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Trap for an ally

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Even their satellites cease to trust the United States.

The conditions in which Russia has been set since the start of the new Cold War are significantly better than in the 50s. Another economic and technological level, a flexible and developed financial system, and a degree of integration into the outside world allow us to successfully resist external pressure, overcome and circumvent any sanctions. The only thing that can prevent is not the position of the leadership of the USA and the EU, but the mistakes that the national bureaucracy is capable of allowing. Moreover, the discussion here is not only about personnel and industrial policy or its absence, but also about things that are much less material.

The key issue of foreign relations is trust. And not only to informal promises, but also to written guarantees, which, as a rule, are inevitably violated. The question whether NATO’s non-proliferation to the east, the Treaty on the Strategic Missile Forces or an agreement on the transfer of power from the President of Ukraine to the opposition is at issue does not have a special role. The very possibility for Russia to view the countries of the Western bloc as partners, and not as competitors and potential military-political opponents after everything that has happened between them in the last quarter of a century, is highly questionable.

Obama's sorrows

References to the 21st century, at the beginning of which it is unacceptable to behave in the same way as in the 20th century, after President Crimean Obama accused President Putin after the Crimean referendum, they say nothing, except that the United States was extremely surprised when faced with that Russia behaved in critical circumstances with the same degree of readiness to defend its own national interests, like America, although much more professionally. Which led the White House to launch sanctions against the Kremlin, which contrasted so much with the previously announced “reset”.

In itself, the speed with which the United States began to impose sanctions against Russia, and the efforts that Washington made to join the maximum number of countries, regardless of their national interests, suggest that the Obama "reset" was nothing more than a diversion. Nothing stood behind him except an attempt to put Moscow to watchfulness and gain time. The preparation for complicating the relations of the Russian Federation with the world community and its immediate neighbors, in this case with Ukraine, demanded an imitation of a dialogue that did not imply a real partnership - like a dialogue on the problem of the Syrian chemical weapons.

Obama’s characteristic regret about his “successful cooperation” with former President Medvedev in contrast to the relations that have developed with the current Russian leadership. Recall that the “success” of this cooperation lay in the fact that Russia joined the anti-Libyan UN resolution advanced by the United States, which later, contrary to the spirit and letter of this resolution, legitimized NATO intervention in Libya. This resulted in the overthrow and death of Muammar Gaddafi, the actual disintegration of Libya as a state, the death of the American ambassador and the CIA residency in Benghazi and the leakage of modern weapons from Gaddafi’s warehouses that fell into the hands of Islamist radicals. There is nothing to say about the unprecedented exacerbation of the situation in the interior regions of the Sahara and the Sahel.

That is, “good Russia” is Russia, which at least does not prevent the United States and its allies from making mistakes of any scale, causing the security system to collapse in entire regions. Private and corporate interests, whether it is the personal interest of someone from Western politicians, departments or financial-industrial groups, are mixed with the interests of customers overthrowing a particular regime (in the case of Gaddafi - Saudi Arabia and Qatar), as well as ousting competitors (from Libya - first of all, Russia and China).

In Syria, the regrettable Libyan experience was taken into account by the Russian leadership. At the same time, the massive information war against Moscow could not change its position, and the course of the Syrian civil war provoked by Doha and Riyadh with the support of Ankara was influenced by the support of Iran and Shiite militias from Lebanon and Iraq. A firm stance in the UN Russia and China has complicated the possibility of intervention. As for the Syrian "insurgents", the leading role among them of radical Islamists has put the United States, France and Great Britain in an extremely difficult position, actually making them al-Qaeda allies, to which include the pro-Saudi "Jabhat al-Nusra" and the pro-Islamic Islamic the state of Iraq and the Levant. "

Supported by the Turkish secret service MIT, the Syrian Free Army collapsed and its most combat-ready units joined the ranks of the Islamists. The planned attack on Damascus from Jordan, in which the Americans prepared the shock corps, was, if not disrupted, then postponed for a long time after an unprecedented breakthrough of ISIL fighters in Iraq, where they, together with part of the local Sunni sheikhs and neo-Asaists, formed the Islamic Caliphate. The genocide of Christians and Kurdish Yazidis, the formation of a military alliance of the Baghdad government and Iran in Iraq put the US administration in a difficult position - first of all before voters and Congress, because they were a direct consequence of the withdrawal of the American occupation corps from there by Barack Obama.

Point bombing of Islamist American positions aviationas well as attempts to deliver humanitarian aid to refugees by air, underscore the Barack Obama administration's inability to support Iraq, which is an ally of the United States. This again contrasts sharply with the position of Russia, which supplied Baghdad with modern weapons systems in conditions when the Iraqi government needed this kind of support. The same can be said of Russian humanitarian support for the population of southeastern Ukraine, despite US statements that Russian humanitarian convoys will be considered by them as an invasion that go beyond any framework.

It seems that it was the US failures in the Middle East and Ukraine, where the confrontation of oligarchs turned into a civil war, provoked an aggravation of relations with Russia, which refused to play according to the rules proposed to it. Especially since these rules have long outlived themselves, from the point of view of many countries that are partners of America, including Israel and Turkey. The latter, despite the diametrically opposite position on Syria and the possibility of complicating Russia's position in the Black Sea region, maintains smooth and strong relations with Moscow. What is an alarming signal for the States, the consistency of which, and the readiness to follow in its fairway, are exposed to increasingly open doubts.

Sworn friend of israel

A special theme is the relationship of the American state with the Jewish one. The two-volume book of Professor Alec D. Epstein is devoted to this topic: “Nearest allies? Genuine история American-Israeli Relations ”, which will be published in the fall of this year. However, even up to the moment this fundamental work is published, the Russian-speaking reader, using the example of the history of these relations, can assess how much it makes sense to rely on such a partner as the United States.

Trap for an allyOne of the most striking works of this kind refers to the 1993 year. She came out on the eve of the signing of the “Agreement on Principles” between PLO leader Yasser Arafat and Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin with the participation of US President Clinton. Well-known public figure Irvin Moskovich, along with Helen Friedman, executive director of the Americans for Safe Israel organization, prepared a material that was published under the heading "Should America guarantee Israel’s security?" Below are quotes from this demonstration work.

Moskovich and Friedman recall how in December 1957 under President Eisenhower, Israeli Ambassador Aba Eban received from the hands of Secretary of State John Foster Dulles a memorandum of assistance, which said: “America will make every effort to prevent UN armed forces in Gaza from continuing armed infiltration into Israel ". In addition, the United States guaranteed Israel the right of free passage through the Strait of Tiran.

In 1963, US President JF Kennedy reaffirmed this promise. However, when 17 May 1967, Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser ordered the UN emergency forces to leave Gaza and Sinai, they left without the slightest resistance, and the United States didn’t do anything. Egyptian troops without interference occupied the Sinai Peninsula. The outcome was the Six Day War.

7 August 1970 as a result of the diplomatic efforts of the Nixon administration, a cease-fire in the War of Exhaustion, which Egypt led against Israel, was signed. This agreement included a promise to the United States to support the cease-fire. However, when Egypt broke the agreement, the United States did not intervene. Israel was forced to participate in another round of negotiations. Egypt, meanwhile, moved its missiles to the Suez Canal and in 1973 used them against Israel in the Doomsday War.

In 1975, the US signed a Joint Memorandum of Agreement, ensuring that America "does not recognize the PLO until the PLO recognizes Israel’s right to exist and does not adopt UN Security Council resolutions 242 and 338". Immediately thereafter, the US leadership began to “look for approaches” to the Palestine Liberation Organization.

In March, 1988, Secretary of State George Schultz, in violation of US law, met with Edward Said and Ibrahim Abu-Lugard, PNS and PLO members. 14 December 1988-st Arafat announced his consent to the recognition of Israel, after which President Ronald Reagan canceled the promise of 1975 of the year, declaring it invalid.

For decades, the US State Department has ignored, defended and overlooked the PLO terror against Israel. So, when the 6 July 1989, as a result of the terrorist attack, was thrown into the gorge by an Israeli bus, the administration of President George W. Bush "did not notice." The silence of the PLO terror continued under the Clinton administration.

When Israel launched a raid on terrorists in southern Lebanon in March 1978 and occupied border territory, US President J. Carter forced Israeli forces to leave and replaced them with United Nations forces in Lebanon - UNIFIL. Their task in theory was to protect Israel from terrorists. However, in June, the 1978 of three hundred PLO terrorists again occupied the south of Lebanon. UNIFIL helped them with intelligence information and demonstrated open collaboration with the PLO. Israel could not respond for fear of putting the UN troops under attack. Although the Dutch, Irish, Norwegian, French, Swedish and Nepalese troops that were part of them, collaborated with the PLO.

The situation seemed to change under President Reagan, more friendly to Israel than Carter. Especially since the inaction and direct indulgence of the PLO by the UN forces led to the war in Lebanon, as a result of which Yasser Arafat and the main forces of the PLO were forced to evacuate to Tunisia. However, after two hundred and forty-two US marines were killed in the barracks as a result of a suicide bombing in October 1983, the US army left Lebanon. The country was left to its own devices - as is Iraq today.

13 September 1993, Israel, under US patronage, signed the Oslo Agreement. September 24 1995 is the Oslo 2 Agreement. In January, 1997, the Hebron agreement with the guarantees of Secretary of State Warren Christopher. In 1998, the Y memorandum (in the Russian-language press, the Wy Plantation Agreement). In 1999, an agreement in Sharm-a-Sheikh. All were broken.

The United States supported the creation of a Palestinian state. The division of Jerusalem is “the eternal and undivided capital of Israel” and the refusal of the Jewish state from its eastern part. Surrender of the Golan Heights to Syria (which was at the time of the negotiations on the list of countries sponsored by the State Department). Israel’s withdrawal from Judea and Samaria, with the eviction of two hundred thousand Jews (by October 2012, their number was more than seven hundred thousand, taking into account the East-disputed areas of East Jerusalem).

It was clear that the fact that these people, whose relocation does not solve the Palestinian problems, will turn into new displaced persons, of which there are more than enough in the Middle East, is not an American concern. Like the fact that it endangers the existence of Israel. However, the fate of eight and a half thousand residents of Jewish settlements, forcibly expelled by the Israeli Defense Forces from the Gaza Strip, did not become such a problem.

At the same time, the withdrawal from Gaza did not complete the Israeli conflict with the Palestinians, as explained by the Israeli left-wing initiators of this resettlement, led by Shimon Peres, and gave a chance to seize power to Hamas there. This organization took advantage of the chance provided by the Israelis, turning Gaza into a staging base for continuous attacks on Israel, and the civilian population of this territory hostage to such a policy provoking one Israeli military operation after another.

The reluctance of the Israeli leadership to return to Gaza and take control of its territory is once again clear. None of the statesmen likes to admit mistakes. Politicians like to fix them even less. Where does the idea of ​​the demilitarization of Gaza come from under the control and guarantees of either the “world community” or the UN? The authors of it, however, did not give a single example when such a kind of demilitarization would be successfully implemented and such guarantees were implemented.

We cite in this connection three people whose words accurately describe what all these guarantees, including the American ones, stand for. Aba Eban, Israeli Foreign Minister, in 1956: "Security guarantees are not suitable as a substitute for defense power." US Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara in 1967: “Israel must retain the commanding heights east of the 1967 border. In order to provide a defensive depth, Israel needs a band about fifteen miles wide on the Golan ”(which exceeds the territory Israel has now conquered from Syria). Senator Henry Jackson in 1973: "A significant part of the history of international guarantees is the history of countries that have lost their territory, their freedom, and even their sons and daughters."

The leadership of the United States is fighting for peace in the Middle East (mostly for someone else’s, including the Israeli bill) with the same intensity and the same destructive consequences as during the times of the superpower confrontation. What, from the point of view of local players, whom America has repeatedly substituted, is contrary to world practice, which the Roman “If you want peace - prepare for war” embodies. Although from the point of view of political timeservers like President Obama, they, demanding that their theories be implemented here and now, bear no guilt for the consequences of their actions.

Guarantor of tension

Interestingly, what would have happened to Europe if the Allies had fought Hitler during World War II according to the rules that the United States and the next “world community” in their wake prescribe to Israel, and also try to implement in Ukraine? In the latter case - with the danger of unleashing a new European war, in scale comparable to the Yugoslav beginning of the 90-s. Perhaps the Third Reich and in the XXI century would remain a European reality ... However, it is absolutely useless to ask the relevant American diplomats and politicians of the "new school".

Well-known political scientist Paul Eidelberg calculated that over the past two thousand five hundred years, Western Europe (including ancient Greece and the Roman Empire, whose territory was not limited to Europe) has gone through about a thousand wars. That is, in the cradle of European and Western civilization in general, the war went on every two and a half years. From where it is easy to understand that war is the norm of international relations, and peace is nothing more than preparation for war. So peace treaties may well be useless. And may be harmful. It depends on the content of the contracts and the conditions for their fulfillment or non-fulfillment.

In 1969, Lawrence Beylenson wrote “The Treaty Trap,” in which he analyzed peace treaties right up to Roman times. The conclusion is disappointing: contracts are concluded only in order to violate them. Moreover, treaties guaranteeing territorial integrity of a country are useless for a country that has received such guarantees. More precisely, worse than useless, as they create a false sense of security. However, these treaties are useful for countries or, in the Palestinian case, organizations whose leaders intend to break them at a convenient time.

All of the above is true not only for Israel. American politics was, is and will be what it is, not specifically in the Israeli case. There are more than enough examples. And the most revealing - from the history of Southeast Asia. Who remembers, back in 1954, at the initiative of the United States, the Collective Defense Treaty of Southeast Asia, SEATO, was created. This region has been declared an exemplary “containment of communism” zone. The results are impressive ...

Thus, at the height of the final phase of the Vietnam War 14 in November 1972, President Richard Nixon signed an agreement to protect South Vietnam from the North, which guaranteed American punitive actions if necessary, if the agreement was broken by Hanoi. These guarantees failed miserably, and in 1973, American troops were completely withdrawn from Vietnam. Who won the war, you can not ask.

In 1954, President Dwight Eisenhower signed the Treaty of Mutual Defense between the United States and the Republic of China (in Taiwan). In 1976, President Jimmy Carter stated: "We are obliged by contract to guarantee the freedom of Formosa, Taiwan, the Republic of China." However, 15 December 1978, the contract was canceled by the same Carter, who announced the cessation of the supply of arms to Taiwan and the full recognition of the People's Republic of China.

What is called business. Nothing personal. Realistic politics of real politicians. As it has always been accepted in the USA. 9
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  1. Dmitry Abramov
    Dmitry Abramov 20 August 2014 14: 33
    +9
    That's right ... It's scary for our children, they take over the baton ...
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      1. Момент
        Момент 20 August 2014 14: 52
        +16
        Russia should not lose. Or then the whole world will plunge into a single chaos.
        BRICS is now the whole trouble for America and Europe.
        1. insafufa
          insafufa 20 August 2014 15: 31
          +2
          In my opinion, and Israel, the problems are not due to Hamas, their politicians and orthodox brains need to be adjusted, how much can they fight with their birth rate dynamics 1,3 they have 25-30 years left and then the Arabs collapse is born more than they manage to kill
          1. andj61
            andj61 20 August 2014 17: 32
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            Quote: insafufa
            In my opinion, and Israel, the problems are not due to Hamas, their politicians and orthodox brains need to be adjusted, how much can they fight with their birth rate dynamics 1,3 they have 25-30 years left and then the Arabs collapse is born more than they manage to kill

            Satanovsky correctly noted that Israel’s withdrawal from Gaza, at least its military strength, was a mistake. But I don’t agree about the demographic situation: there are not so few Jews arriving in Israel, and the majority of Arabs - Israeli citizens - are Christians and Druze who will fight for it no less fiercely than the Jews - this is their native land, in Russia, unlike Russian-speaking Jews, they have nothing to do.
            Regarding the position of the United States and Western Europe towards Israel, similar views have already been expressed by Israeli regulars.
            It would be interesting to see their comments now.
      2. nvv
        nvv 20 August 2014 15: 05
        +4
        A lot has been written about Israel in the article, but not even a close understanding of the problem. Stalin at one time realized that in order to destroy the biblical project, the state of Israel must be created, which he contributed to, but the rulers of the biblical project did not need Jews in this form. Not for that, Moses drove them 40 years through the desert. He is preparing another Holocaust.
        1. Mama_Cholli
          Mama_Cholli 20 August 2014 17: 25
          +1
          Quote: nvv
          A lot has been written about Israel in the article, but not even a close understanding of the problem. Stalin at one time realized that in order to destroy the biblical project, the state of Israel must be created, which he contributed to, but the rulers of the biblical project did not need Jews in this form. Not for that, Moses drove them 40 years through the desert. He is preparing another Holocaust.

          Stalin actually first suggested that the Jews establish their promised land in Russia.
          But they chose the historically "hot" land.
          1. nvv
            nvv 21 August 2014 03: 32
            0
            [quote = Mama_Cholli] [quote = nvv]
            Stalin actually first suggested that the Jews establish their promised land in Russia.
            But they chose the historically "hot" land. [/ Quote]
            Stalin did not offer, he stopped.
            1. Mama_Cholli
              Mama_Cholli 21 August 2014 05: 58
              +1
              In any case, from the history of the EAO:
              ... The fact that the Crimean Jewish autonomy was never created is explained, first of all, by the fact that back in the spring of 1927, the resettlement of Jews to the Far East was chosen as an alternative. This option of solving the Jewish question in the USSR was then presented. Stalinist leadership optimal, especially in terms of advocacy
          2. sgazeev
            sgazeev 21 August 2014 08: 18
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            Quote: Mama_Cholli
            Quote: nvv
            A lot has been written about Israel in the article, but not even a close understanding of the problem. Stalin at one time realized that in order to destroy the biblical project, the state of Israel must be created, which he contributed to, but the rulers of the biblical project did not need Jews in this form. Not for that, Moses drove them 40 years through the desert. He is preparing another Holocaust.

            Stalin actually first suggested that the Jews establish their promised land in Russia.
            But they chose the historically "hot" land.

            The Stalinist "joke", if it came true, would burn our ass to this day. Let them live on the "promised land", especially since they are Semitic peoples. stop
    2. baltika-18
      baltika-18 20 August 2014 14: 48
      -6
      Quote: Dmitry Abramov
      It’s scary for our children,
      Do not worry about children, they will live in a fair country and in a completely different world.
      And according to the article. "Even satellites are no longer trusting the Americans." But the paradox continues to strongly trust the dollar. And even Russia, despite the sanctions, continues to invest money in American debt securities. And the BRICS partner Brazil has staked on in the supply of meat to the country took and increased selling prices for meat (it was $ 5.4 per kilo, it became $ 7.3). How do gentlemen-comrades "patriots" such a turn?
      1. Svetlana
        Svetlana 20 August 2014 15: 02
        +10
        This was to be expected. The spoon is way to dinner. Until we start feeding ourselves, we will be dependent on any factors and vulnerable to any dirty tricks of our "friends". Russia has no and cannot have friends in this world, except for its own people, and even among them there are traitors.
        1. Edvagan
          Edvagan 20 August 2014 15: 17
          +11
          Russia's only allies are its army and navy.
          You can add to this classic phrase: both its OWN industry and agriculture. And we’ll buy mangoes with oranges, not in Brazil, like India or Mexico
          1. Marisat
            Marisat 20 August 2014 15: 34
            0
            Sorry, accidentally promoted.
            I fully support your position.
          2. baltika-18
            baltika-18 20 August 2014 16: 53
            -1
            Quote: Edvagan
            And we’ll buy mangoes and oranges, not in Brazil, like India or Mexico
            If there’s anything. I’ll give you some information to think about. Oil trading today. WTI brand. You can increase it.
            1. Mama_Cholli
              Mama_Cholli 20 August 2014 17: 33
              +3
              The growth of American oil on the stock exchange is not an indicator at all, as is the rate of the American dollar.
              You need to understand that speculation on the stock exchange is not the same with natural demand. It can be artificial.
          3. sgazeev
            sgazeev 21 August 2014 08: 28
            +2
            Quote: Edvagan
            Russia's only allies are its army and navy.
            You can add to this classic phrase: both its OWN industry and agriculture. And we’ll buy mangoes with oranges, not in Brazil, like India or Mexico

            What is all life in mangoes and oranges? When it’s not enough, you always want more. The New Year came with the smell of tangerine, you can’t hang an orange on the tree. You should use it reasonably, in moderation. For me, jacket potatoes, onions and sunflower oil with the smell are just right. Therefore, Russia will win horseradish, what time that least ascetics, content with little. angry
            1. Anti-ukra
              Anti-ukra 21 August 2014 09: 24
              0
              I agree completely .... I put +
        2. baltika-18
          baltika-18 20 August 2014 15: 22
          -1
          Quote: Svetlana
          There is no and cannot be friends in this world for Russia, except for its own people, and even traitors come across among it.
          We have treacherous power, and the people are good and for the most part not malicious and intelligent. And we have not been lucky for 23 years with the authorities and the elite.
          Quote: Svetlana
          Until we feed ourselves
          And in order for us to start feeding ourselves, we had to invest money not in Treasuries, but in agriculture. And to lower the price of solarium now, because it’s harvesting. But the “patriots” don’t want to notice this, because “Crimea is ours.
          Quote: Thought Giant
          Let's hope that Russia will escape the traps set by her mattresses.
          Is the giant really a crucian-idealist or pretend to be? In Russia, the system is absolutely the same as in the whole world, and this system of relationships has been created and is controlled not by US, but by IMI. And to confront this system of economic relations you need to be outside it, that is to have something else, being in it is not possible to resist it. Now we have the whole economy operating according to the laws that they created, created to control others and make profits.
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 20 August 2014 17: 39
            +2
            Quote: baltika-18
            We have treacherous power, and the people are good and for the most part not malicious and intelligent. And we have not been lucky for 23 years with the authorities and the elite.

            Only 23? Open your eyes. Russia has had bad luck with power since the summer of 1953, when Zhukov staged a military coup and the murder of L.P. Beria. And so that it did not look quite like a putsch, he put a puppet, the bald clown Khrushch, in a chair, intending to rule from behind the chair, pulling the strings. True, then the puppet contrived to send the "puppeteer" to resign from all military and party posts, but, as they say in America, "two wrongs don't make right" ("2 lawlessness is still wrong", if translated not literally, but by meaning ). The dynamics set by Stalin was broken. It was the Zhukov putsch, not humpbacked perestroika, that was the starting point in the process that led to the destruction of the USSR.
            1. Vorlon
              Vorlon 20 August 2014 17: 49
              +1
              You bully how do you know? But seriously, have you read Bushkov's "Frozen Throne"?
              1. Revolver
                Revolver 20 August 2014 18: 58
                0
                Quote: Vorlon
                How do you know that?

                As they said in the era before the Internet, "I am literate, I read newspapers." Although now I read more and more on the net. smile

                Quote: Vorlon
                But seriously, have you read Bushkov's "Frozen Throne"?
                No. Thanks for the tip, I’ll definitely look.
                1. sgazeev
                  sgazeev 21 August 2014 12: 03
                  0
                  Quote: Nagan
                  Quote: Vorlon
                  How do you know that?

                  As they said in the era before the Internet, "I am literate, I read newspapers." Although now I read more and more on the net. smile

                  Quote: Vorlon
                  But seriously, have you read Bushkov's "Frozen Throne"?
                  No. Thanks for the tip, I’ll definitely look.

                  Sometimes it’s useful to inhale printing ink, clever thoughts come. A book is a friend of a person, not a housing office. A book makes a person a part of the plot. On the Internet, I fell off and forgot, there is only one void in my head. For example, young youths. fool
              2. kosmos1980
                kosmos1980 20 August 2014 21: 21
                0
                And the first part of the book. I advise everyone simply, clearly, informatively. After reading it, you might wonder if it was that simple. I advise you to read Starikov "to the heap".
            2. sgazeev
              sgazeev 21 August 2014 11: 56
              0
              Quote: Nagan
              Quote: baltika-18
              We have treacherous power, and the people are good and for the most part not malicious and intelligent. And we have not been lucky for 23 years with the authorities and the elite.

              Only 23? Open your eyes. Russia has had bad luck with power since the summer of 1953, when Zhukov staged a military coup and the murder of L.P. Beria. And so that it did not look quite like a putsch, he put a puppet, the bald clown Khrushch, in a chair, intending to rule from behind the chair, pulling the strings. True, then the puppet contrived to send the "puppeteer" to resign from all military and party posts, but, as they say in America, "two wrongs don't make right" ("2 lawlessness is still wrong", if translated not literally, but by meaning ). The dynamics set by Stalin was broken. It was the Zhukov putsch, not humpbacked perestroika, that was the starting point in the process that led to the destruction of the USSR.

              It is necessary to send this opus to the great-granddaughter of the "maize", let him teach history. fool
        3. Mama_Cholli
          Mama_Cholli 20 August 2014 17: 28
          0
          All is correct. The import substitution policy should ideally guarantee above all the development of national production, and only then the redistribution of imports from other countries.
        4. ibnvladimir
          ibnvladimir 21 August 2014 03: 55
          0
          But what about the army and navy? Oh yes they are not friends, they are allies.
        5. sgazeev
          sgazeev 21 August 2014 11: 53
          0
          Quote: Svetlana
          This was to be expected. The spoon is way to dinner. Until we start feeding ourselves, we will be dependent on any factors and vulnerable to any dirty tricks of our "friends". Russia has no and cannot have friends in this world, except for its own people, and even among them there are traitors.

          Talk continues that the president will return to the question of the need for a large-scale reorganization of the government. Most likely, this will happen in September. In particular, they talk about this in Sochi, where the president spends almost all of his working time. And where important government people, large businessmen and officials constantly ply.
          They say that they complain to the president about the “Medvedev cabinet” and cite their arguments about the impossibility of the Russian economy in the conditions of sanctions under a weak government and the involvement of some members of the “Medvedev cabinet”, primarily from the financial and economic “bloc”, in the West. In such circumstances, to postpone the decision on the reorganization of the government is impractical.
          According to some hints from visitors to the Sochi residence, President V. Putin really and has long been thinking about this problem. At the same time, they are also discussing the upcoming reorganization of the presidential administration, and not just the government. Alas, they say that the main personnel criterion for a future reorganization, it seems, will be political reliability.
          As already mentioned, S. Ivanova, V. Volodin, S. Sobyanin, S. Shoigu, I. Sechin and Dm. Rogozin.
          But for the time being, these are just conversations. In the meantime, the negative effect of the latest US and EU sanctions on the Russian economy is being assessed. And above all, for the interests of the "captains" of Russian business, who are associated with the "tops" of the executive branch. The final decision will be made by V. Putin and those "captains" of the business who are in his inner circle. And only after that will conclusions be drawn about whether the resignation will personally help Dm. Medvedev overcoming this negative effect. We think together! bully
      2. vorobey
        vorobey 20 August 2014 15: 09
        +10
        Quote: baltika-18
        Brazil on which they staked in the supply of meat to the country took and increased the selling prices for meat (it was $ 5.4 per kilo, it became $ 7.3). How do gentlemen-comrades "patriots" such a turn?


        Kolya, why can't you do without Brazilian beef? I won’t take away from our little pigs 180 rubles each and nothing ... Yes, for lovers of delicacies - how do French frogs differ from ours ...

        And the Kalmyk lamb is worse than imported? Kolya, there are still Argentines on Brazilians ..
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 20 August 2014 15: 37
          +4
          Quote: vorobey
          Kolya, why can't you do without Brazilian beef?
          Sasha Sparrow, I explain popularly. The price of meat was 250 rubles / kg, now it has become 290 rubles / kg, the increase is palpable, no matter what it is Brazilian or not.
          Quote: vorobey
          Kolya, there are still Argentines on Brazilians ..
          Brazil and Argentina are countries that are integrated into the world economy in the same way as we are, and they, like us, have decent accounts payable to global financial institutions, which are controlled by you you know who, and if Brazil and Argentina go against and will supply products at low prices they will be defaulted and immersed in a crisis that will result in a change of power. Argentina has already received a warning before Putin's visit, so I would not particularly rely on South American "friends." It's just that besides the VO website, you need to be interested in world events more wide.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 20 August 2014 16: 04
            +3
            Quote: baltika-18
            The price of meat was 250 rubles / kg, now it has become 290 rubles / kg, the increase is tangible, and



            Kolya, call FAS to monitor the guys to the fullest ...
          2. vorobey
            vorobey 20 August 2014 16: 50
            +4
            Quote: baltika-18
            Argentina has already received a warning before Putin's visit, so I would not put my hopes on South American "friends". It's just that, in addition to the VO website, you need to be more interested in world events.


            It’s wide but not one-sided ... The Leader’s cruise in Latin America was not simple and the BRICS decision to create an IMF alternative fund was also made before responding to the sanctions ... So the decision was made carefully and deliberately ... Kolya, don’t disappoint .. . comprehensively analyze ... Argentina was warned but China and Russia made it clear that they would support ... China, too, must have its own billion with dashing feed ...
            1. baltika-18
              baltika-18 20 August 2014 23: 05
              -1
              Quote: vorobey
              China, too, has to feed its own billion.
              China ...... A very interesting question. Why do you think they are silent about the price of gas under the contract with China? Why, after the conclusion of the contract, Gazprom announced that it is necessary to regularly increase the price of gas on the domestic market?
        2. asar
          asar 20 August 2014 16: 08
          +6
          I do not know how in your regions, but in the Urals, the Volga region your meat! And what for, neither Brazilian nor French!
          First of all, you need to raise your own! Politics is politics, but the land is empty, no quotes! Turn power to your land, do not forget - the country's food security is "built" primarily on its own land!
        3. sgazeev
          sgazeev 21 August 2014 12: 10
          0
          Quote: vorobey
          Quote: baltika-18
          Brazil on which they staked in the supply of meat to the country took and increased the selling prices for meat (it was $ 5.4 per kilo, it became $ 7.3). How do gentlemen-comrades "patriots" such a turn?


          Kolya, why can't you do without Brazilian beef? I won’t take away from our little pigs 180 rubles each and nothing ... Yes, for lovers of delicacies - how do French frogs differ from ours ...

          And the Kalmyk lamb is worse than imported? Kolya, there are still Argentines on Brazilians ..

          By the way, Father’s beef already arrives, the price is acceptable. bully
      3. nvv
        nvv 20 August 2014 15: 22
        +3
        Quote: baltika-18
        Quote: Dmitry Abramov
        It’s scary for our children,
        Do not worry about children, they will live in a fair country and in a completely different world.
        And according to the article. "Even satellites are no longer trusting the Americans." But the paradox continues to strongly trust the dollar. And even Russia, despite the sanctions, continues to invest money in American debt securities. And the BRICS partner Brazil has staked on in the supply of meat to the country took and increased selling prices for meat (it was $ 5.4 per kilo, it became $ 7.3). How do gentlemen-comrades "patriots" such a turn?

        Baltic I’m a patriot. But Putin is not seven-armed, seven-fold. Let's wait. If nothing changes, I won’t become a patriot either.
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 20 August 2014 15: 39
          -2
          Quote: nvv
          .But Putin is not seven-armed, seven-armed
          He is a scammer, I think I have a clear definition for him. I twist and twist ..... only here we are in the role of suckers.
          1. nvv
            nvv 20 August 2014 15: 54
            +4
            You're wrong. Or maybe I'm wrong. Life will judge. I start from Petrov's lectures, which say who Comrade Putin is. There is nothing idealized, things are called by their proper names. But you start from the current situation, not understanding what is happening.
            1. baltika-18
              baltika-18 20 August 2014 16: 02
              -4
              Quote: nvv
              You start from the current situation, not understanding what is happening.
              Alas, I understand better than anyone probably ..... But it’s not easier for me from this understanding, but harder than anyone, because I can’t do anything I understand. Everything that should be, is bound to happen.
              1. nvv
                nvv 20 August 2014 16: 20
                -4
                Nikolai, no, better than the Baltic, smells of the sea ... Look at this. It says who is Comrade Putin. And if you understand, u you open your eyes to what is happening.
                1. baltika-18
                  baltika-18 20 August 2014 16: 50
                  +1
                  Quote: nvv
                  Nikolay, no, the Baltic is better, it smells of the sea ..
                  Alas, Petrov is no longer there. And this is hardly an accident.
                  1. nvv
                    nvv 21 August 2014 02: 57
                    0
                    Quote: baltika-18
                    Quote: nvv
                    Nikolay, no, the Baltic is better, it smells of the sea ..
                    Alas, Petrov is no longer there. And this is hardly an accident.

                    I am sure that this is not an accident. And the followers do not look into the eyes. Are you afraid, hiding? And time is ticking.
                2. sgazeev
                  sgazeev 21 August 2014 12: 30
                  0
                  Cases of bygone days. Now the situation is different. request
            2. Mama_Cholli
              Mama_Cholli 20 August 2014 17: 45
              +3
              Let me be the third (quorum). Each of you has its own truth. But please keep in mind that they don’t shoot rockets at your children and there’s something to eat. So not everything is so bad ... No problem, only the dead.

              In general, we sit on the priest exactly and look ...
              1. nvv
                nvv 21 August 2014 03: 22
                +2
                Quote: Mama_Cholli


                In general, we sit on the priest exactly and look ...

                Sitting, Kuru? Grandfather Fir, I'm not an ostrich. The result of my komenty, two pluses and 232 views. So I'm not alone and it pleases. I do not pay attention to the minuses, and even without comments.
                1. Mama_Cholli
                  Mama_Cholli 21 August 2014 06: 05
                  +2
                  smile Accepted. I don’t put cons at all, because I don’t understand why they are? In any case, they certainly will not change the opponent’s opinions.
                  I’m actually not a fan of Putin, but I think that Russia is currently behaving the most correctly, from how it could behave.
                  I was more afraid for the future of children when B. Yeltsin was in power.
      4. insafufa
        insafufa 20 August 2014 15: 27
        +2
        Here recently I came across an article that we are building up a gold reserve by changing it to Treasury papers
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 20 August 2014 15: 56
          0
          Quote: insafufa
          Here recently I came across an article that we are building up a gold reserve by changing it to Treasury papers
          We are changing treasury bills to support the ruble, it was sold in March for the amount of 26 billion dollars. The amount of gold is 1040 tons, an increase of 50 tons compared to last year, total gold and foreign exchange reserves decreased in August compared to January by 2% and are 526,4 billion dollars. So we do not exchange any "Treasuries" for gold. On the contrary, now we are buying "Treasuries", the last purchase for 2,5 billion dollars in June.
      5. nicollider
        nicollider 20 August 2014 16: 02
        0
        it’s great, but it was not possible to reach the data on the link, there is no access. give a link to open information.
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 20 August 2014 16: 15
          -1
          Quote: nicollider
          it’s great, but I couldn’t reach the data from the link
          Just entered normally. Here is a screenshot from there. It is possible to increase, a breakdown by months since June 2014. Traffic movement.
    3. Giant thought
      Giant thought 20 August 2014 14: 58
      0
      Let's hope that Russia will escape the traps set by her mattresses.
  2. Federal
    Federal 20 August 2014 14: 33
    +4
    Caricature issue 60 x, and how relevant today.
    1. Federal
      Federal 20 August 2014 14: 35
      +4
      Just a business, nothing personal.
      1. waisson
        waisson 20 August 2014 14: 43
        +3
        -------------- hi
  3. Koloradovatnik
    Koloradovatnik 20 August 2014 14: 33
    +6
    Summary from the headquarters of the Army of the Southeast for the night of August 20: the punishers breaking through in Ilovaisk are surrounded, attacks on Donetsk and Makeevka are repulsed

    During the night, the situation did not undergo significant changes. The enemy made attempts to seize the north-eastern outskirts of Donetsk and Ilovaiskiy. Intensive shelling of infrastructure facilities and residential areas of settlements in the Donetsk region continued. Over the past 30 hours, an increase in the intensity of sniper fire has been noted in Donetsk, which has resulted in a significant increase in civilian casualties. National Guard units attempted to seize the settlement of Staromikhaylovka on the western outskirts of Donetsk. Self-sacrificing efforts of the self-defense forces repulsed all enemy attacks and prevented the enemy's attempts to seize Makeevka. During the battle for it, units of the Ukrainian power structures lost up to 19 people in killed and wounded.In Ilovaisk, on the eve of the day and throughout the night, the militia fought with superior forces of punitive forces. On August XNUMX, as a result of hostilities, the enemy captured one of the quarters on the southern outskirts of the city. Militia reserves that came to the rescue made it possible to encircle the enemy. The artillery of the militia launched a fire raid on the positions of punitive forces in the areas of the Donetsk airport and the Red Partisan. Intelligence data confirm information about the actions of the National Guard saboteurs on the alleged routes of the convoy with humanitarian cargo. As a result of fierce night battles, enemy losses amounted to three tanks, three infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, about ten vehicles, up to one hundred and fifty people killed and wounded.
    http://rusvesna.su/news/1408523934
    1. Koloradovatnik
      Koloradovatnik 20 August 2014 14: 34
      0
      And thanks to Eugene for a competent analysis. hi
  4. Kulakov_Dmitry
    Kulakov_Dmitry 20 August 2014 14: 36
    +2
    How nice to read a real expert, not homegrown talkers.
  5. Same lech
    Same lech 20 August 2014 14: 36
    +1
    What is called a business.


    And people are dying ... in UKRAINE our Russian people are dying .... business is nothing personal .... TO HIM TO BE Failed together with the USA. am
  6. mig31
    mig31 20 August 2014 14: 37
    +3
    I observe and see that the THOUSAND HISTORY OF GREAT RUSSIA, the rotten west, with its rotten "values", has not taught anything !!!!!!! Plra of Russia to teach another lesson to the near west ...
  7. Carlos
    Carlos 20 August 2014 14: 42
    +3
    The states have no allies, only geopolitical interests. Modern politicians need to know the history of the United States well. The history of betrayals.
  8. sever.56
    sever.56 20 August 2014 14: 42
    +7
    The motto of Alexander the Great was: - "I came. I saw. I won." The motto of the United States can be the words: - "He came. Shit and left." Washington's policy has always been destructive. It is based only on benefit, enrichment and submission of the whole world to oneself, loved ones.
  9. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 20 August 2014 14: 45
    +3
    A lot of words, but everything is simpler. The SGA still wants to extend the time when everyone owes them for their green paper!
  10. vigor1288
    vigor1288 20 August 2014 14: 45
    +1
    The exact remark is bureaucracy; it can then destroy all good intentions. Well, the business, and it is managed, which is especially significant recently. The same business has turned the EU from wolves into a pack of jackals, ready to cling to each other's throats. And the USA itself turned out to be not so smooth. The flip side of the coin however.
  11. GCD
    GCD 20 August 2014 14: 46
    +11
    I apologize for being off topic! But I could not ignore it!
    They are already fully preparing for the land)))
    1. Koloradovatnik
      Koloradovatnik 20 August 2014 14: 52
      +2
      Getting ready for the EARTH is how ??? laughing
      1. GCD
        GCD 20 August 2014 14: 54
        +2
        Well, just like I said the measures of Kiev)))))))
        1. Dezinto
          Dezinto 20 August 2014 15: 05
          +4
          Today, tomorrow, not everyone can be ready for land, or rather, not only everyone who is in the cabinet, but those four out of two should always be ready for land.

          Klitschko clearly understands this!

          laughing

          wassat
          1. Svetlana
            Svetlana 20 August 2014 15: 07
            +1
            laughing Klitschko-Psak understands!
          2. Dezinto
            Dezinto 20 August 2014 15: 07
            +4


            GOOD LUCK TO KYIV WITH SUCH MAYOR! fellow
    2. Tima
      Tima 20 August 2014 15: 02
      +2
      You fool, you yourself, I see, you’ve been sitting by candlelight since the collapse of the USSR, you idiot, you don’t have enough romance for Ukrainians, go to Donbas, there’s a lot of romance!
    3. STALGRAD76
      STALGRAD76 20 August 2014 15: 18
      0
      Yes it’s a fun rzhak laughing .
      And if not, it’s sad, the measure is needed in everything without a doubt and energy saving is propagated everywhere but without extremes of course ......
  12. gesha313
    gesha313 20 August 2014 14: 58
    0
    Who does not fart he!
  13. Everest2014
    Everest2014 20 August 2014 15: 11
    0
    Quote: baltika-18
    How are gentlemen-comrade "patriots" such a turn?

    This is called a market mechanism - increased demand implies an increase in price. Textbook on management and trade google power?
  14. the polar
    the polar 20 August 2014 15: 12
    +7
    "The conditions in which Russia is placed after the start of the new Cold War are much better than in the 50s. A different economic and technological level, a flexible and developed financial system, the degree of integration into the surrounding world make it possible with success."

    It is ridiculous to compare present-day Russia, exploited by a gang of cosmopolitan oligarchs who pump out the national wealth into foreign banks, tied the Russian economy to the dollar, which is technologically dependent on the West ... it is ridiculous to compare such Russia with the USSR.
    Such written stupidity only reflects the pathologically insane Jewish hatred of the Stalinist period of history, when the USSR was the only superpower on the planet that defeated Euro-fascism and spread its influence to half of Europe and China.
  15. Finches
    Finches 20 August 2014 15: 12
    +2
    The trouble of the USA is, oddly enough, the collapse of the USSR! This is best understood by the true masters of America, all sorts of Rothschilds, Rockefellers and the like, no enemy, no profit! Stupid American politicians are arrogant, and their masters have become sad! And everyone else began to see that America is a very large and bloody machine of money for the elite, but at the expense of, including its allies! It seems that when the USSR was there they were partners, and now they saw that they were simply fulfilling the will of others! Rather, they have not yet seen, but began to understand! Suddenly, it turns out that Russia, however, like the USSR and the enemy, has never been partners, and the enemy is overseas! Much more time must pass so that the peoples of Europe realize how fooling them are, but the first enlightenments already exist and .., in many ways even thanks to Ukraine!
  16. Eustace
    Eustace 20 August 2014 16: 01
    +1
    "Good Russia" is Russia, which is silent in a rag and silently dies for the interests of the United States.
  17. Major Yurik
    Major Yurik 20 August 2014 16: 12
    +4
    [quote = DEZINTO]Today, tomorrow, not everyone can be ready for land, or rather, not only everyone who is in the cabinet, but those four out of two should always be ready for land.

    Klitschko clearly understands this!

    When interviewed at the boxing school of the Klitschko brothers, laughing do blows on the head affect a person’s mental abilities, 5% answered that they didn’t, 95% did not understand the question.
  18. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 20 August 2014 16: 27
    0
    Quote: Svetlana
    This was to be expected. The spoon is way to dinner. Until we start feeding ourselves, we will be dependent on any factors and vulnerable to any dirty tricks of our "friends". Russia has no and cannot have friends in this world, except for its own people, and even among them there are traitors.

    Everything is correct. All these years. traitors allowed all but our own to our markets. It will be so for a very long time. When the world begins to crumble, everyone will run to us. But this will not happen to us.
  19. Aandrewsir
    Aandrewsir 20 August 2014 16: 37
    +3
    Well, that the position of Russia at the beginning of the new Cold War is better now than in the 1950s, one can argue. Then there was the USSR (more human and natural resources), there were allies (there were, there were. You can argue which ones, but there were), there was a freshly victorious participation of the USSR in the Second World War. Former allies remembered how the Red Army "ground" dozens of Wehrmacht divisions, and then in the Far East rolled over the Japs. What now? There are fewer people, fewer natural resources, almost no allies, liberals argue that we "cannot do it without the West." And some people believe them ... But this is not a reason to "sprinkle ashes on your head" and surrender to the mercy of the Afronegro! You need to work, strengthen and not bend under anyone! Here is such, in my opinion, the alignment ...
  20. Vundervaflya
    Vundervaflya 20 August 2014 17: 51
    0
    Author Eugene Satanovsky


    Clever man. It is always a pleasure to read and listen to experts in your field.
  21. Squares
    Squares 20 August 2014 17: 58
    -3
    Quote: Moment
    Russia should not lose. Or then the whole world will plunge into a single chaos.
    BRICS is now the whole trouble for America and Europe.

    Our next friends will be the Papuans of the new Guinea)))) They are brothers in spirit to us ...))))
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 20 August 2014 23: 34
      +2
      Quote: Squares
      Our next friends will be the Papuans of the new Guinea)))) They are brothers in spirit to us ...))))

      Yeah, Papuans' friends are better than American partners)))
  22. dzau
    dzau 20 August 2014 19: 00
    0
    We started for health, but finished about Israel.

    Aching, this time, about the United States. I don’t understand, but why on earth should the states have to be something to their satellite?
    1. faterdom
      faterdom 20 August 2014 20: 07
      +1
      In a related way. The United States Political Elite (WASP) is a mixture of Irish, British, and Jewish roots. Moreover, the latter widely represent precisely the currently dominant financial capital.
      But, I must say, Israel has always had and has two options: to be either a Russian military and political stronghold in the BV, or American.
      1. dzau
        dzau 21 August 2014 03: 51
        0
        Actually there is one more: not to be.
        1. andj61
          andj61 21 August 2014 06: 34
          0
          Then get more options:
          1. To be a Russian military-political stronghold in the BV.
          2. To be an American military-political stronghold in BV.
          3. Not to be a Russian military-political stronghold in the BV.
          4. Not to be an American military-political stronghold in BV.
          5. Not to be.
          Well, combinations of options are possible to some extent.
          1. sgazeev
            sgazeev 21 August 2014 13: 33
            0
            Quote: andj61
            Then get more options:
            1. To be a Russian military-political stronghold in the BV.
            2. To be an American military-political stronghold in BV.
            3. Not to be a Russian military-political stronghold in the BV.
            4. Not to be an American military-political stronghold in BV.
            5. Not to be.
            Well, combinations of options are possible to some extent.

            And option number 6. Against all, there is no Israel, only memories in the Talmud. laughing
      2. sgazeev
        sgazeev 21 August 2014 13: 31
        0
        [quote = faterdom] In a related way. The United States Political Elite (WASP) is a mixture of Irish, British, and Jewish roots. Moreover, the latter widely represent precisely the currently dominant financial capital.
        But, I must say, Israel has always had and has two options: to be either a Russian military-political stronghold in the BV or American. [/ Quot Israel chose the second, offended by the ice ax Trotsky. laughing