Losses forced the Ukrainian army to use Strela-1 missile systems as conventional armored vehicles.

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Ukrainian security forces fighting in Novorossia began to experience a shortage of light-armored vehicles due to heavy losses. In this regard, they began using vehicles that were not previously intended for this, in addition to various trucks lined with armor plates, for example, the Strela-1 air defense missile system and the Konkurs combat vehicles, Messenger of Mordovia.



The publication writes that after the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Eastern Europe, "Ukraine got many hundreds of armored personnel carriers, including modern at the beginning of the 90's BTR-80." However, businessmen in uniform began to "correct" the situation, annually selling abroad a large number of "unnecessary" armored vehicles. And with those that remained, removed parts and installed on another, going for export, equipment.

“It is therefore not surprising that after almost three months of hostilities, most of the armored personnel carriers in the zone of the so-called ATO have practically knocked out a resource. Many armored vehicles turned Donetsk militia into scrap metal ", - note the authors of the publication.

Now finding a replacement for the retired armored personnel carriers is becoming increasingly difficult. That forced Ukrainian military leaders to resort to "a variety of non-trivial actions."

So in one of the columns of the Ukrainian army, the Strela-1 air defense complex was seen, only without missiles. It turned out that the car was used as a normal "infantry delivery vehicle". According to military experts, the value of the former complex is not very high, and there is no way out for those who are seeking to conquer the Donbass.

"Herald" suggests that soon there may appear "even more exotic options for the so-called misuse of combat vehicles."
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  1. portoc65
    +26
    19 August 2014 14: 21
    Soon, dill will be replaced by the dill from the lack of tanks ... the Ukrainian army is the main supplier of military equipment of New Russia ... now there are hurricanes and tulips ... tanks ... and then they started with hunting berdyanka ...
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      1. +9
        19 August 2014 14: 27
        Ukrovoyaki on bicycles and with a pitchfork will be at war) when it becomes very tight with equipment)
        1. +5
          19 August 2014 15: 18
          Europeans will help SOS Poland, Hungary, Romania. The failure of Germany and Finland is so far only symptoms of a changing position. And of course the USA and Canada. So with the armored vehicles and other weapons the junta will have what time will be in order.
          1. +1
            19 August 2014 15: 23
            Quote: skeptik2999
            Europeans will help SOS Poland, Hungary, Romania. The failure of Germany and Finland is so far only symptoms of a changing position. And of course the USA and Canada. So with the armored vehicles and other weapons the junta will have what time will be in order.


            They can, of course, toss up old Soviet technology, like Hungary. But a few dozen pieces today will not solve the problems of ukrovoyak.
        2. 0
          19 August 2014 17: 10
          And Velosykhped pad will Ukraine?)) Todi zgodin!
    2. +21
      19 August 2014 14: 24
      And when all the equipment will be handed over to the militia, then what will they fight? Interestingly, in Kiev there is a museum of the Second World War, and there are carts, Katyushas, ​​although, as they all plunder, they are just monuments.
      And what about the militia on the armored personnel carrier, and the national guard on carts.
      1. +39
        19 August 2014 14: 30
        Concept car - Transport vehicle of the junta "Peremoga-1" with full complements of battalions "Dnipro-1,2,3", "Azov", Shakhtersk and "Kuev-1,2" goes to Donbass ...
        1. +40
          19 August 2014 14: 32
          Somewhere in Ukraine, around September. The next stage of the ATO. Transfer of Ukrainian equipment:
          1. +1
            19 August 2014 14: 38
            "Mad Max"?)
            1. +6
              19 August 2014 15: 03
              He is the most, "Mad" right up to blue in the face! laughing
        2. +67
          19 August 2014 14: 33
          Novelty UKRVPK light single armored personnel carrier - "Cotton-1" is being tested.
          1. +1
            19 August 2014 17: 12
            What a tear !! ha-haha !!. Put a plus
          2. +1
            19 August 2014 21: 49
            Quote: ispaniard
            Novelty UKRVPK light single armored personnel carrier - "Cotton-1" is being tested.



            Dynamic protection is impressive laughing
        3. +2
          19 August 2014 19: 46
          Quote: ispaniard
          Concept car - Transport vehicle of the junta "Peremoga-1" with full complements of battalions "Dnipro-1,2,3", "Azov", Shakhtersk and "Kuev-1,2" goes to Donbass ...

          Azov battalion uses and nothing
          1. +2
            19 August 2014 21: 51
            In Lugansk, at one of the enterprises, the militia began the industrial production of armored vehicles. And if Ukrainian enterprises and specialists of punitive battalions are mainly trying to book KAMAZ trucks, then the militias are betting on the Urals.

            And although there is almost no information about him, it is known that Ural-4320 was booked rather non-standard. The first thing that pays attention is the tightly wired protruding “nose”. It seemed that having deprived the engine of cooling, such a reservation would only do much harm. But it turned out that on top of the "nose" there is an air intake. At the same time, inclined armor reduces the risk of breakdown. The sides of the hood were also armored.

            Wired with side armor and gas tanks. But the cabin is booked quite unusual. In front of the windshield mounted armored screen at half height. Most likely, in calm conditions, the driver rides in the usual position, and squats during a fight. The doors are also covered with armor, and the windows are also equipped with loopholes.
    3. Fuse
      +16
      19 August 2014 14: 33
      ATO fighters: We were sent to certain death
      1. wanderer_032
        +5
        19 August 2014 14: 52
        This lieutenant colonel told the journalist that 30 people were sent from the 4700th OMBR of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to carry out "ATO". personnel. 83 people returned to Novograd-Volynsky. of those that went to Donbass.
        That is, the loss of the brigade killed / wounded / etc. missing persons amounted to pr.4671 people. Based on this, it can be argued that only the main base and headquarters in the city of Novograd-Volynsky remained from the brigade.
        1. +5
          19 August 2014 15: 38
          Quote: wanderer_032
          This lieutenant colonel told the journalist that 30 people were sent from the 4700th OMBR of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to carry out "ATO". personnel. 83 people returned to Novograd-Volynsky. of those that went to Donbass.
          That is, the loss of the brigade killed / wounded / etc. missing persons amounted to pr.4671 people. Based on this, it can be argued that only the main base and headquarters in the city of Novograd-Volynsky remained from the brigade.

          According to information received from Volodymyr Rogov, co-chairman of the Popular Front of Novorossiya, as of August 19, the total losses among the Ukrainian military amounted to 23 498 people. Among them killed and wounded (14 378 people), prisoners (158 people). About 9 thousand deserters. The last category raises the most questions: it may include not only military personnel who have switched to the side of New Russia, but also those who, for unknown reasons, were not included in the list of losses.Read fully here
      2. Leonidych
        +1
        19 August 2014 15: 00
        morning began in the village ....
      3. kay4yk
        +7
        19 August 2014 15: 37
        even if one of the screamers demanded the end of fratricide! this is outrageous. at least one would call Kiev a junta!
        1. +5
          19 August 2014 16: 11
          ...... You’ll come from them .... They all complain that the armored men are mute, the ammunition is mute ..... Yes, and our media pick up when they cross into the Russian Federation, that they say they crossed the border because there is no water, there is no food , and most importantly, NO AMMUNITION .... That's it ... belay
        2. 0
          19 August 2014 16: 32
          What is left to say that ZOMBIUKROMAYDANUYT .......
        3. 0
          19 August 2014 23: 32
          yes yes ... I also noticed ... nobody ...
      4. +1
        19 August 2014 16: 11
        Quote: Fuse
        ATO fighters: We were sent to certain death
      5. 0
        19 August 2014 16: 32
        Humanly sorry for the mothers and wives of the dead guys. Each of us has children and the worst thing is to survive our children. Who needs this war ??? "Satan's Loot" is doing its job !!
    4. +1
      19 August 2014 14: 34
      My heart feels, soon dill will be used as ordinary trucks chassis Katyusha, tk. ammunition for it will not be enough.
    5. +1
      19 August 2014 14: 40
      The junta probably expects to throw hats on the last separatists. Because the last ports have already been laid by then.
    6. +1
      19 August 2014 14: 50
      PPC !!! These scum soon as policemen during V.O.V. On carts will ride !!!
      1. +2
        19 August 2014 15: 18
        And well done militias. Cleverly wring out the technique. Soon, Ukrainians and those already paid for preparing for export will be thrown into battle. And customers will not tolerate such a kidalov - the story with the Iraqi BTR-4 confirms.
    7. +1
      19 August 2014 15: 22
      Quote: portoc65
      Soon, dill on the reactor from the lack of tanks will change.

      I’m presenting a picture, it means soldiers are going to Donetsk using the ChTZ, DT-75 and Kamatsu bulldozers with machine guns and grenade launchers on the cockpit — it’s kind of like tanks, and they will have armored personnel carriers and MTZ and UMZ tractors hung with metal sheets.
      1. +1
        19 August 2014 22: 28
        This is on ground technology ...
        Have to fly like this?
    8. +1
      19 August 2014 15: 32
      Quote: portoc65
      Soon dill on the reactor from the lack of tanks will change ...

      Yeah, they will transfer to donkeys, because the tractor needs to be refueled. Although there compassionate Europeans can throw something.
      1. 0
        19 August 2014 16: 55
        How dad Makhno will ride on carts! laughing
    9. +1
      19 August 2014 17: 34
      I propose to transfer to carts!
      What the hell are goats ?!
    10. 0
      19 August 2014 20: 04
      Quote: portoc65
      Soon, dill will be replaced by the dill from the lack of tanks ... the Ukrainian army is the main supplier of military equipment of New Russia ... now there are hurricanes and tulips ... tanks ... and then they started with hunting berdyanka ...

      So they are already booking "loaves". Soon they will reach "constipation" hung with cast-iron pans.
    11. 0
      19 August 2014 20: 20
      I apologize for the impudent intrusion and for the link. Dear admins, do not erase, believe and check, you can laugh about it! wassat Miracle - "pepelats". He would still have "gravitsapu" - the price would not have been!
      http://shostka.info/news_shostka/na_sumwine_hotyat_delat_bronetehniku
      1. 0
        19 August 2014 21: 24
        This is something ... And x ... n knows him. EXACTLY MAIDED !!!!!!!!!!!!
      2. 0
        20 August 2014 00: 28
        Miracle - "pepelats"

        Prudently! Carries 10 pieces of "200s" and more "300s". A useful machine will
    12. 0
      20 August 2014 07: 56
      You can still pick up carts for museums.
  2. +11
    19 August 2014 14: 21
    It’s like the use of BRDM, and there was a shortage of armored vehicles from ukrovoyak, bravo militias.
    1. +6
      19 August 2014 14: 31
      It looks like the armored vehicles at ukrov end. It's good
  3. +7
    19 August 2014 14: 22
    Hurry up, they will soon be getting to their zass ... e roadblocks are clinging like locust tanks and BUKs ...
    Ah hohlovoinstvo))))
    1. +4
      19 August 2014 14: 24
      Let me ask which ones? Tanks also tend to run out.
  4. +4
    19 August 2014 14: 22
    armored carts and carts
  5. ECT
    +4
    19 August 2014 14: 22
    Soon they will go in carts. They will trample the attack on carts.
    1. +2
      19 August 2014 16: 19
      Quote: ECT
      Soon they will go in carts. They will trample the attack on carts.

      Nothing new under the moon.
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  7. +7
    19 August 2014 14: 23
    Soon they will adopt the armored Cossacks
    1. +2
      19 August 2014 14: 56
      With this, too, a problem)) ZAZ close wink
    2. +5
      19 August 2014 15: 02
      Quote: Fagot
      Soon they will adopt the armored Cossacks

      Yeah .... Yes , and deliveries will be carried out something like this:
  8. +5
    19 August 2014 14: 23
    Fuck, at the beginning of the year they were listed in the ranks and in storage of 1500 armored personnel carriers of various brands and 600 brdm2, which are what you need to be dill in order to tear all this out in six months.
    1. +6
      19 August 2014 14: 45
      Quote: g1v2
      Fuck, at the beginning of the year they were listed in the ranks and in storage of 1500 armored personnel carriers of various brands and 600 brdm2, which are what you need to be dill in order to tear all this out in six months.

      Well, they were only listed. Nobody really counted them, and the paper will endure everything laughing
  9. +3
    19 August 2014 14: 24
    Not our people will ride a taxi soon ...
  10. +2
    19 August 2014 14: 25
    When these fascists run out of missiles to the "points-M", they can tie carts to them and drive them towards the geyrop until the "Strelkovtsy" caught up ...
  11. +2
    19 August 2014 14: 25
    Not on purpose......
    They have long been using pants for their intended purpose! They cower out of fear, and gather together!
  12. +2
    19 August 2014 14: 25
    So it was counted. And what was in fact and which of them on the move is another question.
  13. +6
    19 August 2014 14: 25
    And what? In Kharkov and Lviv already a considerable stock of equipment? Was everything perekolbusili on the Eastern Front? Did the collector kolomoyki also leave their place? )))
    1. +4
      19 August 2014 14: 28
      her Kolomoisky Jew will not give up
      1. +1
        19 August 2014 14: 38
        Why not give up? decommissioned will be sold as for new ... just the parashka doesn't want to be friends with him .... there were no offers what
    2. +2
      19 August 2014 14: 50
      Quote: Altona

      And what? In Kharkov and Lviv already a considerable stock of equipment? Was everything perekolbusili on the Eastern Front? Did the collector kolomoyki also leave their place? )))


      In Kharkov, tanks are also called "g *** mna", forgive my French, but they are in this state .... At the tank repair plant there are 200 cars, "none" .... hi
  14. +6
    19 August 2014 14: 27
    All that they have "in storage" is scrap metal.
  15. +5
    19 August 2014 14: 27
    It pleases, if the word! Another thing is alarming - military equipment is coming from "small Europe" to help dill! Maybe a fake? Who knows, please clarify!
    How from Hungary - T-72 and SUSHKI ?! And from Poland ?!
  16. +1
    19 August 2014 14: 27
    with errors, but the first one wrote.
  17. +7
    19 August 2014 14: 28
    Losses forced the Ukrainian army to use Strela-1 missile systems as conventional armored vehicles.
    And everything will come in handy for Novorossia ...... with a good owner and a "machine gun" is not superfluous .... We will patch it up, re-equip it and will work in the specialty ... smile
  18. +8
    19 August 2014 14: 30
    No wonder ... lose up to 10-15% per year wink
    1. +2
      19 August 2014 18: 32
      Ukrainians once again set a world record for the prosirai good
    2. +1
      19 August 2014 21: 58
      Quote: gandalf
      No wonder ... lose up to 10-15% per year


      They are also science fiction writers: as we can see in the picture, they have helicopters - black sharks, "F" flyers - something, and the infantry - American special forces.
  19. +11
    19 August 2014 14: 30
    Here is another armored car made in Ukraine:
    1. +17
      19 August 2014 14: 39
      This is slag, but is kung made armored for a look too? On such a member, only the Piglet should be taken to the slaughterhouse ...
      1. 0
        19 August 2014 15: 19
        this is a chicken coop)))
        1. +5
          19 August 2014 15: 36
          Quote: maxxdesign
          this is a chicken coop)))

          Rather a cockroach! smile
    2. +5
      19 August 2014 14: 44
      Wonderful are thy deeds ...
    3. +2
      19 August 2014 14: 47
      It seems that the creator of this "miracle" has revisited Mad Max and other post-apocalyptic films)
      1. +1
        20 August 2014 00: 38
        It seems that the creator of this "miracle" has revisited Mad Max and other post-apocalyptic films)

        ... and still convinced that this is a technique of the Future ... request
    4. +11
      19 August 2014 14: 56
      I saw something like this somewhere ... I remembered! "Iron Kaput"! There were also Major, Drankel and Zhrankel. It was shown on TV together with the "Village of Fools".
      1. +2
        19 August 2014 15: 37
        yes-yes, "SHMULKE !!! Call these two boobies!" smile
    5. 0
      19 August 2014 15: 19
      what is this dovecote))) are they going to fight in 1945? so in Berlin then the nets on our tanks did not save from the Faustpatron) and even more so they won’t save them from RPGs)
    6. 0
      19 August 2014 15: 23
      Quote: quilted jacket
      Here is another armored car made in Ukraine:

      It seemed to me, or in fact, reinforcement was also widely used in this sample? If so, then on the ruin of armored vehicles is experiencing a new period in its development - rebar ...
    7. +1
      19 August 2014 15: 53

      Chains hung, transdek)) think this crap with chains will turn into a merkava ??? laughing
    8. 0
      19 August 2014 15: 58
      Of course, of course, the wheel will not blow apart the flaps from an RPG shot because the chains hang. !!

      lol
    9. wanderer_032
      0
      19 August 2014 17: 05
      Really a cattle truck, they hanged all sorts of crap on him and think that it will save them when fired.
    10. 0
      19 August 2014 18: 35
      Less "Death Race" should be watched (although a car from a truck will be steeper there)
    11. +2
      19 August 2014 19: 17
      Oh, the meat from the cage is waving =)
    12. 0
      20 August 2014 07: 05
      Yes, this is a garage on wheels.
  20. Alexei.N
    +3
    19 August 2014 14: 30
    dill will soon cross the great !!!
    1. 0
      19 August 2014 15: 12
      dill will soon cross the great !!!

      !!! For "protection" from "cumul" they will hang "armor" nets from the beds, I think there are many more of them in dill !!! laughing
  21. +2
    19 August 2014 14: 31
    maybe they just don’t know why they are still needed?
  22. Tsak_day
    -24
    19 August 2014 14: 31
    Belarus can give a couple of dozen SU-27SM3 to help, we have them extra
    1. +3
      19 August 2014 15: 13
      Quote: Tsak_oden
      Belarus can give a couple of dozen SU-27SM3 to help, we have them extra

      To help someone, sorry?
      1. Tsak_day
        -12
        19 August 2014 16: 21
        Brotherly Ukraine, of course. Terrorists have enough to help.
        1. +4
          19 August 2014 17: 19
          Quote: Tsak_oden
          Brotherly Ukraine, of course. Terrorists have enough to help.

          I didn’t try to put on the brain, sanctified?
          1. Tsak_day
            -10
            19 August 2014 18: 19
            When cotton wool instead of brains, it seems that everyone should have cotton wool. It `s naturally. To you to Goodwin.
            1. 0
              19 August 2014 20: 39
              Quote: Tsak_oden
              When cotton wool instead of brains, it seems that everyone should have cotton wool. It `s naturally. To you to Goodwin.

              Heh ... You’re glad. Not with reason, so with humor. By the way. Alaverdi. You have to Scarecrow, in training. He, with his pins, was more distinct than you. Come from here, little one.
        2. +3
          19 August 2014 19: 18
          Oh well! And there are many of you in Belarus? So go brother to dill, loves such mezhlyashko!
    2. +2
      19 August 2014 17: 12
      Quote: Tsak_oden
      Belarus can give a couple of dozen SU-27SM3 to help, we have them extra

      But how can the SU-27 help in the delivery and protection of infantry on the battlefield, can you tell? In addition, you won’t learn to fly this armored personnel carrier in a week, and they won’t do the weather. Not only that the junta gathered to help, but also write nonsense
      1. Tsak_day
        -6
        19 August 2014 18: 17
        The Su-27SM (3) is capable of effectively solving attack tasks as a multi-functional fighter using high-precision air-to-surface weapons, including using satellite bombs. When acting on air targets, the Su-27SM (3) is almost 2 times more effective than its predecessor, the Su-27S, and when acting on ground targets, its effectiveness is more than 3 times higher.
        (Press Service of the Sukhoi Company)
        1. +3
          19 August 2014 19: 07
          Quote: Tsak_oden
          The Su-27SM (3) is capable of effectively solving attack tasks as a multi-functional fighter using high-precision air-to-surface weapons, including using satellite bombs.

          And where is the Ukrainians that high-precision weapon, and even with satellite guidance?
          Quote: Tsak_oden
          When operating on air targets Su-27SM (3)

          By what? Shoot another Boeing?
          Quote: Tsak_oden
          and when operating on ground targets, its effectiveness is more than 3 times higher.

          But doesn’t it seem to you that bomber and attack aircraft, which ukrov already have, are much more effective at ground targets?
          Quote: Tsak_oden
          (Press Service of the Sukhoi Company)

          Thank you, I can read advertising too. But ... have you read the article at all? It is about the lack of armored vehicles, not aircraft. And they have no crews to fly on such a machine. Drying the infantry on the battlefield will not deliver, and in general, the benefits of it in a guerrilla war are very doubtful. Is that from a great height (so that they do not get an arrow) cities to iron, but there the artillery "copes", which is cheaper. And the plane also needs to be refueled with something. I repeat, do not write nonsense, your SU will not help ukram.
          1. Tsak_day
            0
            20 August 2014 09: 54
            Quote: shuhartred
            It is a question of a lack of armored vehicles, rather than aircraft.
            So for now we can only help with fuel. Alien armored vehicles we have so far only present at the parade, while there are no superfluous.
    3. +4
      19 August 2014 17: 23
      Quote: Tsak_oden
      Belarus can give a couple of dozen SU-27SM3 to help, we have them extra

      Surely it seems dear to me that just people like you are superfluous in Belarus. It’s time for you to help the fraternal people. Sign up for volunteers to Lyashko. You look at what you fit him ...
      1. Tsak_day
        -9
        19 August 2014 18: 21
        It is not for you to decide who is superfluous in our country.
        1. +6
          19 August 2014 18: 29
          Quote: Tsak_oden
          It is not for you to decide who is superfluous in our country.

          I don’t know, I don’t know ... My grandfather was very good at deciding who was superfluous in the country. True, he understood this as "in this world." He worked in the Cheka ...
          1. Tsak_day
            0
            20 August 2014 09: 57
            So your grandfather was worse than a policeman. These buried in Kurapaty more than the Germans shot. It would be better to bashfully keep silent about such relatives.
        2. +8
          19 August 2014 19: 10
          Quote: Tsak_oden
          It is not for you to decide who is superfluous in our country.

          And you are the Minister of Defense of the Republic of Belarus to decide that you have extra planes? Especially if they are so good?
          1. Tsak_day
            0
            20 August 2014 10: 01
            Such questions are not what I, and even the Minister of Defense does not solve)
  23. +4
    19 August 2014 14: 32
    You can now advise dill to stock up sandbags. Partly they can replace the armor, and it’s very convenient to fill the 200s with sand. am
  24. +14
    19 August 2014 14: 32
    "Herald" suggests that soon there may appear "even more exotic options for the so-called misuse of combat vehicles."

    Soon we will see ZAZ-965 in military performance
    1. +6
      19 August 2014 14: 47
      Quote: pvv113
      "Herald" suggests that soon there may appear "even more exotic options for the so-called misuse of combat vehicles."

      Soon we will see ZAZ-965 in military performance

      Outwardly - excellent condition .... If the photo is recent - her price tag is comparable to new modern models. To send such a hand to the front, my hand wouldn’t rise ....
    2. 0
      19 August 2014 15: 16
      Soon we will see ZAZ-965 in military performance

      And the "Cliff" sticks out over the "Zaz-965"! "Cheburashka with a" pullet "! That is another" spectacle "! laughing
      1. Cat
        +1
        19 August 2014 20: 13
        Cheburashka (or Ushasty) is a slightly different model of this great (despite its small size) cars. I understood the secret of its legendary cross-country ability as a child, when my grandfather and his friends and I went fishing with two machines - "constipation" and the 21st Volga. At night there was a heavy rain, the coast was blown up to the state of a swamp. Then in the morning 4 men took the "eared" one in their arms and carried him 100 m to the road. And went to get a tractor for the Volga
    3. +2
      19 August 2014 15: 42
      Quote: pvv113
      Soon we will see ZAZ-965 in military performance

      ... And now - "HUMP"! I said "HUMP"! (The meeting place cannot be changed) smile
    4. 0
      19 August 2014 16: 41
      Quote: pvv113
      "Herald" suggests that soon there may appear "even more exotic options for the so-called misuse of combat vehicles."

      Soon we will see ZAZ-965 in military performance

      no, we won’t see zaz, everything, the factory closed! Well, if only museum exhibits, but whether they lie they will go, everything is sold, only mock-ups
    5. +1
      19 August 2014 17: 39
      we won’t see .. ZAZ closed ...
    6. 0
      19 August 2014 23: 15
      Soon we will see ZAZ-965 in military performance




      Something like this
      1. +1
        19 August 2014 23: 39
        Sorry for the take
  25. +18
    19 August 2014 14: 32
    In principle, many Ukrop warriors will enter here, like in an armored bus.
    1. Cat
      +16
      19 August 2014 14: 53
      Quote: Federal
      Basically here

      Too complicated technique. This is more familiar (PanzerBierWagen):
      1. +2
        19 August 2014 15: 18
        Sergey agrees laughing only instead of beer, urine is necessary to pour pig.
        1. Cat
          +6
          19 August 2014 15: 37
          Quote: Federal
          instead of beer, I urinate piglet

          hi
          For this, Porosenko needs to be drunk a lot and plentifully. And now alcohol in Ukraine is very expensive, and water will soon be turned off.
          Therefore, the budget option:
          1. +1
            19 August 2014 15: 45
            laughing good A good option, I support your proposal.
  26. +3
    19 August 2014 14: 33
    Ukrainians are at war because they were taught by minke whales: to bomb, shoot from far away. But in close combat, if they climb, then krants!
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  28. +5
    19 August 2014 14: 33
    And just like a small and very old BRDM-2 machine designed for reconnaissance, the more so even without a machine gun it will help ukrovoyaki - for me, it’s a mystery that it has very little space compared to the BTR-80, and indeed it is designed for completely different tasks, it the main advantage is the small size and speed, as a result of which the body consists of armor a little thicker than the foil and the rest is slag, well, you can see for the stew just right ... Insanity grows stronger.
  29. +5
    19 August 2014 14: 34
    Glamor has not yet been canceled. can also use to move.
  30. Alexandr 2
    +2
    19 August 2014 14: 34
    Let Kolomoisky share his armored mers. Then, all the same, Novorossia will get it.
  31. +2
    19 August 2014 14: 35
    There will still be roofing felts, agricultural machinery will also be used ....
  32. dzau
    +4
    19 August 2014 14: 40
    Are progressing. Switzerland has long had bicycle troops. It can be said that they are leading their aircraft to high European standards.

    Well, in which case, fraternal Latvia always has a rental tank.
    1. Cat
      +3
      19 August 2014 16: 27
      Quote: dzau
      bicycle troops

      Inspired laughing
  33. +6
    19 August 2014 14: 42
    Dill must suffer! I'm talking about those who ruined industry in Ukraine. I remember exactly, in Ukraine she was, and in Ukraine, she suddenly died what
    1. +2
      19 August 2014 15: 20
      Quote: perepilka
      I remember exactly, in Ukraine she was

      And what else. I remember too. In the 80s - 90s they cooperated with Ukrainian metallurgy. Mostly with GOKs. What a time it was! What a friendly local population! Especially female ... Eh ...
      Hi Vova! hi Like a son? Not all polar bears have been speechless by his driving style?
      1. +2
        19 August 2014 17: 20
        Quote: retired
        Hi Vova!

        Hi, Jura! hi
        The son of "Ural" is twenty years old, the YaMZ-236 engine is now restoring, not before pokatushki so far, so there are no nervous breakdowns in the VedMedEs and the command staff. laughing
        1. +1
          19 August 2014 17: 53
          Quote: perepilka
          so far, so that the nervous breakdowns of the Vedmedey and the command staff have not yet been observed

          But as I understand it, they try to stay away. In advance and just in case ... Hello again! hi
  34. +16
    19 August 2014 14: 45
    So they also have super earnings armored vehicles, the so-called coffins!
    1. 0
      19 August 2014 16: 21
      Zaporozhets with a machine gun would be better.
  35. Cat
    +8
    19 August 2014 14: 45
    However, the businessmen in uniform began to "correct" the situation, annually selling abroad a large number of "unnecessary" armored vehicles.

    And not only abroad. Here is a screenshot of the street. Zhmerinsky from Yandex.Maps (2012). By the way, on the streets of Kiev there are a lot of messes with billboards and other rubbish. Mobilize soon ...
  36. +13
    19 August 2014 14: 46
    "censor" today pleased with the editorial from the editor-in-chief Butusov. It turns out that in the reserve of bloody zombies, the organizers can sometimes reason sanely (in some places). For example, that the situation in the LPR, DPR is close to a disaster for the punishers. The economy of the durcaina is squeezed out like a lemon. Losses are hidden from the pigs so that they do not stop jumping towards the ATO. More or less capable units and punishers, who were thirsty for blood and could do something to destroy the militias, were mostly knocked out. The third wave of mobilization replenishes ukrovoy mainly with cannon fodder at the age of old people and green youth who seek to escape from war and do not seek to fight. Militias receive replenishment and equipment with thousands (trained in 4 months) fighters and hundreds of units of equipment. Well, then, "we are going through the forest, we see a miracle." We need a fourth wave of mobilization for university students and older people. Naturally, all around Putin's enemies and hirelings - all senior officers from general to major are proposed to be replaced (I wonder who?). Replaced lustrate. Open recruiting points for "soldiers of fortune" around the world (I wonder what shishi, if everything is already plundered, he writes himself?). "Abroad will help them" (c) According to the pig tradition, everyone should come running and shed blood for the Durkain people. And they themselves are scary scarecrows in social networks will post while drinking.
  37. +8
    19 August 2014 14: 46
    and when these coffins end, they will ride it!
    1. +2
      19 August 2014 14: 53
      Two in one, at the same time a Nazi delivery vehicle and a crematorium on wheels working on the dead carcasses of the delivered Nazis ... Angrily, economically, universally ...
    2. +1
      19 August 2014 15: 48
      Quote: Pridnestrovec
      and when these coffins end, they will ride it!

      What's this? Camp crematorium? what
      1. +5
        19 August 2014 16: 09
        Unfortunately, crematoriums near ukrov are already in business. Traaandets !!.

        New warriors are gathered throughout Ukraine, and for battle for slaughter. A crematorium nearby stands ... waiting.

        That's terrible. The Americans opened a death factory in Ukraine, just as the fascists taught in the forties only now with new technologies! P.I.Indosia rejoices the Slavs kill the Slavs !!!
  38. Zubrminsk
    +2
    19 August 2014 14: 47
    DNR! The junta urgently needs a truce! Pliz)))))))))))))))))))
  39. +3
    19 August 2014 14: 47
    Yes, they have factories in three shifts that work to meet the needs of the army, maybe they decided to ride these cars for exotics, they even send their products for export, arming their allies with modern military equipment, maybe we are wasting nothing in vain at them, with coal in a fire there is still much, as the late Arkady Raikin said, the fire extinguished, although the smoke sometimes comes and if you press me in a dark place against a warm wall, you can still talk to me about something. equipment that was in service with our former worst friends. So the militias still have a lot of work to do.
  40. +9
    19 August 2014 14: 48
    Pravoseki go to conquer the Donbass
  41. +4
    19 August 2014 14: 49
    Oh good news, of course, just to completely knock out the junta's park, another month of INTENSE fighting is needed, do not forget that there is still a base repair, that something is being restored, and Eastern Europe will also deliver, so of course the news is good, but for now it means that the course is on sick "faithful. Just treat him (the patient) and treat him.
    1. +2
      19 August 2014 15: 06
      It is not equipment that is fighting, but soldiers. The T-72 crews from Hungary will be staffed by whom? Farmers and office plankton? If they know how to step on the gas, only in drift racing. And then, in the heat (soon in the frost), without grub and water from the cooler, pull the clutches with unwashed clutches under fire and shoot themselves. Do you think they can handle it? Shouting "Salo dropped" and zigging is a little different.
  42. +2
    19 August 2014 14: 53
    Well, men have ridiculed ...))))) laughing The junta is doing badly! The militia crumbled a bunch of equipment and how much they squeezed out (the tanks on the "Niva" were driven across the fields ..))))
  43. Solaris
    +4
    19 August 2014 14: 56
    We expect the appearance of such a phenomenon:
    "armored tractor"
  44. +5
    19 August 2014 14: 58
    Now the "Nikolaev freak" with reinforcing "armor" will come in handy.
  45. +1
    19 August 2014 15: 01
    And what is the problem actually? Let the Langlis with amers, but the Angles are changing. Fat on APCs.
  46. ded10041948
    +6
    19 August 2014 15: 02
    My mother, old lady! And THIS is still trying to yap something? The remaining two gates, like wings, are attached on the sides to a cash-in-transit vehicle and used as a "very low-altitude" armored attack aircraft! Specialists from Kashchenko, have you ever thought that as a group patient a whole understate would get to you? Where can you get so much chlorpromazine and haloperidol?
  47. +5
    19 August 2014 15: 04
    The latest development of Ukrainian engineers laughing
    1. Leonidych
      0
      19 August 2014 15: 25
      This is the development of either the Swedes or the Finns, but Ukram will do
  48. +2
    19 August 2014 15: 07
    In 1914, taxi drivers saved Paris by transferring reserves .. And who will save Kiev, will taxis remain by then?
  49. +5
    19 August 2014 15: 07
    Another option. Militiamen laugh with laughter.
    1. 0
      19 August 2014 16: 25
      Quote: Karasik
      Another option. Militiamen laugh with laughter.

      It’s not expensive, you can hand over scrap. Cheaper than wood.
  50. +3
    19 August 2014 15: 07
    It’s strange why so far they haven’t thought of armored trains?
    1. Cat
      +3
      19 August 2014 15: 20
      Quote: AYUJAK
      why so far have not thought of armored trains?

      Really! There are so many trams! And it’s worth a closer look at trolleybuses ..
    2. Leonidych
      +3
      19 August 2014 15: 29
      ALMOST IN THE TOPIC: the Americans confirmed the true purpose of the National Guard, namely its use against their own people, sending their National Guard against their people in Ferguson, so that the Ukrop National Guard has someone to take an example
      1. Cat
        0
        19 August 2014 15: 57
        Quote: Leonidych
        Ukrop national guards have someone to take an example

        Rather, the American National Guard must take an example from them - I don’t think that the Americans have enough conscience, for example, to take an MLRS battery and fly around Fergusson. They are the kids !!
        Although ... Geta gang?
  51. wanderer_032
    0
    19 August 2014 15: 10
    About "Khlopchik-1" the comment is the most objective, as a further promising development of the construction of armored fighting vehicles in Ukraine.
  52. 0
    19 August 2014 15: 11
    What is going on in their heads? As one movie character said, “What is it, there were people just like people, and suddenly everyone immediately became cretins.” Paradox.
  53. +1
    19 August 2014 15: 11
    I hope there will be no humanitarian aid from non-lethal weapons from NATO.
    “But tanks are not lethal weapons. They don’t fly.” Psakism.
  54. 0
    19 August 2014 15: 12
    Soon, troops and cargo will begin to be delivered by air not by transport aircraft, but by Tochka-U. laughing
  55. 0
    19 August 2014 15: 15
    Time is slowly putting everything in its place. Everything goes to the logical end of dill. How many more ukrov need to be ground for them to understand what kind of ass they are in. When the zombified realize what they have received, thanks to the Maidan they will be seized with horror and hysteria from the hopelessness for which they were zealously striving.
    You won’t feel sorry for them, no matter how much they squabble among themselves, sputtering with resentment, and then plaintively ask for help either from the EU or from Russia, looking with envy at the blossoming Crimea and the resurgent Novorossiya. Even having received this help, they will quietly hiss in the corners that Putin’s insidious plan has brought the country to the brink. No, they will not feel sorry for them.
  56. +2
    19 August 2014 15: 19
    The experience of Odessa in 1941 will definitely come in handy!

    The “Na fright” (NI-1) tank is an ersatz tank (armored tractor), produced during the defense of Odessa in 1941 and is an ordinary artillery tractor, sheathed in sheets of armor, with light small arms or cannon weapons installed. Similar vehicles were also produced by a number of other tractor factories in an attempt to somehow alleviate the shortage of tanks in this area.
  57. 0
    19 August 2014 15: 19
    If this continues, by spring the great “Ukrainians” will switch to the weapons that in ancient times captured the whole world wassat :bows and clubs
  58. +1
    19 August 2014 15: 33
    It’s good that such “ukrops” don’t have Topol complexes, otherwise they would sell a nuclear warhead with missile stages and use it as a horse-drawn transport...
  59. 0
    19 August 2014 15: 41
    Privatbank's armored cars should last for a long time, but it seems Benya kept them for himself - to maintain the defense of his patrimony, and the warrior began to take care of his own, it seems he suspects something!
  60. 0
    19 August 2014 15: 50
    The Americans at one time disposed of the M60 on the seabed, now they’re probably biting their elbows - they should send it, but there’s nothing)
    Infantry should be accustomed to stomping their feet and not riding on armor.
  61. 0
    19 August 2014 16: 10
    “even more exotic options for the so-called misuse of combat vehicles may soon appear.”
    Soon all children's bikes and scooters will be expropriated from stores for the needs of the Ukrainian Army!!!
  62. 0
    19 August 2014 16: 31
    Messages appeared on the Internet
    Fighter-bombers attacking civilian targets in eastern Ukraine fly with Ukrainian Air Force markings. Their flights have been traced to air bases in Romania, Moldova and Azerbaijan, where they undergo maintenance and replenish weapons. Some may be piloted by Poles or even Israelis.
  63. MSA
    MSA
    0
    19 August 2014 16: 33
    It's time to somehow stop this madness.
  64. +2
    19 August 2014 16: 56
    There is a very strong feeling that this is not a civil war, but a deliberate destruction of the people. But it may be that in the entire army there is not a SINGLE competent officer. They destroy civilians and themselves die in the thousands. This is somehow suspicious.
  65. kelevra
    0
    19 August 2014 17: 02
    Let the bicycles be mobilized!
  66. C2H5OH
    +1
    19 August 2014 17: 24
    Quote: South Ural
    Ukrovoyaki on bicycles and with a pitchfork will be at war) when it becomes very tight with equipment)

    ahahaha imagine...evening news release: today in the Donetsk region, a column of Ukrainian armored vehicles was defeated by the people's militia, according to official information, 9 to 10 bicycles were shot down, and according to unconfirmed reports, 1 roller skates were seriously damaged....the loss of rollers is Ukrainian the party categorically denies calling this monstrous disinformation aimed at undermining the morale of the Ukrainian army
  67. 0
    19 August 2014 17: 31
    In Odessa, during the Second World War, they made tanks from tractors, it was called Out of Fright, so I have experience
  68. 0
    19 August 2014 17: 58
    If you close car factories and ruin your industry, then soon carts with slave teams will be put into use
  69. 0
    19 August 2014 18: 18
    It is, of course...But the owners and kulak henchmen from the former Warsaw Pact will definitely throw in plenty of old light armored vehicles. And they will collect them from the old ones. They can’t burn it yet...
  70. +1
    19 August 2014 23: 01
    I heard Shaitan-arba, but dill-arba is new)
  71. special
    0
    20 August 2014 00: 33
    Give them their submarine and let them use it instead of a tank! bully
  72. 0
    20 August 2014 00: 36
    Soon these will end too)))
  73. +3
    20 August 2014 01: 30
    Latest information about the junta's losses:
    Igor Panarin
    The total losses of punitive forces in Donbass from May 2 to August 19, 2014 are 29 thousand 761 people, of which 17672 people (killed, wounded), 279 prisoners and 11810 deserters and missing persons. Today it became known about the monstrous losses of the 30th mechanized brigade (Novograd Volynsky, Zhytomyr region). Of the 4700 people, 83 people returned from the cauldron. The 80th airmobile regiment from Lviv also suffered heavy losses near Lugansk (300 killed), which for the first time led to large-scale blocking of streets in Lviv by relatives of military personnel.
    Destroyed equipment:
    -2 MIG-29 aircraft
    -1 unidentified brand aircraft - July 30
    - 2 aircraft AN-26
    -1 reconnaissance aircraft AN-30
    - 2 Aircraft - IL 76
    - 16 of Su-25 airplanes (+ 1 SU-25 captured on July 7)
    - 7 Su-24 aircraft
    - 6 drone
    - 20 attack helicopters ("Mi-24", "Mi-17" and "Mi-8")
    - 306 T-64 tanks
    - 7 T-72 tanks
    -19 tanks T-84-U "Oplot"
    - 2 tank "Bulat"
    - Hummers 5 (1 captured on August 8 with an American)
    - Jeep
    - 25 Gas-66
    - Gazelle
    - headquarters machine
    - truck crane
    - 1 ZIL 131
    -2 KRAZA
    - 58 Uralov
    - 69 KAMAZ
    - 4 UAZ 469
    - 5 SAU-Nona
    - 5 SAC 2C3 Acacia (1 captured on August 18)
    - 3 anti-aircraft guns 23-2
    - 20 installations MLRS GRAD
    - 11 installations MLRS Uragan (4 captured on August 15)
    - 45 D-30 howitzers
    - 28 122 mm mortars
    - 158 BMP
    - 125 BMD.
    - 299 BTR.

    https://vk.com/id163797967?w=wall163797967_24317%2Fall
    1. 0
      20 August 2014 01: 35
      Where did 19 strongholds come from if only 10 were produced?
  74. 0
    20 August 2014 16: 53
    good equipment is given only to those battalions whose sponsors are rich! and the rest don’t mind! laughing

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