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Losses forced the Ukrainian army to use Strela-1 missile systems as conventional armored vehicles.

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Ukrainian security forces fighting in Novorossia began to experience a shortage of light-armored vehicles due to heavy losses. In this regard, they began using vehicles that were not previously intended for this, in addition to various trucks lined with armor plates, for example, the Strela-1 air defense missile system and the Konkurs combat vehicles, Messenger of Mordovia.



The publication writes that after the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Eastern Europe, "Ukraine got many hundreds of armored personnel carriers, including modern at the beginning of the 90's BTR-80." However, businessmen in uniform began to "correct" the situation, annually selling abroad a large number of "unnecessary" armored vehicles. And with those that remained, removed parts and installed on another, going for export, equipment.

“It is therefore not surprising that after almost three months of hostilities, most of the armored personnel carriers in the zone of the so-called ATO have practically knocked out a resource. Many armored vehicles turned Donetsk militia into scrap metal ", - note the authors of the publication.

Now finding a replacement for the retired armored personnel carriers is becoming increasingly difficult. That forced Ukrainian military leaders to resort to "a variety of non-trivial actions."

So in one of the columns of the Ukrainian army, the Strela-1 air defense complex was seen, only without missiles. It turned out that the car was used as a normal "infantry delivery vehicle". According to military experts, the value of the former complex is not very high, and there is no way out for those who are seeking to conquer the Donbass.

"Herald" suggests that soon there may appear "even more exotic options for the so-called misuse of combat vehicles."
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  1. portoc65
    portoc65 19 August 2014 14: 21
    +26
    Soon, dill will be replaced by the dill from the lack of tanks ... the Ukrainian army is the main supplier of military equipment of New Russia ... now there are hurricanes and tulips ... tanks ... and then they started with hunting berdyanka ...
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      1. Southern Urals
        Southern Urals 19 August 2014 14: 27
        +9
        Ukrovoyaki on bicycles and with a pitchfork will be at war) when it becomes very tight with equipment)
        1. skeptic2999
          skeptic2999 19 August 2014 15: 18
          +5
          Europeans will help SOS Poland, Hungary, Romania. The failure of Germany and Finland is so far only symptoms of a changing position. And of course the USA and Canada. So with the armored vehicles and other weapons the junta will have what time will be in order.
          1. mamont5
            mamont5 19 August 2014 15: 23
            +1
            Quote: skeptik2999
            Europeans will help SOS Poland, Hungary, Romania. The failure of Germany and Finland is so far only symptoms of a changing position. And of course the USA and Canada. So with the armored vehicles and other weapons the junta will have what time will be in order.


            They can, of course, toss up old Soviet technology, like Hungary. But a few dozen pieces today will not solve the problems of ukrovoyak.
        2. beefrost
          beefrost 19 August 2014 17: 10
          0
          And Velosykhped pad will Ukraine?)) Todi zgodin!
    2. Момент
      Момент 19 August 2014 14: 24
      +21
      And when all the equipment will be handed over to the militia, then what will they fight? Interestingly, in Kiev there is a museum of the Second World War, and there are carts, Katyushas, ​​although, as they all plunder, they are just monuments.
      And what about the militia on the armored personnel carrier, and the national guard on carts.
      1. ispaniard
        ispaniard 19 August 2014 14: 30
        +39
        Concept car - Transport vehicle of the junta "Peremoga-1" with full complements of battalions "Dnipro-1,2,3", "Azov", Shakhtersk and "Kuev-1,2" goes to Donbass ...
        1. major071
          major071 19 August 2014 14: 32
          +40
          Somewhere in Ukraine, around September. The next stage of the ATO. Transfer of Ukrainian equipment:
          1. ispaniard
            ispaniard 19 August 2014 14: 38
            +1
            "Mad Max"?)
            1. major071
              major071 19 August 2014 15: 03
              +6
              He is the most, "Mad" right up to blue in the face! laughing
        2. ispaniard
          ispaniard 19 August 2014 14: 33
          +67
          Novelty UKRVPK light single armored personnel carrier - "Cotton-1" is being tested.
          1. beefrost
            beefrost 19 August 2014 17: 12
            +1
            What a tear !! ha-haha !!. Put a plus
          2. RUSS
            RUSS 19 August 2014 21: 49
            +1
            Quote: ispaniard
            Novelty UKRVPK light single armored personnel carrier - "Cotton-1" is being tested.



            Dynamic protection is impressive laughing
        3. APASUS
          APASUS 19 August 2014 19: 46
          +2
          Quote: ispaniard
          Concept car - Transport vehicle of the junta "Peremoga-1" with full complements of battalions "Dnipro-1,2,3", "Azov", Shakhtersk and "Kuev-1,2" goes to Donbass ...

          Azov battalion uses and nothing
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 19 August 2014 21: 51
            +2
            In Lugansk, at one of the enterprises, the militia began the industrial production of armored vehicles. And if Ukrainian enterprises and specialists of punitive battalions are mainly trying to book KAMAZ trucks, then the militias are betting on the Urals.

            And although there is almost no information about him, it is known that Ural-4320 was booked rather non-standard. The first thing that pays attention is the tightly wired protruding “nose”. It seemed that having deprived the engine of cooling, such a reservation would only do much harm. But it turned out that on top of the "nose" there is an air intake. At the same time, inclined armor reduces the risk of breakdown. The sides of the hood were also armored.

            Wired with side armor and gas tanks. But the cabin is booked quite unusual. In front of the windshield mounted armored screen at half height. Most likely, in calm conditions, the driver rides in the usual position, and squats during a fight. The doors are also covered with armor, and the windows are also equipped with loopholes.
    3. Fuse
      Fuse 19 August 2014 14: 33
      +16
      ATO fighters: We were sent to certain death
      1. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 19 August 2014 14: 52
        +5
        This lieutenant colonel told the journalist that 30 people were sent from the 4700th OMBR of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to carry out "ATO". personnel. 83 people returned to Novograd-Volynsky. of those that went to Donbass.
        That is, the loss of the brigade killed / wounded / etc. missing persons amounted to pr.4671 people. Based on this, it can be argued that only the main base and headquarters in the city of Novograd-Volynsky remained from the brigade.
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 19 August 2014 15: 38
          +5
          Quote: wanderer_032
          This lieutenant colonel told the journalist that 30 people were sent from the 4700th OMBR of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to carry out "ATO". personnel. 83 people returned to Novograd-Volynsky. of those that went to Donbass.
          That is, the loss of the brigade killed / wounded / etc. missing persons amounted to pr.4671 people. Based on this, it can be argued that only the main base and headquarters in the city of Novograd-Volynsky remained from the brigade.

          According to information received from Volodymyr Rogov, co-chairman of the Popular Front of Novorossiya, as of August 19, the total losses among the Ukrainian military amounted to 23 498 people. Among them killed and wounded (14 378 people), prisoners (158 people). About 9 thousand deserters. The last category raises the most questions: it may include not only military personnel who have switched to the side of New Russia, but also those who, for unknown reasons, were not included in the list of losses.Read fully here
      2. Leonidych
        Leonidych 19 August 2014 15: 00
        +1
        morning began in the village ....
      3. kay4yk
        kay4yk 19 August 2014 15: 37
        +7
        even if one of the screamers demanded the end of fratricide! this is outrageous. at least one would call Kiev a junta!
        1. aleks 62
          aleks 62 19 August 2014 16: 11
          +5
          ...... You’ll come from them .... They all complain that the armored men are mute, the ammunition is mute ..... Yes, and our media pick up when they cross into the Russian Federation, that they say they crossed the border because there is no water, there is no food , and most importantly, NO AMMUNITION .... That's it ... belay
        2. kostik1301
          kostik1301 19 August 2014 16: 32
          0
          What is left to say that ZOMBIUKROMAYDANUYT .......
        3. Redfox3k
          Redfox3k 19 August 2014 23: 32
          0
          yes yes ... I also noticed ... nobody ...
      4. 23 region
        23 region 19 August 2014 16: 11
        +1
        Quote: Fuse
        ATO fighters: We were sent to certain death
      5. Mig 31
        Mig 31 19 August 2014 16: 32
        0
        Humanly sorry for the mothers and wives of the dead guys. Each of us has children and the worst thing is to survive our children. Who needs this war ??? "Satan's Loot" is doing its job !!
    4. Koloradovatnik
      Koloradovatnik 19 August 2014 14: 34
      +1
      My heart feels, soon dill will be used as ordinary trucks chassis Katyusha, tk. ammunition for it will not be enough.
    5. Mahmut
      Mahmut 19 August 2014 14: 40
      +1
      The junta probably expects to throw hats on the last separatists. Because the last ports have already been laid by then.
    6. armageddon
      armageddon 19 August 2014 14: 50
      +1
      PPC !!! These scum soon as policemen during V.O.V. On carts will ride !!!
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 19 August 2014 15: 18
        +2
        And well done militias. Cleverly wring out the technique. Soon, Ukrainians and those already paid for preparing for export will be thrown into battle. And customers will not tolerate such a kidalov - the story with the Iraqi BTR-4 confirms.
    7. evgenii67
      evgenii67 19 August 2014 15: 22
      +1
      Quote: portoc65
      Soon, dill on the reactor from the lack of tanks will change.

      I’m presenting a picture, it means soldiers are going to Donetsk using the ChTZ, DT-75 and Kamatsu bulldozers with machine guns and grenade launchers on the cockpit — it’s kind of like tanks, and they will have armored personnel carriers and MTZ and UMZ tractors hung with metal sheets.
      1. Ptah
        Ptah 19 August 2014 22: 28
        +1
        This is on ground technology ...
        Have to fly like this?
    8. FunkschNNX
      FunkschNNX 19 August 2014 15: 32
      +1
      Quote: portoc65
      Soon dill on the reactor from the lack of tanks will change ...

      Yeah, they will transfer to donkeys, because the tractor needs to be refueled. Although there compassionate Europeans can throw something.
      1. kodxnumx
        kodxnumx 19 August 2014 16: 55
        0
        How dad Makhno will ride on carts! laughing
    9. gav6757
      gav6757 19 August 2014 17: 34
      +1
      I propose to transfer to carts!
      What the hell are goats ?!
    10. Koshak
      Koshak 19 August 2014 20: 04
      0
      Quote: portoc65
      Soon, dill will be replaced by the dill from the lack of tanks ... the Ukrainian army is the main supplier of military equipment of New Russia ... now there are hurricanes and tulips ... tanks ... and then they started with hunting berdyanka ...

      So they are already booking "loaves". Soon they will reach "constipation" hung with cast-iron pans.
    11. revnagan
      revnagan 19 August 2014 20: 20
      0
      I apologize for the impudent intrusion and for the link. Dear admins, do not erase, believe and check, you can laugh about it! wassat Miracle - "pepelats". He would still have "gravitsapu" - the price would not have been!
      http://shostka.info/news_shostka/na_sumwine_hotyat_delat_bronetehniku
      1. serezhasoldatow
        serezhasoldatow 19 August 2014 21: 24
        0
        This is something ... And x ... n knows him. EXACTLY MAIDED !!!!!!!!!!!!
      2. Aljavad
        Aljavad 20 August 2014 00: 28
        0
        Miracle - "pepelats"

        Prudently! Carries 10 pieces of "200s" and more "300s". A useful machine will
    12. muginov2015
      muginov2015 20 August 2014 07: 56
      0
      You can still pick up carts for museums.
  2. Giant thought
    Giant thought 19 August 2014 14: 21
    +11
    It’s like the use of BRDM, and there was a shortage of armored vehicles from ukrovoyak, bravo militias.
    1. smart Fox
      smart Fox 19 August 2014 14: 31
      +6
      It looks like the armored vehicles at ukrov end. It's good
  3. ispaniard
    ispaniard 19 August 2014 14: 22
    +7
    Hurry up, they will soon be getting to their zass ... e roadblocks are clinging like locust tanks and BUKs ...
    Ah hohlovoinstvo))))
    1. pv1005
      pv1005 19 August 2014 14: 24
      +4
      Let me ask which ones? Tanks also tend to run out.
  4. Edvagan
    Edvagan 19 August 2014 14: 22
    +4
    armored carts and carts
  5. ECT
    ECT 19 August 2014 14: 22
    +4
    Soon they will go in carts. They will trample the attack on carts.
    1. 23 region
      23 region 19 August 2014 16: 19
      +2
      Quote: ECT
      Soon they will go in carts. They will trample the attack on carts.

      Nothing new under the moon.
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  7. Bassoon
    Bassoon 19 August 2014 14: 23
    +7
    Soon they will adopt the armored Cossacks
    1. UI-Spb
      UI-Spb 19 August 2014 14: 56
      +2
      With this, too, a problem)) ZAZ close wink
    2. Tersky
      Tersky 19 August 2014 15: 02
      +5
      Quote: Fagot
      Soon they will adopt the armored Cossacks

      Yeah .... yes , and deliveries will be carried out something like this:
  8. g1v2
    g1v2 19 August 2014 14: 23
    +5
    Fuck, at the beginning of the year they were listed in the ranks and in storage of 1500 armored personnel carriers of various brands and 600 brdm2, which are what you need to be dill in order to tear all this out in six months.
    1. K-50
      K-50 19 August 2014 14: 45
      +6
      Quote: g1v2
      Fuck, at the beginning of the year they were listed in the ranks and in storage of 1500 armored personnel carriers of various brands and 600 brdm2, which are what you need to be dill in order to tear all this out in six months.

      Well, they were only listed. Nobody really counted them, and the paper will endure everything laughing
  9. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 19 August 2014 14: 24
    +3
    Not our people will ride a taxi soon ...
  10. alexandr-budarin1
    alexandr-budarin1 19 August 2014 14: 25
    +2
    When these fascists run out of missiles to the "points-M", they can tie carts to them and drive them towards the geyrop until the "Strelkovtsy" caught up ...
  11. Balamyt
    Balamyt 19 August 2014 14: 25
    +2
    Not on purpose......
    They have long been using pants for their intended purpose! They cower out of fear, and gather together!
  12. DartVerter
    DartVerter 19 August 2014 14: 25
    +2
    So it was counted. And what was in fact and which of them on the move is another question.
  13. Altona
    Altona 19 August 2014 14: 25
    +6
    And what? In Kharkov and Lviv already a considerable stock of equipment? Was everything perekolbusili on the Eastern Front? Did the collector kolomoyki also leave their place? )))
    1. King
      King 19 August 2014 14: 28
      +4
      her Kolomoisky Jew will not give up
      1. Leviton
        Leviton 19 August 2014 14: 38
        +1
        Why not give up? decommissioned will be sold as for new ... just the parashka doesn't want to be friends with him .... there were no offers what
    2. Tamparu
      Tamparu 19 August 2014 14: 50
      +2
      Quote: Altona

      And what? In Kharkov and Lviv already a considerable stock of equipment? Was everything perekolbusili on the Eastern Front? Did the collector kolomoyki also leave their place? )))


      In Kharkov, tanks are also called "g *** mna", forgive my French, but they are in this state .... At the tank repair plant there are 200 cars, "none" .... hi
  14. Good cat
    Good cat 19 August 2014 14: 27
    +6
    All that they have "in storage" is scrap metal.
  15. asar
    asar 19 August 2014 14: 27
    +5
    It pleases, if the word! Another thing is alarming - military equipment is coming from "small Europe" to help dill! Maybe a fake? Who knows, please clarify!
    How from Hungary - T-72 and SUSHKI ?! And from Poland ?!
  16. aleandr
    aleandr 19 August 2014 14: 27
    +1
    with errors, but the first one wrote.
  17. RusDV
    RusDV 19 August 2014 14: 28
    +7
    Losses forced the Ukrainian army to use Strela-1 missile systems as conventional armored vehicles.
    And everything will come in handy for Novorossia ...... with a good owner and a "machine gun" is not superfluous .... We will patch it up, re-equip it and will work in the specialty ... smile
  18. gandalf
    gandalf 19 August 2014 14: 30
    +8
    No wonder ... lose up to 10-15% per year wink
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 19 August 2014 18: 32
      +2
      Ukrainians once again set a world record for the prosirai good
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 19 August 2014 21: 58
      +1
      Quote: gandalf
      No wonder ... lose up to 10-15% per year


      They are also science fiction writers: as we can see in the picture, they have helicopters - black sharks, "F" flyers - something, and the infantry - American special forces.
  19. padded jacket
    padded jacket 19 August 2014 14: 30
    +11
    Here is another armored car made in Ukraine:
    1. IAlex
      IAlex 19 August 2014 14: 39
      +17
      This is slag, but is kung made armored for a look too? On such a member, only the Piglet should be taken to the slaughterhouse ...
      1. maxxdesign
        maxxdesign 19 August 2014 15: 19
        0
        this is a chicken coop)))
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 19 August 2014 15: 36
          +5
          Quote: maxxdesign
          this is a chicken coop)))

          Rather a cockroach! smile
    2. ispaniard
      ispaniard 19 August 2014 14: 44
      +5
      Wonderful are thy deeds ...
    3. Bassoon
      Bassoon 19 August 2014 14: 47
      +2
      It seems that the creator of this "miracle" has revisited Mad Max and other post-apocalyptic films)
      1. Aljavad
        Aljavad 20 August 2014 00: 38
        +1
        It seems that the creator of this "miracle" has revisited Mad Max and other post-apocalyptic films)

        ... and still convinced that this is a technique of the Future ... request
    4. chelovektapok
      chelovektapok 19 August 2014 14: 56
      +11
      I saw something like this somewhere ... I remembered! "Iron Kaput"! There were also Major, Drankel and Zhrankel. It was shown on TV together with the "Village of Fools".
      1. massad1
        massad1 19 August 2014 15: 37
        +2
        yes-yes, "SHMULKE !!! Call these two boobies!" smile
    5. maxxdesign
      maxxdesign 19 August 2014 15: 19
      0
      what is this dovecote))) are they going to fight in 1945? so in Berlin then the nets on our tanks did not save from the Faustpatron) and even more so they won’t save them from RPGs)
    6. pensioner
      pensioner 19 August 2014 15: 23
      0
      Quote: quilted jacket
      Here is another armored car made in Ukraine:

      It seemed to me, or in fact, reinforcement was also widely used in this sample? If so, then on the ruin of armored vehicles is experiencing a new period in its development - rebar ...
    7. Dezinto
      Dezinto 19 August 2014 15: 53
      +1

      Chains hung, transdek)) think this crap with chains will turn into a merkava ??? laughing
    8. Dezinto
      Dezinto 19 August 2014 15: 58
      0
      Of course, of course, the wheel will not blow apart the flaps from an RPG shot because the chains hang. !!

      lol
    9. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 19 August 2014 17: 05
      0
      Really a cattle truck, they hanged all sorts of crap on him and think that it will save them when fired.
    10. Horst78
      Horst78 19 August 2014 18: 35
      0
      Less "Death Race" should be watched (although a car from a truck will be steeper there)
    11. yushch
      yushch 19 August 2014 19: 17
      +2
      Oh, the meat from the cage is waving =)
    12. aleks700
      aleks700 20 August 2014 07: 05
      0
      Yes, this is a garage on wheels.
  20. Alexei.N
    Alexei.N 19 August 2014 14: 30
    +3
    dill will soon cross the great !!!
    1. asar
      asar 19 August 2014 15: 12
      0
      dill will soon cross the great !!!

      !!! For "protection" from "cumul" they will hang "armor" nets from the beds, I think there are many more of them in dill !!! laughing
  21. region46
    region46 19 August 2014 14: 31
    +2
    maybe they just don’t know why they are still needed?
  22. Tsak_day
    Tsak_day 19 August 2014 14: 31
    -24
    Belarus can give a couple of dozen SU-27SM3 to help, we have them extra
    1. asar
      asar 19 August 2014 15: 13
      +3
      Quote: Tsak_oden
      Belarus can give a couple of dozen SU-27SM3 to help, we have them extra

      To help someone, sorry?
      1. Tsak_day
        Tsak_day 19 August 2014 16: 21
        -12
        Brotherly Ukraine, of course. Terrorists have enough to help.
        1. Proud.
          Proud. 19 August 2014 17: 19
          +4
          Quote: Tsak_oden
          Brotherly Ukraine, of course. Terrorists have enough to help.

          I didn’t try to put on the brain, sanctified?
          1. Tsak_day
            Tsak_day 19 August 2014 18: 19
            -10
            When cotton wool instead of brains, it seems that everyone should have cotton wool. It `s naturally. To you to Goodwin.
            1. Proud.
              Proud. 19 August 2014 20: 39
              0
              Quote: Tsak_oden
              When cotton wool instead of brains, it seems that everyone should have cotton wool. It `s naturally. To you to Goodwin.

              Heh ... You’re glad. Not with reason, so with humor. By the way. Alaverdi. You have to Scarecrow, in training. He, with his pins, was more distinct than you. Come from here, little one.
        2. asar
          asar 19 August 2014 19: 18
          +3
          Oh well! And there are many of you in Belarus? So go brother to dill, loves such mezhlyashko!
    2. shuhartred
      shuhartred 19 August 2014 17: 12
      +2
      Quote: Tsak_oden
      Belarus can give a couple of dozen SU-27SM3 to help, we have them extra

      But how can the SU-27 help in the delivery and protection of infantry on the battlefield, can you tell? In addition, you won’t learn to fly this armored personnel carrier in a week, and they won’t do the weather. Not only that the junta gathered to help, but also write nonsense
      1. Tsak_day
        Tsak_day 19 August 2014 18: 17
        -6
        The Su-27SM (3) is capable of effectively solving attack tasks as a multi-functional fighter using high-precision air-to-surface weapons, including using satellite bombs. When acting on air targets, the Su-27SM (3) is almost 2 times more effective than its predecessor, the Su-27S, and when acting on ground targets, its effectiveness is more than 3 times higher.
        (Press Service of the Sukhoi Company)
        1. shuhartred
          shuhartred 19 August 2014 19: 07
          +3
          Quote: Tsak_oden
          The Su-27SM (3) is capable of effectively solving attack tasks as a multi-functional fighter using high-precision air-to-surface weapons, including using satellite bombs.

          And where is the Ukrainians that high-precision weapon, and even with satellite guidance?
          Quote: Tsak_oden
          When operating on air targets Su-27SM (3)

          By what? Shoot another Boeing?
          Quote: Tsak_oden
          and when operating on ground targets, its effectiveness is more than 3 times higher.

          But doesn’t it seem to you that bomber and attack aircraft, which ukrov already have, are much more effective at ground targets?
          Quote: Tsak_oden
          (Press Service of the Sukhoi Company)

          Thank you, I can read advertising too. But ... have you read the article at all? It is about the lack of armored vehicles, not aircraft. And they have no crews to fly on such a machine. Drying the infantry on the battlefield will not deliver, and in general, the benefits of it in a guerrilla war are very doubtful. Is that from a great height (so that they do not get an arrow) cities to iron, but there the artillery "copes", which is cheaper. And the plane also needs to be refueled with something. I repeat, do not write nonsense, your SU will not help ukram.
          1. Tsak_day
            Tsak_day 20 August 2014 09: 54
            0
            Quote: shuhartred
            It is a question of a lack of armored vehicles, rather than aircraft.
            So for now we can only help with fuel. Alien armored vehicles we have so far only present at the parade, while there are no superfluous.
    3. pensioner
      pensioner 19 August 2014 17: 23
      +4
      Quote: Tsak_oden
      Belarus can give a couple of dozen SU-27SM3 to help, we have them extra

      Surely it seems dear to me that just people like you are superfluous in Belarus. It’s time for you to help the fraternal people. Sign up for volunteers to Lyashko. You look at what you fit him ...
      1. Tsak_day
        Tsak_day 19 August 2014 18: 21
        -9
        It is not for you to decide who is superfluous in our country.
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 19 August 2014 18: 29
          +6
          Quote: Tsak_oden
          It is not for you to decide who is superfluous in our country.

          I don’t know, I don’t know ... My grandfather was very good at deciding who was superfluous in the country. True, he understood this as "in this world." He worked in the Cheka ...
          1. Tsak_day
            Tsak_day 20 August 2014 09: 57
            0
            So your grandfather was worse than a policeman. These buried in Kurapaty more than the Germans shot. It would be better to bashfully keep silent about such relatives.
        2. shuhartred
          shuhartred 19 August 2014 19: 10
          +8
          Quote: Tsak_oden
          It is not for you to decide who is superfluous in our country.

          And you are the Minister of Defense of the Republic of Belarus to decide that you have extra planes? Especially if they are so good?
          1. Tsak_day
            Tsak_day 20 August 2014 10: 01
            0
            Such questions are not what I, and even the Minister of Defense does not solve)
  23. enot73
    enot73 19 August 2014 14: 32
    +4
    You can now advise dill to stock up sandbags. Partly they can replace the armor, and it’s very convenient to fill the 200s with sand. am
  24. pvv113
    pvv113 19 August 2014 14: 32
    +14
    "Herald" suggests that soon there may appear "even more exotic options for the so-called misuse of combat vehicles."

    Soon we will see ZAZ-965 in military performance
    1. RusDV
      RusDV 19 August 2014 14: 47
      +6
      Quote: pvv113
      "Herald" suggests that soon there may appear "even more exotic options for the so-called misuse of combat vehicles."

      Soon we will see ZAZ-965 in military performance

      Outwardly - excellent condition .... If the photo is recent - her price tag is comparable to new modern models. To send such a hand to the front, my hand wouldn’t rise ....
    2. asar
      asar 19 August 2014 15: 16
      0
      Soon we will see ZAZ-965 in military performance

      And the "Cliff" sticks out over the "Zaz-965"! "Cheburashka with a" pullet "! That is another" spectacle "! laughing
      1. Gato
        Gato 19 August 2014 20: 13
        +1
        Cheburashka (or Ushasty) is a slightly different model of this great (despite its small size) cars. I understood the secret of its legendary cross-country ability as a child, when my grandfather and his friends and I went fishing with two machines - "constipation" and the 21st Volga. At night there was a heavy rain, the coast was blown up to the state of a swamp. Then in the morning 4 men took the "eared" one in their arms and carried him 100 m to the road. And went to get a tractor for the Volga
    3. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 19 August 2014 15: 42
      +2
      Quote: pvv113
      Soon we will see ZAZ-965 in military performance

      ... And now - "HUMP"! I said "HUMP"! (The meeting place cannot be changed) smile
    4. Spnsr
      Spnsr 19 August 2014 16: 41
      0
      Quote: pvv113
      "Herald" suggests that soon there may appear "even more exotic options for the so-called misuse of combat vehicles."

      Soon we will see ZAZ-965 in military performance

      no, we won’t see zaz, everything, the factory closed! Well, if only museum exhibits, but whether they lie they will go, everything is sold, only mock-ups
    5. Makarov
      Makarov 19 August 2014 17: 39
      +1
      we won’t see .. ZAZ closed ...
    6. Haye
      Haye 19 August 2014 23: 15
      0
      Soon we will see ZAZ-965 in military performance




      Something like this
      1. Haye
        Haye 19 August 2014 23: 39
        +1
        Sorry for the take
  25. Federal
    Federal 19 August 2014 14: 32
    +18
    In principle, many Ukrop warriors will enter here, like in an armored bus.
    1. Gato
      Gato 19 August 2014 14: 53
      +16
      Quote: Federal
      Basically here

      Too complicated technique. This is more familiar (PanzerBierWagen):
      1. Federal
        Federal 19 August 2014 15: 18
        +2
        Sergey agrees laughing only instead of beer, urine is necessary to pour pig.
        1. Gato
          Gato 19 August 2014 15: 37
          +6
          Quote: Federal
          instead of beer, I urinate piglet

          hi
          For this, Porosenko needs to be drunk a lot and plentifully. And now alcohol in Ukraine is very expensive, and water will soon be turned off.
          Therefore, the budget option:
          1. Federal
            Federal 19 August 2014 15: 45
            +1
            laughing good A good option, I support your proposal.
  26. Goha
    Goha 19 August 2014 14: 33
    +3
    Ukrainians are at war because they were taught by minke whales: to bomb, shoot from far away. But in close combat, if they climb, then krants!
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  28. IAlex
    IAlex 19 August 2014 14: 33
    +5
    And just like a small and very old BRDM-2 machine designed for reconnaissance, the more so even without a machine gun it will help ukrovoyaki - for me, it’s a mystery that it has very little space compared to the BTR-80, and indeed it is designed for completely different tasks, it the main advantage is the small size and speed, as a result of which the body consists of armor a little thicker than the foil and the rest is slag, well, you can see for the stew just right ... Insanity grows stronger.
  29. Federal
    Federal 19 August 2014 14: 34
    +5
    Glamor has not yet been canceled. can also use to move.
  30. Alexandr 2
    Alexandr 2 19 August 2014 14: 34
    +2
    Let Kolomoisky share his armored mers. Then, all the same, Novorossia will get it.
  31. mig31
    mig31 19 August 2014 14: 35
    +2
    There will still be roofing felts, agricultural machinery will also be used ....
  32. dzau
    dzau 19 August 2014 14: 40
    +4
    Are progressing. Switzerland has long had bicycle troops. It can be said that they are leading their aircraft to high European standards.

    Well, in which case, fraternal Latvia always has a rental tank.
    1. Gato
      Gato 19 August 2014 16: 27
      +3
      Quote: dzau
      bicycle troops

      Inspired laughing
  33. family tree
    family tree 19 August 2014 14: 42
    +6
    Dill must suffer! I'm talking about those who ruined industry in Ukraine. I remember exactly, in Ukraine she was, and in Ukraine, she suddenly died what
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 19 August 2014 15: 20
      +2
      Quote: perepilka
      I remember exactly, in Ukraine she was

      And what else. I remember too. In the 80s - 90s they cooperated with Ukrainian metallurgy. Mostly with GOKs. What a time it was! What a friendly local population! Especially female ... Eh ...
      Hi Vova! hi Like a son? Not all polar bears have been speechless by his driving style?
      1. family tree
        family tree 19 August 2014 17: 20
        +2
        Quote: retired
        Hi Vova!

        Hi, Jura! hi
        The son of "Ural" is twenty years old, the YaMZ-236 engine is now restoring, not before pokatushki so far, so there are no nervous breakdowns in the VedMedEs and the command staff. laughing
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 19 August 2014 17: 53
          +1
          Quote: perepilka
          so far, so that the nervous breakdowns of the Vedmedey and the command staff have not yet been observed

          But as I understand it, they try to stay away. In advance and just in case ... Hello again! hi
  34. Pridnestrovec
    Pridnestrovec 19 August 2014 14: 45
    +16
    So they also have super earnings armored vehicles, the so-called coffins!
    1. cosmos132
      cosmos132 19 August 2014 16: 21
      0
      Zaporozhets with a machine gun would be better.
  35. Gato
    Gato 19 August 2014 14: 45
    +8
    However, the businessmen in uniform began to "correct" the situation, annually selling abroad a large number of "unnecessary" armored vehicles.

    And not only abroad. Here is a screenshot of the street. Zhmerinsky from Yandex.Maps (2012). By the way, on the streets of Kiev there are a lot of messes with billboards and other rubbish. Mobilize soon ...
  36. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 19 August 2014 14: 46
    +13
    "censor" today pleased with the editorial from the editor-in-chief Butusov. It turns out that in the reserve of bloody zombies, the organizers can sometimes reason sanely (in some places). For example, that the situation in the LPR, DPR is close to a disaster for the punishers. The economy of the durcaina is squeezed out like a lemon. Losses are hidden from the pigs so that they do not stop jumping towards the ATO. More or less capable units and punishers, who were thirsty for blood and could do something to destroy the militias, were mostly knocked out. The third wave of mobilization replenishes ukrovoy mainly with cannon fodder at the age of old people and green youth who seek to escape from war and do not seek to fight. Militias receive replenishment and equipment with thousands (trained in 4 months) fighters and hundreds of units of equipment. Well, then, "we are going through the forest, we see a miracle." We need a fourth wave of mobilization for university students and older people. Naturally, all around Putin's enemies and hirelings - all senior officers from general to major are proposed to be replaced (I wonder who?). Replaced lustrate. Open recruiting points for "soldiers of fortune" around the world (I wonder what shishi, if everything is already plundered, he writes himself?). "Abroad will help them" (c) According to the pig tradition, everyone should come running and shed blood for the Durkain people. And they themselves are scary scarecrows in social networks will post while drinking.
  37. Pridnestrovec
    Pridnestrovec 19 August 2014 14: 46
    +8
    and when these coffins end, they will ride it!
    1. IAlex
      IAlex 19 August 2014 14: 53
      +2
      Two in one, at the same time a Nazi delivery vehicle and a crematorium on wheels working on the dead carcasses of the delivered Nazis ... Angrily, economically, universally ...
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 19 August 2014 15: 48
      +1
      Quote: Pridnestrovec
      and when these coffins end, they will ride it!

      What's this? Camp crematorium? what
      1. Dezinto
        Dezinto 19 August 2014 16: 09
        +5
        Unfortunately, crematoriums near ukrov are already in business. Traaandets !!.

        New warriors are gathered throughout Ukraine, and for battle for slaughter. A crematorium nearby stands ... waiting.

        That's terrible. The Americans opened a death factory in Ukraine, just as the fascists taught in the forties only now with new technologies! P.I.Indosia rejoices the Slavs kill the Slavs !!!
  38. Zubrminsk
    Zubrminsk 19 August 2014 14: 47
    +2
    DNR! The junta urgently needs a truce! Pliz)))))))))))))))))))
  39. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 19 August 2014 14: 47
    +3
    Yes, they have factories in three shifts that work to meet the needs of the army, maybe they decided to ride these cars for exotics, they even send their products for export, arming their allies with modern military equipment, maybe we are wasting nothing in vain at them, with coal in a fire there is still much, as the late Arkady Raikin said, the fire extinguished, although the smoke sometimes comes and if you press me in a dark place against a warm wall, you can still talk to me about something. equipment that was in service with our former worst friends. So the militias still have a lot of work to do.
  40. Karasik
    Karasik 19 August 2014 14: 48
    +9
    Pravoseki go to conquer the Donbass
  41. Matrosov
    Matrosov 19 August 2014 14: 49
    +4
    Oh good news, of course, just to completely knock out the junta's park, another month of INTENSE fighting is needed, do not forget that there is still a base repair, that something is being restored, and Eastern Europe will also deliver, so of course the news is good, but for now it means that the course is on sick "faithful. Just treat him (the patient) and treat him.
    1. chelovektapok
      chelovektapok 19 August 2014 15: 06
      +2
      It is not equipment that is fighting, but soldiers. The T-72 crews from Hungary will be staffed by whom? Farmers and office plankton? If they know how to step on the gas, only in drift racing. And then, in the heat (soon in the frost), without grub and water from the cooler, pull the clutches with unwashed clutches under fire and shoot themselves. Do you think they can handle it? Shouting "Salo dropped" and zigging is a little different.
  42. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 19 August 2014 14: 53
    +2
    Well, men have ridiculed ...))))) laughing The junta is doing badly! The militia crumbled a bunch of equipment and how much they squeezed out (the tanks on the "Niva" were driven across the fields ..))))
  43. Solaris
    Solaris 19 August 2014 14: 56
    +4
    We expect the appearance of such a phenomenon:
    "armored tractor"
  44. pensioner
    pensioner 19 August 2014 14: 58
    +5
    Now the "Nikolaev freak" with reinforcing "armor" will come in handy.
  45. Siberian
    Siberian 19 August 2014 15: 01
    +1
    And what is the problem actually? Let the Langlis with amers, but the Angles are changing. Fat on APCs.
  46. ded10041948
    ded10041948 19 August 2014 15: 02
    +6
    My mother, old lady! And THIS is still trying to yap something? The remaining two gates, like wings, are attached on the sides to a cash-in-transit vehicle and used as a "very low-altitude" armored attack aircraft! Specialists from Kashchenko, have you ever thought that as a group patient a whole understate would get to you? Where can you get so much chlorpromazine and haloperidol?
  47. GHOST29RUS
    GHOST29RUS 19 August 2014 15: 04
    +5
    The latest development of Ukrainian engineers laughing
    1. Leonidych
      Leonidych 19 August 2014 15: 25
      0
      This is the development of either the Swedes or the Finns, but Ukram will do
  48. parusnik
    parusnik 19 August 2014 15: 07
    +2
    In 1914, taxi drivers saved Paris by transferring reserves .. And who will save Kiev, will taxis remain by then?
  49. Karasik
    Karasik 19 August 2014 15: 07
    +5
    Another option. Militiamen laugh with laughter.
    1. 23 region
      23 region 19 August 2014 16: 25
      0
      Quote: Karasik
      Another option. Militiamen laugh with laughter.

      It’s not expensive, you can hand over scrap. Cheaper than wood.
  50. Ayujak
    Ayujak 19 August 2014 15: 07
    +3
    It’s strange why so far they haven’t thought of armored trains?
    1. Gato
      Gato 19 August 2014 15: 20
      +3
      Quote: AYUJAK
      why so far have not thought of armored trains?

      Really! There are so many trams! And it’s worth a closer look at trolleybuses ..
    2. Leonidych
      Leonidych 19 August 2014 15: 29
      +3
      ALMOST IN THE TOPIC: the Americans confirmed the true purpose of the National Guard, namely its use against their own people, sending their National Guard against their people in Ferguson, so that the Ukrop National Guard has someone to take an example
      1. Gato
        Gato 19 August 2014 15: 57
        0
        Quote: Leonidych
        Ukrop national guards have someone to take an example

        Rather, the American National Guard must take an example from them - I don’t think that the Americans have enough conscience, for example, to take an MLRS battery and fly around Fergusson. They are the kids !!
        Although ... Geta gang?