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State of Labor


The indecision of the leadership of our country in the face of the Kiev junta and the world forces behind it — at the visible level of the United States and Europe, at more hidden — with bank capital, at even more hidden — “figures without faces and back” —is difficult to justify, but can be explained. This is evidence that Russia has not yet gained strength after the 1991 “geopolitical catastrophe” - neither military, nor economic, nor moral-moral .. And this means only one thing: we must become strong. And not “once”, but in the near future. Today. Now. The faster the better. The only way here is “the state of labor”, “the state of general mobilization”.

Yes, for now the enemy is really stronger. And there is only one way out for us: to dissociate himself from him as much as possible, including getting rid of “euro-dependence” - there will be sanctions, or there will be none. Honestly, if it does not, so much the better: “Thunder will not break, the peasant will not cross.” “We need Europe for ten years, and then we will turn our back on it” (attributed to Peter the Great). We have no “ten years” - we will endure. We will build a military and “gas” alliance with China (realizing that this is also temporary), create new generations of super-weapons and prepare for an already large test of strength. “Relaxation” - first of all in the very way of life - of the last decades, and, in fact, begun in the fifties of the last century, after the Twentieth Congress, must be put an end to.

In fact, the internal basis - in the conditions of Russia (in the West it is not) - the collapse and disintegration, first of all, of consciousness is the concept of “human rights” that was recited in the late eighties, first into our legal ideology, and then into the legal system. Rights without obligations.

The prominent Russian theorist of law NN Alekseev (1879 — 1964) speaks of “legal obligations” as follows: “An internal, organic combination of rights and obligations. In it the right, so to speak, is imbued with duty and duty with law. In the place of a separate law from a duty and a separate duty from a right, it turns out what could best be called the Russian word legal duty. Some representatives of the organic school in Germany taught about such a combination, in Russia we were Slavophiles, Dostoevsky meant it, about which the late PI I. Novgorodtsev, leaning towards the same views, wrote. S.L. Frank understands him when he says that "no human right has immanent moral force" ”

Of course, different depth levels are also possible here. At the same time, according to Alekseev, the ideal case is this: “On one side, one-sided positive duties on the other side can correspond to rights obligations. The ideal case of such a relationship could be that unlimited monarch, who would consider his power not as a right, but as a duty towards his subjects, as serving them. This would correspond to the ideal concepts of monarchy that Slavophiles or some Moscow Rus journalists had. Such a concept of monarchy is developed by the Chinese theory of the state, especially the school of Confucius, etc. ”

“It is clear, Alekseev explains, that the combination is conceivable only in positive, not in negative relations: for the very idea of ​​legal responsibility includes the idea of ​​some positively directed activity.”

For today's Russia, a “positively directed activity” can only be a preparation for finding and acquiring our natural borders - from the Carpathians to the Pacific Ocean, from the North Pole to Tibet and the Himalayas, and then protecting these borders. These are activities similar to the Soviet 30 industrialization. , although on a completely different ideological basis: the focus is not on the book-set “ideal”, but on the real “life power” as it is. A.G. Dugin writes: “Today, Russia is no longer burdened with a fatally false ideology: neither Soviet, nor liberal, nor imperialist. Therefore, the new battles of Russia make it possible to see its original spiritual essence clearly and almost without hindrances and additions. Russians today are just Russians as they are. And this opens up the possibility of a direct and unhindered work of the spirit of the Holy Spirit through our churchliness, the national spirit through our actions, the sovereign spirit through our power and the figure of a ruler. "

N.N. Alekseev bases his understanding of the Russian system of legal obligations on the basis of VO Klyuchevsky’s statement: “In other countries we know the state order based on the combination of class rights with class duties, on the concentration of rights in some classes and duties in others. The political order in the Moscow state was based on a layout between all classes only of duties not connected with rights. True, the duties were connected with unequal benefits, but these benefits were not estate rights, but only economic benefits for the performance of duties. The relation of duties to these benefits in the Moscow state was inversely to that which existed in other states between duties and rights: there the former emerged from the latter as their effects; here, on the contrary, the benefits were the political consequences of state duties (V. Klyuchevsky. "History classes in Russia ", M., 1886, p. 110)" And Alekseev specifies: "It would be more correct, perhaps, to say that in the life of the Muscovite state that organic principle of legal responsibility, of which we spoke above, prevailed. And they were painted not only public, but also private life. ”

This is extremely important: “not only public, but also private life”.

That is, Moscow Russia was a state of labor, a state of workers. More precisely, workers and warriors. Plus monks, ascetics, "sovereign pilgrims."

Note that all this was written in the thirties of the last century: “We are convinced that in this direction is the resolution of the Russian revolutionary process. And this resolution can be achieved through creative efforts, and not as a result of a combination of elemental forces. Such a resolution would mean that we thus entered upon the basis of the development of the features of our history — the soil of our historical cultural traditions. At the same time, our modern “Westerners”, starting with the socialists and ending with monarchists, sympathize with the awakened revolution of the bourgeois elements and believe that they will succeed in building the Russian world by the type of property owners who have agreed on two laws: “don't touch me” and "do ut des" "And - the most important clarification:" In order to avoid misunderstandings, we want to emphasize that the organism of labor demotia is not given at all, but is set in the modern Russian process. " (N.N. Alekseev)

One way or another, the “Russian process” was not interrupted, while the “bourgeois element” personally witnessed its complete inconsistency. This, of course, does not mean that the state of labor should be built according to initially false, and even outdated, “Marxist-Leninist” recipes. The motivation should not be ideological and ideological, but flow out of the “primordial spiritual essence” “without hindrances and additions” - “Russians today are just Russians as they are”. “We are Russian, God is with us!” - this, Suvorov, is the only thing for which we will fight and work to feed those who fight. Strictly as the “armed Great Russia”, “pseudo-state” (V.O. Klyuchevsky) was arranged when the Moscow kingdom of the XV-XVI centuries fought both in the West and in the East.

Important considerations under the heading “Modernization of Russia will not start in 2015” were published by well-known publicist V. I. Skurlatov: “Deliberately blocking the over-modernized modernization of the Russian Federation is a state crime. With a whistle in front of our eyes, Communist China has overtaken us in all respects, India and Brazil, once sculpted, are successfully modernizing. For the modernization breakthrough, mobilization of the productive forces of the people is necessary, which implies the elimination of idleness as the mother of all vices and relaxation. We, Russians, are so far behind the advanced countries that we have to strain ourselves to overtake. Only hard work makes people free, as hard training makes an athlete a champion. Therefore, idle days should be minimized, 6 should work days a week, extra holidays should be abandoned and only 1 of January (New Year), 1 of May (Labor Day) and 1 of September (Knowledge Day) should be left. And you need to work not 8 hours a day, and 11. And leave reduced to two weeks. And increase the retirement age for both men and women to 70 years. I look at the calendar of holidays and weekends in the upcoming 2015 year - again wrecking two-week winter “holidays”, again all kinds of unnecessary holidays, especially in May, not to mention Saturdays, etc. As you can see, a malicious relaxation is planned, no lumen is visible. So the nations leave history. ”

In principle, this is true. But not all.

It should primarily be about the restructuring of consciousness itself, the attitude to work itself, and not about the "company to strengthen labor discipline" of the type of "Andropov". Moreover, whether we like it or not, the nature of the main technologies today is completely different than it was under Yu.V. Andropov. The “information society” is, whether we like it or not, the same goes for “nanotechnologies” (completely independent of the existence or non-existence of Chubais).

Today, labor cannot be reduced to "staying at work" - if it is, of course, not an army, not the military-industrial complex, not high-precision production, not heavy industry, not medicine. This is the absence of doctors at work, even on weekends, and even more so during this most “wrecking holiday”, and especially in today's extreme times, in a blatant manner.

But, for example, for fundamental science (theoreticism, mathematics, even design), "labor discipline" is sometimes harmful. In such areas, discoveries - even today - are made “on the loft”. ​​But without basic science, there is no military-industrial complex or high-precision production.

То же самое касается и многих других областей, искусства, «Когда говорят пушки, музы молчат». Но тоже не всегда. Шостакович писал «Ленинградскую симфонию», а Леонов - «Русский лес».

Often the daily “presence at work” is not work, but idleness. This applies primarily to "office plankton". This category of “workers” should simply be drastically reduced and redeployed into the real sector, incl. in agriculture. In this regard, Herman Sterligov has very reasonable ideas (although his own hatred for the science necessary for the defense of the country is suspicious).

A real small and medium private business, educational institutions — everything that is not directly related to industry and defense — can set their own internal rules for themselves.

What should be tough to do away with is a cult of entertainment. This means, above all, a drastic reduction in show business and the "glamor industry" (with reprofiling, including forced), but with the preservation and decent financing of book publishing, film studios, philharmonic society, etc. The same applies to the spectacular sport and, again, its redeployment towards mass popular and military-folk physical culture - like the Patriot center in Kubinka, recently created and opened by Defense Minister S. Shoigu.

The question of the retirement age should also be approached differentially. The “state of general mobilization” cannot but be a social state, and a social state in any case is based on mercy for the aged. Therefore, it is impossible to agree with V.I. Skurlatov.

But what is impossible to disagree with is what it is. All multi-day holidays, really wrecking - yes, down with.

The same applies to the Sabbath as a day off. In the prewar and military conditions, the six-day work week is obligatory. Saturday should be a working day.

As for the holidays, big amendments are needed here. Labor mobilization will take place only if the religious traditions of the state-forming Russian people and other indigenous peoples of Russia are fully taken into account, as well as the customs that have developed during the last decades (primarily after World War II). Therefore, compulsory holidays should be Easter (although this is also Sunday), the Nativity of Christ and Victory Day. Next, you need a "flexible schedule" of holidays and weekends. For the New Year it would be correct to choose from the choice - January 1, January 14 or September 14 (church indication). The Twelve or “Soviet” -professional holidays can be set individually or by labor collectives - in agreement with the administration.

Muslims can also be given several free days on their main holidays, but they have to work on Easter and Deity. Similarly, Buddhists and representatives of the peoples of the North, as well as Russian Rodnovers. One way or another, Yvidei living in Russia should have the right not to work on Saturday, replacing it with a working day on Sundays.

The system of vacations should be just as flexible. Perhaps in an emergency military situation they will have to be abandoned altogether. But in periods of easing tensions, they should be. In heavy industry, the military industrial complex, medicine - yes, two weeks. In agriculture, fishing, etc. vacation schedule - seasonal, depending on the annual range of nature and agricultural work. Also, of course, universal military training of the population at the place of residence and work should be organized. For women - mainly military-medical. It is absolutely necessary.

At the same time, it is necessary to bear in mind serious amendments to this general scheme, which are expressed not by the guardians of idleness. So, the blogger arsenikum objects (in abbreviation): “It’s impossible to put an ordinary person in this mode if it is really a job (even with idle times it is exhausting). At the same time, if we proceed from the fact that our conditional worker does not run with a wheelbarrow (this is necessary except for ritual purposes), but works where you need to apply your head (at least on relatively complex machines), in this case 11 watch worker the day is simply wrecking (injuries and accidents will increase). A pension in 70 years in this situation is such a sarcasm, they will not survive ... Right, you see, someone would write a program that would combine the use of ethnopsychological features (the use of "emergency bursts of activity", "artel spirit", etc.) with a temporary
mobilization, limited inspirational idea, and in combination with mechanization and other high technologies ... Well, any mobilization must be limited either in time or (and this is more correct) in goals. Institutionalized, like permanent mobilization, will degenerate from bad people into formalism and imitation of vigorous activity; in good people it will cause a new tide of hopelessness. Moreover, I fully understand that a "demobilized" society is always aesthetically and ethically disgusting, but "if you always pull the string, it will just tear" ... "

I must say, thoughts are quite reasonable. In any case, first of all, where it is a question of “using ethnopsychological features (“ emergency rush of activity ”,“ artel spirit ”, etc.) with“ temporary (this is debatable! —V.K.) mobilization limited by inspiring an idea. " (http://karpets.livejournal.com/1366715.html#comments)

What is this idea (or rather, not an idea, but a spirit), it was said above.

Naturally, the question arises about employers and forms of ownership. In principle, of course, it will be possible to solve it more or less definitively (just like the question of the type of government and forms of self-government) only after passing through the band of tests and tests that we are passing today, and the end of which is not yet visible. But in general, you can say so. Those representatives and leaders of large-scale are not talking about small and medium-sized, everything is obvious here, it cannot be interfered with — the private sector, who are ready to go for self-restraint and participation in the common cause, must retain theirs. They will undoubtedly have participation in the future of Russia. This applies even to those who received property in 90, not quite (to put it mildly) honestly - they can thereby atone for the past. Conscious compradors should be removed (best of all, if they just voluntarily leave), and their enterprises are nationalized. Not in the name of an abstract idea, but for the sake of survival and the victory of Russia.
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  1. master 84
    master 84 19 August 2014 18: 45
    +9
    Russians have always been and will be hardworking
    1. portoc65
      portoc65 19 August 2014 18: 55
      -46
      Why is that? Clever agree .. but not hardworking.
      1. MSA
        MSA 19 August 2014 18: 59
        +23
        The Russian people are not very spoiled + hardworking and inventive, but no one has such patriotism
        1. WKS
          WKS 19 August 2014 22: 35
          +8
          The article was written very vaguely, some pseudo-socialist ideas, reminiscent of the works of the Utopians, Campanella in particular. Social production cannot be driven into a utopian framework.
          1. dzau
            dzau 20 August 2014 01: 24
            +5
            Quote: wks
            The article was written very vaguely, some pseudo-socialist ideas, reminiscent of the works of the Utopians

            Demagogy, not an article. Diluted with water.

            The author in his life did not stand behind the machine, did not go down into the mine, and did not fill the road.

            As if, damn it, we all spent decades decoying pears, not working. And here comes a creature, all in white and clean, to push the words about hard work. And some oligarchs who have something to save for good behavior.

            In Dachau's author, a transport trolley.
          2. DMB-88
            DMB-88 20 August 2014 02: 27
            +16
            Quote: wks
            The article was written very vaguely, some pseudo-socialist ideas, reminiscent of the works of the Utopians,


            The article is really strange ..., work for 11 hours? but for what? carefully read everything at the moment komenty almost everywhere the topic of fair work or work for your family, car and to see the world.
            A short trip to the USSR ...
            I entered the institute, served in the USSR Armed Forces, restored to the university and after graduation worked at a defense plant. First, a master salary of 220 rubles. + 40% bonus. And here is the acquaintance with the Man of Labor! At the site of 4 brigades, all already experienced hardened uncles are hard workers. It's scary to lead them! Service in the Armed Forces taught to collectivism, did not throw himself too much, cheated with the rationers and the team accepted. It was interesting to learn production from the inside, not in the university, but first from the very beginning. The smartest people are workers, the proletariat, so to speak. there were a lot of ideas to increase labor productivity and, accordingly, z.p. They drew, calculated together, and as a result, ratsuhi were obtained, which actually increased productivity, respectively, received bonuses for rational proposals. There were turners, millers, locksmiths who worked on the 6th category (whoever understands the topic, they could really shoe a flea) and wp. received, respectively, from 300 to 350 rubles, huge for those times money (this is the question of equalization) and all the workers aspired to this, studied, adopted experience! They were called respectfully: the young by the name of the patronymic, who were older addressed "Mifodich", "Nikiforich ". Already working as a designer in the department, we went to their grandfathers for advice on how best to" adapt ", and" primastryt "and after all, brilliant things were obtained that still fly, shoot without fail ... thanks to the work of the entire team of the plant, workers, technologists , engineers, designers (again, not only for money, but mostly for ideals, for the Motherland)! (where are they now?) Why am I?
            Without the revival of the Labor Man-Proletariat and unconditionally Respectful attitude towards him (both from a social point of view and from a financial point of view), neither a leap nor a jerk are possible !!! In the current socio-political system, the prospect of a resurgence of the Proletariat and the working intelligentsia seems highly doubtful, which means there will be no industry or collective agriculture, but there will always be a greater dependence on the export of raw materials and hydrocarbons and the import of everything and everything ..., and there can be no talk of any mobilization system in the country !!!
            The state cannot be called Great, being engaged in the wild sale of natural resources and the resale of Chinese consumer goods to each other!
            Here on a branch one "tipok" recommends checking all the comments for "rocking the boat" ... well, well .....
      2. Renat
        Renat 19 August 2014 19: 00
        +10
        Russians have always been freedom-loving. There were times they were taken prisoner into slavery, but there they did not work a damn.
        1. avia1991
          avia1991 19 August 2014 22: 45
          -6
          Quote: Renat
          but there they didn’t work.

          Exactly! This was the expression of love for freedom: "Today I don't want to work - I WILL NOT! At least kill .." wink
          1. avia1991
            avia1991 20 August 2014 21: 16
            0
            belay Nee-fi-ga, how they messed up! .. laughing Gentlemen "workaholics", you, apparently, only about work and think in life - there is no place for WHOSE! wink
            In general, honestly admit to yourself that it is! We all sooo much value ourselves as workers - but how many of you are also valued by others? Colleagues, bosses? .. Does anyone represent HOW the Chinese, for example, work? Most of us did not stand nearby!
            So .. from my side, it was a joke (if anyone did not understand - I sympathize!), But, as you know, "every joke has a share of a joke!"
        2. Vladimir73
          Vladimir73 20 August 2014 06: 08
          +1
          Quote: Renat
          Russians have always been freedom-loving. There were times they were taken prisoner into slavery, but there they did not work a damn.


          Therefore, they drove them into slavery? That is why Slavic slaves in slave markets were valued?
      3. Finches
        Finches 19 August 2014 19: 37
        +35
        In Pikul from "Unclean Strength:" Russia, even in the darkest times of its history, did not sit idly by ... She beat stones on the pavements and created clever mechanisms; carried sacks of grain on the docks and brought chemical formulas into laboratories; she unloaded ships and dug potatoes; people walked at weddings, gave birth to children and were imprisoned; the Russians wore a splendid tailcoat with equal pride and sang with rusty shackles; the production of the imperial industry increased, and Russia could throw almost everything on the world market - from armadillos to baby nipples "

        And if Russia were not hardworking and not with an inquiring mind, then its borders would be limited to the Garden Ring, and not 1/6 of the land of the entire globe!
      4. Leonidych
        Leonidych 19 August 2014 20: 32
        +5
        and smart and hardworking .... being smart means hardworking and vice versa
        1. tol100v
          tol100v 20 August 2014 01: 14
          0
          Quote: Leonidych
          and smart and hardworking .... being smart means hardworking and vice versa

          Your truth Leonidych, but not always, unfortunately!
      5. Vitaly72
        Vitaly72 19 August 2014 20: 48
        0
        is it you from the portuguese bell tower?
      6. nerd.su
        nerd.su 19 August 2014 21: 45
        0
        Quote: portoc65
        Why is that? Clever agree .. but not hardworking.

        It was not you who wrote in your school essay: "The Slavs were a freedom-loving people. They were often driven into slavery, but they did not work there either"? laughing For this, they took to work in Europe, probably ...
      7. Ribwort
        Ribwort 19 August 2014 21: 46
        +1
        Quote: portoc65
        Why is that? Clever agree .. but not hardworking.

        And what are the cons? I agree with you. This character trait is reflected even in folk tales. Remember "By the Pike's Command" or a self-assembled tablecloth ... And proverbs and sayings? So, resourceful - yes, inventive - yes, but not hardworking. In addition, laziness is the engine of progress. And how many inventors were there in Russia ...)
        1. Yura
          Yura 20 August 2014 00: 13
          +3
          Quote: Ribwort
          This character trait is reflected even in folk tales.

          And I do not agree with this, "By the dictates of a pike" or a self-assembled tablecloth ... "is the dream of those who, after the hard labor, on bread and water.
      8. Naum
        Naum 19 August 2014 22: 19
        +10
        Russians are hardworking, but only when they see justice in the reward for their work. And if "you want to work, but you want to spit - you will still get a hit", then the meaning of honestly and a lot of work disappears. My grandmother (born in 1906, a simple peasant woman) raised 3 children alone (my grandfather did not return from the war) during the slave-collective farm time. I remembered: “I’ll come home from the field in the evening - I need to wash and cook. And if the moon is shining, then I’m still drinking potatoes in the garden. I didn’t go to bed in the house - only on the door sill. I felt that my ear ached, so it’s time to get up, go to be further ... "
        They worked like damned - otherwise there was no way to survive. And they lived until 80-90 years. Now the time is different, such a sacrifice is not required. But if necessary ...
      9. not main
        not main 19 August 2014 23: 11
        +3
        Quote: portoc65
        Why is that? Clever agree .. but not hardworking.

        You don’t have to judge people by yourself! Which by the way and do not know!
      10. CALL.
        CALL. 20 August 2014 04: 37
        0
        Quote: portoc65
        Why is that? Clever agree .. but not hardworking.

        Vladimir Medinsky. "Myths about Russia". find and read !!!
    2. zeleznijdorojnik
      zeleznijdorojnik 19 August 2014 18: 59
      +18
      The question is who to work for. We live under Sovvlast appeal
      you have to work 6 days a week, you have to give up unnecessary holidays and leave only January 1 (New Year), May 1 (Labor Day) and September 1 (Knowledge Day). And you need to work not 8 hours a day, but 11. And leave the vacation to two weeks. And raise the retirement age for both men and women to 70
      would meet with joy. But in a private company ... on my uncle ... Even here - on the forum, among us - a comrade with the nickname "Kisly" - an exploiter who will be in favor of such an offer with both hands. You need at least partial nationalization - and then you can include a 6-day day.
      1. provlad1
        provlad1 19 August 2014 20: 49
        +12
        I completely agree that without the nationalization of the defense, heavy, oil and gas processing industry, nothing will work
        1. tol100v
          tol100v 19 August 2014 22: 04
          +2
          Quote: provlad1
          without nationalization of the defense, heavy, oil and gas processing industry, nothing will work

          No, nationalization, as such, will not help now, but the percentage contribution of private capital to the country's defense must be increased in TROE! Who does not agree, then nationalization, without the right to correspond!
      2. Bayonet
        Bayonet 19 August 2014 20: 54
        0
        Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
        The question is who to work for.

        Weird question. First of all, for yourself, for your family. Are you not getting a salary or you do not need it?
        1. tol100v
          tol100v 19 August 2014 22: 07
          +3
          Quote: Bayonet
          Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
          The question is who to work for.
          Weird question

          You got two things wrong: for whom and for whom to work !!
    3. Giant thought
      Giant thought 19 August 2014 19: 07
      -1
      In any economic formations, there is one unshakable principle: the more you work, the better you live. At this historical moment in Russia, we are resting too much, we have a lot of public holidays, we need to significantly reduce them, and we also need to deal with parasites, otherwise people do not work, but they drink bitter every day, which itself yourself an abnormal phenomenon.
      1. Strezhevsky
        Strezhevsky 19 August 2014 20: 01
        +8
        Quote: Giant thought
        In any economic formations, there is one unshakable principle: the more you work, the better you live. At this historical moment in Russia, we are resting too much, we have a lot of public holidays, we need to significantly reduce them, and we also need to deal with parasites, otherwise people do not work, but they drink bitter every day, which itself yourself an abnormal phenomenon.

        Direct program maximum according to Prokhorov !!!! It is moderately useful, but the main thing is not to overstrain yourself like the USA.
        1. 23 region
          23 region 19 August 2014 20: 48
          +10
          Quote: Strezhevsky
          Direct program maximum according to Prokhorov !!!!

          Let’s immediately assign the workers to the factory, without the right to transfer (well, only if on Yuryev’s day) Paid education after 8th grade, the rest on the agenda in vocational schools (after all, we do not have enough skilled workers), a delay of more than 20 minutes is a deadline. Well, you can still revive LTP (let alcoholics and parasites work at a construction site of a national household for a bowl of noodles). Well, as the apotheosis - the Gulag.
          PS. Well, collective farms are necessary. (Collect passports from collective farmers, enter workdays)
          1. provlad1
            provlad1 19 August 2014 20: 54
            +1
            The Gulag with passports for collective farmers is useless, but otherwise, the nuts should be screwed up.
      2. sledgehammer
        sledgehammer 19 August 2014 20: 07
        +16
        under the capitalist system, this is not always the case. some work a little and are of little use, but there are those who simply ride a foreign car in clean clothes or sit in the office, and get 5-10 times more than the one who works hard at two jobs.
        the fairest system was in the USSR, where there was the so-called leveling, there were neither poor nor rich.
        1. zeleznijdorojnik
          zeleznijdorojnik 19 August 2014 20: 35
          +8
          There was only one problem - when leveling off, loafers also received money comparable to a normal worker (we do not take advanced workers into account - there is different money and a different incentive). And when they see that for half a day you can read a book and get the same, they will read a book ...
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 19 August 2014 21: 17
            +3
            Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
            There was one problem - when leveling, loafers also received money,

            Not always, officials could have this, as well as those who were on salaries. But with the "piecework" you can’t suck, there were production rates and if you didn’t work out the rate, you’ll get accordingly less. If we take agriculture, then there the majority received from production - you will do more, you will get more (especially, those who worked in the field).
            1. Raven1972
              Raven1972 19 August 2014 22: 10
              +3
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              like those who were on salary

              You can also sit differently on salary hi For example, in the promelectronics brigade (they serviced the compressor, refrigeration, hydrogen-oxygen, industrial wastewater treatment plants, recycling workshops, galvanic and cylinder storage (gas analyzers)) there was no time to sit and read ... hi Before starting, you’ll definitely come and check 100500 times and set everything up so that tomorrow you can set off without problems, and so on. free time - repairing control boards, drives, etc. machinery - what is out of order ...
          2. vovan1949
            vovan1949 19 August 2014 22: 02
            +12
            "the more you work, the better you live"

            Nonsense !!! 100% false. The payment system in the USSR was much fairer than it is now. More or less the principle "from each according to his ability - to each according to his work" was observed. He himself lived in the USSR for 40 years and passed it all. Anyone, I repeat, any person had a choice of where and who to go to work. The head worked, go learn, and for free. Tight with the brains - work, and choose a profession at will: if you want to get more, go to piecework wages and more difficult and harmful work, if you want to work without straining too much (now this is basically how they work) - look for work with time wages or with salary. There was no leveling, I don't know who invented it. But now the salary does not depend on the intensity and harmfulness of labor. Now there is really an equalization. There is no incentive to increase labor productivity. No matter how you work, the salary does not depend on it.
          3. tol100v
            tol100v 19 August 2014 22: 10
            +1
            Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
            will read a book ...

            And now nobody takes a book in their hands!
          4. vovan1949
            vovan1949 19 August 2014 22: 16
            +4
            “There was only one problem - when leveling, idlers also received money comparable to a normal worker (we don't take the leading workers into account - there is different money and a different incentive). And when they see that they can read a book for half a day and get the same, they will read book

            False. This, at least on a significant scale, was not. Why invent it? There was no such problem, dear railwayman. Do not write for the stars
        2. Vitaly72
          Vitaly72 19 August 2014 20: 53
          +2
          right ! MIDDLE CLASS -was hegemonic, so to speak
      3. koshh
        koshh 19 August 2014 22: 09
        +1
        Quote: Thought Giant
        otherwise people don’t work, but they drink bitter every day, which in itself is an abnormal phenomenon.


        Especially in villages where the population was deprived of work. In cities closed enterprises, sometimes city-forming. So they drink from hopelessness. And no longer to work ...
      4. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 19 August 2014 22: 10
        +1
        Indeed, overdone with the holidays. We sat with the men, thought, correlated with the work schedules, and drew our schedule, and holidays, and vacations. And nothing, everyone is happy, the salaries are stable, and we have 30% less holidays on our schedule.
      5. felix34
        felix34 19 August 2014 22: 54
        -2
        TO THE GIANT OF THOUGHTS - grandfather. This is REALLY SO! And this is WELL KNOWN to the authorities, because there are plenty of indicators that we work in the bulk, low-skilled, low-quality. And that we rest a lot. Compare the organization of work, its quality, as well as the length of days of vacations, holidays, etc. in Russia and in countries such as Japan, Rep. Korea or, finally, China - everything will become clear! Or truly "professorial" qualifications of German workers (with appropriate pay!) With a considerable number of our laborers, whose main "accurate tool" is the "sledgehammer". We need to take our work more seriously.
      6. 38g126
        38g126 20 August 2014 01: 13
        0
        And everything is very simple, nowadays most people simply do not want to work. The 90s completely killed all the desire to work in young people. There is still an opinion that work at the factory "sucks". Lack of a clearly expressed ideology. Lack of tasks and goals. . Well, plus the massive alcoholization of the country.
    4. armageddon
      armageddon 19 August 2014 19: 13
      +4
      Hmm ... I believe Russia will still show what it is capable of !!! And the Russian people will take their rightful place !!!
    5. Civil
      Civil 19 August 2014 19: 35
      +13
      there are such concepts:
      1. Formal logic.
      2. Common sense.

      And pouring into the ears and eyes another way to cheat is not necessary! Everyone has one life, and if anyone there wants to again drive everyone into labor camps WITHOUT Fault and, accordingly, payment, the path to the death of Russia.

      The indecisiveness of the leadership of our country in the face of the Kiev junta and non-world forces - at the visible level by the USA and Europe, on the more hidden - by bank capital, on the more hidden - "figures without faces and spin" - is difficult to justify, but can be explained

      Putin is quite decisive. And trying to drive a country into a world war is worse than stupidity is a call to destruction!
      We will build a military and "gas" alliance with China (realizing that this is also temporary)

      That is, the Chinese are fools? Why should people lie?
      create new generations of superweapons and prepare for an already large test of strength

      That is, to organize an arms race 2, for the sake of "keeping up the strength"?

      Legal obligations on one side may correspond to unilateral positive obligations on the other. The ideal case of such a relationship could be that unlimited monarch who would not consider his power as a right, but also as a duty to his subjects, as a service to them.

      Do you think nothing in the world has tempered absolute monarchies? Millions of Russians said no to tyrants during the Civil War. They knew why, but you are all smarter.

      For today's Russia, the "positive direction" can only be the preparation for the acquisition and the acquisition of our natural borders - from the Carpathians to the Pacific Ocean, from the North Pole to Tibet and the Himalayas, and then the protection of these borders

      Do the peoples who inhabit these territories agree? Or how Bandera do not consider the people of Donbass as people?

      With a whistle in front of our eyes, Communist China overtook us in all respects, India and Brazil, once snuffled, are being successfully modernized. For the modernization spurt, it is necessary to mobilize the productive forces of the people, which implies the elimination of idleness as the mother of all vices and relaxation


      they invested in their production and discarded the nonsense that the author bears. That is, the author suggests closing all TV channels, restaurants, clubs, summer and garden cooperatives, in order to ... so that someone would enjoy Russia not as a flourishing country, but as a fighter for his entertainment.

      Moreover, this entire article needs to be checked for calls for a change in the constitutional order!
      Build your military dictatorship in another country!
      1. Evilcat
        Evilcat 19 August 2014 19: 52
        +8
        Quote: Civil
        Moreover, this entire article needs to be checked for calls for a change in the constitutional order! Build your military dictatorship in another country!

        It’s hard to argue with you, and there’s no reason to. They said everything correctly!
      2. 23 region
        23 region 19 August 2014 21: 09
        0
        Quote: Civil
        Build your military dictatorship in another country!

        In order to make it difficult for workers to move from one enterprise to another, on December 20, the Council of People's Commissars adopted a resolution "On the introduction of work books."
        Stalin borrowed the idea of ​​labor books from Hitler, who introduced them back in 1934. The difference between German and Soviet work books was that the latter indicated the reason for the worker to leave the enterprise, which often made it difficult to get another job.
        The same decree introduced another punitive measure - dismissal from work for four delays within two months. At the same time delays were equal delays in the factory canteens. Given that lunch breaks were reduced from 45 minutes to 20-30.
        To curtail the right of women workers and employees to maternity leave in the amount of 56 days before delivery and the same number of days after delivery. "Letters of workers", placed in "Pravda", assured that "the law on maternity leave was approved many years ago" and "outdated"
        The sickness benefit was also cut. It was issued from now on, in the amount of 100%, only to those who had worked at one enterprise for more than 6 years.
        1. 23 region
          23 region 19 August 2014 21: 15
          +2
          On October 800, the Decree "On the State Labor Reserves of the USSR" was adopted, which introduced the mobilization of young people in vocational schools and schools of factory training. The Council of People's Commissars was given the right to annually call from 1 thousand to 8 million male adolescents for compulsory vocational training. Since students in grades 10-XNUMX were exempted from conscription, it almost exclusively affected children from poor families.

          On December 28, another Decree introduced criminal liability for students of vocational, railway schools and FZO schools for violation of discipline and for unauthorized withdrawal from a school (school), up to and including imprisonment for up to a year.
          Well and lastly:
          In the Law, adopted in 1933, for petty theft in production, not a court was provided, but an administrative penalty or dismissal from production. Taking advantage of this, workers deliberately practice petty theft in order to be fired from the enterprise. For example, worker Mitrofanov, stealing 5 meters of goods, said: "I stole because I asked to be fired, but I am not fired. If you do not fire me, I will steal another 20 meters" [17]. At textile factories, cases have become more frequent when female workers, leaving the factory, demonstratively show half a meter of the taken manufactory at the entrance in order to be noticed and they were fired for petty theft
          1. 23 region
            23 region 19 August 2014 21: 17
            -1
            "Our trade unions have corrupted the workers. This is not a school of communism, but a school of grabbers. Trade unions incite workers against leaders and indulge selfish, dependent tendencies. Why workers in capitalist countries can work for capitalists for 10-12 hours (a working day of such length has not existed for a long time in developed capitalist countries, and our workers have to work 7 hours for their native state? .. We made a big mistake when we introduced a 7-hour working day ... Now is the time when it is necessary to call upon workers to sacrifice and introduce an 8-hour working day without an increase in payment "I. STALIN.
            1. nerd.su
              nerd.su 19 August 2014 21: 42
              +5
              Quote: Region 23
              Now is the time when it is necessary to call upon the workers to sacrifice and introduce an 8-hour working day without raising wages "I. STALIN

              Give a link to the source. Hope this is from Stalin's collected works? Or still, what thread is SALZHenitsin again?
              1. 23 region
                23 region 20 August 2014 01: 15
                0
                Quote: bot.su
                Give a link to the source. Hope this is from Stalin's collected works? Or still, what thread is SALZHenitsin again?

                The issue of a sharp tightening of labor legislation was raised on June 19, 1940 by Stalin in the circle of his closest circle. As is clear from the diary entries of V.A.Malyshev, Stalin raised the issue of introducing harsh repressive measures to combat fluidity. "After a rather heated debate, Comrade Stalin proposed to issue a law prohibiting unauthorized transfers of workers and employees from enterprise to enterprise, adding:" And those who violate this law must be imprisoned. "
                Source. 1997. No 5. S. 112
                1. nerd.su
                  nerd.su 20 August 2014 19: 58
                  0
                  I say - another "withfalsenitsyn ".
                  The original source would be Malyshev's diary, and your original source is just a quote taken out of context.
                  The tightening was associated with the outbreak of World War II. Production discipline was strengthened, in the conditions of pre-war time - this is normal.
                  By the way, after the war, with the end of the recovery period, all these stiffnesses were canceled.
            2. shasherin.pavel
              shasherin.pavel 19 August 2014 22: 15
              +1
              Quote: Region 23
              a working day of such a long time did not exist in the developed capitalist countries

              Then clarify this point: which countries were considered capitalistically developed?
              Are UK colonies considered capitalistically developed? Colonies of France? And they forgot to indicate the year when this decree came out.
              1. 23 region
                23 region 20 August 2014 01: 18
                0
                Quote: shasherin.pavel
                Quote: Region 23
                a working day of such a long time did not exist in the developed capitalist countries

                Then clarify this point: which countries were considered capitalistically developed?
                Are UK colonies considered capitalistically developed? Colonies of France? And they forgot to indicate the year when this decree came out.

                Stalin's proposals were formally put forward on June 26, 1940, in an address by the All-Union Central Council of Trade Unions to workers and employees. The next day, the Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of June 26 "On the transition to an 8-hour working day, to a 7-day working week and on the prohibition of unauthorized departure of workers and employees from enterprises and institutions" was promulgated.
                But the colonies, if you consider them developed capitalist, is your right.
      3. jPilot
        jPilot 20 August 2014 00: 11
        +4
        I completely agree with the article a definite minus, under the conditions that the author suggests, the country will explode in a matter of years. It was because of such thinkers and tighteners that the USSR collapsed, and the West didn’t really have to strain, they just showed that it is possible to live freer and better. And to raise the country you need: a REAL fight against corruption at all levels, oblige businesses and managers to budget articles for improving and improving the quality of production, stimulating agricultural enterprises, restoring (creating) an institute of quality control of products, state assistance in the development of science, introduce significant incentive measures for inventions and rationalization proposals, restore the institution of extracurricular education to return FREE technical circles and sports sections, introduce monitoring of salaries and their compliance with international standards at similar enterprises, again according to the quality of products, development of the tourism business ...... And believe me the country will explode in its development so that no one will catch up, and on the account of the fact that the Russian lazy is complete rubbish, give an incentive and any person will work well and efficiently.
        Now, in the majority, simple hard workers, at least work well, at least the plant doesn’t get any worse, and where they are cutting back despite the price increase.
        In addition, the US Department of State must be destroyed
      4. DMB-88
        DMB-88 20 August 2014 02: 45
        0
        Quote: Civil
        Moreover, this entire article needs to be checked for calls for a change in the constitutional order!


        All parties registered in the Russian Federation have a clause in their programs on coming to power, with all that it implies ....
        Can they be banned? What do you think?
        and the winged "A thief should be in prison", and if this "thief" is a high-ranking person, then this quote is an incitement to statehood and for this, a shooting, right?
        and swing the boat nizzyayayayaya !!! and more than three are not going to! and drink only together, to know who gave !!))))
        Generally complete KIN-DZA-DZA !!!
        1. dmb
          dmb 20 August 2014 09: 03
          +1
          And it seems to me that you shouldn't have driven into "Civil". Even from this comment, it is clear your attitude to the ideas of the author and others like him. "Civil" says the same thing. Of course, if you check something, not the article, but the author himself and not the "department for the protection of the Constitution", but doctors ... of course, until the author with the same as he begins to implement his ideas into reality. Gloom-Grumblev is resting.
  2. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 19 August 2014 18: 48
    +21
    topic: grated-grated! work! work!! work!!! And where? in Karaganda? ask the members of the forum how many enterprises in their city were ruined? and defense? in the country, a wild figure will work! Where to work ???
    1. portoc65
      portoc65 19 August 2014 18: 58
      +4
      We don’t need the sun, we shine the party .. we don’t need the grain, let’s work .. from the times .. who doesn’t work, they will plant ...
    2. strannik595
      strannik595 19 August 2014 19: 00
      +4
      Where to work ???
      Those who want to earn money are looking for opportunities, but not those who want to find reasons .......... if you approach the matter calmly, thoughtfully and energetically - you can find a job in life ........ even in a distant village
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 19 August 2014 19: 08
        +5
        Quote: strannik595
        Where to work ???
        Those who want to earn money are looking for opportunities, but not those who want to find reasons .......... if you approach the matter calmly, thoughtfully and energetically - you can find a job in life ........ even in a distant village

        raise the country's defenses ??? wassat
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 19 August 2014 19: 24
        +16
        Quote: strannik595
        Those who want to earn money are looking for opportunities, but not those who want to seek reasons.
        Not everyone is given the head to work. And those who work with their hands on s / n are pricked by everyone and sundry, including the state. Our society is not built correctly, e, effective managers earn hundreds of times more than the most armwit turner or locksmith. It is not right.
        1. Oldwiser
          Oldwiser 19 August 2014 21: 08
          -7
          compare level of responsibility
          1. Vitaly72
            Vitaly72 19 August 2014 22: 06
            +9
            When I cook a water pipe or a bodywork (for example, a side member by car), what is my level of responsibility?
          2. shasherin.pavel
            shasherin.pavel 19 August 2014 22: 26
            +3
            Quote: OldWiser
            level of responsibility
            always above all in the switchman. According to the journal entries: "I left the port, I passed through the bay. We ran aground."
      3. koshh
        koshh 19 August 2014 22: 11
        +1
        Quote: strannik595
        you can find a thing in life ........ even in a distant village


        You are right, only, unfortunately, not everyone can "stick with the horn". And you can find a business, only it will not be life, but existence.
      4. 38g126
        38g126 20 August 2014 01: 24
        +1
        That's right. Now, no one is holding anyone's hands. Do what you want. If you have confidence and prospects, then everything will be. As Peter the Great said, "Good luck comes to those who spare no effort."
    3. Bayonet
      Bayonet 19 August 2014 21: 01
      0
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      Where to work ???

      If you lived in Rostov, I would send a couple of newspapers with ads - "REQUIRED". Who wants - does not sit without work!
    4. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 19 August 2014 22: 21
      +8
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      businesses ruined?

      And how many have grabbed themselves a few, who did not strike a finger during the construction of these plants. The oil industry was created by the whole country, and what prices for gasoline are paid now by those who created it? They fight with their citizens like foreigners. If Ukraine owes such money for gas, then is it not we who paid for these free gas supplies for many years with gas prices. All these appeals look more like the cries of the intelligentsia in the rear about "war to the bitter end" in 1916. You fight and we will support you here morally.
  3. saag
    saag 19 August 2014 18: 51
    +6
    "... For the New Year, it would be correct to set the choice - January 1, January 14 or September 14"

    Yes, all three will celebrate, and the old New Year will still be attached to each :-)

    In general, one grotesque of Skurlatov replaces another - the author of the article
    1. Marine One
      Marine One 19 August 2014 19: 08
      +17
      There is generally a wonderful combination of the elderly imperial Karpec and the elderly political confused Skuratov, who did not work for a minute in his life, and hung out on the political side, running between the CPSU, KGB, fascists, democrats, Yeltsin, Zhirinovsky ...

      If the country needs not my current job, experience and education, but laying sleepers 6 days a week, I'm ready to go. Just give me at least heels of these lousy philosophers-patriots-talkers from the editorial office of the toilet list - the newspaper "Zavtra".
  4. Shveps
    Shveps 19 August 2014 18: 54
    +7
    "... Russia still has not gained strength after the" geopolitical catastrophe "of 1991 - neither military, nor economic, nor moral .."

    All is correct. But to become stronger in a given coordinate system, without a fundamental change in the system, with a complete departure from the consumer society, it is problematic to revise the results of privatization.
    "Not in the name of an abstract idea, but for the survival and victory of Russia."
  5. Diver
    Diver 19 August 2014 18: 56
    +14
    And all this so that Abramovich got another yacht, and Makarevich was given another order for stolen music?
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 19 August 2014 21: 09
      -1
      Quote: Diver
      And all this so that Abramovich has another yacht,

      You don’t have to count money in Abramovich’s pocket, but you need to work for yourself and your family!
      1. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 19 August 2014 22: 31
        +2
        Quote: Bayonet
        howl family must work!

        Then you have to work for your family as the US Constitution says: "One hour of work must correspond to the price of one loaf of premium wheat bread."
      2. Andrey from Tver
        Andrey from Tver 20 August 2014 00: 14
        +3
        Quote: Bayonet
        You don’t have to count money in Abramovich’s pocket, but you need to work for yourself and your family!

        Why not count in Abramovich's pocket? After all, they counted Khodorkovsky in his pocket, and came to the conclusion that he was deceiving the state. Some fainting spells have become billionaires in a few years, and I want to figure out at whose expense and with whose help. Yachts, Chelsea, castles in England, booze on the cruiser Aurora, all kinds of Courchevels. I really want to figure out why the high tariffs for housing and communal services, why gasoline is expensive, why the authorities don't care ... Why did they bring vegetables from Europe before, but now it turns out that we can supply ourselves. In whose pockets is the profit? And there is no need to scare you with the impending instability, as well as the fact that "loans in Europe and America will not be given." The thief should be punished as harshly as possible.
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 20 August 2014 06: 10
          -1
          Quote: Andrey from Tver
          And why not count in Abramovich’s pocket?

          There is such an expression - "The toad strangles" - have you heard? This very much hinders many from working and building their own well-being - there is not enough time!
          1. Diver
            Diver 20 August 2014 14: 56
            +1
            Not "Toad" - offensive for the State. For the senselessness of the pursuit of a whole generation "for sausage and life as in the West." This is the problem that interferes with work. I want "My work to flow into the work of my republic", and not into the purchase of a football club by an oligarch.
      3. oracul
        oracul 20 August 2014 08: 56
        0
        No, you have to count the money of such types as Abramovich, who "made" money, not earned. The entrepreneur assumes the risk of organizing his business in order to make a profit. Personally, I have nothing against those who started their business in this way. I know a man who started the production of upholstered furniture with a team of 7 people in the garage. Survived the 2008 crisis. Today, this collective is already 45 people, the enterprise is located in the premises of a once abandoned livestock complex: they have renovated, created excellent conditions (some toilets are worth something). True, now you have to give credit (it is inconceivably expensive for production), but there is a repayment program, the team (met with him) knows about it and understands what it is about. Tired of the horror stories that a business (big man) will run away, take away their money over the hill (is this money theirs?) If they increase the tax burden. Recently, in a story from Azerbaijan, an agrarian complained that buyers take peaches for a pittance (some 20-30 kopecks), while our networkers sell dozens of times more expensive. We have built an unthinkable chain of dealers who make crazy profits. Recently, Karaulov spoke about this situation in his program Moment of Truth. And if he started talking about it, then, as they say, "arrived." The government (with a few exceptions), headed by the prime minister, is engaged in chatter, speaking in modern pseudoscientific language - monitoring. Business must be done, business. Prices are no longer crawling, but are beginning to grow rapidly, and not only for sanctioned goods. That is to say, the costs of network wars. What are the representatives of the president doing on the ground? They are obliged to monitor the situation, and the executive branch - the Government, governors, heads of administrations at all levels - establish order in accordance with the Laws. The trouble with Medvedev is that he doesn't seem to understand this.
      4. Diver
        Diver 20 August 2014 14: 39
        +1
        Why not count? This is money taken from my and your family. All major fortunes are acquired by criminal means - the axiom of our reality. No matter how much you work, the surplus value is not yours, but his. No matter how much you fight in the war, the fruits of his victory. This is unfair and the people feel it. The Ukrainians have already worked for themselves, for their family.
  6. assembly
    assembly 19 August 2014 18: 58
    +16
    Well, yes, you can sprinkle such articles eleven hours a day, six days a week ... and up to 70 years old, probably, it’s also not stressful, I suppose the ass from the chair will not hurt. Interestingly, this hoopoe is physically sometime have worked?..
    1. 23 region
      23 region 19 August 2014 21: 24
      +6
      Quote: sborka
      Well, yes, you can sprinkle such articles eleven hours a day, six days a week ... and up to 70 years old, probably, it’s also not stressful, I suppose the ass from the chair will not hurt. Interestingly, this hoopoe is physically sometime have worked?..

      I think not, otherwise I would not have written such a crap.
  7. Eragon
    Eragon 19 August 2014 19: 01
    +19
    Work 11 hours a day ??? Probably, he who came up with this is not aware that after 5 hours of work, productivity drops by 2 times, that's why they came up with an entire hour of a break. And after 11 hours ... And this is marriage, mistakes, accidents, disasters.
    1. vovan1949
      vovan1949 19 August 2014 22: 29
      +2
      Eragon BY  Today, 19:01


      Work 11 hours a day ??? Probably, who came up with this is not aware that after 5 hours of work, productivity drops by 2 times,

      It is not true, after 5 hours of work (he worked as a welder in the piecework from 1975 to 1989), productivity does not drop at all. By the end of the shift, fatigue appears, but you can work for several hours at the same pace. It all depends on the price. Tested for 14 years. If there is no material interest, productivity will be lower from the first minutes of work.
      1. Grande_amigo
        Grande_amigo 19 August 2014 23: 28
        +4
        it’s not a lie, but the pure truth is that an eight-hour, Dense and Productive, Responsibly spent working day exhausts very well, and the next hours only exacerbate fatigue and its inherent disadvantages (marriage, nonsense ...)
        Well, welding is different for welding: you can grab the reinforcement, but you can also cook pipes under the clearance;) and piecework is the main enemy of quality! and material interest is not in the first place: interest in work, enthusiasm, moral satisfaction stimulate much more.
  8. KBR109
    KBR109 19 August 2014 19: 03
    +16
    And that we already have martial law and "everything for the front, everything for victory"? Why then have they not started to shoot sawmills and bribe-takers yet? We are more likely not a state of labor, but a country of nay..alova, resale and rollback. The author of the article never physically worked and did not hold anything heavier than a pen or a glass in his fingers.
    1. Diver
      Diver 19 August 2014 20: 05
      +4
      I agree in the assessment of the author. Utopian. He doesn’t like the work of smart people, he loves those who can make a five-year plan in three days and go again to drink vodka. And how to make such people work every day, and for the good of the country, Stalin knew, and the author of the article does not even try to concretize something. Vobschem clever not by rank and skill. Not a leader, not a scientist, not a friend and not an enemy, but .....
  9. gav6757
    gav6757 19 August 2014 19: 03
    +4
    Once again raise this topic. Once again I write that Russian people are hard workers! Moreover, the responsibility is not enough, it is!
    Yu.V. Andropov tried to instill in us responsibility for actions - and that was right! This led to an increase in labor productivity, another question - how was it? But...
    But, in general, you need to equal Stalin’s grandfather !!!
    1. Evilcat
      Evilcat 19 August 2014 20: 00
      +4
      Yu.V. Andropov tried to bring to our consciousness that we need responsibility for actions. And this responsibility was instilled by the adherents. At the stations, the documents of the visitors were checked. And for what purpose, dear, did you come to Moscow, Kiev, Leningrad during working hours? I frankly laughed in their faces - I worked then in the defense system and were given an "all-terrain vehicle" on a business trip. Beautiful ksiva with a red stripe. So the station cops were jumping up and down.
      1. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 19 August 2014 20: 36
        +5
        Quote: EvilCat
        that you need responsibility for actions.

        At workplaces they checked if there were any kettles. If there is, then it means they are wasting time. Punish. I don’t remember this on the periphery, but there were rumors that in the cinema they checked why you were in the cinema during working hours. And I had to prove that you have a shift work schedule. But the fact that the teapots were forbidden to keep at work, he himself read the director’s order.
        1. Civil
          Civil 19 August 2014 20: 56
          +6
          Quote: shasherin.pavel
          Quote: EvilCat
          that you need responsibility for actions.

          At workplaces they checked if there were any kettles. If there is, then it means they are wasting time. Punish. I don’t remember this on the periphery, but there were rumors that in the cinema they checked why you were in the cinema during working hours. And I had to prove that you have a shift work schedule. But the fact that the teapots were forbidden to keep at work, he himself read the director’s order.


          And the owners of the companies should immediately be given the armbands of the Sturmfuhrer, as Speer did, what is there to trifle, and on the military - of a late hard worker to the labor front! And the owner of his property as compensation for lost profits!
        2. tol100v
          tol100v 19 August 2014 22: 35
          0
          Quote: shasherin.pavel
          At workplaces they checked if there were any kettles. If there is, then it means they are wasting time. Punish. I don’t remember this on the periphery, but there were rumors that in the cinema they checked why you were in the cinema during working hours. And I had to prove that you have a shift work schedule. But the fact that the teapots were forbidden to keep at work, he himself read the director’s order.
          Yes, it was, and I myself sometimes used "KSIVA" so that obscurantists would have less work!
  10. nikkon09
    nikkon09 19 August 2014 19: 04
    +7
    Well, he turned down ... They already went through this. The villagers took away their passports, let them plow for workdays, keep the workers in a black body, what do you think we’ll build? A strong or slave state? Isn't it better to take a closer look at the experience of the Soviet era, there are a lot of useful best practices.
  11. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 19 August 2014 19: 07
    +9
    The article echoes the election program of the former presidential candidate in Prokhorov, or am I mistaken ???
    1. Strezhevsky
      Strezhevsky 19 August 2014 20: 07
      +5
      Quote: B.T.W.
      The article echoes the election program of the former presidential candidate in Prokhorov, or am I mistaken ???

      Yes, there is still not enough 25-hour working day, with all that it implies.
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 19 August 2014 21: 27
      0
      Quote: B.T.W.
      The article echoes the election program of the former presidential candidate in Prokhorov, or am I mistaken?

      You are mistaken. Prokhorov did not offer such nonsense. His proposal to allow a person to work overtime (if HE WANTS) to earn more - perverted idiots and is now remembered on occasion! This is not possible at our enterprise and the young guys are also working in their second job - I want both a car and better clothes and a better look at the world.
      1. arkady149
        arkady149 19 August 2014 21: 58
        +5
        Quote: Bayonet
        perverted idiots and now commemorate on occasion!

        As a fool, clever: and now, with the current legislative framework, you can work (and we work after all) for 12 and 14 hours, but if 12 becomes the legal norm, try to get your 100% salary. We have the following picture in Engels: you read a vacancy announcement, they promise 30, but then you find out that it’s at 000 hours a day and 12 days a week. How many of us are willing to work long in this mode. After 6 years, I do not think that many will master.
        And according to the article - a lot of reasonings - the mind is not rich, philosophers have degenerated. And if I did not understand the basic, deep message of the article, it means that the author did not bother to clearly state his thoughts and winds up logical loops in order to approve the FAQ.
      2. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 19 August 2014 22: 38
        0
        Quote: Bayonet
        and young guys are also working on their second job

        That’s just this and it shows that wage shortages are higher than the roof. And the prices for cars from the ceiling are taken. Only recently, the quality of automobile industry cars has ceased to be criticized, but in any case, the same Renault Logan at a reasonable price takes care more than our viburnum.
        1. not main
          not main 19 August 2014 23: 43
          +2
          Quote: shasherin.pavel
          Quote: Bayonet
          and young guys are also working on their second job

          That’s just this and it shows that wage shortages are higher than the roof. And the prices for cars from the ceiling are taken. Only recently, the quality of automobile industry cars has ceased to be criticized, but in any case, the same Renault Logan at a reasonable price takes care more than our viburnum.

          I won’t tell you about the viburnum, but I have been driving Gazelles for a long time and the quality of their assembly has increased by an order of magnitude! I can say the same about UAZ! For me, a new Gazelle is better than a 10-year-old foreign car for the same money! Especially if you have to ride on the dirt road!
      3. tol100v
        tol100v 19 August 2014 22: 38
        +4
        Quote: Bayonet
        His proposal to allow a person to work overtime

        He simply did not specify on whom and how overtime! He "earned" his capital, by no means overtime!
  12. alexandr-budarin1
    alexandr-budarin1 19 August 2014 19: 07
    +7
    The article recalls Prokhorov's appeal: to work "at the request of the population" to the point of exhaustion and die without burdening the employer and the state with your "elderly presence." Article-minus.
    ps We have a kind of socially oriented state policy ..
  13. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 19 August 2014 19: 08
    +6
    For the sake of survival and victory, Russia is obliged, at all costs, to nationalize the fact that natural wealth was so predatoryly dragged into its bins, everything should work for the state, oil, gas, gold, etc. Let the service sector be private, but the basis of the state should be in the hands of the state and not of the oligarchs.
  14. andrei332809
    andrei332809 19 August 2014 19: 08
    +6
    "State of labor"

    the only state on the planet was the state of labor - USSR
    1. Diver
      Diver 19 August 2014 20: 10
      +2
      I agree with you, it is a pity that at 91 I did not fulfill the pioneer oath, the duties of a Komsomol member, the military oath. Was stupefied.
  15. Stalker
    Stalker 19 August 2014 19: 13
    +9
    Sorry !! hi What the hell should the driver do in the cold in the cab of the truck if he knows for sure that they will bring fuel in a week ?? request What a fig STUPID sit at work for 12 hours, knowing that the defense order will be in a month ?? author -> author -> author is clearly "wrong" !!! fool
  16. parusnik
    parusnik 19 August 2014 19: 19
    +9
    Hmm ... some kind of polpotism ... office plankton in the village .. Let's figure it out .. I have a department at my enterprise, where I work .. You think people with a building education are sitting there .. No .. there’s one person in hydraulic engineering, and the rest of the architects .. in the sense of the architecture department came .. I drive, I get additional education to understand the construction .. I come to tell them, it’s so interesting to them .. But they don’t go to school .. why ..
    Why .. there are no specialists, even in the office .. And plow the land and milk the cow, mow the identity, too, I need intelligence ..
  17. Ilotan
    Ilotan 19 August 2014 19: 20
    +8
    There is a little rational grain in the article, but it is reliably buried under a pile of the most complete nonsense. And give the author a shovel, and send the land to throw 11 hours a day. I wonder if he will live until the next two-week vacation? Yes, and with pensioners we will solve the problem. In this mode, not only up to 70, up to 60 few will survive.
    1. saag
      saag 19 August 2014 19: 25
      +4
      Quote: Ilotan
      And give the author a shovel, and send the land to throw 11 hours a day.

      There was something similar, the cultural revolution was called.
    2. Stalker
      Stalker 19 August 2014 19: 37
      +4
      And give the author a shovel, and send the land to throw 11 hours a day

      Why earth? hi To the mine with Kyle, let the little coal cut !!!!
  18. sanyavolhv
    sanyavolhv 19 August 2014 19: 22
    0
    health
    and what’s even more interesting, Russia will not become stronger if ALL THE DICTIONARIES fight among themselves. wounds or posture from the Slovenians WILL NOT HAVE ANYTHING ....
  19. saag
    saag 19 August 2014 19: 23
    +2
    "... Medvedev - the revival of the USSR - this is complete nonsense. Putin - 90s - this is an inoculation of our society from the USSR Putin - who wants the revival of the USSR has no reason ..."
  20. Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 19 August 2014 19: 27
    +4
    A lot of text, messy, not specific. We need an Order, the beginning of which should be put on real trials against High-ranking corrupt officials, representatives of the fifth column and the "creative intelligentsia" (Makarevich end. K) and a clear development program, like the Union had five-year plans, to decide, maybe three years, maybe something else, but we need The State Development Plan and Responsibility is the toughest. In case of success, reward and honor, in case of failure, a link, I'm not talking about sabotage, for this a tower with confiscation and entry into the "list of shame." Yes, ksati, it may be necessary to remember and give especially dangerous phenomena and individuals the status of "outlaw", because the resistance will be fierce.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 19 August 2014 21: 34
      +4
      Quote: Ivan 63
      We need an order, the beginning of which must be put by real processes over ...

      There must be order in the heads, first of all!
      1. tol100v
        tol100v 19 August 2014 22: 48
        +4
        Quote: Bayonet
        There must be order in the heads, first of all!

        After passing the exam, our youth has such an order in my head that mom, do not worry! If in the senior class the history of WWII passed in four hours? Multiplication table only on a calculator? The basics of radio only in a smartphone? The basics of survival only in the hypermarket? Something needs to be changed at the conservatory!
  21. RusDV
    RusDV 19 August 2014 19: 30
    +8
    An article by an idealist who has never held a shovel in his hands. Moreover, wave it "11 o'clock". Wishlist just "white collar" (I confess, I myself belong to them, but it was not always ...), representing how he walks around the plantation with a whip ...... productivity of "workers" 800% and happiness. .......... to everyone and to him personally ......... It is not necessary to start with that ......
  22. Stalker
    Stalker 19 August 2014 19: 31
    +3
    Quote: parusnik
    I go, get additional education, that would understand the construction .. I come tell them,



    These are just effective (loafers) managers ... who only know when the advance and pay !!!
    We have the same. They invest (and write off) a lot of money for an examination on the extension of old weapons ...
  23. DMB-75
    DMB-75 19 August 2014 19: 42
    +6
    Moreover, here the people, in order to survive, Our People are ready to work for days, and they don’t have to humiliate them in this, stimulate their work to the average in Germany and the Tatars and Jews and Russians will work even on holidays, this is the first. Second, stop showing us the dollar and euro rates, we have our union with the BRICS countries and the Russians should focus on the currencies of these countries. And third, television and the media should inform the Russians about the situations in these countries, not in Europe and Sasha, and stop talking about them.
    1. Stanislas
      Stanislas 19 August 2014 22: 47
      +4
      Quote: DMB-75
      the media should inform Russians about the situations in these countries, not in Europe and in Sasha
      It also affects me when in our news they report on the birthday of some Amerov artist, the tricks of a member of the royal family of Britain, etc. More importantly there is no xpen, everyone should know about it!
    2. tol100v
      tol100v 19 August 2014 23: 02
      0
      DMB-75 !, but it's too early for you on the demobilization!
  24. Signaller
    Signaller 19 August 2014 19: 42
    +2
    One quote and ....
    For today's Russia, the "positive direction" can only be the preparation for the acquisition and the acquisition of our natural borders - from the Carpathians to the Pacific Ocean, from the North Pole to Tibet and the Himalayas, and then the protection of these borders
    The author gives the country of coal. So you can roll your lips to Alaska. Apparently the author has something happened to his lips. "Lips rolled out too much."
  25. selendis
    selendis 19 August 2014 19: 43
    +8
    chaotic it is for sure, I work all week, usually seven days a week, but the question is, what am I working for? Not for the benefit of the motherland as a whole, but for the benefit of specific people, through whom I replenish my wallet, and what benefits can the government provide me? My mother is already over 50, she has been plowing at the factory for more than 25 years, and she even cannot go on vacation normally in the summer, I’m not talking about salaries already. The work is not very good, the electrician at the state chemical enterprise and the funny thing is there is no replacement from the youth. Because for some reason no one wants to work in difficult conditions at a chemical enterprise for 15000 thousand. And there are no special working conditions and surcharges, etc. Is there anyone who wants it?) Therefore, how did I spin and will spin for the benefit of my family and small homeland. And until now I do not see a common ideology in our country for the sake of which, excuse me, we can break it for the motherland. I will be very happy if victories are not only in foreign policy.
    1. SHOCK.
      SHOCK. 19 August 2014 21: 16
      +2
      Quote: Selendis
      And until now I do not see a common ideology in our country for the sake of which, excuse me, we can break it for the motherland.

      I agree with you, but the fact is that the Constitution forbids our country to have a common ideology. In order to change something, you need to start dancing from the stove, i.e. from the basic law of the State. It is strange that the author, as a mental proletariat either does not know about this work, or does not attach any importance to it, which does not speak in his favor.
      I give a link, I advise you to read it.

      http://cont.ws/post/42528
  26. portoc65
    portoc65 19 August 2014 19: 50
    0
    You can minus it, but we are not the most hardworking on the planet .. for me we are one of the most lazy people .. we love working .. I don’t argue .. only then when we want and like work ... believe I traveled. I saw how the Europeans work as well. .Chines and we .. maybe we would have lived better if NK is our natural laziness .. right now, of course, are not the best of times .. we have to fuss ..but .. anyway we are smart. but not working.
    1. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 19 August 2014 21: 07
      +4
      Quote: portoc65
      but we are not the most hardworking on the planet.

      But it is the Russians who are gladly hired, because they know: every mechanism on which the Russian works, he himself will repair after a breakdown. You may not believe me, but here's a historical fact: when the British handed us Royal Severin links under Lend-Lease, all British and American newspapers and magazines mocked, saying: the war will end when Russian sailors master such equipment as a battleship, where there is no one inscription in Russian. When, two months later, the battleship was ready to sail to Arkhangelsk, all the same newspapers wrote: the Russians gathered engineers from all over the country and hid them under the robe of ordinary sailors! No one believed that a country that had just gone through a civil war and devastation could build the world's largest hydroelectric power station, Dniproges. Nobody believed that they could master the production of ball bearings and diesel injectors. They tried to rob us with unimaginable prices for bearings and nozzles for diesel engines. Have mastered. The Americans calculated that the USSR would not be able to build an atomic bomb earlier than fifteen years later, while we created a hydrogen bomb before them. even though our intelligence provided all the working drawings of the atomic bomb, it was considered impossible to build atomic reactors. Built. When Chkalov flew over the North Pole and landed in the ASP, he had to remove the hoods from the engine to show that Mikulin's Soviet engine was flying across the pole. And who flew first into space. Another example: After Chkalov and Gromov on the ANT-25, Levanevsky, a polar pilot, flew across the pole, who interrupted the first flight on the ANT-25 and flew on a four-engine and disappeared without a trace. The USSR bought a plane from the Americans to search for Levanesky's plane and on the very first flight the plane's engine died. The plane landed on the beach and sent a telegram to the factory: first the plane landed from the factory and brought a tent with drinks, coffee, and food, and only then the workers, the repair took about an hour of work. First, the plane with the brigade departed, then the plane with the "catering" tent. This is how they worked abroad. Now let's compare what the author offers us.
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 19 August 2014 21: 43
      -4
      Quote: portoc65
      You can minus but we are not the most hardworking on the planet.

      "Horses die from work!", "Work is not a wolf - it will not run away into the forest!", "Work loves fools!" - Who came up with this - "mattress makers", "frog pads", "pasta", maybe "narrow-eyed"?
      1. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 19 August 2014 22: 55
        +1
        Quote: Bayonet
        fools love work!

        Pay attention, this saying is in the movie "Big Life" about the formation of the Stakhanov movement. And it came from pre-revolutionary times, from criminals and anarchists.
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 20 August 2014 06: 14
          0
          Quote: shasherin.pavel
          . And she came from pre-revolutionary times, from criminals and anarchists.

          But this is ours, she was and is.
      2. not main
        not main 20 August 2014 00: 10
        +2
        Quote: Bayonet
        Quote: portoc65
        You can minus but we are not the most hardworking on the planet.

        "Horses die from work!", "Work is not a wolf - it will not run away into the forest!", "Work loves fools!" - Who came up with this - "mattress makers", "frog pads", "pasta", maybe "narrow-eyed"?

        You can’t catch a fish from a pond without labor, it’s an hour fun time, time and labor will grind everything, it’s difficult to learn, it’s easy to hike! Yes, much more, only everyone sees what he wants to see! Svidomye example!
      3. Bayonet
        Bayonet 20 August 2014 07: 02
        -1
        It’s ridiculous to deny what was and is!
    3. tol100v
      tol100v 19 August 2014 23: 11
      0
      Quote: portoc65
      our natural laziness.

      This is not laziness - this is the engine of technological progress! After all, the whistle of the Nightingale - the Robber is the first radar in the world! Further enumeration of Russian priorities from Russian folk tales to the special reports of the CIA are beyond doubt! Just. I didn’t want to go to the collective farm club - here’s your TV! And such examples - OCEAN!
  27. bogdan4ik
    bogdan4ik 19 August 2014 19: 51
    +7
    An article for parasitism is just around the corner. And this article will immediately deprive negligent employers of workers. Well, and most importantly, I go out into the courtyard from the entrance, and next to the entrance are 5 young (24-32 years old) who are tipsy. And all as one swear at Russia. I was there on a business trip, I myself am from Dnepropetrovsk. Well, I could not resist, came up, I say: "Why are you clowns covering your country with obscenities, but you don't want to work?" They answer: "Putin ruined our city, destroyed the entire industry, so-so, where do we work?" Well, I began to tell them that a huge number of factories are being built in Russia, new, using new technologies, which, by increasing productivity, reduce energy costs. That those enterprises that worked here would not have survived in modern conditions of competition anyway. That they are young, you need to pack up a duffel bag and go to the construction sites of the century to earn money, and then you will find yourself with a family and acquire housing. The answer was simply amazing - "Why the heck we need all this, we have part-time jobs for 15 thousand here, plus mamkin's pension, go still freeze your ass to your construction sites of the century." I tell them: "You nits, you can't tear off your asses under the entrance, you sit drunk, and Putin is to blame for you? You, bastards, must first be made to work for free, work hard, so that they would understand that money should not be demanded from Putin, but go to earn money. " We almost got into a fight. But almost everyone thinks so. They are accustomed to sitting in their small-town some frail factory, working through a bottle every day at a quarter of their strength, and getting, like for a full-time job, everything that requires tension, everything is bad and everything is from Putin. And to think a little harder and find a solution - you don't need it. And in this, in my opinion, the employment system of the USSR is to blame. He drinks, skips, everyone will not be kicked out early, all the same he will receive a salary, if they are deprived of bonuses, then for one month. And the tariffs are the same for everyone - even though it worked, though not, the same. So people have relaxed, those who do not want to work - they are comfortable. And those who want to work and earn, the more it is impossible to pay, because the norms, tariffs, rates. And now this system exists, and now it parasitizes, although thinking employers have begun to understand a little that this is not possible. Good work must be well rewarded. But not the other way around - first give money, and then demand something. So you can only spoil.
    1. Vitaly72
      Vitaly72 19 August 2014 22: 25
      0
      24 dash 32 years old what damn system of employment of the USSR?
      1. Vladimir73
        Vladimir73 20 August 2014 06: 52
        0
        Quote: Vitaliy72
        24 dash 32 years old what damn system of employment of the USSR?


        The system - or rather the fragments of the employment system that was in the USSR! It still operates, especially at state-owned enterprises.
  28. jaguar
    jaguar 19 August 2014 20: 01
    +8
    The author apparently only imagines the plant in the picture. am I myself am a repairman by profession, I work on CNC machines and hydraulics of industrial equipment with more than 15 years of experience !!! Now to find a specialist in my profession under the age of 30 is to win the lottery !!! It is necessary to raise the prestige of working professions, to respect working people and not treat them like cattle. Even 10 years ago, the employer could tell the worker to dislike quitting .... now when the squeeze twitched am am am
    1. portoc65
      portoc65 19 August 2014 20: 09
      +2
      I agree ... I live in Europe ... unemployment goes off scale ... work here is like a lottery ... soon all of Europe will flood into Russia to earn money ... we do not appreciate what we have .. the opportunity to work.
      1. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 19 August 2014 23: 02
        0
        Quote: portoc65
        unemployment goes off scale ..
        ? Is it going off scale? What then are you introducing sanctions? Now you have it "not for a scale, but for half a liter, you can't get a job as a janitor".
    2. tol100v
      tol100v 19 August 2014 23: 23
      +1
      Quote: jaguar
      when the pinch twitched

      Not about myself. About a friend. Turner-milling machine is a trifle, he is a healer! If in aviation it is a pilot sniper, then without a designer, there will be neither a fighter nor a pilot! We need simple, hard-working people, who need to be respected! It is these people, not some managers!
  29. Ahil
    Ahil 19 August 2014 20: 07
    +4
    If Russia has a Constitution, that is, a law that must be implemented, then all the land and natural resources belong to all citizens of the Russian Federation. All citizens are the STATE. The STATE SHAREHOLDER should be the STATE everywhere, and not a bunch of oligarchs.
    1. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 19 August 2014 23: 05
      +1
      Quote: ahil
      there must be a STATE, not a bunch of oligarchs.

      But the fact of the matter is that not all members of the state can feel themselves as the oligarchs and deputies, who write laws for the people and not for themselves, feel this.
  30. vvsz031249
    vvsz031249 19 August 2014 20: 13
    +2
    Yes, we have not yet gained strength to withstand the entire western scum. But we are on the right track. They managed to destroy the Soviet Union. But there is Russia, the Russian spirit has not died, the Russian Soul has not been killed !!! We stand. Our strength is in Truth !!! A prosperous west is prosperous only thanks to the robbery of the weak ... And Russia as well. I'd like to believe that the end of our addiction is coming. Our values ​​are too tough for them. Their sneakers, colas, mold ... - corrupted our taste. We are weaned from our native, natural ... You just need to live within our means and grab the hook of a freebie ... It is not ... But the Russian soul cannot be cut out of us. We are the third Rome, and the fourth will not be !!!
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 19 August 2014 23: 49
      0
      Quote: vvsz031249
      . But the Russian soul cannot be cut out of us

      There is no ax that could rise to the Holy Russia!
  31. Diver
    Diver 19 August 2014 20: 14
    +3
    In my opinion, the author does not respect his people.
  32. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 19 August 2014 20: 23
    +3
    The factories of the Akhmetov mine (built by the peoples of the USSR) are stopped due to shelling .. Who will get it? That's the question ...
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 19 August 2014 23: 51
      +1
      The people of New Russia! And without Akhmetov!
  33. LCA
    LCA 19 August 2014 20: 44
    +5
    I.V. Stalin in 1952 wrote the work "Economic problems of socialism in the USSR", where he said:

    3. Thirdly, it is necessary to achieve such a cultural growth of society that would ensure all members of the society comprehensive development of their physical and mental abilities, so that members of society have the opportunity to receive an education sufficient to become active workers in social development, so that they have the ability to freely choose a profession, and not be chained for life, due to the existing division of labor, to one particular profession.

    What is required for this?

    It would be wrong to think that such a serious cultural growth of members of society can be achieved without major changes in the current situation of work.

    To do this, you must first reduce the working day at least to 6, and then to 5 hours.

    This is necessary in order for members of society to have enough free time needed to obtain a comprehensive education.

    For this, it is necessary, further, to introduce compulsory polytechnical training, which is necessary so that members of the society have the opportunity to freely choose a profession and not be confined for life to one profession.

    For this, it is necessary, further, to radically improve housing conditions and raise the real salary of workers and employees at least twice, if not more, both by directly raising the cash salary and, especially, by further systematically lowering the prices of consumer goods.

    These are the basic conditions for preparing the transition to communism. ”
    1. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 19 August 2014 23: 10
      +4
      Quote: LCA
      It would be wrong to think that such a serious cultural growth of members of society can be achieved without major changes in the current situation of work.

      So you will remember Pikul and the scene from PQ-17, when the captain demands a senator, and the seaplane commander unbuttons his jacket and shows him the badge of a "Deputy of the Supreme Council" and says: I am a senator.
      Who can point me now to a working senator.
  34. LCA
    LCA 19 August 2014 20: 48
    +4
    "Stalin is not a thing of the past; he has disappeared into our future." The words of Pierre Kurtad.

    As is known from a telephone conversation between Stalin and a former member of the Presidium of the Central Committee of the CPSU Dmitry Ivanovich Chesnokov, Stalin gave him the following order: “You should soon ... deal with the further development of the theory. We can confuse something in the household. But, one way or another, we will correct the situation. If we mess up in theory, we will ruin the whole thing.

    Without theory, we need death, death, death! .. "
    1. nerd.su
      nerd.su 19 August 2014 21: 28
      +3
      Calls to abolish all holidays and vacations and to plow, plow and plow, with one day off per week, are all sorts of oligarchic mongrels, press prostitutes, mainly Moscow, all kinds of oligarchic clans and other strike breakers. You want to plow 12 hours a day, there are no other interests, there is no wife, children, there is simply no one to fuck with, finally - save your health! But if you are alone, do not, from envy of people, deprive them of simple human happiness! Pasha alone or in the company of the same restless.

      And in order to reduce unemployment and raise tax revenues, only two things must be done.
      First, to prohibit employers from hiring foreign guest workers. Only Russian citizens. And citizens of other countries, especially Central Asian ones, can obtain citizenship through a five-year contract in the "foreign labor legion," in other words, in the construction battalion. At the request of our unrestrained fellow citizens, who are threatened by a petty and domestic hooligan, he caught his wife there with a lover, a scuffle but everyone is alive, or had a fight with a neighbor after a binge, but before that there were no flights, etc. For foreigners, a study course for three to five months, depending on the specialty, the Russian language in the ranks is much better than according to any intellectual tests there and a diploma (certificate, certificate, certificate for safety) of a bricklayer or slinger will be more or less deserved. Officers and sergeants to put the Russians smarter and smarter, let them immediately get used to who in the country gives commands. We equip this personnel exclusively with Russian equipment and go ahead - build roads, bridges, civil and military airports and other infrastructure. And an honest work background.

      Secondly, it is necessary to reduce unemployment benefits and unemployed in principle. You have the right to seek work for 6 months for five years. Dismissed - month full benefit, month 75%, month 50%. And another three months for free. After six months, he didn’t get anywhere, an article for parasitism, a fine of one hundred thousand with the ability to pay it off working where they send him.

      These simple methods will be much more effective for the economy than a six-day work week.

      And yet, s..ka, ten fines, for those who can’t bring a piece of paper to the ballot box!
      1. Vladimir73
        Vladimir73 20 August 2014 07: 14
        0
        Dear nerd.su, in principle, I agree with your ideas, but I'm afraid, at the moment, it will turn out worse than it is now (official slaves, which is how such units will be perceived). Although the idea is very healthy and attractive.

        But
        “Thirdly, it is necessary to reduce unemployment benefits and unemployed people in principle. You have the right to look for a job for 6 months within five years. Fired - a month full benefit, a month 75%, a month 50%. And three more months free. After six I haven't got a job for months, an article for parasitism, a fine of one hundred thousand with the ability to pay off working wherever they send. "
        it’s good only if there are jobs with a normal salary, but somehow you want to live on a salary of 5-7 thousand per month (namely, such salaries will be offered by employers under such conditions) I think it will be small. hi
        1. nerd.su
          nerd.su 20 August 2014 18: 21
          0
          Quote: Vladimir73
          but somehow those who want to live on a salary of 5-7 thousand per month (namely, such salaries will be offered by employers under such conditions), I think there will be few.

          Well, I agree with the figure, they are unlikely to be offered anymore. However! For six months to not find a job - it must be a clinical idiot. This is no longer worthy.
          And employers should be only the state and municipal authorities. They have little money (especially in municipalities) and there is darkness. And let the rest of the employers in the labor market are looking for workers, not figs to relax them. Something like this hi
          1. Vladimir73
            Vladimir73 24 August 2014 21: 03
            0
            Quote: bot.su
            For six months to not find a job - it must be a clinical idiot.


            If you are over forty-five, then finding work is extremely difficult - even as a security guard.
            Employers are extremely reluctant to hire workers near retirement age. Even at state-owned enterprises (age-related diseases, general health status ...). So, depending on the specialty, you can look for work longer. At the same time, mind you, we are talking about big cities ... and if the town is small? And for the whole village a couple of existing small factories?

            Quote: bot.su
            And employers should be only the state and municipal authorities. They don’t have much money either (especially in municipalities) and there is darkness


            if they have money to pay for jobs (you probably know how the budget of a municipality, district, region is formed). So there is only one conclusion - to eliminate unemployment, you need to restructure the local government system, the tax system, revise the system of distribution of finances, etc., and the introduction of the measures you proposed in the current system of government will be only half measures that will only make things worse the ordinary citizen of the country, who will be mercilessly exploited, and the income thereof will decrease.
  35. QWERTY
    QWERTY 19 August 2014 21: 04
    +6
    Oh, and a friend’s schiz ... I work 6 days a week (not always, but often, every other time), I leave at 6 and return at 8 in the evening, although I don’t physically do nichrome ( for the master of the site), so by Sunday I could hardly drag my feet. The author would dig a trench to me from here and to the horizon for 6 days for 11 hours ... I would quit in a month, do not go to my grandmother.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 19 August 2014 22: 10
      +2
      Quote: ytsuken
      The author would dig to me a trench from here to the horizon 6 days for 11 hours... I would quit in a month, do not go to the grandmother.

      Yes, he would have had enough "from the fence to lunch" to go nowhere.
  36. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 19 August 2014 21: 11
    +5
    That’s scary and most important .. and it’s not bitter, but it’s a fact alas! On the Independence Square they rode well, all right (but now they are really killing all their civilian weapons ...) They would attack Russia immediately why kill their inhabitants .. ( there it was honest though ..) You are Galicians who are strange and you’re just sorry .. You’ll just have to answer ..! You have captured Ukraine with your impudence and pressure and dictate your conditions (which you are whispering from the ocean and the EU ..) Do not run away anyway ..I'm sure of that just
  37. Amper
    Amper 19 August 2014 21: 41
    0
    This is the Theory of power, oligarchs, United Russia, organized crime groups in the hope that the people to protect their homeland will automatically, taking into account general mobilization, protect their stolen wealth and interests.
    the masses of the armed people, primarily or in between cases, will gladly insert a bayonet into the thick belly of the privatizers, remembering everything that was and was not .. And then let it be, what will be.
    Now the government, probably in thought, felts surrender on acceptable terms pen..am, felts believe in luck that the people will bear them on their shoulders. But pens ... they will definitely beckon, and then they will strangle in their selfish interests.
    Caught on ... let them get nervous.
  38. Revolver
    Revolver 19 August 2014 22: 08
    +2
    Well, yes, work makes you free. In German - "Arbeit macht frei". But, if anyone remembers, it was this motto, forged from iron letters, was above the gates of the Nazi concentration camps. Almost all but one. In Buchenwald, instead of him hung over the gate "Jedem das seine" - "to each his own." Anyone interested in the Hitler regime?
  39. Venier
    Venier 19 August 2014 22: 15
    +2
    One of the favorite poems of childhood.
    Every case
    The smell is special:
    The bakery smells
    Dough and baking.
    Past the carpentry
    You go to the workshop, -
    Chip smells
    And fresh board.
    Smells painter
    Skip for free and paint.
    The smell of glazier
    Window putty.
    Driver's jacket
    It smells of gasoline.
    Worker blouse -
    Machine oil.
    Confectioner smells
    Nutmeg nut.
    Doctor in lab coat -
    The medicine is pleasant.
    Loose earth
    Field and meadow
    Smells like a peasant,
    Going after the plow.
    Fish and sea
    It smells like a fisherman.
    Only idleness
    There is no smell.
    How many chokes
    Swindler rich
    It doesn't matter
    He smells guys!
    The state of labor, where there is no snobbery between people, where all labor is held in high esteem.
  40. Amper
    Amper 19 August 2014 22: 23
    +2
    Quote: Venier
    One of the favorite poems of childhood.
    Every case
    The smell is special:
    The bakery smells
    Dough and baking.
    Past the carpentry
    You go to the workshop, -
    Chip smells
    And fresh board.
    Smells painter
    Skiom and paint.
    The smell of glazier
    Window putty.
    Driver's jacket
    It smells of gasoline.
    Worker blouse -
    Machine oil.
    Confectioner smells
    Nutmeg nut.
    Doctor in lab coat -
    The medicine is pleasant.
    Loose earth
    Field and meadow
    Smells like a peasant,
    Going after the plow.
    Fish and sea
    It smells like a fisherman.
    Only idleness
    There is no smell.
    How many chokes
    Swindler rich
    It doesn't matter
    He smells guys!

    Tokmo, our media everywhere have been repeating to everyone and for the whole 25 years, the rogue is a worker, a janitor, a peasant, -. Even a prostitute is cooler than them.
    What do you want to become, son? An oligarch or a thug, dad! That's cool!
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 19 August 2014 23: 14
      +2
      Quote: Amper
      What do you want to become, son? An oligarch or a thug, dad! That's cool!

      Yes, I remember. In the years of perestroika bad memory, a survey was conducted at some school "who do you want to become." The girls wanted to become currency(exactly so!) prostitutes, and the boys were divided. They wanted to become cooperators (in the absence of businessmen as a concept at that time) and racketeers (again, the word "bandit" then had a slightly different meaning).
  41. Mih
    Mih 19 August 2014 22: 48
    -4
    Quote: Leonidych
    and smart and hardworking .... being smart means hardworking and vice versa

    There is a saying: work is not a wolf and will not run away into the forest. This is the first.
    In Soviet times: work, work, don’t get rid of the prize - to the head of the prize, and to the worker -X ...
    This is the second.
    Thirdly, for what they received the real term: a sickle and a hammer, a hammer a sickle - this is our Soviet coat of arms. hosh work, but hosh kui - you’ll get x anyway ...
    The author on whom calls for hunchback? Maybe the author in life, as bandyuganov said in 90_x, does not understand ?.
    I have to plow these freaks. Here is a figure of five fingers. am
  42. Mih
    Mih 19 August 2014 22: 54
    0
    What do you want to become, son? An oligarch or a thug, dad! That's cool!

    Here I am about that. Great choice of a great country. Shelter .. am
  43. Mih
    Mih 19 August 2014 22: 59
    0
    Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
    We need at least partial nationalization - and there you can include a 6-day.

    Yeah, Comrade Marshal, it’s possible to restore the Gulag so that there is proper social justice - thieves in law are socially close to us, but they just don’t want to work, and everything is in perfect order. love
  44. Amper
    Amper 19 August 2014 23: 04
    +4
    Quote: Mih
    Quote: Leonidych
    and smart and hardworking .... being smart means hardworking and vice versa

    There is a saying: work is not a wolf and will not run away into the forest. This is the first.
    In Soviet times: work, work, don’t get rid of the prize - to the head of the prize, and to the worker -X ...
    This is the second.
    Thirdly, for what they received the real term: a sickle and a hammer, a hammer a sickle - this is our Soviet coat of arms. hosh work, but hosh kui - you’ll get x anyway ...
    The author on whom calls for hunchback? Maybe the author in life, as bandyuganov said in 90_x, does not understand ?.
    I have to plow these freaks. Here is a figure of five fingers. am

    I can’t say for all professions, I’m a power engineer. But it was not easy to make switching from engineers to shift at our thermal power plant.
    In the shift I received 220-270 r / month (cleaner 60 r / m)
    And becoming a senior master began to receive 180-190 p / month !?
    Rent 25 r / month?
    Here are those and forge!
    The head of the workshop received 280-320, Ch. Ing. 340-360, Director of 360-420. 1y secretary of the regional committee from 360 according to accounting ..
    And no one saw or heard them, where do they eat and eat vodka? ..
    And no one in the streets did not crush people in batches. And in the villages did not kill families.
    What else to say about the Kui from the USSR?
    There was a social competition, who will give out more kilowatts per kg of fuel, and they were hammering not so much for grandmas as for respect .. The indicators were read directly from the diagrams of devices ..
    Something like this..
    I would never exchange my USSR for this Russia! If I knew, if I knew ... No way !!!!!!!!
    Although not everyone liked it.
    1. not main
      not main 20 August 2014 00: 19
      +1
      Quote: Amper
      Amper SU

      I do not agree with everything, but for emotions and faith a huge plus!
  45. Opinion-8888
    Opinion-8888 19 August 2014 23: 05
    +3
    The article is good, correct, BUT ...
    Example: Oryol region. Mtsensk region. Otradinsky sugar plant, owned by the "Razgulay" group. Population - more than 3000 people. In Soviet times, the village was founded at the plant.
    People worked at this factory, there was everything in the village - clean and well-maintained streets, a school, a kindergarten and roads, happy children and their parents who were content with life.
    It makes no sense to describe what is now happening at the plant, on its territory, in the village, into what Razgulyay turned the road in the village with its trucks, I think all this is so imagined. In addition, when employees in their hearts begin to remember "how it was", the management of "Walking" says directly and cynically to them: "Forget how it was," we need to take sugar, and the rest does not bother us. "
    The owners of the plant successfully squander money from the sale of this sugar in the Canaries and
    TELL ME! WHO WILL TURN OUT THE LANGUAGE TO CALL PEOPLE TO WORK at such a factory?
  46. Mih
    Mih 19 August 2014 23: 14
    +1
    You can, of course, introduce military communism. Do you understand what this will lead to? No, I think you don’t understand, or they calculated everything very well.
    It will not work, for a simple reason, the people are no longer the same - and this is a fact to be reckoned with. Want a war? As the famous ideologist said: war cleanses the nation. The nation will eventually be cleansed of foam. soldier
  47. Mih
    Mih 19 August 2014 23: 18
    +1
    Quote: Thought Giant
    In any economic formations, there is one unshakable principle: the more you work, the better you live.

    Well, you just killed me! Vi is so naive, and the general. laughing
  48. Mih
    Mih 19 August 2014 23: 23
    0
    This is the Theory of power, oligarchs, United Russia, organized crime groups in the hope that the people to protect their homeland will automatically, taking into account general mobilization, protect their stolen wealth and interests.

    And they are so naive, dear, well, just darling. Will you buy me a new Bentley for my birthday, or will my girlfriend laugh at me like a sucker?
  49. prio124
    prio124 19 August 2014 23: 29
    0
    Therefore, the new battles of Russia make it possible to clearly and almost without hindrances and additions see its primordial spiritual essence. Russians today are simply Russians as they are. And this opens up the possibility of direct and unimpeded work of the spirit of the Holy Spirit through our churchliness, the people's spirit through our deeds, the sovereign spirit through our power and the figure of the ruler. "
    Unfortunately idealists. We have too many hidden and unresolved issues within the country. But as a "national idea", the option is quite acceptable for consideration
  50. Mih
    Mih 19 August 2014 23: 37
    +2
    Quote: Amper
    I would never exchange my USSR for this Russia! If I knew, if I knew ... No way !!!!!!!!
    Although not everyone liked it.

    So I'm not against that life. If we talk about salaries, I was not offended, since I worked as an engineer in a closed system - the order of numbers was similar, but I'm not talking about that.
    I agree with you - I would not exchange those times, but in these - I do not want to hunch on freaks. love