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Militia: APU attacked Lugansk with ballistic missiles

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Representatives of the militia of Novorossia declare that the Ukrainian punishers attacked Luhansk with Tochka-U ballistic missiles. The militia base their conclusions on the detected parts of the rocket and the nature of the damage to the infrastructure facilities. This was reported in the news release channel Russia-24.

Militia: APU attacked Lugansk with ballistic missiles


Igor Korotchenko, editor-in-chief of the magazine National Defense, commented on the possible use of Tochka-U missiles:

Indeed, this rocket resembles the operational-tactical complex "Tochka-U", which is regularly in service with the Ukrainian army. Ukraine has previously used this view. weapons to attack the militias and cities in eastern Ukraine. This caused a great international scandal. And, in particular, American intelligence confirmed the launch of the Ukrainian military in the cities of Donbass. It can be said unequivocally that in the conditions of low qualification, the lack of digital maps of the terrain at the Ukrainian General Staff, the use of this class of missile weapons can only lead to a massive, non-selective defeat of civilian objects and the death of dozens of people.


"Point" - a tactical missile system. The minimum firing range is 15 thousand meters, the maximum is up to 120 thousand meters. The Armed Forces of Ukraine exploit about 100 similar complexes.
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  1. kot28.ru
    kot28.ru 17 August 2014 10: 23
    +42
    The Nazis are increasingly greyhound under the guise of countries geyropov and states am am am am am
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 17 August 2014 10: 30
      +118
      I think if nuclear weapons at the junta would strike without a second thought ... real! They have already used almost all types of weapons in the southeast ... They will answer for all the bastards ..
      1. a52333
        a52333 17 August 2014 10: 32
        +8
        Out of topic
        . The Ukrainian ultra-nationalist movement “Right Sector” threatened the new Ukrainian authorities with an armed campaign against Kiev. The radicals said that this would happen if the police did not release their supporters within 48 hours. “We appeal to the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko to immediately restore order in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, relieving the odious representatives of anti-Ukrainian forces from the posts in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and also to begin an investigation of their criminal activity,” ITAR-TASS quoted a statement from the Right Sector.

        The members of the radical organization also demand the immediate release of all detainees, the closure of all criminal cases against supporters of the Right Sector and other volunteer units, as well as the return of all illegally seized weapons and vehicles to the combat zone.

        “In case of non-compliance with our requirements within 48 hours, we will be forced to withdraw all our units along the front line, declare a general mobilization of reserve battalions and begin a campaign against Kiev in order to carry out“ quick reforms ”in the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Derivative columns of the Right Sector will be fully equipped, ”the radicals said in a statement. “Right Sector” calls the arrests of its supporters “internal counter-revolution”, as well as attempts to destroy the Ukrainian volunteer movement and “pave the way for separatist and terrorist groups in Kiev.”



        Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/45730#ixzz3Ad1b69sW
        1. enot73
          enot73 17 August 2014 11: 02
          +10
          Quote: a52333
          The Ukrainian ultra-nationalist movement "Right Sector" threatened the new Ukrainian authorities with an armed campaign against Kiev
          The guys understand that they want to merge here and are looking for an excuse to get to the rear from the front line. IMHO, most of the Svidomo to the front does not seek and rallies and survives in the rear.
        2. nycsson
          nycsson 17 August 2014 11: 27
          +8
          look at what our mediocre ostrich foreign policy has led ......
          1. Hecto
            Hecto 17 August 2014 11: 36
            +13
            Winter is coming, and they all gallop what
            1. papas-57
              papas-57 17 August 2014 11: 54
              +10
              "Winter is coming, and they are all jumping." They train so as not to freeze in winter.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 17 August 2014 13: 02
                +15
                well know karma they have such
                1. USSR 1971
                  USSR 1971 17 August 2014 15: 05
                  +4
                  Use of portable heaters is approved by accountants of housing and communal services of Ukraine. Electricity payments will be undoubtedly wonderful.
                  1. Koloradovatnik
                    Koloradovatnik 17 August 2014 17: 46
                    +3
                    Dill already and began to hammer points. I hope from hopelessness.
                    1. Cynic
                      Cynic 17 August 2014 18: 00
                      +2
                      Quote: Colorado
                      Dill already and began to hammer points.

                      Finally, they were found, But the Yusovtsy gave out information about the launches, and the militia _ we don’t know anything, we need to clarify.
                      It has already been discussed, so there is essentially no hype.
                      hi
              2. O_RUS
                O_RUS 17 August 2014 14: 35
                -7
                Quote: papas-57
                "Winter is coming, and they are all jumping." They train so as not to freeze in winter.


                In winter, they are in each other's eyes to keep warm.
                Ukraine - country pid *****!
          2. USSR 1971
            USSR 1971 17 August 2014 11: 37
            +21
            On the video - a frenzied monkey. Neanderthal level. Escaped from the zoo. I hope not all the youth of Ukraine without brains.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 17 August 2014 12: 08
              +4
              but didn’t notice parents with children in this crowd?
              1. APASUS
                APASUS 17 August 2014 13: 46
                +5
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                but didn’t notice parents with children in this crowd?

                I noticed that the Ukrainian police did not jump.
                What is it for?
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 18 August 2014 10: 47
                  0
                  it just doesn’t mean anything, in Odessa they didn’t jump the same
            2. Rus2012
              Rus2012 17 August 2014 13: 34
              +7
              Quote: USSR 1971
              I hope not all the youth of Ukraine without brains.

              over 90%, alas ...
              How to cure - wrote above:
              hailstones, hunger-cold and whip-hard labor ...
              1. General Frost
                General Frost 17 August 2014 20: 55
                +1
                Quote: Rus2012
                Quote: USSR 1971
                I hope not all the youth of Ukraine without brains.

                over 90%, alas ...
                How to cure - wrote above:
                hailstones, hunger-cold and whip-hard labor ...

                More reliable tank tracks, or rather, and most importantly, deservedly hi
            3. fyodor
              fyodor 17 August 2014 16: 02
              +5
              I would also like to hope that not all young people are without brains, but only this small part of the newly bred breed of horses. So really only a place in the zoo, drive to look at them excursions and say: See how children can not live!
              PS It makes you sick.
              1. vitamin ky
                vitamin ky 17 August 2014 18: 03
                +3
                Well, yes, on the contrary, I also have to live with them
            4. Hyppopotut
              Hyppopotut 17 August 2014 18: 05
              +3
              Pay attention to the faces of the participants in the procession. Intelligence was not born there.
              Ukraine has already switched to ov education standards for about 20 years ...
              1. Boa kaa
                Boa kaa 17 August 2014 22: 35
                +5
                Quote: Hyppopotut
                Intelligence was not born there.
          3. ankh-andrej
            ankh-andrej 17 August 2014 11: 41
            +3
            Zombieland
          4. Lelek
            Lelek 17 August 2014 11: 45
            +11
            The organizers and leaders of the coven in red t-shirts are immediately evident. Well, not yet evening. Let's see what these jerks will shout out after 3 months. Yes
          5. enot73
            enot73 17 August 2014 11: 49
            +18
            Quote: nycsson
            look at what our mediocre ostrich foreign policy has led ......
            The march of neo-Nazis in Zaporozhye. So what ? We gathered in Zaporozhye "tourists" from all over Ukraine, and they all try very hard to show their need in the rear, pouring cold sweat at the mere thought of a possible sending them to the South - East.
            1. enot73
              enot73 17 August 2014 22: 30
              0
              Quote: enot73
              Neo-Nazi March in Zaporozhye

              P. S. Straight Klondike for the draft board.
          6. cheerful
            cheerful 17 August 2014 12: 04
            +8
            Why are these heroes not at war ?! Because cowards ?!
            1. MarKon
              MarKon 17 August 2014 12: 33
              +3
              Yes, their underpants or shorts are really black))))
          7. GELEZNII_KAPUT
            GELEZNII_KAPUT 17 August 2014 12: 07
            +6
            Here is also a "fun" holiday!
            1. SeAl2014
              SeAl2014 17 August 2014 12: 36
              +20
              It seems like it's time for psychiatrists to work. I feel sorry for the children.
              1. Prometey
                Prometey 17 August 2014 19: 09
                +2
                Quote: SeAl2014
                Children feel sorry.

                In principle, no. A worthy change to law-abductors and Odessa arsonists is growing up.
            2. Proud.
              Proud. 17 August 2014 12: 48
              +5
              Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
              "fun party!

              Yeah. Here are our Ukrainian "brothers". In the anthem of Krajina, I like the word "vorozhenki" - enemies. Or rather, it causes bewilderment.
              t;? And not "enemies".
            3. Tuzik
              Tuzik 17 August 2014 12: 50
              +5
              Now, 20 years after the separation, there is already an abyss between peoples, and what will happen when these children grow up? it’s already in 10 years, then there will be no abyss, but different warring planets ...
            4. Dejavu
              Dejavu 17 August 2014 14: 25
              +13
              I'm in shock .... THIS IS REALLY CLINICAAAAAAAA ..... "Who wants to spit, spit", "let's drive a round dance" ... ply this is the finish, sorry for being straightforward. Ukrainians really e .... zero. Sorry again.
            5. opus
              opus 17 August 2014 14: 50
              +6
              Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
              Here is also a "fun" holiday!

              Listening to their hymn, I fall into depresnyak for a day.

              ===========
              and on behavior-clinic
            6. Horst78
              Horst78 17 August 2014 16: 20
              +3
              Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
              Here is also a "fun" holiday!

              UkroZOMBI am
            7. Bayonet
              Bayonet 17 August 2014 16: 41
              +2
              Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
              Here is also a "fun" holiday!

              It is necessary to enter all these faces into a single base and when taking prisoner (and then!) Check for participation in criminal actions! Or maybe there’s already one - several people who have crossed the border have already slowed down, for a reason!
            8. cat hippopotamus
              cat hippopotamus 17 August 2014 17: 37
              +3
              Goebel is resting, dibilizatsyaya complete, shiz mows without exception.
            9. STALGRAD76
              STALGRAD76 19 August 2014 14: 06
              0
              And grandfather at 13. sec took the poster when it will be necessary to hang on the wall laughing
              Of course, such events are some kind of insanity .......
          8. cat hippopotamus
            cat hippopotamus 17 August 2014 12: 12
            +7
            Bydlogoblins zombie, where is your enemy? It’s in your head and in the presidency, the Maidan horses, go to the southeast and the militia will take off your arrogance there. Some of you will survive and calm down if you realize that you yourself destroyed your country. Fool like you were bombed - you are an obedient herd of pigs.
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          11. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 17 August 2014 12: 24
            +26
            something like
            1. Azzzwer
              Azzzwer 17 August 2014 12: 58
              +10
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              something like
              aha, "who does not jump, eat that!"
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          12. Proud.
            Proud. 17 August 2014 12: 32
            +2
            Quote: nycsson
            look what led

            Eerie. Growing up brainless orcs. If they do not turn into black soil, they will bring up their children in the same spirit. "Warriors of light, warriors of good ..." - everything is turned upside down.
          13. 77bob1973
            77bob1973 17 August 2014 12: 33
            +3
            It is not clear why they rejoice, as if they won the World Cup?
            1. Constanta
              Constanta 17 August 2014 15: 26
              +29
              Incidentally,
              Serbian BK fans met rivals from Kiev with a huge Russian flag
              1. opus
                opus 17 August 2014 17: 38
                +7
                Quote: constanta
                Incidentally,
                Serbian BK fans met rivals from Kiev with a huge Russian flag

                There is still a poster in the background.
                And don't they sing Katyusha?
                1. enot73
                  enot73 17 August 2014 22: 52
                  +1
                  Quote: opus
                  There is still a poster in the background.

                  This is the glory of Russia ,,,? The Serbs do not forget who the fraternal people are for them.
          14. SeAl2014
            SeAl2014 17 August 2014 12: 47
            +3
            Well, when it gets cold it’s time to ride around the clock.
          15. surovts.valery
            surovts.valery 17 August 2014 12: 56
            +3
            And where does "our mediocre ostrich foreign policy" have to do with it? The usual fascist march of young idiots, moreover, paid for.
          16. opus
            opus 17 August 2014 12: 58
            +18
            1. Probably immediately go to the front?
            2. They cry there about unconventional sexual intercourse and homosexual ....
            But strangely, the official pedriles are deputies (and according to the rumors of the prime ministers, the ministers of the Ministry of Internal Affairs) - they are.
            3. "Who's not that fast ..." the same as they jump, the scrotum descends, the pressure of seminal fluid on the micromyoscope stole decreases, and they relax.
            ====
            That's what "Ukraine" is shouting, "Glory to Ukraine" and so on.
            What is glory for what? what did the Ukrainians do so "glorious" in (in) Ukraine)?
            deputies Lyashko?
            -premer Yaytsenyuh?
            - the president Poroshenko, the oligarchy who slept with all parties which are available in Ukraine
            -or this monkey?
            From The Jungle Book (Kipling):

            “Banderlogs do not have the Law. They do not have their own language, only stolen words that they learn from others when they eavesdrop, and peep, and lie in wait, sitting in the trees.
            They live without a leader. They don't remember anything. They chatter and boast that they are a great people and have conceived great things in the jungle, but the nut will fall, and they are already laughing and have forgotten everything.

            There are a lot of them, they are evil, dirty, shameless, and only want the Jungle People to pay attention to them. But he doesn't notice them, even when they throw nuts and throw dirt on everyone's head. If the banderlog fell into the hands of a sick wolf, or a wounded tiger, or a bear, they tortured the weak and for fun threw them at the animals with sticks and nuts, hoping that they would be noticed. They raise a howl, shouting meaningless songs, call the Jungle People to their trees to fight, start quarrels over trifles among themselves and throw dead Banderlog anywhere, parading the entire Jungle People. They were constantly going to have their own leader, and their own laws and customs, but they never did, because their memory was short, no further than yesterday. In the end, they made up on the fact that they came up with a saying: "All the jungles will think tomorrow the way the Banderlog thinks today," and were very much comforted by this. We are great! We are free! We are admirable! Worthy of admiration, like no other people in the jungle! We all say that - it means it's true! - shout Banderlog. "
            1. vch62388
              vch62388 18 August 2014 00: 04
              +1
              Kipling is great. He, like no one, understood the imperial policy of Britain. There is someone to learn from - the Empire, over which the sun does not set. A quote without cuts can be inserted into a guidebook in Ukraine.
              1. opus
                opus 18 August 2014 00: 46
                +4
                Quote: vch62388
                A quote without cuts can be inserted into the reference guide to Ukraine.

                I told them (even my relatives from Ukraine), SAID, showed, read .....




                DO NOT REACH


                "- Listen, baby people, - said Baloo's bearand his voice thundered like a rumble of thunder on a hot night. “I taught you the Law of the Jungle concerning our entire population.” except for the Monkey Folk living among the branches. They have no law. They are outcast. They do not have their own dialect; they use stolen words who overhear when spying on us, hiding in the branches. They are not our customs. They live without leaders. They have no memory. They brag, chatter, assure that they are great people, ready to do great things, but as soon as a nut falls, it becomes funny to them, and they forget everything. We, the inhabitants of the jungle, We do not deal with them; do not drink where they drink; do not move along their roads; do not hunt where they hunt; do not die where they die. Have you ever heard me speak of the people of Banderlogov to this day? "
                - R. Kipling ...

                Whether water (in the water utility), or food,
                whether the emitters ("Inhabited Island" - Unknown Fathers)
          17. Rus2012
            Rus2012 17 August 2014 13: 23
            +4
            Quote: nycsson
            look at what our mediocre ostrich foreign policy has led .....

            already wrote on this topic -
            ... all the past 23 years, Russia practically could not oppose anything to the pernicious influence of the United States in Ukraine. Until 2005 (then 2008-09) Russians were busy trying to survive on their own. First, the country's sovereignty was lost to the IMF and creditors (thanks to the "tagged" and EBN), then the financial crisis. At the same time, the organizer of the last crisis, the United States, did not suffer much, it was engaged in its programs of corrupting the "galloping".

            Accordingly, we have what we have ...
            The worst thing - "spoiled generations" that in Ukraine that we have - is almost impossible to fix. Only by passing through the battlefields - laying them with bones in the vastness of Ukraine or passing through the Gulag. And analysts here understand this, in Europe they begin to understand ..


            those. there is all this is treated with the Utes machine gun, company PCs ... cold, hunger and katarga ...
            1. nycsson
              nycsson 17 August 2014 15: 00
              -3
              Quote: Rus2012
              those. there is all this is treated with the Utes machine gun, company PCs ... cold, hunger and katarga ...

              Yeah! How would we not experience all this on our own skin ..... Who cares who thinks about "sausage scraps", watch the video ....
              1. zone72
                zone72 17 August 2014 21: 12
                0
                and these vampire bastards do not have time to join the army or the kukan
          18. iner
            iner 17 August 2014 13: 47
            +11
            I watched this video, and I was overwhelmed by the feeling of bewilderment that with so many active, cheerful and purposeful youth, they have problems with mobilization ... They jump well, beautifully, only now we’ll rest on the spot and not towards the military registration and enlistment office.
            1. Rus2012
              Rus2012 17 August 2014 14: 00
              +2
              Quote: iner
              They jump well, beautifully, only now we’ll rest on the spot and not towards the military registration and enlistment office

              18let has not knocked yet ... and the students are as it were ...
          19. Rider
            Rider 17 August 2014 13: 53
            +2
            Everything is thought out, but we will no longer subsidize these dibilov.
          20. Nikaviz
            Nikaviz 17 August 2014 14: 11
            +5
            Something they are few .... 3 hours of battle with the militias .... And wassat
          21. pensioner
            pensioner 17 August 2014 16: 16
            +1
            Actually, there are not as many of them as it might seem. For a couple of terbats. Well, this is taking into account the number of these battalions. Well, considering that 50% will definitely "get sick" after receiving a summons to the military enlistment office ...
          22. Russian1974
            Russian1974 17 August 2014 16: 18
            +1
            Ukro bitches you fuck fuck for Novorossia !!! Yes, and in Russia we have such a pid !!!!!
          23. shurik
            shurik 17 August 2014 17: 21
            0
            Another indignation must be expressed. Ay-yai-yay, not good.
          24. Philemon
            Philemon 17 August 2014 19: 52
            +6
            Yes, there was a relatively calm city of Zaporozhye ... These half-fools will only blow up the situation, and tomorrow there will come a war !!! And they will blame m * on the blame again ... Your mother screamers ... Such a fucking crowd of young people of draft age, and God forbid on the summons to the military enlistment office ... No, no, we, descendants of the Cossack family are worthless to rot in the trenches. This business is not lordly ... Chmyrdya you ... I can’t pick up more decent words!
            1. brisk
              brisk 18 August 2014 01: 04
              -6
              Quote: Philemon
              Yes, there was a relatively calm city of Zaporozhye ... These half-fools will only blow up the situation, and tomorrow there will come a war !!!


              How do you imagine it - the arrival of war in my native Zaporozhye? If it were not for a living and working example of the DPR-LPR, it might have come. And so ... thousands of refugees from the same DPR-LPR to Zaporozhye and the Zaporozhye region finally convinced their residents that some kind of republic was freshly baked with an unpretentious name ZNR and not very clear tasks and doctrines, really, it’s not worth repeating the path of these very refugees. There are many other, better ways to deal with issues than bullets and wars. In addition, Zaporozhye in the mentality of its inhabitants is noticeably different from Donetsk, and even more so from Lugansk. Still - the land of the Zaporozhye Cossacks. Have you heard about the Khortitsa island in Zaporozhye? There was such a freeman here two and a half centuries ago! Have you read "Taras Bulba"? Katka 2 Sofia Augusta Frederica of Anhalt-Zerbst, a whore, a German whore, then treacherously destroyed them ... But how many times they fought against Turkey, they laid down their lives for the royal court of Petersburg! The last time was in 1768 - 1774 for the same Katka. And how did she thank them for that in just a year ?! Why take German women from her? Fritsevka it is Fritsevka - latent Barbarossa always. We remember the Zaporizhzhya Sich well!
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              2. alexng
                alexng 18 August 2014 08: 07
                +1
                See how soon you would not have to envy the LPR and the DPR. Chickens in the fall believe that is just around the corner.
                1. brisk
                  brisk 18 August 2014 11: 25
                  0
                  Quote: alexneg
                  alexneg (1) Today, 08:07 ↑
                  See how soon you would not have to envy the LPR and the DPR. Chickens in the fall believe that is just around the corner.


                  You just kind of gloat over something, in some languid and evil anticipations you abide in relation to others. Others are Ukrainians, including me. Why so, Alexander Ivanovich? You are a solid, respectable person, and not some kind of green chantrap in which the vocabulary will be completely invested in a hundred words, half of which will be matyuk ... Not good, not good, to enjoy the difficulties and sorrows of others. You have wonderful people in Belgorod. My relatives live there, though not so close. My cousin lived his whole life in Belgorod for a long time and was buried there when he was dying, we came from Zaporozhye. Belgorod looks beautiful from a train from far away - light, even the radiance comes from. But Kharkov does not differ in beauty - dark, gloomy ... Stop it, Alexander Ivanovich. This does not suit you.
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                  2. alexng
                    alexng 18 August 2014 16: 30
                    +1
                    It's just that in this situation there is no other way than purification through experience, albeit grievous and bitter, but the other person is unaware that the ancient wisdom says: you cannot live in enmity with your neighbor and look for friends far away, otherwise it leads to "cannibalism" self-criticism. And this understanding comes only through hardship and suffering. For all rash actions in this life, a person has to pay with imprisonment of Mind.

                    The only thing the Almighty cannot tolerate is hypocrisy (dividing people into righteous and not righteous, which We observe in Ukraine) and always severely punishes it.
          25. UREC
            UREC 17 August 2014 20: 49
            0
            HOW THE POORS WILL Jump in the Winter !!! Yo-ha-ha Here we GET WE SIR from great jumpers !!!
          26. Shoma-1970
            Shoma-1970 17 August 2014 23: 33
            +1
            Not our ostrich policy !!! If some oligarch KALOMOISKY organized football fans so that they would yell at the dictation of garbage, moreover, foreign policy? Yes, they could just like that 10 years ago, so that only someone would blow the pipe.
          27. old man54
            old man54 17 August 2014 23: 59
            +1
            Quote: nycsson
            look at what our mediocre ostrich foreign policy has led .....

            Srglasen with you at 100%! Unfortunately, we must admit that nothing has changed in the authorities in the Russian Federation, although in March it seemed different, alas! The Kremlin is driven only by a thirst for money and power, and nothing more. Russia is worthy and should have much bolder and more pro-Russian people in power, patriots, worthy of ordinary Russians and their millennia of glory! After Putin allowed the Russians to be destroyed in the Donbass, having previously promised to intercede if necessary, he died for me, both as President and as a man! Man, if he’s a man, he won’t throw words into the wind!
            About your video: oh, a couple of AGS-17 are missing there, in a good position under crossfire, and everything would be fine then! wink laughing
          28. Manul
            Manul 18 August 2014 00: 15
            +1
            Quote: nycsson
            look at what our mediocre ostrich foreign policy has led ......

            As far as one can judge, there are not so many of them. And a couple of thousand frostbite brains can be typed everywhere. Especially with absolutely suppressed (cut out) opposition opinion.
            Secondly, why are we belittling ourselves again? Let’s highlight the main thing - anti-Russian sentiments are raised by Americans for a lot of money. If it weren’t for this, then nothing like this would happen.
        3. pts-m
          pts-m 17 August 2014 11: 45
          +2
          but my opinion is that they have a flag in their hands and a bargain is ensured. for that the wukras fought for it and ran into it !!!
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        5. Zhekson
          Zhekson 17 August 2014 14: 06
          +1
          as the classic said, the revolution devours its children ..
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      3. BOB044
        BOB044 17 August 2014 10: 51
        +6
        This picture hit the mark. That is how we are in captivity against the war, we want to go home to Zhonka. And how to fight so with the civilian population, to shell cities and towns with heavy artillery.
      4. nycsson
        nycsson 17 August 2014 11: 17
        -4
        Quote: MIKHAN
        They will answer for all the bastards ..

        Before whom?
        Quote: MIKHAN
        I think if nuclear weapons at the junta would strike without hesitation ...

        Well you generally burn ..... wassat
        1. Oprychnyk
          Oprychnyk 17 August 2014 13: 45
          +2
          With this approach to international affairs, this is real. Otherwise, why should they demand the return of nuclear weapons to Ukraine? And, if you remember, whom did Yulia Volodimirovna want to burn with nuclear weapons there now who went underground? Itam there are many such inadequacies.
          1. Oprychnyk
            Oprychnyk 17 August 2014 16: 15
            +2
            Yes, I will. As far as I remember, no one at the military has ever even expressed an opinion about the possibility of using nuclear weapons against Ukraine. And on ukrosaytah from Svidomo almost every day you can find mention of such an opportunity on their part. "If it were, then we would ..."
            1. Bayonet
              Bayonet 17 August 2014 16: 49
              +2
              Quote: Oprychnyk
              "If it were, then we would ..."

              If my grandmother had eggs - she would be a grandfather!
    2. Eragon
      Eragon 17 August 2014 10: 45
      +14
      And what to expect from people whose national flag is a symbol of Down syndrome !!!
      Do not believe me?
      http://yablor.ru/blogs/simvol-sindroma-dauna/4580514
      Or google yourself.
      1. Irokez
        Irokez 17 August 2014 12: 12
        +6
        Quote: Eragon
        And what to expect from people whose national flag is a symbol of Down syndrome !!!
        Do not believe me?
        http://yablor.ru/blogs/simvol-sindroma-dauna/4580514
        Or google yourself.

        Yes it seems.
        1. Irokez
          Irokez 17 August 2014 12: 13
          +4
          And that’s why they are down.
      2. mirag2
        mirag2 17 August 2014 13: 20
        +1
        Yes, this symbol is not a flag, a yellow-blue ribbon is a symbol of solidarity with patients with Down Syndrome, a red ribbon is a symbol of solidarity with AIDS patients, they are sold - if I am not mistaken, such a ribbon cost $ 5-7 5-XNUMX years ago, this money went to the fund help the sick, depending on which tape you bought.
    3. armageddon
      armageddon 17 August 2014 10: 49
      +6
      Hmm ... Yes ... The thing is that the USA gave the green light to the destruction of the population !!! And do not need to build illusions ... The states only need territory ... For the production of shale gas !!! And the fact that in public they threaten the junta with a finger ... Nothing but reinsurance ... Suddenly the truth will come out about the number of civilian casualties in the Southeast !!!
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 17 August 2014 11: 25
        -25
        Quote: Armagedon
        For the production of shale gas !!!

        Yes, it's all debatable! There is a redistribution of the gas market! By the way, and you, gentlemen forum users in the know or not? Parliament adopted a law on sanctions against Russia. In one of the points RESTRICTION OF TRANSIT OF OUR GAS THROUGH THE TERRITORY OF UKRAINE !!! So much for firewood! laughing I can’t rzhu! What wretched and brainless rulers we have! am And it’s better not to talk about the stupidity of our population ....... And I told you all half a year ago, or even more, that they would shut off the crane for us! How much screeching was supposedly not possible. The action of Western countries does not lend itself at all to any logic, since they are directed against themselves. Take the sanctions. They're big bargaining chip politics ....
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 17 August 2014 13: 23
          +7
          Overlapping the crane will create MORE problems for the EU than for US, and you, comrade, purely provoke people here, I don’t know for the sake of something or for the sake of your perverted pleasure, or ... Yes, there is nothing more ...
          I doubt that your statements are worthy of attention, much less DISCUSSION.
          You'd better march in defense of NGOs, or "political prisoner of conscience Navalny" organized-on "Echo" -You go there, just. While Makarevich, God forbid, did not begin to "offend" the hero of the fight against stagnation.
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 17 August 2014 13: 41
            -13
            Quote: mirag2
            Overhead faucet will create MORE EU ​​problems

            But who cares about these problems, dear? Turn on your brains! fool
            Quote: mirag2
            rather than US

            When you have nothing to eat, then we'll talk .......
            Quote: mirag2
            You'd better march in defense of NGOs, or "political prisoner of conscience Navalny" organized-on "Echo" -You go there, just. While Makarevich, God forbid, did not begin to "offend" the hero of the fight against stagnation.

            Yes, this is your standard rhetoric .......
            1. mirag2
              mirag2 17 August 2014 13: 52
              +2
              When you have nothing to eat, then we'll talk

              Lord, and you already have NOTHING to eat? Are you waiting for me to become "hungry" or "a well-fed does not understand a hungry"?
              Your rhetoric also does not differ either in variety or in fantasy, although, sorry, it’s fantasy and is different. laughing
          2. Bashkaus
            Bashkaus 17 August 2014 17: 40
            +2
            And then you attacked the man, he, by the way, says it, I am also at a loss, the impression is that the world has gone crazy. That the policy of Kiev, that the policy of the EU, the impression is that people are deliberately chopping branches. This is a statement of fact and the question is only "WHAT FOR?"
            1. Bayonet
              Bayonet 17 August 2014 18: 11
              +2
              Quote: Bashkaus
              And then you attacked a man, he says incidentally

              If you are about Nixon, then this hysterical nonsense, you will not name efficient!
        2. Bayonet
          Bayonet 17 August 2014 16: 52
          +2
          Quote: nycsson
          ..And I told you all half a year ago, or even more, that the crane will be closed to us! How much screeching was supposedly not possible.

          And once again, without a squeal, I will say - this is not possible! In Europe, not as fools as you think!
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 17 August 2014 21: 51
            -1
            Quote: Bayonet
            And once again, without a squeal, I will say - this is not possible!

            And I tell you once again that this is a fait accompli!
            Quote: Bayonet
            In Europe, not as fools as you think!

            What does Europe have to do with it? request
          2. Normal
            Normal 17 August 2014 23: 11
            -1
            Quote: Bayonet
            And once again, without a squeal, I will say - this is not possible!


            And six months ago, would you say that shelling cities from MLRS and ballistic missiles is possible?

            Six months ago, I wrote such posts.
            Alexander romanov (3) RU 22 February 2014 16:28

            Putin does not recognize Bandera.


            And half a year has passed before I had the opportunity to answer

            Normal SU June 5, 2014 09:03 | Alexander Turchinov blocks the Russian-Ukrainian border

            QUESTION: The new President of Ukraine was elected democratically on May 25, this is Mr. Poroshenko. Do you acknowledge its legitimacy?

            VLADIMIR PUTIN: I have already said this, I want to repeat: we will respect and relate to the choice of the Ukrainian people and will work with the Ukrainian authorities.


            hello to Romanov!


            And about the termination of gas transit through Ukraine ...
            I also believe that one of the main goals of what is happening in Ukraine is to completely stop the supply of Russian gas to Europe and replace it with American shale.
            1. alexander 2
              alexander 2 18 August 2014 02: 25
              +1
              Well, where did Putin recognize Poroshenko? He repeatedly said that he would negotiate with anyone, even with terrorists, just to stop the bloodshed. I do not really support Putin in domestic politics, but he conducts foreign affairs quite correctly.
              1. Normal
                Normal 18 August 2014 02: 30
                -2
                Quote: Alexander 2
                Well, where did Putin recognize Poroshenko?


                God's dew?
    4. nycsson
      nycsson 17 August 2014 11: 18
      -11
      Quote: kot28.ru
      The Nazis are increasingly greyhound under the guise of countries geyropov and states

      Well, why not! With our then ostrich policy ..... Borzoi - I do not want! lol
      1. kyznets
        kyznets 17 August 2014 12: 02
        +15
        You comrade nycsson react somehow strange. Having closed the tap, they cut Europe with a razor on a codpiece, and we have both the northern stream and the Chinese direction. And even then, Europe will deal with Ukraine, so as not to switch to firewood. And most likely it will begin to agree with us how to restore order in Kiev and around. And the most real law enforcement officers are proven, fired upon, purposeful and more predictable militias of Novorosia. Europe will not be up to European integration. They will need to return the transit. And they are still for this, maybe we will pay the dill debts (here I seem to have deployed a very wide accordion). :)
        And if you are not happy with the behavior of our leadership, then over the past 29 years we have not had the best, and not only here, in the entire post-Soviet space. And in recent years, even in the USA, Europe and England there was no better leadership. Today, Putin, our Russian main secret weapon, is our Wunderwaffen.
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 17 August 2014 13: 53
          -17
          Quote: kyznets
          Having closed the tap, they cut Europe with a razor

          And this is what the USA needs! fool Or do you think that Europeans puppeteers in Ukraine?
          Quote: kyznets
          and we have a north stream

          The capacity of the northern stream, if I'm not mistaken, 15-20% of the Ukrainian GTS.
          Quote: kyznets
          and the Chinese direction.

          With this phrase you show your complete ignorance! According to the most optimistic forecasts, to extend a pipe to China, you need 6 years of continuous construction and billions of dollars! And where will you get these billions in the conditions of the economic war against Russia? fool
          You still remember about the southern stream! wassat The construction of which Bulgaria recently froze .... I will tell you so, run to the store and buy canned food with stewed meat and other necessary goods, before it is too late ....
          Quote: kyznets
          And even then, Europe will deal with Ukraine, so as not to switch to firewood.

          HA_HA_HA! Well, you give! I wonder how Europe will deal with Ukraine, and even then, when Yatsenyuk sold 49% GTS to amers ?! wassat You surprise and amaze me with your ignorance and political myopia!
          Quote: kyznets
          And if you are not satisfied with the behavior of our leadership, then over the past 29 years we have not had the best, and not only here, in the entire post-Soviet space.

          Lord Help to see the weak-witted ... After this phrase, everything is clear to you.
          1. Carbon40
            Carbon40 17 August 2014 14: 49
            +6
            No need to pull phrases out of context! The Chinese are investing 27 yards at once in construction.
            Why are you silent?
            You are very smart!
            And do not remember the Lord in vain ...
            1. Normal
              Normal 17 August 2014 23: 57
              -3
              Quote: Carbon40
              The Chinese are investing 27 yards at once in construction.

              It is in construction, and not in our economy.
              And the Chinese will invest 5 years at the same time at the same time?
          2. Irokez
            Irokez 17 August 2014 15: 01
            +3
            nycsson
            You, as an avid Stalinist, were stuck in the last century with your methods of solving problems. Hacking a saber will not work here as you suggest.
            The situation of Russia is still not so strong as to wave a saber, but it strengthens and strengthens and you yourself see it, but you don’t want to acknowledge the merit in this, oddly enough, not only of Putin, but also of his comrades-in-arms and team, which is both a supportive and united people with him. But this people still lives in other parts of the planet and more and more sees in it the truth.
            Don’t go in vain and you and we are all for the best for Russia and the world as a whole, but the paths are a little different and shove to tanks with a saber on your head as you propose - this is death, and after a stupid death of saber-grunts the enemy will win an easy victory and you then you’ll shout from the grave that you had to follow a different path.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 17 August 2014 15: 09
              +1
              sorry, how old are you?
          3. Bayonet
            Bayonet 17 August 2014 18: 05
            +2
            Quote: nycsson
            Lord Help see the weak-minded

            I hope the Lord will help you and give you reason! If it is still possible ...
            1. nycsson
              nycsson 17 August 2014 22: 01
              -1
              Quote: Bayonet
              I hope the Lord will help you and give you reason!

              Time will judge everyone and show who is with reason and who is not! Wait and see ..... A few months ago I claimed that we would be kicked out of the European gas market, then everyone wrote to me that I didn’t understand anything! Bulgaria has frozen the construction of the southern stream! Again I don't understand anything! laughing Ukraine adopted a law to limit the transit of our gas and the sale of 49% GTS to amers, again I don’t understand anything! laughing Listen, gentlemen, where is your logic?
            2. nycsson
              nycsson 17 August 2014 22: 24
              0
              Quote: Bayonet
              I hope the Lord will help you and give you reason!

              Watch the broadcast, reasonable .........
          4. Virrid
            Virrid 17 August 2014 22: 56
            0
            Dear Nixon, this is not the first time I have read your statements and they always differ in attempts to discredit one or another of the opinions of the opponents. And you are always trying to incite a non-constructive polemic, or rather to provoke a quarrel in a seemingly empty place ... (you are not a troll in the case? Dear?)
        2. Normal
          Normal 17 August 2014 23: 53
          -4
          Quote: kyznets
          And if you are not satisfied with the behavior of our leadership, then over the past 29 years we have not had the best, and not only here, in the entire post-Soviet space.

          Well, I don’t observe special reasons to be delighted with the actions of our leadership.
          And why for 29 years? Take a longer period then.
          In addition, it will be 10-15 years after Putin’s death, and we will learn a lot of things so that your opinion can change very much.

          Quote: kyznets
          Today Putin is our Russian main secret weapon


          Why secret? For whom is secret?
          In the West, a psychological portrait of the personality of GDP has long been compiled.
          It’s just that frank clans are in the window of power in the West, and against their background Putin looks advantageous. But it’s not Obama who determines politics there, people are smarter behind the scenes and they will probably use all of Putin’s weaknesses to their advantage.

          Quote: kyznets
          Our Wunderwaffen.


          Well, and to what positive effect (except for propaganda) did all GERMAN wunderwaffles have? Do not remind?

          While Hitler and Goebels (just like you now) fed the Germans with wunderwaffles, the fronts rolled towards Berlin, where ultimately everything ended despite the abundance of wunderwaffles.
      2. Bayonet
        Bayonet 17 August 2014 16: 57
        +2
        Quote: nycsson
        With our ostrich politics ...

        Well, if you think we have ostriches in the government, maybe the eagle is nicer for you ...
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 17 August 2014 22: 06
          0
          Quote: Bayonet
          Well, if you think we have ostriches in the government, maybe the eagle is nicer for you ...

          We have in the government id.io.ty who pursue an ostrich policy ..... You already got it with your jokes! I am Russian person! I was born in the USSR, I grew up and live in Russia. It's a shame for me for my homeland! Everyone writes here, look, they say, what a strong army we have, etc. etc. And at this time, Russians in the east of Ukraine are wetted by thousands ..... Since you are so smart, answer me a question. Why?
          1. Irokez
            Irokez 17 August 2014 22: 51
            +2
            Quote: nycsson
            And at this time, Russians in the east of Ukraine are wetted by thousands ..... Since you are so smart, answer me a question. Why?

            I'll try to answer for him.
            There is a saying "Measure seven times, cut once" and another "If there was no war" and the third "Of two evils, choose the lesser."
            Try to combine these sayings and get the answer (tea born in the USSR - you can think and logically think).
            There is still some educational and indicative component, but not all of them can understand. And the fact that blood is flowing is understood by everyone to a pain in the heart, and following the emotions is a defeat and they are sending us to this. But we are Soviet people and do not bow to anyone for it will be even worse.
            1. Normal
              Normal 18 August 2014 00: 09
              -2
              Quote: Irokez
              I'll try to answer for him.
              There is a saying "Measure seven times, cut once" and another "If there was no war" and the third "Of two evils, choose the lesser."


              And I will try to answer for him.

              There are such sayings; "My shirt is closer to the body", "My hut is on the edge - I don't know anything"
              And there is such a "perish yourself, and help your comrade"
              And another not stupid leader (I don’t remember who request ) said, "You had a choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor. Now you will get war!"

              Try to combine these sayings and statement, then maybe you will understand.
              1. Irokez
                Irokez 18 August 2014 11: 13
                +1
                "Your shirt is closer to your body"
                And this really is not an argument. There is no war in Russia so far and it seems to be not bad. Provocations on the border are not a war, but an attempt to unleash it.

                "My hut is on the edge - I don't know anything"
                Do not distort everything we know and see, and even more than a neighbor. Two families cannot live in the same house, here everything is also true. If the epidemic is in one house, then you can’t go there, but only help with medicines and so on, and most importantly, everyone in this house would like to be cured. You yourself can get infected and other infections.

                "Die yourself, but help your comrade out"
                Russia how many times has died and its people for "Comrades" lay down, and "Comrades" then spat at her and shot in the back. If in Novorossiya everyone is for Novorossiya, then where are the fighters standing in line for weapons? But won't it turn out that by helping our soldiers we will fight the junta and periodically hear from the locals "If it weren't for you, we would have lived well."
                The help to the militias is understandable - these are ours, but there are others - not ours, which among us will be invaders and occupiers, who will benefit the entire world community by accusing Russia of all mortal sins.
                This war is also a cleansing and cleansing of all the raids of Western European and New Russia, it is cleared at the cost of hardship and death, acquiring immunity from "Modern Democracy", and you propose to give a healing injection to the patient, but after recovery the immunity will not be there and the disease may reappear.
                Here is something like this for you to explain. Everything is much more complicated and deeper than just stupidly introducing troops and bast.
    5. Giant thought
      Giant thought 17 August 2014 11: 26
      +2
      The time will come, we believe in it, and the fascist junta will answer for all its crimes against humanity.
      1. huut
        huut 17 August 2014 11: 39
        +4
        Have you seen this? From 2: 10 min. Zakharchenko says that a reserve of 1200 people who studied in Russia for 4 months was collected and used. That is, we still help?

        1. alone
          alone 17 August 2014 12: 12
          +7
          Quote: huut
          That is, we still help?

          And do you think that without direct support they could hold out so much? More than half of the militia are Russian citizens.
          1. Was mammoth
            Was mammoth 17 August 2014 13: 00
            +5
            Quote: lonely
            And do you think that without direct support they could hold out so much? More than half of the militia are Russian citizens.

            Where did you get the data that most of the militias are Russian citizens? On ukrosaytah generally write that Ukraine is at war with Russia. Yesterday there was a reprint on the site that a GRU-FSB officer was shot for the fact that one of the trucks with humanitarian aid prematurely assumed a "combat" (?) Position. wink Transformers in a column with humanitarian aid! Bravo, KAMAZ! But, what is the XNUMXst century, however, in the yard?
            I think that today we’ll hear from Ukraine that they shot from Kamchatka. Psaka will confirm.
            1. alone
              alone 17 August 2014 13: 45
              -8
              Quote: There was a mammoth
              Where did you get the data that most of the militias are citizens of Russia?

              And in Donetsk airport on June 26, who died? All social networks explode with reports that a Russian citizen died in battles, or in another place.
              Shooters US citizen? Is Motorola a French citizen? Maybe Kozitsyn and his Cossacks from Denmark sailed? Where did the Ossetians and Abkhaz come from? And all this comes through Russia. Where did the militia get the Crimean equipment? How did it get there?
              Some have long been accustomed to behaving the way an ostrich behaves in danger.
              1. Cynic
                Cynic 17 August 2014 17: 26
                +6
                Quote: lonely
                all social networks explode with reports that a Russian citizen died in battles, then in another place.

                Hmm, here recently some gentlemen also referred to social networks as sources of information.
                And with whom are you, among them, classmates?
                hi
                1. alone
                  alone 17 August 2014 22: 59
                  0
                  go to the site "Russian spring". so there are materials about the citizens of Russia who died in Donbass. just don't need to tell me that, that site is also Kiev. it just represents the interests of the militia. here is at least a link to one such material. /rusvesna.su/news/1401552183 There are at least two out of five citizens of Russia.
                  1. Cynic
                    Cynic 18 August 2014 12: 47
                    +1
                    Quote: lonely
                    go to the site "Russian Spring". So there are materials about the citizens of Russia who died in Donbass.

                    But do not, in your comments you can clearly see _
                    A citizen of the Russian Federation is a serviceman of the Russian Federation! Who went to the aid of the Militia at the command of the fathers of commanders!
                    The militia has citizens of the Russian Federation and other countries, including the EU! There are among them those who died, war without victims does not happen.
                    But I repeat once again, Russian citizens fighting in the militia _ VOLUNTEERS, not soldiers sent on command! Prove the opposite!
                    You are not the only one who reads "Russian Spring".
              2. Was mammoth
                Was mammoth 17 August 2014 22: 31
                +2
                Quote: lonely
                Shooters US citizen?

                And Poroshenko, Klitschko, Yatsenyuk? Whose citizens? And the servants?
                I am proud of volunteers from Russia with burning hearts. As well as volunteers from other countries. They, like the ostrich, do not behave exactly.
                1. alone
                  alone 17 August 2014 23: 01
                  -1
                  Quote: There was a mammoth
                  I am proud of volunteers from Russia with burning hearts. As well as volunteers from other countries. They, like the ostrich, do not behave exactly.


                  Well then, admit that everyone already knows. Why deny that everyone knows that already))) Then they are not there, then you are proud of them. Decide finally))
              3. Rock2
                Rock2 19 August 2014 12: 42
                0
                And who is the whole floor in the SBU busy with? AND? Where are Polish, American mercenaries, Polish and Hungarian weapons? All this comes through Ukraine! Guide urine with outstretched hand runs around Europe, asks for weapons (this is a fact)! What are you talking about? And there, and there is help! What's next?
          2. kergudu straight
            kergudu straight 17 August 2014 13: 35
            +1
            Quote: lonely
            Quote: huut
            That is, we still help?

            And do you think that without direct support they could hold out so much? More than half of the militia are Russian citizens.

            Once again, Russians are fighting for ukrov, and a crowd of "refugees" in Russia are waiting and scolding them, remembering how they lived well in banderlogy
            1. huut
              huut 17 August 2014 15: 11
              +2
              Quote: Kergudo Straight
              Once again, Russians are fighting for ukrov, and a crowd of "refugees" in Russia are waiting

              Zakharchenko does not say that these are Russian people and equipment. The literal meaning is that people from the militia studied on the territory of the Russian Federation, there can be any citizenship.
              And about the equipment you can understand so that it could be equipment captured in the boiler, for example, driven off to the Russian Federation, there is a repair and back. Or the same "boiler" equipment, but repaired and collected in reserve in Novorossiya itself, without the participation of the Russian Federation.
              In his speech, only the words about training the militia on the territory of the Russian Federation can be unambiguously interpreted, that's all. About the technique it is already "maybe, probably, possible." And it’s not even a fact that crowds of trained armed militias staggered back and forth across the border, which could be labeled "Russian troops." They could come to us unarmed, learn, just go there unarmed, and get weapons there. That is, unarmed people would walk, and the trained or the militias go and prove it. And it's not a fact that they were trained by army structures, they could train privately, paintball has not yet been canceled.
              Only the West and Kiev do not care about it, they will give information in the way that is beneficial to them, which means it will be "1200 trained Russian military".
              And it turns out that our words about non-involvement are not true, 1200 people to train it is not 5-10 specialists to train. It’s not clear whether Zakharchenko blurted out, or he deliberately opened it. In both versions, direct open spaces for intellectuals.
              1. alone
                alone 17 August 2014 15: 47
                -2
                Well, of course .30 tanks, 120 armored vehicles and 1200 trained warriors descended from heaven by parachutes. Especially tanks and armored vehicles. They probably bought in bulk at a discount)))
                1. huut
                  huut 17 August 2014 16: 27
                  +1
                  Quote: lonely
                  Well, of course .30 tanks, 120 armored vehicles and 1200 trained warriors parachuted from heaven.

                  Theoretically: in a southern boiler, I read, they took 70 units of equipment. They added captured in other areas and removed something from other directions. Reduced into a single reserve.

                  For people: they recruited inexperienced Donetsk militias, sent them on their own to the Russian Federation, to the countryside, where they ran for 4 months with toy guns through forests and fields. They returned, received weapons and uniforms.

                  The Russian Federation can only blame some negligence in guarding the border, and that is not necessary if they crossed legally. And why not legal, if without a weapon?
                  So it turns out that these are Novorossiysk reserves, the Russian Federation has nothing to do with it. Legally. I don’t actually know.
                  With this version, Zakharchenko's “blooper” ceases to be a blooper. Yes, we studied in the Russian Federation, but in the Russian Federation it is not forbidden to play "Zarnitsa".
                  1. huut
                    huut 17 August 2014 20: 07
                    +2
                    Look, even the Russian media are especially worried and write that "Zakharchenko announced that the militiamen received military equipment from Russia. He claimed that the militia received 150 units of military equipment from the Russian Federation, including 30 tanks."
                    http://ria.ru/world/20140817/1020357675.html

                    And here is what Zakharchenko said:“In the course of reforming the army, reserves of the following plan were collected: 150 units of military equipment, of which, however, about 30 tanks, everything else - infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers. 1200 personnel who were trained for 4 months in the territory of the Russian Federation. " The video is above.

                    WHERE is there the words "that the militias received from the Russian Federation 150 units of military equipment" ??
                    He claimed that reserves were collected by 150 technology. Not received from the Russian Federation, not stolen in the Russian Federation, just collected. Why not from China, write? You never know where the personal composition was acquired, this was not related to technology. And this is not written by the Censor, not the Times, not Build, but RIA Novosti.
                2. 23 region
                  23 region 17 August 2014 22: 22
                  +1
                  Quote: lonely
                  Especially tanks and armored vehicles

                  You need to listen carefully to the interview. It does not say that the equipment is from the Russian Federation. It is said that it is and is collected in a fist.
        2. mirag2
          mirag2 17 August 2014 14: 01
          0
          Just going to see it.
      2. Lelek
        Lelek 17 August 2014 11: 49
        +1
        It is a pity only at the time of this beautiful life, neither HER nor HIM will have to. soldier
        1. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov 17 August 2014 12: 05
          +12
          So it will be with everyone .. (this lucky mom saved ..)
      3. nycsson
        nycsson 17 August 2014 14: 32
        0
        Quote: Thought Giant
        The time will come, we believe in it, and the fascist junta will answer for all its crimes against humanity.

        What's the point? Watch the video! Who will restore it all! Complete devastation ...
    6. CHILD
      CHILD 17 August 2014 12: 10
      +3
      ... it’s bad for the dill to march if it’s already reached tactical missiles ... then what, will there be carpet bombing of cities? But they have less time, winter is just around the corner, and there is no money ... the last reserves .. ..
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 17 August 2014 12: 25
        +2
        Quote: KIND
        ... it’s bad for the dill to march if it’s already reached tactical missiles ... then what, will there be carpet bombing of cities? But they have less time, winter is just around the corner, and there is no money ... the last reserves .. ..

        This has long been understood ... that's just peaceful destroy en masse! In Israel, 2000 in a couple of weeks ... The junta wants to break the record! It's a shame that they will all fall down then giggling maliciously and counting the profits ...
      2. 23 region
        23 region 17 August 2014 12: 30
        +1
        Quote: KIND
        ... it’s bad for the dill to do business if they have already reached tactical missiles ... then what, will there be carpet bombing of cities?

        I think there will be flying saucers. And build a super tank. History moves in a spiral. Remember the agony of the 3rd Reich?
    7. vell.65mail.ru
      vell.65mail.ru 17 August 2014 12: 13
      +1
      A country where now no one is responsible for anything. Maybe it's still the vital interests of Russia, and not the states.
    8. fox21h
      fox21h 17 August 2014 12: 43
      +1
      It’s good that these crazy people don’t have nuclear weapons, it’s scary to think about what troubles they could have done to them, then Russia would have to screw this similarity to the state on the ground and would not help any p.ed.d.s. s and euro-buggers
    9. Alfizik
      Alfizik 17 August 2014 14: 43
      +3
      And why are "fascists more and more greedy"? They no longer need Novorossiya, because this is a headache and financial "pain" for many years to come. So "we will destroy it to the ground, and then ..." On the day of Ukraine's independence, Poroshenko will announce the federalization, and possibly the withdrawal of Donetsk and Lugansk, a terrorist region, from the Great Ukraine. And before the Nazis, it will justify itself by the fact that Novorossia is already ... an apocalypse for the Colorado, so let them toil. And let Russia toil at the same time.
      1. Evilcat
        Evilcat 17 August 2014 21: 14
        +2
        And why are the fascists in quotation marks? And why is Novorossia not needed? Yes, right-wingers are now fully replenishing their battalions. And, characteristically, the oath is all masked. Why hide the muzzle? Are the fears of the answers?
  2. fvandaku
    fvandaku 17 August 2014 10: 25
    +6
    Well, the junta has no nuclear weapons, otherwise they would have found a reason to use it. Guess who would be to blame.
    1. enot73
      enot73 17 August 2014 10: 32
      +7
      Quote: fvandaku
      Well, the junta has no nuclear weapons, otherwise they would have found a reason to use it
      Apparently, the junta has no shells for artillery and MLRS left, and the artillery itself and MLRS installations are getting smaller and smaller. So the "last arguments" are being used. In addition, at the "points" the radius of destruction is large and the cowardly Ukrainian military may not fear that they will be captured by the rebels.
      1. Lich
        Lich 17 August 2014 10: 42
        +12
        Russian winter helped us in 1812, helped in 1941 ... It will help in 2014 too!

        Zimushka, come, put things in order!
        1. cosmos132
          cosmos132 17 August 2014 11: 59
          +1
          And the winter will be cold. And Yarosh will help us with a trip to Kiev.
        2. kyznets
          kyznets 17 August 2014 12: 19
          +20
          I apologize, but in 1941 winter was a secondary, even tertiary factor. The primary factor was those fighters of the Red Army who did not allow the Nazis to approach Moscow before the winter, and also who made the Nazis squeeze all their resources from their tanks away from Moscow. All the same, in 1812 and 1941, as now, the main military resource in our country is people. Strong in spirit, unpredictable and well trained.
      2. askort154
        askort154 17 August 2014 10: 50
        +12
        enot73 ...... Apparently there are no more shells for artillery and MLRS, and the artillery itself is getting smaller and smaller. So the "last arguments" are being used.

        They need to crush the militias before August 24 - the day of "Ukraine's independence".
        Therefore, they do everything. It is really good that they took away atomic weapons and the Tu-160.
        These nonhumans without hesitation would organize the 3rd World War.
  3. igor1981
    igor1981 17 August 2014 10: 27
    +6
    It’s just not human and reckoning for the deed will follow necessarily.
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  4. Homo sapiens
    Homo sapiens 17 August 2014 10: 31
    +8
    The sleep of reason begets monsters ....
    1. sub307
      sub307 17 August 2014 11: 49
      +4
      "Sleep of reason" implies its presence. And, in this case, there are signs of the absence of "reason", so that there is nothing to sleep.
    2. Lelek
      Lelek 17 August 2014 11: 52
      +4
      "Fantasy without reason gives birth to monsters." (Francisco Goya). fool
      1. Homo sapiens
        Homo sapiens 18 August 2014 00: 59
        0
        “The dream of reason gives birth to monsters” (Spanish: El sueño de la razón produce monstruos) is a Spanish proverb, the plot of the famous etching by Francisco Goya of the Capriccios cycle.
  5. siberalt
    siberalt 17 August 2014 10: 32
    +6
    God saw, did not leave ukram "core"! That in the photo to send Obama as an appendix to his Nobel Prize for Peace, damn it!
    1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 17 August 2014 12: 13
      +2
      This nobel is like a diploma from an underpass!
  6. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 17 August 2014 10: 32
    +4
    Absolutely brutalized. Poison pours from them. But the reckoning is near, for everything they will receive in full. soldier am
  7. Veteran of the Red Army
    Veteran of the Red Army 17 August 2014 10: 33
    +5
    that in conditions of low qualification, the lack of digital maps of the territory of the Ukrainian General Staff, the use of this class of missile weapons can only lead to a massive, non-selective defeat of civilian objects and the deaths of dozens of people.


    And if they start to think a little, it could be even worse.
  8. pronindacha
    pronindacha 17 August 2014 10: 34
    +9
    Critters, there’s nothing more to add.
  9. DMB-88
    DMB-88 17 August 2014 10: 34
    +4
    If the People’s Army had more strength, artillery and more tanks, the situation at the front would immediately change for the better!
    1. SibRUS
      SibRUS 17 August 2014 10: 38
      +17
      Help is coming ... It is worth paying attention to the armor.
      1. boozer
        boozer 17 August 2014 10: 44
        +12
        Fawn of course with the 82 armored personnel carrier, maybe of course this is a stuffing desa ...
        1. TiGRoO
          TiGRoO 17 August 2014 11: 13
          +5
          Not stuffing BTR-82 only in the arsenal of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
          Just a local man burned the guys ...
          And so the militias themselves (the army of New Russia) do not officially confirm the help from the fraternal people winked
          1. TiGRoO
            TiGRoO 17 August 2014 11: 15
            +1
            ~ 1200 people, 30 tanks (mainly T-72) and 120 units of armor (BTR-82 and BMP).
            Some of the people are militias who underwent military training on the territory of the Russian Federation.
            Most are Chechens.
            1. TiGRoO
              TiGRoO 17 August 2014 11: 18
              +7
              Crossed the border from about a week ago. Why did our help now? They say because of the Hungarians and Canadians, who supply the equipment and ammunition to the Ukrainians, since you are impudent. then we will begin. soldier
          2. Oprychnyk
            Oprychnyk 17 August 2014 13: 47
            +2
            It is not clear where it is and who it is. Stuffing!
          3. Bayonet
            Bayonet 17 August 2014 17: 01
            +2
            Quote: TiGRoO
            Not stuffing BTR-82 only in the arsenal of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
            Just a local man burned the guys ...

            How burned, if everyone knows that the BTR-82 is only in Russia? The one who sent him to the militia could burn, but most likely this is a fake!
            1. TiGRoO
              TiGRoO 17 August 2014 23: 19
              0
              The enemy did not have the opportunity to photograph. and even more so to shoot a video.
          4. capysta
            capysta 17 August 2014 17: 25
            +1
            in Ukraine there are modernized armored personnel carriers - 70 with a turret cannon-machine gun installation
            1. TiGRoO
              TiGRoO 17 August 2014 23: 22
              0
              BTR-70 and BTR-82 will be distinguished even by a child! fool
              1. TiGRoO
                TiGRoO 17 August 2014 23: 40
                0
                So compare ...
        2. alone
          alone 17 August 2014 12: 13
          +1
          There is also a video of the militia with BTR-82. So it’s unlikely to fawn
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        4. RUSS
          RUSS 17 August 2014 13: 43
          +3
          Quote: boozer
          Fawn of course with the 82 armored personnel carrier, maybe of course this is a stuffing desa ...



          The installation is balcony.
        5. Cynic
          Cynic 17 August 2014 17: 40
          0
          Quote: boozer
          Palevo of course with BTR 82,

          And why is it actually not the BTR-80A?
          stop
          1. TiGRoO
            TiGRoO 17 August 2014 23: 46
            +1
            It is unlikely that the BTR-80a did little.
            1. Cynic
              Cynic 18 August 2014 13: 06
              0
              Quote: TiGRoO
              It is unlikely that the BTR-80a did little.

              Yes, it doesn’t matter!
              Why is our favorite Jenny silent?
              The video is posted on social networks so beloved by the State Department! No would refer!
              Everything looks like a game _ YES and NO to not speak, BLACK with WHITE not to wear!
              In other words, Jenny and others like her, about the Russian Federation and the Militia can carry a complete nonsense, but WITHOUT CONCRETE!
              Something immediately recalled Yusovskaya specialists who disappeared in Ukraine and why would it?
              drinks
      2. kashtak
        kashtak 17 August 2014 11: 10
        +5
        "It is worth paying attention to the armor" drew, and not only to the armor. but also on figures. photoshop? did it yourself or downloaded it from?
        1. TiGRoO
          TiGRoO 17 August 2014 11: 13
          +4
          Videos posted yesterday, photos from the video.
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          1. jPilot
            jPilot 17 August 2014 13: 47
            0
            This is to make it easier to identify the BTR-82 laughing but who really wants to believe fool
          2. Bayonet
            Bayonet 17 August 2014 17: 05
            -2
            Quote: 76rtbr
            LEFT HAND WHERE DROPPED !!!

            Jo. that is, his back is swelling ...
      3. Rebus
        Rebus 17 August 2014 11: 25
        +9
        Not only is it Photoshop, it’s also a picture from Bandera’s resource ... This is terry disinformation.
        Here's the picture:
        http://twitter.com/esken_h/statuses/500666595891752960
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 17 August 2014 11: 57
          +4
          Right Base bullshit. bully
          1. SibRUS
            SibRUS 17 August 2014 12: 17
            +4
            May be. But there is such a video, on the second one can again notice the same APC.

        2. Patton5
          Patton5 17 August 2014 13: 10
          +7
          Not only is it Photoshop, it’s also a picture from Bandera’s resource ... This is terry disinformation.
          Here's the picture:
          Yes, you are an expert, as I take a look
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 17 August 2014 17: 10
            0
            In which year is it filmed and where?
            1. TiGRoO
              TiGRoO 17 August 2014 23: 25
              0
              And you can’t look at the date in the description on YouTube? fool
              1. Bayonet
                Bayonet 18 August 2014 06: 35
                0
                Quote: TiGRoO
                And you can’t look at the date in the description on YouTube?

                I looked here, not on YouTube. Smiley return - fool
          2. DEfindER
            DEfindER 17 August 2014 17: 18
            +5
            Regarding the video from BTR 82, I don’t see a single St. George ribbon on the fighters, in addition, they shout to Allah Akbar, most likely somewhere in Chechnya, the exercises were filmed ..
            1. Patton5
              Patton5 17 August 2014 17: 59
              +3
              I salute your patriotism !!! But the obvious cannot be denied, it’s not smart! It would be better to understand why the militias behave so carelessly !? Or this is targeted trolling!
            2. TiGRoO
              TiGRoO 17 August 2014 23: 15
              +2
              The car with the Ukrainian license plate takes off the militia, he uploaded the video before help from us ... As you are all, with your doubt from scratch am
              1. DEfindER
                DEfindER 18 August 2014 09: 29
                0
                Quote: TiGRoO
                The car with the Ukrainian number takes off the militia

                Yes, it’s not clear why he’s so carelessly or deliberately taking off his car’s license numbers. If with an armored personnel carrier it’s still a stuff, then this time it’s necessary to admit it is high-quality and thoughtful .. And who knows this militia in which brigade he is?
                1. TiGRoO
                  TiGRoO 18 August 2014 10: 21
                  0
                  On YouTube, he has a channel, and there are a lot of videos before help from the Russian Federation.
                  Here is the video of July 30
                  1. TiGRoO
                    TiGRoO 18 August 2014 10: 28
                    0

                    But with the captured ukrams of July 29
        3. Bayonet
          Bayonet 17 August 2014 17: 08
          +3
          Quote: Rebus
          Not only is it Photoshop, it’s also a picture from Bandera’s resource ... This is terry disinformation.
          Here's the picture:

          Right! There she is -
      4. DEfindER
        DEfindER 17 August 2014 16: 46
        +3
        Quote: SibRUS
        It is worth paying attention to the armor.

        The picture is not a photoshop campaign, but I see no signs that the militias are in the photo, most likely it is somewhere in Russia. And on the network, by the way, this photo is only in one size, there is neither the original nor the similar ones.
        1. Patton5
          Patton5 17 August 2014 18: 10
          +4
          network by the way this photo is only in one size, there is neither the original nor similar
          Because it’s a screenshot from the video posted four posts above. It’s stupid to argue that the photo is stuffed if there are three videos for the authorship of one person ... There’s something else when Zakharchenko gives out the information, these videos immediately appear ... Something is wrong here! Or it’s time for me to turn to a psychiatrist, I’ve completely ceased to understand anything belay
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 17 August 2014 18: 36
            +1
            war 08.08.08
            Quote: Bayonet
            In which year is it filmed and where?
            1. TiGRoO
              TiGRoO 17 August 2014 23: 12
              +1
              BTR-82 in 2008? Are you raving
              1. TiGRoO
                TiGRoO 17 August 2014 23: 34
                -1
                People I wrote to you all above, who - when and how much, which one do you start to argue?
                The militia posted the video, the militia wasn’t the video, but the guys from the Russian Federation, the fighting along the way from Dmitrovka to Snezhnoy (DPR), there were no St. George ribbons, because they had only crossed the border for a week (that's why the white blindfolds), most of the group were cheated.
                Ukrainians and pendos * sys know about this, as well as ours about the help of NATO Ukrainians. Officially, no one will confirm.
                Zakharchenko blundered foolishly (apparently thought ours would officially be announced).
                The militias themselves do not officially confirm this.
                Please stop arguing with people who are up to date. request
                1. TiGRoO
                  TiGRoO 18 August 2014 10: 16
                  0
                  Here is the video (a lined up truck and the corpses of Ukrainians) of this militia from July 30, 2014, who does not believe that he is a militia and this is supposedly a stuffing (the video he shot from BTR-82)
                  1. TiGRoO
                    TiGRoO 18 August 2014 10: 18
                    0
                    In this video (and others to help from the Russian Federation), he seems an adequate man request
  10. shishakova
    shishakova 17 August 2014 10: 35
    +1
    How is it possible to destroy your people ?!
    Why is silent democratic america?!
    Why no negotiation?
    1. Status
      Status 17 August 2014 11: 24
      +3
      Why so correct? Rhetorical questions, no answer, the world has changed, a policy of double standards in action.

      One strikes - how long will our "partners" please?
    2. SeAl2014
      SeAl2014 17 August 2014 13: 06
      +2
      This is war, baby!
  11. mig31
    mig31 17 August 2014 10: 36
    +3
    The weapon of fascist diplomacy for the establishment of Fashington "democracy", something like this ...
  12. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 17 August 2014 10: 37
    +23
    I don’t understand the logic of using such a weapon. If it is not equipped with "special ammunition", then it should be used against objects of special importance, such as bridges, corps or army headquarters or depots of fuel and lubricants or large-volume ammunition. The Donbass militia is semi-partisan formations and, in principle, do not possess anything of this. So for what strategic goal was such an expensive type of weapon launched? Some kind of near-war sur.
    1. svp67
      svp67 17 August 2014 10: 41
      +6
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      So for what strategic purpose did they launch such an expensive type of weapon?
      Most likely, according to one of you listed, but the thing is that Russian satellites are needed to direct these missiles, if you use other ones, the result on 80% will be a miss ...
      1. andj61
        andj61 17 August 2014 10: 49
        +13
        I will add that the highest qualification of calculations is still required, this is especially true for officers. In the Ukrainian army, during the independence period, exercises were carried out once - and the missilemen "distinguished themselves": they got into a residential building. It's good that instead of a warhead there was an imitation, there were few casualties. The use of Soviet missiles only by pressing a button is impossible: it also requires a head and hands.
        I used to think that even the use of large caliber and MLRS in a residential area could not be stopped by Russia, and now operational-tactical missiles are used - and there is practically no noise. It is very strange - Russia should simply shout about such facts at any opportunity, and better and not just shout!
        1. svp67
          svp67 17 August 2014 11: 29
          +5
          Good afternoon. Rate and rejoice at the work of the republican artillery, their skill and coherence is growing just before our eyes ...

          1. melnik
            melnik 17 August 2014 13: 14
            +2
            Gods of War ... where the hell. Russian artillery
        2. Evilcat
          Evilcat 17 August 2014 21: 24
          +1
          I thought that someone else would speak directly on the topic, but did not wait for the expected. Battle imitation, say few victims? Well, it's you, right in vain. And two or three people who were killed by a training rocket in their own home are many. Apparently already forgotten how ukrovoyaki and the then government consecrated events. But I remember. Training missile! What is it like???
          I didn’t think that the photos still remained, and I was mistaken. Here, admire. And compare with the photo in the article. How can this be? How could this odorobla fall flat? Somehow I do not want to believe that this is a fake.
      2. Mooh
        Mooh 17 August 2014 12: 45
        +3
        Most likely, according to one of you listed, but the thing is that Russian satellites are needed to direct these missiles, if you use other ones, the result on 80% will be a miss ...

        Do not forget about sabotage. It seems to me that people who are able to control such equipment cannot but understand the criminality of its use against the population. So they beat in white light like a penny. And the authorities are told that the equipment is old, and the satellites of the wrong system.
        1. svp67
          svp67 17 August 2014 13: 03
          +2
          Quote: MooH
          Do not forget about sabotage.
          Yes, there have already been cases when UkrVVS planes bombed and stormed Explicitly clean fields ...
      3. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 17 August 2014 15: 25
        +3
        Quote: svp67
        Most likely, according to one of you listed, but the thing is that Russian satellites are needed to direct these missiles, if you use other ones, the result on 80% will be a miss ...

        But this is crazy. The militia units are not very large, to the company. The headquarters are extremely mobile and certainly are not located in seriously protected bunkers. The question is nah?
        If there is a mass of SZO and 152 mmm receiver artillery, it is possible to carry out fire cover to a depth of up to 25 km without problems, and with absolute superiority in the air, work quietly at the rear. It’s crazy to use weapons of such power for empty folding.
        1. novobranets
          novobranets 17 August 2014 17: 26
          +1
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          It’s crazy to use weapons of such power for empty folding.

          I agree with you, madness. But how much did you see logical and correct in the ATO? The junta is losing, Obama is draining the pig (http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1415474/), now the last reserves and funds are being used. Agony.
    2. Oprychnyk
      Oprychnyk 17 August 2014 10: 42
      +4
      Right. From a gun on sparrows ...
    3. DV69
      DV69 17 August 2014 10: 43
      +3
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      I don’t understand the logic of using such a weapon. If it is not equipped with "special ammunition", then it should be used against objects of special importance, such as bridges, corps or army headquarters or depots of fuel and lubricants or large-volume ammunition. The Donbass militia is semi-partisan formations and, in principle, do not possess anything of this. So for what strategic goal was such an expensive type of weapon launched? Some kind of near-war sur.


      The strategic goal is the people of New Russia. Moreover, for the Kiev authorities it does not matter whether this people is armed or not.
      1. kashtak
        kashtak 17 August 2014 11: 24
        +2
        the population is dispersed over the area. such a complex is effective for point targets. where is the logic? a volley of hail or even a tornado is much more dangerous. I ask the military to explain if not right.
        1. svp67
          svp67 17 August 2014 13: 06
          0
          Quote: kashtak
          the population is dispersed over the area. such a complex is effective for point targets. where is the logic? a volley of hail or even a tornado is much more dangerous. I ask the military to explain if not right.
          When using a cassette warhead, "Tochka-u" is capable of "guaranteed" to destroy everything in a strip 100 meters wide and 300 meters long and not only that ...
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 17 August 2014 15: 33
            +1
            Quote: svp67
            When using a cassette warhead, "Tochka-u" is capable of "guaranteed" to destroy everything in a strip 100 meters wide and 300 meters long and not only that ...

            In open areas and railway. And in development, the lethal force of cluster munitions is reduced by an order of magnitude.
    4. igor1981
      igor1981 17 August 2014 10: 44
      +6
      They do not care what to shoot from, what is of it, and they destroy people and infrastructure. There is a punitive operation to destroy the population of Donbass. They do not need people. These creatures need territory.
      1. 23 region
        23 region 17 August 2014 12: 37
        +1
        Quote: igor1981
        They don't care what to shoot from

        Hatred covers the eyes. Give them a slingshot they will bullet from it, if only from far away. Hatred by hatred, but fearful to die. Fuck me, woe warriors!
        1. MAXIMUS
          MAXIMUS 17 August 2014 17: 30
          +2
          Quote: 23 region
          Quote: igor1981
          They don't care what to shoot from

          Hatred covers the eyes. Give them a slingshot they will bullet from it, if only from far away. Hatred by hatred, but fearful to die. Fuck me, woe warriors!


          Yes, they have already fired a slingshot at the Berkut soldiers on the Maidan. Their hatred is overwhelming.
    5. Iline
      Iline 17 August 2014 10: 50
      +3
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      So for what strategic purpose did they launch such an expensive type of weapon?

      And it is not expensive for them. They received it as a gift from the USSR. If they themselves bought or produced, then ten times they would have thought to shoot sparrows from these weapons.
      1. kyznets
        kyznets 17 August 2014 12: 34
        +2
        Yes, it's just that the current supreme Nazis have little time, so the VA-bank is coming, they beat everything that they have at their disposal. Everything that is in the bins is also bought on the side. Why save and save, when tomorrow their western masters can fix a shoe in the ass and put other thugs at the trough. Correctly say that it would have been nuclear weapons, would have long ago buzzed. They are not people, if the soul died, then they are zombies, golems. Only reflexes remained - to eat, sleep, have fun. That's exactly who "a colossus with feet of clay" is about. No soul, no conscience, no honor. Locusts.
    6. dima-fesko
      dima-fesko 17 August 2014 10: 52
      +6
      And the logic is simple. Ukrov are running out of ammunition. We must at least shoot something. But, apparently, they also do not have normal specialists operating the "point". So they shmalyat everywhere. Maybe I missed something, but lately I have not heard that "Ukrainians" would hit some large object (one-time) - a plant, bridges, a crossing, a large military unit, etc., which indirectly proves their inability. The scary thing is that the "point" can get into a residential area with all the consequences ...
      1. kergudu straight
        kergudu straight 17 August 2014 11: 19
        +2
        Quote: dima-fesko
        And the logic is simple. Ukrov are running out of ammunition. We must at least shoot something. But, apparently, they also do not have normal specialists operating the "point". So they shmalyat everywhere. Maybe I missed something, but lately I have not heard that "Ukrainians" would hit some large object (one-time) - a plant, bridges, a crossing, a large military unit, etc., which indirectly proves their inability. The scary thing is that the "point" can get into a residential area with all the consequences ...

        It will be more frightening if ent "silly" gets into some kind of plant, like "Stirol", then surely a big trouble cannot be avoided
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    8. FACKtoREAL
      FACKtoREAL 17 August 2014 11: 59
      +2
      The logic, it seems to me, is the following ...
      1. Production of "Tochka" is located in Russia.
      a). The life of missiles (complex) - expires \ expired ..
      b). Extend the term of exploitation. without the participation of the head developer (Votkinskiy plant, PA "Barrikady") - "not kosher" technically ...
      2. "Point" is also applied to:
      - To batteries of MLRS and ACS .. the damage from which exceeds the cost of the "Point"
      1. STALGRAD76
        STALGRAD76 19 August 2014 14: 41
        0
        In general, yes, most likely this version is more suitable, only the NGO "Barricades" is located in Volgograd.
        During the CTO in the TFR there were many facts of writing off frank "trash" to the b / d, I also saw ZIL 157 and a lot of things from storage and dismantled ........
    9. Bayonet
      Bayonet 17 August 2014 17: 16
      +1
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      I don’t understand the logic of using such weapons

      Purely psychological action - they want to intimidate. But unsuccessfully!
  13. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 17 August 2014 10: 38
    +4
    They are simply destroying the infrastructure and the population .. They (the junta and their owners) already understand that the South-East is lost .. They are trying to inflict maximum damage! I think they will still ruin our convoy with this "Point-U"
    1. FACKtoREAL
      FACKtoREAL 17 August 2014 12: 24
      0
      Quote: MIKHAN
      I think they will still play our convoy with this "Point-U" (I hope we will have time to shoot down)

      1. the meaning of dill in our humanitarian convoy under the auspices of the ICC "Tochki" to work "for a bag of saher" ??? belay
      2. It is unlikely that the Russian S-300 will operate as an "umbrella" over the territory of Ukraine, and the military air defense systems of the Buk type will not accompany the convoy.
    2. alone
      alone 17 August 2014 23: 03
      0
      )) The humanitarian convoy will have time to shoot down "Tochka-U".)))) Vitaly, what kind of humanitarian convoy is that shooting down a ballistic missile? Will they shoot down canned food? Sometimes you are talking such nonsense))) laughing Confess that you drank?)))
  14. andrei332809
    andrei332809 17 August 2014 10: 39
    +3
    in particular, American intelligence confirmed the fact of the launch by the Ukrainian military in the cities of Donbass.

    so then they denied it. and pentagons, and wise request "it doesn't happen, I remember here, I don't remember here" (c) what so, I think, they will drive hard here fool
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  16. gfhjkm
    gfhjkm 17 August 2014 10: 40
    +6
    And here are such fighters with us. Yes
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 17 August 2014 17: 26
      0
      Quote: gfhjkm
      But such fighters we have

      Thanks, downloaded. We will read! smile
  17. Drunya
    Drunya 17 August 2014 10: 41
    +18
    Stripping Miusinsk by Motorola squad 18 = (mat)
  18. antikilller55
    antikilller55 17 August 2014 10: 41
    +4
    Heroes are ready to shoot even from the king of the gun if only the Americans were satisfied. They haven’t been using their brain for a long time.
  19. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 17 August 2014 10: 42
    +6
    Senator McCain sent a letter to the Obamka demanding the start of the supply of weapons to the US. It was not for nothing that the piglet reported to the London prime minister about the "breakthrough of the Russian column and its defeat."
    One has a bad head after the Vietnamese captivity, the other has a "squirrel" on the basis of drunkenness against the background of Kropov's "victories".
    Funny company. And they still vote for such in the election.
  20. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 17 August 2014 10: 44
    +23
    They will bring the smell of dill to us ... something is already going on
    1. gfhjkm
      gfhjkm 17 August 2014 11: 07
      +7
      Ukraine has joined the EU. Sit two kuma crest drink.
      One asks: -shaw?
      The second answers: -Yes, this EU crap - I'm out of work, my wife washes the floors in Italy, my son married a German, my daughter is a prostitute in France !!! And in everything RUSSIA is to blame !!!! They told us: "do not join the EU, do not join the EU !!!" They knew the pads, sho we are spiteful! laughing
  21. kot28.ru
    kot28.ru 17 August 2014 10: 45
    +9
    Quote: shishakova
    How is it possible to destroy your people ?!
    Why is silent democratic america?!
    Why no negotiation?

    Because the states are the organizer of what is happening in Ukraine! hi
    1. gennady.ru
      gennady.ru 17 August 2014 15: 09
      +3
      Your democratic America is busy dispersing its unarmed, peaceful citizens in many cities in the United States. Using tear gas, batons and water cannons, well, as they say, by democratic methods. And they beat their democratic gifts with people who came out to protest against the murder of a minor, unarmed teenager by an armed police officer.
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  23. HAM
    HAM 17 August 2014 10: 48
    +5
    In my opinion, all THIS AGONY ukrovsk ... When a bandyuk loses his advantage, he goes to EVERYTHING, if they had a vigorous weapon, don’t hesitate, they would use it, the crook with a scythe laid everything out, foolishly.
  24. kot28.ru
    kot28.ru 17 August 2014 10: 48
    +5
    Quote: mig31
    The weapon of fascist diplomacy for the establishment of Fashington "democracy", something like this ...
    1. 23 region
      23 region 17 August 2014 12: 42
      +7
      So we got to ukrov
      1. MAXIMUS
        MAXIMUS 17 August 2014 17: 37
        +1
        Quote: 23 region
        So we got to ukrov


        Are these the same tankers whom I.I. Strelkov spoke about eliminating?
  25. Galandr
    Galandr 17 August 2014 10: 49
    +4
    Well, yes ... Only the other day there was news from the State Department that they supposedly warned the alumni against the use of heavy weapons against militias in order to minimize casualties among civilians ... Here you are, please: we see again the true face of American bullshit. Specially they say one thing, but they do it on the contrary, two-faced, immoral, deceitful and cruel ubl.ki! am angry am
  26. nablydatel
    nablydatel 17 August 2014 10: 50
    +4
    PII.PII.PII.PII.PII.Is words there is no one drooling and mats but they will not miss. as one character from the movie said rocket in my ass. here parashenko too.
  27. Drunya
    Drunya 17 August 2014 10: 55
    +11
    Tanks of New Russia go to liberate Donetsk from encirclement
    1. Rayden
      Rayden 17 August 2014 12: 52
      +3
      And the tanks are increasing, MLRS appeared, smartly soldier
  28. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 17 August 2014 10: 57
    +9
    Igor Ivanovich Strelkov (and the whole Russian world) will surely repeat this all! Many have forgotten what was happening ...
    1. Shveps
      Shveps 17 August 2014 11: 03
      +2
      TODAY:

      4.08.1326 (17.08 in a new style)
      In the days of the Assumption Lent at Vel. Prince John I Danilovich (Kalite) laid the Assumption Cathedral in the Moscow Kremlin
      The first stone cathedral of the Moscow Kremlin, the Assumption Assumption Cathedral became the tomb of the Moscow metropolitans, then the Patriarchs. The most solemn state and church acts - the wedding of the Russian Tsars to the kingdom, the erection of the patriarchal dignity - were made in this cathedral.
  29. thinker
    thinker 17 August 2014 11: 00
    +27
    Wise grandmother! good
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 17 August 2014 11: 31
      +2

      I’ve already laid it out, but it’s the way men are! When they grow wiser Stop pouring blood ...
      ,
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 17 August 2014 12: 56
      +16
      Well, there still seem to be reasonable ...

      BEAUTIFUL VERSES FROM A BEAUTIFUL UKRAINIAN GIRL WITH A LARGE GOOD HEART AND VERY SOE REASON.

      Forgive us, dear Russians.
      Earth is still spinning
      We have not ceased to be brothers to you.
      You are not betrayed by my motherland.

      Not the people that went to the square,
      Trying to sore say
      And those who bought our homeland,
      Bought to sell profitably.

      Rulers come and go
      Someone is remembered for a long time and kindly,
      But lumpy every president comes out
      Like the first pancake, in my native land.

      We quarreled from the screens and laughed,
      That the brothers quarreled to the nines,
      But we believe that we have remained people in our hearts,
      And carry each other in our arms;

      When someone of us is injured in the back,
      We will not recall citizenship,
      I believe that Ukraine cannot
      I don’t give a damn about the fraternal peoples.

      Forgive us for not letting you in
      On your own borders as enemies
      Sorry to trust the channels,
      Where we are considered all fools

      Show war, hysteria,
      And they get rations in dollars,
      But there is no Ukraine without Russia,
      As without a key, no lock is needed either.

      We are all one family, let them quarrel
      But quarrels do happen in the family;
      And most importantly, that we remain people,
      And not beasts ready for war

      For Earth, for vague ideas,
      Forgetting that children need peace!
      I don’t think differently
      And we are just a shooting gallery for our power,

      They want - they’ll send an army to us,
      If they want, they will introduce a tax on air;
      But they won't make Russia stop loving
      While we are together, God is with us!

      Victoria Andreevna
  30. DMB-75
    DMB-75 17 August 2014 11: 04
    +10
    Neither the OSCE nor the UN should be assembled, but a world congress of psychiatrists to establish a diagnosis of the dill junta and their accomplices from Sasha for using ballistic missiles against their population, m ... am am am
  31. aviamed90
    aviamed90 17 August 2014 11: 06
    +1
    Judging by the markings on the rocket ("9m79m"), this is really the OTR TRK "Tochka-U".
  32. Grim Reaper
    Grim Reaper 17 August 2014 11: 07
    -1
    Well, not point ballistic missiles. As a weapon of great destructive power - yes. As a weapon capable of striking strategic targets, yes. "Tornado", if used correctly, is even more terrible in terms of area. The subtlety is that "Tochka" is capable of carrying nuclear warheads and hitting extremely "concreted" positions. Special purpose weapons. And to beat foolishly half a ton of TNT in cities is nonsense. I do not understand. sad
    1. aviamed90
      aviamed90 17 August 2014 12: 12
      +4
      Eccilop

      "Well, not point ballistic missiles."

      Any TR or OTR is ballistic by definition. Not just ICBMs!

      For a very simple reason, it is a surface-to-surface missile. And the trajectory of such missiles is ballistic.

      Another question - for what purposes can it be effectively applied?
      Here I agree with you that gardens are not the best goal, given the cost of OTR itself.

      But Ukrainian warriors do not bother with such trifles.
      They are ready to "shoot" militias and civilians who disagree with them, ranging from ICBMs (which they do not have) to lard (which they also do not have, because lard, like OTP, is produced by Russians (lard is mostly imported from Rostov area))!
      1. Manul
        Manul 18 August 2014 00: 42
        0
        Quote: aviamed90
        gardens are not the best goal, given the cost of OTR itself.

        So these missiles have long worked out their resources. They would have to be written off, but here is a case for the junta to pull them. I really hope that it explodes right at the start am
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 17 August 2014 13: 05
      +1
      so no one can understand them at all
    3. Carbon40
      Carbon40 17 August 2014 14: 40
      +1
      Flies along a ballistic trajectory, then ballistic.
      As for the "Grad", I agree with you, in capable hands, a terrible weapon. He served on BM-21.
      They shot at night, the battery of 4 cars - as if the sun was rising!
  33. parafoiler
    parafoiler 17 August 2014 11: 13
    +2
    Lord, punish America!
  34. Drunya
    Drunya 17 August 2014 11: 13
    +6
    Militias in between battles: childishness and pity for conscripts (mate)
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  36. Everest2014
    Everest2014 17 August 2014 11: 25
    +5
    Over the years of development and operation of RK 9K79 (Point U), a wide range of types of combat equipment was created for it - warheads were developed and adopted, both in special (nuclear and chemical) and in conventional equipment. Performance characteristics of "conventional" warheads:
    9N123F - high-explosive fragmentation warhead of concentrated action, as part of 9M79F (9M79-1F) missiles. The mass of the warhead is 482 kg, the mass of the TG-20 explosive is 162,5 kg, the number of fragments is 14,5 thousand. The area of ​​damage is 2-3 ha. When approaching the target, the rocket completes a turn (in pitch angle) to provide an angle of charge meeting with a target close to 90 ° for the most efficient use of warhead explosion energy.
    9N123K - warhead warhead cartridge consisting of 9M79K (9M79-1K) missiles containing 50 9N24 fragmentation warheads (7,45 kg each, A-IX-20 explosive mass - 1,45 kg, 316 fragments). The weight of the warhead is 482 kg, the number of fragments is 15,8 thousand. Undermining the central charge and opening the warhead is initiated by a 9E326 type radio sensor at an altitude of 2250 m. The area of ​​damage is 3,5-7 ha. Such a warhead is intended to defeat manpower and unarmored equipment located in an open area;

    9N123F-R (9N123F-P2, 9N123F-R3) - high-explosive fragmentation warhead with passive radar GSN 9N215 as part of 9M79R anti-radar missiles (9M79FR, 9M79-1FR), with an RF like 9M79M or 9M79-1, the frequency was set to prepare for launch radiation target, the area of ​​damage up to 2 ha.

    9N123G - a special chemical cassette warhead containing 65 sub-elements equipped with 930 grams of substance R-33, each. Only 60,5 kg of poisonous substance;
    9N123G2-1 - a special chemical cassette warhead containing 65 subelements equipped with the Zoman substance (P-55). Only 50,5 kg of poisonous substance.

    It is good that the agonizing USSR managed to pick up nuclear weapons from these weakly smart ones, they would not be shy now and use it.
    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 17 August 2014 17: 02
      0
      Missiles 9M79, 9M79M and 9M79-1: number of stages - 1 (rocket body material - aluminum alloy). The warhead is inseparable.

      The main differences between the missile parts:
      9M79 - the first version of Tochka missiles
      9M79M - the possibility of using a warhead with a passive seeker, a new set of cables and a new DAVU 9B65M (9M79R "Tochka-R" missile) are used on the missile part. Since 1983, all missiles of the complex have been produced with a new set of cables.
      9M79-1 - a rocket with a modernized solid propellant (fuel mass is 80 kg more), re-arranged instrument and tail compartments and with an increased range ("Tochka-U").

      Engine:
      Rockets 9М79 / 9М79М "Tochka" - solid propellant rocket, single-mode, fuel charge - 9X151, fuel - DAP-15V - mixed solid fuel of the first-second generation (judging by the specific impulse). Composition: oxidizing agent - ammonium perchlorate, fuel - rubber with aluminum powder. The motor housing is made of high alloy steel. The engine nozzle is made using silicylated graphite, silicon and tungsten. The ignition system includes two 15X226 squibs and a 9X249 igniter. Development of the engine charge - NPO "Soyuz" (head - academician B.P. Zhukov).
      Engine thrust - 9788 kg
      Engine weight - 926 kg
      Fuel weight - 790 kg
      Engine operating time - 18,4-28 sec.
      Impulse specific - 2314 Ns / kg
      The pressure in the combustion chamber is 69 kg / cmXNUMX
      Specific thrust / specific impulse - 236 s (units)

      Source: http: //militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-191.html

      What is shown in the frames of this video is indeed the basic unit of the rocket, the RC "Tochka". This is evidenced by the marking that can be seen at the 41st second of this video.

      More details about the RC "Tochka": http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-191.html
  37. Rigla
    Rigla 17 August 2014 11: 26
    +2
    IMHO the junta was exhausted. The situation resembles that which developed at the end of November - the beginning of December 1941. under Moscow.
  38. 53-Sciborskiy
    53-Sciborskiy 17 August 2014 11: 27
    +1
    Quote: kot28.ru
    The Nazis are increasingly greyhound under the guise of countries geyropov and states

    Natsik completely fucked up, it’s good that these bastards do not have nuclear weapons.
    1. Black
      Black 17 August 2014 13: 02
      +4
      Quote: 53-Sciborskiy
      it’s good that these bastards don’t have nuclear weapons


      But there is a nuclear power plant .... that's all you can expect ...
  39. sever.56
    sever.56 17 August 2014 11: 31
    +1
    One gets the impression that the junta realized that Novorossia was completely lost for her, and they want to do the most damage before admitting it. If they had chemical weapons, they would use them. Fascists are fascists.
  40. Drunya
    Drunya 17 August 2014 11: 35
    +7
    There is no separate topic for reports (fresh), so I’ll add here

    Spanish militias (thanks to them) from the Vostok brigade: Stop fascism! TV "SV - DNR"
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 17 August 2014 17: 13
      +6
      Thank you so much for the video with the Spaniards !! Received unspeakable pleasure. Marxism is alive, alive. It is especially pleasing that in Spain they still could not erase the people's memory of the civil war and the role of the USSR in it. Lenin was right when speaking about the teachings of Marx, that it is omnipotent because it is true.
    2. Manul
      Manul 18 August 2014 01: 18
      +1
      Quote: Dryuya
      Spanish militias

      Awesome guys! Smart, well-read, educated, human !!! Do not compare with the monkey on the other hand, where only they can la-la-lapped and throw up ridges, as for their western "guests". So this is a war not only for the Russian world. This is already a world war against fascism and capitalism. For I agree with the guys. The face of capitalism is predatory and seeks not to develop the people, but to liken it to a resource, like sheep or turnips in the garden. And the potential of humanity requires that so that people do not fight for a piece of bread, but compete for a place in a spaceship on unexplored terrestrial planets. Sorry for the romanticism. But these guys from Spain moved me ..
  41. bubla5
    bubla5 17 August 2014 11: 35
    +1
    I think by September internal disassembly will begin and ps will rush back to Kiev, but with weapons
  42. Zomanus
    Zomanus 17 August 2014 11: 38
    +3
    From the photo of the rocket, one can say that "something went wrong." Or am I wrong? For me, if such a fool exploded, the whole body would go to pieces.
    1. Rock2
      Rock2 19 August 2014 13: 18
      0
      The way it is. This is probably one of those missiles that for some reason "themselves" exploded in the air (this was reported earlier).
  43. sever.56
    sever.56 17 August 2014 11: 39
    +10
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/321/omjy630.jpg
  44. Const
    Const 17 August 2014 11: 39
    +2
    Lost a hundred. Can our "Tochki" and "Iskander" scamper over the accumulations of dill, namely the bases and garrisons of long-range artillery and airfields. And let them agree. All the same, they do not know how to use other means.
    And also to prohibit, in response to sanctions, direct money transfers to the Outskirts - the country of Ivanov who do not remember kinship.
  45. ankh-andrej
    ankh-andrej 17 August 2014 11: 52
    +4
    Well, what now will the official representative of the State Department Psak declare?
  46. Gray 43
    Gray 43 17 August 2014 11: 53
    +2
    Probably the juntates regret that the Tochki missiles cannot be fired like the Grad, I wonder, is there possibly such a thing as a "humanitarian missile defense"? I think it would be very useful now. To the commentary with an interesting photo, the junta and the Pentagon draws all the information for the accusations of the militia from social networks and forums, save the peace of the "partners" (nuclear fungus in their home)
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  48. Russ69
    Russ69 17 August 2014 12: 02
    +2
    Wai, well done ....

    KIEV, 17 Aug - RIA News. Militia on Sunday night shot down a Ukrainian MiG-29 fighter in the Luhansk region, the catapulted pilot managed to escape, said the speaker of the special operations headquarters of Ukrainian security forces in eastern Ukraine, Leonid Matyukhin, in a comment to the Ukrainian Fifth Channel.
    According to Matyukhin, the MiG-29 was shot down in the Luhansk region. "The pilot ejected. After the search and rescue measures, the pilot was taken to a safe place," he said.


    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20140817/1020329263.html#ixzz3AdNWgZ6n
  49. MSA
    MSA 17 August 2014 12: 04
    0
    No brains left
  50. Eaglealex
    Eaglealex 17 August 2014 12: 06
    +2
    Really, from a cannon to sparrows ... Compare: National Socialists -> FAU in London, dill-bandero-fascists -> Point U in Donetsk. Both here and there non-military losses (intimidation action). Or is it just tension with other weapons? Then the old joke will help them: a submarine in the steppes of Ukraine, and a torpedo attack with slow-crawling torpedoes on the militia ...