"In Donetsk, all the mines are"

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"In Donetsk, all the mines are"“It’s impossible to work under current conditions. The coal industry of Donbass is simply being killed, there is no power supply, mines are being heated, ”said Mikhail Krylov, chairman of the Donetsk Independent Trade Union of Miners, to the VIEW newspaper. He told how the bulk of the miners relate to what is happening in the South-East of Ukraine and what could happen next with the Donetsk mines.

On the eve, the Komsomolets Donbassa mine was shelled, after which a fire broke out on its territory.

According to the latest data, 30 miners are still underground in a de-energized mine.
The press center of the Donetsk People's Republic told RIA "News»That the security specialists of the Ministry of Fuel and Energy Complex of the DPR urgently left for the Kirovskoye - Shakhtersk area to ensure the work of the power engineers in restoring the power supply to the mine.

On Sunday, as a result of fighting in the mines to them. Lenin and them. Kalinin enterprise "Artemugol" in Donetsk Gorlovka turned off the electricity, and under the ground were nine miners.

Before that, power engineers had to restore power supply in several mines, one and a half hundred miners were rescued.

The Donbass Fuel-Energy Company reported that in the mining district of the Donetsk region, due to hostilities, coal mining has not been conducted since August 1.

Donbass has always been the main industrial center of Ukraine. And although the country was on the verge of an energy crisis because of interruptions in coal supplies, the Kiev authorities continued to bomb the region, destroying its economy.

The fact that what is happening in the Donbass, the newspaper VIEW Chairman of the Donetsk Independent Trade Union of Miners Mikhail Krylov told the newspaper VIEW.

VIEW: Mikhail Alekseevich, in what conditions do the miners of the region have to work now?

Mikhail Krylov: Basically all the mines are. Yesterday we shot at one of our largest mines, Komsomolets Donbassa (located in the city of Kirovsk, Donetsk region). Fortunately, most people managed to get out of there in time. At that moment there were only those who were engaged in its repair. And so, of course, it is impossible to work under the current conditions. The coal industry of Donbass is simply being killed, there is no power supply, mines are being heated.

VIEW: Is it only in Donetsk? And in other cities in the region the same situation?

M.K .: In Donetsk, all the mines are. But in other cities I can’t even say for sure: we have a very bad connection now, often there is no connection with neighboring cities.

VIEW: In the Lugansk region, the situation is probably not better?

M.K .: I think the situation there is even worse. Although I have not been there for a month and a half, but it’s not easier for them - that’s for sure.

LOOK: What moods now prevail among the miners? Are there any plans to draw attention to your problems?

M.K .: It is useless to contact someone, talk about your problems. We have already grown out of children's pants ... Therefore, two mining divisions have already been formed here (fighting under the flag of the DPR - approx. LOOK). And in each of them 15 – 20 people are recorded per day, and sometimes more.

VIEW: Is there any hope that in the foreseeable future mines will work again?

M.K .: At first, many of ours just went on vacation. And then they saw that everything was bombed out, that the mines were not working, there was practically no water in the city, there was no electricity, soon there would be nothing. One of the mines in the suburbs of Donetsk is now reminiscent of the Pavlov House - remember the one that was defended during the Battle of Stalingrad?

VIEW: And what about the families of the miners? They managed to evacuate?

M.K .: Unfortunately, there is no place to take them out. Those who had such an opportunity, even earlier brought their families to Russia or somewhere else. But now, frankly, there is no such possibility. We are in the ring. And we know that these freaks, “Natsik”, scoff and shoot, including civilians. By the way, I myself, frankly, are not in favor of the miners leaving. They must protect their home.

VIEW: It is said that after the outbreak of hostilities in the Donbass there was a disengagement of miners. So, there are several trade unions of miners, the leader of one of which, Nikolai Volynko, for example, actively appears in the media and supports the Kiev authorities.

M.K .: I would not call it delimitation. Those who have a head on their shoulders, have long understood who can be trusted, and who can not. Yes, there are some individuals ... The same Volynko. But almost everyone left him. People just laugh at him.

VIEW: How quickly can be restored mines and jobs for them, if in the near future the situation will normalize?

M.K .: It is hard to hope for something. But I can say that, for example, the restoration of the Oktyabrsky mine will take at least one and a half months and investments of about 150 million hryvnias (417 million rubles). But how much money is needed to re-start mining at our mines, now, probably, no one can even calculate.

VIEW: It turns out that all the miners of Donbass are now sitting without work? How do you manage to survive?

M.K .: Yes, this is a real humanitarian catastrophe. Out of the situation, each in its own way. Someone has some old savings, many live in retirement. My children, for example, who were also unemployed, now live on my retirement. Or humanitarian aid comes with free lunches. But of course, this is not life.
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  1. DMB-88
    +24
    20 August 2014 15: 01
    it is not clear how during the hostilities the miners still manage to work! and whose mines are they working on?
    1. +21
      20 August 2014 15: 07
      Akhmetovsky. But don’t worry, the junta budget is very, very unlikely to see his money.
      According to the article. I wonder what the junta thinks about when coal mines are bombed? With the cessation of Russian gas supplies to Ukraine, Donbass coal became the only energy carrier in Ukraine. The junta, apparently, decided to threaten him. Then a logical question arises. What does the same Parashenko think of heating his residence in winter? There is a feeling that the junta is not hoping to survive until winter. Those. she's just a kamikaze. Who then needs it and why - think for yourself.
      1. DMB-88
        +13
        20 August 2014 15: 12
        Quote: Colorado
        What does the same Parashenko think of heating his residence in winter?


        they will find the parashenk what to warm, but what will happen to the residents of Donbass with the destroyed infrastructure - that’s the big question!
        1. +10
          20 August 2014 15: 14
          He will not have any residence by winter ...
        2. Underwood
          -5
          20 August 2014 17: 33
          Quote: DMB-88
          what will happen to the inhabitants of Donbass with the destroyed infrastructure-- this is a big question!

          not big. and no question. bargaining chip. everything is more cynical and simpler. two months before the heating season. The Russians arranged the Holodomor, it’s like twice two.
          1. Alex Ivanov
            0
            20 August 2014 21: 39
            Fingers have not erased, pour guano on Russia? I read your valuable comments, I want to ask: do you have a backup airfield? And it will turn out like in a joke about a parrot and a drunk in an airplane: if there are no wings, why are you so greyhound?
          2. +1
            21 August 2014 06: 25

            Conversation on the tram of Dneprodzerzhinsk. The guy was clearly tired of dill in the head of those around him. angry
        3. Cadet787
          +1
          20 August 2014 23: 30
          20.08.2014 - 21: 35
          Part of the Russian humanitarian convoy entered the territory of Ukraine | Russian spring
          The first four trucks with the help of residents of Donbass pass control at a border checkpoint in the Rostov region.
          Trucks of the Russian convoy with humanitarian aid to Donetsk, Lugansk and other cities of eastern Ukraine pass control at the border. The start of the convoy from a parking lot in the Russian city of Donetsk, Rostov Region, came as a surprise to journalists. Four trucks drove into the checkpoint, another 12 cars are being prepared for shipment.
          Just four KamAZs left the parking lot of the local bus fleet and started off to the checkpoint. The barrier has opened, and in the next few minutes, the first four trucks will cross the Russian-Ukrainian border, a LifeNews correspondent said live.
          On August 19, the Russian Foreign Ministry announced that an agreement was reached between the head of the Russian department, Sergey Lavrov, and the president of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), Peter Maurer, to start delivering aid for residents of Donbass. On August 15, diplomats officially announced that the preparation of a humanitarian action to assist residents of the Donbass entered its final stage.
          In total, Russia sent two thousand tons of humanitarian aid for the population of Novorossia: 400 tons of cereals, 100 tons of sugar, 62 tons of baby food, 54 tons of medicines, 12 thousand sleeping bags, 69 power plants of various capacities, as well as other food, drinking water and first items necessary.
      2. +10
        20 August 2014 15: 21
        Kolomoisky gangs destroy the business of Akhmetov, who was the richest in dill, will now be a beggar!
        1. +6
          20 August 2014 16: 01
          He will not be a beggar for sure. Such people always have a stock of NZ for a rainy day. He definitely has a couple of hundred million cash. And in various assets abroad and up to a billion will be.
        2. Underwood
          -4
          20 August 2014 20: 44
          Quote: Sibom
          now beggar!

          Wow! You compare your living with it.
          Beggar?
          haha ...
      3. +11
        20 August 2014 15: 23
        Quote: Colorado
        What does the same Parashenko think of heating his residence in winter?

        And what is needed on the "Cote d'Azur"?
        The fact that the mines are not protected like the apple of an eye says just that the USA gave the order to destroy the country's infrastructure. And these sectarians will do everything.
        something else surprises .... the miners are surprising, I myself have defended them more than once for two months - I said that the mine cannot be stopped .... but the production stopped, and where "We are miners, we will demolish you!" ????
      4. DMB-88
        +4
        20 August 2014 15: 23
        [media = http: //]

        Pavel Gubarev’s interview on confiscation explicitly says there
        1. -3
          20 August 2014 15: 52
          Quote: DMB-88
          [media = http: //]

          Pavel Gubarev’s interview on confiscation explicitly says there

          Yes, you attach Gubarev at least somewhere! There is no region, but there is a people's governor of the region! Why, one asks? Interview run, hand out? Let it fight better!
      5. 511
        +4
        20 August 2014 15: 31
        Yes, the mines to bomb it Poroshenko precisely zombified by the Americans.
        1. zzz
          zzz
          +2
          20 August 2014 16: 45
          Quote: 511
          Yes, the mines to bomb it Poroshenko precisely zombified by the Americans.


          And I think that he doesn’t bomb the mines, but Kolomoisky. In order to destroy Akhmetov.
      6. +4
        20 August 2014 15: 33
        Ahmed enterprises hit.
        . Ukraine dealt another blow to its own economy. Four metallurgical enterprises supplying products to many countries of the world have stopped work. There is no way to restore them now. The flow of foreign exchange earnings into the treasury is stopped. How does this threaten the country and who is interested in this?
        The official announcement of the largest Ukrainian metallurgical holding Metinvest is like an exploded bomb. In the Kiev media, however, it went almost unnoticed. Due to power lines damaged after powerful shelling, four of the largest plants in Donbass - Yenakievsky metallurgical, Koksokhimprom, Khartsyzsky pipe and Avdeevsky coke-chemical - completely stopped production.
        1. Underwood
          0
          20 August 2014 17: 41
          Quote: a52333
          The official announcement of the largest Ukrainian metallurgical holding Metinvest is like a detonated bomb.

          yah?
          Since the second shift on August 19, the Samsonovskaya-Zapadnaya mine, part of the Krasnodonugol association of the Metinvest Group, has been operating normally. Coal mining and development work is underway. During the day, the planned indicators are met.
      7. +1
        20 August 2014 16: 02
        Quote: Colorado
        What does the same Parashenko think of heating his residence in winter?

        He will not forget himself, his beloved. And gas for himself and his gang will find. By the way, there is hot water in Kiev in V. Rada; it is quite by accident that the boiler house serving them works.
        1. +3
          20 August 2014 17: 01
          But for Kiev you can not worry. Their mayor, the great thinker and philosopher of our time, can already publish a book of his pearls by winter. Kievans will warm up in the winter, burning his books in potbelly stoves. He suggested to other people to prepare for the ground and warm broilers, which in the current situation sounds quite menacing. Especially if you imagine what he did with his two deputies, so that four of them stayed in the cabinet ....
      8. +2
        20 August 2014 16: 25
        Quote: Colorado
        Is he the same Parashenko thinking of heating his residence in the winter?

        And who told you that he will survive until the winter?
      9. predator.3
        +2
        20 August 2014 16: 40
        VIEW: It turns out that all the miners of Donbass are now sitting without work? How do you manage to survive?

        M.K .: Yes, this is a real humanitarian disaster. Each one has their own way out. Someone has some old savings, many live in retirement. My children, for example, who also lost their jobs, now live on my retirement. Or humanitarian aid comes with free meals. But of course, this is not life.


        "Kalash" in hand and to the front!
      10. +4
        20 August 2014 17: 11
        Yes, she’s not going to survive until the winter topple over to the owners at any time. In my opinion, they themselves go and lead the country to Maidan 2, and they all hope for a miracle, then give the USSR property to them, then an overpayment for gas, and why work when you can shout: GIVE, GIVE, GIVE.
      11. 0
        20 August 2014 19: 39
        Plus, though not quite right, you understand the situation. Here the interests of Kolomoisky and Akhmetov clashed. Already mentioned the property of Rinat on the territory of Kolomoisky. Does he just sponsor death squads? I just can’t imagine how it is planned to restore acquired overwork after a victory.
      12. Deripaska
        0
        21 August 2014 00: 49
        Pshetsky coal will rush to buy if it reaches winter.
    2. +5
      20 August 2014 16: 00
      Quote: DMB-88
      it is not clear how during the hostilities the miners still manage to work! and whose mines are they working on?


      Exactly. The war is actually going on there. Mining work is already dangerous, and even during the fighting ...

      Quote: Colorado
      I wonder what the junta thinks about when coal mines are bombed? With the cessation of Russian gas supplies to Ukraine, Donbass coal became the only energy carrier in Ukraine. The junta, apparently, decided to threaten him.


      Dill on the censor writes that they will do without Donbass "low-quality" coal, and will buy Polish, more high-calorie, although more expensive. But dill say that they are not beggars and can afford it. This "not beggars" especially touched me.
      1. +2
        20 August 2014 16: 45
        Quote: mamont5
        Dill on the censor writes that they will do without the Donbass "low-quality" coal, but they will buy Polish, more high-calorie ...

        they will spread it on bread ... laughing
      2. Starmos
        +3
        20 August 2014 18: 38
        They are the children of Salon or the children of Herojamsala fool
    3. +5
      20 August 2014 17: 18
      RussianRussian
      Guys! But I thought - Russians are a military specialty.
      Our fathers, grandfathers, great-grandfathers, great-great-grandfathers fought, and this share will not pass us in the 21st century. But what to do, such is life, one must be prepared.
      Here are our ancestors.

      ian-infantry-1200x400.jpg
      Well, you estimate, even if you start with Peter the Great - how fast did we fight? AND??? For Crimea, beaten by Swedes, French, Prussians, Turks, Britons. Then the revolution was stirred up and the intervention and all sorts of Basmachis kept.
      What do we do right now? Yes, continue to hold on, fight and multiply!
      IN SHORT THEIR WOMEN WILL BE OUR WE WILL WIN! "!!!!
      1. 0
        21 August 2014 02: 04
        Quote: Floock
        What do we do right now? Yes, continue to hold on, fight and multiply!
        IN SHORT THEIR WOMEN WILL BE OUR WE WILL WIN! "!!!!

        bad with "breeding"
        The picture is good
        Vasily Nestenko. "Defend Sevastopol"
        Among the heroes of Sevastopol there are many Ukrainians ... and what to say, they fought together.
    4. Rusty shark
      +1
      20 August 2014 20: 03
      These are vassals mines of the former overlord, which are on state subsidies. sad
      1. +2
        20 August 2014 20: 51
        The potential of the miners is huge - 140 mines of 2-2,5 thousand people. on average for each. Total 280 people. If even half took the weapon, then I will not envy the Kiev authorities. hi
    5. 0
      21 August 2014 12: 19
      Well, while some are shedding blood, others are earning money for the opponents of the first, instead of freeing their land from dill together. weeks of unity among the people and they don’t know what they want, or rather know, the introduction of the Russian Federation’s troops, but based on the foregoing, they will never wait.
  2. +10
    20 August 2014 15: 02
    The deliberate destruction of infrastructure and industry is the work of the junta at the direction of the owners.
    1. +3
      20 August 2014 15: 34
      of course, they also want to sharpen these lands under shale gas.
    2. avt
      +5
      20 August 2014 15: 41
      Quote: Carlos
      The deliberate destruction of infrastructure and industry is the work of the junta at the direction of the owners.

      request So they were told back in the fall of last year that it would be so! Why be surprised? A simple statement of the fact with the date stamp of the forecast of the development of the offensive of the Ruins on the subordinate US of Ukraine.
      Quote: sever.56
      "To spite my mom - I'll frostbite my ears." I. diots.

      No . The greatest people in the jungle - Banderlog. It's time for them to grow their tails to be different from us. It will be seen right away - once with a tail, then it is definitely not a scythe, quite a visible velikoykr - a banderlog. By the way, how do you like a new pearl from the giant of thought Kiev gelding Klitschko - “On the air of the TSN TV channel, he said that he had two deputies,“ four of whom have been in the cabinet for a month already. ” At the same time, the head of the capital noted that he did not know why it was impossible to appoint them. " laughing good And here we are talking about industry!
  3. +10
    20 August 2014 15: 03
    Kiev junta nevermind that the Donetsk mines are, and some are not subject to restoration. They have one annoying thought that interrupts all the others: how to annoy Russia more. They are obsessed with this idea, everything else is on the side. What can you take from them if they are sick all head.
    1. +2
      20 August 2014 15: 10
      "To spite my mom - I'll frostbite my ears." I. diots.
      1. +2
        20 August 2014 15: 14
        No, not to spite mom, but to the joy of the owner.
    2. 0
      20 August 2014 20: 18
      Quote: Giant thought
      Kiev junta nevermind that the Donetsk mines are, and some are not subject to restoration. They have one annoying thought that interrupts all the others: how to annoy Russia more. They are obsessed with this idea, everything else is on the side. What can you take from them if they are sick all head.

      Not everything is on the side, because there is no other Donbass in Ukraine.
      And in the winter? there is no gas anymore and there may not be any coal either!
      I have doubts about the fact that everything is so simple, to annoy Russia
  4. Arh
    +5
    20 August 2014 15: 03
    fascists they specifically shoot the infrastructure of the city and civilians, and to fight with the wars they have a thin gut !!!
  5. +7
    20 August 2014 15: 03
    Yes, the mines are still half the trouble, here Koksokhim got up this pipe is full, now it’s cheaper to just take it apart, and without it the metallurgical plants
    1. +3
      20 August 2014 15: 22
      Quote: saag
      Yes, the mines are still half the trouble, here Koksokhim got up this pipe is full, now it’s cheaper to just take it apart, and without it the metallurgical plants

      metallurgists have such a concept - to gouge the furnace. after that it’s actually cheaper to disassemble the oven ...
    2. +1
      20 August 2014 20: 12
      How far are you from metallurgy? Looks very far away. At least a marshal. Koksokhim stopped not accidentally. There are no fools, they stopped by the mind, on a quiet move.
  6. +5
    20 August 2014 15: 04
    Quote: In the current conditions it is impossible to work.

    Pisi: I have no words ... The explanation just killed ... Miners from the moon or what?
    1. +6
      20 August 2014 15: 26
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      Miners from the moon or what?

      there was nothing to be mine they would immediately give a shortcut to kiev, now they would work quietly, and until the last they expected that uncle would come and intercede for them
      1. +1
        20 August 2014 17: 03
        So after all, many are still waiting ... Already they do not pay the loot (and excuses such as feeding the children as it is necessary) and it is "impossible" to work, but they are waiting.
  7. +8
    20 August 2014 15: 04
    Almost all of the mines belong to Akhmetov. But where this hmyr is now unknown! He sees what they are doing with the country but chose to hide ... But with his means and capabilities he could raise the WHOLE East against the junta! And the question of financing and food would be dropped. But ... he had better sponsor his favorite toy .. FC Shakhtar ...
    1. DMB-88
      +4
      20 August 2014 15: 20
      Quote: Magic Archer
      But ... he better sponsor his favorite toy .. Fc Shakhtar ...


      all oligarchs have toys .., but their main toy is the People, they play democracy with them, play fair elections, play decent salaries, but now everything is in Novorossia - game over! And rightly so, Pavel Gubarev said no nationalization - only confiscation of oligarchic assets !!! So gentlemen oligarchs "The ice has broken," as the classics said.
      1. +5
        20 August 2014 15: 47
        The oligarchs that surfaced in the nineties, what do you want from shit? Honor, conscience, etc. it's not about them.
    2. +3
      20 August 2014 15: 24
      Akhmetov in June this year re-registered his company DTEK Krymenergo in Crimea. Perhaps he abandoned the mines as unprofitable and decided to keep what gives good money.
  8. +13
    20 August 2014 15: 06
    Oh, would you come out of the ground right after the referendum, maybe Slavyansk was now with the militias. And civilian casualties would be less.
    1. +1
      20 August 2014 17: 08
      Quote: B.T.W.
      And civilian casualties would be less.

      How is it? As civilians from all trunks were hollowed on and on, the miners could not have prevented anything, because they did not have an adequate answer
  9. +2
    20 August 2014 15: 07
    And with us, both quilted jackets with felt boots were produced and are being released!
  10. +3
    20 August 2014 15: 07
    The Donbass Fuel-Energy Company reported that in the mining district of the Donetsk region, due to hostilities, coal mining has not been conducted since August 1.

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/862/upyw786.jpg
    1. +3
      20 August 2014 15: 14
      They’ll drown shit, this goodness is enough in them laughing
      1. +1
        20 August 2014 15: 20
        With packaging
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    2. +3
      20 August 2014 15: 32
      Siberian gas goes to Europe, and Siberians heat coal with stoves, not wood.
  11. +7
    20 August 2014 15: 08
    your family cannot isolate yourself from the war and you cannot hide from hunger in the face .. it was too long "myakhataskraiu" .. the war itself came to the house .. still you want to chop a coal to Akhmetov? .. if not for the militia ..- the miners would have driven you to the Nazis to the mines -and PPC ..- work for a piece of bread ..
    1. +3
      20 August 2014 15: 18
      Quote: el.krokodil
      .-the Nazis would have driven you to the miners in the mines -and PPC ..- work for a piece of bread ..

      And the miners were the slaves of the southeast!
  12. +4
    20 August 2014 15: 08
    We were left without gas, and now there will be no coal either. Paragraph!!! Klitschko did not make a reservation when he offered to "prepare for the ground."
  13. +4
    20 August 2014 15: 08
    The mongrels (in Kiev) simply carry out the team from behind a large puddle. They are completely in x ... everything that will be because they don’t see themselves at the helm in the long run ... They think that they will be able to survive in the USA the rest of their vile life.
    1. DPZ
      +1
      20 August 2014 15: 15
      exactly! therefore, they go to the bank crash and not sparing anyone and nothing. if they hoped for victory in this war they would think that they would have to restore everything, they would hell the city with water and destroy the infrastructure !!!
  14. GCD
    GCD
    +3
    20 August 2014 15: 08
    I was very disappointed in Akhmetov very much (I still said softly)! So many miners were left without work, and how many families were without breadwinners! I can’t even find the right words to speak about dill everything I think !!!
  15. +8
    20 August 2014 15: 10
    The mines should have been beaten from the day of the defense of Donbass, and the peasant miners should free their land ...
    1. +1
      20 August 2014 15: 21
      Quote: mig31
      free your land ...

      And now the miners will free up space from the wreckage of their houses to install toilets!
    2. silver-7410
      +7
      20 August 2014 15: 41
      The mine cannot be closed, it’s not a car service, drainage and ventilation (degassing) should work all the time, if it gets up, put out the lights ... And as for the miners, you’re right that you don’t hear about the fierce mining confrontation of the Kiev junta.
      1. AVIATOR36662
        0
        20 August 2014 23: 39
        Honestly, the miners simply betrayed and sold their compatriots to Donbass. But before all the miners had arrived from overseas leave and attacked you! And now the miners are near the destroyed mines, their houses are destroyed and there are victims and their families. for loyalty to Kiev fascists. Someone begins to receive enlightenment.
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  17. GCD
    GCD
    +7
    20 August 2014 15: 12
    Traitor Ahmetka!
  18. +6
    20 August 2014 15: 12
    Quote: DMB-88
    it’s not clear how during the hostilities the miners still manage to work

    It is unclear for whom during the hostilities the MINERS (who spoke a lot) consider it normal to work ... recourse
  19. +4
    20 August 2014 15: 12
    The humanitarian disaster in / in Ukraine happened earlier. When miners and businessmen were silent. The second escaped, and the first hid in the mines, they say, this does not concern us. It doesn’t happen, IT TIES TO EVERYONE! Flying mines and shells do not make out who you are, a worker or a nouveau riche! And the trouble is common to all. As in my youth, my foreman told me: "Joy and piz ---- th, but EVERYBODY'S equal!" And it's time to weigh these lyuli!
  20. DPZ
    +2
    20 August 2014 15: 14
    did they still work? mines and miners? on whom? Who paid the salary? or for free? then why?
  21. GCD
    GCD
    +2
    20 August 2014 15: 14
    Well, not what, but in kuev, they already started advertising how to save non-stop energy)
    Without gas, now even without coal I will ride until spring if they jump before what I doubt)))
    PS Winter promises to be a fierce))))
  22. +2
    20 August 2014 15: 15
    In Donetsk, all the mines are. But in other cities I can’t even say for sure: we have a very bad connection now, often there is no connection with neighboring cities.


    Perhaps soon we will see the long-promised "miners' division".
  23. +1
    20 August 2014 15: 15
    It is a pity that only through such incredible hardship comes enlightenment!
    1. +3
      20 August 2014 15: 53
      Read, you will not regret ... http://politikus.ru/articles/26805-100-metrov.html
      1. +1
        20 August 2014 16: 19
        Quote: Genur
        Read, you will not regret ... http://politikus.ru/articles/26805-100-metrov.html

        I read it. Thank.
  24. +2
    20 August 2014 15: 17
    In pursuit of independence, the urks have already "shot both legs"! fool
  25. +1
    20 August 2014 15: 18
    Most importantly, and everything will be fine ...
    1. +5
      20 August 2014 15: 22
      Yes Yes! we don’t use taperich.
  26. Vitalka
    +5
    20 August 2014 15: 23
    My children, for example, who also lost their jobs, now live on my retirement. Or humanitarian aid comes with free meals.

    Well, business ... Hataskraischiki ... Cowards ... God bless the President VVP! That's right, "Vladimir-Tricky" did not bring in Russian troops to protect this dirt under the boots of the Banderaites.
  27. GCD
    GCD
    +4
    20 August 2014 15: 28
    The Slavs ask you to support the video so that they would not remove it from YouTube! (The reporter said that he was from Donetsk, he was the same Donetsk guy as the footballer with Volochkova) !!!
  28. +3
    20 August 2014 15: 30
    The miners are purely humanly sorry. But they can’t stay away. Now their intervention on the side of New Russia will be a turning point in the war! God send them courage and a Leader, whom they will follow and overthrow the Kiev junta ....
  29. +1
    20 August 2014 15: 50
    mines after cleaning will give foreigners-privatization in Ukrainian!
    1. +1
      20 August 2014 17: 06
      Quote: Delorian
      mines after cleaning will give foreigners-privatization in Ukrainian!

      They have already been sold together with the people!
  30. -2
    20 August 2014 15: 58
    And in Donetsk, a real famine is already beginning. Well, where is Putin’s cunning plan ..? 280 KAMAZ - STANDING ...! What are we waiting for...? Permissions from Poroshenko ..? ..! am
    If any fucking guy says I'm the fifth column, read my comments. This is you - the fifth column. negative
    1. 0
      21 August 2014 12: 25
      Well, if you watch the video above, then it’s still far from hunger, even trams go and the TV works. By the way, they go to work for some residents, instead of sitting in the basements and there is no one to create problems for the military. cars drive around the city, and obviously not for military purposes. so something is wrong here !!! about kamaz. so they are officially from the red cross to them and questions. right now Putin and where ??? attract attention??? and by the way, permission to ask for Poroshenko also have to wait, or robots will go to KAMAZ and these people if they kill you do not mind ????
  31. +6
    20 August 2014 16: 03
    Do you remember? "Right now, how the miners will rise! .... How the whole Donbass will rise! .... Scraps of the junta will fly through the back streets!" And where?
    1. +2
      20 August 2014 16: 43
      Quote: Ymato88
      Do you remember? "Right now, how the miners will rise! .... How the whole Donbass will rise! .... Scraps of the junta will fly through the back streets!" And where?

      If they don’t need it, if they can sit out, if their heart is so thin, then why should Russia take the money for them ?! After all, they are smart people (they definitely think so), so why are they waiting, what are they waiting for? Fear dominates!
  32. +1
    20 August 2014 16: 09
    UKROARMY PREPARES SOIL AND PREPARATIONS FOR TRIBUNAL CASE
    "In an interview with the Ukrainian newspaper Ukrainskaya Pravda, Colonel-General of the Ukrainian Army Reserve Volodymyr Ruban made a sensational statement: not two, but three sides are fighting in Donbass. The so-called third party is saboteurs who conduct clandestine operations against the Ukrainian army and militias.
    Retired Colonel-General declares that it is the saboteurs who scatter shells in the housing estates, substituting each side. Ruban claims that both Kiev and Donetsk are looking for provocateurs.

    He also made a statement that foreign mercenaries were taking part in the war. It should be noted that today the Deputy Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Anton Gerashchenko announced that an American mercenary nicknamed Franco was killed in the ranks of the Donbass battalion.
    Dmitry Ruban is the organizer of the Center for Communication of Captured Relatives. He is also in talks to free the hostages. In the three months of his work, he managed to free more than 300 people from captivity.
    Let us remind you that the military operation in Donbass began on April 7, when Alexander Turchinov signed a decree on conducting an anti-terrorist operation in the east of the country. "

    yeah, like, then they will declare that the shells hit the houses "on handles" and the holes in the reinforced concrete were made by the militias yeah ...
    1. +1
      20 August 2014 17: 10
      Quote: Gomel
      and "Colonel-General of the Reserve Army of Ukraine Volodymyr Ruban

      A prostitute who realized that she would not be paid, and covering her bare ass, is trying to escape from retribution!
    2. +1
      20 August 2014 17: 31
      I hope that they will not be as sincerely trusted as Serdyukov, that they did not see anything, and did not delve into the papers and orders that this same third party slipped to them ...
  33. vit
    +2
    20 August 2014 16: 11
    [quote = Koloradovatnik] Then a legitimate question arises. What does the same Parashenko think of heating his residence in winter?
    oh, I also found a problem, to drown in the winter ...
    1st option, by order of Parashkin, just cancel the winter!
    2nd winter, like all the muck comes to Krajina from Russia, that’s what wouldn’t come, and the winter ditches dig along the border!
    3rd to build crematoria, and "firewood" to collect on the maydaun (or send summons to the crematorium).
    problems?
  34. +2
    20 August 2014 16: 21
    It is unclear for whom during the hostilities the MINERS (who spoke a lot) consider it normal to work ... recourse[/ Quote]

    The logic is the same as that of an Uzbek woman with a rag, who carefully rubs the floor in a crowded supermarket, always touching with a tear. laughing
  35. special
    +1
    20 August 2014 16: 27
    Quote: Mama_Cholli
    He will not have any residence by winter ...

    Will be! Very comfortable residence at 2 meters under the earth and a cozy wooden mac! am
  36. +1
    20 August 2014 16: 27
    And my opinion is the essence of the Ukrainian proverb "we will not take so bite" judging because they make one conclusion destroying everything. They realized that now this is not their territory and soon they will probably be thrown out of there, so they destroy everything to the maximum out of spite! this is the only way to understand their actions!
    1. 11111mail.ru
      +2
      20 August 2014 17: 19
      Quote: Mig 31
      "I will not take a bite"

      Why distort the glorious kaklyatsky slogan: "If I don't, I'll bite it!"
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  38. +2
    20 August 2014 17: 07
    Yes, the kopek mines. I saw such mines in the town of Uzlovaya in the Tula region and nearby. After a few years, they collapse. Everything, and there is a ravine on the street, and in the depths of the well .. In short, you guys need to retrain into house management, as our Ostap Bender said.
    1. Rusty shark
      0
      20 August 2014 20: 17
      since the year 91, not a single mine has been opened in Ukraine. as the director of one of the mines said that building a trunk is very expensive. And it was only possible with the union.
  39. +4
    20 August 2014 17: 33
    Will the miners wait for the militia to disperse the junta? Perform together, so long ago they would have thrown out the National Guards beyond the borders of the DPR and would have established both rhythmic work and rhythmic pay, and there would have been much less deaths among children and the elderly. After all, the miners are far from timid guys. What keeps them near the skirt?
  40. Everest2014
    +3
    20 August 2014 18: 22
    Picking up a coal is kind of safer and maybe even giving money for it if it is where to bring it, and not to the ruins of the house after hitting the point y.
    1. melnik
      +1
      20 August 2014 18: 36
      In fact, this is from the category "Russians are coming!" Mass psychosis
      1. Starmos
        +2
        20 August 2014 19: 09
        Actually, modern psychiatry gives a clear definition of this "phenomenon" - manic schizophrenia, accompanied by paranoid delusions. As a rule, the acute phase ends with an unresponsive depression, followed by suicide.
  41. +1
    20 August 2014 18: 49
    Quote: DMB-88
    it is not clear how during the hostilities the miners still manage to work! and whose mines are they working on?

    I say right away that I didn’t read either the article or the comments, but here’s what I dug in the internet yesterday: For a better understanding of the events (and there are not only military clashes, which are mostly monitored in the blogosphere), we turn to an interview with Metinvest Holding CEO Y. Ryzhenkova from 10 of August and comment on it in parts:
    [...] Metinvest did not revise annual plans for production and export of products, since today it does not see significant deviations from the initial indicators. Although, it must be admitted that the last week or two, the metallurgical division has been operating at 60-70% of its capacity. This is due to both the current situation in the ATO zone and the change in supply chains.
    In principle, all our enterprises are operating today. Even the Yenakiyevo Iron and Steel Works and the Khartsyzsk Pipe Plant, which are located in the territory controlled by the so-called DPR. Stable situation at iron ore plants in Krivoy Rog and at the plant in Zaporozhye. The situation in Mariupol can also be called a working one, where two of our largest steel mills (Ilyich Iron and Steel Works and Azovstal) reduced production a week ago due to interruptions in the supply of raw materials. But today the situation there is stabilized, and just the other day we are launching the third blast furnace at Azovstal. As logistics flows recover, we will return to normal production levels. [...] Avdeevka Coke and Chemical Plant remains a hot spot on the map of Donetsk region. Now it is located only at one of the four electricity inputs, we are balancing on the brink. In the history of Ukrainian metallurgy, this was the first case of a hot stop of a large coke-chemical enterprise and its start again after applying voltage more than a day later. Today, all the workshops of the Avdeevsky Coke Chemistry are working, although at reduced parameters, about a third. But the plant was saved.
    In addition, we have coke contracts with Donetskstal. Today, they have almost completely deployed the Yasinovsky Coke Plant in our direction, supplying us with almost their entire production volume. We are looking at who else we can negotiate with, including in Russia. And also look at the possibility of importing coke from Colombia and China. [...] Unfortunately, the most difficult situation is in Krasnodonugl, which is located on the territory of the so-called LPR. A few days ago, a man died there as a result of a shell not far from the mine control. In addition, the Lugansk part of the railroads practically does not work, there is a problem with energy supply, therefore there is no transport connection with this association. Shipment of products from Krasnodonugol is not conducted, the company operates in a warehouse. But local experts are restoring a route that has not been used for more than 10 years, and we expect to start exporting products from Krasnodonugol in the coming week.
    That is, the company still works, no matter what. Stocks are accumulating, and in parallel with the war, ways to export products are being restored.
  42. 0
    20 August 2014 18: 50
    And here is the most interesting: how logistics works and what about export. Was it covered due to war or not? Does New Ukraine Make Money?
    [...] We faced very serious problems in logistics, in particular, on the railway. The railway operates somewhere at 40-50% of normal operation. The work of the Debaltseve railway station has not been restored, and the Yasinovataya station is operating in very difficult conditions. But it is one of the key stations of the Donetsk railway and Ukraine as a whole. We have to change the balance of supplies of raw materials, export of finished products, and in some cases reduce the turnover of our enterprises.
    Today we are considering options for marine logistics. Several ships with coke have already entered the port of Mariupol to ensure the operation of our plants in Mariupol. Also, by sea, we see the possibility of ensuring the supply of sinter ore and iron ore concentrate. For example, iron ore concentrate is sent from Krivoy Rog to the Yuzhny port in Illichivsk, and there it is loaded onto ships and transported to Mariupol.
    Sinter ore from the Kryvyi Rih iron ore plant and Yakovlevsky GOK is delivered to Berdyansk, where it is loaded onto small-tonnage ships and also delivered to Mariupol, because the railway line between Berdyansk and Mariupol can not withstand the necessary loads. There are long-distance deliveries, for example, coking coal, which we transport from the USA to the Yuzhny port, where we reload onto smaller vessels capable of entering the Mariupol port.
    Thus, since the Sea of ​​Azov is not closed to shipping, to ensure the operation of enterprises, Ukrainian vessels massively go back and forth through the Kerch Strait, now fully controlled by Russia.
    Oh yes - and about export:
    [...] Export deliveries are proceeding as usual. The lion's share of iron ore raw materials (iron ore) to Europe goes through the port of Yuzhny, a little less - by rail. Metal products are shipped from Mariupol Sea Port. Zaporizhstal ships at its place through the Zaporizhzhya river port, and further through the Black Sea to Europe. Another part of the production goes through Odessa, Nikolaev ports, but there is not much.
    We have decided so far not to consider losses. Our task is to preserve production and enterprises. We see that it is possible. When we summarize the month, quarterly, then we will see what is happening there.
    So the foreign exchange earnings are going as they were. It is clear in what bins. Only smaller than before - because of the war you have to dodge logistics.
  43. +1
    20 August 2014 18: 54
    [...] Military operations in eastern Ukraine have been going on since the end of April, but until mid-July Akhmetov’s companies did not report a forced stoppage of production or significant damage to equipment. Steel production at Metinvest's plants decreased by 8% to 5,8 million tons over half a year, iron ore concentrate production by 3%, and coking concentrate by 21%, the company said. At the same time, in general, Ukrainian enterprises reduced steel production over 6 months by 6% to 15,5 million tons (Dnepropetrovsk), the output of total rolled products decreased by 7% in six months - to 13,590 million tons, pig iron - by 1%, to 14,364 million tons (link)
    And a little about the enterprises of the Akhmetov group - those that are located on the territory of the DPR / LPR are highlighted, and those that were in this territory, but lost during the retreats and are now again controlled by "Ukraine", are marked out:

    PJSC "MK" Azovstal "
    MMK them. Ilyich
    Enakievo Ministry of Health
    Khartsyzsk Pipe Plant

    Promet Steel (Bulgaria)
    Ferriera Valsider SpA (Italy)
    Metinvest Trametal (Italy)
    Spartan UK (UK)
    LLC Metinvest-Shipping (until 25 July 2012 of the year - LLC Skif-Shipping)
    LLC Metinvest-Resource
    Metinvest International SA
    Metinvest-Ukraine
    Metinvest-SMC
    LLC Metinvest Eurasia
    Avdeevsky coke plant
    Krasnodonugol

    United Coal (UCC)
    NGO INCOR and Co.
    Ingulets GOK
    Northern GOK
    Central GOK
    Komsomolskoye Ore Mining
    Danube Shipping Stevedoring Company
    PJSC "Zaporizhogneupor"
    Zaporizhstal OJSC
  44. 0
    20 August 2014 20: 12
    Turn off earlier - turn on earlier. Finally. Would be early. How are the oligarchs now?
  45. +1
    20 August 2014 20: 14
    for all the eagles that yell if the miners stood up, etc. Lisichansk mine Melnikova 2000 of them 450 people (lists of the National Guard) in the militia were arrested right in some well-dressed. Subtracting women and retirees (and their dofig), it turns out about 45 percent. This is for those who screaming miners hammering coal and they do not care. Some shift plowed and went to the block post, and so every day.
  46. Everest2014
    0
    20 August 2014 20: 39
    Quote: Captain45
    For six months, Metinvest decreased by 8% to 5,8 million tons, the production of iron ore concentrate - by 3%, and coking concentrate - by 21%, the company said.

    When wishful thinking is given out, it means * oops. Managers are trying to dance a higher selling price for all this stuff in a bad game, with shitty cards.
    http://polemika.com.ua/article-151911.html
  47. 0
    20 August 2014 20: 44
    Quote: everest2014
    When wishful thinking is given out, it means * oops. Managers are trying to dance a higher selling price for all this stuff in a bad game, with shitty cards.

    So I warned that I dig it on the Internet. For what I bought, I sell it for that. But, as I see, the interview is not too different from reality. When sooooo big grandmas are at stake, maybe EVERYTHING!
  48. 0
    20 August 2014 21: 29
    Quote: B.T.W.
    Oh, would you come out of the ground right after the referendum, maybe Slavyansk was now with the militias. And civilian casualties would be less.


    Yeah, right! And then they said, I remember: if we go out of the ground, then they will go to the ground ...
  49. 0
    20 August 2014 21: 39
    But the miners are still underground, and when to battle?
  50. Alex Ivanov
    0
    20 August 2014 21: 47
    My opponent from Kryvyi Rih wrote to me that their power plants and nuclear power plants will pull out. To the question - and who will supply fuel for the nuclear power plant, the answer is the United States. When asked how hydroelectric power stations, which about 12-14% of the entire energy sector of Ukraine will pull the country, did not answer at all. These are zombies, gentlemen ...
    1. +1
      21 August 2014 02: 19
      Quote: AlexIvanov
      My opponent from Kryvyi Rih wrote to me that their power plants and nuclear power plants will pull out. To the question - and who will supply fuel for the nuclear power plant, the answer is the United States. When asked how hydroelectric power stations, which about 12-14% of the entire energy sector of Ukraine will pull the country, did not answer at all. These are zombies, gentlemen ...

      why almost immediately ZOMBIES ... despite the zombies, many do not give in and do not watch telly.
      What did he say that? All right. Hydroelectric power stations and nuclear power plants are pulling even metallurgy (convection ovens)
      TPP on gas / coal. Options are quite possible (RF / Poland)
      A fuel rod is not yet needed. And the TEVL company itself does not intend to leave the Ukrainian market (I recently gave an article about this) Westigauz can replace it, but TEVL has better conditions. Ukraine holds on to TEVL. Alternatives only to improve the terms of contracts with the Russians.
      What's your "they're all zombies"?
      He had not yet said that the main consumer of Russian gas was disconnected, and he was disconnected not only from Russian (chemistry / metallurgy partially in the east) but also from Ukrainian (heating infrastructure was damaged)
      In fact, if earlier the need was needed, 80% of the total number grew. of gas, now being 20-25% of Ukrainian gas is growing into 40% of the total ... But in general chemistry and metallurgy will be cut off so much at 60% or more ..
      In my opinion, you biasedly accused Kryvyi Rih of "zombie" and, incidentally, inspired lies about all Ukrainians!
  51. 0
    20 August 2014 22: 03
    Молодцы шахтёры. Семьи в домах ракетами гробят, соседи без еды и воды, а им хоть бы хны. Железная выдержка. Да здравствует подземный мир. Эта часть жителей называется "мояхатаскрайники" с идеологией "щоб в мэнэ усё було, а мене за то ничого не було".
    К сожалению такие составляют подавляющее большинство населения.
    Вопрос - а причём здесь Россия?
  52. +1
    20 August 2014 22: 30
    Сам шахтер-Что же вы делаете? ВАС-НЕ НАС-бьют-детей ваших а вы молчите? Шахты обесточили? А ты сволочь возьми меч-как Дерпа-шахтер-в 1 конной и иди кроши гадов-забыли историю и классиков-а они писали с конкретных лиц-а если не можешь-умри!
  53. smoker
    0
    21 August 2014 02: 15
    Мне вот непонятно следующее:
    У кого-то есть какие-то старые накопления, многие живут на пенсии.

    На какие пенсии? Их действительно сейчас выплачивают? Кто?
  54. 0
    21 August 2014 02: 30
    Насчет шахт...очень противоречивые экономические данные по рентабельности.
    По одним данным они все дотационные(причем схема обогащения Ахметова уж больно хороша)
    По другим какой то доход государству дают.
    Склонен думать что истинна где то посередине. И дотации и доход но вряд ли гос. Украина. Скорее всего за счет бюджета и льгот состояние делают.
    Заодно сырье для металлургии. Коей на Украине немало(тут неплохие железные руды и марганец с никелем)
    Многие на Украине обрадуются что в кои то веки позакрываются куча шахт. Ведь ранее социальный взрыв(бунты шахтеров а их много) не позволяли закрыть.
    Чтобы определить насколько выгодно/невыгодно закрытие шахт(прям Англия и Маргарет Течер) нужно знать всю подноготную-а вот с этим проблема. Тематика пестрит ложными сведениями.
    В общем не думаю что Ахметов именно с Коломойским борется. С КОломойским то если бы были проблемы-то решили бы(самый богатый человек на Украине это Ахметов)
    Но вот что делать с шахтерами...пресловутый социальный взрыв несмотря на позицию Киева не допускать(они тоже понимают что шахтеры могут пополнить ряды) его. Ведь существовал план поддержки.
    Кстати несмотря на борьбу с Киевом-все почему то говорят о пенсии...Неужели Киев не обрубил каналы пенсий/пособий и прочего? На территориях не подконтрольных Киеву вообще то мог бы.
    Впрочем несмотря на инфовойну Киева и ополченцев(обе стороны начали просто нагло лгать, что водилось только за Киевом но ополчение и тут стало таким же)--для Киева жизненно важно именно не разбомбить инфраструктуру а саму идею. Мог бы сочетать экономические+военные шаги. Впрочем я многого не знаю, а политика ВО не направлена на выяснения таких тем...сказано "все фашисты" и всех украинцев так и записали...
  55. 0
    21 August 2014 03: 21
    Честно говоря поднадоели эти статьи о том, как все плохо в руинии. То что солдат на инагурации упал обсасывали неделю. Спокойнее надо быть.
  56. 0
    21 August 2014 07: 00
    Добавлю еще. Не забывайте, что в руинии еще много чего продать, хотя бы в качестве сырья. Можно продать месторождения, можно продать с/х угодья. Это я к тому, что скорого и внезапного краха мы не увидим, если страну спецом не пресанут, как сейчас Россию. Так что сомневаюсь я, что война там к зиме закончится и закончится в принципе. Теперь это вечная горячая точка вроде Карабаха. И хотелось бы видеть от украинцев побольше статей обзорных о текущей жизни в незалежной. А то читать одну чернуху надоело уже. С мая месяца страна валится в пропасть и никак не свалится...

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