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A source in the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine: The army lost half of the artillery, and the Air Force no longer

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21 August appeared in some media material about the huge losses of the Ukrainian security forces over the past three weeks, based on information from an unnamed source in the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, reports "Russian Spring".

A source in the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine: The army lost half of the artillery, and the Air Force no longer


In particular, it is noted that the “change in tactics” that Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko spoke about at the August 18 meeting was needed because of the loss of most of the strike weapons.

According to the source, “the offensive of our troops near Donetsk and Lugansk actually stopped,” and the plan, based on massive shelling by long-range artillery, which involved clearing bridgeheads to capture the suburbs, “can be said to have failed.”

“Over the past three weeks, separatists have knocked out more than half of the existing trunking and rocket artillery of our group. More specifically, since the beginning of the operation, more than 200 guns and Grad and Hurricane jet systems have been lost. But the worst thing is that about a third of them fell into the hands of the separatists, ”the source said.

According to him, more than 500 units of various armored vehicles were also lost. The Ukrainian military has to “remove third and fourth category equipment from storage in warehouses,” which has been there for 30-40 years.

“Her condition, to put it mildly, is unsatisfactory: riflescopes stolen, engines start at best one out of three or four, wires are half rotten ... Our companies, of course, help as much as they can, but they are not omnipotent, Parts must be ordered in Russia”, - stressed the source.

However, the worst situation is observed in the Air Force of Ukraine.

“She was a bit able to fly with us. And now, after the loss during the ATO of almost everything that flew - 32 airplanes and helicopters, we can say that the Ukrainian Air Force is no more. There are neither funds for its restoration, nor specialists who would do it, and now there is nowhere to get spare parts for obvious reasons. Therefore, without normal fire support, the troops rose. And not only the rank and file, but the officers refuse to lead their units to the firing points. If previously people were being attacked with appeals, now they will only be threats. That's the whole "change of tactics," - said the source.
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  1. mamont5
    mamont5 22 August 2014 08: 09
    +63
    "A source in the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine: The Army has lost half of its artillery, and the Air Force is no longer there"

    Q.E.D. If earlier dill still won due to the overwhelming superiority in artillery and armored vehicles, now they have lost this too. So now they are trying to crush it with "meat", but it is not the first freshness, with a smell, sir.
    1. ispaniard
      ispaniard 22 August 2014 08: 10
      +49
      Banderlog, Hare to be greedy! Give it all!))))
      1. stalfal
        stalfal 22 August 2014 08: 15
        +11
        Our enterprises, of course, help as they can, but they are not omnipotent. Spare parts must be ordered in Russia.


        Yeah, so ours helped them.

        Quote: ispaniard
        Banderlog, Hare to be greedy! Give it all!))))


        Poland sends them tanks new, do not have time to give)
        1. Sakhalininsk
          Sakhalininsk 22 August 2014 08: 22
          +22
          Quote: stalfal
          Poland sends them tanks new, do not have time to give)


          Yeah, the Psheks are directly the kings of supplies))) they Ukrainians now can only feed apples and other tops, and their armament is no better than the adherents of the cult of ancient ukrov.
          1. bytkeev
            bytkeev 22 August 2014 09: 29
            +8
            but the Hungarians then help ... that would be to put pressure on them ... sanctions ... that would scream and stop deliveries
            1. ermolai
              ermolai 22 August 2014 09: 43
              +6
              how does that help? Reach that rodents could not push? there saw cut not sour along the way, imf tranche.
            2. Analysis
              Analysis 23 August 2014 21: 42
              +7
              Indeed, Hungary sold 58 T-72 tanks (1st series of 70 years.) To Ukraine.

              The company that bought the tanks was registered for 3 months. back. to a private address in a "poor" suburb of Budapest, ie classic "mailbox".
              In fact, a simple corruption scheme:
              1) Purchase of tanks "gathering dust in warehouses" from the Ministry of Defense of Hungary at the price of scrap metal (10% of their value).
              2) Their complete "expensive restoration and modernization", of course, only on paper, but really only fresh painting and railway transport to Ukraine (ie real costs 1% of the cost).
              3) Selling them to the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine as fully restored and modernized for 100% of their value.
              4) Naturally high ranks in the ministries of defense of Hungary and Ukraine, who signed all the documents in share.

              And when this rubbish is thrown into the ATO zone, then they will have "fly" boxes and motors, "wedge" guns, well, and without "active armor", it's just "iron coffins".
            3. Vlad Peel
              Vlad Peel 25 August 2014 00: 58
              0
              I think the turn will come to all, competent sanctions will be received in a timely manner. Russians harness for a long time, but go fast !!!
        2. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 22 August 2014 09: 04
          +14
          A joke from the Internet in the subject.
          Caught by the Martians of the French, American and Xoxla. They took to their Mars. They began to conduct experiments on them, a year later the earthlings got tired and asked to go home. The Martians listened to their complaints and said: “Well, go home, only first, we will shut you up in solitary tight cells for a month, give you two iron round balls from the bearing, and who can figure out what can be done with these balls is the best and most interesting, he will fly home. A month later, as agreed, they came to the Frenchman, who, in tears, returned the balls, said that he hadn’t come up with anything. The Martians went to the American, the American ... wrote so much paper in useful ways to use iron balls that on Earth he would have been awarded the Nobel Prize, the Martians looked and said:
          -You are flying a guy home, because you know that xoxol will not come up with anything better, pack your bags.
          But for fun we went to the same place. Ten minutes later they return to the American and say:
          -Xoxol flies, you stay with the Frenchman. American:
          -How so, what is this xoxol invented? Martians:
          -Do not know what he came up with, but he lost one ball, and broke the second!

          http://www.anekdot.ws/archives/category/nation/ukr
          1. spech
            spech 22 August 2014 10: 22
            +10
            a beard and initially did not look like that.
          2. Samklim
            Samklim 22 August 2014 13: 46
            +2
            I don’t know about you, but this joke is exactly about Russian
            1. lukke
              lukke 23 August 2014 11: 36
              +23
              I don’t know about you, but this joke is exactly about Russian
              Why did you minus Samklim ?! I also heard this anecdote about ten years ago without the Martians, it is true, but with the Russian. You have to be more objective, members of the forum! And then half of the comments without any opinion and analysis are continuous "hurray" - patriotic chants
              1. ksan
                ksan 23 August 2014 13: 04
                +12
                I don’t know about you, but this joke is exactly about Russian
                In vain the guy was bombed laughing I heard this "bearded" anecdote in another version - without the Martians and instead of the Ukrainian Russian. And I don't see anything offensive here. fellow
                1. vadimab
                  vadimab 23 August 2014 22: 00
                  +4
                  I totally agree. Also heard a similar joke in a different version
            2. Shoma-1970
              Shoma-1970 24 August 2014 00: 07
              +1
              Did not guess...!
            3. Dmitry Toderes
              Dmitry Toderes 25 August 2014 04: 18
              0
              Quote: Samklim
              I don’t know about you, but this joke is exactly about Russian


              No. About Ukrainians. Even if it was originally about Russian, now, due to objective circumstances, it became about Ukrainians - even in Russia towers from an infantry fighting vehicle cannot be stolen from abandoned storage depots. tongue
          3. fairmen
            fairmen 24 August 2014 19: 40
            +2
            Crest came to his son in the army. Approach the checkpoint. He sees a son with a gun.
            - Why are you shy here
            son to him
            - I protect the warehouses
            Father
            - and in warehouses
            son
            - yes here are the ammunition things
            Father
            and if I'm an American shpien
            son of a machine gun takes off and father TRA-TA TA
            - You bach yak S U K A
          4. Vlad Peel
            Vlad Peel 25 August 2014 01: 07
            -1
            Less for a long beard!
        3. mamont5
          mamont5 22 August 2014 10: 48
          +4
          Quote: stalfal
          Poland sends them tanks new, do not have time to give)


          If only the crews did not send these tanks, but without the skilled crew, this is iron on the tracks.
          1. Vlad Peel
            Vlad Peel 25 August 2014 01: 11
            0
            But they can! Judging by the Soviet TV series, each tank will have "Three Poles, Georgians, and a dog (probably from the right watchdog sector)"
        4. Rostov
          Rostov 22 August 2014 11: 27
          +12
          Well psheki sometimes send such
          1. opus
            opus 23 August 2014 17: 00
            +3
            Quote: Rostov
            Well psheki sometimes send such

            1. Drink beer in public places and in transport, in the EU - PROHIBITED, swearing too)
            2. Who shouts Allah Akbar, and who is kurva (Pole's vocabulary is 80% of the word "kurva" in various variations)
            3. This is polka them for Lviv in 1941, well, for the sake of prevention, as the forerunner of European integration
        5. lukke
          lukke 23 August 2014 11: 31
          0
          Our enterprises, of course, help as much as they can, but they are not omnipotent. Spare parts must be ordered in Russia, ”the source emphasized.
          Not only Poland - our KAMAZ and Belarusian MAZ supplies for the National Guard, Yankees howitzers and precision shells, etc.
          1. Azzzwer
            Azzzwer 23 August 2014 15: 28
            0
            Quote: lukke
            precision shells
            and how is it?
            1. lukke
              lukke 23 August 2014 23: 28
              +1
              and how is it?
              I'm certainly not an artillery engineer, but fire an ordinary 7,62X54R and a 7N14 cartridge from an SVD, and even just 7N1 and feel the difference
            2. Vlad Peel
              Vlad Peel 25 August 2014 01: 15
              +1
              These are the shells that hit schools, hospitals, kindergartens and other hotbeds of "terrorism"
          2. Suhow
            Suhow 24 August 2014 22: 56
            0
            and from Ukraine helicopter engines and so on are coming to you, and so on, about this type of scandal was brewing ...
        6. Azzzwer
          Azzzwer 23 August 2014 15: 18
          +2
          Quote: stalfal
          Yeah, so ours helped them.
          naive, this is business, nothing more!
      2. AleksUkr
        AleksUkr 22 August 2014 08: 25
        +16
        Quote: ispaniard
        Banderlog, Hare to be greedy! Give it all!))))


        And what should they give? Maybe this ...
        1. stalfal
          stalfal 22 August 2014 08: 34
          +10
          Quote: AleksUkr
          And what should they give? Maybe this ...


          In the near future, only an air serpent and a naval raft will remain at the urkaina. Well, a couple of tractors with carts.
          1. Basarev
            Basarev 24 August 2014 16: 20
            +1
            As for the naval raft, I would not really laugh. Russian engineers built for the defense of Kronstadt in 1856 a series of 14 combat rafts, each of which was armed with four 196-mm cannons. And this is serious, agree!
            1. Vlad Peel
              Vlad Peel 25 August 2014 01: 18
              0
              Honor and praise to the Russian savvy!
            2. Dmitry Toderes
              Dmitry Toderes 25 August 2014 04: 26
              0
              Quote: Basarev
              As for the naval raft, I would not really laugh. Russian engineers built for the defense of Kronstadt in 1856 a series of 14 combat rafts, each of which was armed with four 196-mm cannons. And this is serious, agree!


              But not now! You can't trample against "Bastions"!
              1. Basarev
                Basarev 25 August 2014 11: 45
                0
                Maybe. However, even Tur Heyerdahl was able to prove that even with extremely outdated technologies it is quite possible to create a raft of the ocean zone, which certainly adds utility to such a raft, in addition, due to the large deck area, it is easy to place runways on it. The result is a stealth aircraft carrier - a low silhouette and low draft by themselves sharply reduce visibility, the special shape of the hull and special coatings will reduce it even more. And these technologies are already fully mastered by our industry - remember small artillery ships of the Astrakhan type.
        2. Turik
          Turik 22 August 2014 08: 35
          +13
          Now Ukrainians will fight like Russians in Hollywood films about Stalingrad, from the city. detachments and throwing meat at machine-gun points.

          My silent and rat laugh behind the scenes. bully
          1. kay4yk
            kay4yk 22 August 2014 08: 46
            +4
            as if our films with S. Bondarchuk carry something true? Same job to america
            1. pahom54
              pahom54 22 August 2014 09: 50
              +22
              for kay4yk

              Would you somehow be more careful why confuse the son of Fedor with his father Sergei ???
              Here is your phrase: "as if our films with S. Bondarchuk carry something true? The same work for America ..."
              Have you ever watched a movie in your life with Sergey Bondarchuk ??? ALL films with his participation - at least as an actor, even as a director - were always patriotic, and there was no smell of any deflection ...
              Fedka - yes ... Sometimes I feel ashamed for him that SUCH father has SUCH son ...
          2. Samklim
            Samklim 22 August 2014 13: 52
            +1
            unfortunately, this was not only in films.
            1. ksan
              ksan 23 August 2014 13: 18
              0
              Samklim UA Yesterday, 13:52 ↑
              unfortunately, this was not only in films.
              War is not a place for discussions about human rights and other liberal "snot". "Do not step back", "Victory or death" is the only way to win wars, and if it were not for this as well as obstacles. detachments, WE would still agree with Hitler's heirs in the Reichstag and maybe in Moscow about "what is human and what is not" or "the non-humanity of burning people alive in sheds" And only thanks to this "inhumane" behavior, not WE but the Germans 70 years of repentance for "bad behavior".
              1. revnagan
                revnagan 24 August 2014 11: 29
                +3
                Quote: ksan
                if this were not like the fence. detachments

                Oh Lord, the topic of "blocking detachments" has surfaced. Yes, they did not stand behind the backs of military units with machine guns. do not convince ...
        3. FACKtoREAL
          FACKtoREAL 22 August 2014 08: 50
          +8
          Tachanka-Rostov?..not, a tachanka-Kyivan!
          "I don't know what humanity will fight in the third world war, but I know for sure that in the fourth world war we will fight with sticks and stones."
          A. Einstein
          1. Taga
            Taga 22 August 2014 09: 49
            +4
            [quote = FACKtoREAL]Tachanka-Rostov?..not, a tachanka-Kyivan!
            "e

            Requisition carts from the national economy for conversion into tactical war chariots. laughing
        4. Vkill
          Vkill 22 August 2014 12: 09
          +3
          ABOUT! Great option! Then they can be sausage just like a chainsaw)))
        5. Samklim
          Samklim 22 August 2014 13: 49
          -27
          and what side is this for the Ukrainian troops? you no longer know how to assert itself at the expense of others. one joke, the second picture. aggravation of the anti-Ukrainian stench is understandable - the candle always flashes brightly before extinguishing. conclude, mr. good.
          1. ksan
            ksan 23 August 2014 13: 35
            +8
            aggravation of the anti-Ukrainian stench is understandable - the candle always flashes brightly before extinguishing. conclude, mr. good.
            "stench" as you put it, not "anti-Ukrainian" but against what those people do who consider themselves better than others in "their" stranu.Pray God that THIS madness of "Great PROTO Ukrov" quickly passed. IMHO: Ukraine will never be "united" (within the boundaries of 2013). And the sooner the people and "rulers" understand their "mistakes", the more chances are to keep what is left.
          2. Dmitry Toderes
            Dmitry Toderes 25 August 2014 04: 30
            0
            Quote: Samklim
            and what side is this for the Ukrainian troops? you no longer know how to assert itself at the expense of others. one joke, the second picture. aggravation of the anti-Ukrainian stench is understandable - the candle always flashes brightly before extinguishing. conclude, mr. good.


            Here the Ukrainian heap of manure flared up - but here's the trouble: the heap is small and the manure burns poorly.
        6. vadimab
          vadimab 23 August 2014 22: 09
          0
          Well done. From the heart laughing This is them instead of tanks
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 22 August 2014 08: 31
      +29
      They have a problem with information there, i.e. With reliable information. Poroshenko asks: how many tanks do we have?
      A lot of things - answer subordinates. Well then fight them!
      Don’t go!
      How so?
      Broke.
      So fix it!
      Yes, parts should be purchased in Russia. Give me money, and it would be nice to make peace with Russia, or else a little, and everything will come up with us, neither the army, nor the fleet, nor the Air Force!
      So it’s necessary to pass Novorossia to the damned m. Alam!
      We think it is necessary, otherwise these will come to Kiev, and then they themselves will solve all the issues with Russia, and we will be "solved" if we do not run away.
    3. USSR 1971
      USSR 1971 22 August 2014 08: 35
      +5
      In addition: she lost her brain (adequate command and control), lost normal mobilization resources (those who are caught, who did not manage to escape, etc. The quality of the draftees is appropriate) will soon lose logistic support. Football ultras and the yard gopot to fight inappropriately. Soon the arrival of a white and fluffy animal.
      1. Wolka
        Wolka 22 August 2014 08: 47
        +4
        dill didn’t lose brains, there’s nothing to lose, dill just never had brains, there was pathological greed provoking Napoleonic ambitions and that’s all ...
        1. Imperialkolorad
          Imperialkolorad 22 August 2014 09: 31
          +3
          Yes there would be brains there was a concussion.
    4. evgenii67
      evgenii67 22 August 2014 08: 56
      +3
      You should also know what kind of "SOURCE" it is, but it looks like a fake! The fake is not that the Ukrainian army suffered heavy losses, and there is almost no aviation left, this is understandable, but the fake (very similar to this, perhaps I am mistaken) that a certain "Source" from the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine said something to someone !
    5. Bkmz
      Bkmz 22 August 2014 09: 00
      +4
      The worst thing is that from the western directions Ukraine no longer poses a threat even to sprotland, how to be an idiot, so that in all conversations about returning territories to EU countries (Psheks, Hungarians, Romanians) to utilize their own army for their own people, and then Estonia, or whoever their sole tanker on a lonely tank will capture the floor of Ukraine, maybe there will be nobody and nothing to repulse such an attack.
      1. ermolai
        ermolai 22 August 2014 09: 52
        +3
        don’t give me a gop, but crowds of Svidomo with Kalash and other kit, will soon appear in the open spaces of the geyrops of spratland, and other things, will come for the liver, will be accustomed to their values ​​and will have fun in the geyropa, the Russian embargo will seem pranks.
    6. Giant thought
      Giant thought 22 August 2014 09: 08
      +2
      The farther, the worse it will be for the Nazis, they are already beginning to understand what a people's war is. Ahead they have one prospect - complete defeat.
    7. xenod55
      xenod55 22 August 2014 09: 11
      +3
      The suchas were "finished". piglets. Ukhlopov's blitzkrieg is coming to an "end," just like the previous one. And after the next "mobilization" of disabled people and 70 year olds, these "warriors" will not even be able to escape quickly.
    8. PalSanych
      PalSanych 22 August 2014 09: 17
      +3
      On this Piglet and will ask to go to the world in Minsk
    9. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 22 August 2014 10: 43
      +3
      If the news is true, then great, but if a special bait? suddenly dill is preparing an ambush, defense, in the hope that, with inspiration, the militia will trample them on their trunks? therefore, one must be extremely careful and collected by the militia, and check the information for lice.
    10. urii
      urii 22 August 2014 10: 52
      +8
      The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine has released the details of the transaction for the purchase of a new development of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex - the T-14P "Black Rogul" tank.
      “It will be a truly revolutionary tank,” said a source in the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, “and the terms of reference for its development were given taking into account the revolutionary specifics.

      Representatives of the T-14P "Black Rogul" manufacturing plant confirmed the use of revolutionary technologies in the design of the tank.
      - As the main weapon, the Black Rogul will use a truly revolutionary weapon - the Maidan catapult, - said the general designer of the tank Y. Salozhrizhchuk, - we all remember that this is a weapon born of the revolution, which means that it is the most revolutionary of all possible ... In addition, the problem of a shortage of ammunition is immediately solved - a tank catapult can use cobblestones, and in the case of actions on soft ground, bricks shit by the crew.
      According to our sources, it is planned to use upgraded slingshots, which are capable of firing armor-piercing, tracing, and paper-and-paper charges over distances of up to 100 m, as paired with the main ejection weapon.
      The tank uses a unique fire extinguishing system - in case of fire, the ignition source is extinguished by liquid crew diarrhea. A similar concept was implemented in the Ukrainian Navy, as we wrote earlier. To implement the optimal scheme of this system, the crew is given special overalls - with a wide hole in the anus.
      “We are especially proud of these revolutionary overalls,” said Svidomo Ukrainian designer of military uniform J. Pidorogryzko, “tankers in this form emphasize their desire for European integration and European values.”
      Designers also extraordinary approached the creation of the tank engine.
      “We took into account a possible problem of fuel shortage,” Y. Salozhryzhchuk continues, “therefore the main propulsion system of the tank, similar to the ZAZ-969 engine, which is available in Ukraine in large quantities, is duplicated by a pedal drive. This is also a revolutionary technology - the essence of this decision was suggested to us by the fact of its existence, the mayor of Kiev Pedal Klychko.
      As far as we know, the moving parts of the engine and running gear of the Black Rogul tank are still lubricated with lard at the factory. After that, no other lubrication is required.
      The tank also uses the latest "pork legs" suspension scheme. The suspension designers claim that the use of this scheme provides an incredible smoothness of the combat vehicle - "a yak in a pig over bumps", according to the designers themselves.
      As for the reservation of the newest car, then there were some revolutionary ideas.
      “On the Maidan, young activists successfully used plywood shields and sewer manholes to counter the armor-piercing ammunition of FSB agents,” says the deputy chief designer, armored master B. Svinopotamenko, “that’s why the tank’s body is made of sewer manholes welded together and the tower is made of cardboard glued together with superglue armor plates. Moreover, to give the armored structure extra strength, quotes from the works of S. Bandera and our unforgettable teacher, A. Hitler, are applied to it, and the armor itself will be painted in yellow and blue camouflage.
      According to sources in the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, the new T-14P "Black Rogul" tank will soon show its combat power and will make it possible to achieve a turning point in the course of the ATO.
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 24 August 2014 16: 35
        +1
        Another interesting point should be noted here. Despite the seeming simplicity, a slingshot is a very serious weapon. In the USA it is a hunting one, there you need to get a license for a slingshot. Another special version was officially in service with the IRA. The efficiency was amazing - from 15-20 meters with an ordinary bearing ball it was free and beautifully piercing the skulls with unlucky micro-British warriors. And this is with complete noiselessness, absolute reliability, extremely widespread ammunition and the highest accuracy.
    11. Mashaaa
      Mashaaa 22 August 2014 10: 58
      -3
      How could it be allowed to get into the network an open base of all residents of the Russian Federation http://go.qb.by/48fa4? At first, I, like you, did not believe that it was real, but I decided to check (that is, search) several times and received too much evidence that the service provides honest information about people who live in Russia
    12. Alekseev
      Alekseev 23 August 2014 13: 02
      +3
      Quote: mamont5
      The army has lost half of its artillery, and the Air Force is no longer there "

      And it pleases!
      But cap-hatches cannot be allowed, the rear of New Russia is weak, the number of troops is small, and there are many different problems.
      Let’s hope that after the artillery and aviation, it will be possible to drive out the bulk of the most active banderlogs and that the case of the collapse of the ugly child of the collapse of the USSR will go in the right direction.
    13. gray
      gray 23 August 2014 13: 08
      0
      Not with a sweetheart, but with a sense of self-preservation.
    14. NEXUS
      NEXUS 24 August 2014 15: 26
      +3
      everything that happens in Ukraine will end with the first frost ...
  2. spech
    spech 22 August 2014 08: 10
    +15
    optical sights are stolen

    are there only sights? the whole country was taken away am
    1. kingnothing
      kingnothing 22 August 2014 08: 24
      +4
      Yes figs with these sights! The Americans said they would rearm the dill aviation! And then it turns out that they did not have time, but the money has already been allocated! Here's how to cut it!
  3. saag
    saag 22 August 2014 08: 11
    +5
    "... Spare parts must be ordered in Russia," the source emphasized.

    And what orders are carried out?
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 22 August 2014 08: 15
      +7
      Quote: saag
      And what orders are carried out?

      Of course, now they will bring it in white Kamaz trucks. smile
      1. papas-57
        papas-57 23 August 2014 09: 34
        +3
        "Of course, now they will bring them in white KAMAZ trucks." You don't need to think so well about Russian traders and officials. There will always be cattle for big money to sell everything the Ukrainians need, and sights, and spare parts, and ammunition. Not all are patriots of their country, some worships the golden calf.
    2. work67
      work67 22 August 2014 08: 20
      -5
      well derebaska. engines from Yaroslavl to HTZ delivers. for them, business is above all.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 22 August 2014 08: 47
        +10
        Quote: lav67
        well derebaska. engines from Yaroslavl to HTZ delivers. for them, business is above all.

        A link to the fact that the engines deliver to the studio!
        1. n0isy
          n0isy 22 August 2014 10: 03
          +1
          There, on the factory’s website, it is written in capital letters that it’s all jaundice and they don’t have such engines at all.
  4. Berrick
    Berrick 22 August 2014 08: 11
    +16
    The news is not a line but with a deep meaning:

    "A policeman who shot a teenager in the United States was donated $ 157. This money in support of Darren Wilson was collected in four days," RIA Novosti reports.

    At the same time, the number of people who left donations is approaching 4 thousand. Who exactly organized the fundraising on one of the Internet sites remains unknown.

    The murder of 18-year-old Michael Brown occurred in Ferguson on August 9. "

    CALCULATION began in another camp of the enemy !!
    1. saag
      saag 22 August 2014 08: 16
      0
      this garbage, it was already such a thing with Zimmerman, justified this and this will be justified, you can ignore it as in the case of the default of America :-)
      1. raven8888
        raven8888 22 August 2014 09: 26
        +2
        Ku Klux Klan raises money in support of a black teenage policeman
        The head of the wing of the American ultra-right organization Ku Klux Klan in Missouri intends to organize a fundraising campaign in support of a policeman accused of killing a black teenager in Ferguson, USA Today reports. "All the money will go to the support of a policeman who has done his job in the fight against" black "crime," said a representative of the organization (quote)

        http://russian.rt.com/article/46124#ixzz3AtbCyQVs
    2. doctor
      doctor 22 August 2014 08: 21
      +8
      Glory to Black Russia. And the national liberation movement. laughing
      1. inkass_98
        inkass_98 22 August 2014 08: 33
        +14
        Quote: Doctor
        Glory to Black Russia. And the national liberation movement. laughing

        Do you think black racism is better than white? This will be the genocide of the rest of the population, I guarantee by 100%. Accustomed to living on social benefits selling drugs, not a day working population of these ghettos will continue to live their beautiful lives, and white slaves will work.
        Martin Luther King Pryde - Order Now!
        So with political correctness we are not on the way.
      2. Samklim
        Samklim 22 August 2014 13: 58
        -18
        Black Russia has long been in Moscow. on every corner of the lysgin near priors. it’s dangerous for a Slav to be groomed at night, and for a Slav in general is mortally dangerous. or have you forgotten the athlete?
        1. patriot-rf
          patriot-rf 23 August 2014 09: 10
          +3
          my dear answer, why did you forget? Or did you decide to earn green money by trolling?
          1. vostok2014
            vostok2014 23 August 2014 12: 54
            -12
            Quote: patriot-RF
            my dear answer, why did you forget? Or did you decide to earn green money by trolling?

            And you, dear read. Maybe you will understand where and with whom you live.
            1. Gecko
              Gecko 23 August 2014 22: 03
              +3
              I look here with the invasion of hohlotrolls from the censor outlined.
              1. Samklim
                Samklim 6 September 2014 11: 56
                0
                I only learned from you here about the existence of a censor. I always went to get information about weapons, and now they have lit up the political secret.
            2. Pilat2009
              Pilat2009 24 August 2014 09: 36
              +1
              Quote: vostok2014
              And you, dear read

              Something the Slav brothers have been reaching out here lately. Are you tired of cooking on the censor? Or did you come for intelligence?
              So here you can lay out your thoughts in the framework of decency, without a ban.
              Now think about where there is real democracy. They do not even allow registration on the censor
            3. Dmitry Toderes
              Dmitry Toderes 25 August 2014 04: 42
              0
              Quote: vostok2014
              Quote: patriot-RF
              my dear answer, why did you forget? Or did you decide to earn green money by trolling?

              And you, dear read. Maybe you will understand where and with whom you live.


              It was not appropriate for chauvinism to flourish in Russia. Well, even if other people have dark skin, black hair, and what should we do as Americans - to shoot? - and they have there in the United States because of this policy, a real uprising has begun! Didn’t notice, no?
        2. ksan
          ksan 23 August 2014 13: 51
          +8
          Samklim UA Yesterday, 13:58 ↑
          Black Russia has long been in Moscow. on every corner of the lysgin near priors. it’s dangerous for a Slav to be groomed at night, and for a Slav in general is mortally dangerous. or have you forgotten the athlete?
          What is truly "deadly" for Russia is to act like the Maidanutye and "Svidomye" Ukrainians. In Russia, in addition to Russians, there are still 30-40 million other nationalities, and if WE do not respect each other, we will get SUCH, compared to WHAT, the Kiev Maidan will seem like childish pranks.
          1. Dmitry Toderes
            Dmitry Toderes 25 August 2014 04: 41
            0
            Quote: ksan
            Samklim UA Yesterday, 13:58 ↑
            Black Russia has long been in Moscow. on every corner of the lysgin near priors. it’s dangerous for a Slav to be groomed at night, and for a Slav in general is mortally dangerous. or have you forgotten the athlete?
            What is truly "deadly" for Russia is to act like the Maidanutye and "Svidomye" Ukrainians. In Russia, in addition to Russians, there are still 30-40 million other nationalities, and if WE do not respect each other, we will get SUCH, compared to WHAT, the Kiev Maidan will seem like childish pranks.


            Everything is right! It was not appropriate for chauvinism to flourish in Russia. Well, let other people have dark skin, black hair, and what should we do as Americans - and they got a real rebellion because of such a policy! All these people are our citizens - for me the Tatars are the same full-fledged citizens, like the Russians.
            1. Samklim
              Samklim 6 September 2014 12: 04
              0
              All that is good, if it were true.
    3. Hariva
      Hariva 22 August 2014 08: 21
      +1
      Least of all Wilson now wants to receive these funds. Most of all he wants to be on one of the moons of Jupiter.
      1. Dmitry Toderes
        Dmitry Toderes 25 August 2014 04: 45
        0
        Quote: Hariva
        Least of all Wilson now wants to receive these funds. Most of all he wants to be on one of the moons of Jupiter.


        And to him one hell. He lives in another city, where the white population predominates. But in the United States for the first time ever, the percentage of black children in schools surpassed whites - so that in twenty years .... feel
    4. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 22 August 2014 08: 49
      +3
      Quote: Berrik
      "A policeman who shot a teenager in the US donated $ 157.

      *** Yes, with my knee to my navel, maybe I can also kill a black man. Such prices laughing
    5. raven8888
      raven8888 22 August 2014 08: 59
      +1
      Berrik RU Today, 08:11
      ... Who exactly organized the fundraising ... remains unknown ....

      There was infa that the head of the local KKK branch adhered
    6. Dmitry Toderes
      Dmitry Toderes 25 August 2014 04: 34
      0
      Quote: Berrik
      The news is not a line but with a deep meaning:

      "A policeman who shot a teenager in the United States was donated $ 157. This money in support of Darren Wilson was collected in four days," RIA Novosti reports.

      At the same time, the number of people who left donations is approaching 4 thousand. Who exactly organized the fundraising on one of the Internet sites remains unknown.

      The murder of 18-year-old Michael Brown occurred in Ferguson on August 9. "

      CALCULATION began in another camp of the enemy !!


      There is no limit to my indignation !!! How so !? I saw in the news an issue about a policeman who just the other day shot another black teenager - he (the teenager) was unarmed! And these creatures (American policemen) discharged the entire clip into it!
  5. Afinogen
    Afinogen 22 August 2014 08: 12
    +2
    Over the past three weeks, the separatists have knocked out more than half of the available barrels and rocket artillery of our group.


    A little more and nothing remains.
    1. aleks_29296
      aleks_29296 22 August 2014 08: 32
      +7
      A little more and nothing remains.


      Well, why, they found equipment for the parade, as well as funds. To pay for gas, there is no money, in the army, there is no equipment, but for the parade, as they say, "victory" - please. Only victory is something not to be seen. Apparently the piglet is haunted by the laurels of I.V. Stalin with the parade in 1941. Well, it's like comparing the situation with prostitution.
      1. Border k
        Border k 22 August 2014 09: 40
        +1
        Sadama X in Egypt at the parade and banged. Porosenko should be thoughtful
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 August 2014 08: 12
    +3
    At least you change tactics, even diapers, but the rest is a complete paragraph.
    To fight with the people-not to ride on the Maidan.
  7. pasha24
    pasha24 22 August 2014 08: 12
    +4
    it’s necessary to continue in the same vein you look at the army in winter and will not be
    1. doctor
      doctor 22 August 2014 08: 24
      0
      She is already gone. It is obvious.
    2. AleksUkr
      AleksUkr 22 August 2014 08: 28
      +6
      Quote: pasha24
      it’s necessary to continue in the same vein you look at the army in winter and will not be


      No, they will be helped by fellow EU members, from exercises and into battle ...
      1. ma_shlomha
        ma_shlomha 22 August 2014 10: 20
        +1
        Is there a mistake in the signature?
        Perhaps this is a photo of a rehearsal of the Parasha & Ko-vskaya "Victory" parade in Kiev.
  8. ohotnik101
    ohotnik101 22 August 2014 08: 13
    +6
    "Spare parts must be ordered in Russia."
    Humorous guys. )))
    1. Nekarmadlen
      Nekarmadlen 22 August 2014 08: 16
      +3
      Quote: ohotnik101
      "Spare parts must be ordered in Russia."
      Humorous guys. )))

      With them it will become ... On the blue eye will go beg for parts ...
    2. 77bob1973
      77bob1973 22 August 2014 08: 21
      +1
      So, the BTT and artillery were disposed of in Ukraine, it remains only to purchase a new ...
      1. work67
        work67 22 August 2014 08: 28
        +2
        again laughing where will they buy. in Russia they will ask for a loan as promised in December. what im laughing
  9. gb69
    gb69 22 August 2014 08: 13
    +6
    Advice to dill from the song-take your greatcoat, go home!
    1. Balamyt
      Balamyt 22 August 2014 08: 18
      +4
      What overcoats are there? What is home there?
      Let the sheets be covered, and straight to the cemetery!
      1. ksan
        ksan 23 August 2014 13: 57
        +1
        Balamyt SU Yesterday, 08:18 ↑
        What overcoats are there? What is home there?
        Let the sheets be covered, and straight to the cemetery!
        In order not to "go straight to the cemetery", one must understand that the ENEMY is not in Donbas, but in Kiev. The sooner THEY understand this, the more chances they have to preserve what is left of the former Ukraine.
  10. smershxnumx
    smershxnumx 22 August 2014 08: 13
    +1
    Very good news !!! There was a fracture !!! Hold on guys!
    1. Basarev
      Basarev 24 August 2014 16: 43
      +1
      Now it’s no longer possible to fly punishers freely and beautifully over the Novorossiysk cities, horrifying all life.
  11. parusnik
    parusnik 22 August 2014 08: 14
    +1
    Eh..Siberian divisions would be militias, as in 1941 near Moscow ..
    1. diz1975
      diz1975 22 August 2014 08: 27
      +2
      The Siberian divisions of the 1941 model are cool. They stopped the German army that captured the floor of Europe and defeated it near Moscow. And these fascists are not just to Kiev, but far and far away.
  12. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 22 August 2014 08: 15
    +4
    They gave away everything and drank it, but there’s nothing to fight for such an army of arms militiamen — the youths have nothing to do with the authorities; they don’t feel their demise for a long time;
    1. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 24 August 2014 14: 46
      0

      So who this demon chose?
  13. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 22 August 2014 08: 15
    +1
    - Do you want a plane ???
    - Come on!
    - And dumb! lol
    1. gdv
      gdv 22 August 2014 18: 45
      0
      sho !! dumb dumb ????)))))
    2. gdv
      gdv 22 August 2014 18: 48
      0
      sho !! dumb dumb ????)))))
    3. cap54
      cap54 23 August 2014 13: 49
      +2
      lol 2 dill met, talked, and one said: “Well, I flew ...” He spread his arms and, well, well, suddenly, seeing another, in the bushes with shafts, he shouts: Mykola - There’s a terrorist, and Mykola in reply to him - yes no-and-and-and-fro ... This is Petro, he is a tanker and now he is sitting in a tank in ambush ... laughing
  14. special
    special 22 August 2014 08: 16
    +2
    Good news! There would be more of these!
    Remember dogs-chieftains, remember Polish pans .... am
  15. VadimL
    VadimL 22 August 2014 08: 16
    +8
    In fact, the lack of artillery became apparent after the Ukrainian army deployed the Tochka-U complexes, since it was difficult to come up with weapons that were less suitable for a civil war.
  16. gandalf
    gandalf 22 August 2014 08: 16
    +4
    Dinner is junting by candlelight with Muzychko getting closer ... wink
    1. Dmitry Toderes
      Dmitry Toderes 25 August 2014 04: 50
      0
      Quote: gandalf
      Dinner is junting by candlelight with Muzychko getting closer ... wink


      In hell in a pan?
  17. Bronik
    Bronik 22 August 2014 08: 17
    +4
    Spare parts must be ordered in Russia, the source emphasized.

    Soon, Ukrainians will report that Soviet equipment is so bad that it fails despite the lack of routine maintenance and protection against theft. In general, it breaks down itself, and militias pick it up. Shiza is progressing.
  18. Egoza
    Egoza 22 August 2014 08: 19
    +1
    The Ukrainian military has to "remove the equipment of the third and fourth categories from conservation" in warehouses, which has been there for 30-40 years.

    Here you go! And they said that under the USSR nothing of high quality was produced! Take it off, guys, re-preserve, and then tie it with a ribbon (yellow-blakytny) and bring it to the militias! wassat
    1. ty60
      ty60 23 August 2014 20: 00
      0
      ISU-152 was in their canned food. True, they are anti-tank and assault units. The electronics are dumb. The artisans will replace the wiring.
  19. Lyapis
    Lyapis 22 August 2014 08: 20
    +13
    Source in the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine: The army lost half of the artillery, and the Air Force is no more.
  20. MSA
    MSA 22 August 2014 08: 20
    +2
    It’s time to return them home and go to Kiev
  21. andrei332809
    andrei332809 22 August 2014 08: 20
    +2
    give dyrakam hr glass-not break, so lose
  22. desant_doktor
    desant_doktor 22 August 2014 08: 21
    +9
    Detachment Bes, they write, 4 "Peony" captured. Those who understand what this mechanism is, are very happy for the militias. good
    1. Performance
      Performance 22 August 2014 08: 41
      +1
      It would be nice to use them ... For example, something there with the airports has dragged on!
      1. Poldol
        Poldol 22 August 2014 09: 10
        +5
        Quote: Efficiency
        It would be nice to use them ... For example, something there with the airports has dragged on!
        1. Basarev
          Basarev 24 August 2014 16: 54
          0
          They say that the gang that seized power in Kiev still believes that NATO will come and show everyone. Top naivety.
  23. andruha70
    andruha70 22 August 2014 08: 22
    +5
    some media published material about the enormous losses of the Ukrainian security forces over the past three weeks, based on information from an unnamed source in the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine
    if this information is, indeed, from the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, then, it seems to me, Ukrainians are going to capitulate. and it’s better to do it on the 24th. wink
  24. zzz
    zzz 22 August 2014 08: 22
    +2
    Yesterday's "VESTI" showed a plot where one u.k.r.o. knows how to shoot from a tank. There are simply no others.
    This, of course, is war, but one can describe. If I find it, I'll post it. SUPER MILITARY! And even sorry for their commander ... stupidity is hopeless.
    1. Poldol
      Poldol 22 August 2014 09: 08
      0
      Quote: zzz
      Yesterday's "VESTI" showed a plot where one u.k.r.o. knows how to shoot from a tank. There are simply no others.
      This, of course, is war, but one can describe. If I find it, I'll post it. SUPER MILITARY! And even sorry for their commander ... stupidity is hopeless.
    2. Poldol
      Poldol 22 August 2014 09: 09
      +5
      Quote: zzz
      Yesterday's "VESTI" showed a plot where one u.k.r.o. knows how to shoot from a tank. There are simply no others.
      This, of course, is war, but one can describe. If I find it, I'll post it. SUPER MILITARY! And even sorry for their commander ... stupidity is hopeless.
      1. Samklim
        Samklim 22 August 2014 14: 04
        +2
        neighing, thanks)))
        1. Samklim
          Samklim 6 September 2014 11: 47
          0
          What are the advantages, guys? I neighing with something you didn’t even notice. There was no such equipment in the Ukrainian armed forces. Neighing with the stupidity of the author!
      2. fairmen
        fairmen 24 August 2014 19: 46
        0
        And he wants to pass armored personnel carrier in scrap metal
  25. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 22 August 2014 08: 22
    +13
    Already the mood has risen good ! The third wave of mobilization in the form of pensioners and those who dodged the first two, completely failed. The technique is melting faster than it appears. The West wiped the snot and, in the wake of the sanctions, realized that it was better to wait and sit silently (not to help the poor wretched), than subsequently to rake it off from Russia. Winter is already knocking on the door ...
    In short, the full n .... c in Khokhlostan ... bully
    1. AVIATOR36662
      AVIATOR36662 24 August 2014 00: 06
      0
      Full p-ts will be the whole of Europe, sanctions return to them with losses and unemployment, the collapse of some sectors of the economy.
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 24 August 2014 16: 58
        0
        It is doubly pleasant that the most rabid people of Poland and the Baltic states are raking more than others. The only bad thing is that one import is replaced by another. It would be better instead of Brazilian products to grow their own.
  26. Prometey
    Prometey 22 August 2014 08: 23
    +18
    Ukrainians, Ukrainians, what have you done with your country? And for what, all this? Struggling with the mythical aggression of Russia, which never came to war?
    By the way, when you enter the Ukrainian Censor, it's just complete bravado: Svidomo is destroying Russian armored columns in batches, the entire Donbass is littered with the corpses of quilted jackets and Colorado jackets, Putin will soon be eating ties, Russia is falling apart, and the valiant ukrovi will soon be hoisting their flag over the Kremlin. By the way, the dill on its Censor with foam at the mouth proves that all the photographs of the burnt equipment are either Russian or "terrorists".
    1. Lantau
      Lantau 22 August 2014 08: 31
      +7
      Sometimes I go to the Censor, purely for the sake of neighing laughing
      1. aleks 62
        aleks 62 22 August 2014 12: 11
        +3
        ...... Take a look today ua ..... This is tin !!!!! laughing
    2. Samklim
      Samklim 22 August 2014 14: 08
      -21
      uncle, we don’t need the Kremlin with the black-and-white. and scattering we do not need. Well, it’s not you for us border guards from NATO, but we for you. and since the border guard wants to go over to the side of the enemy, he is a deserter and must be destroyed. what are you doing. not for nothing that with an alliance in Ukraine they held a millionth army. you think about it.
      1. ksan
        ksan 23 August 2014 14: 28
        +9
        Samklim UA Yesterday, 14:08 ↑
        uncle, we don’t need the Kremlin with the black-and-white. and scattering we do not need. Well, it’s not you for us border guards from NATO, but we for you. and since the border guard wants to go over to the side of the enemy, he is a deserter and must be destroyed.
        "WE", "YOU" - until it comes to your confusion that YOU and WE are one people, while "YOU" people will abandon their roots, OUR common history, you will make a blowjob to the United States, as the Prime Minister of Poland put it, YOU not build a strong, free country. Well, we decided to "repaint" in "rainbow" - the flag in your hands, forward to Geyropa. But why make an enemy out of Russia ?? Where is your vaunted cunning? Recently you have been showing (most of you) that you are not only "Ivans who do not remember kinship", but also stupid before committing suicide fool To do artificially (where there is none) Enemies from the country are vitally important for YOU only by the DUEST and MUCHEST! hi
        1. Vlad Peel
          Vlad Peel 25 August 2014 01: 55
          +1
          If God wants to punish, he first deprives a person of reason. Wow, how many people in Ukraine are punished! A normally thinking person with a strong neighbor does not quarrel, lives in peace, it is more profitable for a smart person.
        2. Samklim
          Samklim 6 September 2014 11: 39
          0
          It seems that he correctly laid out everything, as if correctly. But still nonsense.
        3. Samklim
          Samklim 6 September 2014 11: 50
          0
          [img] http: // http: //vk.com/samklim? z = photo204808035_323113067 / wall68755223_6025 [/
          img]
          we are not one people. we have no relation to the Tatars
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 6 September 2014 11: 51
            +2
            Quote: Samklim
            we are not one people. we have no relation to the Tatars

            And to the Crimean Tatars?
      2. Dmitry Toderes
        Dmitry Toderes 25 August 2014 04: 58
        0
        Quote: Samklim
        uncle, we don’t need the Kremlin with the black-and-white. and scattering we do not need. Well, it’s not you for us border guards from NATO, but we for you. and since the border guard wants to go over to the side of the enemy, he is a deserter and must be destroyed. what are you doing. not for nothing that with an alliance in Ukraine they held a millionth army. you think about it.


        Bullshit of a xyx mare. Well, what’s still not tired - look at your rating. I also tried wink ... If you want to voice your fantasies and pass them off as reality, this is not a censor. So I wrote "Ukraine" before. Now, seeing how you write the word "Russia" I will write "usraina" or "khokhlostan". Well done - you have multiplied the number of those who are disappointed in your ability to think.
        1. Samklim
          Samklim 6 September 2014 11: 44
          0
          On this site, my rating should be that way. Thank you so much for your input. All articles and comments on VO are taken from the Russian media. I don’t even recognize our Ukrainian lying media. As a security official and a native of Donbass, I trust only the direct participants. So, if for the truth you spoiled my minuses here - then spank me again. No one ever loved the truth. Have a good day!
  27. Wolka
    Wolka 22 August 2014 08: 24
    +10
    well, that’s one more sign of Ukraine’s statehood that it has lost (there’s no Army, no Fleet, no sea or air), although there is nothing to be surprised at, Ukraine has always been led and has never been leading, it has never had sovereignty, eternal squabbles and greed and venality from bottom to top
  28. kay4yk
    kay4yk 22 August 2014 08: 25
    +3
    stop fooling you out of yourself: they came to a foreign land to establish their order with the sword. Your warriors are a herd that does not understand why they are leading him to slaughter. I do not think that ideological ones represent any kind of force. The only ones who represent real power are mercenaries who know that this is their war, know what they are doing here
    1. Samklim
      Samklim 22 August 2014 14: 10
      -9
      you know better, sir sofa mercenary.
  29. Vardan
    Vardan 22 August 2014 08: 25
    +7
    Disposal of military scrap!
    When disposing of 1 aircraft, TANK AS A GIFT :)
  30. cosmos132
    cosmos132 22 August 2014 08: 26
    +3
    Of course, the militia needs help with modern anti-tank weapons. Another change in the tactics of fighting dill will lead to the complete destruction of equipment.
  31. combat66
    combat66 22 August 2014 08: 26
    +4
    It would be nice to swing these swings the other way .....
    Although, no .... enough, everyone has already suffered.
    Tie it up, banderlog!
  32. kimanas
    kimanas 22 August 2014 08: 31
    +4
    Well! Soon we will wait for "peace initiatives", "negotiation table" from Kyev. They will also set conditions! Are you partisans yourself?
  33. Barakuda
    Barakuda 22 August 2014 08: 35
    +5
    The air force as such is truly NOT. The neighbor was kicked in the ass in the Crimea, now junk is guarded in Nikolaev, taken out of the Crimea. Lieutenant Colonel pancake.
  34. vvsz031249
    vvsz031249 22 August 2014 08: 36
    +3
    You won’t win any threats ... There will be a lot of people who want to shoot in the back, and indeed turn bayonets ...
  35. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 22 August 2014 08: 37
    +3
    What a good article in the morning! Straight mood lifted! good drinks
  36. Temer
    Temer 22 August 2014 08: 37
    +1
    3,14dec piglet.
  37. gamer
    gamer 22 August 2014 08: 41
    0
    In general, it is necessary to deprive dill of any kind of weapons for ever
    1. Wolka
      Wolka 22 August 2014 08: 51
      +3
      it’s not enough to physically deprive dill of weapons, it is necessary to forbid it to have troops in general
      1. Poldol
        Poldol 22 August 2014 09: 16
        +3
        It is good that in the nineties during the collapse of the USSR, dill abandoned nuclear weapons. Can you imagine what would happen to New Russia now? A bloody confectioner of the mind would have had enough to screw a nuclear warhead onto Point-U ... soldier
  38. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 22 August 2014 08: 43
    +4
    Everything returns to its normal circles: having achieved almost nothing, the junta was left with a "broken trough", and dreamed of becoming a "mistress", eh dreams of a dream ... In short, the national gadi: when leaving, drain the water and light the light, but the gas is gone! And on August 24, Parashenko will hold a "memorial" parade across Ukraine in Kiev! Flag in your hands and our drum! Soar like GOATS "maidan" horses!
    1. Poldol
      Poldol 22 August 2014 09: 17
      +2
      The bloody confectioner is already draining its assets from dill through the Rothschild company.
    2. Samklim
      Samklim 22 August 2014 14: 16
      -8
      here you write "junta", but you understand the meaning of the word? I explain for those who are on the armored train. junta - the power of the military (or any other security forces). and so in Ukraine, the military does not really have power, well, these brain-ossified scoops of trust do not cause. but who is the head of state in Russia? right! I know that the first time the eyes cut through with pain, but this is the path to recovery. Now answer not me, but yourself - where is the junta?
      1. Sour
        Sour 23 August 2014 12: 51
        +6
        In Spanish, the junta means meeting, advice.
        1. Dmitry Toderes
          Dmitry Toderes 25 August 2014 05: 02
          0
          Quote: Sour
          In Spanish, the junta means meeting, advice.


          He came to power as a result of an armed coup. (I supplemented it - meaning it means).
      2. ksan
        ksan 23 August 2014 14: 59
        +4
        in Ukraine, the military is really not in power, well, these scooped-up scoops of trust do not cause. But in Russia, who is the head of state? correctly! I know that for the first time, eyes cut through with pain, but this is the way to recovery. Now answer not to me, but to yourself - where is the junta?
        In Ukraine, in power, which by the way YOU have chosen, not "ossified scoops" and people who US army to Ukraine, but in Russia the president, wherever he was, a man who defends the interests of his country, not "Uncle Sema" So you better need to "cut through" your eyes. It is not for nothing that an anecdote is already circulating in the West: "America will fight Russia to the last Ukrainian."
      3. Gecko
        Gecko 23 August 2014 22: 04
        0
        What are you not at the front?
      4. revnagan
        revnagan 24 August 2014 11: 51
        +1
        Quote: Samklim
        I explain for those who are on an armored train. junta - the power of the military (or any other security officials). and so, in Ukraine, the military is really not in power

        The meaning of the word Junta according to Ephraim:
        Junta - 1. The name of socio-political organizations, associations in Spain and in Latin America.
        2. Executive, governmental authority in some Latin American countries.
        3. Military reactionary terrorist groupseized power and established its dictatorship.

        The meaning of the word Junta according to Ozhegov:
        Junta - A military reactionary terrorist group that seized power and established a terrorist dictatorship

        So what does not suit you? Is the Right Sector represented by the battalions "Aydar", "Dnepr 1,2", "Azov", "Dn
        epropetrovsk "and so on. are not MILITARY in nature? Is it not the right sector that seized power in the country by force? Do these forces not carry out terror in Ukraine under the guise of power? In my opinion, all the signs of the junta are evident. Next, you and such as you are complaining that Russia supports the militia. And so they would have long ago, the cutout ... have been brought to their senses. That is, Russia, like this, with folded arms, had to sit and watch the cutout ... "educate" the Russian-speaking borderline If the war seems to you a "knightly tournament", where everything is "honest", and you do not like such "unsportsmanlike" behavior of Russia, then the representatives of Ukraine in this case should return to the "Western partners" everything that they received from them - funding , MILITARY EQUIPMENT, rations ... But the Ukrainian side is in no hurry to do this ...
      5. Vlad Peel
        Vlad Peel 25 August 2014 02: 00
        0
        No, not the junta, but the gang! And not revolution was not Maidan (look in the dictionary what revolution is), but a gangster redistribution of property and spheres of influence
  39. Karasik
    Karasik 22 August 2014 08: 44
    +5
    22.08.14. Message from the militia.

    "Ukrainian punishers continue to use the Tochka-U missile systems in cities and infrastructure of Novorossia.
    In recent days, multiple launches of Tochka-U missiles in the Artemovsk-Debaltsevo section have been observed.
    19 August was made about 6 missile launches from Debaltseve (evening and night).
    August 20 was made 3 rocket launch, also from under Debalcevo (one of the launches was about 16-30).
    21 August launch was made during the day by Artemovsk. "



    Now - this is called a lack of artillery. No aviation. No armored vehicles. Nothing to fight, mobilization failed, huge losses and mass desertion. If these are not signs of the near collapse of UkroReich, then what is it?
  40. tommy717
    tommy717 22 August 2014 08: 45
    0
    Thanks for the optimistic article.
  41. Finches
    Finches 22 August 2014 08: 46
    +4
    Well, well, it remained Poroshenko December 25, 2014 to repeat the sad action of Gorbachev 23 years ago and sign a document saying the termination of the existence of such a country as Ukraine! There is nothing to amuse humanity, and so the patient is more likely dead than alive!
  42. Lyton
    Lyton 22 August 2014 08: 51
    0
    Yes, order those parts in Russia, we will send them to you promptly.
    1. Buran
      Buran 22 August 2014 10: 22
      0
      Through the postal service of the militia of the DNI and LC.
  43. Lefty
    Lefty 22 August 2014 08: 51
    +4
    Everything is great, of course, but trust in unnamed sources is zero. IMHO.
  44. Karasik
    Karasik 22 August 2014 08: 52
    +1
    Quote: Finches
    Well, then, Poroshenko left 25 December 2014 year to repeat the sad action of Gorbachev 23 summer ago and sign a document saying the cessation of the existence of such a country as Ukraine!

    You are very optimistic. 25 DECEMBER! They are unlikely to reach October!
  45. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov 22 August 2014 08: 53
    +2
    fearless Piglet! I remember the cartoon (USSR) "Gray Neck" The duck did not want to fly away with the flock to the south (((, and there is a fish in the pond + a dummy in a swamp hummock - overwintering! Frosts narrowed with wormwood every night and once the fox did get to the duck - " NAIVE GRAY NECK "End. So the piglet - run already))))
  46. INF
    INF 22 August 2014 08: 59
    0
    Quote: spech
    optical sights are stolen

    are there only sights? the whole country was taken away am



    And they worked on this for many years ...
  47. Poldol
    Poldol 22 August 2014 09: 03
    +4
    The pathologist working in the morgue calls his friend, the Ukrainian colonel of the Air Force, and asks:
    - Mikola, how many planes did you send to New Russia today?
    - SU-25, 2 SU-24 and one helicopter! And what?
    - Well, that means the helicopter is still flying somewhere ..
    lol
    1. revnagan
      revnagan 24 August 2014 11: 55
      +1
      Quote: PolDol
      A pathologist working in a morgue calls his friend, a Ukrainian colonel of the Air Force and asks: “Mikola, how many planes did you send to New Russia today?” - SU-25, 2 SU-24 and one helicopter! And what? - Well, that means the helicopter is still flying somewhere ..

      Old, my friend, this is an old Soviet anecdote about how 5 Java motorcycles were brought to a small town in the "Sports Goods" store.
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  50. S.S. Gorbunkov
    S.S. Gorbunkov 22 August 2014 09: 17
    -17
    The article is encouraging, of course, but this is an empty chatter without evidence. But the cemetery of the Oplchenians near Donetsk, pay attention to the numbers on the tablets:
    1. Victor-M
      Victor-M 22 August 2014 09: 37
      +2
      Quote: S.S. Gorbunkov
      The article is encouraging, of course, but this is an empty chatter without evidence. But the cemetery of the Oplchenians near Donetsk, pay attention to the numbers on the tablets:


      It’s not clear that these are militias, where is the evidence? laughing
    2. Dimych
      Dimych 22 August 2014 09: 42
      +1
      what do these numbers mean?
    3. Berkut-UA
      Berkut-UA 22 August 2014 11: 16
      +3
      Yes, in this cemetery, militias are buried and civilians killed by the thugs of Kalamoy and the dill army.

      But comparing with the dead about 9.000 soldiers and officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
      you can get an idea - who is fighting like
    4. aleks 62
      aleks 62 22 August 2014 12: 18
      +7
      ..... Semyon Semyonich ..... I thought you were smarter .... Why would the militia bury their nameless when everyone around them knows ????? ..... Here lie "heroi" ukrvoyska. ... hi
    5. sop.ov
      sop.ov 22 August 2014 17: 16
      +2
      in the same way, the inhabitants of heroic Slavyansk were buried in nameless graves during the blockade - the current cemetery was fired upon by the Ukrainian.po.p.v. mortuary, therefore they buried in 300 m from the morgue in the former Jewish (now there is a wasteland). The numbers were put on those whom it was impossible to identify (killed on the street without documents during the shelling, and this is 90% of the dead). Anyway - what are the monuments in the besieged city?