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Vanishing Point (Asia Times, Hong Kong)

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Vanishing Point (Asia Times, Hong Kong)


At first, the MH370 airliner disappeared from planet Earth. Then the MH370 disappeared from News. First, the MH17 was shot down by a “Putin rocket,” as planet Earth was told. Then MH17 disappeared from the news.

Where are you, Baudrillard (French sociologist, author of the concept of hyperreality - approx. Transl.), When we need you most? If this dervish simulacra were alive, he would have already exposed these two Malaysian airplanes as specular reflections. Oh, he would have restored them - from the absolute point of extinction to the full exposure - and then he would make him disappear again. They could well have been kidnapped - and shot down - by aliens. Here they are, and now they are gone. Simulacrum!

Black boxes, recorders - everything that MH17 was, today is floating in a black void. The British have been analyzing this data for ages - and if they have already done so, then for some reason they are silent. They kind of sing a song: I see a black box / I want it to disappear ... into the void.

The Pentagon, who sees through Ukraine, knows what happened. Russian intelligence does not only know - it offered to look at what happened at the official presentation, which the West rejected. The best technical analysis of the incident indicates that the plane was shot down not by the “Buck” Putin’s rocket, but by the P-60 air-to-air missile in combination with the Su-25 cannon fire.

One reader told me that I should read an honest and fair assessment of what had happened, which was given by a former engineer of the USAF and Boeing Raymond Blohm. “With the appropriate direction, the Su-25 does not need to fly as fast as the Boeing 777 flies at cruising speed. He just needs to take a position to launch a rocket. Since the Boeing 777 did not maneuver, it is very easy to calculate in advance at what point you should appear at a certain point in the sky below it. And from there you can launch a rocket, which has the necessary speed and altitude to bring down the Boeing 777 (Р-60 is a rocket with very good characteristics). When the rocket disables the engine, the maximum speed and maximum altitude of the Boeing are quite within the reach of the Su-25. And at this moment Su-25 can use its guns. ”

Let's follow the engine wreckage. For the wreckage of the cabin. Look at the motives. It is impossible to even imagine the tectonic collisions of geopolitical plates, if the Kiev regime bears responsibility for the destruction of the aircraft. This will be the point of extinction for the entire (perverse) idea of ​​the "indispensability" and "exclusivity" of the Chaos Empire.

MH370 completely disappeared. History o MH17 should also completely disappear. The Dutch and the British can eventually convene a press conference and tell the world what the Host will give them in edited form. Nevertheless, one can count on the fact that many grieving Dutch families will express officially allowed indignation, if not confusion. You can also count on the officially allowed indignation of Malaysia as a nation. Why us? Why not once, but two?

Moscow, to the bone, having dismantled the “logic” of the continuing hysterical demonization of Russia / Putin, knows: whatever she says, the Orwellian police of thought recognize its words as invalid. But if the Boss controls what the Dutch and the British can tell over time, then Russia can strike back by organizing a leak of reliable script information and making it a property of Malaysia. And Malaysia will talk.

MH370 disappeared, as in a video game. MH17 was shot down like in a video game. And now the corresponding storylines about accidents with these planes disappear. We kind of conduct a mini-rehearsal of the black hypothesis of post-history.

Postmodern star Jean-Francois Lyotard and Flemish thinker Lieven De Cauter were the rare people who studied the black hypothesis. The black hypothesis is an absolute dystopia, played out in cosmological time at the time of the death of the Sun, that is, in 4,5 a billion years. In fact, it is about how technical sciences survived the death of the Sun and the death of humanity itself.

Maybe MH370 disappeared in the vestibule of the black hypothesis. But with MH17 everything is much more prosaic: it could be an operation under a false flag, which went wrong. Therefore, according to the rules of the Chaos Empire, it must also disappear. But the question is whether civil society around the world agrees with this - or has it reached the point of disappearance by itself?


From reader comments (translated from English):

Naim Karim

You do not have to be an investigator with iron arguments to have a valuable opinion. Even without romanticizing Putin, I can say that after the West lied about having weapons Saddam Hussein’s mass defeat and against the background of all this white-washed brainwashing around September 11 - no confidence in what they say.

Thomas Daniel Kuhn

As Pepe said, silence tells us everything clearly. If the plane had been shot down by a rocket beech by the separatists or the Russian military, we would have been told about it 24 hours per day 7 days per week. But since he was shot down by Ukrainian government forces, you don’t need to tell anything about it.

Armen Baghdoyan

If world public opinion ignores the traces of the crime that Pepe exposes, then we are doomed irrevocably. The criminal empire must be stopped. We have no choice.
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  1. work67
    work67 22 August 2014 08: 23
    +23
    somehow everyone was silent. suspiciously. they can’t tell the truth. not profitable.
    1. MSA
      MSA 22 August 2014 08: 29
      +12
      You can’t keep silent, it is necessary to push through until the real killers are responsible for every person there.
      1. severniy
        severniy 22 August 2014 20: 04
        +1
        what's the point? they are ssy in the eye, and they are: God's dew .....
    2. 97110
      97110 22 August 2014 08: 30
      +4
      So is Russia too
      Quote: lav67
      somehow everyone was silent. suspiciously. they can’t tell the truth. not profitable.
      Or the moment did not come, or "we squeeze the card"?
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 22 August 2014 08: 46
        +8
        Quote: 97110
        somehow everyone was silent. suspiciously. they can’t tell the truth. not profitable.

        It is even surprising that the recorders, where objective information is hidden, were given to Great Britain, and how London showed itself in this story. Cameron and BarDak ObRama, without leaving their offices, when a commission had not yet been formed, immediately identified the culprits and the cause of the disaster. This suggests that they are either fools, or consider the whole world fools, or did it intentionally. One thing is clear, fools do not choose responsible posts.
        1. Max otto
          Max otto 22 August 2014 11: 28
          +3
          Quote: Tersky
          It is even surprising that the recorders, where objective information is hidden, were given to Great Britain, and how London showed itself in this story. Cameron and BarDak ObRama, without leaving their offices, when a commission had not yet been formed, immediately identified the culprits and the cause of the disaster. This suggests that they are either fools, or consider the whole world fools, or did it intentionally. One thing is clear, fools do not choose responsible posts.

          It surprises me more that the dispatcher has never been shown, they are hiding it (if they have not already eliminated it). But he knows 100 pounds what happened.
    3. Wels75
      Wels75 22 August 2014 08: 37
      +2
      Here is another interesting version about Boeing. It’s grounded with evidence, but how to tie it to the first spring in the spring, I won’t put my mind to it !!!

      http://politikus.ru/events/26858-minuta-konspirologii-vse-passazhiry-reysa-mh-17
      -amsterdam-kuala-lumpur-vyleteli-na-17-minut-pozzhe-sbitogo-boinga-777.html
    4. Kastor
      Kastor 22 August 2014 08: 42
      +3
      They can’t pick up words
      1. andj61
        andj61 22 August 2014 10: 33
        +2
        Quote: Kastor
        They can’t pick up words

        Everything is simple here:
        First you need to answer the question: who benefits from shooting down an airplane? Of course, the United States, so that immediately, without waiting for the results of the investigation, to bring down sanctions on Russia - after all, Europe did not want to impose sanctions before the incident!
        Then to answer the question: who benefits from silencing this story, since it PROVIDELY blame Russia did not work? Only to those who shot down this plane!
        Comments, as they say, are unnecessary ...
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 23 August 2014 08: 14
          +1
          they only miscalculated a little in time, it was supposed to fall in Russia .. then a real stench would have gone, but dill has long been out of work
      2. Evil rabbit
        Evil rabbit 22 August 2014 14: 15
        0
        The words have been chosen, they cannot decide where to put the comma in the phrase "You cannot be silent"
    5. Hariva
      Hariva 22 August 2014 08: 43
      +6
      Quote: lav67
      somehow everyone was silent. suspiciously. they can’t tell the truth. not profitable.

      Lavrov sometimes reminds, but in the most democratic society of the Western world, they probably consider his words tactless. "People died there. No need to stir up the past."
      Ghouls, what to take from them?
      1. koshh
        koshh 22 August 2014 11: 17
        +1
        Quote: Hariva
        Lavrov sometimes reminds

        Yes, and Churkin at the UN asks with the gene. seca, but silence.
    6. xenod55
      xenod55 22 August 2014 08: 51
      +3
      The option, "ALL suddenly fell silent about the fact that the Boeing MH17 was shot down by a BUK" has been discussed for a long time. As soon as some of the European experts had the opportunity to inspect the wreckage, the Western and amerovskie media, and of course, the scammers suddenly "fell silent" Apparently there was an instruction from the "Master". But then the topic of the Crimea "surfaced" again. Mattress makers need a war between Ukraine and Russia, but Russia is not in this war. And on Boeing we are waiting for the end of August, they promised "preliminary" data, like - the data of the black boxes did not record anything SUCH. etc.
    7. Giant thought
      Giant thought 22 August 2014 10: 23
      +2
      Those who overwhelmed the Boeing are silent, at first they shouted: hold on to the thief, but few people believed them from the very beginning, and now even more so. So they are thinking now to lower everything on the brakes.
  2. nachprod
    nachprod 22 August 2014 08: 25
    +6
    Yes, everything is clear. The truth from the "evil empire" and its satellites hangers-on will not come. And our-fellows-competently hit the ball "flying" towards Russia.
  3. demotivator
    demotivator 22 August 2014 08: 26
    +4
    And there was no funeral for the dead. Protect corpses for new provocations?
  4. Name
    Name 22 August 2014 08: 26
    +14
    Welcome all! The truth about Boeing is NOT NECESSARY. Because the truth is unpleasant for amers and dill.
    The Netherlands Security Council decided to refuse to publish the results of the examination of the flight recorders of the crashed Boeing, which made its last flight on July 17.
    seehttp: //gorod55.ru/news/article/gollandiya-zasekretit-informaciyu-o-razbivshem
    sya-na-ukraine-boeing-777/8cfd0b20-a11b-4fb5-bc50-264b99aa21ee#!/-obshhestvo-/
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 22 August 2014 09: 13
      +5
      Quote: name
      The truth about Boeing is NOT NECESSARY

      As well as the truth in the investigation of the cause of the death of the “heavenly hundred” on the Maidan, the burning of people alive in the house of the Trade Unions of Odessa, etc. etc. since this contradicts the plan of the Chaos Empire with its capital in Washington.
    2. wbigfire
      wbigfire 22 August 2014 18: 39
      0
      Namedurek, the truth about the Boeing 777 is not needed now. However, the Netherlands has it. This is the main message of the Netherlands Security Council to Ukraine and, first of all, Poroshenko. This is the EU telling him - do not try to block the gas transit, otherwise the Boeing 777 pistol will fire at your temple.
  5. ispaniard
    ispaniard 22 August 2014 08: 26
    +18
    I really don't want this Boeing to remain on the account of our country, even if now everyone seems to have forgotten about it ... No, guys, it won't work like that! Let the real murderers, the customers and those who promoted this tragedy, such as the fat-ass Ruslana, "Parasha and Co." and our domestic liberal-hypocrites, answer.
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 22 August 2014 08: 32
      +7
      Quote: ispaniard
      I really do not want this Boeing to remain on the account of our country even if now everyone seems to have forgotten about it ... No, the guys won’t go that way! Let the real killers, customers and those who promoted this tragedy, such as, for example, the thick-set Ruslan and Co., answer.


      This is exactly what Churkin demanded at the UN. In response, meaningful silence.
    2. Underwood
      Underwood 22 August 2014 08: 39
      +7
      Quote: ispaniard
      I really do not want this Boeing to remain on the account of our country even if now everyone seems to have forgotten about it ... No, the guys won’t go that way! Let the real killers answer

      I agree. We got these reputational risks. It is necessary to put an end and begin to carry liars muzzle on the table.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 August 2014 08: 31
    +3
    ... then Russia can strike back by organizing a leak of information about a reliable scenario and making it known to Malaysia. And Malaysia will speak.

    I absolutely agree with the assumption of the author. And not only a leak for Malaysia, but also information about the involvement of US special services in this incident.
    1. DV69
      DV69 22 August 2014 10: 14
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      ... then Russia can strike back by organizing a leak of information about a reliable scenario and making it known to Malaysia. And Malaysia will speak.

      I absolutely agree with the assumption of the author. And not only a leak for Malaysia, but also information about the involvement of US special services in this incident.



      The Kiev authorities are still losing to the militia, and the United States is beginning to lose the information war to Russia. Therefore, the time for "information leaks" has not yet come.
      Leaks left for dessert in the battle for Ukraine.
  7. Performance
    Performance 22 August 2014 08: 32
    +4
    Our side is also not very persistent, even Asians noticed that ours could work more actively with the media!
    1. Sid.74
      22 August 2014 08: 41
      +3
      Quote: Efficiency
      even asians noticed

      The author is Pepe Escobar, a famous Brazilian journalist! Apparently, we are waiting for the official announcement of the reasons for the crash! Or, on the night before the announcement, we will issue our wiretaps of Boeing escort! winked
  8. kr33sania
    kr33sania 22 August 2014 08: 32
    +4
    "If the plane was shot down by a Buk missile by separatists or the Russian military, we would have been told about it 24 hours a day, 7 days a week." - That is why we began to despise THEM. The main thing is to never forget this.
  9. doctor
    doctor 22 August 2014 08: 34
    +3
    Now the truth will pop up and that's it. Hang yourself junta tuyeva laughing
  10. zao74
    zao74 22 August 2014 08: 34
    +4
    Golden eagle, Odessa, Mariupol, Slavyansk ... THEM this truth is not needed, for THEM - DEATH,
  11. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 22 August 2014 08: 35
    +3
    EVERYBODY KNOWS who killed the plane, but they are afraid to tell the truth because all Europeans are afraid of Amers and they know that Ukrainians were knocked down by America, because the Americans also expect that in the near future everything will be forgotten as a sniper on the Independence Square as it’s burned in Odessa as humanitarian aid is coming soon it will be like Ukrainians bombarding civilians with phosphorous bombs with strategic missiles like Amer rallies against blacks only they have a special rally in which there is no need for observers, I think if everyone realizes that America is a hotbed of terrorism then it will be better and more peaceful to live on earth
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 22 August 2014 09: 23
      +1
      Quote: VICTOR-61
      if everyone realizes that America is a hotbed of terrorism then
      need to crush this reptile! But first you need to snatch a poisonous sting from her (nuclear weapons!), So that ending with herself in the next world does not take all of humanity. That is where the problem is.
  12. andrei332809
    andrei332809 22 August 2014 08: 36
    +4
    Now the Yankees will try to erase this story by all available means. like nothing happened
  13. shishakova
    shishakova 22 August 2014 08: 36
    +3
    The Crime Empire is one step away from the abyss ...
    The truth about airplanes is for future generations.
  14. andj61
    andj61 22 August 2014 08: 43
    +8
    Quote: ispaniard
    I really don't want this Boeing to remain on the account of our country, even if now everyone seems to have forgotten about it ... No, guys, it won't work like that! Let the real murderers, the customers and those who promoted this tragedy, such as the fat-ass Ruslana, "Parasha and Co." and our domestic liberal-hypocrites, answer.

    It is very difficult - to call them to account, but, I agree, we must try.
    But they NEVER had any arguments - always only PR.
  15. ARES623
    ARES623 22 August 2014 08: 43
    +6
    The impending silence of the United States most eloquently indicates the author of the disaster. And besides, it once again shows how much the United States values ​​its NATO allies. And the Netherlands, which were publicly abused, wordlessly wiped themselves and, in general, with the rapist, the choir sang an old song. Even the death of the children did not make them try to ask the real culprits of the tragedy (not only from ukrov). However, Germany is no better, judging by the way its main ally with a gold reserve threw it. Now the Americans are proposing to Russia to discuss the situation with the INF Treaty - we probably need to draw the right conclusions from recent events.
    1. koshh
      koshh 22 August 2014 11: 04
      +1
      Quote: ARES623
      The Netherlands, which was publicly abused, wordlessly wiped off and, in general, with the rapist, the choir sang an old song. Even the death of the children did not make them try to ask the real culprits of the tragedy (not only from ukrov).


      What are you talking about. Yes, these geyropeytsy both stood to the top fifth point, and are ready to always stand and wait when they vdu.t. An endangered nation.
  16. nemec55
    nemec55 22 August 2014 08: 45
    +5
    The question arises: WHY IS RUSSIA SILENT ??? Why do not they trumpet all the media in all kinds of programs with speculation with theories to organize protests near embassies. And it feels like they wouldn’t touch us, my hut is on the edge.
    1. Underwood
      Underwood 22 August 2014 09: 00
      +3
      Quote: nemec55
      The question arises: WHY IS RUSSIA SILENT ???

      does not occur. Russia has shown arguments and evidence and is awaiting the outcome of the investigation. And to maintain a reputation, factual material is needed, not bonfire from the tires in front of the American embassy, ​​as you suggest.
    2. ARES623
      ARES623 22 August 2014 09: 03
      +3
      Russia is not silent, we simply do not have the power of RT to shout down the agreed chorus of European media on their territory. In the UN the same person who has more money is pushing his vision of the world. It has been said more than once about the pressure on the representations of other countries from the United States. On the sidelines, they agree with our innocence, but they can't officially say something - it's scary !!!! And the people, they traditionally "put" on it. Take an interest in the operation "Gladio" in Europe, it will become much clear where and whose ears are sticking out.
    3. DMB87
      DMB87 22 August 2014 09: 03
      0
      Why they don’t trumpet all media outlets on all kinds of broadcasts with speculations with theories



      11.08.2014
    4. DV69
      DV69 22 August 2014 10: 24
      0
      Quote: nemec55
      The question arises: WHY IS RUSSIA SILENT ??? Why do not they trumpet all the media in all kinds of programs with speculation with theories to organize protests near embassies. And it feels like they wouldn’t touch us, my hut is on the edge.


      All in good time.
      Politics is generally a very dirty thing, and international politics in particular. Did you pay attention to Churkin’s demand at the UN to publish the results of the examination for the downed Boeing? This is the first step. Now the ball is on the US side, in accordance with the actions of which further decisions will be made.
      1. African
        African 22 August 2014 13: 04
        0
        It is silent because it is not time yet. That's when they will bring out their mysticism and conclusions to the light of day, then Russia will strike so that the breath stops in the goiter, and the client does not recover. Russia is not silent. Churkin recalled. We are waiting. It will be fun.
  17. engineer74
    engineer74 22 August 2014 08: 56
    +2
    "Unidentified persons transported an R-17 rocket on board the MH-60 flight. As a result of the well-known, low quality of this ammunition, the warhead detonated, which, in turn, led to the detonation of shells of the 30 mm cannon, which were illegally (possibly for self-defense) in This section of circumstances led to the loss of control of the aircraft and its collision with the ground. Once again we want to note that the instability created by Russia in this region of the world is the main cause of the disaster. "
    We’ll hear something similar, in a month or two. sad
    IMHO
  18. Leonardo
    Leonardo 22 August 2014 08: 59
    +3
    They barked, choking with "anger !, splashing saliva ... at the command of" FAS. "But suddenly the owner shouted" FU "and ... Western media fell silent, waiting for the next command. Profanity of facts, malice by order ... in this the essence of the work of all Western media.
  19. ARES623
    ARES623 22 August 2014 09: 17
    +2
    I am sometimes tormented by vague doubts about this plane. Whether this is the flight about which there is so much talk. Didn't anyone think to "roll away" those corpses that were collected from the crash site? Or take fragments of the remains for accurate (DNA) identification. Amers can expect the most unexpected tricks. After all, it was not the aliens who stole the missing Malaysian plane. Where is the same he should "emerge".
  20. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 22 August 2014 09: 28
    +1
    And what can I say, Pssaka already said everything! request
  21. Wolka
    Wolka 22 August 2014 09: 28
    0
    but nothing new, just chatter ... who already got it
  22. SCHWERIN
    SCHWERIN 22 August 2014 09: 44
    0
    The UN should be tackled. Type to impose sanctions against her. And what? Payments do not pay small, but what good?
    At one time, Russia supported the candidacy of Moon-Korea. The candidate was state.
    The time has come for the reforms of international organizations, otherwise we will get to World War III with such work.
  23. comm
    comm 22 August 2014 09: 46
    0
    Damn, how lousy.

    How to bring the truth about МН17 to light?
  24. Alfizik
    Alfizik 22 August 2014 09: 58
    0
    "Silence of the Lambs".
  25. Blacks
    Blacks 22 August 2014 10: 56
    0
    Old article, already read
    http://inosmi.ru/world/20140818/222447775.html
    although it has not lost relevance, but even worsened ....
  26. Demeter1977
    Demeter1977 22 August 2014 11: 25
    0
    Interestingly, the fighter pilot was thinking about the consequences? After all, most likely it has already been eliminated.
  27. zllllo
    zllllo 22 August 2014 11: 57
    +1
    judging by the pictures, that in the public domain the Boeing 777 did not fall there. The size of the engines is not the same.
  28. African
    African 22 August 2014 13: 01
    +1
    History is replete with examples. The story of the Correian Boeing during the Soviet era. Watch the series Sherlock. Same. In the era of technological progress, adjusting the aircraft recognition system does not seem difficult. The resulting silence indicates that it was a well-thought-out combination, but as usual poorly executed. The goal is clear, Russia is a murderer, but it did not work out for them. Now they are watching how they get out, and they will have to give someone as a sacrifice. Two Malay aircraft. Two mystics, but human. Coperfields are bad. The laws of physics have not been canceled. Facts are stubborn things. The scandal is muffled. But the flame will burn. They will have to apologize. They don’t want to. Let's make it. Churkin won't let go of prey. Our person. With character. Let's look at Samantha. Drooling once again throughout the Security Council will fly. Bibs must be sent.
  29. Salkrast
    Salkrast 22 August 2014 13: 31
    0
    "When a rocket incapacitates the engine, the maximum speed and maximum height Boeing’s turn out to be quite within reach of the Su-25... And at this moment the Su-25 can use its guns. "
    - in general, the ceiling of the su-25 is not limited by the flight characteristics of the aircraft, but by the tightness of the cockpit. There is nothing stopping the pilot from using the oxygen cylinder from the ejection seat and doing dirty things for 10-15 minutes at 10000. feel
  30. Hitmaster
    Hitmaster 14 November 2014 20: 13
    0

    obviously our special services have tried! ) in time the much needed information was sent to us "from there" "our guy"! )), or ours held back a little, because they sent on the 12th, but in what month ...) Someone will obviously get a medal, and sooo deservedly !!! after all, it is worth a lot, to enable the GDP at the GXNUMX summit, to put all the rabid aggressors in the "low bow pose", it is, "knee-elbow")))