V. Baghdasaryan: “It is impossible to fight with the enemy, sharing its values”

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V. Baghdasaryan: “It is impossible to fight with the enemy, sharing its values”


The current Russian government has no alternative value project.

Vardan Baghdasaryan in an exclusive interview with KM.RU analyzes the possible ways of development of our country in the light of Western sanctions.

The bourgeois system of living arrangement was opposed to its own system

In 1917, the work of V.I. Lenin's "State and Revolution", in which the leader of the Bolsheviks described the future state according to the historical model of the Paris Commune. Post-revolutionary reality forced to adjust these plans. The fire of the world revolution could not be ignited. The young Soviet state had to exist in a hostile environment. Its economic and political isolation was organized.

The isolationist approach towards Russia was adopted after the plans for its geopolitical dismemberment were thwarted. The bet was subsequently made on the tactics of geopolitical strangulation. A belt of hostile regimes - the sanitary cordon - is being created around the Soviet state.

The situation around Russia today, a hundred years later, is essentially being reproduced. That model of statehood, which was implemented by the Bolsheviks, was a natural response to the challenges of isolation. It was necessary to create our own industry, independent of the outside world, our own food base, independent scientific and educational complexes. If all this had not been done, then, as I.V. Stalin "would have crushed us."

The bourgeois system of living arrangement was opposed to another, its own system. This is the key to the success of the USSR in the first phases of the implementation of the Soviet project. He began to lose to the West precisely when there was a rejection of the value alternative, the devaluation of the ideals of communism. It is this - an alternative value project, the ideals of an alternative model of living arrangement that the current state power team lacks.

Because of what in the value plan is a struggle with the West, it is not clear. It is neither as articulated. The same western values, which are positioned as universal, remain intact. Implemented the same Western, capitalist model of living arrangement. And from her state power is not going to give up. To fight the enemy, sharing the values ​​of the enemy, being like him, is seriously impossible.

What is the strategy of modern Russia?

Success in foreign policy is impossible without success in domestic policy. In order for Russia to truly become one of the poles of the world order, it must first of all be transformed internally, abandon imitation in each of the spheres of living arrangement - economy, culture, science, education, social relations, adopt a different, identical life model.

What is the strategy of modern Russia? By itself, the presence of any government strategy is not detected. The choice lies between three possible stratagems:

1. reconcile with the West, resolve differences, restore their status as a member of the West-centric world-system;

2. to redirect export energy flows to the East and imported - industrial and food from the countries of non-Western civilizational areas - to Russia;

3. to build a Russian-centered, economically self-sufficient system.

The first stratagem can find a significant circle of supporters in the elitist spheres. Westernism for the modern Russian elite is a type of life that has formed over two decades. The refusal of the Westernist orientation implies financial losses, deprivation of many dividends, the usual comfortable - “for two houses” - way of life.

Politically blocks the return to the clip of the western world-system figure V.V. Putin's Today it is odious for the West. After all that has happened, after the expulsion of Russia from the G-8, Putin is unacceptable to the West.

Russian centric model means paradigm shift for elite

In the choice between the second and third stratagems, the eastern and Russian-centric reorientation of Russia, the interests of the elite and the interests of the country also diverge. The change of the western vector to the eastern one certainly beats the elite. But even with the raw materials model of the industrialists of the East, the new Russian parasitic class retains the basis of its parasitism. It consists in the function of mediation with the outside world.

Minimize these functions, and overnight export raw material capital, and import-oriented trading companies, and speculative banking sector will collapse. To live by selling and buying, but not producing, the typical logic of being speculative capitalism.

The Russian-centered model means for the elite a paradigm shift in hedonistic life. The transition to this model is impossible without the adoption of a regime of mobilization. But it is mobilization that does not categorically desire the elite. This difference of elites is the fundamental discrepancy between the initial situations - a century ago and modern. Then there was a great ideological project, pushing the world value alternative, today - the ideology of unlimited consumption.

But the question of the new mobilization (its ideology, drive belts, human resources) is the main issue on the agenda of the problem of Russia's historic revival.
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  1. +18
    22 August 2014 18: 18
    This is just an alternative value project, everything for Russia


    What Putin did for Russia:
    • Over 12 years, Putin increased Russia's budget by 22 times, military spending - 30 times, GDP - 12 times (Russia jumped from 36th place in the world in terms of GDP to 6th place),
    • Increased gold and currency reserves by 48 times!
    • returned 256 mineral deposits to the Russian jurisdiction (it remains to ... turn 3!).
    • tore apart the most enslaving “liberal” in the history of production sharing agreements.
    • nationalized 65% of the oil industry and 95% of the gas and many other industries.
    • raised industry and agriculture (for 5 consecutive years Russia has been taking the 2nd-3rd place in the world in grain export, overtaking the United States, which is now in 4th place).
    • increased average salaries in the public sector by 18,5 times over 12 years, and average pensions by 14 times.
    • Well, just a trifle: Putin (he) reduced the extinction of Russia's population from 1,5 million people a year in 1999 to 21 thousand in 2011, i.e. 71,5 times.
    • In addition, Putin canceled the Khasavyurt agreement - by which he defended the integrity of Russia, made public the 5th column of NGOs and forbade deputies to have accounts abroad, defended Syria, and stopped the war in Chechnya.
    repaid a huge foreign debt, about 400 billion dollars
    Held the best ever winning Olympics
    Well, he returned the Crimea ....
    1. DMB-88
      -1
      22 August 2014 18: 27
      Quote: herruvim
      What Putin did for Russia:

      What are you doing the same thing? Harosh troll !!!
      1. -5
        22 August 2014 18: 35
        It just fits the topic, proving that the author is not quite right, and you have my advice:
        1. +13
          22 August 2014 18: 47
          Quote: herruvim
          It just fits the topic, proving that the author is not quite right, and you have my advice:
          If I now begin to list elementary things that he did not do, the list will be several times larger. Speaking about the advantages of GDP, do not forget the disadvantages. And then your coin and the truth all the time the eagle falls. hi
          P.S. By the way, the author is largely right, and the article, although superficial, is sensible.
          1. +2
            22 August 2014 18: 54
            If I now begin to list elementary things that he did not do, the list will be several times larger.


            Make a list, it will be interesting, we will discuss .... or can you just blurt out your tongue? And to do everything is not possible for the time that has passed, after the devastation that Boris left
            1. +13
              22 August 2014 19: 19
              Quote: herruvim
              Make a list, it will be interesting, we will discuss.
              The meaning is, you can mention only Kudrin.
              Quote: herruvim
              Or can you just blurt out your tongue?
              We all blurt out here, including you, only not with our tongue, but with our fingers on the clave. laughing
              Quote: herruvim
              and average pensions - 14 times.
              Value for prices for the 2014th year, please! Z \ P I have not indexed for 4 years, and added 6 rubles during this time. This is without a global rise in oil and dollar prices.
              Quote: herruvim
              agriculture (Russia for 5 consecutive years, ranks 2-3rd in the world in grain exports, ahead of the United States, which is now in 4th place).
              Here, Zyuganov recently spoke about state support for agriculture - in the USA, 24% of the budget is spent on it, while we have only 1%.
              I understand that the cherubim's habitat is heaven, but on earth a little differently. hi
          2. +9
            22 August 2014 19: 15
            Quote: Ingvar 72

            P.S. By the way, the author is largely right, and the article, although superficial, is sensible.

            The article is not even superficial. Just first you need to read at least Lenin's work "State and Revolution", which Baghdasaryan mentioned.

            To the author of the article +
          3. 0
            22 August 2014 19: 51
            THAT'S BETTER?

            Russian successes:

            • Over 12 years, Russia's budget increased by 22 times, military spending - 30 times, GDP - 12 times (Russia jumped from 36th place in the world in terms of GDP to 6th place),
            • Increased gold and currency reserves by 48 times!
            • returned 256 mineral deposits to the Russian jurisdiction (it remains to ... turn 3!).
            • tore the most enslaving “liberal” in the history of production sharing agreements.
            • nationalized 65% of the oil industry and 95% of the gas and many other industries.
            • raised industry and agriculture (Russia for 5 consecutive years, ranks 2-3rd in the world in grain exports, ahead of the United States, which is now in 4th place).
            • increased average salaries in the public sector by 18,5 times over 12 years, and average pensions by 14 times.
            • Well, it’s a trifle: it reduced the extinction of the Russian population from 1,5 million people a year in 1999 to 21 thousand in 2011, i.e. 71,5 times.
            • In addition, Russia canceled the Khasavyurt agreement - by which it defended its integrity, made public the 5th column and forbade the deputies to have accounts abroad, defended Syria, and stopped the war in Chechnya.
            repaid a huge foreign debt, about $ 400 billion
            Held the best-ever winning Olympics
            Well, and returned the Crimea ....
            1. kirqiz ssr
              +1
              22 August 2014 20: 38
              pinsonera still in the trash can rummage food looking for corruption 90 percent shorter
              1. -2
                22 August 2014 21: 05
                Where is it?!
                And who are pinsEoners?
                What is corruption without a second P?

                Comrade Sharikov P.P., are you this?
                1. +1
                  23 August 2014 01: 07
                  Probably kirgiz was referring to a homeless man in his pajamas, having drunk a pension. So this is whoever likes it. Freedom. Democracy ... her mother.
              2. +3
                22 August 2014 23: 35
                pinseoners still in the trash can rummage for food
                Why lie, dear? Here, after all, are not Ukrainian. Even in Kyrgyzstan, this is not so that they look for food in garbage cans.
                Well, I didn't have a chance to learn to read and write, it happens. Perhaps you will live the "dotech" time when you become a "pinseoner" and your conscience is cut through like a wisdom tooth? However, the probability of this phenomenon tends to zero.
                1. DMB-88
                  0
                  22 August 2014 23: 42
                  Quote: Elizabeth
                  pinseoners still in the trash can rummage for food
                  Why lie, dear? Here, after all, are not Ukrainian. Even in Kyrgyzstan, this is not so that they look for food in garbage cans.
                  Well, I didn't have a chance to learn to read and write, it happens. Perhaps you will live the "dotech" time when you become a "pinseoner" and your conscience is cut through like a wisdom tooth? However, the probability of this phenomenon tends to zero.

                  I can send you foty photos about morning dumps with pensioners! I wanted GDP, but he is not interested!
              3. nvv
                nvv
                +4
                23 August 2014 03: 24
                Quote: Kirqiz SSR
                pinsonera still in the trash can rummage food looking for corruption 90 percent shorter

                Senior citizen. Do not consume. I live, I chew bread. And I wish you the same.
            2. DMB-88
              +3
              22 August 2014 23: 03
              Quote: herruvim
              THAT'S BETTER?

              Russian successes:


              Yesaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ... laughing
              and you try tomorrow, surprise the people with your statistics!
              you can do anything, but don’t hold the People for u..d..i..o..t..o..v HATE !!!
              1. -1
                22 August 2014 23: 33
                ... do not hold the people for and..d..i..o..t..o..v ...


                You do not need to assign your honorary title to all the people, wear this title with pride, and do not shout to the whole community that you are honorable ....., well, you yourself are in the know. Good to you and peace in your soul.
                1. DMB-88
                  +2
                  22 August 2014 23: 49
                  Quote: herruvim
                  You do not need to assign your honorary title to all the people, wear this title with pride, and do not shout to the whole community that you are honorable ....., well, you yourself are in the know


                  Are you really so stubborn? or is it a banter?))))
                  1. 0
                    23 August 2014 00: 12
                    DMB-88 Are you really so stubborn? or is it a banter?))))


                    You see, progress has begun, you started contacting me at YOU, before that, only YOU, you must agree, communication was not in vain for you, you have become more educated.

                    Take the principle as a basis and everything will be fine with you

                    “Judge not, that ye be not judged” (Matt. 7: 1).
                    ... appropriated the right not only in their own way (as it was beneficial to them) to interpret the law, but also to condemn people who do not adhere to their views, who do not comply with their rules.
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                  1. -1
                    23 August 2014 00: 21
                    The real size of the assigned monthly pension in Russia (adjusted for inflation) in January-May 2002 increased by 22,6% compared to the same period last year, the RF State Statistics Committee said on Monday.

                    According to the agency, the nominal average monthly pension in January-May 2002 amounted to 1313 rubles against 915 rubles per pensioner in January-May 2001. At the same time, in May the average pension amounted to 1337 rubles. In May 2001, the average pension in the Russian Federation was 1016 rubles.

                    Compared to December 2001, the real average monthly pension increased by 8,3%. Moreover, it was 13,5% higher than in May 2001.

                    The average amount of the assigned pension in January-May of this year amounted to 33% of the average accrued salary.

                    And where did I lie?
                    1. DMB-88
                      +1
                      23 August 2014 00: 43
                      Quote: herruvim
                      And where did I lie?


                      Everything, I understand, you are hopeless ..........
                      Are you really not a "man in a case"? Are you leaving the house? Do you travel around the country?
                      or you have two idols VVP and Goskomstat, but there is still no third "churov" he also has 146% ...
                      kipipostit, charged goskomstat - it is cynical ... I sincerely regret you and what you will talk about your idols if suddenly the price of oil and gas falls or God forbid Donbass will clean up the junta and the war in Crimea will start, will you also poke percent of goskomstat? You understand that millions of people in the country are barely making ends meet, millions of people have been driven into poverty by wild loans, you don’t see that in difficult times the number of dollar millionaires has increased by a factor. And you don’t know that Putin brought Chubais to federal power structures . And do you think Medvedev is the most competent prime minister in the world? Only a blind man does not see this, but at least hears it.
                      And you, together with the State Statistics Committee, are trying to deceive people!
                      Of course, I apologize, but YOU ARE MUCH !!!
                      1. -4
                        23 August 2014 01: 27
                        Do not make yourself an idol. It is used in the meaning: do not blindly worship anyone, anything, like an idol.

                        You don’t understand something, I have provided generalized statistics of what Russia has achieved since 2002, and you are trying to convince me that this is not good. Or you need to explain the concept of "the national average", not with you personally, but across the country .You earn 10 I earn 000, on average we earn 1 each, but then you stayed with your 000, and I with my 000, so stop splashing saliva on the monitor, better learn what is in " average for the camp "
                        Come to live and work for us in Belarus, maybe then you will understand that your situation is not so bad.
                      2. DMB-88
                        +8
                        23 August 2014 02: 45
                        in the morgue -5, and in intensive care 41, an average of 36,6-- you can report that everyone is healthy)))
                        Quote: herruvim
                        . Or you need to explain the concept of "national average",

                        Some saliva, do not carry nonsense!
                        And Belarus I love and often visit Minsk, I have many friends there and life there is calmer, cleaner and kinder, but in general you provoke me ...
                        I tell you that there is poverty beyond the Moscow Ring Road, you tell me about patriotism, I say the country is being robbed, you are the State Statistics Committee, I say capitalism is a dead branch of the development of society, you come to Belarus, I mean "golden parachutes", and you divide them all over the country and you think that from a simple arithmetic operation everyone in the country is well fed and healthy, I say that this system is unsuitable for life, and you mean Crimea. You'd better go out into the streets of any provincial Russian city and put forward your theses, believe me, you won't go around for long and even the dogs will spit after you on your ratings and the data of the State Statistics Committee. something like that, a citizen of the HEAVY!
                      3. -5
                        23 August 2014 03: 12
                        If you have a lot of friends in Minsk (which I strongly doubt), they would have taught you to speak and write correctly long ago, not Belarus, but Belarus. And you, like any idle talk, skip a topic, your concrete proposals for improving the lives of Russian citizens, what steps were you taken in this direction, were you on Bolotnaya defending your point of view, or are you one of the couch strategists (beer, chips, computer)? And do not scatter terms that, judging by your posts, are more suitable for you yourself. Your pathetic attempts to offend me are only regrettable
                      4. DMB-88
                        +4
                        23 August 2014 03: 43
                        You do not cry current "Mister HELL")))
                        "No need to pour kefir in the ass" - this is your greetings from Ensign Tarasyuk!
                        I am a SOVIET MAN and I took the Oath in the USSR and I DO NOT trade my MOTHERLAND !!!
                        Doubts away! separate 10th leaves for the night. Our airborne battalion ... !!!

                        read "State and Revolution" brains can recover !!!

                        and stop kapipostit for the plus! soldier
                      5. 0
                        23 August 2014 11: 27
                        Ek hooked you and doesn’t let go. I’ll go down to your level and try to explain in your own words your essence, I hope it will reach and you will finally understand who you really are, read the text below for the sim and enjoy realizing your own essence.

                        According to one interpretation, these are those who are not able to reflect their actions from several different points of view. That is, he cannot look at himself from the side through the eyes of another and generally perceive any point of view that is different from his own.
                      6. +1
                        23 August 2014 23: 09
                        Quote: herruvim
                        whether you were on the Swamp


                        Well, I was at Bolotnaya, so what? I have nothing but hatred from pro-government commentators on this.

                        Quote: herruvim
                        write correctly, not Belarus, but Belarus

                        Oh, how to write correctly in Russian and in Russia it is not for you to teach us. In Belarus you can call your country whatever you like, but in Russia we will call it Belarus

                        And Belarus is a tractor
                      7. 0
                        24 August 2014 21: 34
                        Everything has long been open to him,
                        He is serious, businesslike.
                        They say: "normal."
                        He knows about everything in the world,
                        Your question will calmly meet
                        And he will answer with dignity
                        It will be important to say: “It must be so!”

                        And who is responsible for this,
                        That the smart is not noticeable,
                        And always noticeable
                        How is a crow a bitch?
                        He’s tenacious in everybody’s marvel,
                        He always lives happy.
                        Give the same initiative
                        God forbid a fool!

                        Read and learn to write correctly, Belarus
                      8. 0
                        24 August 2014 22: 49
                        Quote: herruvim
                        Read and learn


                        In his hands is a banner, in his eyes is a log.
                        Inside it is empty, there are many around it.
                        Like him
                        He loves to pour water, he teaches everyone life.
                        He calls to keep up, where he does not know for sure.
                        Smeared with tar.
                        He ate a living rat, he drank the blood of a cobra.
                        The witch burned to ashes, collected her ashes.
                        He sprinkled them with a body.
                        The people shouted to Hare while there was enough swill.
                        But, having drained the sea, no one could in the morning.
                        Remember his name.

                        Zombie plays the trumpet - we are dancing our dances.
                        But, God sees soon, he will shake off the dust from his feet.
                        Spit in the sky and leave, leaving us with his dreams.

                        Quote: herruvim
                        It will be important to say: “It must be so!”:

                        "... right, the Republic of Belarus"


                        For those in a particularly heavy tank:
                        Correctly in RUSSIAN - BELARUS.

                        At home and for yourself, you can be called at least the epithet of the Almighty and whatever you like.
                        You can say: "Belarus", "tinkering", "Moldova", "Tallinn", "In Ukraine", "Bashkortostan", "Uzbekiston", "Tojikiston", "Deutschland" and "Georgia"
                        And I will speak and write in Russian and in Russian: Belarus, Peretyrahivat, Moldova, Tallinn, in Ukraine, Bashkiria, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Germany and Georgia.
                        And it’s not your mind to tell me, Russian, how to speak Russian correctly.
                      9. 0
                        25 August 2014 00: 43
                        For those in a particularly heavy and deaf tank:

                        Republic of Belarus, not the Republic of Belarus

                        The Republic of Belarus
                        Type of government: presidential republic
                        President: Alexander Lukashenko
                        Capital: Minsk (1 million 901,1 thousand)
                        Population: 9 million 463,8 thousand
                        State languages: Belarusian, Russian
                        Currency: Belarusian ruble (Br)

                        http://www.belarus.by/ru/


                        The Republic of Belarus is located in the center of Europe. The shortest transport links connecting the CIS countries with the states of Western Europe run through its territory. Belarus has a common border with Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Russia and Ukraine.

                        http://president.gov.by/ru/belarus_ru/
                      10. 0
                        25 August 2014 00: 46
                        And again for the gifted

                        You can make sure that the name of this or that state is spelled correctly in the most accurate of all reference books, a kind of document of "last resort" - the All-Russian Classifier of the World OK (MK (ISO 3166) 004-97) 025-2001 (OKSM) (adopted and introduced in action by the resolution of the Gosstandart of the Russian Federation of December 14, 2001 N 529-st). This document is harmonized with the International Standard ISO 3166-97 "Codes for the Representation of Country Names", developed by the International Organization for Standardization (ISO), as well as with the International Classification of Countries MK (ISO 3166) 004-97 and the UN catalog.

                        OCSM is intended to "identify countries in the world and is used in the process of exchanging information in solving problems of international economic, scientific, cultural, sports relations, etc." and provides three blocks of information - the digital identification of the country, its name (full and abbreviated) and a two-digit alphabetic code. There is also Norway and Denmark, and Finland and Germany. But you will not find any Belarus in the OCSM. There is no such state! But under number 112 with the BY index in the list of countries is the Republic of Belarus (full name) or Belarus (abbreviated form).

                        So wipe yourself and without knowing the topics do not argue
                      11. -3
                        23 August 2014 03: 19
                        And your opinion is the opinion of a minority, which proves the number of + recruited for a post that made you go down to insults and a slight state of rage. Make peace with yourself and this will make you look at the world more broadly and benevolently
                      12. DMB-88
                        +3
                        23 August 2014 03: 53
                        Quote: herruvim
                        And your opinion is the opinion of a minority, which proves the number of + recruited per post


                        "Less is Better"
                        "We must take it as a rule: it is better to have a smaller number, but a higher quality."
                        IN AND. Lenin.
                      13. 0
                        23 August 2014 23: 20
                        Quote: herruvim
                        And your opinion is the opinion of a minority, which proves the number of + recruited per post


                        Funny

                        heruvim
                        Marshal

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                        160,4 points rating for the post and the marshal’s cardboard in less than two months show that you are a pro-populist populist, as well as your idol.
                      14. 0
                        24 August 2014 21: 25
                        Sadly

                        Normal
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                        37,8 rating points for the post and the marshal two years later show that you are not someone you do not need and your opinion is not interested in normal people, and you are supported only by your friends
                      15. 0
                        24 August 2014 23: 02
                        Quote: herruvim
                        37,8 points rating for post and marshal two years later

                        Well, first of all, you are the marshal with us, but I only have marshall cardboards.
                        Secondly, not in two years, but in one and a half.
                        In the third, 37,8 rating points for the post say that I do not pursue the rating, I do not deceive and say what I think is necessary, despite the fact that someone does not like it. And my opinion is interesting not only to my good friends, but also to those who can not stand me.
                        Yes, there are plenty of enemies and opponents on the site.
                        But if you haven’t made enemies in two months, then you’re a worthless, unnecessary person whose hollow mouth is like dirt, empty slogans and banal statements that are gladly supported and added by people like you, there is never a lack of dullness.
                      16. 0
                        25 August 2014 01: 15
                        Secondly, not in two years, but in one and a half.


                        Not only are you a little aggressive (I don’t give a damn, everyone cannot like my posts), but you can’t take it either:

                        Date of visit: August 24, 2014 16:24
                        Registration Date: 18 August 2012 12: 53

                        2 YEARS AND 4 DAYS HAPPENED FROM THE DAY OF YOUR REGISTRATION

                        I am not chasing a rating, I don’t bend my heart and say what I think is necessary, despite the fact that someone doesn’t like it and calmly prove my point of view, and I don’t consider myself to be someone special. Take off the crown comrade "Normal" and get off to us sinners on earth, and you will understand that you have enemies not because of your intellect and not because of your posts, but because of your pride (excessive arrogance) and because of your selfishness (behavior entirely determined by the thought of your own benefit, benefit, when the individual puts his own interests above the interests of others).
                      17. -1
                        25 August 2014 12: 57
                        Quote: herruvim
                        You can verify the spelling of the name of a state in the most accurate of all directories, ...

                        In order to make sure how they speak Russian, one does not have to go into the directories. Language - it is lively and the native speaker is the people, not a guide.
                        The bureaucracy, bureaucratic newspeak and the imposition of an alien pronunciation in favor of the political interests of the power elite rejects the national language.
                        No one says: (does not even write) "I will go to BELARUS", "I returned from BELARUSI."
                        Everyone says: "I will go to Belarus" AND "I returned from Belarus" and this does not change with any reference books.
                        It is possible to officially recognize or not to recognize the pronunciation of people as correct or incorrect as much as you like, but over time it becomes clear that it is the popular version that is true.

                        And finally, for those in a particularly crazy tank
                        Quote: herruvim

                        Quote: Normal
                        Secondly, not in two years, but in one and a half.


                        Not only are you a little aggressive (I don’t give a damn, everyone cannot like my posts), but you can’t take it either:

                        Date of visit: August 24, 2014 16:24
                        Registration Date: 18 August 2012 12: 53

                        2 YEARS AND 4 DAYS HAPPENED FROM THE DAY OF YOUR REGISTRATION


                        My very gifted, narcissistic, self-confident and narrow-minded friend.
                        It’s not enough to be able to count, you need to know what to count.
                        You calculated the period of my registration on the site. Thank you very much, I would not have guessed to do it myself.
                        However, it was a different matter.

                        stalkerwalker (4) February 15 2014 01: 37 ↑
                        Quote: Normal

                        Although I have never carried any of the professional athletes "on my hands", I will say: they have the right! Especially after such "pretzels". An athlete (especially of the highest articles) exists for the fan, oddly enough.

                        1: 1 Will arrange such an account?
                        Congratulations on marshall epaulettes
                      18. 0
                        23 August 2014 23: 00
                        Quote: herruvim
                        Do not make yourself an idol.


                        Do not carry to yourself?
                        Quote: herruvim
                        What Putin did for Russia: ...



                        Quote: herruvim
                        , I have been summarized statistics of what Russia has achieved since 2002


                        You have given POWERFUL statistics, which exist solely to glorify the successes of GDP and never and never take into account its failures and the results of its anti-people oligarchic-capitalist policies.

                        In addition, as you know, there is truth, there is a lie, but there are statistics

                        Quote: herruvim
                        Come to live and work for us in Belarus, maybe then you will understand that your situation is not so bad.

                        What about Belarus? It is possible to Ukraine, to Moldova or Tajikistan. Against their background, we have everything in paradise.
                      19. +1
                        24 August 2014 21: 39
                        What about Belarus? It is possible to Ukraine, to Moldova or Tajikistan. Against their background, we have everything in paradise.


                        So what is the problem, do not want to live in paradise, welcome to Ukraine, Moldova or Tajikistan
                      20. 0
                        23 August 2014 22: 53
                        Quote: DMB-88
                        Everything, I understand, you are hopeless ..........


                        "Do not throw pearls in front of pigs"

                        Gospels of Matthew (chap. 7, v. 6)


                        Tovarisch is just in the service. Recently, the site has become so popular that it inevitably attracted the attention of power structures of the corresponding profile.
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                      22. +1
                        25 August 2014 02: 05
                        "Do not throw pearls in front of pigs"
                        Gospels of Matthew (chap. 7, v. 6)


                        To be more precise:

                        Do not give the shrine to the dogs and do not throw your pearls before the pigs, so that they do not trample it under their feet and, turning, do not tear you to pieces. “The Bible Matthew 7: 6”

                        For the advice, thank you, really why enter into polemics with you and those like you: "To use such weighty arguments, speaking with these empty-headed youths, would mean throwing pearls in front of pigs. Leave them better to your own ignorance and all their filthy, vile vices . " “Great books of great people: in 3. t. / Chesterfield, F. D. S. Vol. 2: Letters to the Son "
                  2. 0
                    23 August 2014 00: 29
                    DMB-88 ... You are a liar, and I caught you by the hand, and for this they beat me in a decent company at the m.o.s. !!! angry
                    change your nickname you are not a cherub - YOU ARE WATER !!!!


                    Rude then for what?

                    Rudeness is the attempts of the weak to demonstrate strength.
                    Rudeness is an imitation of strength by a weak person.

                    Eric Hoffer
                    1. DMB-88
                      +1
                      23 August 2014 00: 56
                      Quote: herruvim
                      Rudeness is the attempts of the weak to demonstrate strength


                      The strength of one who has the TRUTH !!!

                      you can pick up a quote for any meanness or something, the Nazis also loved the quotes "To each his own", for example, well, live in a WORLD with quotes .. request
                      1. -1
                        23 August 2014 01: 41
                        I don’t want to persuade you, since you consider the current successes of Russia inside the country and in the political arena a BAD thing, then you are a true “patriot” of your Motherland. What do you propose to do to improve the situation in Russia, have any ideas?
                      2. DMB-88
                        +3
                        23 August 2014 02: 20
                        and if you are Belarus, what is the use of discussing the situation in Russia with you?

                        Interesting, but you can be for Strelkova. For New Russia. For the DNI. For Gubarev. For Russia. For the Russians. But against Putin ?! Or when you say Putin, do you mean Russia, when you say Russia, do you mean Putin ?! And whoever is against, he is not a patriot or that crest ?! Then how do you differ from Svidomo ?! When I say Putin, I mean Putin, oligarchs, lies, cuts, corruption, poverty, betrayal, intrigues, clans, Medvedev, Surkov, Shuvalov, Sechin, Dvorkovich, Vekselberg, Timchenko, Rotenberg, etc. (the list goes on). To save Russia, you need to get rid of this, because THEY are not RUSSIA! Do you really consider yourself, your friends, countrymen, Russians without Putin to be worthless, incapable of cattle ?!
                        and how do you imagine the capitalist Putin chose the socialist path of development ?!
                        Do not flatter yourself, the counter-revolution has now triumphed and 25 years robbing the country mercilessly!
                        But whether the revolution will be from below, from above, Socialism will triumph, such is the dialectic of development!
                  3. +2
                    23 August 2014 01: 39
                    Quote: DMB-88
                    You are a liar, and I caught you by the hand, and for this they beat me in a decent company at the m.o.s. !!

                    Purchasing power is considered, not the sum of money. There is no arguing that salaries and pensions have increased significantly.
              2. +3
                23 August 2014 01: 12
                Quote: DMB-88
                Yesaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ...


                What was that? Post-alcohol attack?
            3. +3
              22 August 2014 23: 21
              What Putin did for Russia

              that's better?
              Russian successes

              And the role of personality in history is canceled? Is everything done in Russia?
              What are the successes of Russia under Gorbachev, under Yeltsin?
            4. nvv
              nvv
              +2
              23 August 2014 03: 45
              That's right, Epithet, so them in the faces, in numbers.
          4. +15
            22 August 2014 20: 09
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            P.S. By the way, the author is largely right, and the article, although superficial, is sensible.

            That's right - right! Oligarchic capitalism - loss of sovereignty. It is not enough just to jail and shoot the oligarchs. Even - with confiscation. New ones are formed like boils on an unwashed body. Structural changes in the economy are needed. And the article is not "superficial", but short. - Only theses. The author understands what he is talking about ...
          5. bda
            bda
            +5
            23 August 2014 13: 24
            Gentlemen!
            It’s not about what and who did good in our country!
            And not about whether pensioners rummage in garbage bins, or not rummage!
            We have a great country! Great people! And many great achievements!
            And pensioners live, while, unfortunately, not as we would like!
            The question is different: our Great Russia is challenged!
            It is impossible to adequately answer it if you just sit still and admire the great accomplishments of your ancestors / as well as your accomplishments and the accomplishments of your President /.
            Moreover, it is impossible if you sit and water yourself and your ancestors with mud!
            In order to answer the challenge and not only survive, but also to benefit for yourself, you need to move, incl. and to become even stronger.
            The question is: And where to? Where should we go and how?
            the question of a new mobilization (its ideology, drive belts, human resources) is the main issue on the agenda of the problem of the historical revival of Russia.

            Again and again the question arises about ideology!
            Which so far, unfortunately not! (who does not believe - can read our Constitution)
            But only a common ideology based on our common roots could unite a large part of the people (eagain, it is important - the ideology that originates in our roots, and not sucked out of the finger by various clever people, and not copied from somewhere "over the hill")!
            To unite and become a constructive basis for building all aspects of the life of our society! (I want to remind you: the word "society" it is from the word "common"! )
            Without working out their common core values we will always be only an appendage (it doesn’t even matter - for the East or for the West).
            This is what we are talking about!
            1. DMB-88
              +3
              23 August 2014 13: 56
              Quote: bda
              Again and again the question arises about ideology!
              Which so far, unfortunately not! (who does not believe - can read our Constitution)


              There is no ideology in the constitution, but in fact the mach of the liberal ideology is flourishing.
              And one more change of ideology or, in general, its formation will immediately lead to a change in the socio-political system, and this is not included in the plans of the authorities ....
              1. +3
                23 August 2014 15: 54
                There is no ideology in the constitution, but in fact the mach of the liberal ideology is flourishing.
                Absolutely true. This terry liberalism has long been necessary for scrap.
          6. +3
            23 August 2014 15: 26
            I do not argue, Putin saved Russia from collapse. But the country also needs to be developed.
            Do not follow the path of least resistance, giving the market to a foreign investor, instead of costing plants from the state.
            It is impossible to build a self-sufficient economy in a "free market". Only Gosplan and Stalin with his team could cope with such a task.


            Furthermore. In order for Russia to become a "great power", an alternative civilizational project is needed, as the author of the article is talking about.

            It is not and will not be at the Russian Federation OJSC, because capitalism and liberalism are always mediocrity and repetition of the Western model.

            By the way, rams called "consumers" are happy with this. They can buy the best from Europe and vote for Putin because he gives them that opportunity.

            Patriotism in the Russian Federation has died out, falsehood and commercialism are everywhere.
        2. DMB-88
          +11
          22 August 2014 18: 55
          Your campaigns on the great affairs of GDP are shattered in 2 minutes.
          1) Russia's budget has increased due to increased oil and gas prices (with 1/2 of the budget being cut into the pockets of officials)
          2) The reserves are held in the form of US securities, the currency in foreign banks, thereby supporting the economy of the West!
          3) About the bowels is your fabrication! Etc.

          And now the truth:

          1 Housing and communal services tariffs raised from 2002 to 2014 by 200%
          2 energy carriers at 250%
          3Products went up immeasurably
          4 the export of capital amounted to 750 lard (this is for the Central Bank and actually multiply by 3)
          5export of grain is carried out to the detriment of its own state and population
          6 people dying out due to lack of normal free medicine
          7 total debt for 2014 seridine is 580 lard
          8 paid education
          9 paid medicine

          even tired of listing, comrades will add!
          1. -2
            22 August 2014 19: 15
            If fully paid general education is introduced in Russia, it will slide to the level of third-rate countries, said Russian President Vladimir Putin

            Putin: Russia will not switch from free to paid medicine
            According to the head of state, more than a third of Russians are not satisfied with the level of medicine in the country. Many do not even go to the hospital, because they know that they will not be helped there. The president demanded a complete list of free services that should be provided to Russians. Moreover, he added, it is necessary to create clear instructions on how and in what order these services can be provided.

            In 2014, it was decided that housing and communal services tariffs will be indexed with an index of 0,7 to annual inflation by the end of 2013 - 6,5%, in the future tariffs should increase as a measure of inflation. With the valuation of housing and communal services over the past 10 years, the following: it decreased by 1,9 times and amounted to 61,5 trillion rubles. The main factor that predetermined such a result is a decrease in forecast expectations.

            As a result of a sharp drop in external debt and the rapid growth of the Russian economy compared to other countries, Russia is gradually turning into a creditor country. So, in 2011 Cyprus received a loan from Russia in the amount of 2,5 billion euros for 4,5 years at 4,5% per annum, while European countries refused to provide a loan at less than 15% per annum. In 2008, Russia provided a loan of Iceland in the amount of 4 billion euros (according to other sources, the loan was refused). In August 2007, Russia turned into a holder of debt instruments of the US government, etc. For five years, Russia's share in this market has grown from 0% to 3%. Russia ranked eighth in the ranking of US government debt holders, according to Finance magazine. As of June 30, 2012, the United States owed Russia 2,98% of its total public debt, or $ 157,8 billion.

            Then dig yourself
            1. DMB-88
              +8
              22 August 2014 19: 56
              Quote: herruvim
              Then dig yourself

              What do you suggest rummaging, I honestly rummage to disdain))) lol

              Quote: herruvim
              According to the head of state

              That's it, that "in words", but people are interested in things! My rent payments have been preserved (pedant's wife) for 2001, etc. years, and in your opinion, I should believe words or eyes and, in the end, a calculator!
              I don’t want to take away your holy faith in the president, but you wrote and didn’t think that FULLY paid education will be introduced, the key word is recognition of the availability of paid education, the picture is the same with medetsina: you have to wait for months for 2 months in turn, for free and for money please urgently!
              Those. the poor are denied education and medicine !!!
              You at least do not deny the obvious!
              And this manipulation of numbers and the substitution of concepts infuriates for 23 years.
              Even if you post these figures several times a day like a mantra, gasoline at gas stations will not fall in price, and prices in stores will climb and climb up, and prices in housing and communal services will not decrease and the industry will not work, I have a real and not a screwdriver with the number of employees up to 1000 people Y. I believe in life, I believe in my eyes, and I don’t believe your numbers, I'm sorry !!! hi
            2. +11
              22 August 2014 19: 59
              Quote: herruvim
              If fully paid general education is introduced in Russia, it will slide to the level of third-rate countries, said Russian President Vladimir Putin
              Putin: Russia will not switch from free to paid medicine
              If education did not go far, then medicine has long been paid for. I don’t need to speak for utilities, I myself work in utilities - a swamp, with the appearance of control.
              Quote: herruvim
              In 2008, Russia provided a loan of Iceland in the amount of 4 billion euros
              Of course, there is nowhere to put money inside the country. Now, if Russia bought the means of production with this money, and leased them to people at a low interest rate, maybe production would stir. Do you know how much a lease harvester costs now? Russian Agricultural Bank only in advertising such a chocolate.
              Quote: herruvim
              . As of June 30, 2012, the United States owed Russia 2,98% of its total public debt, or $ 157,8 billion.
              Judging by the debts, they should kiss us in the ass, and they strive to do us dirty tricks. Can you tell me where such ingratitude comes from?
      2. 0
        22 August 2014 19: 58
        But there is nothing wrong with that! Everyone should know and remember this ....
      3. DMB-88
        +12
        22 August 2014 20: 02
        Quote: DMB-88
        Quote: herruvim
        What Putin did for Russia:

        What are you doing the same thing? Harosh troll !!!


        IT, for which at least these minuses can one thread explain?
        Check the second day post the same thing, but Mlyn, insanity really gets stronger wassat

        yes, you already have your own "-" I killed Vinnie - Pooh !!! wassat
      4. VAF
        VAF
        +1
        22 August 2014 22: 21
        Quote: DMB-88
        What are you doing the same thing? Harosh troll !!!


        Why are you so pounced on the "loyal subject"? lol +! drinks
        "Man" "honestly fulfills" his 83 rubles per comment wassat
        1. DMB-88
          +2
          22 August 2014 22: 25
          Quote: vaf
          The person "honestly fulfills" his 83 rubles per comment


          Here’s a worker h..r..e..n..o..v .. !!)) THANKS for your support, I can’t laugh anymore, as the story about that tanker Mishka-1 was pooping, which was aimed at the target) )))) drinks laughing
          1. 0
            23 August 2014 00: 00
            Well, already swearing, aggression is not doing well.

            And the picture is a joke, and then suddenly you, with your lack of culture, completely lack a sense of humor
        2. -3
          22 August 2014 23: 44
          vaf (2) Why are you so pounced on the "loyal subject"? lol +! drinks
          "Man" "honestly fulfills" his 83 rubles per comment wassat


          No, my income is connected with a completely different kind of activity, here I get pleasure from watching such "people" as you and DMB-88, who are drooling, but in the case - zero
        3. +2
          23 August 2014 01: 48
          Quote: vaf
          "Man" "honestly fulfills" his 83 rubles per comment

          vaf, and why, immediately fulfills. If a person has his own opinion different from yours or anyone else, then he immediately earns. So we have the opposition, sitting on grants and does not hide it. It turns out that everyone who criticizes the GDP is also paid?
          I, now also criticize GDP, but mainly in New Russia, and I will support it in something else. It turns out that they both pay? Maybe someone tell me where the check is written out? smile
      5. 0
        23 August 2014 22: 28
        Quote: DMB-88
        Quote: herruvim

        What Putin did for Russia:
        What are you doing the same thing? Harosh troll !!!


        Beat the enemy with his own weapons!

        What Putin did for Russia:


        It also carries out reforms in education (USE) and health care (the transformation of health care into commercial medicine)

        raised industry


        Which industry specifically and numbers please.

        and agriculture (Russia for 5 consecutive years, ranks 2-3rd in the world in grain exports, ahead of the United States, which is now in 4th place).


        Who owns the largest agricultural holdings for grain production and who has the right to land used by these agricultural holdings?

        Putin (he) reduced the extinction of the Russian population from 1,5 million people a year in 1999 to 21 thousand in 2011, i.e. 71,5 times.


        How did Putin (exactly) "reduce extinction"?
        By means of statistical tricks and with the help of mass importation of migrants from Middle Asia and granting them Russian citizenship.

        He stopped the war in Chechnya.


        Reconciled with the worst enemies of the Russians and actually paying tribute to Chechnya.

        repaid a huge foreign debt, about 400 billion dollars


        What a fine fellow! Instead of spending this money on the development of their country. Creditors would wait, no matter where they went.

        Held the best ever winning Olympics

        And who now in the light of recent events cares?
        Well, he returned the Crimea ...


        There would be no Maidan - there would be no Crimea. Or is Maidan Putin too?
        And also:
        Quote: saag

        Quote: herruvim
        nationalized

        Remind me when it was, I still haven’t heard the words nationalization from the lips of statesmen.
    2. +3
      22 August 2014 18: 29
      Alexander III rested on a weekend in the park and fished when he was informed that ambassadors of European powers seek his audience without prior agreement. To this the Tsar responded with this famous phrase that was transmitted to the ambassadors. - Europe will wait for the Russian Tsar to fish

      Do not freely feel pride in such politicians
    3. +1
      22 August 2014 19: 05
      Quote: herruvim
      This is just an alternative value project
      You got excited about alternativeness. All designated values ​​are present in the US project. In addition, here they are known as Khrushchev's "catch up and overtake." 6th to 5th, 5th to 7th, etc. we will be the first to breathe in the ass.
    4. +5
      22 August 2014 19: 13
      Quote: herruvim
      This is just an alternative value project, everything for Russia
      What Putin did for Russia ...

      It is evident that you did not understand anything from the article, you have never read "The State and Revolution", you have never crossed paths with socio-philosophical scientific analytics, but only really, like a gramophone, play one and the same disc.
      1. 0
        22 August 2014 19: 39
        I don’t play up, but I defend my point of view and do not go down to insults, like some who think of themselves as a navel of the earth, learn to argue at least with Ingvar 72, the person put everything on the shelves and expressed his opinion, unlike you, who adheres to the rule: There is my opinion and the wrong . Success in your difficult life.
        1. DMB-88
          +5
          22 August 2014 20: 23
          Quote: herruvim
          but I defend my point of view and do not go down to insults, like some who think of themselves as a navel of the earth, learn to argue at least with Ingvar 72, the person put everything on the shelves and expressed his opinion, unlike you, who adheres to the rule: There is my opinion and the wrong

          Are you listening to what they say to you? For you the second day, many people put everything "on the shelves"!
          Start reading the primary sources "Capital" now even the Anglicos are studying, well, I'm not talking about Lenin and Stalin, these are the antagonists of your world order !!! And VVP Well done, you need to rinse your brains to such an extent, black and white, and white and black! A real shaman, hockey player, savior of tigers, amphora finder, Siberian Crane commander, fire fighter, macho, owner of 125 dan all over, silvery guy and shirt guy, everything is ... uh ... tired drinks
          1. -4
            22 August 2014 20: 55
            Do you listen to what they say to you? For the second day, many people put everything "on the shelves"!
            Start reading the primary sources "Capital" now even the Anglicos are studying, well, I am silent about Lenin and Stalin, these are the antagonists of your world order !!!


            A fool can be recognized by two signs: he talks a lot about things that are useless to him, and speaks out about what he is not asked.

            Plato
            1. DMB-88
              -1
              22 August 2014 22: 29
              Quote: herruvim
              A fool can be recognized by two signs: he talks a lot about things that are useless to him, and speaks out about what he is not asked.

              tya finally about GDP in this thread, who asked the thread?
              all ,... bully tired of drinks
    5. +13
      22 August 2014 19: 32
      Putin's biggest flaw is that he holds the chairman of the government of Medvedev.
      1. -2
        22 August 2014 20: 05
        I hope that he does not have long!
        1. +4
          23 August 2014 01: 20
          Who do you mean? If Putin, then it does not depend on you.
      2. 0
        23 August 2014 16: 01
        Putin's biggest flaw is that he holds the chairman of the government of Medvedev.
        No, the biggest flaw is that he did not hang Chubais.
    6. +6
      22 August 2014 19: 40
      the question of a new mobilization (its ideology, drive belts, human resources) is the main issue on the agenda of the problem of the historical revival of Russia - the correct formulation of the question ...
    7. +11
      22 August 2014 19: 46
      Quote: herruvim
      • raised industry and agriculture (for 5 consecutive years Russia has been taking the 2nd-3rd place in the world in grain export, overtaking the United States, which is now in 4th place).
      - lol I beg of you...! do not make me laugh !!! agriculture in F, and industry even deeper! You really do not leave the apartment? and really outside the city? half the country wasteland! peasants just rejoiced in sanctions! maybe a little agriculture will come to life! potatoes in the Urals in the store -Norway and Egypt, radish-Israel, carrots-Israel ... Putin does not know ??? do not make me laugh ! yes glory to Obama for his sanctions !!! I sat down such a decline, I do not remember !!! about industry, a separate and impartial topic ...
      1. +1
        22 August 2014 23: 09
        I beg of you...! do not make me laugh !!! agriculture in F, and industry even deeper

        This is it now in "F", but it was even deeper, it slowly climbs out. You can see from your district that those who actually worked in Soviet times are still working, and those collective farms (state farms) that constantly existed on subsidies (constantly new equipment and other assistance) were finished off by capitalism.
        1. +2
          23 August 2014 07: 26
          For those who set a minus, I will give a simple example, we had the Aleksandrovsky state farm in Soviet times, and he was constantly in Zh, an asphalt road was built there, comfortable cottages were provided to all residents, and new equipment was piled up there (even imported), I don’t want to ! And there was a state farm in the village of Raslovo (now a closed joint-stock company), so they didn’t provide the equipment - earn and buy it yourself when it comes to you, and they worked and bought and built housing themselves. Bottom line: in Aleksandrov, the state farm collapsed almost simultaneously with the Soviet Union, and in Raslov it still works despite all the events that have taken place in the country over the past 23 years.
      2. +2
        23 August 2014 01: 55
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        I beg of you...! do not make me laugh !!! agriculture in F, and industry even deeper!

        In comparison with what, with the years of the USSR or with the end of the EBN era?
        Comparing 2000 and 2014, the difference is obvious, for the better ...
    8. +8
      22 August 2014 20: 44
      They got Putin with their cult.
    9. +5
      22 August 2014 23: 18
      Quote: herruvim
      Well, he returned the Crimea ....

      Only with Novorossiys, it was somehow blown away, although he said a lot of things ...
    10. +3
      23 August 2014 00: 39
      All this is good, but so far Putin has done the bare minimum necessary under the colonial system nurtured under Yeltsin. The main essence of which is in the first chapters of the constitution, where the supremacy of international law usurped by the USA is higher than the legislation of Russia itself and where the national bank is subordinate to the IMF and the IB.
    11. +5
      23 August 2014 01: 19
      What Putin did for Russia:
      • Over 12 years, Putin increased Russia's budget by 22 times, military spending - 30 times, GDP - 12 times (Russia jumped from 36th place in the world in terms of GDP to 6th place),
      • Increased gold and currency reserves by 48 times!
      • returned 256 mineral deposits to the Russian jurisdiction (it remains to ... turn 3!).
      • tore apart the most enslaving “liberal” in the history of production sharing agreements.
      • nationalized 65% of the oil industry and 95% of the gas and many other industries.
      • raised industry and agriculture (for 5 consecutive years Russia has been taking the 2nd-3rd place in the world in grain export, overtaking the United States, which is now in 4th place).
      • increased average salaries in the public sector by 18,5 times over 12 years, and average pensions by 14 times.
      • Well, just a trifle: Putin (he) reduced the extinction of Russia's population from 1,5 million people a year in 1999 to 21 thousand in 2011, i.e. 71,5 times.
      • In addition, Putin canceled the Khasavyurt agreement - by which he defended the integrity of Russia, made public the 5th column of NGOs and forbade deputies to have accounts abroad, defended Syria, and stopped the war in Chechnya.
      repaid a huge foreign debt, about 400 billion dollars
      Held the best ever winning Olympics
      Well, he returned the Crimea ....
      No doubt, all of the above is very good. But where is the guarantee that after the death of Vladimir Putin, some EBN will not sell all these achievements for "a wheelbarrow, a summer cottage and a dog"? In the 90s, the corrupt leaders destroyed the USSR, and I don’t see what would prevent them from doing this trick with Russia, except for Vladimir Putin himself, but it will not last forever. It is necessary to create a stable political system in Russia so that no "Medvedev" could destroy the good that was achieved by such work. And the fact that it is easy with our Duma, I saw when we "steer" D.A. Medvedev. But he was under the supervision of Himself, and what will happen when this restraining factor disappears?
    12. vladsolo56
      +2
      23 August 2014 05: 42
      However, so far all of the above has not affected the everyday level. Prices are rising, taxes are offering to increase. I especially liked the point: Well, and quite a trifle: Putin (he) reduced the extinction of Russia's population from 1,5 million people a year in 1999 to 21 thousand in 2011, i.e. 71,5 times.
  2. DMB-88
    +8
    22 August 2014 18: 19
    Finally, it comes to understanding that the same system can not stand up to itself !!!
    1. +17
      22 August 2014 18: 34
      A destructive comment by Eduard Limonov on Makarevich ..
      http://izvestia.ru/news/575417
      "An aged man with a guitar causes me some disgust. A gray-haired person does not have the right to play the guitar. Even if he is tipsy ...
      A middle-aged, gray-haired by the name of Makarevich went to the city of Svyatogorsk and spoke there before the occupation forces. The fact that the occupying military were diluted with a certain amount of the occupied population does not reduce the severity of the deed .....
      And then this old fool came to speak to the punishers.

      In a normal situation, he would not be worth a word. But the mediocre pop musician, unfortunately, is known. Both in Ukraine and in Russia.

      We do not know how he lived to such a life. Maybe he has an andropause now.
      ... Makarevich insulted us all. He insulted by violating our unanimous condemnation of the criminal Kiev regime, bombarding the city with ballistic missiles, killing women, children, and the elderly every day.

      Makarevich could not cope with the time machine, and the time machine brought him to the wrong side of the front.
      ..and Makarevich’s bleating in response ..
      http://www.snob.ru/profile/5134/blog/79999





      .
      1. +7
        22 August 2014 18: 59
        Quote: 222222
        A middle-aged, gray-haired man by the name of Makarevich went to the city of Svyatogorsk and spoke there before the occupation forces. The fact that the occupying military were diluted with a certain amount of the occupied population does not reduce the severity of the deed ..... And so this old fool came to speak to the punishers.

        Already wrote that such ..... need to be deprived of citizenship. He spat in the soul of all Russians!
        1. +5
          22 August 2014 19: 49
          such ..... need to be deprived of citizenship. He spat in the soul of all Russians!


          Well, don’t have to be so harsh
          1. +3
            23 August 2014 01: 23
            Both horns are lacking, and the gene set is the same. bully
  3. +8
    22 August 2014 18: 20
    The model should be one: they are ready to be friends with everyone who is not our enemy, but to develop their own in the first place.
  4. 0
    22 August 2014 18: 20
    The main issue on the agenda of the historical revival of Russia

    We must rally and win - the struggle of opposites.
  5. +3
    22 August 2014 18: 21
    "In order for Russia to really become one of the poles of the world order, it first of all needs to be transformed internally, to abandon imitation in each of the spheres of life - economy, culture, science, education, social relations, to adopt a different, identical model of life." ...

    What? Imitation of what? To whom?

    Convert? Chubais also wants transformations. All and sundry began to give Russian advice.

    Who does nothing criticizes someone else's work.
    1. +2
      22 August 2014 18: 28
      you have to start with yourself, do not throw a cigarette butt past the urn, begin to observe public interests about the dangers and the wrong place of smoking. as they say ... it all starts with little things ... and then teach others and take positive from them!
      1. DMB-88
        +5
        22 August 2014 19: 01
        Quote: PTS-m
        you have to start with yourself, do not throw a cigarette butt past the urn, begin to observe public interests about the dangers and the wrong place of smoking. as they say ... it all starts with little things ... and then teach others and take positive from them!

        You about the socio-economic system, about the fact that "Being determines consciousness"!
        And you, like in a joke: "I'm quiet because it's in your pocket, and you are loud because, on my boot ...
        so start with yourself !!! laughing
      2. +5
        22 August 2014 19: 22
        Quote: PTS-m
        do not throw a cigarette past the urn
        Better yet, quit smoking, replace with a horizontal bar, a great, cold shower in the morning.
    2. +11
      22 August 2014 19: 02
      Quote: DEZINTO
      Imitation of what? To whom?
      Western structure of society. People are now being taught by all means that everyone owes them, that they need to invest in Forex, go to lunch instead of lunch, and go to the dacha on the weekend. We are being turned into a Western-style consumer society. This can be seen in many ways, even in how carelessly people cross the road on a zebra crossing. The self-preservation instinct for many is replaced by the absurd - "I must be let through!" Now many Ch.M.O.shniki will utter insults from three boxes, and then, having received a fair blow in the face, run with a statement to the authorities. It hurts to talk about the younger generation. This was not always the case. The mentality is changing, and is changing purposefully. It is necessary to return to the third option, to the society of the intra-oriented type.hi
      1. +1
        22 August 2014 19: 51
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        how carelessly people cross the road on a zebra. The self-preservation instinct for many is replaced by the absurd - "I must be let through!"


        According to the SDA, the vehicle must let a pedestrian pass at a pedestrian crossing, there is nothing absurd in this
        1. +12
          22 August 2014 20: 14
          Quote: saag
          there is nothing absurd in this
          And the pedestrian must make sure that the crossing is safe. For the same traffic rules. And we have a rod without looking, as if the head is stronger than the hood. Puffiness has replaced self-preservation with its own rights. I'm talking about that. People with normal brains (not formatted), passing the railway crossing, look right and left. And this is when the barrier is raised. God takes care of the saved, and the judge, who planted the offender, will not help the deceased. Our people do not understand this, it is not in vain that the "costumed" courts show them on all channels.
  6. 0
    22 August 2014 18: 22
    I don’t know whether Peter1 shared or not shared the values ​​of Karl X11, but Peter fought with Karl quite successfully, but what about the conflict between the USSR and the PRC on Domansky? And the war between China and Vietnam (1979), called the first war between the socialist states?
    The author is a banal demagogue.
    1. 0
      22 August 2014 23: 50
      Whoever doesn’t like my comment, please write why, maybe I’ll learn something new.
  7. -1
    22 August 2014 18: 22
    Russia does not need to be reborn, it was and will be, but it is necessary to strengthen itself, and we are all busy today, and let the enemies know who will come to us with the sword from the sword and find death, in general and in general, as at all times - they beat we are the enemy both on our territory and on it and we will beat until victory ....
    1. +9
      22 August 2014 19: 22
      Quote: mig31
      Russia does not need to be reborn, it was and will be, but it is necessary to strengthen itself, and we are all busy today, and let the enemies know who will come to us with the sword from the sword and find death, in general and in general, as at all times - they beat we are the enemy both on our territory and on it and we will beat until victory ....

      You would contract slogans on fences to write, instead of the Internet. Would become famous as folk
      1. +3
        22 August 2014 20: 27
        Quote: Polar
        You would contract slogans on fences to write, instead of the Internet. Would become famous as folk

        CLASS! WAS SO WASHED! :)))
      2. DMB-88
        0
        22 August 2014 22: 35
        Quote: Polar
        You would contract slogans on fences to write, instead of the Internet. Would become famous as folk


        there are enough of them, even though all in the eyes ........ dew!
        the main thing is blunted, v.s.se. produced and sleep, and that from that smell remained tovarischu is no longer inteoesno!))) fellow
  8. +3
    22 August 2014 18: 24
    Yes, the reincarnation of Grandfather Stalin would not hurt now.
    1. +3
      22 August 2014 21: 46
      Moreover, with all his comrades-in-arms: Lavreny Pavlovich Beria, Sudoplatov, Tuyam dogs, Rokossovsky! In principle, I do not include Zhukov - he betrayed Stalin's case because of his own grievances, for which he received "gratitude" from Khrushchev! Stalin, in addition to many of his other merits, knew how to competently form management, which in many respects led to those great achievements that we still use today! And who runs the country with Putin? Medvedev, Sechin, Gref, etc. With these, is it possible to raise something? Fortunately, there are still statists like Primakov, who literally saved Russia in 98.
  9. Password
    +6
    22 August 2014 18: 30
    Success in foreign policy is impossible without success in domestic politics. In order for Russia to really become one of the poles of the world order, it, first of all, needs to be transformed internally ...

    Russia should become a country attractive for life, with a developed economy and a high level of welfare of citizens.
    1. DMB-88
      +8
      22 August 2014 19: 04
      Russia should become a country attractive for life, with a developed economy and a high level of welfare of citizens. [/ Quote]
      We have achieved even excessive welfare of individual citizens !!!
  10. +4
    22 August 2014 18: 30
    Finns thank Putin for prices
    1. +4
      22 August 2014 18: 36
      Fin some kind of dark-skinned laughing
      1. +9
        22 August 2014 20: 39
        Quote: Stavros
        Fin some kind of dark-skinned

        As elsewhere in Europe, there is a crowding out of the indigenous ethnic group by migrants. Soon Europe will be called a caliphate.
        We also have something to think about. It's time to tighten migration policy.
        Well, for an example:
        1. bda
          bda
          0
          23 August 2014 14: 02
          Well, for an example:
          THEY CANNOT TIME to stop the migration and now live in reservations

          There is a more recent example: KOSOVO (the historical cradle of Serbia) - we only remember about it very, very rarely, including and after another battle in Biryulyovo, Kondopoga, somewhere in the Stavropol Territory, etc.
          But in vain! - You can’t forget about this, if only because there are enough enemies around us who want to turn us (even with whose hands) into a new Kosovo.
  11. +3
    22 August 2014 18: 33
    There is still No. 4 - the elimination of shit and the fifth column in the year 37, which we also need to do
  12. +7
    22 August 2014 18: 35
    I don't like Dorenko, I consider him a fallen woman, for the "art" of the 90s, but sometimes he says sensible things

    Now there is a watershed and the events in Ukraine clearly show who is friend and who is enemy. Who supports the militants-friend, who supports the junta-enemy.
    1. +1
      23 August 2014 06: 53
      Dorenko of course burns. This is clear.
      But Andrei Vadimovich seems to have a complex ...
      Antennae "under Salvador Dali"
      Narcologists and psychologists will comment.
    2. bda
      bda
      0
      23 August 2014 13: 53
      Now there is a watershed and the events in Ukraine clearly show who is friend and who is enemy. Who supports the militants-friend, who supports the junta-enemy.

      And everyone falls under this definition - rock pop-party, inhabitants of the Kremlin offices, and all the rest - regardless of past merits, number of singles, past folk love, etc.
  13. +8
    22 August 2014 18: 37
    "To fight the enemy, sharing the values ​​of the enemy, being similar to him, is seriously impossible."
    well said! + article author
    1. -8
      22 August 2014 18: 50
      did you even understand the meaning of these words.
    2. -9
      22 August 2014 19: 07
      Quote: alexdol
      To fight the enemy, sharing the values ​​of the enemy, being like him, is seriously impossible. "
      well said!

      Yes, yes, of course.
      For example, if it’s common for an enemy to brush his teeth, treat syphilis and fight pediculosis, then, in spite of the enemy, we should in no case do this.
      And you also need to make all the wheels square. In order not to be like an enemy.
      A very valuable thought.
      1. +10
        22 August 2014 19: 28
        Quote: Sour
        if the enemy has decided to brush their teeth, treat syphilis and fight pediculosis
        Why exaggerate? If you put a spoonful of honey in a barrel of gamna, it will not become tastier. Although there will be a whole spoon of honey! In the West, normal things and outright nastiness are put in one row. Separate flies and cutlets!
        1. -5
          22 August 2014 19: 35
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Why exaggerate?

          In addition to the author of the article and his fans, no one exaggerates here.
          Everyone decides for himself how he should live - for the benefit of himself and his country, or “to spite the enemy,” as the author and his fans suggest.
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          If you put a spoonful of honey in a barrel of gamna, it will not become tastier.

          You propose that a wise leader should decide for everyone what is considered gamna and what is honey? And in my opinion, this morality is "gamna", and the most rotten. And the supporters of this morality are the nastiest "5th Column", which must be put to the root. We will figure it out ourselves, without a clue, how to live and what is considered a priority. The last word belongs to the people, not the Baghdasari people.
          1. +11
            22 August 2014 19: 48
            Quote: Sour
            The last word is for the people, not for the Baghdasarians.
            I consider myself a nationalist, in the good sense of the word. But over the past century, the Russian people have brought the most benefit to the Georgians.
            Quote: Sour
            nobody is exaggerating here.
            Listing the fight against syphilis, caries and lice, you are exaggerating. No one talks about the rejection of the elementary benefits of civilization, the conversation that we should abandon the blind copying of lifestyle. We are losing cultural identity. hi
            1. -5
              22 August 2014 19: 55
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              But over the past century, the Russian people have brought the most benefit to the Georgians.

              This is your personal opinion.
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              that you should abandon blind copying of lifestyle.

              Live as you like, no one bothers you or points you. But do not impose anything on others. You can build yourself a hut and walk in rags. Just why should everyone follow your example? You don’t take much on yourself?
              1. +11
                22 August 2014 20: 23
                Quote: Sour
                Live as you like, no one bothers you or points you.
                Indicate. Not directly. Education, mass media, substitution of cultural values ​​- all this is a "pointer" on how to live. Read Kara-Murza "manipulation of consciousness", it explains a lot. hi

                Quote: Sour
                You don’t take much on yourself?
                Always correctly estimated the weight of opponents! laughing
                1. +11
                  22 August 2014 20: 31
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Education

                  Yeah, Minister of Education Fursenko made a notable note, saying that now a competent consumer is required, an unobtrusive such indication
        2. +1
          23 August 2014 09: 20
          Ingvar 72 (1) RU "Why exaggerate? ...."
          ---------------------------------------------
          Thank you, Igor, but in vain you entered into a polemic with these "sour" v245721! Their answers fully showed that they have big problems with their BRAINS! If they are still young, then one can hope that they will grow wiser with age ...
          1. Starmos
            +3
            23 August 2014 13: 18
            It is foolish to hope ... It's sad. Teletubbies, Pokemon, Sesame Street, Pepsi, Coca, McDonald's - this generation is ready to cut our throats for their "values", scoops. They are also "maydanutye" in their own way ...
  14. +4
    22 August 2014 18: 52
    What does "make peace with the West" mean? This is with the west that states lick ass ... t? One must love and respect oneself, and not watch what someone says.
  15. +1
    22 August 2014 18: 57
    another order of the Russian oligarchy. we don’t like Putin’s policy, since it began to prevent them from stealing and living luxuriously at the expense of the people. I like the politics of Judas: Gorbachev and Yeltsin.
  16. -4
    22 August 2014 19: 00
    Is this not the Baghdasaryan who defended his dissertation on history at the Russian State University of Tourism and Service? In which about history as a science and have not heard?
    And there, the government criticizes and has the audacity to give advice.
    1. +1
      22 August 2014 21: 02
      Quote: EvilCat
      Author Vardan Baghdasaryan

      Apparently that.
      Vardan Ernestovich Baghdasaryan
      In 1993 he graduated from the History Department of the Moscow Regional Pedagogical Institute.
      In 1996, at the State Academy of Life and Services
      In 2000, at the Moscow State University of Service, he defended his thesis for the degree of candidate of historical sciences “Conspiracy Theory” in Russian historiography of the second half of the XNUMXth – XNUMXth centuries: criticism of the mythologization of history ”.
      Since 2011 - Professor, Department of Public Policy, Faculty of Political Science, Moscow State University named after M.V. Lomonosov.
  17. Maksim...
    +1
    22 August 2014 19: 10
    What a crazy name? And if the opponent considers the right to life - a value?
    1. +7
      22 August 2014 19: 45
      Quote: Maxim ...
      And if the opponent considers the right to life - a value?
      The question of the value model of society does not imply the replacement of hostile values ​​with opposite ones. This is a hierarchy in which some values ​​are subordinate to others. Say, during Stalin, the value of material well-being was subordinated to the value of social justice, today the phrase social justice causes a grin, and mate. needs often go wild.
      1. -6
        22 August 2014 19: 52
        Quote: Stanislav
        today the phrase social justice causes a grin

        Everyone understands social justice differently.
        It’s fair for someone to earn as much as you can, and to live a normal life.
        And for another it is fair when no one lives better than him.
        Nobody imposes on you their notions of justice. If you want to live in poverty - live, it is your choice. But do not force others. And don't call your envy of more successful people "patriotism" and "a sense of justice." It's just rotten envy - the vilest of human feelings.
        1. 0
          23 August 2014 20: 23
          Quote: Sour
          Everyone understands social justice differently.
          And everyone understands wealth differently, and everything else. This is probably poverty for you, but enough for me. And envy ... If you do not understand justice other than envy, then you certainly will not envy.
  18. 0
    22 August 2014 19: 29
    I agree that the article is very superficial. But maybe this is not the main thing, in my opinion, for Us (Russia), the 3rd option is the most optimal, but I think the oligarchic elites will either survive in the country and bring benefits to it, or they will go west or wherever.
  19. attentive reader
    -6
    22 August 2014 19: 41
    Quote: DMB-88
    What are you doing the same thing? Harosh troll !!!

    and what do you want to say against? angry
    1. DMB-88
      +3
      22 August 2014 22: 42
      Quote: attentive reader
      and what do you want to say against?


      And tell you, don’t say ...., then about peas ..... fool
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  21. +4
    22 August 2014 19: 54
    Putin is not the best guy in our "beau monde". But damn it! He made me proud of my country!
    1. +6
      22 August 2014 21: 23
      And I was always proud. And under Brezhnev and others. Is always! It was only under Yeltsin that my Motherland was broken through a knee, and now they are cunningly stalled.
      1. +2
        22 August 2014 23: 11
        Quote: Gardamir
        and now they’re stalling by cunning.

        I wanted to put a plus, but the last phrase! I am Russian, Russian, far from Muscovite and I support my President!
  22. 0
    22 August 2014 20: 59
    I strongly disagree with the title of the article. More precisely with his perception. In the fight against the enemy, sharing his values ​​with him is completely unnecessary. After the victory, it is better to take them yourself. This will be a war trophy.
  23. +8
    22 August 2014 21: 13
    I agree with the author of the article - a state without its own ideology is whether it wants to or not a vassal of another state, which imposes its ideology on others by force. Russia's acceptance of Western ideology leads it, ultimately, to a civilizational pit, to the extinction of the population (it was already taking place in the 90s, when the moral principles of socialism were lost). A bunch of pro-Western managers can only sell out all the country's natural resources to the end, and they can develop they do not want and will not be! They will suck and throw away as unnecessary. The rise of Russia is a temporary phenomenon, because the country follows the path indicated by the hostile West. He needs Russia as a sales outlet for his products and as a supplier of cheap raw materials, and only !!!
  24. Marisat
    -1
    22 August 2014 22: 25
    You write nonsense.
    What are the universal human values ​​in the world, what "new" policy did the Bolsheviks have?
    To live in the World and to be yourself, not to puppet. Remain true to your roots, defend them without denying the right to have an opinion (this is not about Makarevich, he doesn’t have an opinion, but conceit).
    To be free, understanding that freedom is primarily a responsibility.
    And do not confuse the national idea with the national economy and industry.
    And in my opinion, Putin already drives the state idea to us all at the subcortex level.
    "Be strong, smart, fair and steady"
    It seems to me that this is the red line in all his programmatic speeches. Not on his forehead should he write it.
    1. +4
      22 August 2014 22: 45
      You have cereal in my head.
  25. +3
    22 August 2014 22: 43
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    I understand that the cherubim's habitat is heaven, but on earth a little differently.

    And also a private bathhouse with a pool, but he doesn’t invite us there, and judging by the picture he sends to a public ..
  26. +3
    22 August 2014 22: 48
    I read the comments. Sad It’s like, not stupid people in ranks, but dogs, like ... The same censor, only without a mat.

    The author said well-known truths, stuck to Lenin’s grandfather - he got a scintillating little article - he squeezed, it seemed, as if alive. Yes and ... someone with him.

    The question is that the events of the 90s were accomplished and it is possible and necessary to look for the guilty, but only for the edification of posterity.

    Now about the descendants. We have already lost at least a generation (born in the 80s). They grew up, to hell knows what kind of mess of socialism, rabid capitalism and banal robbery. Without an idea and without guidelines, with disoriented parents who understood, but did not know and could not (everything is executed at the highest level.). Now they are over thirty and they are building our tomorrow. How do they build? And what will be built next?

    Those born in the 80s have their own children. Whom did they bring up? And we already have about 10 million. "Finished" children of the exam. Children who are weaned to think, adding to this stake, chips and house-2. What is it like?

    You can scold Putin, but you must give him his due. He inherited the country - they put more beautiful in a coffin. And he had to play by the rules of others. The current sanctions of the West are yet another bump in which it will be checked whether Russia has a character and soul.

    You can talk a lot. But the army and navy are rising. Our Crimea. We’ll survive the sanctions if we don’t slide into chatter and do what we need where we are. And we have not lost the Russian people’s soul yet.
    1. DMB-88
      +5
      22 August 2014 23: 36
      Quote: GrBear
      And we have not lost the Russian people’s soul yet.


      It’s just disgusting from the fact that in this very Soul that We have not lost, the authorities continue to cynically spit !!!

      per position, you "+"
  27. +4
    22 August 2014 23: 26
    Conducted a social experiment.

    I typed in Yandex the phrase: "Makarevich w ... d p .... y" (censorship).

    58 thousand answers! Vox populi- vox dei ...
  28. +3
    23 August 2014 00: 14
    If the elite is the fifth column in our country, then such an elite must be driven out of the country. Their money is not stored in Russia, but in foreign accounts. Only he can be called an elite who first thinks about his homeland, and then about himself (as in a famous Soviet song), and the Morozovs, Demidovs, Tretyakovs, Alekseevs and other worthy representatives of the Russian nation and its elite can serve as an example. Therefore, for us the most worthy option is the third without any compromises.
  29. +5
    23 August 2014 05: 45
    The average pension in 2000 was about 3 thousand rubles, now the average pension is 10 thousand rubles. that is, by no means dozens of times. Of course, there are categories of pensioners to whom pensions pay more than 20.000 rubles. These are police officers, prosecutors, judges, government officials, etc. What kind of nationalization can we talk about? All property and mineral resources are in private shops, oil and gas, and even more so. Even the police become a private office. For example, businessmen are standing with radars and video cameras on the roads. Private companies are now engaged in catching violators using radars. and then transmit the data to the police. Wife in 2000, worked as a nanny in a kindergarten. received about 3000 thousand. the last 2 years worked as the head of the kindergarten, a salary of 16 thousand.
  30. +2
    23 August 2014 06: 25
    And what? I liked the article. Clever.
  31. 0
    23 August 2014 07: 35
    What is happening now ... is comparable to the events of a hundred years ago.
    The West, without knowing it, gave Russia what it lacked for the last twenty years ... IDEA of the state.
    It was not easy to give her ... he made her do it.
  32. +2
    23 August 2014 10: 34
    The article is great. And the title is straight to the point. If someone does not understand, I explain: in the twenty-first century, external loads will be applied to our state and society, commensurate with the loads of the first half of the twentieth century, at the same time, we will have to eliminate the consequences of the twenty-year bourgeois-liberal "gulba" (we missed a lot), but this already internal difficulties, and after all, I have already said, there will be external ones.

    Before people living in reality, and not in fantasies, one question arises - how should the state and society be arranged so that it can withstand this terrible combination of external and internal loads and not collapse from them? As you like, but the only real option here would be the establishment of Soviet socialism, the creation of the USSR 2.0. All other options do not pass the strength test condition. Such is the "sopromat" looming.

    Of course, you can negotiate with the West (with the United States). But the fruits of this arrangement will be tasted by our criminal comprador (colonial) bourgeoisie, and our people will pay for it, up to physical death (in 1917 the question was similar, therefore, the Russian people, not wanting to die, chose socialism).

    The paths of our criminal comprador bourgeoisie and Putin diverge, the bourgeoisie goes along with the West, Putin remains with the Russian State. But the Russian State can continue to exist only in the format of Soviet socialism, therefore, Putin will gradually introduce Soviet socialist elements into the life of the state and society. They are already visible, here is the simplest thing: walk along any large operating enterprise in any city. What will you see? An alley of labor glory with portraits of advanced workers, and this is a socialist element.

    Will Putin find support in society for such actions? He will find, besides the bourgeoisie, in the Russian Federation there are still other people, and their majority, this majority can be relied on, and this is not "" (in the terminology of our bourgeois pseudo-elite). They themselves are a high-ranking hedonistic rich rabble that will be swept away by the hurricane of History. In 2012, Putin showed her in the form of a warning one Kholmanskys, but I know that in Russia there will now be a couple of million of the same Kholmanskys. The bourgeois crowd immediately called him a dark factory worker, but this is only in order to drive away a deep inner fear. After all, everyone understands that these hard workers produce a tank (or an aircraft), i.e. a product incomprehensible to the curchevel-brothel consciousness of our bourgeois. Kholmanskikh, by the way, is a major engineer.
    1. bda
      bda
      0
      23 August 2014 14: 28
      the only real option here would be the establishment of Soviet socialism, the creation of the USSR 2.0. All other options do not pass the strength test condition. Such is the "sopromat" looming.

      Did the USSR pass a strength test?
      When three drunks in Belovezhskaya Pushcha decided to destroy him, how many people were found who would stand up for him (for the USSR)?
      Who would marry him into the streets with guns in their hands? (despite the fact that almost the entire officer corps of all power structures we had communists?)
      Who decided to give his life for him?
      Once or twice such people were counted: Marshal S.F. Akhromeev, B.K. Pugo and V.I. Pugo, Army General V.I. Varennikov ...

      You can smear the word "junta" with mud for a long time, but, by the way, when in 1973 the well-known and well-born Freemason S. Allende, who is still beloved by many, brought the flourishing and fertile country of Chile to famine and civil war with his "socialist experiments" in the Chilean army there were many more "ideological patriots" that on September 11, 1973 they took to the streets with weapons in their hands, knowing full well that if everything fails today, tomorrow they will all be put up against the wall.
      They went out and defended their country, and did not sit in front of the TV and did not "scatter to their dachas, through the forests in search of mushrooms, and on fishing trips," so that later on the question "Where were you from 18 to 21 August 1991?" cheerfully answer: "I was on the streets of the devil. I didn’t know anything. I didn’t see anything. Otherwise I would wow! ... / depending on the context in which it is condemning the State Emergency Committee, or approving /”

      But the fact that the future belongs to the planned economy is almost a fait accompli - it is impossible not to see this, just as it is impossible not to see that this entire world oligarchic gang of Masons-bankers - who have neither a homeland nor a conscience, have already got everyone - all over the world, people can no longer calmly perceive this handful of "black international", imagining themselves "rulers of the universe" and trying to impose on everyone: what they have, what to watch, whom to listen to, how to love, etc.!
      The USSR, for the time being, tried to oppose this and did it successfully for a long time, but as soon as it began to flirt with all this shame - it was rather quickly broken from the inside - unfortunately, it did not have an antidote for scrapping from the inside!
  33. +1
    23 August 2014 17: 25
    The junta is the junta, a bunch of scoundrels and American lackeys. Before Allende's "socialist experiments", Chile was not a flourishing country, but an American semi-colony with the usual Latin American terrible mass poverty. Only the aristocratic colonial elite, which included the military caste, blossomed and smelled. Where did they get their military education? That's right, in "Karaganda". Only this "Karaganda" is in the right place - in the USA. When Allende began to step on the tail of the Chilean colonial elite, as well as to damage the interests of the United States in this country, the military (part of this elite), with the help of the US special services, staged a mutiny. Such are they "ideological", came out and defended ... the interests of the United States. Ideological American lackeys.

    Latin America is pregnant with socialism. In addition to Salvador Allende, there are also Fidel Castro and Ernesto Guevara, who "closed" a total American brothel in Cuba. Or, in your opinion, it was better to leave the brothel? Latin America gravitates towards socialism for a completely obvious reason, poverty and social disasters have acquired monstrous proportions there, extreme poverty does not allow people to simply keep their human appearance. And it is no accident that Liberation Theology was born in the depths of Latin American Catholicism. F. Castro and other Latin American socialists are the children of this humanistic doctrine.

    Are you, Mr. Bda, inspired by the image of General Pinochet? Isn't Colonel Chavez's image inspiring? Why? Is it because Pinochet was a sadist and an American lackey, and Chavez was not? Your preferences are strange, mister "bda". History has assigned everyone a place according to their merits: the socialist F. Castro is a living legend, the socialist U. Chavez is the national hero of Venezuela, President Allende is an innocent victim of the junta, Che Guevara is a hero and fighter for the happiness of the oppressed.

    And General Pinochet in his old age was strongly shaken by the Spanish justice, in Spain, and in Chile, people remember his "exploits".

    As for the USSR, it passed a strength test in tests of the first half of the century. There are not only 4 years of the war itself, but also much more that came before it, and what happened after. This is a historical fact that a person in contact with reality cannot ignore. If this were not so, we would not talk now. It is impossible to ignore the fact that the current RF has been living on the Soviet legacy for more than 20 years. So much different kindness was created by socialism that the curious-brothel audience, having been drinking it for 20 years, couldn’t drink to the end, but it would soon be drunk.

    The USSR collapsed exactly when the values ​​of socialism in it began to be replaced by the bourgeois values ​​of its ideological enemy (the convergence with which A. Sakharov was worn). If they doubted socialism - they lost their strength - they shamefully collapsed under a load that does not even account for a hundredth of that which fell on the shoulders of the first builders and defenders of socialism. Baghdasaryan is right: "It is impossible to fight the enemy, sharing his values."
  34. +1
    24 August 2014 08: 43
    Remember Putin's pleas when addressing the people? Well, come up with at least some thread what national idea ???
    And here's the thing, new (for our country) capitalist ideas still cannot take root, because many are still alive who know what a trap is. And old ideas cannot be applied because this is the collapse of today's elite. So they are trying to please something third - but alas, "there is no third." So Russia dangles like hu ... a flower in the hole in search of a national idea. And the search itself is in vain. Everything is very simple. As one smart person said - difficult issues are solved simply - can you then live with a clear conscience or not.

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