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Ukrainian Foreign Minister called the terms of the truce in the east of the country

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On Monday, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Pavel Klimkin said that Kiev was ready to go for a bilateral cessation of hostilities in the east of the country in case of establishing control over the border, resolving the situation with the hostages and ensuring the work of the OSCE monitoring teams.

Ukrainian Foreign Minister called the terms of the truce in the east of the country


Earlier, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that Moscow insisted on an unconditional ceasefire at the talks in Berlin, but the Kiev authorities continue to put forward conditions.

“We talked about key issues. For me, the absolute priority was effective control over the border, ensuring that OSCE monitors had the ability to fully monitor and verify, of course, that we made real progress on the hostages. These issues are key to moving towards a bilateral ceasefire, ”Klimkin quotes RIA "News".

In turn, the Prime Minister of the Donetsk People's Republic, Alexander Zakharchenko, said that the DPR was ready for constructive negotiations on an armistice, if Kiev put forward reasonable proposals.

“We are open for negotiations, we are waiting for reasonable offers. If there are reasonable suggestions to add up weapon, to ensure the closure of borders, we will talk on equal terms as equal partners, ”he said. ITAR-TASS.

In addition, Zakharchenko stressed that the militia will "fight to the last, to protect their homes and families."

“They should recognize us as a state, now it’s impossible to ask for some degree of autonomy,” he said.
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  1. master 84
    master 84 19 August 2014 11: 00
    +12
    Well, the conditions are set on you angry
    1. Oleg Sobol
      Oleg Sobol 19 August 2014 11: 03
      +23
      A bast and bast ... They will not do anything, stupidly waste time and destroy the population and cities ...
      As Comrade Zhukov said: Full and unconditional Surrender!
      1. Hariva
        Hariva 19 August 2014 11: 16
        +3
        Quote: Oleg Sobol
        A bast and bast ... They will not do anything, stupidly waste time and destroy the population and cities ...
        As Comrade Zhukov said: Full and unconditional Surrender!

        And where are they actually pulling him? What time is it? Did the junta have any bright prospects ahead? In my opinion, that's all. Well, they say we wanted it, but the separatists themselves refused. Therefore, the conditions are impracticable.
      2. Paradoxov
        Paradoxov 19 August 2014 11: 24
        +22
        Yeah, they started to stir as soon as they realized that no "capture" by August 24th was coming!
        And in the end, it’s shining:
        map

        Look for the outskirts! laughing
        1. theadenter
          theadenter 19 August 2014 12: 08
          +2
          Until dill is chopped off by TV, they cannot be persuaded of their wrongness.
        2. PalSanych
          PalSanych 19 August 2014 12: 54
          +1
          it’s too early before these sketches .. what a pity!
        3. zao74
          zao74 19 August 2014 17: 12
          0
          Crimea in the picture is not the right color ...
          1. Sandov
            Sandov 19 August 2014 19: 21
            0
            Quote: zao74
            Crimea in the picture is not the right color ...

            They painted even before the terrible revolution.
      3. Underwood
        Underwood 19 August 2014 11: 26
        -8
        Quote: Oleg Sobol
        Full and unconditional Surrender!

        do not write nonsense. This Zhukovsky imperative here is neither to the village, nor to the city.
        1. Oldwiser
          Oldwiser 19 August 2014 12: 07
          +3
          Very much even to the city - or "suitcase, airport, Washington" for the huntais
      4. Sandov
        Sandov 19 August 2014 11: 55
        +3
        Quote: Oleg Sobol
        Full and unconditional Surrender!

        The withdrawal of the invaders from the territory of New Russia and the recognition of its independence by the entire civilized world. (This is not Kosovo created by bandits and killers.)
        1. Oldwiser
          Oldwiser 19 August 2014 12: 08
          +3
          And the trial of Kolomoisky, Avakov, Turchinov, Yaytsenyukh and Parashenko (and total denazification)
        2. Underwood
          Underwood 19 August 2014 12: 56
          -2
          Quote: Sandov
          recognition of its independence by the whole civilized world

          fantasies about "the whole civilized world" - is it NKR, South Ossetia and Abkhazia?
    2. Koloradovatnik
      Koloradovatnik 19 August 2014 11: 04
      +2
      Armistice terms of the killer and the victim ...
      "Your only fault is that I want to eat." Krylov. Fables.
      1. Oldwiser
        Oldwiser 19 August 2014 12: 09
        0
        Klaas's ashes knock on my heart, and for the junta - the steps of the commander from Stone Guest
    3. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 19 August 2014 11: 05
      +2
      Quote: master 84
      Well, the conditions are set for you

      So the analogy begs Israel and Gaza. There, too, one of the parties constantly puts forward conditions. Often unfeasible.
      1. Oldwiser
        Oldwiser 19 August 2014 12: 12
        -3
        Do not confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs, Palestine was artificially created specifically to spread rot Israel; and Novorossiya is a natural reaction of the SE to the fascist junta of Kiev. Therefore, the conditions are really only "complete and unconditional surrender"
        1. Underwood
          Underwood 19 August 2014 13: 01
          -4
          Quote: OldWiser
          Therefore, the conditions are really only "complete and unconditional surrender"

          whose in front of whom? Legally, DNRL is a fiction.
          Well, freedom to Tibet. We demand the surrender of the PLA.
          And by the way, what, is Bezler already storming Kiev?
    4. neri73-r
      neri73-r 19 August 2014 11: 07
      +5
      the Anglo-Saxons are whispering behind their backs, it’s not for them to flee from the country, but to hang out on the gallows for committed military crimes and against humanity, this idiot is scratching his tongue, he makes conditions! The theater of the absurd, in three to four months the state will bark, or rather the remnants of the state, and it puts forward the conditions ....... fool
      1. schizophrenic
        schizophrenic 19 August 2014 11: 19
        +3
        The junta is needed control on the border with Russia, if they wanted to in Kiev. Can immediately give the border across Japan to control Kiev. am
        1. Underwood
          Underwood 19 August 2014 11: 30
          -7
          Quote: schizophrenic
          The junta is needed control on the border with Russia, if they wanted to in Kiev. Can immediately give the border across Japan to control Kiev.

          What does Japan have to do with it? De jure, Ukraine is within its former borders; no one recognized the DNRLR; therefore, I don’t understand why Kiev’s thesis about border control provokes such a reaction. Another thing is that this is a difficult condition.
          1. Oldwiser
            Oldwiser 19 August 2014 12: 16
            +3
            and the militia and the population of SE - disarm, surrender, immediately loop on the neck and knock out a stool for ourselves so that the junta doesn’t spend extra money
          2. schizophrenic
            schizophrenic 19 August 2014 12: 21
            +1
            Quote: Underwood
            De jure Ukraine is within its former borders

            De facto, there are already republics. The question is, the junta's appetite, and as you know, the appetite comes with eating. Especially if the hungry are fed tablets for appetite.
          3. kergudu straight
            kergudu straight 19 August 2014 12: 48
            +1
            Quote: Underwood
            Quote: schizophrenic
            The junta is needed control on the border with Russia, if they wanted to in Kiev. Can immediately give the border across Japan to control Kiev.

            What does Japan have to do with it? De jure, Ukraine is within its former borders; no one recognized the DNRLR; therefore, I don’t understand why Kiev’s thesis about border control provokes such a reaction. Another thing is that this is a difficult condition.

            Only now, the snag, the border of dill is not defined since 91, what border are you talking about?
            1. Underwood
              Underwood 19 August 2014 13: 38
              0
              Quote: Kergudo Straight
              What border are you talking about?

              Specifically - about the Russian-Ukrainian. The agreement was ratified in 2004.
          4. pr 627
            pr 627 19 August 2014 13: 28
            0
            De facto DNI and LC exist and this border is no longer Russian-Ukrainian. And recognition of the republics of Little Russia is tomorrow's task.
            1. Underwood
              Underwood 19 August 2014 13: 42
              0
              Quote: pr 627
              De facto DNI and LC exist and this border is no longer Russian-Ukrainian.

              funny. Which one?
          5. shaman-25rus
            shaman-25rus 19 August 2014 16: 17
            0
            De jure, Ukraine does not exist as a separate state within certain borders. De jure, it is still part of the USSR.
        2. Oldwiser
          Oldwiser 19 August 2014 12: 14
          +2
          Yes, let them control it - only in handcuffs and on our part; and from the ruins, sorry, New Russia - they control who is needed - they militia
      2. Tersky
        Tersky 19 August 2014 11: 27
        +2
        Zakharchenko-
        “They must recognize us as a state, now it is no longer possible to ask for some degree of autonomy”
        Which state ??? Feudalism in full bloom. The "Maidaners" destroyed the country, unleashed a civil war, which gradually turned into a hybrid one. And instead of kleptomaniacs they brought to power cannibalistic marauders who cheerfully devour the corpse of Ukraine. The country was deliberately divided from different repeaters into "dill" and "colorado", "patriots" and "separatists", "bander" and "zschene", as Farion calls them. Moreover, this mulka was started in time immemorial with the sole purpose of chopping down the BABLO. A powerful "bablop-washing" business operation is being carried out at URKA, from the budget, and under this silliness the oligarchy gets personal battalions that are not under the control of the official Kuyevskaya junta, and beat Poros on "reasonable" proposals ...
        1. Oldwiser
          Oldwiser 19 August 2014 12: 18
          +3
          about the ruin - 100% true; but Novorossia-it is necessary to build as a state. But first, throw in the trash of the history of the ukrofascist invaders and ukronazism as a phenomenon.
      3. Oldwiser
        Oldwiser 19 August 2014 12: 13
        +1
        Since, as it were, "negotiations", then it is necessary to break, like any decent b ...
    5. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 19 August 2014 11: 24
      +5
      Border controls what I did not understand, we need to introduce a military and seize the border from the army of New Russia, since the Kiev junta can not do this ??? Or they want something.
      1. Oleg Sobol
        Oleg Sobol 19 August 2014 12: 18
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I did not understand, we need to introduce a military and seize the border from the army of New Russia, since the Kiev junta can not do this ??? Or they want something.

        They want NATO. They are no longer in a position to strangle the republic with their "dirty" hands. They are waiting for the September NATO summit, where they will "whine and groan" by a "strengthened and numerous" delegation.
    6. Alfizik
      Alfizik 19 August 2014 12: 49
      +1
      One can also agree to federalization (for Kiev it is less painful and embarrassing), and only then ... (as in "civilized" countries) leave.
      As for Klimkin ... They want the "hockey players" of Novorossiya to play without armor.
      1. Sandov
        Sandov 19 August 2014 19: 24
        0
        Quote: Alfizik
        One can also agree to federalization (for Kiev it is less painful and embarrassing), and only then ... (as in "civilized" countries) leave.
        As for Klimkin ... They want the "hockey players" of Novorossiya to play without armor.

        Actually an option.
  2. Mooh
    Mooh 19 August 2014 11: 01
    +2
    Enlighten please what the hell are the hostages?
    1. KUOLEMA
      KUOLEMA 19 August 2014 11: 01
      0
      prisoners most likely
    2. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 19 August 2014 12: 19
      +1
      captured and captured by the Gestapo-SBU activists of the movements of the then still type "for federalization"
  3. KUOLEMA
    KUOLEMA 19 August 2014 11: 01
    +10
    Only the recognition of New Russia as a state !!!
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 19 August 2014 12: 21
      0
      The Transnistrian version is more realistic - but with the provision of all humanitarian actions with the peacekeeping contingent (Russia + CSTO, if they want)
  4. RusDV
    RusDV 19 August 2014 11: 02
    +11
    They must recognize us as a state, now it is no longer possible to ask for some degree of autonomy
    Oh how! And someone argued that Putin "brought everything". In a month reserves will be accumulated, Igor Ivanovich will return (with the order) and - give Kiev!
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 19 August 2014 12: 22
      +2
      further west on the list
      1. RusDV
        RusDV 19 August 2014 12: 29
        0
        Quote: OldWiser
        further west on the list

        New Russia is not necessary ..... ruins of Lviv will be satisfied ....
  5. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 19 August 2014 11: 02
    +3
    “They must recognize us as a state, now it is no longer possible to ask for some degree of autonomy”
    - strong. I think they’ll go all the way. And there, you see, they will want to expand ...
    1. series
      series 19 August 2014 11: 05
      +2
      Expansion is possible only through Beni’s corpse
      1. RusDV
        RusDV 19 August 2014 11: 37
        +2
        Quote: S-17
        Expansion is possible only through Beni’s corpse

        Great idea! Although .... where will he go from a single submarine laughing direction to Odessa will be through Dnepropetrovsk ..... Let it be prepared ...
  6. nitrid
    nitrid 19 August 2014 11: 03
    +7
    Admit your guilt then self-destruct and we with victorious slogans will think to drown you further in the blood or not ... A tempting offer.
  7. max2215
    max2215 19 August 2014 11: 03
    +2
    “They should recognize us as a state, now it’s impossible to ask for some degree of autonomy,” he said.

    After what ukrovoyaki have done, I think this is not possible, perhaps only after the introduction of peacekeepers, only not NATO. The introduction of NATO is actually a declaration of war on Russia.
    1. RusDV
      RusDV 19 August 2014 11: 42
      +1
      Quote: max2215
      I think this is not possible, possible

      Maybe. If Lviv behaves well, it may ask for autonomy from New Russia .... let the ruins of the city be restored ..... am
  8. Midshipman
    Midshipman 19 August 2014 11: 03
    +2
    As fried smell, so immediately negotiations am
    1. iConst
      iConst 19 August 2014 11: 15
      +1
      Quote: Midshipman
      As fried smell, so immediately negotiations am
      This has already happened - and more than once ... They just delay time by begging for military handouts from everyone who doesn’t get ...
    2. vitamin ky
      vitamin ky 19 August 2014 15: 28
      +1
      yes figs there such a situation implies at least the beginnings of some kind of mind, and so it’s political tricks: to set unrealistic conditions — to grind and rub your hands, God help the Ukrainians (hopelessness), stop the war, -drew the troops —that is only then you will begin to be perceived as people then you can agree - and all this is hopeless recourse
  9. vorobey
    vorobey 19 August 2014 11: 03
    +6
    after 24, when the march for the independence of Galicia from Ukraine will pass and the date of the referendum will be determined ... then we can talk.
  10. 81 onwards
    81 onwards 19 August 2014 11: 03
    +3
    Did the Uekras want to relocate again? Better let them think about lustration.
    1. nitrid
      nitrid 19 August 2014 11: 06
      +3
      Lustration threatens with castration of the new government since everything new is still not forgotten old ...
  11. series
    series 19 August 2014 11: 03
    +11
    I watched a video today, from yesterday’s meeting of 4 in Germany. The junta’s head of the kakbe of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
    Yes, and I am pretty amused by this unintegrating feature of them - hanging the EU flag next to your flag. What did schizo-Mishiko have, what did these clowns ... In the EU, on the contrary, it is necessary to forbid all morons to demonstrate their symbolism at the state level ... Although now in the EU clowning is no worse than in Kuev ...
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 19 August 2014 12: 25
      +2
      goblin Van Rompuy and mare Ashton - as in the saying "ram and bright, here's a couple"
  12. Victor-M
    Victor-M 19 August 2014 11: 04
    +3
    On Monday, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Pavel Klimkin said that Kiev was ready to go for a bilateral cessation of hostilities in the east of the country in case of establishing control over the border, resolving the situation with the hostages and ensuring the work of the OSCE monitoring teams.


    At the time, pack your bags, and they talk about some conditions. laughing
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 19 August 2014 12: 26
      0
      so they live in virtual reality, natural - painfully creepy, you can crap from fear
  13. cosmos132
    cosmos132 19 August 2014 11: 04
    +2
    Only equal negotiations on equal terms.
    1. kergudu straight
      kergudu straight 19 August 2014 12: 56
      0
      Quote: cosmos132
      Only equal negotiations on equal terms.

      And the ceasefire, it was already like that and it didn’t end in good, the banderlogs now rake ayulei at the most I don’t want, so I started a fuss so that the regrouping can be done, you can’t believe them, you just have to crush them
  14. aleks 62
    aleks 62 19 August 2014 11: 04
    +2
    ..... It also sets the conditions ..... After everything that the wide ones have done .... Hmm .... recourse
  15. DMB-75
    DMB-75 19 August 2014 11: 05
    +19
    ... talks with the junta! This is not to respect yourself!
  16. sem-yak
    sem-yak 19 August 2014 11: 05
    +10
    Nothing Santa Claus is just around the corner! Soon we will set the conditions!
    And the Bulgarians will comb themselves and the Poles, everyone will become more conspicuous !!!
    1. Underwood
      Underwood 19 August 2014 11: 54
      +1
      Quote: sem-yak
      Nothing Santa Claus is just around the corner! Soon we will set the conditions!
      And the Bulgarians will comb themselves and the Poles, everyone will become more conspicuous !!!
    2. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 19 August 2014 12: 29
      +3
      conditions - unconditional ceasefire; the withdrawal of all troops to the places of permanent deployment; dissolution of territorial battalions and the national guard; trial of Nazi criminals; then you can talk about the form of government
    3. slav4ikus
      slav4ikus 19 August 2014 19: 09
      +1
      for the Poles, the story told how they behaved in troubled times, in Moscow, the Psheks wanted to sit, cracked cracking .. but the Bulgarians, creatures are ungrateful! The whole blood is watered with the blood of Russian soldiers who saved Bulgaria from the Ottoman ...
  17. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 19 August 2014 11: 05
    +1
    Nothing. Winter is coming and Klimkin’s conditions will begin to change!
    1. Vend
      Vend 19 August 2014 11: 12
      +2
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      Nothing. Winter is coming and Klimkin’s conditions will begin to change!

      I don’t think so. Should someone say against political lawlessness or war, he will at least be dismissed and a mental hospital. Oh, and the government will feel comfortable, even in the absence of gas, light and hot water. They will have all this in abundance. They will rest against the last. Although maybe I'm wrong.
      1. Oldwiser
        Oldwiser 19 August 2014 12: 30
        +1
        Washington will fight to the last Ukraine
  18. DMB-88
    DMB-88 19 August 2014 11: 06
    +7
    According to the rhetoric of recent days, it was clear that it was a matter of negotiation, hence the resignation and leave of Strelkov, the resignation of Beard. I would very much like that the revolutionary conquests of New Russia, obtained at the cost of many victims, were not trampled by some strange treaty!
  19. muginov2015
    muginov2015 19 August 2014 11: 07
    +4
    what negotiations! it is necessary to achieve, there will be no peaceful coexistence. Kakly, having accumulated strength, will again and again try to take revenge.
  20. matross
    matross 19 August 2014 11: 07
    +4
    “They must recognize us as a state, now it is no longer possible to ask for some degree of autonomy”
    Wow, a serious statement. It seems that ours will win ... Such ultimatums on the verge of defeat are not being done. So they feel their strength and support behind.
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 19 August 2014 12: 32
      0
      "Our cause is just, the enemy will be defeated, victory will be ours" - have we forgotten that WE ARE RUSSIAN!
  21. Pridnestrovec
    Pridnestrovec 19 August 2014 11: 09
    +5
    Oh, I can’t believe something! Lying junta again, tossed some pig under the pretext of ending hostilities! Definitely only recognition as a State!
  22. Wolka
    Wolka 19 August 2014 11: 12
    +1
    dill will soon be not up to the conditions, winter is coming soon, however, people have already been laid to their mothers do not worry, they would generally stay alive ...
  23. iiggi
    iiggi 19 August 2014 11: 12
    +1
    If dill still thinks of a truce, there will be nothing left of their army, and militias will come to Kiev.
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 19 August 2014 12: 33
      0
      come - after and to the liking of the Pravoseks - let them clean all this rot first - our less dirty work will remain
  24. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 19 August 2014 11: 15
    +1
    Quote: matRoss
    So they feel their strength and support behind.

    Well, there has always been support, and not only political. Another thing is that the militia really does beat punishers. As Suvorov used to say: "Not by number, but by skill."
  25. Ignatius
    Ignatius 19 August 2014 11: 15
    0
    They are already laying dill straws to explain to their population and geyrope why the ATO cannot be successfully completed by August 24 ...
  26. navara399
    navara399 19 August 2014 11: 15
    +5
    Ukrainians need a respite, the troops are exhausted, and somehow now we need to get out with Independence Day. Donets and Lugansk they no longer take. They will now begin to bargain for a more or less decent ceasefire, to expose themselves to the West as associates of peace initiatives.
    It’s necessary to break off their holiday!
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 19 August 2014 11: 29
      +2
      All right, dill needs a truce to regroup and reorganize the broken parts. The last battles were very difficult for them.
  27. sem-yak
    sem-yak 19 August 2014 11: 16
    +5
    The cold came

    Terrace wind
    It's cold in the stroller!

    On Andreika - quilted jackets,
    Sweatshirts, mittens,
    Striped Andreike Scarf
    Sisters brought.

    He sits barely breathing
    In a quilted jacket variegated.
    Like a pole baby
    Equipped sisters.

    - Get used to the cold! - Explains the Light .-
    And winter comes to us
    And not just summer.

    (A. Barto)


    how important for dill on the eve of the coming winter!
  28. RN40Y45
    RN40Y45 19 August 2014 11: 16
    +2
    as usual, both parties put forward unacceptable conditions, now much depends on whether the DPR and LPR will survive until November ...
  29. shitovmg
    shitovmg 19 August 2014 11: 16
    +1
    That's right! what Ukraine wanted, that’s what it achieved. There can be no talk of any autonomy! Only negotiations as equal subjects.
  30. Stinger
    Stinger 19 August 2014 11: 17
    +1
    Sly dill. Why then set the task to take Donetsk by August 24.08?
    1. RN40Y45
      RN40Y45 19 August 2014 11: 19
      +2
      because they will either crush the militia with meat, or roll away and will be preparing for defense already.
  31. andrei332809
    andrei332809 19 August 2014 11: 17
    +4
    All the same, dill lives in some sort of its own world. They are not friends with reality at all. it’s amazing how they still haven’t put forward an ultimatum to us about a complete unconditional belay
  32. Dezinto
    Dezinto 19 August 2014 11: 17
    +2
    What flag did they hang next to their EU flag? So then both Handuras and Burkina Faso can proudly display the EU flag.
  33. socrates7
    socrates7 19 August 2014 11: 18
    +2
    Have you seen this Klimkin? After all, it is not possible to look at him without tears. And the conditions put forward by him are generally touching with their simplicity. Once again, I am convinced what kind of d ... s came to power in Ukraine.
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 19 August 2014 12: 36
      0
      macaque from Washington only plant chimpanzees and can
  34. MSA
    MSA 19 August 2014 11: 18
    +1
    It is necessary to press the junta !!!
  35. Kakaktus
    Kakaktus 19 August 2014 11: 18
    0
    America’s Six is ​​full of ___ osuts, they don’t even give themselves a break
  36. vodolaz
    vodolaz 19 August 2014 11: 18
    +2
    Conversation? Well, well, the troops are withdrawn and there will be no war. But the current government does not need it - they need to produce shale gas there, and some local residents get in the way.
  37. Chaika
    Chaika 19 August 2014 11: 19
    +1
    There is hope that dill will soon start a war among themselves. That will be nice!
    1. Hariva
      Hariva 19 August 2014 11: 29
      +1
      Then Europe is definitely a star. The main "battles" are to turn around for the right to own the pipe - the nurse. She's the first to be torn apart.
  38. Federal
    Federal 19 August 2014 11: 20
    +5
    Poroshenko, Klimkin and others like them, agree until it’s too late for the terms of the DPR and LPR today, tomorrow it may be too late for you. You will burn in hell with your heroes.
  39. sm00vik
    sm00vik 19 August 2014 11: 22
    +2
    You need to squeeze dill! You won’t do it now - how the wound will constantly bleed.
  40. Andchevh
    Andchevh 19 August 2014 11: 25
    +4
    No truce is necessary, the rulers are US puppets, all these negotiations are pure cheating! The pedos set the task of killing the population of the South-East supporting Russia as much as possible! Genocide in its pure form! The negotiations are a screen to cover the true intentions of the banderlogs! Only a strong defeat on the fronts will make Parashka end the war !!!
  41. Boombarash
    Boombarash 19 August 2014 11: 26
    +5
    As for cabbage soup begin to receive. immediately about the negotiations moo. But the conditions set as if they had a Chinese army. not crap rabble.
  42. Naval
    Naval 19 August 2014 11: 27
    +3
    No truce is expected in the near future. The junta seeks to squeeze the militia in the near future. Because of this, they do not let the humanitarian convoy through and put forward obviously unacceptable conditions. So, for the world community, like Poroshenko’s fake plan, more like an ultimatum.
    Only the successes of the militia and huge losses will push the junta to real negotiations and a real ceasefire. Therefore, successes to you are the heroes of New Russia!
  43. maxxdesign
    maxxdesign 19 August 2014 11: 27
    +2
    border control - yeah! right now! to make the bastards easier to surround the Donbass and crush it? what negotiations with the parasite, which has repeatedly violated her words, until this one will be in prison together with her friends Klitschko yaritsenyukh and other Pindorasiki - no negotiations and contracts!
  44. Vardan
    Vardan 19 August 2014 11: 31
    +5
    Have you noticed in the report about this meeting how Klimkin shied away from Lavrov and all the time tried to hide behind the German minister? - it was funny, on a subconscious level the dog is staring ...

    A purely hypothetical question - can Russia provide gas only to Novorossia?
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 19 August 2014 12: 41
      +2
      Watson is elementary - of the 18 entry points of the g / p to Ruin, three are located in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions (two more - in Kharkov). And then gas is choked to the West. So submitting to three channels out of 18 is easier than a turnip.
    2. Sandov
      Sandov 19 August 2014 19: 29
      +1
      Quote: Vardan
      A purely hypothetical question - can Russia provide gas only to Novorossia?

      You can actually do this.
  45. novel68rus
    novel68rus 19 August 2014 11: 33
    +3
    friends, but don’t you think that Donetsk and Lugansk want to merge quietly? this resignation of a beard and a rifleman is not just like that ... again, conversations and armistice ... the campaign there begins to share power on favorable terms ... I want to believe that this is not so and the victims were not in vain ..
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 19 August 2014 12: 46
      0
      If socialism is not built in Novorossia (which would be strange for capitalist big Russia), then there will be no nationalization of the remaining unbombed industry; Since we have a sacred respect for private property, we cannot dispossess Mr. Akhmetov either. Therefore, he is still offered a package of "political" shares. But naturally - on certain counter conditions (such as hard pressure on the rest of the oligarchy - Kolomoisky and Co.). So "politics is the art of the possible" (and the impossible too)
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 19 August 2014 13: 24
        0
        Quote: OldWiser
        If in Novorossia they will not build socialism (which would be strange for a large capitalist Russia)

        What could become an example for Greater Russia ...
  46. gmasterbit
    gmasterbit 19 August 2014 11: 33
    +2
    it is important to understand that even if a miracle happens and the new Russia is recognized, the turmoil will not end. All right sectors and other Kolomoisky will instantly pose in a pose. And it is quite possible to repeat the scenario — western Ukraine will separate and so on until they get bored ...
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 19 August 2014 12: 48
      0
      Time to throw stones and time to collect stones. For the Ruins - the time of the collapse and burial of ukronazism. But after the victory over Nazism, the time will come for the gathering of a new Ukraine (already Novorossia)
  47. MilesAth
    MilesAth 19 August 2014 11: 34
    +3
    fellow Klimkin confused something. What conditions?!
    It was time for him and his comrades to pack their bags and scuff up to the Canadian border.
    Otherwise, they have a real chance to repeat the fate of the elite of Nazi Germany.
    in 1945 city
  48. skeptic2999
    skeptic2999 19 August 2014 11: 38
    +2
    Quote: Andchevh
    No truce is necessary, the rulers are US puppets, all these negotiations are pure cheating! The pedos set the task of killing the population of the South-East supporting Russia as much as possible! Genocide in its pure form! The negotiations are a screen to cover the true intentions of the banderlogs! Only a strong defeat on the fronts will make Parashka end the war !!!

    Of course, respite is also needed for the militia: supply, evacuation of the wounded and civilians. The Russian leadership will have the time and opportunity to provide more assistance than New Russia now. But only the onset of the militia, joining the military operations against the junta of patriots from other areas of the southeast will be able to turn the tide. I hope that finally those who are guilty of the destruction of the Malaysian Boeing will be officially announced. Then everything will turn out as it should. But I have little hope for a similar course of events.
  49. fairmen
    fairmen 19 August 2014 11: 38
    +3
    time is being spent so that, as last time, to gather more forces and strike at New Russia, and there you look and break through the creature’s defense, shameful cease-fires can only be done after the troops are withdrawn and the borders are established. They want to let the border in and make a new one without Donetsk and Lugansk
  50. Cristall
    Cristall 19 August 2014 11: 50
    -2
    Kiev is all the talking heads of Washington ... but since the sponsors have cooled off (not so much to give up but are in no hurry) and rushed to save oil, the population is given a stone in the form of a possible end to the civil war ...
    At the same time, the rating will rise a little - they say we want the world ...
    However, I do not see the point of declaring the independence of Donbass ... well, what kind of independence? It will be economically difficult to live in "independence" it will be like Ukraine after 91 ...
    Ukraine itself will have a lot of opportunities to make life independent very difficult ... and the hearth will remain.
    It is necessary to resolve the issue in such a way that both sides are interested in maintaining peace .. otherwise, the sponsors will either get tired of it and the chaos zone will be in the Russian Federation .. or everything will turn into something more complicated (the concentration of blockade troops in the PMR)
    There is enough stupidity at the HONEY .. they are not sorry for us so what pity they will have before the PMR and HP?