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The desire to write an article for “Military Review” has long ripened, but the professional habit of cooking suits strongly resisted that desire, for a lawsuit is simpler and clearer in nature — the subject and the grounds, and everything else is a matter of evidence.

Ukraine, by its example, generated (in my mind) a system of evidence confirming (in my mind) the absolute regression of the Western consciousness and mind as a whole, namely: humanity (in my understanding) was successful in development - from stone to copper and further to iron alloy -carbon, which led to the quintessence of evil - to the Sakharov lithium deuterium 6LiD, exclusively in the transition of SELF-CONSCIOUSNESS of the individual (human individual), from “WE-BEING” to “I-BEING”. It was not by chance that in the epoch of the Paleolithic, exile from the tribe (from the cave) was considered the most terrible punishment, at least, historians say. Still: when the savage's consciousness (we-being) turned out to be outside the tribe, outside the common table, outside EVERYTHING, it turned out to be alone with SPACE, and the mega-size absorbed the macro slice, like a 300-ton open-hearth furnace a drop of water! The consciousness of the expelled dissolved the “cosmos”, absorbed his will to live, and ate the savage on the ground, for the consciousness did not give the signal to even climb a tree!

The development of mankind occurred EXACTLY in the light of the transition from “WE-BEING” to “I-BEING”, individuals, realizing their strength and gaining their vision of the future development of the tribe, moreover, as the development of the “I-BEING” environment of the individual, with strict measures directed the evolution substances (here it is necessary to clarify: chemistry is the science of the structure of matter, physics is the science of the movement of matter, and biology is the science of the evolution of matter, the apogee of which was rational man) to the progress of civilization, to NTP, to the appearance of (in Russia) three great " K »: Korolev, Kurcha s, Keldysh!

The West, oddly enough, hasn’t reached the mind in order to assimilate the Russian world, Russian culture and Russian science (assimilation is the loss of one part of society (or an entire ethnic group) of its distinctive features and replacing them with features of another society, mixing tribes) because everything was in their hands! On the contrary, they are trying to isolate us - to expel from the tribe, but the Russians live (by consciousness) not in the Paleolithic ... The same V.V. Putin is a vivid illustration of "I-BEING" by self-consciousness!

Thus, the Western world (my opinion) follows the path of regression, going deeper into “WE-BEING”, the United States no longer even moves independently since Kennedy (Cuba’s sea blockade) is constantly making coalitions to share responsibility: they are calling us savages themselves deny the progress of Western individuals (the last handsome American died of cancer, which he was given by the US healthcare system - Steve Jobs, God rest his soul), and vice versa, they encourage the development of Russian identity on the scale of a single individual!

Let me remind you of a meeting in the US government, where NASA offered to investigate the issue under discussion, to which the Secretary of State said: NASA should be broken off, they spent 25 million dollars on inventing a pen that can write in weightlessness! And Russians, without any problems, always used a simple pencil!
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  1. +26
    21 August 2014 09: 00
    All is well, but it's time to stop taking "all the best" from the West, such as education reforms and the Unified State Exam. It's time to remember which generation launched the first rockets into space and created the nuclear shield that still works today. Learning to take the best from their ancestors, and not from duped and not quite friendly neighbors.
    1. +6
      21 August 2014 09: 10
      I don't quite agree with the author. The United States pulls coalitions into all wars just to give these wars at least a little, at least a semblance of legitimacy. And by the way, in all world affairs, Putin is also trying to find allies. Let us recall the joint Russian-Chinese veto on Syria, the recent "agreements of the century" with China, a visit to the countries of Latin America in order to strengthen cooperation with its states in the light of the events in Ukraine. But still the article is a plus.
      1. 0
        21 August 2014 12: 38
        Americans share costs, so as not to pay for themselves - the mean-spirited - for a cent
        1. 0
          21 August 2014 14: 39
          I would say this is inherent in all Western countries. The capitalists. On a visit with your beer, food and be sure to ask permission before taking a cookie. Such here they are - bourgeois.
    2. +9
      21 August 2014 10: 27
      You need to learn from everyone, so as not to mess up later. Enemies also have something to learn. Just need the ability to distinguish grains from the chaff.
      1. WKS
        +1
        21 August 2014 10: 38
        Let NASA break off, they spent $ 25 million on the invention of a pen that can write in zero gravity! And Russians without problems always used a simple pencil!

        And if the pencil broke, then they just wrote with a piece of stylus.
        1. Cadet787
          0
          21 August 2014 13: 01
          It seems to me that the article is not about anything, so there is reasoning on a free topic.
        2. +1
          21 August 2014 13: 36
          so is the SOE system (SOI ??)! Billions were thrown to the development of military satellites of the earth. And ours told them that they would simply put a cargo ship with bolts into orbit of these satellites and blow it up - kapets to all satellites and there will be a cloud of interference.
          .. usually a difficult task has a simple solution - Occam's razor law.
        3. koshh
          0
          21 August 2014 18: 24
          Quote: wks
          Let NASA break off, they spent $ 25 million on the invention of a pen that can write in zero gravity! And Russians without problems always used a simple pencil!
          And if the pencil broke, then they just wrote with a piece of stylus.


          This is one of the perfect examples of Russian quick wits and ingenuity. These people have always been rich in our land - Russia. And for any move of the mattress covers, we always have such a return move, they will get stupefied by surprise and simplicity.
    3. 0
      21 August 2014 11: 48
      May God grant us to avoid such mistakes.
      1. +5
        21 August 2014 12: 21
        Lord, another article ...
        Well, how much can you publish some nonsense?
        Another spoonful of porridge in people's brains.
        And here in general?
    4. Squares
      +3
      21 August 2014 12: 32
      What is the article about? That the West and the United States are in the ass and we are on horseback? Why, then, does the government drive Mercedes cars and call on iPhones? Enough of this "soon everyone will die except us." Let's give facts and analysis, not science fiction for analytics.
      1. bda
        bda
        +3
        21 August 2014 12: 59
        The development of mankind took place EXACTLY in the light of the transition from "WE-BEING" to "I-BEING"

        The transition from "WE-BEING" to "I-BEING" has always been not development, but degradation.
        Just so, abandoning their collectivist roots and falling into insignificance, the civilizations of Ancient Hellas, Etruria, Rome, Byzantium and many others died.
        It's just that at a certain, rather high, level of development, some idiots, as it seemed to them, from a great mind, began to consider their collectivist ancestors fools, and themselves: smart and free individuals-individualists. Everywhere and always it ended with degradation and self-destruction (less "advanced" neighbors - "barbarians" also often put their hand to this, leaning on the jaded "individuals" with a "herd").
        The antidote has always been in traditional religious schools built on seemingly irrational collectivist principles (this is from the point of view of individualists of "non-traditional orientation", but in fact it is rationalism of a higher order - so to speak: not for average minds).
        That is why now all the peridotism, in the first place, is trying to steal the religious consciousness, realizing that by tearing a person out of the environment where God is, you can inspire him with anything - and call white good and black evil.
        1. 0
          21 August 2014 15: 07
          Quote: bda
          The transition from "WE-BEING" to "I-BEING" has always been not development, but degradation.
          To argue on such topics, you need to answer a number of questions for yourself:
          -what is a person?
          -what is the essence (in religion, the soul is called) of man?
          -How do the conscious and the essence (subconscious) interact in a person?
          -How does the essence of man and the universal civilization matrix interact?
          When a person answers these questions for himself, and the answer to them is impossible without the recognition of the ether as the initial substance of the structure of matter, then there will be no need to reason. The world will change, and with it the individuals inhabiting the earth, possessing an entity, but people in full not the meaning of this word. This is when a person finds out the answers to these questions, he will become MAN. For the time being, an individual that has reason, but has no contact with essence and very easily turns into a beast under certain circumstances.
    5. net abortion
      +5
      21 August 2014 12: 34
      Quote: USSR 1971
      Learning to take the best


      Mind, honor и conscience Of Ukraine!
  2. +13
    21 August 2014 09: 02
    "... Thus, the Western world (in my opinion) is going through a regression, going deeper and deeper into" WE-BEING ""

    The USSR existed precisely in "WE-BEING" and it was difficult to call regression, because progress was growing in the spheres of mechanization and automation of manual labor
  3. +4
    21 August 2014 09: 02
    ... to which the Secretary of State said: Let NASA break off, they spent $ 25 million on the invention of a pen that can write in zero gravity! And Russians without problems always used a simple pencil!

    Well, and how against such a country (Russia)?
  4. +11
    21 August 2014 09: 02
    What is the article about ??? request
    1. +4
      21 August 2014 09: 07
      I agree. For philosophical and esoteric texts, you need to select a separate column on the site. Maybe the author is trying, but I do not like such literature. Something more practical for me ...
      1. rin
        rin
        0
        21 August 2014 09: 48
        C'mon, normal article, there’s just a lot of philosophy ... and that's pretty much the topic laughing
      2. +1
        21 August 2014 10: 28
        The bogeyman is complete. Why are there so many scientific terms? What did the author prove with his sophisticated conclusions? What is soap soap? This is so clear to everyone. Regarding the linear development of history - I do not agree. I am a supporter of the concept of cyclical development of history. History repeats itself, especially when people forget it.
      3. WKS
        +2
        21 August 2014 10: 44
        Quote: vrach
        I agree. For philosophical and esoteric texts, you need to select a separate column on the site. Maybe the author is trying, but I do not like such literature. Something more practical for me ...

        So you can not read ... Who makes?
    2. +2
      21 August 2014 09: 08
      Apparently everything is about the same thing, about painful, but somewhat messy.
    3. +2
      21 August 2014 09: 54
      Quote: Eragon
      What is the article about ??? request

      Yeah. The author did not in vain share doubts at the beginning of the article. The ability to write well is really not part of his dignity. So that kind of thought is captured (in my opinion), but the presentation ...
    4. 0
      21 August 2014 10: 21
      In fact - the goddamn filosovs ...
    5. +1
      21 August 2014 12: 11
      Greetingsyu all!
      Quote: Eragon
      What is the article about ???

      That "Ukraine by its example has generated (in my mind) a system of evidence that confirms (in my mind) the absolute regression of Western consciousness and reason as a whole ..."
      ... this is not a secret, because for them the most important thing is shown below (I did not want to offend the monkey)
  5. +1
    21 August 2014 09: 04
    Sometimes it is necessary to remind the world that we are Russians and Russia is something more than a state on the world map.
    1. +1
      21 August 2014 10: 02
      Strange as it may seem, the West has not reached the point of assimilating the Russian world, Russian culture and Russian science within itself (assimilation is the loss by one part of society (or a whole ethnos) of its distinctive features and their replacement by the features of another society, mixing of tribes), because everything was in their hands!

      Maybe at a subconscious level, the West was afraid that they would assimilate it ?!) am
      After all, the values ​​that have been and are being implanted in the West are a one-way ticket, a way to nowhere! They once again tried to destroy the Russians, this time in the most dangerous way, to destroy spirituality, the very origins of Russian self-awareness, but apparently this attempt (hopefully the last one) also suffered FIASCO! Two years ago, I could not even hope that Our people would be able to get rid of the shackles of false values ​​and return to their origins, but THIS IS IT, the ice has broken! As the well-known Russophobe Otto von Bismarck said: "The Russians harness for a long time, but they go fast." Now hold on, let's ride with the breeze!)
  6. +11
    21 August 2014 09: 05
    Ukraine, by its example, generated (in my mind) a system of evidence confirming (in my mind) the absolute regression of Western consciousness and the mind as a whole

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/640/ufkc452.jpg
    1. +1
      21 August 2014 09: 12
      National identity in Ukraine in abundance, only the quality is somehow wrong! Pride is not based on anything! Since the awareness of the people of themselves as an ethnos should be based on the traditions given by their ancestors and carefully protected, transmitted from generation to generation
      1. bda
        bda
        0
        21 August 2014 13: 22
        miv110 RU Today, 09:12 ↑

        National identity in Ukraine in abundance, only the quality is somehow wrong! Pride is not based on anything! Since the awareness of the people of themselves as an ethnos should be based on the traditions given by their ancestors and carefully protected, transmitted from generation to generation

        I agree with you absolutely!
        It's just that it's too early for us to calm down on this: at the very least in Ukraine, they still develop a common identity (to a large extent on the basis of the "enemy image" in the form of mockels). Whether it is bad or good, but something common is drawn.
        Unfortunately, everything in our country is much worse in this matter. In our country, among the Russian state-forming ethnos, the destruction of national identity continues - they are trying to turn it into faceless "Russians" (a local version of the "common people" formations imposed by globalizers), then they even declare that "there is no such people - it was, but it swam" etc.
        And the most alarming call here is not Biryulyov and other pogroms, but the fact that a simple question: "Who are you?" - the overwhelming majority of Russians now answer not "Russian" or "Orthodox", as they did a hundred years ago, but say whatever they like: "accountant", "boxer", "taxi driver", "alpha male", "brown-haired man", "student" , "pensioner", "military", "hunter", "anarchist", "enlightened savage", "hard worker", etc. - hundreds of options, breaking us into hundreds, thousands and millions of identities that are not needed by anyone but ourselves.
  7. 0
    21 August 2014 09: 06
    interesting to read, but somehow generally, without specifics. philosophy in general
  8. +2
    21 August 2014 09: 07
    "Let NASA break off, they spent 25 million dollars on the invention of a pen that can write in zero gravity! And the Russians have always used a simple pencil without any problems!"

    Again I remember Zadornov: "Well, you are stupid!"
    1. 0
      21 August 2014 10: 30
      About the pencil is not true! Already many astronauts have said that in weightlessness you can’t use a pencil in any case! The stylus particles crumble during writing and can get into the respiratory system, clog the filters. Our, like the Americans, use special pens in space. With respect to all who read my koment))). And at the expense of stupid Americans, I support !!!)))
  9. +3
    21 August 2014 09: 07
    (in my mind)
    if the Russians suddenly disappeared completely from Earth, then there would be two options:
    1. The earth is deserted and only winds sweep over radiation wastelands ...
    2. instead of states - concentration camps, enclaves, some more, others less ...

    so - to live and survive the Russian need not only for themselves, but as if contrary to ...))
  10. 0
    21 August 2014 09: 08
    And we have long known that they (in the West) are stupid, angry, envious, vengeful perverts, capable of meanness and nastiness in relation to Russia, we just try not to be offended by fools.
  11. +2
    21 August 2014 09: 08
    Quote: Eragon
    What is the article about ??? request

    About space.
    1. 0
      21 August 2014 10: 29
      In-in! And I also became thoughtful ...
  12. +8
    21 August 2014 09: 09
    Strange as it may seem, the West has not reached the point of assimilating the Russian world, Russian culture and Russian science

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/492/msez116.jpg
  13. +2
    21 August 2014 09: 09
    All history speaks of the mistakes of the West in relation to Russia. And every time they wiped their bloody muzzle, after another mistake, they never learned anything, and among them there were quite wise people, like Bismarck, who warned about the danger of confrontation with Russia! But as they say: "The broken one is itching!" Well, at least we remembered one good proverb (suitable for their revenge): "Hope is the food of losers"! And they still have not been able to understand that they are simply LOSERS and their loss is predetermined by History!
  14. wunno
    -1
    21 August 2014 09: 10
    MANDATORY FULLY POSMET RUB !!!
    They leaked a database of data about us all! close access to your data as long as possible (find yourself and click close access), there are your photos, addresses, phone numbers, copies of your passport and other documents! Here - www.zumlink.de/xqvo
  15. +2
    21 August 2014 09: 13
    Dear Sitnikov Author, however, in your mind and understanding funny things are happening.
    I'm not sure that the article is on a site called "Military Review", however, this is a great illustration of the fact that people are all different, with their own opinions and views.
  16. +1
    21 August 2014 09: 16
    philosophy, but nevertheless I want to conclude: there is no need to rush history, you still need to understand once and for all - Russia is 1/6 of the land world, its original culture, which has grown up for millennia, by definition cannot be assimilated (dissolved, it earthly culture and human civilization as a whole, but American culture, which is a little over 200 years old) is really a kind of assimilation product, where there is nothing basic (an ethnos nucleus), some igridients of world cultures, a kind of cultural hodgepodge. What can this "hodgepodge" give birth to besides itself ...
  17. Sergeqr
    +1
    21 August 2014 09: 31
    . Especially this:
    they spent 25 million dollars on the invention of a pen that can write in zero gravity! And Russians without problems always used a simple pencil!

    They spent on new developments that automatically follow the idea.

    And about the pencil ...
    Do not tell everyone our secrets. hi laughing
    1. 0
      21 August 2014 10: 34
      Zadornov told them, stupid, a lot of things, to which they themselves would not have thought of.
  18. Everest2014
    0
    21 August 2014 09: 32
    And again, hello, against the backdrop of sanctions, our media are bashfully silent about the graveyard superjet consisting of foreign parts. And about the contracts for his purchase shut up, IT does not need anyone except those who have made money on it. Hooray patriots, umumat.
  19. melnik
    +1
    21 August 2014 09: 44
    The success of the West is in one thing, and the only thing we need to adopt from them is the person who came up with a useful thing should make money on it. All!! And this does not contradict either Christian morality or the idea of ​​social justice. Nobody in the world dares to throw a stone at Bill Gates, the richest man on the planet. And while this is so, America will rule the world. But they are slowly but steadily moving off this road, this is also true
  20. +1
    21 August 2014 09: 49
    professional habit to cook suits
    Are you a lawyer? Or a bailiff?
    which led to the quintessence of evil - to the Sakharov deuterium of lithium 6LiD, exclusively in the transition of the individual’s SELF-CONSCIOUSNESS
    What is this casuistry? Also an occupational disease?
    1. +1
      21 August 2014 10: 37
      laughing good I agree with you completely! What nonsense!
  21. 0
    21 August 2014 10: 21
    Quote: Uncle
    professional habit to cook suits
    Are you a lawyer? Or a bailiff?
    which led to the quintessence of evil - to the Sakharov deuterium of lithium 6LiD, exclusively in the transition of the individual’s SELF-CONSCIOUSNESS
    What is this casuistry? Also an occupational disease?

    This is an attempt to optimize in one sentence the evolution of mankind - from stone to copper and iron as "WE", and further to D. Sakharov as "I", i.e. the solution by an individual of the problem of transportability of a thermonuclear charge (powdery deutride), which was really envied, then, by American nuclear physicists!
    Although maybe you’re right))), sometimes I find myself extremely truncating the story, thinking that everyone understands everything and that it’s not worth popularizing the obvious.
    I will definitely take into account the criticism)) and will not continue to shift my "inflamed consciousness" to any carriers in the network, I will leave it to myself and the students.
    1. 0
      21 August 2014 11: 53
      Your article is really messy, but I plus it!
      Everything is correct - in fact, the centuries-old civilization did not leave traces on the people who govern the United States: they still think in terms of the Stone Age, trying to make outcasts entire countries and peoples, whose policies and positions they do not like for one reason or another, they even use the term - "rogue countries". And to such countries, it turns out, you can no longer apply the norms of international law, their governments can be overthrown, a blockade can be set up, not giving a damn that ordinary people are suffering; they can be bombed and destroyed in any way! Likewise, a person expelled from a tribe in the Stone Age could be killed by anyone.
      Thus, millennia of development passed for the US leadership in vain, and, looking in the face of truth, it is safe to say: you are savages, gentlemen - and you must be treated like savages, not even savages - like animals that do not understand the norms human morality, no laws established by people. It is necessary to give them hands, and if they deserve it, then on the head - or on the ass - all these expressions are figurative, everyone can find words to their liking. And in no case do not give in to their dictatorship - they perceive any concession not as an invitation to discussion, to a dialogue on the discussion of the subject of the problem, but as a manifestation of weakness, trying in any way to deceive, belittle, force to give up a partner - but what’s the partner? face the truth - the enemy. The very existence of our country is a challenge for the United States and its European satellites.
  22. +2
    21 August 2014 10: 23
    I disagree with the author of the article. In my opinion, in the West, the most clearly manifested individualism of the individual. Education, advertising, lifestyle are "tailored" for the individual. Children after the age of 18 are no longer supported by their parents, and “grateful” children take their elderly parents to nursing homes. In the West, it is not common for grandparents to sit with their grandchildren while parents are at work. As a result, the connection between generations is disrupted, and, in my opinion, nations are weakening. Pay attention to the Chechens, Dagestanis - they have clans, the opinion of the elders in the clan is usually not discussed. In the clan, the principle is one for all, all for one. By the way, before the Soviet industrialization, there was a similar situation in central Russia.
    Another example, before the collapse of the Union, in our area there were compact settlements of Germans (since Catherine’s times). In these settlements, almost all were relatives. The level of development of German villages significantly exceeded the level of development of neighboring non-German villages.
    Now the nation is being eroded en masse. It is generally accepted that a child should leave his parents after school, often to another region. After 1-2 generations, the connection with the "branches" of the family is lost and any kind of mutual assistance ceases. Accordingly, the nation as a whole is weakened.
  23. +1
    21 August 2014 10: 24
    Throughout its history, Russia has repelled the attacks of the invaders. Maybe that’s why, in our culture, an individual, an individual, is so little valued. But, and in this paradox, the Russians gave the world many scientists and inventors.
    Our culture, traditions conceal the treasures left there by the wisdom, life experience of their ancestors.
    To find the way to the future, you need to look back and look back.
  24. 0
    21 August 2014 10: 48
    the author, the article clearly shines pity that Europe did not assimilate Russia. and so: FIG to YOU, SUPPRESS !!!
    1. 0
      21 August 2014 11: 05
      not only choke, but die without Russian help.
      1. 0
        21 August 2014 11: 34
        Do not die, but rot!
  25. 0
    21 August 2014 11: 04
    our media is bashfully silent about the graveyard superjet consisting of foreign parts.

    Boeing also consists of parts, including ours, of titanium, for example! So what?
  26. 0
    21 August 2014 11: 30
    Too lazy in Photoshop to rummage. I think I understand.
  27. 0
    21 August 2014 11: 36
    The Minister of Economic Development and Trade of Ukraine Pavel Sheremeta resigned, Interfax reports. This information was confirmed in the Department of Information and Communication of the Secretariat of the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine.

    The resignation letter was written by Sheremet on August 20, after which it was sent to the Verkhovna Rada. The reasons for the resignation are unknown.

    “Instead of continuing to fight with the yesterday’s system, I decided to focus on working with tomorrow’s people who will create tomorrow’s system,” Sheremeta wrote on Facebook.

    Previously reported on the possible resignation of the minister.
  28. 0
    21 August 2014 11: 48
    incomprehensible wording. we-being is a community. self-being is individualism. in the West he is just :) and community, community, work for society by each individual - this is the traditional power of Russia
  29. +2
    21 August 2014 11: 48
    "The earth was shaking - like our breasts,
    Mixed in a bunch of horses, people,
    And the volleys of a thousand guns
    Merged into a drawn-out howl ... "

    The article is a verbal vinaigrette (in my understanding). Get it down, then we'll take it apart! Neanderthal man from the cave and Keldysh, open-hearth furnace and Putin, NASA and Steve Jobs. It seems that the author just wanted to show off his erudition a little, but it didn't work out very well. For example, physics is not just the science of the movement of matter. "Physics is a science that studies the simplest and at the same time the most general laws of nature, the structure of matter, the movement of bodies, their interaction and much more." (Textbook Physics grade 7). Primitivism is not always the path to success. And by the way, as everyone knows very well, the pinnacle of evolution is not Homo sapiens at all, but a glass of good cognac with a slice of lemon. )))) Actually for the sake of this masterpiece, nature allowed a person to appear on this planet!)))
    Very, really do not want to offend the author of the article. But .... Stitch better suits, they (in my opinion) will turn out better for you.

    "The trouble is, since the pies will start the cobbler oven,
    And the boots are for the cake-maker ... "
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    2. 0
      21 August 2014 14: 37
      Cognac (if good), and with a lemon .... God is a bad man with you. request
  30. +2
    21 August 2014 11: 56
    BERLIN, August 21. / Corr. ITAR-TASS Vladimir Smelov. The Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Pavel Klimkin demanded that the West provide military assistance to his country to combat the militias of the proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics. He stated this in an interview with the Cologne newspaper Express.
    Lugansk
    German Foreign Ministry: Germany does not intend to provide military assistance to Ukraine
    “I think it would be quite logical to provide Ukraine with technical and military assistance to fight terrorism, similar to what is happening now in the case of Iraq,” he said on the eve of the upcoming visit of German Chancellor Angela Merkel to Kiev on August 23.
    "This fight is in the fundamental interests of the European Union," he added.
    In addition, according to the head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, Ukraine needs "assistance in the political, economic and public spheres." "We need a kind of 'Marshall plan' for Ukraine," Pavel Klimkin said. "And if after the Second World War the United States played the main role in the implementation of the Marshall Plan, now Germany could take over the leadership of this historic mission," he believes.
    "War against NATO, a war imposed on Europe"
    Earlier, the Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada, Alexander Turchinov, also stated that Kiev feels the need for Western help with military equipment.
    Ukraine is fighting in difficult economic and financial conditions. That is why we need help. We will return it, pay it back, but right now such support is important
    Pavel Klimkin
    Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine
    He assessed what is happening in Ukraine as "a large-scale war in which terrorists, saboteurs and weapons are used." This situation, according to Turchynov, is "a challenge not only for Ukraine, but also a war imposed on Europe, a war against NATO."
    The chairman of the Verkhovna Rada has again turned to the West with a request for military supplies. “We need modern weapons, aviation, anti-aircraft equipment,” the speaker concretized.
    SEE ALSO
    Turchinov: Ukraine in 5 years will be able to join the EU and NATO
    British media: West ignores humanitarian catastrophe in southeast Ukraine
    The UN reported a sharp increase in the number of internally displaced persons in Ukraine
  31. 0
    21 August 2014 11: 58
    ...... Some kind of lawsuit is incomplete ........ there are no claims ....... the address of the defendant is not indicated ....... state duty is not paid ...... evidence require complex examinations, including in the field of literature ........ recourse
  32. +2
    21 August 2014 12: 09
    It seems to me that I understood the author’s thought. Or maybe it just seems. Progress begins when we begin to stand out from the society of the state of WE, concerned about the survival and state of this WE. These I do not separate themselves from WE. They are just looking for ways to increase the lifespan of this WE. The more we are concerned about the prosperity of WE, the faster progress is. The task of the I, who control the life of WE, is not to feed WE before the squeal of a pig, but to create conditions for the appearance in the collective WE of as many I as possible, not tearing themselves away from WE, but looking for the way. This requires higher education, the promotion of these selves and the preservation of knowledge.
  33. leond
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    21 August 2014 12: 33
    Unfortunately, the article only proves the stability of social stereotypes. At the beginning of the twentieth century, the Russian intelligentsia proclaimed the Russian people to be God's chosen people, thereby separating Russia from the rest of the world. In general, this feature, the desire to separate one’s people from the rest of the world, is characteristic not only of Russians. For example, Jews also called their people God-chosen. And what did this lead to? Moreover, arrogance appeared in the Jewish features, and after that neglect of the life and interests of people of other nationalities. And as a result, the Jews were scattered around the world.
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    21 August 2014 12: 48
    The German publication excludes the possibility of a Russian invasion of Ukraine, but warns: if Kiev does not agree to conclude peace, the country will face a war until complete ruin.
    This opinion was expressed in an interview with Der Spiegel by the editor-in-chief of the journal Russia in Global Affairs Fedor Lukyanov. The conclusion that Russia will refrain from introducing troops into Ukraine was made by Lukyanov from a recent speech by Russian President Vladimir Putin in Crimea.
    This was a signal to all those who believed in the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Everyone will have to make concessions. Eastern Ukraine should receive autonomy status. It would be meaningful to create a political wing of the rebel movement, like Sinn Fein in Ireland ... The gas issue should be clarified in its entirety: Ukraine's debts, gas tariffs, transit problem. Another important question: who will pay for the restoration of Ukraine? The fourth area of ​​negotiations is the freedom of Ukraine from military alliances ... It is necessary to fix in writing that Ukraine will not become a member of NATO.
    Moreover, Lukyanov does not believe in the split of the Russian elite because of Vladimir Putin’s policy: “Even if there are dissatisfied among the elite, what can they do about Putin’s popularity among the population, which is only growing?”
    The more pressure from the West, the more often the average Russian thinks: come on, we are not some kind of North Korea to be treated like that! In the end, many in Russia still consider Russia a great power, and for the last 25 years we have only been doing that we are giving in.
    According to the political scientist, ideologically, Ukraine was “at a standstill”, and politically and economically, it was on the verge of collapse due to the fact that Kiev insists on a quick resolution of the crisis by military means.
    If the army stops halfway, citizens will ask: and why did we sacrifice so many? But, even if the army in the east succeeds, one should be prepared for the start of a guerrilla war,
    concluded Lukyanov.
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    21 August 2014 13: 02
    It is no coincidence that in the Paleolithic era the most terrible punishment was the expulsion from the tribe (from the cave), as historians at least say.
    - they, the exiles, and moved civilization, not all, but the survivors, except for all the skills and knowledge known in the tribe, they acquired additional, then returned to the tribe more powerful, and they taxied, or in the neighboring valley created a new one, by the way, mainly people settled on Earth, all this can be observed in modern tribes located at the Upper Paleolithic stage.
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    21 August 2014 13: 07
    A slurred stream of thought.
  37. Zubrminsk
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    21 August 2014 13: 18
    The article is just some kind of a puzzle ... I read it twice to understand the meaning in detail.
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      21 August 2014 15: 22
      Quote: ZubrMinsk
      The article is just some kind of a puzzle ... I read it twice to understand the meaning in detail.

      I did not bother, quiet delirium. More relevant: "Europe needs to exclude the ruble from the international financial turnover, said the Deputy Chairman of the European Parliament Ryszard Czarnecki." The Russian ruble should cease to be a convertible currency, "he said, speaking on Wednesday in the Seim of Poland. Czarnecki was elected MEP from Poland on the party list of the conservative party "Law and Justice" ". Lyakhs are not appeased, an attempt to shoot themselves in the head. To sober them up, you need a cold. Ay Miller !!!!!
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    21 August 2014 15: 57
    Thanks to everyone who understood!
    It turned out cool))), caught (as expected) and "militant dumbass" and eaters "tops"! The article is a pure provocation, a game of synthesis of sociology, philosophy, KSE ... but not history at all, because it is just a commemoration of the dead according to the scribbled tablets pancake)))), however))) I’m not clever enough a), some were just bitten by mad dog - calm down pliz))) I will try not to touch your lofty feelings and deepest knowledge of historicism, certainly this joke is not attributable to those readers whom I call - Hanzha, covered with plebeian prejudices.
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      21 August 2014 16: 28
      Sorry, verbiage.
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    21 August 2014 17: 36
    Your article, Sergei Sitnikov, is a complete slag. Where is the mistake? In the understanding of being Ukrainians and their godfathers? What are the definitions of "We are being", "I am being"? Who taught you this and where, and did you? Some kind of empty gag with far-fetched attention to the development of society through being the problems of Ukraine and the degradation of the United States. And how cleverly it turned out for you: who did not understand - that stuck up plebeian. Almost "hto not skache - that b". Moderate your pride, otherwise none of the serious visitors at VO will perceive you as a thinking person. Good luck.
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  40. Serg7281
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    21 August 2014 21: 55
    It is better for the author to continue to "cook" claims, and not to collect everything in a heap: "We are being", "I am being". Not an article, but some kind of porridge from a set of words.

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