SWOT for Kazakhstan

I wrote this small analysis not only for the people of Kazakhstan, but for the neighboring countries - the Russian Federation in the first place, since we are, of course, largely interdependent. What is happening in the republics of the former USSR is for all of us much more important than what is happening in foreign countries.
We are united not only by the CU and the Eurasian Union, but by the fact that the peoples and lands of our republics have been united under different names for thousands of years.

I propose to readers of the discussion site an analysis of the strengths and weaknesses for Kazakhstan, as well as possible threats and opportunities. We know this analysis under the abbreviation SWOT and are usually used to evaluate business projects or organizations.

So, let's begin.

Strengths or advantages of Kazakhstan

Energy and other mineral resources. Developed infrastructure with
Soviet times. Railway network. Power lines. Explored and developed deposits. Neighborhood with friendly or allied states.

Weaknesses or disadvantages

Remoteness from sea routes. The absence of a large consumer market. Unfavorable climate. The income stratification of the population.

Capabilities

The opportunity to become part of the large consumer market of the Eurasian Union. Specialization and cooperation within this market.

Threatening

Political and international risks. Possible deficiencies: fresh water in the region, energy resources in the world.

I would be very grateful if anyone could supplement and correct me.

Comments

[afire]

How is it not voluminous or something ...
Go deep into the details and look forward to SWOT 2.0
Our markets and our general and local problems are much wider and require a very close relationship and the necessary solutions ... some almost immediate!

[Circle]

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWOT-%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B7
Disadvantages:
The SWOT analysis shows only general factors. Specific measures to achieve the goals must be developed separately.

[Canep]

Energy and other mineral resources. Developed infrastructure with
Soviet times. Railway network. Power lines. Explored and developed deposits. Neighborhood with friendly or allied states.

At the time of gaining independence, Kazakhstan did not produce a single barrel of oil or a single cubic meter of gas. The road network is far from being developed and the railway network has expanded greatly and has been electrified in most sections only in the last 10 years. As for the "friendly" Uzbekistan, the author would not hurt to ask about the news about border conflicts with shooting and corpses.

[nvv]

Talgat, and answer me this question: why are Putin, Lukashenko persuaded in all cases, and Nazarbayev clean. Something is not clean here.

[nvv]

So I say, since the cons are not clean. I even know why.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: nvv

and Nazarbayev is clean.

leads a very tricky policy - both ours and yours

[Ayujak]

The official name is Multi-Vector Policy.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

there is one proverb, for two hares ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

I didn’t even doubt that the vectors directed in the opposite direction will not give

[WKS]

I wrote this short analysis not only for residents of Kazakhstan, but also for neighboring countries - the Russian Federation in the first place, since we are, of course, to a large extent interdependent.

I doubt that this outline of the article is any analysis at all.

[Hleb]

Tolik simply sketched a topic of conversation that worries him. Well, and a little confused in terms

[Cadet787]

Recently, our allies have been behaving somehow strange in relation to Russia, with such allies and enemies it is not necessary .....

[Oldwiser]

Thank you for the fact that there are and will not be likened to the Americans, who build all for themselves

[Semurg]

Quote: Cadet787

Recently, our allies have been behaving somehow strange in relation to Russia, with such allies and enemies it is not necessary .....

Are you talking about someone about the army and navy of the Russian Federation?

[Lindon]

Which member of the Central Committee first called Kruchkov and declared full support for the Emergency Committee?
Who hired Kryuchkov’s people after the GKChP’s failure? Who did not go to Belovezhskaya Pushcha? Who signed the Declaration of Independence in December? Who in 1994 suggested creating an analogue of the EU on the site of the former USSR.
You can continue indefinitely - all of Nazarbayev’s actions speak of his foresight as a politician who has relied on unification, primarily within the framework of the former USSR.
Lukashenko and Putin are not so long-livers in politics.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Lindon

Who did not go to Belovezhskaya Pushcha?

you know a bad story just went but the half of the road pretended that the plane could not refuel

Quote: Lindon

Who in 1994 suggested creating an analogue of the EU on the site of the former USSR.

and at the same time negotiating with the mattresses about the bases

Quote: Lindon

You can go on forever - all the actions of Nazarbayev speak of his foresight

they talk about cunning and resourcefulness

Quote: Lindon

made a bet on the union - primarily in the framework of the former USSR.

it’s not included in his task, he will stagnate for a long time at the place keeping his existing status.
he doesn’t need real unification; he seems to be both for and at the same time for independence, thereby feeding breakfast to both supporters and opponents of integration into the Republic of Kazakhstan, and he makes his own gesheft, Kolomoisky, Yanukov’s and bucket would have been envious of the NAS’s business

[Lindon]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: Lindon

Who did not go to Belovezhskaya Pushcha?

you know a bad story just went but the half of the road pretended that the plane could not refuel

Quote: Lindon

Who in 1994 suggested creating an analogue of the EU on the site of the former USSR.

and at the same time negotiating with the mattresses about the bases

Quote: Lindon

You can go on forever - all the actions of Nazarbayev speak of his foresight

they talk about cunning and resourcefulness

Quote: Lindon

made a bet on the union - primarily in the framework of the former USSR.

it’s not included in his task, he will stagnate for a long time at the place keeping his existing status.
he doesn’t need real unification; he seems to be both for and at the same time for independence, thereby feeding breakfast to both supporters and opponents of integration into the Republic of Kazakhstan, and he makes his own gesheft, Kolomoisky, Yanukov’s and bucket would have been envious of the NAS’s business

Each sees his own way by virtue of his subjective perception. Let your not-so-distant judgments remain on your conscience by virtue of the fact that you did not back up any of your high-profile statements with at least some evidence.
How many do not try, the glory of Goebels does not shine for you. You can interpret it as you like - it is still impossible to refute the facts.
Next time write that there was diarrhea and therefore didn’t get there, otherwise they couldn’t refuel and the train with the car was unavailable - it’s just ridiculous to read to me.
What mythical bases are we talking about? Do you feed the brain with the speculation of the tabloid press, or is there concrete evidence - place, calculations, cost? So there are places-rent-terms for Russian bases, and your speculations have the same air?
Cunning and resourcefulness in 1994 year to offer the TS to the drunk Yeltsin? Are you raving
What is included in your task is clear to me for a long time, but as Wang you are no longer a predictor - TS with 2010, and EAEU with 2015. Facts are stubborn things and Goebels' tricks here will not help like in Stalingrad.
Time passes, and all childish grievances of any kind from an adult are boring to read.
Engage in a barn and don’t bother to talk about what you don’t understand.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Lindon

Let your not-so-distant judgments remain on your conscience by virtue of the fact that you did not back up any of your high-profile statements with at least some evidence.

let's point by point, it is clear that I cannot prove about the landing of the NAS plane, but I did not record his statements of that period on video, although this is a fact and it was said in some interview that I have not yet confirmed, let's point it out, we can succeed " to be rehabilitated, "third, let's not talk about" closeness "sorry, but you can give evidence of my" closeness "

here to refute the facts still fail

you bring the facts to begin with, while you just blaspheme me

Quote: Lindon

What mythical bases are we talking about?

probably about which the Kazakh media write about
...in April 2002, during a working visit to Kazakhstan of the then US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and his meeting with the President of Kazakhstan Nursultan Nazarbayev, the intention was expressed to provide the US Air Force with airfields in Almaty, Shymkent and Lugovoi ...
Read more: http://news.nur.kz/154470.html
here's another
http://www.contur.kz/node/587

Quote: Lindon

What is included in your task - I have long understood

so tell everyone, or next blah blah and not a single fact other than insults

Quote: Lindon

Engage in a barn and do not meddle in discussing what you do not understand

well, apparently you will figure it out with us, though you cannot refute me with facts and you are content with insults, by the way, if there were as much evidence in open sources about GDP or some other policy of the Russian Federation as there is about the corruption of the "family", they would disappear from the political olympus

[Lindon]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

you bring the facts to begin with, while you just blaspheme me

Back to the points:
Nazarbayev in Belovezhskaya Pushcha did not wait - although they invited.
1994 proposed creating an analogue of the EU on the site of the former USSR.
Offered to unite? Offered.
Foresight - have the CU and the EAEU become a reality or not?

With age, you need to cast aside emotions and not reason like young hot heads. Databases, as it turned out, exist only on the pages of the tabloid press - there is not a single memorandum / communique officially in nature - rather weak. But this is the USA after 09 / 11, after consultations with Putin and his full support, they received bases in Central Asia except Kazakhstan. Putin did not object to the opening of CSTO members - Manas and Khanabad, and even planned to join NATO http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/273093/
Will we still have a lot of trouble? Enough to build a man responsible for the bazaar.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Lindon

did not wait - although they invited

flew, but did not fly

Quote: Lindon

proposed to create an analogue of the EU

iii?
or maybe for that he suggested, sort of like an integrator, but at the same time

[Lindon]

How does a man even recognize his quotes?

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

it is clear that I can’t prove about the landing of the ANAS

Cunning assurance is already about you.
Hare Claudia torture. Either the Integrator, or the cunning.
Decide - I understand the crisis - Nazarbayev is the president, and you have kitchen speculations about non-existent bases, shortcomings and emotional epithets without facts.
We are all human - who is here without sin? Everyone was wrong, and Putin and Nazarbayev. The main thing men even getting lost is that they still return to the right road. There is no USSR, but there is already the CU and the EAEU, and this is the beginning.
The question was not in Kazakhstan and Belarus, but in the drunk Yeltsin, Putin’s inexperience. And now Putin can already separate the cutlets from the flies and has no illusions like in the 2000's. If Russia sees enemies everywhere, then it will go far. This is true for any country - everyone needs partners, allies and just good relations for development. Driving yourself into isolation is unproductive - examples from Albania to the North. Korea.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Lindon

Cunning assurance is already about you.

for the hundredth time for the gifted you will poke your kin
now read on the topic what I wrote in full, I have no opportunity to show you the recordings of speeches of 91-92, despite the fact that Nazik cleans up the "history" extremely cleverly

Quote: Lindon

The question was not in Kazakhstan and Belarus, but in the drunk Yeltsin, Putin’s inexperience.

and in Kazakhstan, including Nazik, I grabbed so much that I will never refuse it

[Lindon]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: Lindon

Cunning assurance is already about you.

for the hundredth time for the gifted you will poke your kin

Vasilenko, thanks for your feedback on

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

you bad story

Your upbringing goes through the roof.

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Nazik is extremely clever at cleansing "history"

You need to write books about conspiracy theories - this is in our era of the Internet, Wikileaks, NSA and Snowden.

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

and in Kazakhstan, including Nazik, I grabbed so much that I will never refuse it

Vasilenko, do you have memory problems? We are discussing 4 facts mentioned in the first comment to my post. Stop trolling and dodging. Like an adult man, but like an offended child. The cook cannot run the state, and not every peasant understands the intricacies of big politics. Know your cricket six. Nazarbayev rose from the peasants to the presidency, and Vasilenko moved to the barn. Maybe it’s enough to envy and rush "nazik" - you do not communicate with the lads, but with decent people.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Lindon

Maybe it’s enough to envy and rush "nazik" - you do not communicate with the lads, but with decent people.

Apparently you agree with the "grabbed" and are dissatisfied with my envy, but about not with the lads, a moot point.

Quote: Lindon

Nazarbayev from the peasants rose to the presidency, and Vasilenko moved to the barn

in fact, from the "workers" I'm interested in you so with disdain for labor on the ground that I doubt your Kazakhness, have long been torn from the earth ?!
or you think that the money earned at the office when trading in air is nobler than that earned by the sale of milk, by the way, not in the barn, but in the goat’s.

[Alibekulu]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

they talk about cunning and resourcefulness

But then of course

From one biography about Nazarbayev:
At the outskirts are 2nd father Nureke Abish and his neighbor, let Ivan be.
Ivan: Ah, you have a beautiful son, Abish
- Beautiful, agrees Abish.,
- And smart, and cunning - a bastard ..

[kuzia rocker]

It's time, guys, it's time to unite both in politics and in trade and in the moral and spiritual plan - enough is enough for the West and the mattress to lick

[siberalt]

"weaknesses and weaknesses"

So it is in Russia, the division of income in different regions varies by an order of magnitude. So what?

[Giant thought]

The main advantage of Kazakhstan is its friendship with Russia.

[Bombardier]

In my opinion, now the main thing for Nursultan Abishevich (if you made a mistake with the name, please excuse me) is to find a replacement. I wanted to say that he needed to prepare a successor, put him into work, where he could earn the respect of the people of Kazakhstan. Nazarbayev is not eternal (as Putin is, by the way), and the region is not the calmest, and friends from across the ocean will still stir up water here, besides, Uzbekistan is on the verge of great upheaval - Karimov is very sick, practically retired, resulting in an undercover a struggle that does not bode well for either Uzbekistan or its neighbors. Ukraine is not the end point of the United States, in the post-Soviet space. And Central Asia at the Americans, in reserve. Therefore, a country that is friendly to us needs a strong leader who enjoys well-deserved support from the people.

[goose]

+5
The continuity of power and political course (read - stability) is not disclosed.

[Ayujak]

Colleague agree! The question is very acute. There are no real alternatives. Well, the one who could really hold on to power. Daughter of NAS or his relatives? They have no chance. The clans are already fighting. As in Uzbekistan. "Against this background, it is very good to stir up something" orange "- they think in the CIA.

[Drednout]

Quote: AYUJAK

Colleague agree! The question is very acute. There are no real alternatives. Well, the one who could really hold on to power. Daughter of NAS or his relatives? They have no chance. The clans are already fighting. As in Uzbekistan. "Against this background, it is very good to stir up something" orange "- they think in the CIA.

One hundred percent!!! Kazakhstan is not Turkmenistan, and even there Turkmenbashi did not last long after death, and Nursultan is still like a second zhuz, and after (God forbid, but we will all be there) the first zhuz will certainly fight for power. Still, the neighbor is not as stable as we would like. Making Yeltsin's move with the nomination of his Kazakh "Putin" is one of the options.

[costa_cs]

My minus, for that

Quote: Drednout

the second zhuz ... the first zhuz will surely fight for power

Do not persuade zhuzes and politics, it is both warm and soft. Power and clans in Kazakhstan are grouped by business-financial, friendly and family ties, and not by zhuzes. Senior, middle and junior zhuzes are just names, not a real relationship and hierarchy of zhuzes.
Applied to Russia, it will sound like "Putin is still from the Novgorod lands and after his death the Tver principality will definitely fight for power."

[Drednout]

Quote: kosta_cs

Applied to Russia, it will sound like "Putin is still from the Novgorod lands and after his death the Tver principality will definitely fight for power."

Well, actually something like that happened in times of turmoil. It applies just to Russia. The fact that now it’s not worth dropping zhuzes and politics is, not least, Nazarbayev’s merit.
Thank you for explaining the minus.

[Lindon]

Quote: Drednout

and Nursultan is still like the second zhuz, and after (God forbid, but we will all be there) the death of Nazarbayev, the first zhuz will certainly fight for power. Still, the neighbor is not as stable as we would like. Making Yeltsin's move with the nomination of his Kazakh "Putin" is one of the options.

The second zhuz is St. Petersburg, and the first Moscow?
Officially there are senior, middle and junior zhuzes.
There was a supposedly unwritten rule in the USSR: the 1 secretary was the senior, the Head of the SovMin was the middle and the Chairman of the Supreme Council was the younger. In reality, everything is much more complicated - the main principle of personal devotion - the rest does not matter.
Yeltsin put Putin in exchange for guarantees to the Family. Why should Nazarbayev have a different way?

[Semurg]

Quote: AYUJAK

Colleague agree! The question is very acute. There are no real alternatives. Well, the one who could really hold on to power. Daughter of NAS or his relatives? They have no chance. The clans are already fighting. As in Uzbekistan. "Against this background, it is very good to stir up something" orange "- they think in the CIA.

I will tell you a little secret of NAS, a native of the zhailau (letovka) clan, which is in the mountains. So he is a "Highlander" and you can not bury him for now

[romb]

Salem! The main thing is that he, like MacLeod, should not be immortal.

[Semurg]

Salem as much as Allah noted to him, so much will live (Kysmet).

[Barvetum]

No, you were not mistaken. We in Kazakhstan also understand this. Nazarbayev is also not eternal, and sooner or later he will not. And then the clan war will begin. The main thing is that as in Ukraine did not happen.

[Oldwiser]

and the wisdom of the first leader

[Kasym]

Imagine that the NAS will now designate the receiver. Big business and bureaucrats will rush about to keep their nose in the wind. This discord will begin. Therefore, it will most likely leave, like Yeltsin. Only at the last moment will it be designated. And the fact that he already has no doubt.

[insafufa]

So everything is correctly written, there is an opportunity for all of us to develop this closer cooperation without it is not like I enjoy eating Uzbek tomatoes and Turkmen melon with Kazakhstan watermelons

[Veteran of the Red Army]

Remoteness from sea routes. The absence of a large consumer market. Unfavorable climate. The income stratification of the population.

The authority and power of the head of state is clan based on clan ties.
The continuity of the policy of the existing government is not ensured.
With a change of leader, it is very likely that the scenario "Maidan Ukraine"

[Hleb]

but how to understand this for example? very interesting

The authority and power of the head of state is clan based on clan ties.

[Cu6up9k]

I do not agree with the concept of "developed infrastructure". I was recently in Kazakhstan. I drove from north to south and back. Roads in very poor condition (except in large cities). The railway is underdeveloped. I can agree that the attitude is changing at the moment. In many places I saw roads under construction. And I want to hope that we will build and develop together.

[Semurg]

Quote: Cu6up9k

I do not agree with the concept of "developed infrastructure". I was recently in Kazakhstan. I drove from north to south and back. Roads in very poor condition (except in large cities). The railway is underdeveloped. I can agree that the attitude is changing at the moment. In many places I saw roads under construction. And I want to hope that we will build and develop together.

I would like to clarify the route of your trip from north to south of the Republic of Kazakhstan, to understand you saw our worst or best roads ... On railway I would like to clarify the word "underdeveloped", what do you mean by that? To clarify, one railway road in Siberia from west to east is a poorly and moderately developed railway network.

[DMB-75]

Nothing needs to be divided into anything, but simply to live in good neighborliness with its neighbors as under the USSR. Tension and division of the country will not make prosperous.

[ale-x]

Quote: afire

How is it not voluminous or something ...

"Brevity is the sister of talent" (C)

[andj61]

Quote: ale-x

Quote: afire

How is it not voluminous or something ...

"Brevity is the sister of talent" (C)

Brevity is Talgat's sister.

[Talgat]

cool joke andj61! laughed heartily - and not at all offensive!

Yes, I admit 100% that this is not a full-fledged analysis - this word is used because such a short tablet is conventionally called like this: "swot analysis"

the goal was to get additional points from the collective discussion

Many thanks to all my friends - I will add and give an updated version in the next such brief swat across the Russian Federation and Uzbekistan - neighbors from the south and north

[Same lech]

Of course, the analysis is rather weak.

A detailed analysis of the economy and society of KAZAKHSTAN will take a multi-page document and it is pointless to do this on this site.

[mig31]

If the creator soldered our territories historically, to go against the will of the creator is a crime, reason is given to man so that he can reason what is good, what is bad ...

[Dardanec]

In my opinion, it is worth adding the possibility of Islamization, both of Kazakhstan itself and of the states bordering it from the south. If this option is not priseketsya, then the chances of becoming part of the large consumer market of the Eurasian Union will be very small. For this, including Kazakhstan, it may be worthwhile to contribute to the expansion of this market (and the common cultural space) through the involvement of Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and, ideally, Uzbekistan over time ... So far, Kazakhstan has not been particularly active in providing such assistance.

[Lindon]

Quote: DARDANEC

In my opinion, it is worth adding the possibility of Islamization, both of Kazakhstan itself and of the states bordering it from the south.

And what kind of Islamization threatens Kazakhstan?
Can you give an analysis of the depth of penetration of Islam in society among Kazakhs and Uzbeks?
Compare with the Arab countries and Iran, and then we will begin to understand what we have in reality.

[saag]

Quote: Lindon

And what kind of Islamization threatens Kazakhstan?

Salafist :-)

[Vasilich]

And the fact that the Russians are fleeing from anywhere to the Russian Federation is in which block to carry ...

[Circle]

http://forbes.kz/process/nazarbaev_v_sluchae_peregibov_s_gosyazyikom_nas_jdet_su
dba_ukrainyi /

[Hleb]

while Russians and from Russia are fleeing, it’s also interesting what category it is from

[Circle]

The brevity of the analysis allows you not to smudge with letters and highlight the main thing. Behind a couple of sentences, a large amount of work is felt.

[mackonya]

Freshwater shortage only in the central regions of Kazakhstan

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

you didn’t try water from the tap in Aktau?

[Lindon]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

you didn’t try water from the tap in Aktau?

Can you prove that water does not comply with SNIPs and GOSTs of the USSR?
I will tell you a little secret in the USSR it was not possible to provide everyone with water of Baikal quality, therefore all GOSTs are very, very overpriced.
Mineralization to 1000 is allowed, and in Aktau to 800. And by order of the Chief Sanvrach of the USSR, even before 1500 in some cases. In Almaty - from 40 on Tulebaev to 600 in Verkhnyaya Kamenka.
In central Kazakhstan, there is no water at all. Zhezkazgan appeared only due to the discovery of Academician Satpayev underground freshwater lake in the area. For reference, up to 65% of the territory of the desert KZ and semi-desert.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Lindon

Can you prove that water does not comply with SNIPs and GOSTs of the USSR?

Are you from the fire department for an hour? !!
in 2004 he was in Aktau, he trained staff and commissioned equipment, it was scary to wash under water, the color was soft brown
your podkol somehow not a topic and is not appropriate

[Humpty]

1. Rich natural resources
2. The remoteness from the sea routes really worries someone. Nazarbayev somehow could not restrain himself and noticed in his hearts how it would be good for a single state of Turks to spread from Altai to the White Sea. For some reason, I forgot the Sayan Mountains, the eastern Tien Shan, Kunlun, Taklamakan, etc. Maybe he doesn’t know that the Turks live here and there, but maybe he forgot.
3.Specialization aimed either at "Turan" (agitation for their especially Svidomo), or at the vehicle.
4. Water in Kazakhstan is full, but it is not distributed evenly and is often used extremely inefficiently. By the way, the climate is not bad at all, it just differs from the Mediterranean. \
5. No one is threatening Kazakhstan openly from outside. But then they themselves will go to Iraq to help the Americans a bit, then in Alma-Ata the Americans are going to breed any bacillus. That workers a little off the coils who came down on the street will shoot. There is one more feature, they like neighbors to fence them with barbed wire and to carry out blasting operations of unmeasured power near it near a large tectonic fault in the nine-zone zone.
6. I would like to know how the barbed wire and the destroyed bridges of rural importance on the border with Kyrgyzstan affected the amount of heroin delivered to Russia through Kazakhstan.

[saag]

Quote: Humpty

4. Water in Kazakhstan is full, but it is not distributed evenly and is often used extremely inefficiently

And also China takes water from the Black Irtysh, reducing the drain, so the water is not so rosy

[Rinat 1]

and not only from the Irtysh, already from Or problems are outlined ... and this will automatically lead to a deterioration of the environmental situation on Lake Balkhash

[Humpty]

Quote: Rinat 1

and not only from the Irtysh, already from Or problems are outlined ... and this will automatically lead to a deterioration of the environmental situation on Lake Balkhash

Everything is just like that . Fortunately, Ili is gaining water not only in China. This year we have rare low water. And in spite of the residents of Bishkek and its environs, a number of reservoirs owned by the company, which for a year in a row are poured into zero to Kazakhstan. And in the lower reaches of the Chu, water flows out of the fields, and reeds with saxaul are watered through canals dug in the sand without concrete and clay. Uzbekistan even concretes reservoirs. Water is not small in Kazakhstan, it is wiser to use it.

[Klim2011]

I’ll add 5 kopecks:
Weaknesses:
The banking sector of the country is controlled and dependent on Western capital.
Transfer of control over natural resources to foreign companies
Technological backwardness. all these points are relevant in one way or another for Russia.
To the author + definitely!

[Ascetic]

Quote: Klim2011

The banking sector of the country is controlled and dependent on Western capital.
Transfer of control over natural resources to foreign companies
Technological backwardness. all these points are relevant in one way or another for Russia.

You’ve got to the very point. Vladimir, these are KEY PROBLEMS not only of Kazakhstan but also of all the CIS countries including Russia ... This way we went thanks to Gorbachev from the time of the USSR, who did not hide that the main goal of perestroika was to destroy the existing system of economic relations and replace integrating it into the global system, or rather the so-called pyramid of the civilized world as peripheral commodity economies. Where our place is determined for us, for which the ruling elite receives its financial rent and becomes a handshake. In ideology and rhetoric, this meant that "we will live in Europe and the USA."
Everything else is particular that arises from this main thing ... Our countries have a peripheral model of economies, the essence of which is the lack of sovereign economic policy as a way of designing and managing the future.
of this state of peripheral need to find FINANCIAL SOVERITY.
As long as our economy is a peripheral economy and we cannot ensure financial sovereignty, we will not be able to fulfill the tasks of development.
Attempting to protect your market within the framework of the Customs Union is the right, but really insignificant, step towards true sovereignty.
The next step - the Eurasian Economic Union - also does not solve the problem of full economic sovereignty. Because today, Eurasian integration still follows the rules and principles of world trade - that is, ultimately, it still plays in favor of the global market, where Russia is a peripheral economy.
But these are steps in the right direction, although they in no way threaten the world's global capital. But the creation of the BRICS and its financial structures, the prerequisites for the transition to OILDUBLE as ONE OF the reserve world currencies are already causing a serious pain among the globalists ... It is no coincidence that the landmark interview of the "overseer" of world capital in Russia, Mr. Chubais, was published
Anatoly CHUBAIS: in a glass house you have to carefully throw stones
the essence of which is expressed in one phrase

Russia has managed to prove that the world is no longer unipolar but it will cost Russia a lot, and it has not yet paid the full price. This can be treated in different ways, but the scale of events is just that.

Chubais speaks of creating a multipolar world as a fait accompli. There is no turning back, now bargaining is underway and the configuration of this multipolar world is being determined.
But it threatens Russia with a DEAR PAYMENT.
And further from the threats, this herald of the world behind the scenes makes it clear under what conditions can Russia avoid a board at a high price. To be honest, I don’t know what this price is for us and how far they can go in their plans to "utilize" Russia.

[Ascetic]

So the condition is simple
Russia refuses to try to create an oil ruble (that is, refuses to fight for financial sovereignty), and in exchange for this, the West is merging Ukraine in one form or another, and Europe is lifting sanctions.
If we go for this deal, then in the short-term policy we will get some advantages, but in the long-term development perspective we will remain a peripheral economy.
As the saying goes, the devil often offers seductive conditions, but it is better to disagree with them. Work on the oil ruble must be continued despite all the difficulties and threats. And in this work, the more like-minded people we can include Kazakhstan with the wise and cunning NAN, the easier it will be to go against the NANOCHubais external and internal ... pun

[Ingvar 72]

Hello Stanislav!

Quote: Ascetic

Russia refuses to try to create an oil ruble (that is, refuses to fight for financial sovereignty), and in exchange for this, the West is merging Ukraine in one form or another, and Europe is lifting sanctions.

The idea is correct - the development of the situation in Ukraine will show who is who. But - if we assume that our government "hacked to death" spontaneously and seriously, and if the situation was modeled deliberately, and not by us? Personally, your opinion, without regard to the opinion of Starikov and Fursov?

[Ascetic]

Quote: Ingvar 72

The idea is correct - the development of the situation in Ukraine will show who is who. But - if we assume that our government "hacked to death" spontaneously and seriously, and if the situation was modeled deliberately, and not by us? Personally, your opinion, without regard to the opinion of Starikov and Fursov?

Good evening!
I will answer briefly ...

the situation is modeled intentionally, and not by us

precisely in order to

our government "hacked to death" spontaneously and seriously

It reminds Afghanistan 2.0 option when they really got in seriously and for a long time ... Now they have managed, although in my opinion it was possible to get by the local resources of the same Masud against the Mujahideen of the south and instead fought with those and others ..

[Talgat]

and after all for sure - we kind of discussed this swot with the group and looked at such obvious factors

Thanks for the important tip Klim!

[Andrey KZ]

Quote: Klim2011

The banking sector of the country is controlled and dependent on Western capital.

In general, a plus for your 5 cents. I’ll add for completeness, in Kazakhstan, a network of VTB and Sberbank branches is now actively developing.

[Cossack Ermak]

Developed infrastructure with
times of the USSR. Railway network. Power lines.

Well, this can be attributed to the pros and cons. The vast majority of roads and power lines were created back in the USSR. Huge repair and modernization is required. Roads are built mainly in the old trunk directions. Drive literally 10 km from the main highway and quiet horror will begin, where even patching was done even under Brezhnev.

Power lines are overloaded unrealistic. Enterprises, new homes are being built, and networks are not being updated. In our city, even in the center, it is difficult to find 220 volts, in the network, at best, 200-180 volts. In some areas, up to 100 volts drops during peak hours.

And from the pros. You can add low taxes, compared with the same Russia. And it is necessary to stop the development directions to drive raw materials for the hillock. You need to master high processing and add value.

A very serious problem is education. Very few specialists. I think those who work in the industrial sector will agree with me.

[Ayujak]

I agree about the roads. Roads are not quiet horror. This is a stone age! I drove from Barnaul to Astana via Semey (Semipalatinsk). Before Semey, everything else went, but after - KHAN. Shame and disgrace. People have nowhere to go to the toilet. Only behind a bush if. So find this bush still. The pace of construction of the new road is not clear. Everything is cool in the cities, and then the horror. So much money in the country. There are no mountains, only steppes. Build - I do not want. But no. First, all officials of all stripes will put in their pockets. The rest will be sent for repair. 5-10 percent maybe.

[romb]

With regard to roads, I partially agree and then with reservations. Almost the entire territory of Kazakhstan is ruled by a sharply continental climate. Temperature differences winter-summer are very noticeable. In Kazakhstan, it does not surprise anyone when in the same area in winter the temperature can drop to -35-40 - a constant blizzard and blizzard, and in the summer stay close enough to + 45 gr. in the shade at which asphalt begins to almost melt. In such conditions, the laying of the roadway is extremely difficult from a technological point of view and expensive financially. And if we add the human factor to this, then this creates very serious problems for motorists. Nevertheless, one cannot fail to admit that new roads are constantly being built in Kazakhstan and old ones are being repaired.

[costa_cs]

At the beginning of summer infa slipped that it was planned to repair all the major republican roads and make them paid, like the Astana-Borovoe highway, so that in the future these routes would provide for themselves and thus avoid budgetary pressure. Very common thought in my opinion.

[romb]

If our officials miraculously stopped stealing money that the state directs to support and develop the "road fund", even in this case, the funds would not be enough to make our roads the same as in Western Europe. For the state, the priority task should be a strategy for the development of its transport potential within the WE-WC. If you take advantage of the new prospects, you can improve the quality of roads throughout Kazakhstan.
You look, then officials will begin to think less about how to milk Kazakhstani car owners.

[arseke]

Friends, I want to share information about major road projects that are currently being implemented:
1) Corridor "Western Europe - Western China" (2800+ km) 2-4 lane roadways of cement-concrete / asphalt-concrete type, mainly category "A"
2) "Center-South", Astana-Temirtau-Karaganda-Balkhash-Kapchagai-Almaty, it seems like that. At the moment, work is underway on the Astana-Temirtau sections (4 lanes, cement concrete, category "1A", the width of the road in one direction is 11 m, all adjoining roads will be connected only through interchanges, recreation areas and maintenance), as well as Kapchagai-Almaty ( 4 lanes, cement concrete, I don't know the category).
3) "Center-East", Astana-Pavlodar-Semey-Ust-Kamenogorsk, work has begun, unfortunately I do not know where exactly. + construction of a 12 km bridge across the Irtysh has begun.
4) "Center-West", as far as I know it is still a project. Astana-Aktau road.

+ 2 new railways have recently been opened. http://tengrinews.kz/kazakhstan_news/nazarbaev-dal-start-rabote-dvuh-novyih-jele
znyih-dorog-260607 /

All of this together costs simply fabulous money and I believe that these are very powerful and large-scale projects for a country like KZ. They promise that all the regional centers of KZ will be interconnected by new roads (expanded and with an increased maximum speed, 140km / h) by 2020.
I apologize in advance for my syllable.

[Hleb]

a lot of problems in Kazakhstan ... it’s very difficult for many more people to live. especially in villages

[51064]

Talgat, you write that the future threat to Kazakhstan is the likelihood of a shortage of energy in the world. At the same time, you note that the strength of the economy is the presence of large reserves of energy and other mineral resources. Do you consider the risk of unleashing a war in Kazakhstan in the future subject to a global shortage of energy resources?

[Hleb]

I am not Talgat, I am a district police officer Berik)

[Talgat]

Yes, that's right - that’s exactly what was meant

Huge reserves of energy resources are a strong side (coal for hundreds of years, uranium for 60 - if breeders are used - for thousands of years - oil for dozens) - in conditions when the world is facing a grand crisis of the end of the oil economy and a possible decrease in population by billions during the compressed time

And at the same time - such a tidbit cannot but cause a desire to control it on the part of the "world government" - which, given the weakness of the Eurasian center of power (disintegration of the USSR into weak separate parts), poses a real threat to the population of Kazakhstan

again, sorry that the article gave a very thesis - this is from the presentation from the table the text

[cerbuk6155]

It should have been larger, a small and weak article.

[saag]

Energy resources belong to Kazakhstan by 20 percent

[Alexey P]

It all depends on who comes instead of Nursultan Nazarbayev. If a person comes greedy for power and money (hypocrites and flatterers work well in the European Union and the USA, this can be seen in Georgia, Ukraine, Moldova, etc.), then it will be like in Georgia and Ukraine. If a sensible person comes, as we all see Nazarbayev, then Russia and Kazakhstan will be good neighbors for long times. And as for the analysis of the Republic of Kazakhstan, there are very great resource and human opportunities. I myself was born and raised in the Dzhambul region of Kazakhstan and I know this not by hearsay!

[Ayujak]

You know, I was also born and Voros in the Dzhambul region. Kazakh SSR. The current situation is very depressing. People in villages and grasslands chopped trees along the roads for heating. They live poorly. Many enterprises are destroyed. The country has great potential. Like the emirates of all sorts. The population is small. There are many resources. If not for corruption.

[ed65b]

Quote: AYUJAK

You know, I was also born and Voros in the Dzhambul region. Kazakh SSR. The current situation is very depressing. People in villages and grasslands chopped trees along the roads for heating. They live poorly. Many enterprises are destroyed. The country has great potential. Like the emirates of all sorts. The population is small. There are many resources. If not for corruption.

In general, the Uzbeks have potential, as they said "the last Urus will go to Russia, we will live like in Kuwait," and the Arabs live worse than dogs. Clannish nepotism and corruption have devoured Uzbekistan. intolerance towards non-Uzbeks is the same. half of our Koreans now live in Kazakhstan and are happy with nothing.

[Aslan]

The Caspian region of the United States has been declared a zone of its interests, therefore, it’s definitely not worth anyone to relax, of course the United States is eyeing all countries that are playing a double game, they started from Ukraine ...
Of course, both Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan and even Tajikistan are interesting to the United States in terms of everything, starting stupidly from natural resources and the desire to bring anal democracy to controlling the logistics of China and further to Russia and Europe.

[ed65b]

Uzbekistan. Will be a problem after Karimov's death. Threats from pseudo-Muslim religious teachings. Well, and the so-called multi-vector, one to a multi-vector is now in Rostov - a country in the "n." It's time to moor to some bank completely and without turning.

[Aslan]

I agree about Uzbekistan.
extremists have a big grudge against Karimov, and after his death, when the troubles begin, and they will necessarily begin, I think the region may blaze.

[Wolka]

it seems that Kazakhstan (far from a poor country after the collapse of the USSR), having what it has, including established international relations, today is not able to analyze and develop a long-term concept for the development of its own country, how to form fundamental principles and sources of domestic development, so are the principles and sources of the country's development on the international scene ... in short, it’s enough to just consume the finished, you need to invest the available money in the construction of new and the development of various industries (industrialization of the country), including on the basis of the latest technologies, to develop transport network of cars and railway (circulatory system of the country), reducing the level of external commodity and energy dependence, the adoption of effective measures to reduce corruption, etc ...

[Semurg]

Quote: Volka

it seems that Kazakhstan (far from a poor country after the collapse of the USSR), having what it has, including established international relations, today is not able to analyze and develop a long-term concept for the development of its own country, how to form fundamental principles and sources of domestic development, so are the principles and sources of the country's development on the international scene ... in short, it’s enough to just consume the finished, you need to invest the available money in the construction of new and the development of various industries (industrialization of the country), including on the basis of the latest technologies, to develop transport network of cars and railway (circulatory system of the country), reducing the level of external commodity and energy dependence, the adoption of effective measures to reduce corruption, etc ...

This is you so camouflaged about the Russian Federation wrote? if so, I admire your Aesopian language, I really don’t understand. Is it really so bad with freedom of speech in the Russian Federation that you have to get out like this?

[Andrey_K]

As for the region of Central Asia (and Kazakhstan), I believe that it will be very beneficial for Russia to help increase their economies.
Another major market close by cannot be unprofitable.
This requires large investments in large projects:
1) Water supply (perhaps it is necessary to lay a water supply system from Siberia).
2) Dig a Black Sea-Caspian canal
3) Other.

But where to get the money from?
But there is the experience of Americans - to give cheap loans in rubles, and rubles for this business simply print.
Loans on the condition that they spend them only in Russia for specific purposes (and not for the purchase of foreign currency, the collapse of the ruble and the resale of foreign currency to make a profit).
With this condition, an increase in the money supply will not cause any inflation, but only increase the circulation of funds and allow financing large and profitable projects.

[andj61]

Quote: Andrey_K

With this condition, an increase in the money supply will not cause any inflation, but only increase the circulation of funds and allow financing large and profitable projects.

It makes no sense to print money with such conditions, well, if only within the limits of wages, and even then not all wages are cashed.
Many have long and unsuccessfully talked about such major infrastructure projects, but liberals in the Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance are dead.

[Valtin]

The SWOT analysis is not written correctly, there are no intersections, no levels 2 and 3, etc.

[Zymran]

Yes, strictly speaking there is nothing.

Strengths or advantages of Kazakhstan

Energy and other mineral resources. Developed infrastructure with
Soviet times. Railway network. Power lines. Explored and developed deposits. Neighborhood with friendly or allied states.

The last point is extremely doubtful.

Weaknesses or disadvantages

Remoteness from sea routes. The absence of a large consumer market. Unfavorable climate. The income stratification of the population.

Corruption, underdeveloped infrastructure, military weakness.

[Aydar]

Quote: AYUJAK

Colleague agree! The question is very acute. There are no real alternatives. Well, the one who could really hold on to power. Daughter of NAS or his relatives? They have no chance. The clans are already fighting. As in Uzbekistan. "Against this background, it is very good to stir up something" orange "- they think in the CIA.

in Kazakhstan, many representatives of the so-called "elite" are oriented towards the West and, first of all, the United States (they have real estate, business, children live and study), others are so-called. the opposition is also oriented towards the West, but in this case towards Europe (France, England, Germany, Switzerland, Austria. Another part of the equally influential "elite" is oriented towards the Gulf countries, since in many ways its influence is also dictated by religious motives and these countries - United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Lebanon. So, as you see with Russia, the Kazakh "elite" is connected by very little - as a result, after Nazarbayev's departure, the "elite" will try, willy-nilly, to realize, lobby the interests of those countries for which they e. "elite" oriented.

[Bombardier]

A request to comrades from Kazakhstan to help the author, or rather to enter into co-authorship with him (after all, the idea to draw attention to an ally is true) and give such information that is necessary for us. Many times I have already asked for information, which is called first-hand, of our Kazakh comrades. More information, communication, discussion - I think it will benefit both states, elementary, we will at least understand some statements or intentions of Nazarbayev. Yes, and the problem is shared with a friend, becoming only half the problem.
Yours faithfully,

[blackberry]

Quote: Bombardier

A request to comrades from Kazakhstan to help the author, or rather to enter into co-authorship with him (after all, the idea to draw attention to an ally is true) and give such information that is necessary for us. Many times I have already asked for information, which is called first-hand, of our Kazakh comrades. More information, communication, discussion - I think it will benefit both states, elementary, we will at least understand some statements or intentions of Nazarbayev. Yes, and the problem is shared with a friend, becoming only half the problem.
Yours faithfully,

all the information the Russian structures have, at any level of detail. Or did you have any unique questions? Sound it.

[Aydar]

Moreover, it is the modern Kazakhstani "elite" who is basically anti-Russian and sees integration as a threat to the safety of their capital. The common population mostly does not see an enemy or threat in Russia, although of course they understand that due to the decline in the quality of education and the difficulty in obtaining it, ordinary Kazakhs will not be competitive in the professional labor market, especially in professions and positions where knowledge of the Russian language is in demand - hence the indigenous youth "closes in" in itself, goes into radical Islamic movements. where its single community is formed. Therefore, the indigenous Kazakh youth placed in non-competitive conditions by the Kazakh "elite" will be the conductor of the ideas of the Kazakh "elite" acting on the direct orders of the West (the United States or Europe, depending on where it was "fed") and potential cannon fodder. This trend is already visible today , at the level of the growth of domestic nationalism or "national self-awareness" of ordinary Kazakhs from the hinterland and the fear of the "elites" before the Customs Union and the further deepening of integration processes - in fact, these are two sides of the same coin - the growing nationalism of the "lower classes" and the growing fears of the "elites".

[romb]

Aydar, you excuse me, but you froze something wrong. The initiators of the TS were the Kazakhstani elite. It was with its submission that this whole epic around economic integration began to unfold. Indeed, what can be blamed for our elite is that Kazakhstan's business was not ready to some extent for the changes in the market that occurred after the launch of the TS. And secondly, the Kazakhs do not even have such fears close. I will not write about urban Kazakhs, everything is clear here - we are for competition, the main thing is for others to withstand it. If you touch the Aul guys, then a certain part of them, having arrived in the city, manages for several years not only to tighten the Russian language, but also to learn in their direct specialty. You, probably, already noticed what now the shaft of those wishing to enter on technical specialties goes. However, even today - at seminars, trainings and various advanced training courses, the vast majority of students are Kazakhs. Unfortunately, in practice it just turns out that a separate part of the Russians, due to their reluctance to learn the state language and integrate into Kazakhstani society, are starting to get more pinched and feel not competitive.

[Aydar]

let's start in order
1. The initiator of the TS was exclusively Nazarbayev, this idea runs counter to the interests of the elite, whose business is not tied to Russia at all, therefore Nazarbayev does not trust the elite in many respects - his trouble is that there are very few people in his circle who can be trusted - hence his the establishment has no rotation, no new people. The elite in many ways sabotages his decisions, including on the TS, - she waits for an hour when Nazarbayev weakens.
2. Regarding the rest, in your writing there are no more questions that could be answered.

[romb]

Well, to be even more precise, the oil and gas sector represented by Nazarbayev. Do you seriously think that progress on the CPC, transportation of Kazakhstani carbon raw materials through Russia and Russian through Kazakhstan to the PRC appeared out of the blue. Or SO just hooked up in Gazprom?
Kazakhstan has long ceased to have that elite, which (unfortunately) can really oppose something to Nazarbayev.

[Aydar]

Apparently you are great, hence your maximalism in opinion and desire to think "globally", such as "oil and gas sector - Nazarbayev", however, as the ancients said, "the devil is in the details", and therefore I do not want to bother my hands and arrange an educational program for you number and according to Marxism about the emergence of elites, their penetration into power and corporate interests are indispensable from the following. Hope that Nazarbayev firmly holds the reins of government in his decrepit hands and will forever control everything and everyone - from a mini-refinery somewhere in Aktobe to a samruk. For separatism and elite confrontation in today's Kazakhstan, it is not at all necessary to be a public figure in full view of everyone and be, for example, the Chairman of the Board of Directors of the National Company.

[romb]

Apparently you are great, hence your maximalism in opinion and desire to think "globally", such as "oil and gas sector - Nazarbayev"

Well, this probably needs to be said not to me, but to some Chevroil or Agip, who worked on this issue at the dawn of independence of the Republic of Kazakhstan.
For the rest, a small lyrical digression. During my "young" life, I realized that life is not as simple as I would like, and how silly and naive at times it is to try to paint everything in white and black tones.

[saag]

Quote: romb

Kazakhstan has long ceased to have that elite, which (unfortunately) can really oppose something to Nazarbayev.

Musin, for example, yes, the current prime minister, there will be no open confrontation, everyone is waiting for the NAS to leave for another world

[romb]

This is what we are talking about. There are no fools. No one will enter the fight against the National Academy of Sciences.

[Aydar]

However, I hasten to disappoint my Russian colleagues with the myth of "the Eurasian Nazarbayev" who does not sleep and dreams of integration. For Nazarbayev TS himself, this is the lesser of evils, as an intelligent person he chose a model suitable only for his personal interests. It is no secret in Kazakhstan that Nazarbayev hoped to take a place next to Gorbachev, but the coup and the collapse of the USSR prevented this. Nazarbayev perfectly knows and understands the nomenklatura psychology of the former party workers of the USSR who have now come to power in the republics of the former USSR, therefore for him this is a political advantage - for the political elite of the West he is nobody, but simply a corrupt leader of a banana country, for the political elite of China he is also nobody, therefore the only one his path is precisely pedaling the theme of Eurasian integration, where he will be, if not the first, then the second, in parallel he peddles the theme also according to pan-Turkism, hope that if not in Eurasianism, then at least in pan-Turkism he will knock out the king.

[Bombardier]

Yes, judging by what you described - a very fertile ground for the United States and the Islamists (please do not confuse with traditional Islam). I didn’t understand one thing - why the level of education is falling and "the difficulties of getting it ..." - explain this phrase. What prevents you from getting an education? I didn't think that the Russian language would become some kind of obstacle for prof. activities - ??? Let's say German or English will be easier in prof. activities? At the state level - the exchange of personnel with subcontractors, well, etc. this should cement the RKAZ union. and RF.

[romb]

The most interesting thing is that the shoots of the Islamist current that exist in the Republic of Kazakhstan have North Caucasian roots. It is in the western regions of Kazakhstan, which are in fairly tight contact with the Russian Caucasus and the number of their adherents is growing. That is, Afghanistan and BV are far from the first places in this thankless task.

[Aydar]

The sphere of education today, perhaps the most commercialized and corrupt, is the devaluation of education and the sale of diplomas. Academic degrees are bought as well as sold. Hence, there is a kind of "property qualification" who has money, even tomorrow will be a doctor of "any sciences", and in universities knowledge is "acquired" for money. It is natural that it is sometimes difficult and sometimes impossible for people from the aul to pay for their education. English and German have nothing to do with this problem, however, as has been the custom since the Soviet past, all the same, carriers of capital, fundamental knowledge are still transferring this knowledge to students in Russian, specialists and teachers with real, real knowledge and not with purchased diplomas, which could transfer this knowledge in the Kazakh language - very few, or rather, they practically do not exist. Therefore, Kazakh "science" with purchased diplomas mainly gives rise to "geniuses" and "British scientists" in the field of sociological sciences - jurisprudence, sociology, history, journalism.

[Bombardier]

Thanks for the clarifications. There is a lot to ask you, but time does not allow. maybe a little later ...

[romb]

Well, about selling diplomas, you won’t surprise anyone. This phenomenon exists in almost all CIS countries. We did not invent this ugly phenomenon. Although, indeed, they are not proud of such facts.
As regards the impossibility to pay for tuition, there are grants for this, which allow capable young children to undergo training in the specialty of interest. My relative, completely free of charge (at the expense of the state), graduated with excellent education in the technical specialty in the PRC, and is currently undergoing a master's program in Germany. And we have a lot of such guys. I agree that in our country there is much that the normal person obviously does not like. And at the same time, it’s stupid to look all the time for only one flaw.

[Alibekulu]

Quote: Aydar

due to the decline in the quality of education and difficulties in obtaining it among ordinary Kazakhs

I agree with the decline in the quality of education, although there is ambiguous. As for the difficulty in obtaining education, I strongly disagree ..
Now entering a university for free tuition is very easy .. Let's even say, ugly easy ..
I have a cousin with 52 points received a grant at the Pedagogical Institute .
Moreover, the threshold score of 50 points, this is the boundary of elementary school knowledge. For me, a minimum of 60 points is a threshold for studying at a university, and even that is not enough. And the scored 50 points should only give the opportunity to study for money.
With secondary / special education, in general, practically everyone who submits documents is taken. Moreover, colleges send propaganda brigades to villages in order to lure graduates of past schools, to somehow collect a set of students. In this case, it is extremely difficult to talk about quality ..

[Lindon]

Quote: Humpty

[We have rare water shortages this year. And in spite of the residents of Bishkek and its environs, a number of reservoirs owned by the company, which for a year in a row are poured into zero to Kazakhstan. And in the lower reaches of the Chu, water flows out of the fields, and reeds with saxaul are watered through canals dug in the sand without concrete and clay. Uzbekistan even concretes reservoirs. Water is not small in Kazakhstan, it is wiser to use it.

You know that on Dizil this has already been discussed. Kazakhstan maintains reservoirs with its own account including and Kirovskoye - under an interstate agreement, and water receives respectively 20 / 80. Bishkek just does not give a drop. Even 500 billion sq. Hours is borrowed from KZ. No charity - you have to pay for everything.
And about the fact that the channel was blocked, that it was necessary to build around the neighbors - well, it doesn’t work out in a civilized manner to solve issues with Bishkek.

[Lindon]

Vasilenko, I'm glad that you feed yourself.
Why do not you give other people's money to sleep?
You know Nazarbayev from the peasants, he became a steelworker and, for his labor successes, he was nominated by the working class as party organizer (as Brezhnev is direct). At party work, he was in charge of all sectors in turn until he reached the head of SovMin.
The USSR did not become Nazarbayev turned out to be the head of state - because he was trained and prepared by the CPSU school.
Privatization, or rather privatization, was opaque both in the KZ and in the Russian Federation.
They threw people here and there. There is nothing to be proud of and not to anyone.
You have a different biography. From a family of engineers in the capital of the Kazakh SSR, now milk goats.
The conclusion is envy of more successful individuals.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Lindon

Vasilenko, I'm glad that you feed yourself.
not noticeable
Why do not you give other people's money to sleep?

that is, even forbidden to discuss theft in the upper echelons of power, including the head of the Republic of Kazakhstan?

Quote: Lindon

Privatization, or rather privatization, was opaque both in the KZ and in the Russian Federation.

Sorry, but for example the television companies TAN, Khabar, Hotel Hyatt in Almaty, Logicom firm, etc. well, they have nothing to do with privatization

Quote: Lindon

Vasilenko, I'm glad that you feed yourself.
Why do not you give other people's money to sleep?
You know Nazarbayev from the peasants, he became a steelworker and, for his labor successes, he was nominated by the working class as party organizer (as Brezhnev is direct). At party work, he was in charge of all sectors in turn until he reached the head of SovMin.
The USSR did not become Nazarbayev turned out to be the head of state - because he was trained and prepared by the CPSU school.
Privatization, or rather privatization, was opaque both in the KZ and in the Russian Federation.
They threw people here and there. There is nothing to be proud of and not to anyone.
You have a different biography. From a family of engineers in the capital of the Kazakh SSR, now milk goats.
The conclusion is envy of more successful individuals.

the conclusion is that you are an ordinary sissy with complexes, where did you get the idea that I worsened my situation, you live in a city skovresnik and don’t know where to park the car, and I’m in a 250 square meter house on three levels on 7 hectares of land, plus another 15 separately , I work for myself, and you’re all about some kind of deterioration, you measure 50 years of the last century, so in vain, I don’t have any better quality than in Alma-Ata, there is hot water, sewage, and steam at home.
the only difference is that you work in the office and I, as you put it in the "barn" heating, but note in yours, not in someone else's.

[Aydar]

Sorry, but for example, TV companies TAN, Khabar, Hotel Hayat in Almaty, company Logic, etc. well, they have nothing to do with privatization
Quote: Lindon

Yes, from this list you can only agree with Logicom :))))

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

and Hayat, by the way, when Dariga sat in Khabar ?!
As a matter of fact, Tan is also broadcasting not from the opera of privatization, but also to Khoz, etc.
and the Logic generally just squeezed out more precisely into the company they sent their representatives
there are many such examples

[Aydar]

Quote: romb

Well, about selling diplomas, you won’t surprise anyone. This phenomenon exists in almost all CIS countries. We did not invent this ugly phenomenon. Although, indeed, they are not proud of such facts.
As regards the impossibility to pay for tuition, there are grants for this, which allow capable young children to undergo training in the specialty of interest. My relative, completely free of charge (at the expense of the state), graduated with excellent education in the technical specialty in the PRC, and is currently undergoing a master's program in Germany. And we have a lot of such guys. I agree that in our country there is much that the normal person obviously does not like. And at the same time, it’s stupid to look all the time for only one flaw.

In short, blabala and confusion of "public sheep" with their own. In principle, this is not about that, but oh well, I'm not a political observer and I don't want to dispute your relative's achievements, in general, I'm not talking about that at all.

[romb]

You are nervous! Do not. Do not be offended, but you are too naive. As I indicated above, a person who tries to think in children's "black and white" categories automatically drives himself into a corner.

[Glavspez]

Nazarbayev is an ordinary sultan who will never end up in the vastness of Central Asia. Asia is archaic. With these "friends" it should be soft, but concrete. We will have to live with them.

[Aydar]

Quote: romb

You are nervous! Do not. Do not be offended, but you are too naive. As I indicated above, a person who tries to think in children's "black and white" categories automatically drives himself into a corner.

I'm not nervous, I just do not quite understand the meaning of what you write, well, you like Kazakhstan, so why should I prove it? People have different ideas about what is good and what is bad. Why write nonsense about your relative or about how many Kazakhs attend business trainings and how willingly they learn English or other languages? After all, it’s not about that, but about more global and deep-seated processes that have already been launched for a long time and are going on.

[romb]

It's not that I like Kazakhstan or not. Although, I will not hide, I like it! This is somewhat different. You were the first to start writing, the main message of which was that everything in the country was disgusting and lousy. I, the only one, pointed out that your vision clearly cannot claim the role of truth in the last resort. Especially when this point of view is too biased and does not reflect the fullness of the picture. And you, instead of acknowledging the fact of overwhelming cynicism in some way, have taken and eaten up.

[Semurg]

in general, summing up the intermediate results we can say that Kazakhstan is more likely alive than dead . Those who want can see the good and the positive will find it, those who want to see the negative and will find the bad, and this is just like in any other country. Everything is determined by his personal attitude to Kazakhstan and the people living here.

[Aydar]

Quote: Glavspez

Nazarbayev is an ordinary sultan who will never end up in the vastness of Central Asia. Asia is archaic. With these "friends" it should be soft, but concrete. We will have to live with them.

As for archaism, recently Zhirinovsky suggested that the tsar be returned, and you don’t even have to talk about the yellow-white-black flag, so I think that most likely you will be subjects of tsar Vladimir earlier.

[Aydar]

Quote: romb

It's not that I like Kazakhstan or not. Although, I will not hide, I like it! This is somewhat different. You were the first to start writing, the main message of which was that everything in the country was disgusting and lousy. I, the only one, pointed out that your vision clearly cannot claim the role of truth in the last resort. Especially when this point of view is too biased and does not reflect the fullness of the picture. And you, instead of acknowledging the fact of overwhelming cynicism in some way, have taken and eaten up.

You are either a girl or a young naive student, however, both of them are distinguished by a rather immature attitude towards reality, therefore, once again I personally indicate my position for you:
1. You were the first to start writing, the main message of which was that everything in the country was disgusting and lousy — I have identified the problem points that exist — the opinion that they are nasty and lousy is your own opinion. I wrote that in Kazakhstan there is a struggle of elites, against the background of a degrading population and those qualities that characterize the social state, if this is not so, bring arguments that aren’t your relatives who are willing to attend business trainings.
2. I, the only one, pointed out that your vision clearly cannot claim the role of truth in the last resort. - and I do not pretend to this role and did not pretend and do not want to pretend. Whether you agree with my opinion or not, this is your personal business and it is not interesting for me to know, even if you agree with me. I do not argue, but express my opinion and these are two different things, however people like you always try to put an equal sign between them. Learn to distinguish between the subject of a dispute in which there is a subject of proof and just an expression of personal opinion.
3. As regards prejudice, see above.
4. About cynicism - where did you see it?

[romb]

I will not comment on the first part of your emotional opus. With regard to the "content" part I will write a little.
You did not indicate the "problem points", but simply wrote your negative and therefore extremely subjective attitude to the topic under consideration. At the same time, this was done, purely in isolation from the existing facts - some speculation and horror stories. I just pointed out specific facts - the guys from the aul are increasingly beginning to gravitate towards the exact sciences. The role of social outsiders no longer suits them. The younger generation begins to strive for real knowledge and not for purchased regalia. And as a fact, I wrote about my relative. So, for reference: he studied and graduated from the Kazakh school. He is fluent in several foreign languages. And from the fact that he did not study in a Russian-language school, his knowledge from this did not diminish at all. Even more - he completed his studies with honors in the PRC. And there are dozens of such stories in my family. You hinted that Kazakhs are actually starting to degrade due to the inability to get an education in Russian. At the same time, somehow, either through ignorance or forgotten that the overwhelming majority of the winners and participants of international Olympiads in mathematics and physics are students of Kazakh schools and specialized colleges, for example, KTL. Nifiga itself degradation.
Your cynicism is manifested though in the fact that you are beginning to ignore the facts in the mean way, operating with absolutely unsubstantiated speculation. For example, one thing only:

Moreover, it is the modern Kazakhstani "elite" who is basically anti-Russian and sees integration as a threat to the safety of their capital. The common population mostly does not see an enemy or threat in Russia

talks about how unfamiliar you are with the true state of affairs.

[Aydar]

As I already wrote to you I am not interested in your jingoistic patriotic chants on the theme "life has become better life has become more fun", so you can not waste your ardor, I am not going to argue. If you are doing well, well, thank God, let it be even better. And your categorical nature, with which you claim that I am "not familiar with the state of affairs," although I live, unlike you, it seems in Kazakhstan - it gives you the person with whom any dialogue is useless and stupid.

[romb]

In short, you have to ask you more specifically.
Honestly, you manage to throw a fair amount of der.ma, and at the same time bothering to refer to any more or less well-known fact.
For example, what (to hell) business elite was against integration processes? The one that increased the supply of primary aluminum to Russia? Or maybe one of those who began to dispatch large volumes of oil products to Russian refineries with subsequent sale on the territory of the Russian Federation. Or maybe those who are ramping up supplies of meat products to Russia to the detriment of the domestic market of the Republic of Kazakhstan, etc. etc.? You tell me specifically - so which of the elite was really against it. Names, surnames (attendance and passwords optional)?
Oh yes, and also, we have an interesting government, which by all means tried to recreate and restore the former economic ties that suffered as a result of the collapse of the USSR. Looks like the State Department whispered in his ear, and even constantly pushed him with one well-known insidious goal?
In addition, it is interesting and what is the difference:

"Kazakh" elite "acting on the direct orders of the West (the United States or Europe, depending on where it was" fed ")

- from fed by the same Russia? Of course, I understand that you probably would very much like the Kazakhstani elite to act purely in the interests of Russia - like a kind of mongrel?
It’s interesting, and how much has the attitude of considerable Kazakhs towards Russia improved against the background of a sharp deterioration in their material well-being as a result of a rise in the cost of the food basket?

[Hleb]

I bought another pack of tea for work today.
Lipton, Ahmad ... I don’t know, I like that. Besides, I supported the upa on the market, not the fat belly of the store owner

[Aydar]

just fat-bellied and supported, "up on the market" is just a statistician with a small percentage of the added value.

[Hleb]

yes really? she’s not a pensioner but an statistician) it’s normal! of course you can look at it that way, but here’s the moral of a specific person. For example, I specially buy vegetables and at least the same tea from grannies. And it’s not even that tomatoes and dill from the garden is much better, although it is important, but even simply because there was an increase in retirement. let it be better that it has its own small percentage than the same statistician who owns a stall or a store.
if you argue in a similar spirit, then I myself need to have a tea plantation, drink it? And otherwise I will support anyone for any

[Aydar]

Quote: Alibekulu

Quote: Aydar

due to the decline in the quality of education and difficulties in obtaining it among ordinary Kazakhs

I agree with the decline in the quality of education, although there is ambiguous. As for the difficulty in obtaining education, I strongly disagree ..
Now entering a university for free tuition is very easy .. Let's even say, ugly easy ..
I have a cousin with 52 points received a grant at the Pedagogical Institute .
Moreover, the threshold score of 50 points, this is the boundary of elementary school knowledge. For me, a minimum of 60 points is a threshold for studying at a university, and even that is not enough. And the scored 50 points should only give the opportunity to study for money.
With secondary / special education, in general, practically everyone who submits documents is taken. Moreover, colleges send propaganda brigades to villages in order to lure graduates of past schools, to somehow collect a set of students. In this case, it is extremely difficult to talk about quality ..

I would not be proud of this, this is exactly what speaks in favor of my version. Personally, by the accessibility of education I mean just not the "ease of admission" to the university for a bribe or for paid education, and by education I do not mean a blue piece of paper with the inscription diploma. Education is a complex of qualities, from professional to cultural and ethical. And when I mean “access to education,” I mean equal, transparent access to quality education according to the Soviet model, which has long been absent in Kazakhstan.

[Bombardier]

For some reason, I believe you more (and plus, by the way), is it vital ...

[Semurg]

Quote: Bombardier

For some reason, I believe you more (and plus, by the way), is it vital ...

maybe because you just wanted to read it?

[AstanaKZ]

By the way, in RK it is proposed to make tuition in technical colleges free!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: AstanaKZ

studying in technical colleges!

and what is a technical college ?!
grabbed overseas words and their essence without knowing where.
What is a vocational school, university, college? !!!!

[AstanaKZ]

Sweet Dream of the State Department is the Orange Revolution in Kazakhstan! Here I am walking with children in the evening city, children are around, laughter, people are also walking and thinking: but somewhere, where there was also peace recently and families with children were walking, shells and stench from uncleaned corpses are now bursting! And I pray to Allah for peace on the Kazakh land, you just need to respect and value each other regardless of the nations! And also, listen to snobs like "Vasilenko and Co" less!

[Semurg]

Quote: AstanaKZ

Sweet Dream of the State Department is the Orange Revolution in Kazakhstan! Here I am walking with children in the evening city, children are around, laughter, people are also walking and thinking: but somewhere, where there was also peace recently and families with children were walking, shells and stench from uncleaned corpses are now bursting! And I pray to Allah for peace on the Kazakh land, you just need to respect and value each other regardless of the nations! And also, listen to snobs like "Vasilenko and Co" less!

And why exactly the state department? in the sense of a catastrophe in the Republic of Kazakhstan, in my opinion, from a neighboring country one can hear shouts about the end of the Republic of Kazakhstan both from experts and ordinary users.

[Zymran]

Well, the State Department is supposed to. He is angry.

[Talgat]

I propose to consider the following reason "why from the State Department"
I apologize again for the brevity and thesis - but still
In geopolitics, the sea and the land are always opponents: the sea is now a FRS (aka the State Department - it is a world government, etc.), in fact, it has established complete control over the world and created the current world order.
The land (Heartland) is Eurasia - (once the Huns - then their grandchildren the Kipchaks - the steppes of the Turks - then Russia and the USSR) are completely collapsed and in fact the fragments either try to split up (the Russian Federation) or prevent them from connecting
Kazakhstan is clearly not a "sea" but in fact belongs to the central root part of the heartland - and clearly shows dangerous tendencies of integration with its severed parts

[Semurg]

Argyns are now how excited and how to unsubscribe to the account of the Kipchaks of the Huns' grandchildren .

[IS-80]

Quote: Semurg

Argyns are now how excited and how to unsubscribe to the account of the Kipchaks of the Huns' grandchildren

And what do Comrades Argyns themselves think about this?

[costa_cs]

Quote: IS-80

And what do Comrades Argyns themselves think about this?

Comrades Argyns believe that Argyns were, are and will be !
That's something like

[IS-80]

Quote: kosta_cs

Comrades Argyns believe that Argyns were, are and will be!
That's something like

This is certainly wonderful, but this is not the answer to the question.

[costa_cs]

Well, if you need a detailed answer, then get ready to listen)))
Kazakhs as a nation are a composite hodgepodge of a bunch of tribes who came and lived in Kazakhstan at different times. For example, the Argyns are considered to be the descendants of the Huns, the result of the "Great Nations Migration" during the time of one very restless figure known as the "Scourge of God". They came to the territory of Kazakhstan in the 9th century. (Argyn taipasy (tribe, clan Argyn) is not only among the Kazakhs, but also among the Kyrgyz, Crimean Tatars, Bashkirs, Khakass, and even among the Dzungars there was a clan of Argyns). Kypchaks (Russian Polovtsy, Western - Kumans) - a fragment of the Kimak state, which came in the 9-10th centuries and significantly strengthened in the 11-12th centuries, formed the huge state of Desht-i-Kipchak, which was subsequently defeated by the Mongols in the 13th century ( we all remember the grandfather of Genghis Khan ) After 15c. Kipchaks became part of the Tatars, Kazakhs, Bashkirs, Karachais, Kumyks, Hungarians and other peoples. Accordingly, the Kypchaks are in no way "grandchildren of the Huns", as indicated by Semurg. Moreover, until the 15th century, when the rebellious sultans Zhanibek and Kerey migrated with all the tribes they controlled from the then Ozbek Khan Abulkhair and proclaimed themselves Kazakhs and formed the Kazakh Khanate, the Argyns and Kypchaks were the main competitors for influence on the Khan. The reason for the migration was the kipchak Koblandy-batyr’s murder of Argyn Akzhol-batyr. As a result, the bulk of the migrants were Argyns and Kereis, Kipchaks separated from the Ozbeks and joined the Kazakhs a little later.
Today it’s all the legends of antiquity and cultural heritage, which has very little effect on the practical side of life.
I hope I answered your question.

[IS-80]

Quote: kosta_cs

I hope I answered your question.

Yes thank you.

[Semurg]

What was not trolled? Are you really interested in our Kazakh graters? In his entire life, the only Russian (or rather, Ukrainian) who was interested in this was my classmate Pavel, when I told him about childbirth-subgenus who leads the genealogy from, he translated the names of the genera (and we were then 13-14 years old) after this story F .Cooper lost a lot that did not know Kazakhs. After that, he fell ill with "Kazakhism" even tried to write his "shezhire-pedigree" and now he calls himself "Red Banner Konyrat", and the Red Banner so that he would not be confused with other Konyrat .

[Talgat]

They say - "Argyn is the elder brother of the Kipchak" and the Kipchaks themselves :)

[IS-80]

Quote: Semurg

And why exactly the state department? in the sense of a catastrophe in the Republic of Kazakhstan, in my opinion, from a neighboring country one can hear shouts about the end of the Republic of Kazakhstan both from experts and ordinary users.

Sorry for the naive question. From Kyrgyzstan?

[Semurg]

Hmm, if you read the local "Shaltai", then sometimes this idea sounds from Kyrgyzstan, but mainly because of the northern border

[Aydar]

Quote: AstanaKZ

Sweet Dream of the State Department is the Orange Revolution in Kazakhstan! Here I am walking with children in the evening city, children are around, laughter, people are also walking and thinking: but somewhere, where there was also peace recently and families with children were walking, shells and stench from uncleaned corpses are now bursting! And I pray to Allah for peace on the Kazakh land, you just need to respect and value each other regardless of the nations! And also, listen to snobs like "Vasilenko and Co" less!

While the National Academy of Sciences is sitting, you can not be afraid of "orange revolutions" - it gives everybody trouble-free and well, and we live on that.
But after it, let there be a dilemma, where the new successor will turn, either to face Russia, back to the West, or to face China, back to Russia and the West. Here, there will be expanse for any revolutions, from orange to purple. This is the mistake of the National Academy of Sciences - the deadlock of multi-vector is called, I wanted to outwit everyone and as a result I lost more than I gained.

[Aydar]

Quote: AstanaKZ

By the way, in RK it is proposed to make tuition in technical colleges free!

In Kazakhstan, a lot of things are promised, but mostly what is not promised is being implemented. I don’t believe that someday there would be free education. Education in Kazakhstan is a frantic business that has long been divided in hierarchy from the very top to the dean of the faculty. Turnovers in some sort of high school or college average but have passed certification (often for a divorce), spin on a par with some major shopping center.

[AstanaKZ]

Of course, there are still many problems! Aydar, what is your attitude to the latest statement 001 on languages ​​(on the Nur KZ portal)?

[Semurg]

Quote: AstanaKZ

Of course, there are still many problems! Aydar, what is your attitude to the latest statement 001 on languages ​​(on the Nur KZ portal)?

sucks, but what can you do after all - Highlander .

[AstanaKZ]

Making such statements is a sign of weakness! The natspat are spitting, the Russians are touching, and the moderate and adequate majority is surprised: like 5 years ago, he said the opposite!

[Semurg]

Quote: AstanaKZ

Making such statements is a sign of weakness! The natspat are spitting, the Russians are touching, and the moderate and adequate majority is surprised: like 5 years ago, he said the opposite!

to hesitate along with the general line is a great skill that preserves fasting and health

[Zymran]

And what did he say about languages?

[IS-80]

Quote: Zymran

And what did he say about languages?

Judging by the indignation, AstanaKZ makes Kazakh patriots speak Russian that they hate.

[costa_cs]

Somewhere here a link to this news was already given, but I think it will not be superfluous to repeat http://news.nur.kz/328128.html

[Zymran]

Well, personally, his opinion seems quite logical to me. But about the second Ukraine, it’s somehow not entirely clear. Type hints that some of us, too, will arrange a second Luganda?

[IS-80]

Quote: Zymran

Type hints that some of us, too, will arrange a second Luganda?

A subtle hint from the Kazakh-Russophobe?

[Zymran]

And what do you think?

[IS-80]

Quote: Zymran

And what do you think?

I think that it’s not good if this is so.

[Alibekulu]

Quote: AstanaKZ

Of course, there are still many problems! Aydar, what is your attitude to the latest statement 001 on languages ​​(on the Nur KZ portal)?

I’m more interested in the statement that they will begin to identify the bipedal, citizens of the Republic of Kazakhstan with dual citizenship. In 90%, this is citizenship of the Russian Federation, I think. Already found in parliament.

Quote: Aydar

I personally understand the accessibility of education as just not the "ease of admission" to a university for a bribe or for paid education

Aidar girl threw you or someone stepped on a tail ?!
Don't turn into "Vasilenko". Why bribe when now you can safely, thanks to your knowledge, get a grant and study at a university without paying tuition ..
Now is the time to study for free ..
Again, it all depends on the student, if he is determined to be a professional in his field, then what could hinder him ..
I studied and practically didn’t give anything to anyone. And such a thought did not arise - why should I pay if I know ..
And in the near and far abroad it is real to study for free. There are many interstate agreements on which budget places are allocated.
Even Tajikistan last year allocated 77 grants for citizens of Kazakhstan.
Now in Kostanay, quite a lot of school graduates are studying in the Czech Republic, China, not to mention the Russian Federation.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Alibekulu

In 90%, this is citizenship of the Russian Federation, I think. Already found in parliament.

Well, actually, in order to obtain Russian citizenship, a citizen of the Republic of Kazakhstan must provide a notarized renunciation of citizenship of the Republic of Kazakhstan

Quote: Alibekulu

I studied and practically, did not give anything to anyone

that is, they still paid

[Alibekulu]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Well, actually, in order to obtain Russian citizenship, a citizen of the Republic of Kazakhstan must provide a notarized renunciation of citizenship of the Republic of Kazakhstan

"The severity of Russian laws is mitigated by the non-binding nature of their implementation."

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

that is, they still paid

But yes
Vladimir Putin: A real man should always try, and a real girl should resist. ..
I am not reflecting too much on this. If necessary, then it is necessary ..
I remember the group threw chocolate on the teacher ..

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Alibekulu

The strictness of Russian laws is mitigated by the non-enforcement of their implementation.

Well, the words are beautiful, but in reality by themselves, I know I had to pass the passport unambiguously, although the certificate hovered

[Semurg]

and if lost suddenly? but in general, probably with a certificate, you can be elected to the deputies there do not require a passport.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Well, I didn’t lose it, I just got it with permits to leave, after a month of torture, I sent everyone and left without taking off the register and, accordingly, without handing over the certificate

[blackberry]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: Alibekulu

In 90%, this is citizenship of the Russian Federation, I think. Already found in parliament.

Well, actually, in order to obtain Russian citizenship, a citizen of the Republic of Kazakhstan must provide a notarized renunciation of citizenship of the Republic of Kazakhstan

Yes, this is not a swing for those who have Russian citizenship. These are just simple reinsurance. And Russian citizenship is unnecessary to corrupt officials, you can’t hide the stolen goods there - taxes are unbearable, and extradition works. This call is for holders of offshore passports, American, Czech, English. Well, you know who we are talking about.

[Semurg]

education itself is free of charge if enrolled in a grant and pay a scholarship, sometimes they give a hostel and partially travel. All other expenses at my own expense. I look at our grant score in the south much higher from 80 and higher. Who in the course of China seems to be offering grants at their universities?

[Alibekulu]

Quote: Semurg

I look at our grant score in the south much higher from 80 and higher.

"Shymkent option" ?!

Quote: Semurg

I look at our grant score in the south much higher from 80 and higher.

In addition to the nationwide competition, targeted budget places are allocated for specific universities. Often the passing scores there are noticeably lower than in the country as a whole. Therefore, at present there are many "Texas guys" in the Kostanay Pedagogical Institute. I was a couple of years ago at the alma mater, and a rumor started to circulate that Kazakh was spoken in the corridors. There are a couple of Russian guys in the reading room for 30 people. 5 years before that it was 50/50 ..

Quote: Semurg

Who in the course of China seems to be offering grants at their universities?

The deadlines have passed - until April 10, 2014. Agitate next year.

Ministry of Education and Science Announces Competition for training in higher educational institutions of China PROGRAM Bachelor, Master, as well as to take annual LANGUAGE TRAINING IN THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SCIENCE OF THE REPUBLIC OF KAZAKHSTAN AND THE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION OF CHINA ON COOPERATION IN THE FIELD OF EDUCATION ( 58 PEOPLE), AND ALSO WITHIN THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENTS OF THE SCO MEMBER STATES ON COOPERATION IN THE EDUCATION AREA (3 PEOPLE).
http://www.edu.gov.kz/ru/konkurs-na-obuchenie-v-vysshih-uchebnyh-zavedeniya-knr

Now there are many different programs that allow you to study for free abroad. The main thing is real knowledge and possession of foreign languages.

[Semurg]

Representatives from northern universities sat in our technological university and campaigned to study with them, who didn’t pass 80 points and were enrolled to you. Thank you enlightened in China.

[Aydar]

I also read this statement about the fact that in the event of "an inflection, a Ukrainian scenario is possible." Personally, my opinion is as follows (in principle, it was unchanged, and this statement only strengthened it even more) - the national issue, including the language one in Kazakhstan is used as a political means, there is no real language problem or there is no national one, these issues are just artificial bloated and provoked by the current regime. In order to confirm this, it is enough to compare the statements of the Leader of the Nation five years ago and the current ones. In addition, it is useful to keep the population in good shape - they say, look, if not me, then you fools will start to cut each other in Ukraine, first by language and then by nationality. Also, behind the scenes, at the level of jokes-jokes, stratification is maintained within the Kazakhs themselves, with the division first into shala-Kazakhs and Nagyz-Kazakhs and then on the basis of tribalism. All this is applied in a complex according to the ancient principle of "divide and conquer" and is used as an indirect means of maintaining the current status quo.

[Zymran]

Nazarbayev University is still with training in English. Eh, I’d be born a little later, I would definitely go to a medical school at this university.

[Semurg]

Yes, 25 years ago there was a stinky river there, and last year I went and watched there. Nazarbayev. The university is handsome, I say to my granddaughter that I would like to study there, but the Chinese have brought her down now. She dreams about studying in China.

[Zymran]

China also has an excellent education.

[Dastan]

Good day!
wanted to add my 5 cents in SWOT:
Strengths:
strong presidential power
population loyalty to presidential power
general stability (politics, society, faiths,)
low level of terrorist threats at the moment (although the camps are crowded with beards and they live there perfectly)
some kind, but the pace of economic development (I work in a Russian company, it is possible to compare the development trends of the markets of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Kazakhstan).
the emergence of the middle class in large cities
-Capabilities:
it is possible to use authoritarianism for modernization (I hope it is still possible) "raising an Asian tiger, or a leopard, as you like)
the ability to use the raw materials sector as a locomotive for the economy (oil, gas, uranium, etc.)
the ability to grow a middle class based on current stability.
the opportunity to grow a receiver for NAS and to develop a mechanism for a painless transfer of power in exchange for guarantees to the Family.
- weaknesses
all power is locked on one person
high level of corruption, come to power "cut the dough" and feel like a temporary worker.
the absence of "social elevators" to the elite, the irremovability of the elite.
domination of "submarine wars" over public policy. those. clan wars on the sidelines
- threats
increased risks in case of unexpected departure of ANAS
risk of third-country intervention in the event of a political crisis
the rise of extermist Islamism
growth of social inequality
increased ethnic discrimination
PS I suggest the author of the article to take into account all the comments and make SWOT 2.0

[Aydar]

Quote: Zymran

China also has an excellent education.

You, I look a real patriot of my country.

[AstanaKZ]

He speaks ALSO!