Failure in the southeast

Ukrainian hawks plucked wings

The hostilities that began in April of this year on the territory of the Donetsk and Lugansk republics take place with the active participation of the air forces of Ukraine. But there is still no intelligible information about the successes achieved by the Kiev “falcons” and what losses they actually suffered.

To get a full picture of what is happening in the airspace of a punitive operation, and even more so to evaluate the effectiveness of the Ukrainian aviation very difficult. Official Kiev speakers recognize losses only if they don’t get out at all, and give absolutely implausible explanations. A striking example is the destruction of the An-30 reconnaissance aircraft, which carried out specific reconnaissance of militia positions over Slavyansk. But according to the statement of Kiev, the transport An-26, carrying humanitarian aid for residents of the southeast, was shot down.

There are questions about the effectiveness of the Ukrainian bomb assault strikes (BSHU). The version that mainly houses are subjected to air attacks in order to punish the civilian population for supporting the “separatists” is confirmed by the pilots themselves with their combat work. In particular, 2 June they launched an unprovoked rocket attack on an administrative building in Lugansk. A spokesman for the punishers later claimed that this MANPADS of the militiamen had aimed at the air conditioner.

Forces, means, losses

The combat work of aviation during the so-called anti-terrorist operation (ATO) is characterized by relatively rare sorties — a little over 450 in four months. This includes not only the BSHU, but also flights in the interests of supplying troops, for evacuating the wounded, search and rescue, etc. For comparison: during the conflict with Georgia in August 2008 was flown by Russian aviation before 50 departures per day, the peak moments of the fighting in Chechnya in 1999 – 2001, this figure exceeded 100.

“The attacks from the air are mainly on residential buildings and infrastructure. This is confirmed by the Ukrainian pilots themselves. ”
In mid-April, when the punitive operation in the southeast was just beginning, the first 3 – 5 days were before 18 – 20 departures per day, but by the end of May their number dropped three to four times. A sharp surge occurred in early June. And then complete calm until the beginning of July, when the number of daily departures began to grow and reached its maximum in the middle of the month. In early August, another decline. In the first days of the month, the number of daily departures rarely exceeded 10.

In the middle of April, mainly Mi-24 and Mi-8 of army aviation worked, accompanying columns of troops blocking Slavyansk (more than 70 percent of daily departures). Also, the helicopters were used to conduct tactical assault forces with forces up to a platoon (mainly from the special units of the SBU, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the airborne and airborne brigades) with the tasks of destroying roadblocks.

In addition to helicopters, MiG-29 and Su-27 fighters with an air-to-air armament (Р-73 and Р-27Т missiles), attack aircraft Su-25 were raised into the air to cover the troops. However, after the first unsuccessful assault on Slavyansk, the number of sorties dropped sharply.

The most effective operation in the first stage of the fighting was the helicopter landing at the aerospace club in Kramatorsk. 15 On April 4, four Mi-8, with the support of a pair of Mi-24, landed at the site special forces soldiers who took it under control.

The first loss of Ukrainian aviation is also associated with this city. 25 April on the airfield was destroyed Mi-8. According to one version - an anti-tank guided missile fired from nearby houses by militias.

During the first attempt to assault Slavyansk at the end of April, it was planned to enter the city from several directions. It was planned to disembark two, according to other sources - three helicopter assault forces with a force up to a company with special forces of the Security Service of Ukraine, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the National Guard. It is noteworthy that the direct fire support of the actions of the punishers was carried out by the combat Mi-24, but the tasks for the artillery (several mortar batteries) were limited.

Failure in the southeastThe result of the storming began was the loss of three transport-combat Mi-24 from the fire of portable air defense systems (allegedly "Needle"). Faced with the air defense weapons of the militia, the Ukrainian military pilots were not able to solve a single task.

In general, the effectiveness of aviation support should be considered unsatisfactory. Despite the statements of the Kiev media, the pilots showed a low level of professional training. In particular, cadres of some Mi-24 maneuvers at low altitude almost in the hover mode, when pilots tried to hit the C-8 rockets with unguided C-XNUMX rockets mounted by militias at the crossing, became public knowledge. The helicopter was saved from destruction only by the fact that at that time the resistance forces had a shortage of MANPADS.

Massive use of portable anti-aircraft missile systems in combination with small-arms fire weapons from the ground forced the pilots of the army aviation to start operating at extremely low altitudes and maximum possible speeds. This decision reduced losses, but sharply reduced the already low effectiveness of support for the troops. Thus, during an attack on a checkpoint near the village of Volnovakha, the arriving couple Mi-24 could not figure out what was happening on the ground, and struck a missile and cannon attack on its own.

Large losses of attack helicopters (reliably known about three downed and three damaged) left the Mi-8 transport practically without cover, which led to the destruction of two such vehicles from April to June. On board the Mi-8, shot down in the area of ​​Mount Karachun, killed the head of the National Guard under combat training, Major General Sergei Kulchytsky.

As a result, at the end of June, the ATO headquarters stopped using helicopters for direct support of troops. Mi-24 departures for this purpose have not resumed to date. And the Mi-8 are quite actively used to supply the troops and evacuate the wounded, but outside the zone of clashes. The very first attempt to use the Mi-8 on the front line led 7 August to destroy it.

The only success of army aviation pilots can be considered a reflection of the assault on Donetsk 26 airport in May, when, thanks to rocket and gun strikes on the terminal building, the militia forces were held back, and the timely landing of special forces fighters from the 3 regiment strengthened the garrison.

It is noteworthy that during the entire time of the punitive operation from the Mi-24 helicopters, ATGMs were never used, only cannon-machine gun weapons and the NAR C-8 and C-5 were used.

The decision on the use of Su-24 attack aircraft and bombers was probably made by the anti-terrorist operation headquarters in mid-May, when it became apparent that helicopters were very vulnerable.

It is worth noting that the leadership of the punitive operation immediately immediately activated the forces of military transport aviation to supply the troops. In particular, even before the start of the storming of Slavyansk, the first flights of the Il-76 and An-26 were noted, having transferred several airborne companies to Donetsk and Lugansk. In late May, the share of military transport airplanes accounted for the bulk of daily departures, sometimes reaching 80 percent.

The first loss of the VTA was downed over the Slavonic An-30 during the specific reconnaissance and adjustment of artillery fire on the positions of the militia. On the night of 12 on 13 June, the military transport Il-76 became a victim of MANPADS for the militia, which was carrying out a flight to supply the security forces in Lugansk airport. In June, another transport Mi-8 was destroyed, carrying out the task of delivering the cargo to the location of the security forces on Mount Karachun.

In general, June was relatively calm for Ukrainian aviation, there were days when flights were not performed at all. Everything changed in July, when, at the request of Petro Poroshenko, the headquarters of the ATO began to implement a plan to isolate the Donetsk and Lugansk republics. In addition to massive artillery fire, Su-25 attack planes and Su-24 front-line bombers were actively used.

However, the militia increased the number of MANPADS and restored the Strela-10 anti-aircraft missile systems previously captured from the units of the Ukrainian armed forces.

In early July, the Ukrainian Air Force applied the BSHU from three to five thousand meters. It was believed that the use of infrared traps in combination with height would save planes from MANPADS militias. The Ukrainian military itself recognized that at such heights there remains a minimal opportunity to accurately hit targets. This also applies to the newly upgraded Su-25М1, which received new sighting systems based on optical-electronic systems, which, according to officials, radically increased the combat capabilities of the aircraft. But experience has shown that the Su-25М1 does not have the capabilities of an aiming complex as wonderful as it was stated earlier.

The largest number of daily departures, sometimes reaching 18 per day, was in the middle of July, when attempts were made to unblock the Cordon tactical group that had entered the southern boiler. In addition to supporting the Su-25 surroundings, they were actively used to attack infrastructure in Lugansk and Donetsk. Here, the Ukrainian Air Force achieved some success by destroying several electric substations in Lugansk in mid-July. According to some reports, one of the objects was hit by a guided bomb dropped from the Su-24 front-line bomber.

It is worth noting that the Ukrainian aviation several times attacked the increased power of the militia in the positions of the militias in the Saur-Grave region (according to one of the versions - FAB-1000 or even FAB-1500). But after the damage received by the June 2 front bomber, Su-24 became rare in the skies of the southeast, unlike the Su-24МР reconnaissance aircraft, which made several dozen missions to the southern boiler and Lisichansk projection in late July-early August. In fact, the Su-25 remained the only aircraft massively involved in hostilities.

Particular attention should be paid to the attempts to organize an air bridge to supply the Cordon tactical group blocked at the Russian border. In particular, besides An-26, for the first time after the June loss, Il-76 were involved. Although it is reliably known only about one flight of the "seventy-sixth." At the same time, An-26 performed several dozen flights, dropping more than a thousand tons of cargo. True, the Cordon’s fighters didn’t get more than a third, since, due to the threat of using MANPADS, parachute dumping occurred at an altitude of over five thousand meters, which led to considerable dispersion. The very first delivery attempt from a lower altitude 14 June turned into a loss of An-26.

In connection with the wear and tear of the material part in early August, Mig-29 fighters were involved in strikes against the militia. According to some reports, the first use of these machines took place on May 26 in repelling the storming of the Donetsk airport. August 7 was shot down while launching a missile strike at the Mig-29 militia checkpoint.

Most likely, it was precisely the low technical serviceability of the aviation fleet that led to the next decrease in the activity of the security forces in the air. Even the mode of relatively low intensity turned out to be disastrous for the Ukrainian Air Force.


Mi-24 helicopters operated in pairs in May-June. Typical weapons were two to four blocks NUR C-8, sometimes C-5, often with a cumulative warhead. Initially, attack helicopters operated at altitudes from 500 to 1500 meters, but with the advent of MANPADS they switched to heights from 50 to 100 meters, sometimes making a “jump” for launching missiles, while performing a maneuver at maximum speed to avoid being under fire from portable missile systems . Accordingly, the effectiveness of the use of airborne weapons has decreased several times.

Mi-8 carried out departures only singly under the cover of a pair of Mi-24. But from mid-May after the loss of attack helicopters, transport vehicles began to operate independently at altitudes from 100 to 500 meters, using the terrain as much as possible. 7 August Mi-8, despite all the maneuvers, was shot down by small arms fire.

Currently, not a single case of use on transport helicopters launchers NAR. At the same time, everyone has onboard PKK or PC (PKM) machine guns.

In May, the Su-25 also worked in pairs, but with an increase in the intensity of hostilities, single attack aircraft began to be used for the BSHU. The C-8 missiles, as well as the FAB-500 and RBC bombs, became the main aviation weapons. There are episodic cases of NAR C-13, C-24 and C-25.

Su-25 was initially struck from 3,5 – 5 thousands of meters, but after losses they went to a height of 5 – 6 thousands. There are only a few cases when attack aircraft performed a dive for maximum efficiency and accuracy of the use of TSA. Basically, strikes are applied after turning to the target from a direct flight, when just before the strike the nose of the aircraft descends on 3 – 5, in rare cases - 10 degrees. This leads to a high dispersion of the TSA, especially unguided rockets, and taking into account the fact that Su-25 is now operating at a height of 5 – 6 thousands of meters, the accuracy of hitting is generally minimal, especially when using NAR. In fact, since mid-July, bombs became the main weapon of attack aircraft. The reluctance to dive at the target can be explained not only by the weak training of pilots. It also speaks of the poor condition of the material part. Perhaps the machine simply will not withstand severe overloads. In particular, many questions are caused by the P-25 engines installed on the Su-95, many of which have not undergone the necessary repairs. Their assigned resource last year was zero.

The Su-24 front-line bombers operated at altitudes from 3,5 to 5 thousands of meters, using both the NAR and FAB-100, FAB-500 and RBC bombs, and in exceptional cases - FAB-1000 and FAB-1500. But after the damage of one of the bombers, the use of these machines was reduced to the maximum. According to some data, no more than 10 departures were made from June to August, this is largely due again to the low technical serviceability of the park. Su-24 remain the only carriers of guided weapons and, most likely, their command saves.

Separately, it is worth considering the management structure of the air units involved in the punitive operation. Their work is led by the Aviation Planning Division at the ATO headquarters. The experience of the USAF in Iraq and Afghanistan is used. In the evening, the squadrons from the headquarters receive the so-called daily orders, which indicate the planned targets and areas of search. Also set the estimated calculation of forces and means and the combat load on the aircraft and helicopters.

The search zones are variations of American killer boxes, when the terrain is divided into special squares, in which, depending on the tactical situation, ground advanced gunners or specially designated aircraft coordinate enemy air strikes. It is believed that such a system is most effective with the direct support of the troops. But the Ukrainian search zones are some squares, where pilots independently determine their targets and hit them, in fact, they are free hunting. In American terminology - free kill boxes.

Sometimes the search zone is still assigned a square, where its troops operate, but this happens quite rarely. In this case, the task of coordinating air strikes against the enemy falls on the headquarters of the battalion or brigade.

The only time that Ukrainian aviation effectively managed to directly support the troops was the fighting at the Donetsk airport.

If we estimate the number of departures for their intended purpose, then 85 – 90 percent will be hit by the planned targets, 5 – 7 percent - by actions in the search zones and only 3 – 5 percent - by direct support of the troops. In fact, by removing the helicopters, the militia deprived the Ukrainian ground units of any support from the air.

Pre-planned targets are chosen by the headquarters of the ATO or the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Quite rarely, targets identified by ground units and subunits fall on this list. The exceptions were the battles for Saur-Grave. In general, the actions of aviation are routine, minimally satisfying the immediate needs of their troops. The level of interaction between aviation and ground forces is extremely low both at the tactical level and at the operational level. Often you can even hear the opinion that Ukrainian aviation is waging an independent war, which has little to do with what is happening on the ground.
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  1. +14
    21 August 2014 14: 35
    From today, dill pilots in flight wear a white bandage with a red circle on their foreheads over the face mask ...
    1. +10
      21 August 2014 14: 52
      Good / objective statistics with analysis of the losses of the "Banderlet" since the beginning of the conflict. The author of the article is a well-deserved plus;)
      1. +1
        21 August 2014 17: 26
        but I liked it: "the transport An-26 was shot down, transporting humanitarian aid for the residents of the southeast."
    2. +1
      21 August 2014 16: 32
      Quote: vorobey
      From today, dill pilots in flight wear a white bandage with a red circle on their foreheads over the face mask ...

      I doubt it very much. To do this, one must have fortitude and readiness for sacrifice. But this is not observed in dill of all stripes.
      1. WKS
        21 August 2014 17: 25
        The following picture emerges from the text of the article. Before the flight, the pilot receives an assignment from his superiors: "Fly somewhere and bomb something there."
      2. koshh
        21 August 2014 19: 00
        Quote: mamont5
        To do this, you must have fortitude and a willingness to sacrifice

        Fortunately, fighters of the DPR and LPR, among the so-called ukrov pilots, are not even a bit like our Gastello and other pilots - heroes of the Second World War.
      3. koshh
        21 August 2014 20: 03
        Quote: mamont5
        To do this, you must have fortitude and a willingness to sacrifice

        Fortunately, fighters of the DPR and LPR, among the so-called ukrov pilots, are not even a bit like our Gastello and other pilots - heroes of the Second World War.
    3. 0
      21 August 2014 16: 48
      The more junta flying vehicles on the earth the better, the pilots ranked all as war criminals for the killing of civilians.
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. +5
        21 August 2014 17: 25
        What kind of military spirit can we talk about when this on earth is waiting for you ...
  2. +10
    21 August 2014 14: 35
    Svezhak from dill. Our people didn’t say anything about it. Maybe he collapsed request Censor
    21.08.14 13: 17 Both pilots ejected from a Su-24M shot down by terrorists, - the National Security and Defense Council
    Last night, terrorists shot down a Ukrainian Su-24M military aircraft in the Luhansk region.
    1. +4
      21 August 2014 14: 41
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Ours about it, that did not say something.

      They said about 2 Mi-24, and 1 Su-25.
      Dill confirmed 1 Mi-24, 1 Su-25 and Mi-8 sanitary, shot down earlier.
      1. 0
        21 August 2014 14: 44
        Quote: Russ69
        Dill confirmed 1 Mi-24, 1 Su-25 and Mi-8 sanitary, shot down on the 19th.

        And MIG 29 where are you going?
        1. +3
          21 August 2014 14: 46
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And MIG 29 where are you going?

          its main Etsilop translucidated ..
        2. +1
          21 August 2014 14: 48
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And MIG 29 where are you going?

          He doesn’t count. These losses after the MiG ...
    2. 0
      21 August 2014 14: 52
      There is still such info:
      In the fighting in the Donbass involved saboteurs who fight against the Ukrainian security forces and against the militias. This was in an interview with Ukrainian Truth, said Colonel-General of the Ukrainian Army in the reserve Vladimir Ruban.

      But they say dill.
      Who-thread saw confirmation?
      1. +2
        21 August 2014 14: 56
        Quote: lexxxus
        Who-thread saw confirmation?

        The words of Ruban are taken from his interview with Ino media today, only the link was.
  3. +6
    21 August 2014 14: 36
    I am glad after the collapse of the Union Outskirts sold part of the fleet. I’m glad that I didn’t buy anything new.
    1. +5
      21 August 2014 14: 39
      Quote: Wiruz
      I am glad after the collapse of the Union Outskirts sold part of the fleet. I’m glad that I didn’t buy anything new.

      Are we again to blame?
    2. +12
      21 August 2014 14: 41
      It is even more pleasing that these half-fools took away their nuclear weapons on time ...
      1. 0
        21 August 2014 15: 00
        "It is even more gratifying that these idiots were deprived of their nuclear weapons in time ..."
        I think for us it would turn out to be luck. Certainly they would have covered up from the blows of the city, and the fact of its application would have made it possible to resolve the issue quickly, which would lead to less damage and losses .... But most likely, it would have remained unused.
      2. 0
        21 August 2014 16: 36
        Quote: Wunderwaffle
        It is even more pleasing that these half-fools took away their nuclear weapons on time ...

        Who would leave him to them. They didn’t follow their planes and missiles, not to mention BT. But nuclear weapons require constant care.
  4. +1
    21 August 2014 14: 36
    What kind of power is this and aviation. Falcons at a bucket pancake! wassat
    1. +2
      21 August 2014 15: 07
      Quote: ded100
      What kind of power is this and aviation. Falcons at a bucket pancake!

      Their "falcons" should be shown for money in a cage together with a mustachioed woman from Austria named "Conchita-sausage", carried around the booths of agonizing Europe. The proceeds from this dazzling show, let them go to prostheses for crippled amputees who have lost arms and legs "on the eastern fronts", who are begging for alms in Kueva ...
  5. +1
    21 August 2014 14: 42
    The most real and detailed summary ...

    Summary of punitive losses in aviation for the entire duration of hostilities.
    25 April 2014 of the year - Mi-8 destroyed at the airport of Kramatorsk (hit from an RPG or Ptura), the An-2 standing nearby also burned down.
    2 May 2014 - Mi – 24 shot down under Slavic from MANPADS - the crew was killed.
    2 May 2014 g. - Mi-24 shot down under Slavic from PZR - 2 people. dead, 1 captured.
    2 of May 2014 - Mi-24 was damaged by fire from the ground (from Su or a large-caliber machine gun), went to his own, crashed, crashed tail boom and engine fire.
    2 May 2014 g. - Mi-8 badly damaged under Slavic.
    5 May 2014 g. - Mi-24 shot down under Slavic from a heavy machine gun. Later destroyed by aircraft Ukroarmii.
    26 May 2014 - Civil Yak-40 destroyed at the airport in Donetsk ... Whose fire - is not known for certain.
    26 May 2014. - Mi-24 damaged in Donetsk during the battle for the railway station, engine fire, managed to escape, crashed.
    May 29, 2014 - Mi-8 shot down from MANPADS near Slavyansk. Killed 12 people (including General Kulchevsky), one was seriously injured.
    May 29, 2014 - Mi-8MT (belonged to the 51st brigade of the army aviation of the National Guard) shot down or a technical malfunction. The crew died.
    2 June 2014 g. - Su-25 damaged by fire ZU-23-2 near Lugansk, reached for the base under Raisin.
    3 June 2014 g. - Mi-24 (10 yellow number) was padded under Slavyansk, badly damaged, crashed on the field, the crew was evacuated, after unsuccessful repair attempts taken out.
    3 June 2014 g. - Su-25 is damaged by fire from the ZN-23-2 ZN-gun anti-aircraft installation under Slavonic (most likely, it reached the base under Raisin). He left a black mark behind him in the direction of the Red Estuary.
    3 June 2014 g. - Su-25 shot down under Slavic (fell north), the pilot ejected.
    3 June 2014 g. - Mi-8 (white color) is damaged under Slavyansk, emergency crashed near ukrov, exported.
    04 June 2014 - Mi-8 damaged under Slavyansk, emergency crashed with MTO fire, taken out under cover of armor;
    June 4, 2014 - the Mi-24 was damaged near Slavyansk, accidentally sat down, collapsed on its side, MTO fire, the Ukrainians finished off from the Su-25. (according to other data, it was finished off from BMD-2 by the militia);
    4 June 2014 g. - Mi-24 (15 number yellow) damaged under Slavyansk, exported.
    4 June 2014 g. - Mi-24 (91 number yellow) damaged under Slavyansk, exported.
    5 June 2014 g. - Su-25 damaged by fire from ZU-23-2 under Slavic, reached for the base under Raisin.
    5 June 2014 g. - Mi-8 damaged by fire from small arms near Slavyansk.
    6 June 2014 - AN-30B shot down from MANPADS.
    6 June 2014 g. - Su-25 received minor damage under Slavic.
    13 June 2014 - Su-25 is damaged over Druzhkovka, smoking, flew away, most likely reached the base.
    14 June 2014 - IL-76 shot down from MANPADS near Lugansk airport (at least 49 dead).
    14 June 2014 g. - Mi-24 at the village. Happiness is damaged, the MTO fire, sat down in an emergency at the Gay Mountain, finished off 82-mm mortars.
    14 June 2014 - Su-25 shot down from MANPADS over Gorlovka, the pilot ejected, was captured, and was later exchanged. According to other information, not the Su-25 was shot down, but the Su-24 and 1 pilot was killed, the 2 was captured.
    17 June 2014 g. - Su-25 hit by Kurdumovki, left with smoke, most likely, reached the base.
  6. +3
    21 August 2014 14: 43

    19 June 2014 - Su-25 was shot down at Yampol, reaching for the base.
    19 June 2014 g. - Mi-24 damaged at Yampol.
    19 June 2014 g. - Su-25 damaged under Seversk, returned to base.
    21 June 2014 - Mi-8 The helicopter of the state service of Ukraine for emergency situations, involved in a force operation conducted by the Kiev authorities in the east of Ukraine, crashed in the Zmievsky district of the Kharkiv region. The accident killed three crew members.
    24 June 2014 g. - Mi-8 shot down from MANPADS near Slavyansk, all 9 people died.
    1 July 2014 - Su-25 was shot down near the town of Snezhnoye, most likely reaching the base.
    1 July 2014 - Su-24 hit over the village of Lugansk, reached the base.
    2 July 2014 - Su-24 shot down under Lisichansk, reached the base, but burned down on the runway.
    2 July 2014 - Su-25 shot down near Seversk, the pilot tried to reach the base, but collapsed in the Dnipropetrovsk region, the pilot ejected.
    5 July 2014 y. - IL-76 destroyed at the airport of Lugansk.
    7 July 2014 y. - Su-25 made an emergency landing in the Luhansk region, the pilot surrendered. In LC appeared the first aircraft.
    12 July 2014 g. - Mi-24 padded from MANPADS at a low altitude near the town of Snezhny, near the village of Tannery. I was forced to sit down.
    13 July 2014 g. - Su-25 shot down from Gorlovka from ZU-23-2, fell in the region of the settlement Zaytsevo.
    13 July 2014 g. - Su-25 shot down from Gorlovka from ZU-23-2, fell in the region of the settlement Debalcevo.
    14 July 2014 - Su-25 lined near the airport of Lugansk, reached the base.
    14 July 2014 - An-26 shot down from MANPADS, fell in the area of ​​the village Dolzhano-Nikolsky Lugansk region.
    14 July 2014 - Su-24 (?) Shot down in the area Lysychansk of MANPADS.
    16 July 2014 - Su-25 padded from MANPADS near Dmitrievka, most likely reached the base.
    16 July 2014 - Su-25 shot down at Amvrosiyivka, the pilot ejected.
    21 July 2014 g. - Su-25 is padded at the village. Georgievka, leaving behind a trail of smoke, went to the base.
    23 July 2014 - Su-25 shot down with MANPADS at Saur Mogila, according to other information - at Dmitrievka. The pilot ejected.
    23 July 2014 - Su-25 shot down with MANPADS at Saur Mogila (according to other information from Dmitrievka). The plane was originally shot down and flew in the direction of Lugansk, smoking, in the vicinity of which it crashed. The pilot ejected.
    2 August 2014 y. - Su-25 shot down from MANPADS under Enakievo. The pilot ejected, captured.
    7 August 2014 - Mig-29 shot down under Enakievo. The pilot ejected.
    7 August 2014 - Mi-8 (medical), shot down in the area of ​​Saur-Graves (Ukrosmi).
    17 August 2014 g. - Mig-29 was shot down from MANPADS under Krasnodon, the pilot ejected.
    17 August 2014 - shot down Su-25 with MANPADS near the village of Khryaschevate.
    20 August 2014 - shot down Mi-24 from MANPADS near the village of Georgievka.
    20 August 2014 - Mi-24 was shot down from the memory near the village of Georgievka, thick black smoke from the engine, made an emergency landing.
    20 August 2014. - shot down Su-25 at Novosvetlovka, the pilot ejected.

    Mi-24: 6 destroyed irretrievably + 8 hit / damaged.
    Mi-8: 5 destroyed irretrievably + 5 hit / damaged.
    Su-25: 11 destroyed irretrievably + 1 captured LC + 12 hit / damaged (returned to base).
    Su-24: 2 destroyed irrevocably + 1 hit / damaged, reached the base.
    Mig-29: 2 units destroyed.
    AN-30 (reconnaissance) + 2 IL-76 (transport workers) + An-26 (transport worker) were also destroyed.

    Mi-24: 6 destroyed irretrievably + 8 hit / damaged.

    Dill themselves, confirmed, like 8 irrevocable + one more yesterday. Although, maybe they just wrote off a couple of black ones ...
  7. +1
    21 August 2014 14: 46
    The paradox, however: the more ukro- "litaks", the fewer of them.
  8. +4
    21 August 2014 14: 47
    It is a pity that planes and helicopters solve the tasks of corrupt politicians and aligarchs who destroy their own people. It’s a pity ... Sometimes, look at the photo of a downed veteran plane or an old helicopter, tears welling up. It seems correct that they shot down the car but feel sorry for it. It is a pity that in the cabin the guys who follow orders for the destruction of their own leave their children orphans and their wives as widows. It is a pity how many people in the peaceful Donbas destroyed the s ... ch. Terrible thing civil war, terrible. Schaub was beaten by these American mattress-makers and pies in his throat were overgrown for what they had done on our land. And to all these PIGS, yes to TURCHINOV, yes, AVAKOVY, you can’t see a clear sky for years! Do not judge strictly for regret, but it’s boiling, and with aviation I ...
    1. +2
      21 August 2014 16: 54
      Quote nvn_co
      It is a pity that in the cabin the guys who follow orders for the destruction of their own leave their children orphans and their wives as widows.

      Yes, not sorry for these banderlet bombing the peaceful cities of their own country, their own people !!!
      The more they land in the grave the better - the more children, women, old people, peaceful men will remain alive.
      If they don’t have enough brains to think, analyze and not follow the criminal orders to destroy peaceful people, if they blindly serve the oligarchs, Nazis, Bandera, and not the people, then they need to go there. They are criminals and enemies that need to be destroyed.
  9. +2
    21 August 2014 14: 59
    Ofiget Sash, the first Su-24 shot down by militias good Commercials in Ukraine and aviation will not soon remain.
    Confirmed Ukro-Air Force losses (Ukrainians themselves recognized the losses, plus there are photo and video materials in the media):
    2 MiG-29 (7 and 17 of August)
    2 Su-24. The first was hit on July 2 in the Slavyansk region with a MANPADS shot, surging and subsequent engine fire, was successfully put out by the fire extinguishing system, and returned to the airfield on one engine. With a rough emergency landing, it caught fire again. Arriving firefighters managed to extinguish the flame. The crew was not injured. With a higher probability, the board will be decommissioned. Not a plus second today.
    5 Su-25 (2 July, 16 July, 2-23 July, 1-yesterday)
    1 IL-76 (June 14),
    1 EN-26 (July 14),
    1 EN-30 (June 6)
    5-6 Mi-24 (possibly one of two Mi-8 helicopters shot down yesterday)
    4 Mi-8, possibly 5, since one of the helicopters shot down yesterday by the militia is possibly Mi-8.
    In addition, the militias claim at least 18 downed planes and 5 helicopters, the loss of which is not recognized by the Kiev authorities.
    The first photo-video evidence of the use of the OSA-AKM air defense missile systems captured in the Izvarinsky boiler by the militias appeared, which apparently explains the increased losses of the Air Force to the hohlohut.

    SAM "OSA-AKM" in Donetsk
  10. +3
    21 August 2014 15: 01
    Oh, I’m sleeping and I see how I’m sneaking around the dill airfield at night and laying explosives in the air intakes of the aircraft. Then from a distance I look at a colorful show. smile
  11. denisdatsuk
    21 August 2014 15: 06
    be that as it may, but what a su 25 airplane is all the same, more than half reached the airfields, made in USSR
    1. +5
      21 August 2014 15: 26
      Su-25 is a highly protected aircraft, combat survivability systems account for 7,2% of normal take-off weight or 1050 kg. The vital attack aircraft systems are duplicated and shielded less important.
      Particular attention is paid to the protection of critical components and components - the cockpit and the fuel system.
      The cockpit is welded from aircraft titanium armor ABVT-20. The thickness of the armor plates is from 10 to 24 mm. Frontal glazing provides bulletproof protection and is a glass block with a thickness of 55 mm. The back of the pilot is protected by a steel armor plate with a thickness of 6 mm. The pilot is almost completely protected from shelling from any weapon with a caliber up to 12,7 mm, and in the most dangerous directions - with a caliber up to 30 mm.

      In Afghanistan, on average, for each downed Su-25, there were 80-90 combat damage, cases were described when aircraft with 150 holes returned to the base, while it is noted that there was not a single case of aircraft loss due to an explosion of fuel tanks or the death of the pilot. According to this indicator, it significantly surpasses other Soviet aircraft used in Afghanistan (for example, one lost Su-17 had an average of 15-20 damage) and American aircraft during the Vietnam War. Su-25s repeatedly returned on the same engine, with punctured fuel tanks and control rods, with damaged wing spars and bullet-proof glass pockmarked from hits. Moreover, there were cases when aircraft returned to the base after a direct hit by Stinger.

      But the damage to the Su-25 during the war "888".

  12. +1
    21 August 2014 15: 08
    But such news is given out by dill and it is picked up by our press in the face of "MK"
    Security forces in Ukraine destroyed three tanks and two airborne assault vehicles in air strikes. In addition, they claim the destruction of two Grad installations, also belonging to the militia.
    And they believe and rejoice.
    and that's what I found in comments
    For the sake of whom? The 1st parachute company of military unit 74268, Pskov air
    there is NO more airborne division!

    they even laugh and write to the maydauns that in a normal army without military air defense there is no where, and the militias are fine with the rules for camouflage and MANPADS ready.
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  14. +2
    21 August 2014 15: 28
    When our bomber regiment covered the withdrawal of troops from the DRA, 50 sorties per day (one regiment) were carried out every day. For six months, 4500 tons of ammunition were thrown.
  15. 0
    21 August 2014 15: 31
    Dill claim that yesterday it was not Su-25 that was shot down, but Su-24M ...

    KIEV, Aug 21 - RIA News. Both pilots of the Ukrainian Su-24M attack aircraft, shot down on Wednesday in the Luhansk region, ejected, said the speaker of the information center of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Andriy Lysenko on Thursday.

    The day before, he reported on the Ukrainian Su-25 attack aircraft shot down by militias. Nothing was said about the fate of the pilot. At a briefing on Thursday, Lysenko said that it was a shot down Su-24M, in which there were two pilots.

    RIA Novosti
  16. +2
    21 August 2014 15: 34
    "ZRK OSA_AKM" - the first specialty. THING! All on lamps.
  17. +1
    21 August 2014 16: 09
    A good article on the style of the report, everything is meticulously processed and the conclusions are present, credit!
  18. Oml
    21 August 2014 16: 44
    For 450 flights - the supply of the heating season burned out. Now the whining that the miners betrayed them, theft of gas, licking in front of the thick backs of zapadents will begin to the cold weather.
  19. melnik
    21 August 2014 17: 17
    Nice to meet a competent cholovik!
  20. 0
    21 August 2014 17: 47
    Quote: vorobey

    I watched a video where the soldiers said that no one spared the officers of the 25 brigade and was not taken prisoner!

    commander of the DNI fighters Igor Bezler. It was Ruban who managed to agree on improving the conditions of detention, and then to remove people from the 17 captivity - the military from the 72 and 25th brigades and several civilians, including Vasily Budik, whom Bezler exponentially “shot” in May.

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    these scum from the 25-th brigade deserve the worst death
  21. special
    21 August 2014 19: 30
    "Heroes" are pilots ... Great intelligence to apply BShU in residential areas, without address, no need ...
  22. +3
    21 August 2014 21: 29
    Based on the presented analysis, we can conclude:
    the maximum skill of ditching and the optimal efficiency of the use of combat aircraft were achieved when striking pre-identified, fixed large-sized targets such as "five-story house with five entrances"

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