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When the descendants of the great ukrov envy Vatnik

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When the descendants of the great ukrov envy Vatnik


In 1996, I finished school in Ukraine, in the Zaporozhye region, a quite Russian-speaking village. Already then I was very interested history and other humanities. After reading the Ukrainian "scientists" (there were no others, and then I felt serious contempt for the works of Soviet leaders), I began to realize that I was ashamed of the dense, lapotny, always drunk and oppressive of all of Russia. Without knowing it, I began to look for a different identity. And I think I would have found it in Ukrainians, in this anti-Russianism, because I was touched by this wonderful singing language, hut-huts and stories about Zaporizhzhya Cossacks-heroes. You have no sivolaposti and drowsiness, but only a century-old craving for European values ​​and lifestyle (by the way, “winners from the rashka” for the sake of experiment can dump in the current Kiev or Dnepropetrovsk, where in the age-old Russian lands the Anti-Russian idea and identity temporarily won, and see how they have enough of those very European values).

I had time to be a pioneer, I remember the grandfather of the front-line soldier well, my parents are both Russian, and the intensity of ukropaganda on young brains in the middle of 90's and now are two big differences. Although I, a lover of history, still hooked on the edge, it’s good that I moved to Russia, but now, I suppose, I would like to do it in another southern cauldron with other Svidomo ...

In general, it is not clear why they started this bloody butt in Ukraine. Another 20 years, and Ukraine would cease to be Russian. Totally. Just a natural change of generations and brainwashing. There would not be in two decades the electorate for a kind of pro-Russian PR in the absence of sympathy for Russia. Even 10 years would be enough for the mood of people in Donetsk and Lugansk to be identical to the current Kiev, and the mother of Russian cities would turn into an evil stepmother like Lvov.

Then the DNI - 2024 would be limited to the territory of the kitchen of Pavel Gubarev associates, no more. Recall that during the time of the first Maidan, exactly 10 years ago, football fans of the Russian-speaking areas were sharply against the “Western threat”, they were not noticed in Bandera’s sympathies and did not gallop in the squares. How things have changed ... You know, after 10 years, there would be practically no one for the Communist Party to vote for, the Communists are mostly older people. It would not have been shameful and absolutely illegitimate to drive this faction out of BP, to prohibit its activities. The KPU faction, at best, would sit in a nursing home. It seems that the western curators of the “Project Ukraine” do not have these 10 years.

A year later, after the Maidan, the next presidential elections were to be held unzalezhnoy. What it cost the West to wait just a year, and then the new head of state would be legitimate on 100% - that in the eyes of compatriots, that in the world community (indecisive, always wavering, tongue-tied, Yanukovych had no chance against a single candidate of the pro-European opposition, and leading media). Looks like there was no year either ...

The West as a whole, and the USA in particular, did not even have one year to legally bring their 100% puppet to power in Kiev. World gendarme is being blown away, a parasite like that. Before he dies, he would like to do so many more cases (see my recent article “The Last Blow to the USA”). There is little time left for the States, so they are in a hurry, and if the chess player has the gunner hanging on the flag, then the time trouble is easy to get checkmate in one move. It seems that an unlucky overseas player at any time will grab a Colt, brushing the pieces on the floor, because the rate in this game is too high. One can only hope that his opponent will neutralize the threat with a wrestling technique and force him to finish the game according to the rules.

I am sure that the American strategists again miscalculated, as before the Hitler, Napoleonic and other "partners". (By the way, when Putin called his Western colleagues with this word, I heard some irony in this. Maybe a plan was worked out against Russia for “partner podlyana”, “partner trap”, like “unthinkable”, and our president would say “I know everything, guys, think of something else.”) I think there are few who expected such stubborn and heroic resistance of the New Russia to the fascists. It would seem that the unconditional support of the junta by the collective West with the implicit assistance of Moscow, some kind of regular army against spontaneous militias, local oligarchs with their giblets in European banks and, as it were, the legitimate power of Kiev against lovers of historical reconstructions ... It would seem that there is no New Russia not a chance, and soon pravoseki begin to terrorize our areas bordering Novorossia and Little Russia, our Crimea. But the militia keeps, keeps, and more and more clearly manifests itself, for what, for what goals and ideals both sides are fighting.

My friend, a refugee from the Donbass, when asked about her national identity, says: "I even feel a little ashamed of myself, but I am Ukrainian." And she is not alone in this awkwardness in front of her ancient Russian roots. I remember an interview with one of the militias, who also somehow did not feel at ease because of their nationality, but kind of fought against representatives of their own nation. Although on the other hand is full of ukrovoyak whose names end in -ov and -in. But Ukrainians are, apparently, a state of mind of the Russian Russophobia.

The process of de-Russification of the New Russia, the Ukraine and a little Galicia went irreversibly backwards. If it were not for the rivers of blood, it would even be ridiculous: the Americans, using their own influence and their own puppets, throw into the dump those billions and billions of dollars that they spent on the “project Ukraine”, and those years were undoubtedly brilliant and painstaking labor) evil overseas genius (let's give our enemy tribute and support the liberation movement of the native Indian population, Mexicans, blacks, Eskimos of Alaska: Russians are good students).

Ukrainians are slowly beginning to understand that they have done something wrong, plunged into something sticky, including in the blood of their compatriots. Very soon, a simple formula will start to reach all of them: Ukrainian = Bandera = fascist / anti-fascist = not Ukrainian = Russian. For whom are you, a resident of New Russia, Little Russia and even Galicia, you decide, and very soon.

After Odessa, Mariupol and the destruction of the cities of Donbass, posts and articles began to appear to quite Svidomo Ukrainians, in which incomprehension, disgust and horror from their ukrosoratniki manifested themselves more clearly. And most importantly - the understanding of the involvement and complicity in mass crimes. I read a long and confused article - almost an apology of one maydan of Odessa after the events in the House of Trade Unions, which can be replaced with one phrase: “I realized that we (the maydans) have more animals than people do.” And, you see, an intelligent man, he realizes that the power will soon change, and they may come to ask all sorts of questions: “I cooked kebabs in another district that day, and only found out about it the next day.”

I was wondering why, under Hitler, simple Germans did not oppose fascism. The answer is simple: having entered a former Jewish home, and on a full stomach, tasted bread from trophy Polish wheat, and laid Ukrainian sausages on top, washed down all this with requisitioned French wine, and watching Russian slaves plowing for you — Ostarbeiters, such things, like shame and conscience, they disappear somewhere, and they sincerely believed (or pretended: tastier and more comfortable) in all that nonsense that carried Goebbels' department. But when the funerals began to come en masse from the Eastern Front, and the bombs of the Allies began to pour on the cities instead of any goodies, then the Germans began to guess something ...

In our case, empty gas pipes in the winter and economic collapse will play the same role as the bombs on the heads of the Germans in 1944-45. We are not American-British barbarians, and not their ukroucheniki, we destroyed Novorossia, Little Russia, and maybe even Galicia to anything - we also need to restore it all later. By the way, mass funerals from the Eastern Front for these regions, and in our case, have not been canceled.

Of course, Ukrainian television should be lyustrirovat. Sometimes watch them news, talk show. You know, I understand that they are breaking up, but they lie very smoothly and plausibly. He laughed only when "the valiant Ukrainian soldiers from the southern boiler under heavy fire from the Russian territory retreated ... deep into Russia." And so, given the mass propaganda of recent years, it becomes quite clear why in general someone else is fighting of their own will on that side.

So, when the militia take the same Kiev with a massive air support of negative temperatures and with demoralizingly empty, long-turned off refrigerators from Kiev, in addition to capturing bridges, telegraphs, Maidans and crematoriums, you certainly need to take the telecentre. It was then that Kiselev's "News of the Week" on an empty stomach, with felt boots and a hundred times ridiculed quilted jackets would go well.

“Ukraine” as an anti-Russian and fascist project should be eliminated, and there is no one else to do besides us Russians. I remember the “wonderful” invented ukrolegendu about a certain Cossack Kharko, the founder of the city of Kharkov (the same Poles, the centuries-old junior curators of Ukraine, are not at all funny when ukropatriots draw on their maps half of Poland originally Ukrainian). To substantiate the subsequent capture of ukry by the Russian lands, Cossack Mosko, the founder of the city of the same name, can meanly be assigned to the Katsaps, since Ukrainian historians have already “proved” that the famous troublemaker Pugachev is a Zaporozhye Cossack Pugach, who fought with cursed Muscovites. So the state, based on the Bandera idea of ​​eternal war, the destruction of all foreigners, first of all Russians, should cease to exist, and first of all thanks to the Russians, including those from the former Ukrainians.
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  1. asar
    asar 20 August 2014 08: 49
    +76
    If not a fake, then great, "the ice is broken":
    Thorbjörn Jagland, chairman of the Nobel Peace Committee, said today that President Obama "really should consider" returning his Nobel Peace Medal immediately.
    Jagland, surrounded by four other committee members, said they had never asked for a peace prize to be returned before, "even from a damned war criminal like Kissinger," but "Guantanamo is still open."

    Afghanistan, the bombing of Libya. Bin Laden was killed there, and not taken to the dock.

    The committee awarded Obama the coveted prize in 2009 after he made a series of appearances in the early months of his presidency, when he convinced the Peace Prize committee that he was in favor of: “creating a new climate ... multilateral diplomacy ... emphasizing the role of the Organization United Nations ... dialogue and negotiation as tools for resolving international conflicts ... and a vision of a world free of nuclear weapons. " He said the committee members were "completely drunk" the day they voted, just as they did during the annual AQUAVIT tasting festival in Norway.

    The "totally stoned" members listened over and over to reruns of Obama's speech in Cairo, envisioning a glorious future: a black man leading America and the world into a new era of peace, hope and goodwill. "Within hours we were all like 18-year-old students again at the beautiful, sometimes sunny University of Bergen! Oh, how we cried with joy!"

    The Chairman said that Mr. Obama could send the medal back in a simple package by regular mail if this helps him overcome the embarrassment of public return.

    The White House declined to comment.



    A start?!
    Dill! Since they say this in the world, then maybe you, too, will "move your brains", on the subject - where are you going, dill ?! Before it's too late ?!
    1. Wels75
      Wels75 20 August 2014 08: 52
      +27
      New video with Igor Ivanovich Strelkov !!!!!
      1. Hyperboreas
        Hyperboreas 20 August 2014 09: 21
        +6
        A man vaguely reminiscent of Strelkov and a man vaguely reminiscent of Borodai !!!! And most importantly, both are in their everyday clothes. "Shooters" as usual in camouflage !!!!!!!! Nonsense, the installation does not immediately strike the eye, of course, but upon closer examination it is noticeable. That one that the other is more blurred than other people who are next to them
        1. Edvagan
          Edvagan 20 August 2014 10: 28
          +49
          Yes, it’s clear that they went to make fun of us, why comment seriously? Just a spit in the direction of the United States, a trifle, but nice))
          1. Gomel
            Gomel 20 August 2014 15: 46
            +1
            it meant that not all "video facts" and sources, especially Facebook and Twitter (not counting YouTube) can be trusted ...
        2. Mig 31
          Mig 31 20 August 2014 11: 27
          +7
          And you wanted to believe it? Of course "fake" but the meaning of these videos and photos on the Internet is completely different !!!!! hi
          1. edge
            edge 22 August 2014 05: 16
            0
            Brzezinski is in a stupor, again the impatience of the Jews has broken the implementation plan for the destruction of the Russian ethnic group, and they are clutching at the petty zapadlo, to at least annoy a little.
        3. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 20 August 2014 14: 48
          +9
          Ukrainians are, apparently, the state of mind of the Russian Russophobe (from the article)


          Everything is correct. I have long ago determined for myself that xoxol is not a nationality, it is a state of mind of a "Ukrainian" Russophobe, no matter who he is called by nationality: Russian, Little Russian, "Ukrainian" - although I think there is no such nationality.
          "Ukrainian" is something like "Russian", contrived for the sake of tolerance for nationalists.
          So, it is not worth taking offense at "xoxol" and excluding it from the VO dictionary. This is the state of all those who are amazed by Svidomism. Xoxlom can also be a purebred Russian by blood, which is confirmed in large numbers in the current "Ukrainian" confrontation.
        4. Aandrewsir
          Aandrewsir 20 August 2014 17: 04
          +5
          What are you, Hyperborea !? What nonsense is there? All right! Just not fully shown. In the full version, Strelkov pulled the trigger of his gun and hid it in his pocket, and Boroday went into the hall with a grenade launcher and hid it under the chairs in which the journalists are sitting.
        5. fedorovith
          fedorovith 21 August 2014 00: 22
          +1
          But I don’t understand where Putin combed in this ... sorry excuse
          1. African
            African 21 August 2014 18: 34
            +5
            And he is in the second part, in no other way. wassat It would be great if it were in real life. Pepper comes out, and then the GDP comes in: - What would be a long pause? Stanislavsky would have applauded for 15 years! Lepota.
        6. hrapon
          hrapon 21 August 2014 09: 02
          +5
          Quote: Hyperborea
          A man vaguely reminiscent of Strelkov and a man vaguely reminiscent of Borodai !!!! And most importantly, both are in their everyday clothes. "Shooters" as usual in camouflage !!!!!!!! Nonsense, the installation does not immediately strike the eye, of course, but upon closer examination it is noticeable. That one that the other is more blurred than other people who are next to them


          Guys, relax. This is humor. In this place you need to laugh.

          A good hint to Khuseinovich: "if you do not see" quilted jackets "in the White House, this does not mean that they are not there."

          A wonderful start for paranoia: "The Russians Are Coming!"
      2. Hyperboreas
        Hyperboreas 20 August 2014 09: 23
        -1
        Yes, and Beard like a light bulb shines on the general background !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        1. Wels75
          Wels75 20 August 2014 09: 46
          +32
          Yes, this is joking over the Amerikos !!! It’s clear that the installation! But what place did you choose !!! Where is your sense of humor?
          1. siberalt
            siberalt 20 August 2014 13: 09
            +14
            And what can Psaki say about this? She draws evidence from the Internet. laughing
            1. Alex20042004
              Alex20042004 21 August 2014 17: 09
              +4
              Psaki to help "Charter of the garrison and guard service":
              ... upon hearing the barking of the guard dog immediately and without distortion inform the guardhouse ...
              1. Alex20042004
                Alex20042004 21 August 2014 17: 39
                0
                Psaki-dog to help "Charter of the garrison and guard service":
                ... upon hearing the barking of the guard dog immediately and without distortion inform the guardhouse ...
          2. papas-57
            papas-57 21 August 2014 04: 27
            +1
            `` Yes, they are making fun of the Americans. '' We need to make a video of how Ukrainian paratroopers land in mattresses. That would be neighing over the face and Psaki's answers at the briefing.
        2. WKS
          WKS 20 August 2014 10: 20
          +9
          "Ukraine" as an anti-Russian and fascist project should be eliminated
          A very correct and timely thought. And for its implementation, it is necessary to neutralize all the carriers of this idea, and convince the fooled. When I inform my new acquaintances from Ukraine that they are not Ukrainians, but Russians, they first look at me carefully as if they were crazy. But as arguments and historical examples go, in their eyes the fog begins to dissipate little by little. But little by little.
          The treatment is complicated by the fact that throughout the entire period of Soviet power, the harmful and hostile idea of ​​Ukraine was intensely introduced by Soviet propaganda not only to the population of Ukraine, but to the whole world.
          1. Cadet787
            Cadet787 20 August 2014 12: 30
            +3
            Where did the "great ukrov" have their brains, their remnants swam with fat and shit, this muck is living out its last days.
          2. maos
            maos 22 August 2014 12: 21
            -3
            Soviet propaganda actually carried out the Russification of Ukraine - the prohibitions of the Ukrainian language, the imposition of the Russian language in cities and the destruction of the rural population during the Holodomor, the destruction of the Ukrainian intelligentsia, the settlement of territories by Russians and others. And also the massive relocation of Russians to Ukraine - my grandmother is such a resettlement from the Urals and there are many of them.
            So what arguments and historical examples you have, it is very interesting to listen to in the PM.
            1. Tanysh
              Tanysh 22 August 2014 14: 08
              0
              ... and also treacherously attached to it Donetsk, Lugansk, the hardest yoke in the form of the Crimea, etc.
              wink
        3. Maxsh
          Maxsh 20 August 2014 11: 15
          +3
          Hyperboreas, so no one hides that this is editing. This is all done "for neighing" over Svidomo. There are already echoes http://cs617120.vk.me/v617120988/17242/mX4iSNDMw08.jpg
          And an article on this subject http://topwar.ru/56440-internet-polzovateli-obnaruzhili-igorya-strelkova-v-soedi
          nennyh-shtatah.html
          And the program is very convenient for doing this - Adobe After Effects is called. Such videos prove that everyone is working on this principle and work. And this promise is first of all to those who watch these ukrosi.
      3. andj61
        andj61 20 August 2014 09: 25
        +3
        Again, Americans mock their own State Department, whose talking heads seriously refer to social networks as a real source of truthful information.
      4. Skif83
        Skif83 20 August 2014 17: 37
        -4
        Cheap installation! with the naked eye
        Can you imagine that Strelkov appeared in a white house in a lump?
        Bullshit !!!
      5. smolnuy
        smolnuy 20 August 2014 19: 45
        +5
        ha ha ha ha ha
      6. rodevaan
        rodevaan 21 August 2014 06: 57
        +9
        But Ukrainians are, apparently, the state of mind of the Russian Russophobe.

        - And you will not find a more terrible Russophobe anywhere in the world than the Russian himself, who suddenly decided to become Svidomo or accept the "gay-European" so-called "values", the Russian, who ceased to be Russian and turned into a mat, Ivan, there is no kinship remembering. Even Poles will not be as Russophobic as the Russians who have renounced their Russian roots. No wonder the atrocities of the Vlasovites were even worse than the atrocities of the SS. This is what my grandmother told me, who survived the occupation.
        1. Alekseev
          Alekseev 21 August 2014 22: 01
          +2
          Quote: rodevaan
          you are nowhere in the world and you will not find a more terrible Russophobe than the Russian himself, who suddenly decided to become Svidomo or accept the "gayropean" so-called "values"

          Yes. yes
          Therefore, the author of the article has a very precise definition: "Ukraine" as an anti-Russian and fascist project must be eliminated, and there is no one to do it except us, Russians. "
          And it was also clearly noticed that "the Germans began to guess about something ... when funerals began to come massively from the Eastern Front, and bombs began to fall on the cities instead of all kinds of sweets"
          Apparently Svidomo and not really have to go through it all.
        2. Grbear
          Grbear 22 August 2014 11: 58
          +1
          rodevaan-y
          No wonder the Vlasov’s atrocities were worse than even the atrocities of the SS


          Apparently, all Russians have a genetic understanding that the traitor of the homeland will not be forgiven for centuries. In Europe, it’s normal to serve another overlord. But having embarked on this path, they try to forget about it, whitewash themselves or destroy those who will remember.
      7. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 21 August 2014 20: 13
        +3
        Is it really that hard to find doubles? I had a case, I came on vacation to my homeland, that is, to my place of birth, and a song went off that half of the city greet me and call me "Kolya". Apparently the guy had a good soul, because the majority came up and said: Kolya, I borrowed from you, but now I can't. ”I even prepared a phrase on duty:“ You will give the money. ”But one stuck there and did not leave, talk and talk about his debt, I already began to understand that he still wants to borrow from me. But he will give it not to me, but to Kolya, if I give him money. I take out my passport from the back pocket of my jeans and say: "I'm not Kolya ! I'm Pavel! Look at my registration Murmansk. I'm not Kolya, you know? "He looks at me with a puzzled look for a minute and then in a whisper asks:" Kolya, have you made someone else's passport for yourself? "Here's a story ... it's all true. My friends even called Kolya's address, but I thought ... how will his mother have a heart attack from such a split? and did not go, but I never met Kolya.
    2. master 84
      master 84 20 August 2014 08: 53
      +1
      Already envious just shy
      1. Oleg Sobol
        Oleg Sobol 20 August 2014 09: 28
        +7
        It's time to rest, "deeply disrespected", even in his own country, citizen president!

        1. asar
          asar 20 August 2014 11: 01
          +2
          They kill in Ferguson, another African-American was shot in St. Louis - and "US President BH Obama continued his interrupted vacation"! What is it ?!
          1. Vitaly72
            Vitaly72 22 August 2014 01: 17
            0
            Oh really ? Respect for snowballs, the right way, comrades
        2. 23 region
          23 region 20 August 2014 12: 20
          +23
          I have already spoken about "Merit to the Fatherland"
          1. kay4yk
            kay4yk 20 August 2014 12: 35
            +5
            prettier psaki no creature!
          2. Bosk
            Bosk 20 August 2014 18: 41
            +1
            Without Psaki, life ... would be much more boring repeat
    3. MSA
      MSA 20 August 2014 08: 55
      +1
      Of course I would like to believe, but vague doubts torment me, since then a lot of things are kept silent and not discussed ...
    4. Giant thought
      Giant thought 20 August 2014 08: 56
      +7
      Of course, apparently, the Russian historical mission is to destroy fascism. Now you have to do it with Ukrainian fascism.
      1. Naum
        Naum 20 August 2014 12: 24
        +2
        As long as V (F) Ashington fascism exists, Russia will not see a respite! It was the moneybags (including the United States) that stood at the origins of all the fascist (Nazi) regimes in Europe - from Italy in the early 20th century to Ukraine at the beginning of the 21st. American "interests" are visible (like wolf ears from sheep's hide) wherever blood and tears are shed.
        Empire of World Evil - The United States must be destroyed!
      2. 23 region
        23 region 20 August 2014 12: 29
        +3
        Quote: Giant thought
        Of course, apparently, the Russian historical mission is to destroy fascism. Now you have to do it with Ukrainian fascism.

        HOW LONG IT WAS:
        Coulondre considered it unlikely that Hitler would carry out his plans to create a "Great Ukraine" through direct military intervention. “Surrounded by Hitler,” he wrote, “they are thinking of an operation that would repeat the operation in the Sudetenland on a wider scale: propaganda in Poland, Romania and the USSR for granting independence to Ukraine, and at the right moment diplomatic support and action from local volunteer detachments ". At the same time, according to Coulondre, "the creation of internal troubles in Soviet Ukraine" will be of decisive importance.

        The well-known basis for such predictions was the activities of the nationalist forces of the Ukrainian emigration, which considered themselves since 1919 in a state of war with Soviet Russia. Ukrainian nationalists had their own paramilitary organization, the OUN, which included two brigades of about two thousand people. The OUN assumed in the near future, in alliance with the Germans, to "liberate" Soviet Ukraine and had its own underground in the Ukrainian SSR, which was supposed to expand its activities in case of war.
        Year of crisis. T. I. C 145.148.
        Sudoplatov P.A. Intelligence and the Kremlin. S. 19, 26.
        Naive Ukrainians THINK THIS IS THEIR CHOICE. AND BEYOND THESE FOR ANCIENT EVERYONE DECIDED.
    5. Момент
      Момент 20 August 2014 08: 56
      +6
      I think that soon the time will come when ordinary Ukrainians themselves will tell themselves that this bloody coven is enough and then Russia will support and join the ranks to destroy fascism.
      1. Shveps
        Shveps 20 August 2014 09: 17
        +14
        Sister (Ukraine)

        Sister, what are you voting about? -
        Years have been deleted from life.
        Your distorted paradise
        Imaginary freedom overshadowed.

        In two remade worlds
        Fencing off each other,
        We forget ... On the shields -
        Other values. Affliction

        In this vein, you can’t avoid
        And the pain will affect millions.
        Sister, do you remember our mother? -
        The battalions trampled her ...

        They have long been in the ground
        Scattered all over Europe.
        And somewhere far away, behind her
        New "floods" are being prepared.

        Prepare bullets and coffins,
        Hate Pills
        Overseas pillars
        With inhuman cynicism.

        And we are in different languages
        (On the verge of extreme blasphemy)
        We do not understand who and how
        Pushing relatives to madness.

        author unknown
      2. Sirocco
        Sirocco 20 August 2014 10: 19
        +17
        Quote: Moment
        I think that soon the time will come when ordinary Ukrainians themselves will say to themselves that this bloody coven is enough

        On the account of Denis that you wrote, I personally doubt it. Yes, mothers of Ukrainian fascists began to show a lot, screaming about ending the war. BUT there is one thing but, pay attention to what they say, (just watch 2-3 videos) you sent our children to death, but they have nothing to fight, there are no tanks, helmets, no, armor, no, etc. They shoot like meat. Question. And if they provide all this, then what? will it be possible for them to lay down their own violence for Nenko Ukraine by killing their compatriots ???? That is the whole point of the Ukrainian population. And this applies not only to war, but also in the past years of my life in Ukraine, a similar train of thought was traced on some issues.
        1. melnik
          melnik 20 August 2014 11: 06
          0
          No, this is shown by their media. Miscellaneous yelling these women. Including about the killed people in the East. There now, too, you need to yell with caution
        2. yur58
          yur58 20 August 2014 11: 31
          +10
          In general, right, many are not against the war, not against the fact that the Donbas should be brought to its knees, but against the incompetent waging of the war, against sending their sons and husbands with poor equipment, poor weapons. And since many believe (propaganda has tried) that "quilted jackets" and "coloradas" live there. Russians, many Russian mercenaries and bandits, then we can conclude that they are not against the fact that their husbands and sons are fighting against Russia in general and against Russians in particular. These "mothers" and "wives" show no pity for the inhabitants of the destroyed cities and villages. What for? There are Russians, not Ukrainians. These "mothers" generally began to say something against the authorities when the third mobilization already affected wider sections of the population and when they began to understand that the mobilized person might not return at all, because despite all the tricks of the authorities, there are more and more coffins, disabled people and missing more. Indeed, in the beginning it was thought that the "quilted jackets" would be easily put in their place and forced to work as it was before, giving most of their earnings to the central and western regions. As a conclusion: a very large part of the population of the central and western regions of dill is still hostile to Russia. Although the process of realizing the truth has begun. This process will go much faster on cold and hungry winter days and nights.
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          2. rodevaan
            rodevaan 21 August 2014 13: 19
            +7
            Quote: yur58
            Although the process of comprehension of the truth has begun.


            - So after all, in 41, when all of Germany squealed "Heil!", The Fritzes, too, almost without exception, with very few exceptions, also wanted war, and wanted "Drang nach Osten!", And wanted to drive the Russian people into the forests, and themselves grab our vast lands. They willingly flooded the Russians with their entire gangster gerbrod into the lands, thinking to get a fat land, a plot with a mansion, to plunder someone else's property on the way, and to force a couple of Russian workers to serve his "super-under-majesty".
            However, when all this horde of bandits and murderers was handed over by 34, crumbled by ILs and "Katyushas", it began to gradually come to the "super-and-d and to v" that the deployed club of popular anger and soon will fly over. And then the sobering of the plague heads began en masse.
            And every time it was and will be. For history has 2 axioms - it always repeats itself and does not teach anything.
          3. maos
            maos 22 August 2014 11: 49
            -6
            for yur58
            in general, Russian-speaking live well in central Ukraine.
            and the war is not against the Russians, but those who violate the sovereignty of the state and mend robbery on its territory, and it does not matter who it is.
            You also did it yourself more than once, Russia constantly conducts ATO (Dagestan example) and it’s tough. And we chewed on our nozzles and negotiated on which the mercenaries put a bolt. So you don’t need to be a hypocrite.

            Quote: yur58
            giving most of the earnings to the central and western regions

            this is generally funny, a fairy tale Donbass feeds Ukraine is no longer in vogue.
            Coal subsidies account for approximately 30% of all state budget revenues in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions. But even if they are not taken into account, these regions remain deeply subsidized.
            Source: http://delo.ua/ukraine/kakie-regiony-kormjat-ukrainu-224869/
            because Donbass has long been in the ass and goes to work in the Russian Federation, and the Ukrainian-Phobic mood is great there.
        3. lex loci
          lex loci 20 August 2014 12: 03
          0
          Well, this is a standard, anecdotal view, when the scoops at a meeting are told that they will be hanged, then the question is: "Do you need to bring soap and rope with you?"
          So on the Ruin, the question is not that they are being driven to slaughter against their own people, but that they are being killed like rams, and they want to be killed according to European standards.
          And in general, about the fact that they are being killed (and they think that only they have the right) - they have a naively stupid view "but what are we for?"
          1. gunya
            gunya 20 August 2014 20: 31
            +1
            lex + locis, what does the term "scoops" mean? In my opinion, it is similar to "quilted jackets and coloradas", so please be more careful.
            Do not forget that "scoops and quilted jackets" saved you, and at the same time the world from German fascism (more precisely, National Socialism).
            What happens in Ukraine after the time of the creation of the USSR, when it was decided to create union republics and not autonomous ones. This question is long and complex and should go on as a separate topic.
            And for the "scoops" you deserve a minus.
            1. rodevaan
              rodevaan 22 August 2014 07: 57
              0
              - Say "thank you" to grandfather Lenin for the establishment of "republics" and other national formations. Here is ter maemo sho maemo, each demarcated yard now squeals about non-profit.
              And if they were a single country, no one would blather, and there wouldn’t be a war in the Donbas now, but in Bandera the junta in Kiev.
      3. Sharikov
        Sharikov 20 August 2014 10: 35
        +4
        I doubt it, because for almost a quarter of a century, since the time of the late USSR, we had to play the role of a kind of lightning rod, to which a lot of things were written off. He serves faithfully and now - for the new Ukrainian government. After all, if it were not for all these "she", "separatists", "vatniks" and "Colorado" - they would still have to be invented by Ukrainian politicians. Otherwise they would have to answer the hungry and embittered population to many uncomfortable and unpleasant questions. So, this is our sorrowful mission in the politics of modern Ukraine - to be guilty on the part of all the current internal problems of this failed country.
      4. Dastan
        Dastan 20 August 2014 11: 39
        +9
        Quote: Moment
        I think that soon the time will come when ordinary Ukrainians themselves will tell themselves that this bloody coven is enough and then Russia will support and join the ranks to destroy fascism.

        Excuse me, but it seems to me that you cannot hope for that. For Ukrainians, Russia is a real enemy. An enemy who fights on your territory (Donbass), so as not to fight on his own (Crimea). He fights with the help of professional mercenaries and specialists. Therefore, ukrarmia cannot defeat them. When you are told about it from all angles, monitors, speakers, you will believe it anyway. Believe it as a sincere and holy truth. And with the arrival of a small northern animal, you will become even more bitter and hate your enemy. Because it is this enemy that prevents you from living well. And when arguing that "some oligarchs have been exchanged for others," "sewed on soap," "you are killing your people," "on a leash, and the United States" - they answer that "first we will deal with the holes, and then with these."
        I just now expressed the point of view of a certain number of Ukrainians.
        1. gunya
          gunya 20 August 2014 20: 38
          0
          "I just now expressed the point of view of a certain number of Ukrainians."
          And what was the origin of this point? Apparently the base was laid long ago.
      5. Mama_Cholli
        Mama_Cholli 20 August 2014 12: 02
        +1
        Quote: Moment
        I think that soon the time will come when ordinary Ukrainians themselves will tell themselves that this bloody coven is enough and then Russia will support and join the ranks to destroy fascism.

        ... "ordinary Ukrainians"? No, they are not at all, not at all simple ... just cookies tend to end.
    6. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 20 August 2014 09: 00
      +5
      Ukrainians slowly they begin to understand that they did something wrong, got into something sticky, including the blood of their compatriots. Very soon, a simple formula will begin to reach them all: Ukrainian = Bandera = fascist / anti-fascist = not Ukrainian = Russian.


      I would like this process to go a little faster ... civilians are dying every hour.
    7. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 20 August 2014 09: 02
      +6
      The normal beginning will be when pigs, eggs, a fighting homosexual man, curly-haired man and other abomination are hung on the so-called Independence Square. Only when all this abomination will twitch in loops actively wrapping their underpants and throwing out their tongues can we talk about the beginning of the process.
      1. Andrey from Tver
        Andrey from Tver 20 August 2014 09: 48
        +13
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        piglets will be hanged
      2. ermolai
        ermolai 21 August 2014 20: 24
        0
        I would give money for very good strings with soap, and I made beautiful stools, I would manually polish them, paint them with varnish.
    8. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 20 August 2014 09: 09
      +4
      It would be very sincere, but I doubt that Obama is capable of ACTION.
      I wonder how the Yankees will react to the execution of their journalist by ISIS militants ??? Relatives confirmed his death.
      1. TiRex
        TiRex 20 August 2014 19: 52
        0
        they will not react in any way, they will bring maximum condolences ...
    9. Nikolav
      Nikolav 20 August 2014 10: 23
      +1
      This is a stuffing. I searched on the Internet, yesterday this news first appeared on the site
      Stock in focus
      12: 17 yesterday
      The feeling that the news was written by a stoned correspondent.
    10. Момент
      Момент 20 August 2014 10: 26
      +1
      Interestingly, and the prize will return?
      1. papik09
        papik09 22 August 2014 08: 31
        0
        Quote: Moment
        Interestingly, and the prize will return?

        Yeah, wait, Schaub returned - he is UNLIMITED !!! If only I would return the medal by mail (simple) and it would be good. But, probably, he won’t return the medal either, because HE IS UNPRESSED (!) And he likes the brilliant. Why return?
    11. patriot-rf
      patriot-rf 20 August 2014 13: 28
      +1
      I think it's late
    12. insafufa
      insafufa 21 August 2014 09: 10
      0
      It would be nice if he still returned the prize am
    13. Zhekson
      Zhekson 21 August 2014 13: 07
      +2
      I bought a pie yesterday. the seller praising him says: ..- with pepper, with onions, with dill ...- we looked at each other and without saying a word began to gaggle at the top of our lungs.
    14. Suhow
      Suhow 22 August 2014 02: 57
      0
      Svidomi practically do not climb such sites, they are quickly minus. Although it’s interesting to read the sensible brow, she’s already sickened without any agitation.
      1. maos
        maos 22 August 2014 12: 30
        -2
        why come to you - where all the posts and articles are simply saturated with Ukrainophobia and hostility.
        1. comprochikos
          comprochikos 22 August 2014 15: 22
          0
          Themselves are to blame for this. There has never been any Ukrainophobia. It appeared only a few months ago, when the word fascism and Ukraine became synonymous. And we are not against the Ukrainians, we are against the "Ukrainians".
    15. Antoshka
      Antoshka 22 August 2014 14: 53
      0
      Is it really done? The link would be given for reliability ...
    16. SeAl2014
      SeAl2014 23 August 2014 06: 08
      0
      Well written by a man who grew up on UkrAin. Understands.
      Particularly touched:
      "Valiant Ukrainian soldiers from the southern boiler, under heavy fire from Russian territory, retreated ... deep into Russia."

      Now I know from life one, so to speak "hesitant".
      Boy and read Ukraine pity and ass in Russia is warm.
  2. gandalf
    gandalf 20 August 2014 08: 53
    +3
    When the descendants of the great ukrov envy Vatnik
    If this is a question, then:
    soon ... very soon - not even six months will pass. wink
  3. USSR 1971
    USSR 1971 20 August 2014 08: 53
    +8
    When will envy? Yes, in the winter.
    And Ukraine 2014 is in no way comparable to Germany 40's. There was a cunning and powerful enemy, and here an unemployed neighbor who smoked a cigarette, smacked into a sect, smashed his own house and suicidal.
  4. Chiropractor
    Chiropractor 20 August 2014 08: 54
    +5
    mmmm .... from the title ... so when?
    I don’t put a minus, but there is no analytics, there is no opinion, so, chewing gum ...
    1. Underwood
      Underwood 20 August 2014 09: 11
      -2
      Quote: Kostoprav
      I don’t put a minus, but there is no analytics, there is no opinion, so, chewing gum ...

      I agree.
      Quote: Kostoprav
      so chewing gum ...

      already repeatedly chewed by someone.
  5. andrei332809
    andrei332809 20 August 2014 08: 55
    +21
    I have a pair of quilted jackets in my garage. old, old. in some places, in places in cement, in places without buttons ... I think in October to auction dill winked
  6. Veteran of the Red Army
    Veteran of the Red Army 20 August 2014 08: 57
    +49
    Another 20 years, and Ukraine would cease to be Russian. Absolutely. Just a natural change of generations and brainwashing.


    20 years? The truth about Russia, according to Svidomo, is more convincing:

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/591/wjhd755.jpg
    1. Wels75
      Wels75 20 August 2014 09: 04
      +38
      What a wise grandmother !!! Soviet hardening is felt !!! Respect soldier
      1. Mareman Vasilich
        Mareman Vasilich 20 August 2014 09: 13
        +7
        Not just wise, but also right and true to her principles grandmother.
        1. tolyasik0577
          tolyasik0577 20 August 2014 17: 01
          +4
          My grandmother just lived a life and knows who Bender is and what fascism is.
          By the way, my father survived the occupation. himself from the Chernihiv region. He is very worried about what is happening at home and says Bender is just animals. For neither children nor old women are sparing. A couple of times he was driven to be shot by the Nazis and partisans helped out a couple of times. Thus, the partisans who were betrayed by some of the local sou ..... to, now, I hope, there is a monument in the city of Ladon, Chernihiv region. Father's aunt, native-Shevchenko Galina Prokopyevna. I am proud that my roots give me the right to be proud that they were fighters for a free Ukraine. True freedom fighters, and not only Ukraine.
          1. zeleznijdorojnik
            zeleznijdorojnik 21 August 2014 20: 18
            0
            Land? Himself also from Chernigov?
        2. antipendos
          antipendos 20 August 2014 21: 56
          +1
          Yes, my grandmother has already experienced all this for herself, and not according to her will at the beginning of her life, and again the same thing at the end. WHAT IS GRANDMOTHER?
      2. Mama_Cholli
        Mama_Cholli 20 August 2014 12: 09
        +1
        Quote: Veles75
        What a wise grandmother !!! Soviet hardening is felt !!! Respect soldier

        Not wise, but smarter ... At first, she also cooked borsch. Enlightenment comes in different ways.
    2. Aydar
      Aydar 20 August 2014 09: 34
      +8
      Grandma helped soldiers cook borscht until she was paid a pension - as the soldiers stopped, they became murderers and Bandera. So the granddaughter is worth a grandmother.
      1. Mama_Cholli
        Mama_Cholli 20 August 2014 12: 10
        +2
        Quote: Aydar
        Grandma helped soldiers cook borscht until she was paid a pension - as the soldiers stopped, they became murderers and Bandera. So the granddaughter is worth a grandmother.

        I agree completely. I did not see your post when I read in turn, otherwise I would not write about it at the top.
    3. nfoma80
      nfoma80 20 August 2014 10: 02
      +2
      Here you can immediately see what a joyful and smart generation in Ukraine has grown up now! Evil children right Hitler youth of some kind. Ukraine, especially for those under the age of 35, is no longer Russian, and for them Russian is the enemy. Enemy number 1.
      1. Moore
        Moore 20 August 2014 10: 43
        +6
        Yes, now the natural Hitler Youth along with older brothers in the SS / Right Sector.
        But where did all these German boys and girls with burning hatred and contempt for the "Untermensch" eyes and with swastikas on their sleeves go?
        Did you cut everyone out? Not at all.
        In the beginning there were just funerals for dads and brothers. Then bombs on the heads of the allies. Then "Untermenshi" not on plywood, but on the best tanks. And over all Negro GIs who gave my mother for a pair of stockings and a tin of corned beef. As a result, the kids have become decent burghers, who are sore from the word "fascism" ...
        So these fools and fools will have to go through Purgatory. No, not bombs and evil m. Teeth on the T-90, God forbid. Empty gas pipe, hunger and cold. Well, of course, the funeral - no one canceled them.
      2. Buran
        Buran 20 August 2014 11: 22
        +18
        Who brought up how ...
        1. OlegLex
          OlegLex 22 August 2014 15: 46
          +1
          I like it
      3. maos
        maos 22 August 2014 12: 09
        -2
        it doesn’t even reach you — that it’s not a Russian enemy — but the enemy who attacked your country.
        1. Tanysh
          Tanysh 22 August 2014 14: 25
          +1
          you yourself mined and smashed your country to smithereens by banning the Russian language and equating its native speakers to non-essentials, and yourself to the titular nation
    4. Edvagan
      Edvagan 20 August 2014 10: 30
      +2
      Grandmother is smarter than young women
      1. Bryanskiy_Volk
        Bryanskiy_Volk 21 August 2014 13: 03
        +2
        However, she was raising a granddaughter what
    5. Alex20042004
      Alex20042004 21 August 2014 17: 34
      +1
      Grandmother experienced all the "delights" of life on her own skin. It is bad and sad that she did not bring up her granddaughter (including her children).
    6. Grbear
      Grbear 22 August 2014 12: 24
      +1
      Veteran of the Red Army 20 August 2014 08: 57
      Another 20 years, and Ukraine would cease to be Russian. Absolutely. Just a natural change of generations and brainwashing.


      20 years? The truth about Russia, according to Svidomo, is more convincing:


      The civil war is just beginning. Linguistic split - the visible part of the iceberg. There are several more fault lines: fathers and grandfathers, fathers and children, the west - the center, the Soviet education - ukroobr, who feeds whom, the battle of the oligarchs among themselves and with the people.

      And all this against the background of impoverishment and the search for the guilty. Breaking - not building. And it will take half a century to build, and there’s another question: For whom to build? Again for the oligarchs? Do I need it ?. Raise, even federal and pro-Russian, Ukraine will be harder than after the Second World War, and I don’t want at my expense.hi
  7. Performance
    Performance 20 August 2014 08: 58
    +3
    "Ukraine" as an anti-Russian and fascist project should be eliminated.
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 20 August 2014 10: 15
      +3
      Carthage must be destroyed
    2. Naum
      Naum 20 August 2014 12: 37
      +4
      "Ukraine" was originally an Austro-Hungarian project, which was later worked on and creatively implemented by the Bolsheviks, led by the provocateur Kartavy, during the division of the Russian Empire into artificial "union republics." Later, Nazi Germany made its own adjustments to the "Ukraine" project, and the last "strokes" were made by the United States and Geyropa. And it turned out as a result a gingerbread Monster of rare obscenity and viciousness. He became our neighbor and we, the Russians, have to do something with this Beast. The simplest thing is to help him die sooner without trying to tame him. Evil cannot be tamed!
      But let him jump before death to keep warm!
      1. maos
        maos 22 August 2014 12: 27
        -2
        We have been your neighbors for a long time, peacefully and quietly lived until the beast (RF) came to visit us.
        Chechens were also enemies to you and the Georgians? All the same, the Chechens have been tamed for so many years. Now Kadyrov (the killer of the Russians is your hero), keep it up good
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 20 August 2014 09: 00
    +3
    "Ukraine" as an anti-Russian and fascist project should be eliminated
    To the dust ..
  9. raketchik
    raketchik 20 August 2014 09: 03
    +4
    Quote: Veles75
    New video with Igor Ivanovich Strelkov !!!!!

    Ha ha !!! Bullshit but know how to do !!!
    1. andj61
      andj61 20 August 2014 09: 28
      +2
      Quote: raketchik
      Quote: Veles75
      New video with Igor Ivanovich Strelkov !!!!!

      Ha ha !!! Bullshit but know how to do !!!

      This is banter. And joking over the State Department!
      1. Spnsr
        Spnsr 20 August 2014 17: 34
        0
        Quote: andj61
        Quote: raketchik
        Quote: Veles75
        New video with Igor Ivanovich Strelkov !!!!!

        Ha ha !!! Bullshit but know how to do !!!

        This is banter. And joking over the State Department!

        I almost slid under the table! )))))))))))))))))
    2. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 20 August 2014 09: 46
      +4
      No, it's not them. The real ones would be unloaded and hung with Kalash (AK and PKM), RPGs and at least one "Strela". Again, there are no caps with earflaps, and the neck of the cocked bytylka is not visible because of the bosom.
      1. Spnsr
        Spnsr 20 August 2014 17: 36
        +3
        Quote: Black Colonel
        No, it's not them. The real ones would be unloaded and hung with Kalash (AK and PKM), RPGs and at least one "Strela". Again, there are no caps with earflaps, and the neck of the cocked bytylka is not visible because of the bosom.

        a bear, there must be a bear, and a balalaika ...
        and so, these are doubles ...))))))))))))))
        1. Vitaly72
          Vitaly72 22 August 2014 01: 29
          0
          moreover, the bear is drunk and in a vest
  10. Veteran of the Red Army
    Veteran of the Red Army 20 August 2014 09: 03
    +16

    "Ukraine" as an anti-Russian and fascist project must be eliminated, and besides us Russians there is no one to do it.

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/969/yzpm869.jpg
    1. Aleksejs Novass
      Aleksejs Novass 21 August 2014 18: 41
      +6
      More suitable for the last picture! soldier
  11. samuil60
    samuil60 20 August 2014 09: 09
    +5
    It is written well and with feeling. Only here quick insights will not work. Everything went too far. Cleaning the minds is a much longer process than polluting them. Moreover, when someone opened his mouth wide to someone else's loaf, and he was hit on his snot - anger and resentment of this gnaws for a long time. So, we, too, will have to rake up all this manure for a long time, although quite different ones have piled it.
  12. waisson
    waisson 20 August 2014 09: 11
    +17
    ---------------- hi
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 20 August 2014 10: 17
      +2
      Every nation has the government it deserves
  13. Anton-sed
    Anton-sed 20 August 2014 09: 12
    +16
    Of course, the Khokhlov foul brain, but to justify such a lack of will only propaganda, it is impossible!
    I personally do not feel sorry for the wives, the mothers, who are waiting for their ukro-military home and the soldiers themselves too. And I would not let a single military man to his border! Before my eyes there is a coffin with a 9-month-old boy and crying parents and there is no excuse for these soldiers!
  14. svskor80
    svskor80 20 August 2014 09: 14
    +1
    In general, it is not clear why they started this bloody storm in Ukraine. Another 20 years, and Ukraine would cease to be Russian.

    In general, the article is a plus. It only seems to me that economic development (more precisely, a fall for Ukraine) in comparison with Russia, the further the more the population would be encouraged to think, we are brothers with the Russians. Maybe also because of this, Western mentors forced destructive processes in Ukraine in the hope of finally breaking off a piece of the Russian World.
    1. yehat
      yehat 21 August 2014 10: 45
      +3
      everything is much simpler. due to agreements with Yanukovych, Russia became the main creditor of Ukraine, received significant economic influence, a number of preferences and did not give Sevastopol. They tried to break this situation abruptly (maidan), but failed. The influence of the Russian Federation in the end, only increased. Although the price is daunting.
  15. muhomor
    muhomor 20 August 2014 09: 19
    0
    I think that the Svidomites will not "see clearly" soon. To do this, it is necessary to turn the entire media machine 180 degrees and broadcast with the opposite sign until a new generation appears.
  16. mamont5
    mamont5 20 August 2014 09: 21
    +2
    "In general, it is not clear why they started this bloody storm in Ukraine. Another 20 years, and Ukraine would cease to be Russian. Absolutely. Just a natural change of generations and brainwashing."

    Yes that's right. It would be so. But ... the Americans and the EU hurried and lost.
  17. Walk
    Walk 20 August 2014 09: 22
    0
    I think it's still a fake. There is a lot of sarcasm in the words about "tears of joy".
  18. victorsh
    victorsh 20 August 2014 09: 27
    0
    But are Ukrainians Jews? Yesterday, in the car, he listened to Solovyov. The first documentary evidence about Kiev was written in Hebrew by the Khazars (who founded it). Is it interesting in Kiev textbooks?
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  19. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 20 August 2014 09: 29
    +12
    But will Gorbachev return the medal himself or should he be reminded?
  20. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 20 August 2014 09: 32
    +1
    Yes, the question with brains for the Ukrainians has long been a big question! Either they have "curse the fat zyily", then what kind of nonsense will be thrown into the head and blame Russia for all their stupid actions, since it is nearby and very kind! however, it is slowly happening in Novorossia and the amount of added intelligence will be proportional to the number of coffins that come to the West from Donbass!
  21. silver169
    silver169 20 August 2014 09: 35
    +1
    I agree - a state based on the Bandera idea of ​​an eternal war, the destruction of all foreigners, primarily Russians, should cease to exist, and first of all thanks to the Russians, including from among the former Ukrainians. good
  22. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 20 August 2014 09: 47
    +2
    When the descendants of the great ukrov envy Vatnik

    Yes, by the new 2015 and envy!
  23. FC SKIF
    20 August 2014 09: 49
    +2
    My article is about the fact that Carthage must be destroyed ... by the Carthaginians themselves
    1. avt
      avt 20 August 2014 10: 28
      +1
      Quote: FC SKIF
      My article is about the fact that Carthage must be destroyed ... by the Carthaginians themselves

      Nah! Everything is quite according to Gogol - “I gave birth to you, I will kill you.” So whatever one may say, but in this period of time we are disentangling everything that was laid down by Vova Lenin when creating the Ukrainian SSR with all territorial cuts and Ukrainization of the population given to this education . Without Russia, without a clear, as in Crimea, project for a way out of the civil war Ruin cannot be overcome. ,, “Ukraine” as an anti-Russian and fascist project must be liquidated, and there is no one to do it except us, Russians. about a certain Cossack Kharko, the founder of the city of Kharkov (for the same Poles, centuries-old junior curators of Ukraine, it’s not at all funny when ukropatriots draw on their maps half of Poland's native Ukrainian). city, vilely appropriated, I am a Nazi muzzle, because Ukrainian historians have already "proven" that the famous troublemaker Pugachev is a Zaporozhye Cossack Pugach, borough with cursed pits. So the state, based on the Bandera idea of ​​eternal war, the destruction of all foreigners, primarily Russians, should cease to exist, and primarily thanks to the Russians, including from among the former Ukrainians. "- I completely agree.
      1. Twilight
        Twilight 21 August 2014 18: 40
        0
        What do you want on all sorts of * censors * great dill borders on China along Lake Baikal)))))
    2. Vitaly72
      Vitaly72 22 August 2014 01: 48
      0
      maybe if they lock! but my aunt from Kiev already wrote to my mother, she personally accused her of slavery and that the Russian paratroopers in Kiev, in my opinion, are not recognizable; she is an adult, born in the USSR
  24. Max otto
    Max otto 20 August 2014 09: 52
    +3
    Without knowing it, I began to look for a different identity ...

    I also had this search, due to the fact that it is impossible to determine nationality in me, but it ended right away as soon as the first bomb fell on Yugoslavia. After that, the pink fog left, I began to consider myself Russian. I saw that the West, as it pursued colonial policy, conducts as it walks along corpses and peoples.
  25. vvsz031249
    vvsz031249 20 August 2014 09: 54
    +3
    And these HOPPERS dare to call the Russian nation slaves, drunkards and loafers. Russians, Russians equip their homeland, show their independence and will by opposing the machinations of the whole world of capital, cherish their history and honor it ... And what do free ukroops do? They ruined everything and everything at home, invented their mythology about ancient Ukrainians, got into dependence and servitude of the West, live on credit, humblely extort handouts and, completely losing pride and honor, are ready to sell themselves to anyone who beckons ... They sell themselves to slavery and their descendants have already been driven into wholesale traps - you have to give loans. A freebie in the West is not cultivated ... Beggars and hungry beggars - the West will welcome you with open arms ... Wait, hope ... Where are you going to get from Russia. And answer for your words and deeds against the Motherland, RUSSIA ...
  26. MilesAth
    MilesAth 20 August 2014 10: 08
    +1
    Quote: mamont5
    "In general, it is not clear why they started this bloody storm in Ukraine. In another 20 years, and Ukraine would cease to be Russian. Absolutely. Just a natural change of generations and brainwashing." Yes, that's right. It would be so. But ... the Americans and the EU were in a hurry and lost.

    They have not had 20 years. After 20 years, such a state as the US may simply not exist, not everything is as good as the whole world is whistling, but rather, everything is very bad. And the EU, in this case, no one asked. They were just told what they should do.
  27. Nomad
    Nomad 20 August 2014 10: 16
    +4
    2 years ago, a friend was in Georgia. He says ordinary Georgians live poorly, but they treat Russia normally, they want to be friends, but they don’t like America, they say America used us, set us up and left us. Simple Georgians do not need hostility with Russia; Amers and their puppet Saakashvilli needed it. Apparently, in Ukraine there will be the same thing, no matter what happens there.
  28. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 20 August 2014 10: 30
    +1
    jumped on, naive fools, sold out for toilet paper ... a country of unwritten idiots
  29. victorrat
    victorrat 20 August 2014 10: 31
    +2
    I think that already the majority of Russians, and even there, in Ukraine, think the same way. Lenin's project "Ukraine" is bent over.
    In no case should this name be revived. The formula proposed by the author of the article remains firmly in memory. These are the Nazis.
    In addition, let’s remember why Ivan Franko was offended when he was called a Ukrainian and insisted that he was a Rusyn, as recorded in his passport.
    Yes, because the traitor of the Christian Orthodox faith who converted to Greek Catholics (filthy Uniates) was called Ukrainian. purely religious designation.
    There is no such nationality, Ukrainians will not be already, I really hope. Long live the heroes of New Russia! Death to the Bandera invaders!
  30. sever.56
    sever.56 20 August 2014 10: 49
    +1
    Unfortunately, simple, human truths through brainwashed people cannot reach the population of Ukraine. Reach only through an empty stomach and cold.
  31. RusDV
    RusDV 20 August 2014 11: 16
    +8
    When the descendants of the great ukrov envy Vatnik

    They are already jealous. Most. Especially their oligarchs. Those - with black envy, tk. they are not allowed to enter our market .... The haze of Westernism is gradually dissipating. And the Russians, as one, repeat - "pay for everything." Previously, this was not perceived. Now ukrov has a chill on the back ....... You know how to make enemies yourself, dill. Someone there kept repeating: "You are not our brothers!" I confirm. To me any Chechen, Serb, Kazakh, fighting for Novorossiya, a bigger brother than you ...
    Download further. Not long left .......
  32. Andrey82
    Andrey82 20 August 2014 11: 36
    0
    In winter, they will probably start stocking up with quilted jackets. But the militias in Kiev will be unlikely. Apparently, the Kremlin is trying to freeze a war like Transnistria with the autonomy of the DPR and LPR (the so-called federalization).
  33. Horn
    Horn 20 August 2014 11: 41
    +1
    Looks like the western curators of the “Ukraine Project” have not had these 10 years.

    - This is a key phrase! They have 5 years netuti.
  34. polite people
    polite people 20 August 2014 11: 46
    +4
    They do not have what we have. All their hatred is envy.
    1. zeleznijdorojnik
      zeleznijdorojnik 21 August 2014 20: 23
      -1
      Nothing would have happened if it weren’t for the tsar-killer of his people, Nikolashka ...
  35. Kushadasov
    Kushadasov 20 August 2014 11: 48
    +3
    I'm wondering what idiotic liberal creature came up with the term "quilted jackets"? Who are they? By the name of the clothes or what? So, excuse me, in quilted jackets the Great Soviet Warrior broke the back of fascism ... This, if you like, is the clothing of victory ...
  36. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 20 August 2014 11: 48
    +5
    I do not understand...
    The title of the article - When the descendants of the great ukrov envy quilted jackets?
    I thought that they always envied us ...
    ... a national trait, so to speak ...
  37. vass
    vass 20 August 2014 12: 12
    +3
    Do not say, but Ukrainians and Russians are still one people. Probably we need to hold back the desire, to call someone names and to put brands. Especially by nationality. It's time to change the stinging attitude in print and especially in the blogosphere. Otherwise, we will not be helped, those who begin to think and understand the games of the "mind" of the "partners". Many peoples have repeatedly found themselves in such trouble. Let's not forget that in '38 we were together obsessed with catching "enemies of the people." But it is obvious so far that not only the consciousness has not been freed from the consequences of that propaganda, but other options have also been found. Probably the blogs need to clearly distinguish the wrapped Ukrainians, incl. and those who are at war under the duress of the junta and the latter and the children of the junta, and not lash with nicknames. In ancient Rome, they used to say: If you are a patrician, then why are you behaving like a plebeian? After all, it is difficult for a person who agrees with you on a blog to overcome the feeling that he is an enemy of all Russians. We ourselves push the Ukrainians away from us, instead of encouraging the return of the mind. We must conduct our own propaganda. People's! All who are not frostbitten should be listened to and receive information from us. Let them not agree with everything, but they understand the main thing. Now they are afraid of us and therefore "close" in themselves. We need to understand that everything will pass, but we will stay. Together and forever. Therefore, we will not help Obama. Moreover, the author is right and in my opinion he described very well what and how the peoples of Ukraine are thinking today. Winter is coming soon. The brain works better in the cold. Let's help, otherwise they will freeze even more.
    1. Vitaly72
      Vitaly72 22 August 2014 02: 11
      0
      Of course you're right, but look how much anger from the lips of Ukrainians? they push us away, it’s impossible to communicate with a person who a priori considers you an aggressor and a villain
  38. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 20 August 2014 12: 43
    +1
    their statehood is less than I’m years old, I was born in 1987 ... but they had a lot of habits for the whole Roman Empire, homeless people and demagogues, had repeated experience in social networks with these shots ...
  39. Wolka
    Wolka 20 August 2014 12: 44
    0
    it's good if the rest of the "lost sheep" of the Maidan think so, but how many more ardent national patriots ...
  40. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 20 August 2014 12: 47
    +5
    Since 1991, the Ukrainians have been taught that they have always been deprived and devoured by Russia, since 2004 they have been hammered into their heads that the years of occupation and famine by Russia have taken and destroyed from them the best color of the nation and for the "suffering" they have suffered, a European paradise awaits them. it is only necessary to finally move away from Russia. 23 years of purposeful state program on profanation of the population were not in vain. Those who were born in 1991 are 23 years old. A person with a formed worldview and his own moral and spiritual attitudes, which cannot be changed in a month or a year. The impetus for rethinking and reevaluating one's convictions and views can only be a clear realization that Europe is not at all happy to find such a relative who, following the saying “IN A FAMILY IS NOT WITHOUT MORTALITY”, is perceived by a European family as “UGHT” and nothing else. And therefore, they do not feel delight from adoption in Europe and pull the bagpipes to capture Ukraine in their arms. What is even more offensive for the painful pride of the Novoukrainian is that in the old family of the USSR and Russia he also has the status of a MONSTER, who, moreover, leaving, slamming the door, spit on the very well from which he drank and bit his feeding hand. They don't expect him to come back. Left alone with himself, in a frozen Kiev hut and receiving food on coupons, this TIPOK will certainly see the light. In Europe, unemployment is strict, and if you are a European you have to learn the language of the host country, work in the lowest-paid jobs and pay taxes, maintain silence and generally behave in a European way, which is a big problem for a maidan TIPKA. Surely, he will want to leave for Russia, where everyone speaks Russian, which he understands, where there is a lot of work, you just need to have a desire to work, where it is warm and satisfying. To restore the economy of Ukraine and the country destroyed by it, TIPOK will generously provide quilted jackets and Colorads. He's used to freebies and comfort. But there is no need to let him into Russia. Visa only, by invitation only and only for a period not exceeding 30 days. That the opportunity to visit Russia became for this TIPKA not a loophole for solving problems and earning money, not a territory where you can sit back carefree and at the same time hate everyone around him, but a dream.
    1. kvm11
      kvm11 21 August 2014 12: 50
      +2
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      Surely, he wants to leave for Russia, where everyone speaks Russian that he understands, where work is endless; you just need to have a desire to work

      Refugees from Ukraine do not want to work, they say that the salary is small, they need 50000-70000 a month to go to a lower salary. But in Tolyatti we don’t have such salaries.
      1. es.d
        es.d 21 August 2014 19: 36
        0
        Quote: kvm11
        Refugees from Ukraine do not want to work, they say that salaries are low


        Well I do not know. Two refugee nurses get a job with his wife. What is the salary of nurses, you guess crying True, adults.
        PS And the refugees, it’s real, it’s not a myth sad The other day I was driving from Syzran, saw cars with Ukrainian license plates, loaded like gypsies. Judging by the car (3rd, 4th, 6th), obviously - not the oligarchs. They are going to Moscow.
  41. rf xnumx
    rf xnumx 20 August 2014 13: 01
    +3
    When I hear the expression great uk, it makes me laugh ...
  42. Alfizik
    Alfizik 20 August 2014 14: 01
    0
    Great article! I disagree with only one thesis: "Another 20 years, and Ukraine would cease to be Russian." It is not people who make history, but their fates, the fates of civilizations. I am sure that in 20 years, if the militia fails to cope with the disaster, the author of the article will write: "Another 20 years, and Ukraine will become Russian again!"
  43. Alexgs
    Alexgs 20 August 2014 14: 03
    +21


    That also happens! )))
  44. Gray-haired Siberian
    Gray-haired Siberian 20 August 2014 14: 12
    +2
    I don’t understand why people continue to support the artificial idea that Ukraine’s enemies invented about Ukraine as a country and Ukrainians as a nation. In my opinion, Ukraine is just the same part of Russia as, for example, the Volga region, Pomerania, the Kuban or Siberia. And the same Russians live there, as elsewhere. And the language here is not an indicator. Firstly, it was created artificially, and secondly, in our remote villages it is also sometimes said that it is difficult to understand (this is just a consequence of lack of literacy)
    We would like this thought to be bolderly propagated by all of us: the official authorities, the media, literature, and science and history textbooks! Then maybe there wouldn’t be the madness that is happening in Ukraine now.
    1. Alex20042004
      Alex20042004 21 August 2014 18: 09
      +1
      Dear, please answer this question:
      Why didn’t the indoctrination that occurred in Ukraine happen in Belarus, Kazakhstan, or in the same Baltic countries?
      And do not propagate, persuade or agitate anyone.
      In my opinion, the path of Ukraine is the path through Purgatory, which she chose for herself.
    2. maos
      maos 22 August 2014 11: 54
      -4
      that Siberia changed its mind?
      as a result of lack of literacy, you have such thoughts.
      Why should Ukraine be part of Russia? Then try to join Belarus and China at the same time ... good
  45. smershxnumx
    smershxnumx 20 August 2014 14: 36
    +4
    Quote: asar
    "Valiant Ukrainian soldiers from the southern boiler, under heavy fire from Russian territory, retreated ... deep into Russia."

    Cool bridged !!!!
  46. psiho117
    psiho117 20 August 2014 16: 22
    +1
    Quote: yur58
    And since many people think that there ... many Russian mercenaries and bandits,

    Kaye nafig Russian mercenaries ... Geletey during the briefing every 3-4 minutes speaks about "the blights of the brave Ukrainian warriors against the Russian army" and about "shelling of the positions of the ATO forces from the Russian territory". And so for several hours several times a day.

    There, everyone has long been convinced that the war is being waged with Russia, and their National Guard is at war with the Russian army.
    1. Vitaly72
      Vitaly72 22 August 2014 02: 28
      0
      I served in the 90s, but I’m sure that even in this state our army lifted up dill in no more than a week
  47. umka_
    umka_ 20 August 2014 16: 59
    0
    Yes, we must remember that the cause of contention is the Anglo-Saxons, everything else is a consequence.
  48. el.krokodil
    el.krokodil 20 August 2014 18: 30
    +1
    Quote: asar
    If not a fake, then great, "the ice is broken":
    Thorbjörn Jagland, chairman of the Nobel Peace Committee, said today that President Obama "really should consider" returning his Nobel Peace Medal immediately.
    Jagland, surrounded by four other committee members, said they had never asked for a peace prize to be returned before, "even from a damned war criminal like Kissinger," but "Guantanamo is still open."

    Afghanistan, the bombing of Libya. Bin Laden was killed there, and not taken to the dock.

    The committee awarded Obama the coveted prize in 2009 after he made a series of appearances in the early months of his presidency, when he convinced the Peace Prize committee that he was in favor of: “creating a new climate ... multilateral diplomacy ... emphasizing the role of the Organization United Nations ... dialogue and negotiation as tools for resolving international conflicts ... and a vision of a world free of nuclear weapons. " He said the committee members were "completely drunk" the day they voted, just as they did during the annual AQUAVIT tasting festival in Norway.

    The "totally stoned" members listened over and over to reruns of Obama's speech in Cairo, envisioning a glorious future: a black man leading America and the world into a new era of peace, hope and goodwill. "Within hours we were all like 18-year-old students again at the beautiful, sometimes sunny University of Bergen! Oh, how we cried with joy!"

    The Chairman said that Mr. Obama could send the medal back in a simple package by regular mail if this helps him overcome the embarrassment of public return.

    The White House declined to comment.



    A start?!
    Dill! Since they say this in the world, then maybe you, too, will "move your brains", on the subject - where are you going, dill ?! Before it's too late ?!
    first, jumping forward of their pants, they reward the frame with a medal .. sprinkling pathos and swelling from their own significance, the Nobel Committee realized that he screwed up laughing and the obama won't give them the medal .. too strong among the blacks is the craving for brilliant tsatsk, and the obama is no exception laughing
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 22 August 2014 10: 46
      0
      maybe it’s racism, or maybe recognition of the differences between races from each other, but Negroes are crazy guys, and choosing a Negro for an important public position, the chance to run into is significantly greater than with white or yellow ... with yellow, by the way - this is the smallest chance ...

      for those interested: Burovsky's book "White Burden: Extraordinary Racism". in my life I was convinced more than once in the correctness of the racial differences described in the book ... although far from being a racist by convictions!
  49. el.krokodil
    el.krokodil 20 August 2014 18: 35
    +1
    Quote: Edvagan
    Yes, it’s clear that they went to make fun of us, why comment seriously? Just a spit in the direction of the United States, a trifle, but nice))
    of the leaders of the resistance, our youth made memes .. let them mock protoucra and amers .. you look at this video the comment will be made by psaka and the State Department laughing ..they love info from social networks laughing
  50. Captain45
    Captain45 20 August 2014 19: 03
    0
    As the one-legged John Silver said: "In half an hour I will heat up this blockhouse like a barrel of rum. And the survivors will envy the dead!" (C) RL Stevenson "Treasure Island". I think these are the right words. Let not half an hour , even if half a year, we must wait and then the surviving svidomye first-timers will envy those killed near Slavyansk, Marinovka, Donetsk and Lugansk! "How!" (I said everything), as Chingachguk said! laughing