Looks understood that the Obamovskiy viskarik turned out to be the most common shmurdyak singed - one headache and heartburn.
    18. +1
      26 August 2014 11: 29

      The minister added that "no one in his right mind can offer to fight with Russia, having forgotten about history and geography."

      The end of the junta, the so-called. "ATO" is bursting at the seams, so curtsies begin, but
      Veil, veil, all this is just a veil ... (as Comrade Stalin said). Or: if you are far away - show what is close, if you are weak - show strength. Woe to him who is deceived.
    19. -2
      26 August 2014 11: 33
      "We need to build a society in which not a single national minority, including Russians .."
      Are they now holding us for blacks? am national minority .. including Russian .. fool Ofigeli ?! or fear lost? angry or decided that they are the nat. most? fool Forgot whose country is the most in the world ?! am and who is the "minority"? am am am We can remind .. soldier or show .. am
      1. Squares
        +4
        26 August 2014 11: 38
        Quote: press attache
        "We need to build a society in which not a single national minority, including Russians .."
        Are they now holding us for blacks? am national minority .. including Russian .. fool Ofigeli ?! or fear lost? angry or decided that they are the nat. most? fool Forgot whose country is the most in the world ?! am and who is the "minority"? am am am We can remind .. soldier or show .. am

        Was there not enough strength to read the line above? It's about Finnish Russians. And what is a kindergarten with emoticons?
    20. 0
      26 August 2014 11: 37
      Quote: Evgesh91
      oh, one place was combed in Europe, they began to think, morons ...

      That combed is not for thoughts ....
    21. Wolland
      0
      26 August 2014 11: 47
      Quote: Jackyun
      Amazing metamorphoses occur in the speeches of European politicians in recent days. More recently, when she was in Kiev, Frau Merkel completely unprovenly accused Russia of delivering weapons to New Russia and even direct military intervention in Ukraine. But only a couple of days passed and the rhetoric of this frau changed a lot. The military successes of Novorossia brought the crisis of power to almost the point of collapse. The defeats of the Ukrainian army are similar to the Kursk defeat of the Nazis in the summer of 1943. By the way, symbolically, the defeat of the ukronazists began on the day of the victorious end of the Battle of Kursk.
      Poroshenko urgently needs a truce, just like air, otherwise the end. The army is crumbling, the economy is falling apart, winter is coming, there is no money in the treasury, Kolomoisky has already clung to the military guard, the military pideras is getting confused and Yulia has not lurked for nothing. Generally oil painting.
      Frau understands that the Ukraine project has collapsed. Russia not only did not succumb to pressure, but itself stepped on the corn of Europe quite painfully.
      From the history of the last fifty years, we can state that Europe has finally slipped to the position of a whore in content. She doesn’t care, sucks from America, so why not lick from Russia. That's just America is jealous. They are unlikely to want to pull the black bolt out of Europe's mouth. So Frau will have to come up with a new pose. Kama Sutra is resting


      Gorgeous expression of thought and facts, better not say .....
    22. Uriah Mushroom
      +3
      26 August 2014 11: 58
      I do not believe these doves of the world ... Russia has only two loyal friends, the army and navy, we should always remember this and teach children. Do not flatter yourself about Europe, it has always sinned in political prostitution in favor of the powers that be. Therefore, Russia must be strong economically and politically, not depend on anyone. Sanctions and other means of pressure should bring us positive fruits of independence from the West.
      1. korjik
        -1
        26 August 2014 18: 54
        Wonderful words about the army and navy! But why are they remembered when a cock bites in the ass? It is necessary to cast these words in arshin letters and set them opposite the Kremlin, at the Monument to the Nameless Soldier. And the road to the Duma should be altered so that the "people's deputies" would pass by every morning!
        Yes, the US must be destroyed!
    23. +2
      26 August 2014 12: 14
      That's all, Geyrop has eaten himself up with his goods ... And soon winter will be cold too, and the pipe lies through Ukraine ... wink
    24. +2
      26 August 2014 12: 18
      - Son, look there so that not a single cholera is on our land!
      - Come on, no one will rush at us, do not panic.
      - Did you throw yourself?
      - They rushed, Well, they gave them!
      (C) Love and doves
    25. +2
      26 August 2014 12: 43
      Fir from the West? Most likely they’re up to something. They can’t and shouldn’t be believed! am
    26. +1
      26 August 2014 14: 32
      It seems that Europe understood that the project of Ukraine just came to an end, but they still cannot understand how to get out of it with a clean face. I think it will not work for them. Their GDP will dunk more than once in their own ....
    27. +1
      26 August 2014 14: 46
      Everything is as usual: it was not possible to take Russia impudently, now they will begin to "quietly" undermine our foundations with the help of 5 columns, it is time for the GDP to thin out the so-called beds. "opposition" there are no more fierce enemies than internal ones! Europe cannot be trusted, let alone its politicians; betrayal, lies and impudent pretensions to someone else's are their main intentions in relation to Russia, but let them not forget that we are not "bastard", the answer will fly in and you will not even have time to understand from whom and for what!
    28. 0
      26 August 2014 15: 22
      ... the statement by NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen that the entry of our humanitarian convoy allegedly violates Moscow’s international obligations, including those undertaken in Berlin and Geneva, attracted attention.

      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/028/rtyp833.jpg
      1. Camouflet
        +1
        26 August 2014 18: 01
        Rasmussen is a type! ...

        Personally, he always impressed me as a moron (both in face and in speech).

        And always wears these bags under the eyes. Either he drinks beer immeasurably, or he doesn’t have kidneys in one. In a word, it’s time for him to be treated.
    29. +1
      26 August 2014 15: 22
      Russians became quieter ??? I became quieter !!! FEAR !!!!
    30. +1
      26 August 2014 15: 24
      The review lacks Hungary. God knows what country, but still.
      Hungary seeks allies in the EU to end the trade war with Russia
      Hungary looks at the Russian Federation as a business partner, and not from a security point of view, as the Hungarian government, the Baltic states and Poland do, as they do. Therefore, Victor Orban believes that it is necessary to look for allies among the countries of the European Union to end the trade war with Russia and to lift sanctions.
      1. 0
        26 August 2014 20: 48
        Quote: thinker
        Hungary seeks allies in the EU to end the trade war with Russia


        What to look for them? Throw Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Romania out of the EU and only allies will remain. Well, almost allies. laughing
    31. 0
      26 August 2014 15: 47
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      Cranks sober up. Looks understood that the Obamovskiy viskarik turned out to be the most common shmurdyak singed - one headache and heartburn.

      You do not slurp it without measure)))
    32. 0
      26 August 2014 15: 53
      Quote: Wolland
      Quote: Jackyun
      Amazing metamorphoses occur in the speeches of European politicians in recent days. More recently, when she was in Kiev, Frau Merkel completely unprovenly accused Russia of delivering weapons to New Russia and even direct military intervention in Ukraine. But only a couple of days passed and the rhetoric of this frau changed a lot. The military successes of Novorossia brought the crisis of power to almost the point of collapse. The defeats of the Ukrainian army are similar to the Kursk defeat of the Nazis in the summer of 1943. By the way, symbolically, the defeat of the ukronazists began on the day of the victorious end of the Battle of Kursk.
      Poroshenko urgently needs a truce, just like air, otherwise the end. The army is crumbling, the economy is falling apart, winter is coming, there is no money in the treasury, Kolomoisky has already clung to the military guard, the military pideras is getting confused and Yulia has not lurked for nothing. Generally oil painting.
      Frau understands that the Ukraine project has collapsed. Russia not only did not succumb to pressure, but itself stepped on the corn of Europe quite painfully.
      From the history of the last fifty years, we can state that Europe has finally slipped to the position of a whore in content. She doesn’t care, sucks from America, so why not lick from Russia. That's just America is jealous. They are unlikely to want to pull the black bolt out of Europe's mouth. So Frau will have to come up with a new pose. Kama Sutra is resting


      Gorgeous expression of thought and facts, better not say .....


      People are able to in a few words so accurately reflect the situation!
    33. +2
      26 August 2014 15: 54
      The key to peaceful and successful negotiations with our partners is a "heavy crack" and a "colt on the table". In the conditions of the modern world order (which, by the way, was invented by the Anglo-Saxons and Europedics, not the Slavs), it is possible to talk with their foreign "partners" only from the position of power superiority, and then from the position of common sense. This is exactly what the Russian Federation is doing, first Crimea, then retaliatory sanctions, and all this against the background of active rearmament.
    34. +1
      26 August 2014 17: 51
      A good word and colt is better than just a good word.
    35. Camouflet
      0
      26 August 2014 18: 11
      it’s time to return to the “normal” temperature of the relationship.


      Nothing! Died - so died.

      Look, they got hot!
      Well, if it's hot, then you can shut off the gas, and the Gulf Stream at the same time.

      Of course, it is necessary to talk with Europe. And to act as in Krylov's fable - "And Vaska listens, but eats."

    36. +2
      26 August 2014 18: 40
      "Russia in the future will not take steps that will be perceived as a provocation"
      Kaneshna!
      The GDP will stretch to scratch the back of the head-Putin is brandishing his fists !!! He puts his hand in his pocket - Putin will take out a knife and kill us all !!! He politely asks to pay for the stolen gas - Putin escalates the international situation by strangling a peaceful neighbor !!!
      Ugh! The infamous geyropeysky politik ...
    37. +1
      26 August 2014 18: 46
      Of course, better late than never. But it's too late. Neither federalization nor peaceful PA plans are relevant.
    38. 0
      26 August 2014 21: 19
      The fact is that some Russian residents of Finland, due to the Ukrainian crisis, began to talk more quietly in public places.

      Yes, we began to talk more quietly so that you wouldn’t put fear in your pants! You wake up every morning, turn on the TV and, with a shudder of heart, are afraid to hear: - Today, without declaring war, Russia ... Russia ... and so on!
      Or they forgot about how one of the prime ministers of sprat republics said - be afraid of green and polite little men!
    39. 0
      26 August 2014 22: 15
      How Piglet spoke!
      "provide .., allow ..., must be able to ....
      Vile lie!
      As there before, their woman with a scythe shouted into the phone:
      Promise them everything they ask for! We will hang them later, one by one! ... (c)
      Therefore, do not go to this kind of agreement with the junta.
      There, in the republics at the helm are not stupid people.
      Understand this and remember those words of the Ukrainian witch.
      Good luck military, militia guys !!!!
      If death is instant, if wounds are not great!
    40. 0
      26 August 2014 22: 25
      Personally, he always impressed me as a moron (both in face and in speech).

      And I have an association for this eccentric, from our good cartoon about a drunken wet, scruffy sparrow! Do you remember? Well, just one - one! lol
    41. 0
      26 August 2014 22: 57
      Either Russia is bad for them, then they feel bad without Russia. The fools themselves got confused, they confused their burghers, so they also try to drag us into their charades of uncertainty and dependence on their overseas masters. Not the EU. and bitter tears .... And also good, good-quality ours to them "get a taste". Yes, that I really, the latter they do not understand.

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